@prefix edm: . @prefix dcterms: . @prefix dc: . @prefix skos: . edm:dataProvider "CONTENTdm"@en ; dcterms:isReferencedBy "http://resolve.library.ubc.ca/cgi-bin/catsearch?bid=1211252"@en ; dcterms:isPartOf "University Publications"@en ; dcterms:issued "2015-09-17"@en, "1977-11-03"@en ; edm:aggregatedCHO "https://open.library.ubc.ca/collections/Ubysseynews/items/1.0128592/source.json"@en ; dc:format "application/pdf"@en ; skos:note """ F services shy $180,000 By BILL TIELEMAN Campus food services are short $180,000 in revenues because of poor convention business this summer, a UBC board of governors report shows. But food services head Christine Samson said Wednesday the shortfall was not the reason for food price increases this year. "To date it hasn't affected the winter prices at, all. The prices didn't go up because of the shortfall," she said. Student board of governors member Basil Peters said Wednesday that students will be paying higher prices because of the poor summer business and suggested the Alma Mater Society take control of food services. "You are going to be paying more for the dirt-burgers in SUB," he said. "If students wanted to, we could probably take over food services. They don't want it." Samson refused to say if food prices will go up again this year to cover the summer loss in revenue. "I will have to look at the situation and go to my superiors before any decision is made," she said. The report, tabled, at Tuesday's board meeting, shows that food services budgeted for a summer revenue of $242,000 and actually made only $62,000. In the same period from April 1 to Sept. 30 last year, food services made $220,000. Residence food services had an actual loss of $38,285 for the April 1 to Sept. 30 period for 1977. Samson STARING SMUGLY down at nosy photographer is sculpted figure in Alma Mater Society SUB gallery. Sculpture, entitled Mon Oncle Regis, is work of artist Joe Fafard and is part of AMS Brock Hall collection on display until Nov. 10 in gallery off SUB main concourse. blamed poor summer business for the deficit. Summer business was down in one residence, she said, due to lower enrolment in summer student courses. The board report also shows that housing services revenue for the. period is down about $48,000 from last year. Housing director Mike Davis said Wednesday that convention business was down about 10 per cent compared to the previous year. "I think we were down in the neighborhood of 8,000 bed nights this summer, out of a total of about 76,000 to 78,000 bed nights," he said. Davis said the convention business will still be able to contribute revenue to offset winter student residence fees as budgeted for the year. "Two hundred and four thousand dollars is what conference business is supposed to contribute to winter residence and that's what it will," he said. Housing was able to cut expenses enough to offset the reduction in convention business, Davis said. But Peters said a comprehensive analysis of the financial situation of housing was difficult because the budget presented to the board was confusing. "I think Michael Davis went to a school for his MBA (master of business administration) which teaches creative accounting," he said. Davis said housing only plans to offer an extra 24 rooms for students to stay in Gage towers this summer, despite the financial success of a pilot project offering 104 rooms. About 150 students had applied for summer residence in Gage towers. See page 3: FOOD Sihota gets BoG censure By MIKE BOCKING The UBC board of governors has publicly censured student board member Moe Sihota for charging certain members of the commerce faculty with racism. Board chairman George Morfitt issued a statement Tuesday saying, "in view of the fact that Mr. Sihota has not produced, as requested, evidence to support his allegations, the board has passed a resolution disassociating itself from statements made by Mr. Sihota and regreting that such statements were made publicly by a member of the board in the absence of supporting evidence." Sihota made the charges of racism against East Indian students, at a student representative assembly meeting Oct. 19. Sihota said then that a group of East Indian commerce students had approached him during the summer and told him they were being discriminated against and were being failed as a result of it. Sihota said at that time that he suspected a commerce student or faculty member of stealing his board documents from an Alma Mater Society office because they containedevidenceof racism in the commerce faculty. Sihota said Wednesday he has given the name of a suspect to the university endowment lands RCMP and expects they will lay charges Friday. But Sgt. Al Hutchinson said they have no leads and no suspects at the present time. The board's statement also says, AMS hack Sandhu gets 'no respect/ quits Hit MTVl? DAmrtkio Chirl/mf Knn»#3 ~.£ ^*A..nuH.A_. 1 ■» r A H -t t Su-m i _ -a r 1 «.- - ™ #-. By MIKE BOCKING The Alma Mater Society external affairs officer resigned Wednesday after charging members of the student representative assembly with disrespect toward their executive officers. "After hearing some of the proceedings during this meeting concerning the B.C. Students' Federation and the lack of respect for the AMS executive I tender my resignation," Paul Sandhu said. Sandhu's resignation came after the SRA rejected his request that $60 be spent to buy 1,500 copies of the B.C. Student, a newsletter put out by the federation. Sandhu had already agreed with the BCSF to buy the newsletter which was circulated Wednesday before the SRA meeting. Sandhu interpreted the SRA's move to overturn his decision as a vote of non-confidence. After Sandhu left the meeting, the SRA voted unanimously not to accept his resignation. >? *- Student board of governors member Moe Sihota, a close friend of Sandhu, said the resignation would be detrimental to the AMS. "A more constructive solution would be to have a special council meeting to discuss the BCSF and the National Union of Students," he said. Sandhu has expressed concern about the lack of commitment of other SRA members toward the BCSF and NUS. "The assembly's decision not to buy the B.C. Student was not a vote of non-confidence in Paul, but was made more on the principle of not spending money before it was approved by the SRA," Sihota said. In other business the SRA decided not to decide on several things. Discussion of the AMS budget was tabled to the next SRA meeting because none of the members of the AMS budget committee, including finance director Shannon-Dale Hart, were present at the meeting. The proposed budget is for the fiscal year Apr a 1,1977 to March 31,1978. Seven months of the year covered by the budget have already passed and much of the money has already been spent, but the budget has yet to be passed by the SRA. The SRA also passed a motion asking arts dean Robert Will to state publicly his position on student representation. This motion follows an incident at an arts faculty meeting Oct. 21 when Will ejected from the meeting a Ubyssey reporter, five would-be representatives, arts student senator Sandhu and arts undergraduate society president Fran Watters. The original motion suggested Will speak in the SUB conversation pit with a public address system, but that recommendation was dropped. ' 'I don't think he would come to speak in the pit, so I think we should have the meeting in his office with a P.A. system," said student board of governors member Basil Peters. "there will be no further consideration of this matter by the board until factual supporting evidence is filed with the administration and the board of governors." Sihota said Wednesday the board sent him a letter Friday asking him to provide information substantiating his charges. He said he did not have enough time to gather the information. "In two days I don't see how I could have gotten together documentation which took me two years to collect." A task force was going to be set up by the administration to investigate the charges, said Sihota. "But I don't think there will be any investigation until I can provide documentation," he said. "Given the fact that my files were removed from my office I don't see how I can produce evidence. It increases the necessity to get them back. "It's a childish attempt by the board to embarrass me in that I've embarrassed the board on numerous occasions and so this is a vehicle to get back at me. "Most of the board had already made up their minds before the meeting to censure me and anything I could have said would not have changed their minds." Sihota said he will continue to look for the