"CONTENTdm"@en . "University Publications"@en . "2015-07-13"@en . "1931-01-27"@en . "https://open.library.ubc.ca/collections/senmin/items/1.0115599/source.json"@en . "application/pdf"@en . " 111.\n^\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\nA special meeting of the Senate of The University\nof British Columbia was held on Tuesday, January 27th,\n1931, at 8:15 p.m., in the Board Room.\nPresent: President L. S. Klinck (in the Chair),\nThe Honourable the Minister of Education, Mr. Joshua\nHinchliffe, Chancellor R. E. McKechnie, Dean F. M.\nClement, Dean R. W. Brock, Dean D. Buchanan, Mr. E. A.\nLloyd, Dr. G. G. Moe, Mr. J. M. Turnbull, Dr. H. Vickers,\nMr. H. F. Angus, Dr. A. H. Hutchinson, Mr. J. N. Harvey,\nDr. Frank P. Patterson, Mr. E. C. Hayward , Mr. D. L.\nMacLaurin, Mr. G. W. Clark, Mr. P. H. Elliott, Rev. Dr.\nJ. G. Brown, Rev. Dr. W. H. Vance, Dr. G. G. Sedgewick,\nMr. Sherwood Lett, Mr. H. T. Logan, Mr. A. E. Lord, Dr.\nEvlyn F. Farris, Mrs. Beatrice Wood, Dr. C. Killam,\nMiss A. B. Jamieson, Mr. Sydney Anderson, Dr. W. B.\nBurnett, The Most Rev. A. U. de Pencier and Mr. Lyle A.\nAtkinson.\nThe Secretary read the call of the meeting:\nTo consider the present and future basis\nfor admission to the University.\nAn expression of regret at his inability to attend\nthe meeting was received from Canon Sovereign.\nLetters from the Deputy provincial Secretary were\nread announcing that the following persons had been\nappointed members of Senate by orders in council:\nJ. Newton Harvey, Esq., ) For a period of three\nVancouver ) years from January 21st,\nFrank P. Patterson, Esq., ) 1931, and until their\nM.D.C.M.,F.R.S.C.E., ) successors are\nF.A.C.S., Vancouver ) appointed.\nE. C. Hayward, Esq., B.A.\nVictoria\n) For a period of three\n) years from January 24th,\n) 1931, and until his suc-\n) cessor is appointed.\n_j 112.\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\nThe President extended to the new members a hearty\nwelcome to the deliberations of the Senate and expressed\nthe hope that they would enjoy their association with the\nSenate and its duties.\nThe President then introduced the Honourable Mr.\nHinchliffe.\nThe Honourable Mr. Hinchliffe, in his opening remarks, stated that he had come to the meeting in his\nofficial capacity, to lay before Senate the considered\nopinion of the Government in regard to the one particular\nquestion referred to in the notice of meeting.\nThe Minister then read his notes, which follow:\nSALIENT POINTS BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE MINISTER OF\nEDUCATION AT A CONFERENCE HELD BY HIM WITH THE\nSENATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA ON\nJANUARY 27th, 1931.\n1. The Board of Governors has, through the Minister of\nEducation, called the attention of the Government to\nthe condition of affairs at the University, especially in regard to overcrowding, stressing the point\nthat a prompt decision as to the steps to be taken\nto amend such condition is imperative.\n2. Two results of this overcrowding are specifically\npointed out by the Government:-\n(a) That many classes are much too crowded for\neffective teaching to be carried on, and\n(b) That by reason Of this overcrowding there is\ngreatly increased danger of loss of life should\na fire occur.\n3. The Board of Governors has taken the stand that the\nduty of deciding what shall be done in regard to\nthis matter lies entirely with the Government.\n4. The following suggestions which have been made to\nthe Board have been handed on to the Government:\n^ m \" \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 \"\"\"\n113.\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\n1. Reduce the registration to the point where the\npresent accommodation is adequate.\n2. Decline to organize new Faculties or Departments.\ni 3. Restrict the scope of existing Departments to the\nwork being done at present.\n4. Leave the question of increased accommodation in\nabeyance for the time being.\n5. The Government is of the opinion that there are only\ntwo practicable methods by which the difficulty of\novercrowding may be overcome.\nJ.\n(a) Increase the accommodation,\n(b) Reduce the registration.\n,. As at present it is absolutely impossible for the\nGovernment to provide funds for such increased\naccommodation as would relieve the overcrowding, and,\nL as apparently, for some years to come the same con\ndition is likely to prevail, (a) is out of the\n*\" question.\n]^k There seems, therefore, to be only one course left,\ny ^^ namely, to reduce the registration to the point for\nwhich the present accommodation will suffice.\n( 6. The Government finds that, under Section 2 of 75 of\n1926-27 the Senate is charged with the duty of deter-\n> | mining \"all questions relating to the admission of\nstudents to the University or to any Faculty thereof\",\nbut, since the Board of Governors declares that the\n^ Provincial Government is the body that must decide the\nvital question of limitation of registration, the\n^ Government feels that it is justified in coming to\nthis Senate, and declaring its policy, and asking the\n, Senate to put that policy into effect.