files and will "resurrect" as much of the information as possible. AMS external affairs officer Paul Sandhu said Oct. 19 that Sihota had evidence the commerce faculty had been using failure rates in a discriminatory way. Instead of passing all students who achieve a certain grade such as 50 per cent, some faculty members are grading students by a quota system, failing a certain percentage, Sandhu claimed. He said there was some information in Sihota's files which indicated that one particular group is being discriminated against with this method of grading. Sihota said Oct. 26 that the administration was failing to act on the racism charges although he had informed them about the case in August. Commerce dean Peter Lusztig has reacted angrily to the racism charges. On Oct. 20 Lusztig said Sihota's charges were unsubstantiated and damaging to the university's reputation. "It tars the university and the faculty. Up to now all Sihota has done has been to damage the university community," Lusztig said. Page 2 THE UBYSSEY Thursday, November 3, 1977 TODAY UBC NDP CLUB Keith Ralston speaks on Racism In Early B.C. Unions, noon, SUB 212. CHEERLEADERS People Interested In cheerleading should show up anytime from noon to 2 p.m., War Memorial gym or call Maureen (732] 8281) or Becky (224-9757. UBC LIBERALS General meeting and election of delegates, noon, SUB 212A. IVCF Homosexuality and the church, noon, Hebb theatre. CHINESE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP Bible study, noon, SUB 205. SOUTH AFRICA CRISIS Paul Isaak speaks on the political situation In Nambla, noon, SUB 207-209. CHARISMATIC CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP Dan Gardener on part 2 of Releasing the Holy Spirit, 7:30 p.m., Lutheran Campus Centre lounge. VARSITY OUTDOOR CLUB Outdoor equipment sale, noon, SUB 216. TYNEHEAD CLUB Meeting, noon, Bio Sciences 2361. SIMS Weekly meeting, noon, Buto 910. Hot flashes Homosexual!f y and the Church Dr. Donald Williams, member of the United Presbyterian Church's task force on homosexuality and the church will give a lecture on the subject at noon today in Hebb Theatre. For further information, call Wayman Crosby in SUB 235. Sponsored by the Inter-Varsity Christian FellowshipClub. *■ MOVING & STORAGE LTD- Reasonable Rates Big or Small Jobs ALSO 6ARAGES BASEMENTS & YARDS 732-9898 CLEAN-UP We're going back to school! Corky's will be closed Sunday, Nov. 6 and Monday, Nov. 7 AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL General meeting, noon, SUB 115. PRE-DENTAL SOCIETY Speech on Canadian Armed Forces and Dentistry, noon, IRC 1. ECKANKAR CLUB Introductory lecture on Eckankar as a way of life, noon, SUB 213. Mike McGlnnls speaks on Eckankar as the path to God realization, 7 p.m., SUB 213. PRE-VET CLUB Lecture, noon, MacMI 158. CHINESE STUDENTS' ASSOCIATION Lecture, on China's Influence on Chinese Canadians and Stereotyping, noon, SUB auditorium. Demonstration of Chinese painting, 2:30 to 3:30 p.m., SUB 126. Lecture on Meaningful Chinese Dates, 6:30 to 7:30 p.m., Bu. 106. LECLUB FRANCAIS La soiree vln et fromage, 7 p.m., International House. FRIDAY LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY Taped debate of libertarians versus socialists, noon, SUB 213. PSYCHOLOGY STUDENTS' ASSOCIATION Guest speaker on Cognitive maps In Rats and Humans, noon, Angus 321. SKYDIVING CLUB General meeting, noon, SUB 212. RECREATION UNDERGRADUATE SOCIETY Wine and cheese social, 4 p.m. to 6 p.m., RUS lounge In Armo basement. YOUNG SOCIALISTS Sara David on Against Rape: A Marxist View, 8 p.m., 1208 Granville. CHINESE VARSITY CLUB Disco dance, 8:30 p.m. to 1 a.m., Plaza International Hotel, 1999 Marine. MEN'S ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION Meeting of managers and team reps, noon, Big Block room, War Memorial gym. BAHA'I CLUB Informal discussion on the Baha'l faith, noon, SUB 113. CSA Chinese, din-sum presentation and sales, 12 noon, SUB ballroom. MONDAY PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVES General meeting, noon, SUB 212A. TUESDAY CHARISMATIC CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP Weekly student fellowship, noon, SUB 205. $> HONG KONG CHINESE FOOD 5732 UNIVERSITY BLVD. I OPEN FOR LUNCH I '$ Phone 224-6121 Eat in & Take out j$ Young Alumni Club Cecil Green Park Memberships open to 4th year undergraduates and graduate students Open Thursdays 8 p.m. -12 p.m. Friday Happy Hour 4 p.m. - 6 p.m. Friday evening 8 p.m. -1 a.m. Band every Friday Evening HILLEL HOUSE SPECIAL LUNCH HOUR DISCUSSION MIRIAM ZEV VICE CONSUL OF ISRAEL FRIDAY, 4th NOV. 12:30 Vegetarian Lunch Available FINALLY r^ SCIENCE SWEATERS! SUS Pullovers, Cardigans — All Sizes Science Blue, Two Black Arm Stripes Reasonably priced at $16.00 to $18.50 ORDER YOURS NOW at the OFFICE 216 AUD. ANNEX MUSSOC AUDITIONS for 'GOOD NEWS!' Sat., Nov. 5 at 1:00 - 5:00 p.m. Room 205 S.U.B. Candia Taverna $f SPECIALIZING IN GREEK CUISINE 1 4&U"9ll I Mm & PIZZA I FASt FREE DELIVERY - 4510 W. 10th Awe, dr=Ht"f=lB:.'r'r'rlp',T"='r:"jp s ! Q 228-9512 228-9513 CAREER POLICING The Vancouver Police Department offers challenging opportunities for persons interested in a community service profession. 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V6T 1W5 5— Coming Events FUN AND EXERCISE TOOI Dome to Chinese Cultural Centre's skating party at Britannia Rink, Saturday, Nov. 5, 8:00 p.m. Everybody welcome. GET READY for Friday Night. Warm up at the Arts Bear and Pizza Night. Buchanan Lounge, Friday, 4.00-8.00. 10 — For Sale — Commercial NOVEMBER SPECIALS. Bauer Black Panther skates $53.50; Down Ski jackets $31.95 up; Ladies Figure Skates $27.98; Dunlop Maxply squash racquet frames $22.50. Converse hi- cut runners $19.95; Cotton and nylon jogging suits $18.95. Visit Community Sports, 3816 West 4th Ave. 733-1612. 11 — For Sale — Private WOMEN'S HIKING BOOTS — Excellent condition, Raichle of Switzerland, size 6 (fits 7), $34. Call Ann, 733-7169 or 224-4452. 40 — Messages ALL THE PIZZA you can eat for $1.99. Bring a friend and pig out. Buchanan Lounge, Friday, 4.00-8.00. 50 — Rentals PIANO. Baby Grand and Piano Stool offered for rent. Phone 224-2551 after 4 p.m. 15 — Found 25 — Instruction SPANISH CLASSES. Beginners and advanced. 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BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY for singles and couples. Begin at home; set your own hours. Free training. Call 874- 5658 for appointment. CASH IN on fall and winter Xmas selling. Distribute nationally known products. Phone for appt., 6-9 p.m., 270-3995. 80 — Tutoring 85 — Typing 35 - Lost YEAR ROUNO expert essay thesis typing from legible work. Phone 738-6829, 10:00 a.m. to 9.00 p.m. EXPERIENCED essay typist. Accurate work, electric typewriter. Phone 286-9459. EXCELLENT TYPING. Reasonable rates. CaU 731-1807, 12 noon to 9 p.m. 99 — Miscellaneous HAVE RUMMAGE. Will donate. You pick up. 732-3660 after 6:00 p.m/ -day, November 3, 1977 THE UBYSSEY Page 3 Board to investigate bursaries By BILL TIELEMAN The UBC board of governors decided at a Tuesday meeting to investigate why female students are receiving smaller scholarships and bursary awards than male students. "The average payment is less in every case per female student and there is a noticeable difference in graduate fellowship and bursary awards," faculty board representative Gideon Rosenbluth said Tuesday. Erich Vogt, faculty and student affairs vice-president, told board members he would get more information on the situation for a further investigation. Student board member Basil Peters said Wednesday the board will wait for more information before proceeding. "We all agreed to look at the information before drawing any conclusions. The whole board is concerned about this," he said. A report presented to the board by Vogt showed that for the 1976-77 academic year, 663 male undergraduates got a total of $221,932 in scholarships while 334 female undergraduates got $99,855. Bursaries totalling $131,872 went to 371 male undergraduates while $126,060 went to 424 females. Graduate student fellowships totalling $721,805 went to males, while 92 females received $263,935. Bursaries worth a total of $27,365 went to 34 male graduates while $6,450 went to 17 females. In the board report Vogt says part of the discrepancy results from the fact that professional faculties at UBC have a high percentage of male students and receive more scholarships than other faculties which have proportionately higher female enrolment. Talks scheduled in Bimini strike By GEOF WHEELWRIGHT Management and staff at Bimini's neighborhood pub have agreed to begin negotiations to end its two-week-old strike, assistant manager Doug Berry said Wednesday. Berry said the management and the Service Office and Retail Workers Union of Canada (SORWUC) have laid down ground rules for when and where negotiations will take place. The union will continue picketing during the negotiations, he said, and Bimini's will stay open. He said the management will draw upits own contract to present to the union, in addition to discussing the contract proposals Union wins longer break for workers REGINA (CUP) — As of this month, Bank of Nova Scotia employees all across Canada will be getting three weeks holidays after one year of employment. This increase in holidays may seem insignificant to many workers who are given three-week holiday periods in their provincial labor, codes. But for bank workers this is a major improvement. Because they fall under the federal labor code, bank employees are legally entitled to only two weeks holidays after one year. According to representatives of the Service, Office and Retail Workers Union of Canada (SORWUC), this holiday increase is clearly a result of organizing efforts. It comes within a month of SORWUC s application for certification of the Bank of Nova Scotia main branch employees in Regina. According to the representatives, the increase illustrates management's attempt to buy off the union drive. They say it is not a new tactic for an employer to give workers long-awaited increases or to resolve a few longstanding grievances when the workers begin to talk about unionization. Without a binding contract, there is no assurance that such an increase will not be withdrawn. SORWUC stresses that the benefits of the union do not lie in an isolated increase here and there but in the recognized right of employees to negotiate all aspects of working conditions, including the right to file grievances over issues that affect workers individually. ... SORWUC has already presented. "The two (contracts) will be sitting there; it's just a matter of getting one signed." He said that before the strike began the union was asking for a top wage of $5 an hour for waitresses. The management was close to meeting this offer when the strike vote was taken, Berry said, but as soon as the strike began the union changed its demands to $5.60 an hour with a raise to $6.10 an hour after four months. Waitresses now make $3.25 an hour after the first two weeks with quarterly raises of 25 cents an hour. Berry said the management cannot meet these demands. He said the union should be more flexible in order to better represent Bimini's striking employees. But union spokeswomen have said the management ignores certain issues. These issues include lack of employee participation in work scheduling, failure of management to recognize employees' seniority and lack of benefits such as sick leave and a medical-dental plan. And during the early days of the strike, SORWUC members told The Ubyssey they wanted $4.50 an hour wages compared to the management's offer of $3.75 an hour. The union was certified last January and has been negotiating for a contract since that time. But negotiations started to break down during the summer when Uram became unavailable. He has cited other interests as his reason for not being able to negotiate. "Nobody's making any money," Berry said. He claimed only five of the 18 employees at the pub are picketing and even they want the strike to end. "The (striking) waitresses have been trying to get the union to roll back their demands," he said. He claimed the staff could all go back to work and the strike could still go on for as long as three months with union executives manning the pickets. If the strike continues for another two or three weeks, Bimini's will go out of business, Berry said. He said the pub is currently bringing in 10 to 15 per cent of its usual revenue. Berry said owner Peter Uram is not asking for or receiving any support from the pub owners' association. But, he added, the association has offered to send customers over and help out with supplies. Berry said Bimini's is well- stocked with supplies and hasn't accepted any other support. "For example," says the report, "in engineering programs in the faculty of applied science, 127 scholarships were available in 1976-77 for distribution among a total enrolment of 1,058, only 45 of whom were women. "In the faculty of arts, by contrast, only 88 scholarships were available to a total registration of 4,681 students, 2,644 of whom were women." The report says UBC is attempting to increase the number of scholarships awarded in nonprofessional faculties using funds donated to the university that do not specify an award to a particular faculty. In other board business, members decided to set up a committee to look into the possibility of charging higher fees for postgraduate training programs. A UBC senate report to the board shows significant fees are being paid by students in residency programs in Alberta and Quebec and that UBC should consider, "that the imposition of reasonable university fees is appropriate." The report states that fees for residency programs are currently $20 and that higher fees would emphasize to resident students "the role of the university in their continuing education." Board member Sihota said Wednesday the students in the program were mostly full-time doctors coming back to UBC for refresher courses and the board believes they can afford to pay higher fees. The report states that senate favors a system similar to those in operation in Alberta and Quebec, where the student pays significant fees which are later refunded by the government. The senate committee that prepared the report considered the possibility of increased cooperation between the faculty of medicine and other faculties in various postgraduate residency programs, but found the physical separation of teaching hospitals from UBC makes co-operation generally impractical. —matt king photo PUZZLED STUDENT reads Russian translation of Dead Sea scrolls for 1:30 p.m. class — Pedantry 205. Next assignment is to translate Milton's Paradise Lost into Swahili and write 5,000 word essay on Sin and Redemption in Alice in Wonderland. Food services needs dough From page 1 Student board members Peters and Moe Sihota both said Wednesday housing should open up many more rooms for summer student residence to offset the sagging convention business. "The administration should reorder its priorities. There's no excuse for not having students in there," Peters said. "The advantage of having students is that they're here for the whole summer while conventioneers are erratic." Peters said the married students living in Gage lowrise are forced, out of residence every summer when they should be allowed to stay for the entire year. Sihota said housing could easily find student occupants for one tower of Gage (400 people) if it did a better job of advertising than it did last year. "It's obvious students are interested in staying in Gage in the summer, particularly married students," he said. "If the administration did extensive advertising they could easily fill one tower." But Davis said housing is proceeding cautiously because he does not believe many students would apply for summer residence or stay the full four months. "I'm just not confident that we could get 200 students in residence this summer," he said. Davis said the summer program for students "did not work out that well" because some students were unhappy about fewer residence services in the summer, although they were told about this in advance. Housing is unable to make many changes in the convention business because of the advance booking obligations, he said. "The conference business is pretty well locked in four years in advance," he said. "I don't have a lot of flexibility." "I'm trying to make changes for the 1981 season." Iheconvention business has become less profitable at UB C because of high labor costs, Davis said. "Our costs are out of line at UBC compared to other universities in Canada. Our labor costs are higher," he said. But Peters said the convention business is suffering all across Canada and UBC should cut back conventions in favor of more summer student residents. "Conventions have gone out of style, especially in Canada," Peters said. ' 'Now the writing is on the wall, it (summer student residence) is a great idea. "I think what the housing administration should do is advertise now and try to get a really accurate prediction of how many students they could get for the summer. The married quarters should be turned over for summer student use right away." In other board business, the administration revealed