\nk\n7. The University has, the Board of Governors declares,\n| ; followed the policy laid down by the former adminis-\n* tration, viz., that the institution should be open,\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0j free of charge, to all students with the requisite\nacademic standing. No material change, except the\nimposition of a moderate fee on students, has been\nmade, nor could, the Board of Governors declares, any\nmaterial change be made until the Board was officially\nFt. advised by the Administration that it desired such\nchange .\nV__|\nI w\n>:\n114.\n1\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\n^kw 8\u00C2\u00AB The Government takes the position that conditions are\nnow entirely different from those which prevailed at\nthe time the former Administration laid down its\npolicy, and that it is now absolutely impossible for\nBritish Columbia to provide a University, \"open and\nz free of charge to all students with the requisite\nacademic standing\".\nIndeed from the very beginning the University Act has\nnever required, for in Section 9 of 1924 it limits the\nliability of the University to the extent of its\nresources.\n9. Seeing, then, that the Board of Governors definitely\nJ attributes to the Government the duty of laying down\na policy regarding registration at the University of\nBritish Columbia; seeing that conditions are very\ndifferent from what they were when the former Administration laid down the policy that it desired to have\nji followed; seeing that the situation at the University\nin regard to overcrowding demands immediate attention,\n, the Government feels that it is not exceeding its duty\nu when it lays down its policy in regard to registration,\nand suggests to the Senate that it desires to see that\npolicy carried out.\nr 10. The Government desires,\n(a) That no more students be allowed to enter the\n< University than the buildings can accommodate in\nsuch a manner as to allow the work of the Univer-\nl sity to be done in the most efficient way,\n(b) The Government desires that the candidates for\n{ admission received each year shall be those who\nappear to offer the best possibilities of assimi-\n\u00C2\u00A3 lating and making good use of the education ob\ntained at the University, and suggests that the\nvacancies available each year be filled from the\napplicants in the order of merit in which they\nappear upon the Matriculation pass list.\n' I.\n11. The Government is moved to lay down this policy by\ni certain considerations in addition to those advanced\nby the Board of Governors.\n(a) It would appear that many students now are admitted who should never enter University because,\n* as the President has stated, only about 40% of\nthose who register eventually graduate. (The\ni^^ Government is of the opinion that probably 31%\n^m sould be nearer the mark).\nf\n1 115.\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\n(b) The Government is aware, from the statements of\nparents of past or present students, that a\ncertain number of students now attend University\nalthough they have no intention of doing any\nreal study.\n(c) Now that the Government has officially been made\naware of the possibility of loss of life through\novercrowding in case of fire, it has no course\nopen but to suggest, as it has already done, that\nthe attendance be strictly limited to the accom-\nmoda tion .\n(d) As the Government is interested in seeing that the\nmoney spent on University education is spent to\nthe greatest advantage, it is moved to suggest\nthat students be admitted in order of merit as\ntheir names appear on the Matriculation list.\nThe Honourable the Minister stated that he did not\nwish to enter into a debate but would be pleased to hear\nany questions which might be asked. His wishes in this\nregard were respected.\nA discussion followed in which uuestions were asked\nand views presented.\nAfter the withdrawal of the Honourable the Minister,\"\nthe President stated that copies of the statement submitted by the Board of Governors to the Minister, with\nAccompanying memoranda, and a copy of the Minister's\nstatement to Senate, would be sent to members of Senate,\nthus putting into the hands of Senate all information\navailable at the present time.\n^ 116.\n\"1\n> '-\nf\nTuesday, January 27th, 1931\nDr. Sedgewick)\nDr. Vance ) That the President be authorized\nby Senate to supply members of\nSenate with copies of the papers\nas stated, and that Senate stand\nadjourned to re-assemble at the\ncall of the Chair.\nCarried\nSecretary\n^@/'\nChairman"@en . "Periodicals"@en . "Vancouver (B.C.)"@en . "UBC_Senate_Minutes_1931_01_27"@en . "10.14288/1.0115599"@en . "English"@en . "Vancouver : University of British Columbia Library"@en . 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