UBC had windfall profits again this year at the bookstore, with the report showing a $64,986 surplus, despite the fact that the bookstore is budgeted to break even. Bookstore profits are channelled into a special building fund which the administration will use to construct a new bookstore in the future. mm Page 4 THE U BYSSEY Thursday, November 3# Freedom: mange de la merde "OTTAWA (AP) - Hundreds of political dissidents have been arrested here in the second major wave of arrests since a state of emergency was imposed two years ago. "At least 300 leading members of the Progressive Conservative and New Democratic parties were swept up in the largest crackdown on dissent since the wave of arrests which followed Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau's imposition of martial law in early 1980. "As part of emergency regulations, all newspapers and news dispatches from Canada have been heavily censored. As in the declaration imposing martial law, these arrests are expected to be announced as in the interests of 'national security.' ''Those arrested apparently include former PC leader Joe Clark and former prime min ister John Diefenbaker. Reports on who else was arrested are still unclear..." Sound far fetched? It won't if the Trudeau government continues to confuse 'national' security with the security of the Liberal party. During the past week's revelations of the RCMP's dirty work, government ministers protested their innocence. But the ministers haven't condemned the RCMP actions and it is being forgotten that the Liberal government's attitude to national security has not discouraged the mounties. Early in his reign, Pierre the Lucky beefed up security forces, who were then ready when he invoked the War Measures Act during the October crisis of 1970. The hundreds of arrests and suspension of civil liberties did nothing to end the two political kidnappings and created an atmosphere of mistrust in Quebec against the federal government which has helped Trudeau's arch-rival, Rene Levesque. Trudeau considered the October crisis a licence to give the gumshoes more power. A top-level committee was set up to direct national security operations. As we've found out recently, the RCMP was busy raiding a leftist newspaper, and the offices of the Parti Quebecois (which is not exactly a fringe party), stealing explosives and burning barns. Trudeau said he could understand the RCMP's logic behind the PQ raid and suggested the cops need more power. Unless he is sternly rebuked, if not tossed out of office, we might as well write the obituary for democracy in Canada. We can only hope that this week's uproar in the house of commons over the above activities and fresh allegations of illegal wiretaps leads to the demise of the Trudeau government. In nearly ten years, Pierre the Arrogant has led this country into an economic abyss, giving more power to large corporations. When the clamor grew for some action, Trudeau imposed wage controls, a policy he had condemned during a federal election the previous year, and a policy which has done nothing to improve Canada's economy. Fortunately for the Liberals, the dreaded Parti Quebecois was elected, creating an issue which made the government popular again, in spite of the fact that it is in a large part responsible for the crisis of Confederation. We are fortunate Trudeau spends so much time worrying about the PQ government and Quebec. Can you imagine what it would be like if he cared about the west? But not even their peculiar popularity has calmed the Trudeau Liberals. What we are seeing now is a thoroughly Nixonian set of measures designed to preserve 'national' security. Whjle other parties offer little better in the way of economic and social policies, they lack, we hope, the overbearing contempt for the public which the current government possesses in huge quantities. At best, the current revelations of RCMP wrongdoing show gross stupidity on the part of those who direct the RCMP. Trudeau, through his handling of the situation, shows that it is not stupidity. It is gross disrespect for the principle of democracy. Letters Totem is not out to get Vanier and Gage residents It is regrettable that Place Vanier and Gage Residences have the misfortune of being led by presidents who are obviously illiterate. The decision to no longer accept Vanier and Gage residence cards was not a move to offend the councils of Place Vanier and Gage; nor was it a move against their residents. As was stated clearly in my letter to the two presidents: the RCMP felt that a large part of the trouble Totem Park has been known to experience at a few of its functions is caused by students not THE UBYSSEY NOVEMBER 3, 1977 Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS or the university administration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977. Editor: Chris Gainor It was official secrets day at The Ubyssey and all the staffers sneaked around being secretive. Marcus Burroughs Gee and Geoffrey Charles St. George Wheelwright tried unsuccessfully to prevent their dignified, and thus highly unsuitable, middle names from becoming public knowledge. Henry William Tieleman regretted letting his entire name be known, but soon forgot his discomfiture as he tried to set a desk on fire. Christopher John Gainor beamed fondly on this effort, defending the wily BoG In Investogator's right to break laws. Kathryn Linda Ford sighed grumpily as she dropped the list of all students at the Institution, thereby revealing the BoG's hate list. Michael Arthur Bocking and Janet "Snooker" Nicol tried to keep It a secret but didn't fool anyone. Verne McDonald ate strange substances to see whether they would make good truth drugs, but Llyanne Hurd and Heather Conn refused to be one of the testeeswhen they saw what It did to him. Matthew Leonard King closeted himself In the dark with secret microfilm. Stephen John Howard yearned to uncover the secrets of a billiard ball. from Totem Park. Consequently, they have agreed to reinstate our privilege if we admit only Totem Park residence association members and one guest to these functions. We unfortunately had to agree.. . The TPRA had no choice but to institute this policy and regrets any inconvenience it will cause to you. No mention is made of any "animal-like behavior" of Gage or "Vanier residents in the letter; in fact, many of our problems with the liquor functions resulted from the actions of people from off- campus, who come to Totem Park because of the attraction its functions hold. Despite the reputation that Totem Park seems to be getting in the last few months, we are not out to "get" Vanier or Gage, or to destroy their social functions or residence life. During the Gage elections, we provided free of charge the use of our public address equipment for any day it was not reserved for Totem organizations. Moreover, Gage council members have been seeking advice from the TPRA council about starting their own beer nights; this advice has been freely given. As for Place Vanier, we have allowed advertising for Vanier functions in Totem Park, and have in fact promoted Vanier functions on our own initiative by public announcements. It is regrettable that Vanier has not reciprocated, and harbors illwill towards us. The remarks about security at our functions, particularly Bavarian Blitz, seem to be based on misinformation. There is no reason to slight the security arrangements; in doing so, the reputation of the high quality of the security provided by the Engineering Undergraduate Society suffers. In fact, security arrangements at our functions are, on the whole, quite good. In reference to Bavarian Blitz, the bar was shut down on our own initiative when it was felt that the situation was getting out of hand. It is regrettable that there has not been better communication between our councils prior to the publication of the letter by Stephen Schober and Sharon Taylor in the last edition of The Ubyssey. However, we wish to take this opportunity to thank both Place Vanier and Gage for deciding to continue to accept our residence cards, and once again to express our regret that we cannot do the same. Cameron MacKay president, Totem Park residence association Infuriating It never fails to amaze me at the frequency your newspaper can thoroughly infuriate me. The description of the picture showing the chariot teams in Friday's paper disgusted me. The individuals who go out for the chariot race face the barrage of offensive material to provide half- time entertainment and attract crowds so funds can be generated for Muscular Dystrophy. To call these people "human trash" for performing this noble task is an unnecessary and undeserved insult. Andrew W. F. Metten civil engineering 4 Thursday, November 3, 1977 THE UBYSSEY Page 5 Letters Anti-discrimination laws empty victory at best Lome Rogers (Oct. 28) missed the point of my article. His letter is one of contradictions and misunderstandings. In the first place, it is the state and its henchmen which interfere with people's "right of choice in sexual relations," not some mythical, indeterminate "social system." And that constitutes oppression — by any standards. Lome should also recognize that there is the greatest difference between the phrases "ought not to discriminate" and "ought not have the freedom to discriminate." The former is an appeal to change one's attitudes; the latter is a blueprint for 1984. Where does Lome get the idea that he or anyone else should determine the "role of newspapers and companies in society?" I agree that gay people are discriminated against (as Lome defines it) in the job market and in social position. But the question is, what is the best way to get the War money The recent demonstration over the Bank of Montreal's loans to South Africa is a good step in the right direction. Why should the millionaires who control Canada's big banks (and our money) use our savings to finance the oppressive South African government that even the Canadian government does not support? For too long the public has allowed the multinational banks to finance foreign wars, revolutions and dictatorships with our money and without our approval, without even a second glance by our governments. Why do we let banks such as the Bank of Montreal support countries like South Africa who suppress the freedom and liberty of their citizens? Canadians, and all free people, should control their banks and allow bans only to countries whose citizens enjoy basic democratic rights. Let the dictators float their loans in their own countries, if it's possible. Mark Stevens "discriminators" to change their attitude? Using the coercion of anti-discrimination laws is at worst immoral and at best foolish. Firstly, you don't make a person more moral by forcibly removing any opportunities for him to act immorally. Secondly, the use of coercion will only make anti-gay people more bitter toward gays and increase the amount of public opposition to them. Moreover, they will tend to band together and make determined efforts to circumvent the regulations. We have already seen this. Thirdly, anti-discrimination laws are virtually impossible to enforce. Landlords and employers can use other criteria to exclude gays. These laws are at best an empty victory. Attempts at legislating morality have always failed and I can't see how Kathleen Ruff or anyone else is going to do any better. Politically, gays should act in self-defence. They should sue cops and government for harassment, false arrest, and violation of Disappointed The UBC women's field hockey team is really disappointed with the lack of coverage in The Ubyssey about their recent win of the western Canadian championships. It seems rather unusual that we should get good coverage in the local and provincial papers, but not even get a mention in the school paper. Tuesday's issue has stories on the men's football team (as usual), the men's hockey team and Ihe men's rugby team. None of these teams won the Canada west title. Up until now our field hockey team has been the most successful team and we feel we deserve a little credit. Ihe women's field hockey team left Wednesday for Montreal to participate in the Canadian university finals. The western team usually does very well in this tournament. Susan Carroll property rights, and demand to be left alone. But they should not try to force people to accept the "correct" moral position. The fact that they've experienced that same kind of coercion in the past is no reason to lower themselves to the level of (heir opponents by using the same methods. By the way, I too think that institutionalized "discrimination" is obscene (what is the biggest institution in our society?) I'm not for "blatant discrimination" nor are any Libertarians. The 1976 Libertarian Party CSA betrayed members I am a Chinese student and I feel that the Chinese students association has betrayed its members. This was done by associating the politically unconscious Chinese with the neo-Nazi Taiwan government. The showing of the politically biased movie, the 800 heroes, as a feature of the CSA proves the CSA relates to, and is maybe directed by the notorious Kuomintang. It is a fact that the CSA does not openly cry out that they are a puppet of the Kuomintang nor tell their members that joining the CSA is joining the Kuomintang. This further illustrates the base, sly and totally selfish acts the makers of this movie would do to gain fame for their government. It may be a shock to most of you that the size of the audience at this movie could be used as a propaganda weapon. The Kuomintang would tell thepeople of Taiwan (Formosa) that there are huge numbers of Kuomintang supporters watching the movie instead of large numbers of curious university students watching it. Tlie CSA should stop showing politically biased movies (Communist or neo-Nazi Kuomintang) or else it should change its name and stop representing the Chinese students of UBC. I am sure most of the Chinese students here do not want to be known as the foreign leagues of the Kuomintang brownshirts. William Lovesong science 1 Gay crashers help out At the gay people's dance on Friday night at the graduate student centre garden room, five straight students unsuccessfully attempted to disrupt the evening's festivities. Some momentary diversion was created by two stink bombs which they dropped prior to their hasty departure. They were hotly pursued by several of the people present back to Place Vanier residence. Their juvenile and immature behavior disrupted other events occurring in the grad centre and caused many to evacuate the dentistry faculty dance in the ballroom. After the initial excitement, dancing resumed and an enjoyable evening was had by all. In paying the cover charge for the dance, the anti-gay students will be glad to know that they gave their financial support to the cause of gay rights, which the profits from the dance were given to. Any further contributions will be most appreciated and may be forwarded to box nine, in SUB, or brought in person to SUB 237A. Gay people of UBC candidate for vice-president of the U.S. was an openly-admitted gay white male. His brilliance and talents made him an excellent choice for the running. Clearly, his candidacy was politically disadvantageous to the party, but it showed that members would not sacrifice principle for a better political image. Moreover, the Gay Libertarian Alliance, a four-year-old organization based in the U.S., is actively campaigning against antidiscrimination laws. Why? Because they, like all Libertarians, recognize that the state only creates problems and does not solve them. The GLA is trying to change people's attitudes to be sure, but like the rest of us, its members abhor the use of state power to achieve this end. Maybe there is one group of persons which I "blatantly discriminate" against. I have a great deal of animosity for those who claim to have a monopoly on the truth and wish to force other people to accept their views. This is why I oppose both sides in the gay rights issue. Cam Osborne arts 4 Osborne supports misconceptions Re Cam Osborne's article: Gay rights impaired by political fighting (Oct. 25). This article inadvertently supports important misconceptions that I feel must be pointed out. First, on the concept of freedom of the press. The author says that gays have no right to publish an ad in an "hetero" newspaper as the Gay Tide wouldn't accept an "hetero" ad. He forgets that a newspaper like the Sun informs the whole public of B.C. and not a particular group. Someone expects to find religious and porno ads in a large circulation paper but nobody expects to find a religious ad in a sex paper or vice versa. Responsibility of a newspaper grows with its importance: a national or large regional paper should be neither pro straight nor pro gay. Its obligation is to respect the rights of any minority, even in so futile way as in advertising. Secondly, contrary to what he says, being gay is political, because it supports certain acts which are opposed to our society. The aim of gay movements (and feminist organizations as well) should be to break the traditional sexual roles, and restructure the capitalist society in changing its philosophy. An example: find a new concept of family, more human than what it is right now, a mere way of producing children for more consumption of goods. Tolerance, as the author seems to suggest, is not enough. When society will be hetero-social, instead of homo-social (which it is), then the word gay and the lifestyle attached to it win be replaced not by another label or a fashion, but by open relationships where the capacity of conscience, loving and responsibility will be of vital importance. Sex between any gender should not be a limitation, but a way to better communications. In opposition to popular opinion, the sexual revolution is not yet started, and it is unlikely to begin with us. Victor Tremblay arts Check the facts next time Congratulations once more on your newspaper's methods of sen- sationalistic journalism. Do you really need to invent these scandals to thrill your readers? First of all concerning the article GSA sells out to AMS (Oct. 28). As a member of the constituency concerned, I was present at the graduate representative assembly on the previous Tuesday. The decision to remain within the Alma Mater Society structure (however academic it may have been) was not made by Jane Ingman Baker or any other individual but by this group of approximately 20 graduate students. In fact, Ingman Baker was speaking favor of leaving the AMS and had written an article on this subject in the last graduate student newsletter. Secondly, Chemistry TAs miss pay raise (Nov. 1). The article concerned a non-event that somebody with a great imagination turned into a so-called behind-the-scenes power struggle instead of the clerical error or hold-up that it no doubt is. I find all this conjecture damaging to the reputations of both the graduate students association and the chemistry department. How about checking the facts next time! P. T. Wassell chemistry graduate student Affirmative action program helps women Within the last week or so, two letters have appeared in The Ubyssey to which I would like to respond. The first is that written by Peter Hlookoff of grad studies headlined Elect me dean of women; the second, a reply to this, was captioned with the phrase Reverse discrimination. Embedded within the sneers, implied slurs and nebulous complaints of Peter Hlookoff's letter is thecharge that since the position of dean of women will (we presume and hope) be filled by a woman, a phenomenon commonly known as "reverse discrimination" is happening or could happen on this campus. I would like to examine this notion in some detail. "Reverse discrimination" is an emotion-laden phrase with little real meaning or intellectual content. It is a cry that is raised when members of a group or class accustomed to discriminating against others find themselves in a position of some temporary disadvantage. In most cases, this disadvantage is due to plans developed to effect long-overdue changes in the inequities of an existing social structure, such as the various "affirmative action" hiring programs followed by a number of Canadian universities (but not, to my knowledge, by UBC). The only plausible argument Down with all segregation Reading Julie Petersen's serious reply to my half-serious application for the dean of women's job gives me cause to reconsider, adjust and expand upon certain of my statements. Her main objection was to my comment that a man can administer a group of females better than a woman (and vice versa). She is completely right. I do not really believe this and made the comment mainly with a view to arousing controversy. What I really believe is that men and women can make equally good administrators, regardless of the sexual composition of the group being administered. But I fail to understand why there is any advantage in having a dean of women, considering that men do not have one (or do we?). At any rate, if there was (or is) such a creature, I doubt seriously whether I would ever consider paying him a visit. As a matter of fact, if I had any special problem related to being a man, I would probably feel more comfortable talking it over with a woman. Because, let's face it, at least 90 per cent of men's problems concern ' relations with women. So why would I want to talk it over with some man who is probably at least as screwed up as I am? I say: down with segregation of all forms! It only creates suspicion and intricate time-wasting conspiracies which could be completely dispelled by five minutes of conversation with those being conspired against. Peter Hlookoff grad studies against an affirmative action program is that preferential hiring is, in principle, wrong. But upon more careful consideration, even this claim can be shown to be simplistic in this case. For example, we have 281 female faculty members as opposed to 1,468 male faculty members — obviously, a ridiculous ratio which represents, among other things, years upon years of discriminatory hiring practices. How can such a situation be remedied? The fastest way to create an environment of social justice here would be to fire everyone and rehire women and men in equal proportions. Unfortunately, for legal and practical reasons, this is impossible. The only remaining course of action which will bring relief within the average person's lifetime is an affirmative action program. In hiring, or in any other selective process, it is clear that a choice in favor of one individual means a choice against another. The number of choices made in the past and being made in the present against women — women as individuals comprising a class — is immense. It is much greater than the number of choices being made in the present or likely to be made in the future against men. Men therefore, cannot complain — as a class, they have a debt of social justice to repay, and women, af to* all these years, are entitled to a fair settlement of a delinquent account. Sheila Lidwill arts 3 Page 6 THE UBYSSEY Thursday, November 3, 1977 Land claims divide natives The .following article* on Indian land claims in the north were written for Canadian University Press. The articles came out of a land claims symposium held last weekend at the University of Manitoba in Winnipeg. The symposium was attended by representatives from Indian groups, the Berger commission and the Indian Rights Commission. The Dene proposal for the Northwest Territories has been called separatist, and likened to the Quebec situation. It has also been called racist, and compared with South Africa's apartheid policies. The native people in the north are split. The Metis Association and the committee for the original people's entitlement, representing the Inuit of the western Arctic, don't support the proposal. The Indian Brotherhood of the Northwest Territories does. At a land claims symposium held herelast weekend, Steve Kakfwi, a representative of the NWT Indian Brotherhood, discussed the claim of the Dene nation and the reasons for the claim. "Dene means people. That's all it means," Kakfwi told the audience. Essentially the "Dene Nation" includes all people of native descent in the western part of the Northwest Territories. While the Dene are asking for compensation for past use of their land, the most controversial part of the proposal comes in the type of self-government they are demanding. Hie Dene don't wiant to extinguish their aboriginal rights in return for land, as was done in the south. ' 'We don't want to be just seen as property owners. We want to control the political institutions which govern the use of the land," said Kakfwi. As Michael Jackson, an advisor to the Berger commission, pointed out later in the symposium, the native people of the north can remember a time when they were in the clear majority, "a time when white people didn't set the tone." This explains to a large degree the difference in approach to land Alumni Chronicle UBC Through ^ The Lens A Student Photography Competition $300 in prizes to be awarded UBC's student photographers, full and part-time, are invited to submit black & white photographic portraits of campus life, for adjudication by a panel of professional photographers and critics. Prizes will be apportioned at the judges' discretion. A selection of the juried works will be exhibited January 4-11, 1978 in the SUB Art Gallery. Entries must be submitted to the UBC Alumni Association, Cecil Green Park, 6251 Cecil Green Park Road, Vancouver V6T 1X8, by 5 p.m., Friday, December 16, 1977. For full contest details pick up a "UBC Through the Lens" flyer at Speakeasy, SUB or call the alumni office, 228-3313. ■ claims by northern and southern natives. In the north, self-determination, self-government, and control over their own lives are seen not as merely empty rhetoric. They are seen as political realities, because people had these rights in recent memory. In the south, native people must accommodate themselves to working within structures which have been in place for 100 years, Jackson said. At present, native people make up the majority of the 15-member NWT Territorial Council, but do not see the council as a means through which their aspirations can be reached. The council itself has very little power. It is an advisory body to the commissioner of the Northwest Territories, who in turn reports to the federal minister of Indian and northern affairs. According to Kakfwi, the council works on the assumption that "we're all northerners," sharing the same values and interests, and, therefore, one territorial government representing everyone is appropriate. "We are not the same. We do not share the same interests. We are not there for the same reasons," Kakfwi said. In 1975, for example, the council came out in support of a Mackenzie Valley pipeline before settlement of land claims, despite strong native opposition. The council's stand prompted resignations from two of its members who were also leaders of the Indian Brotherhood of the NWT. Another problem with the territorial model is that it is rooted in British, not native, tradition. "The Territorial Council .. . doesn't meet our needs at all. We are more geared to working on a consensus model," Kakfwi said. "Nobody has the right to tell us "Those are your choices. Those are the structures you can use.' " In areas of common interest, such as education, the three native population sizes are about the same, but the whites are concentrated in the larger settlements. Hie Dene would have control over the valley, but the white settlements such as Inuvik and Norman Wells would be excluded. Minority groups in each area would have the same rights as the majority, Kakfwi said, but the institutions would be under the control of the majority group in each enclave. Ihe problem of maintaining a majority of natives in the Dene group could be overcome by controlling the pace of development in each area Kakfwi said. If a large mineral deposit is discovered in a Dene area, the government could put tight controls on the manner in which it is extracted, to maximize benefits for the local population, and prevent an influx of whites. "If there is nothing for them to exploit, why should they come up?" Kakfwi asked. The question of the* racial ex- clusiveness of the areas proposed by the Dene troubles some observers of the north, who have likened the proposal to South African apartheid. Stories by Canadian University Press governments might choose to present a united front but this would be the exception rather than the rule, said Kakfwi. Within each racial group's territory, that group would be in the majority. The Inuit government would be in the eastern Arctic, and east of the Mackenzie Valley. In the valley, the white and Henneken Auto MERCEDES-VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT-VOLVO Service—Repairs—Used Cars 8914 Oak St. (Oak & Marine) 263-8121 Another question concerns the "self-imposed exile" of the Dene from the larger northern communities, where native populations make up substantial minorities. Some observers wonder about the implications of giving native people control only over hinterland areas. COPE, the organization representing Inuit in the western Arctic, has also proposed the creation of a separate territory in the Mackenzie Delta-Beaufort Sea area. COPE suggests the racial ex- clusiveness problem can be avoided by having a residency requirement of several years before being allowed to vote in the territory's elections. Such a requirement would disenfranchise much of the white population, which is largely composed of transient federal civil servants. CALCULATOR REPfifcRS ALL MAKES AND MODELS FREE ESTIMATES CfiL~D~TRDniCSi 438-6496 4857 Kingsway, Burnaby METAMORPHOSIS By Franz Kafka Adapted by Steven Berkoff An M.F.A. Thesis Production Directed by Barbara McColl NOVEMBER 9-12 8:00 p.m. Tickets: $3.00 Students: $2.00 Tickets: Room, 207 Frederic Wood Theatre UBC DOROTHY SOMERSET STUDIO Thursday, November 3, 1977 THE UBYSSEY Page 7 Courts cannot satisfy Indians There is little chance of native land claims being settled through the courts, a specialist said recently at a symposium on land claims. Ken Norman, a special counsel to the Indian Rights Commission said at the University of Manitoba last weekend that he had higher hopes for the recently established Indian Rights Commission. This commission, set up earlier this year at the urging of the National Indian Brotherhood, will use a joint committee process to spell out the validity of land claims. Norman said he hopes the committee will agree there was some basis of trust when land was surrendered by native people to the government. Norman outlined three land claims in the prairies that are in theprocessof being heard in court. He said he thought they were good claims under any doctrine of fairness and obligation, but added that native people would probably lose all three cases. The first case he spoke of is the Stony Plain claim near Edmonton. A chief and six band councillors "Trouble with you people is you never knew how to use the land.' Northern native issues need different solutions are suing on behalf of the tribe, saying that 10 square miles of land has been held in trust by the government since it was surrendered in 1908. They are claiming the land was lost through inducement and that they never voluntarily gave it up. They are charging that the agent who arranged the surrender wrongfully and falsely arranged for die legal documents to be signed. The natives are asking for $50 million and cancellation of the surrender. The justice department has filed a statement of defence objecting to the claim on a number of grounds. Ihe first deals with the statute of limitation. The justice department is arguing that after 70 years it is too late for the natives to claim the land. The department claims the band leaders represent themselves and no one else. It is also their contention that there is no trust relationship between the federal government and the native people over this land. . They say that the surrender was for the benefit of the band and that there was no fraud or inducement involved in getting the natives to surrender the land. The justice department has an alternative defence which says that the natives acquiesced to the surrender. There is also the problem of people now living on the land, which is now part of suburban Edmonton. There is a similar claim on the Pegan reserve in Alberta involving a claim for $25 million. The details of the claim are almost identical to the Stony claim and Norman said it was obvious that the lawyers had xeroxed the Stony claim since many of the passages are identical. The justice department has not yet filed a defence on this claim. The third claim involved three reserves in southeast Saskatchewan where the inhabitants of two reserves were induced to give up their land and move to a third reserve. In explaining why he thought the land claims cases would lose in court, Norman cited a recent case in New Brunswick. A part of the Red Bank Indian reserve had been surrendered over 100 years ago but it had never been sold. The claim was that Gilbert Smith was farming land that he did not own. Norman said that the facts were all quite clear; the land was the land referred to in the surrender and it was clear that someone had, at some point, taken the land without paying for it. Smith, however, had a legitimate bill of sale from someone who in turn had bought the land. "Thefactsareclear but the band loses," said Norman. Norman said that in the decision, the judge quoted an 1825 verdict which said, "long dormant claims have often more of cruelty than of justice in them." Norman said he thought it unlikely that the courts would like to get involved in determining the validity of claims that date back for long periods of time unless a trust relationship can be clearly established. Native problems in the north are different than those in the south and demand different solutions, according to a special counsel for the Berger pipeline inquiry. Michael Jackson said Saturday native land claims must be different in the north than in the south. While southern natives can work within white society without assimilation, he said, northern natives cannot and do not want to accept those structures. What they want instead is to "shape the future of the north in terms of their own perception of what the north should become." They want a "reordering of the relationship between northern natives and the rest of Canada," a process where they are given "political and economic rights to ensure they remain a separate people." While southern natives have more than 100 years of experience with European institutions and government, Jackson said, northern natives have only experienced these for about 20 years. They have not had the experience with these institutions BLACK & LEE TUX SHOP NOW AT 1110 SEYMOUR ST. 688-2481 Subfilms Pseudonominously presents and thus prefer to stay with their own political systems, which do not fit in with the southern systems. For instance, he said, native representatives on the Northwest Territories Territorial Council are not very effective because they do not follow the European custom of having elected representatives responsible for making important decisions that affect the community. The native representatives think they do not have the right to make these decisions, he said, so the bureaucrats from northern affairs make them instead. This leaves 6,000 civil servants governing 15,000 native people, Jackson said, and that is the way it is going to remain unless there is a "radical shift of political power and of the structure of government" But since northern natives have an "inalienable right to govern themselves," he said, a right that cannot be given or taken away by governments, this change must occur. cross mi \\m GET OUTFITTED AT Q 'rdon — Look at the world of fakes, forgers and frauds — ^r id for Irake SUB Aud. Thurs. & Sun. 7:00 Fri. and Sat. 7:00 and 9:30 75c , No free tickets. | Security will be extra tight! Page 8 THE UBYSSEY Thursday, November 3, 1977 Boob-tube spawns aggression By JAN NICOL If you have been an avid television viewer since you were knee high to a grasshopper, then you could be overly aggressive and lacking in creativity. These are a few of the findings of a four-year study on the impact of television in society released this summer by a group of UBC psychology professors. And in an interview with The Ubyssey Tannis Williams, leader of the group, expressed concern for children who watch television. "I personally feel aggression is not a positive trait," Williams said. "Therefore if I had kids I would restrict their viewing. "I would have them spend more time in other activities and given the current content of TV, I would Peter Suedfeld, Brian Little and graduate students Darylynn Rank and Dennis Rank, tested adults' creativity levels by giving them puzzles to solve. The adults in Notel ware able to solve the puzzles faster than the adults in the other two towns. A third study by graduate student Gordon Handford and Williams observed the amount of participation by the townspeople in community affairs. They found that more people in Notel, especially those 55 and over, participate in community activities more than in Unitel and Multitel. Reading skills of children in grades 2, 3 and 8 were tested by Raymond Cor teen. He concluded "If I had kids I would restrict their viewing ... I would be selective." be selective with what my children watch." The average North American now watches 20 to 25 hours of television a week, she said. In the study, Williams and her associates investigated three towns in B.C., each with a population of 700 to 800. The first town, called Notel by the researchers, did not have television. The second town, Unitel, received only CBC. And the third town, Multitel, had CBC as well as the three major U.S. networks. The researchers first studied the towns in 1973 and 1974. Lesley Joy, Meredith Kimball and Merle Za- brack examined the levels of verbal and physical aggression among the children in the schoolyard and in the classroom. They concluded that the children in Notel, who did not watch television, were less aggressive than the children in Unitel and Multitel, who did watch television. that the children in grades 2 and 3, who did not watch television, had better reading skills than those children who did watch television. Students in grade 8 did not show differences. In another experiment on the effects of television creativity, Williams and graduate student Linda Harrison asked people to describe as many ways to use a newspaper as they could think of. The more imaginative people were able to supply many ideas. People are able to generate more ideas, according to the theory of "ideational fluency," if they have had many direct experiences with life, the report says. Because watching television detracts from these experiences, television viewers have lower levels of creativity, as was the case with the citizens of Unitel and Multitel. Reactions to the environment were also studied by Suedfeld. He found that residents of Notel had a more favorable perception of their environment, than did those of Unitel and Multitel. For example, Notel people showed more interest in maintaining the existing parts of the environment. In 1973 — after the researchers had completed their first study — Notel received television. Two years later, in 1975-76, all three towns were observed and tested again. The second study showed Notel children had become more aggressive, Notel adults took a longer time to solve the creativity puzzles, Notel participation in community activities dropped and reading skills of Notel students in grades 2 and 3 declined. The results of the study prove television may be considered a harmful media. But does television have any positive functions? Williams hypothesized preschool children have an increased vocabulary because of television but said that the studies do not show any positive effect of television. "But then is aggression a positive trait?" Williams asked. "It could be, but I won't make a value judgment." Williams described television as a passive experience rather than an active experience. She suggested that programs which involve viewer participation, such as yoga or certain children's shows, create more participation for the viewer. "Television could be more instructive," Williams said. "The purpose is to be entertaining but all things on TV are teaching us. "Even though they are en- 1978 GRADUATES The BANK OF MONTREAL will be on campus THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 17, and FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 18 to conduct employment interviews. IF YOU: — Enjoy working with people — Are management oriented — Are interested in putting your education and talent to work in a progressive organization — Are looking for an opportunity for advancement based, on merit, in a company offering a wide range of employee benefits and competitive starting salaries — Are mobile throughout B.C. LETS TALK To sign up for interviews please contact your Placement Office on campus for details. tertaining, we still get messages such as what is right and what is wrong, and these messages are not always accurate with reality." The results of the study of the three towns will be published in book form some time in the future, Williams said. She said the book should have an important impact on the scientific community. But she also said many people are curious about the whole question of television in our society and are interested in the results of the study. "More parents are thinking about the role of TV in their family which is good," she said. Williams was also involved in a research project for the Ontario royal commission on violence. She said she found CBC has less overall verbal and psychological aggression portrayed in its programming in comparison with U.S. networks. And if more Canadian content was implemented in CBC, there would be less aggression viewed. "The new head of CBC (Ai Johnson) contends that by 1980 it would have a high level oi Canadian productions," Williams said, adding the CBC has written to her department for copies of the study. But Williams doubts how much impact the commission will have because of the way in which it packages its results. She said some of the conclusions were realistic and some were idealistic. "I wish they would have separated them out," she said. "What seems to have happened is that the easily implemented ones have been lost in the shuffle and thef ar out ones are being used as a vehicle to disparage the whole venture." @ Westinghouse ENGINEERING GRADUATES We're an energy-oriented Company! We manufacture technical products for producing or utilizing electrical energy. And, we are world-wide leaders in the manufacture of Turbines, strongly competitive in the field of Power Transformers, Distribution Apparatus, Switchgear equipment. 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