"edd76ed5-6637-417c-a475-df563bc9335d"@en . "CONTENTdm"@en . "http://resolve.library.ubc.ca/cgi-bin/catsearch?bid=1190017"@en . "Discorder"@en . "CITR-FM (Radio station : Vancouver, B.C.)"@en . "2015-03-11"@en . "1987-12-01"@en . "https://open.library.ubc.ca/collections/discorder/items/1.0050814/source.json"@en . "32 pages"@en . "application/pdf"@en . " THAT MAGAZINE FROM CITR FM 102 DECEMBER 1987\nsir\nli;''4#\u00C2\u00A3\ntela\n1 THE\nCABARET\nDC\nLU\nCQ\nLU\nO\nLU\nQ\nTues. 1\nWed./Thurs. 2/3\nFri. 4\nSat. 5\nTues. 8\nWed./Thurs. 9/10\nFri. 11\nSat. 12\nTues. 15\nWed./Thurs. 16/17\nFri./Sat. 18/19\nTues. 22\nWed. 23\nThurs./Fri. 24/25\nSat. 26\nTues. 29\nWed. 30\nAFRICAN TUESDAYS\nASA & THE OGEDENGBE DRUMMERS\nRADIO EUROPE\nSKABOOM\nREGGAE SATURDAYS\nAFRICAN TUESDAYS\nASA & THE OGEDENGBE DRUMMERS\nBIG MEDICINE\nTHE LAST CORVAIRS\nREGGAE SATURDAYS\nwith ONE RIDDIM\nAFRICAN TUESDAYS\nASA & THE OGEDENGBE DRUMMERS\nTHE KYLE STEIN BAND\nand SPECIAL GUESTS\nD.O.A. COMES HOME\nand SPECIAL GUESTS\nAFRICAN TUESDAYS\nASA & THE OGEDENGBE DRUMMERS\nT.B.A.\ndosed - MERRY CHRISTMAS\nREGGAE SATURDAYS\nAFRICAN TUESDAYS\nT.B.A.\nNEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY\nVERY SPECIAL SURPRISE\n932 GRANVILLE 684-8368\nMONDAY-SATURDAY 8 P.M.-2 A.M. SUNDAY 7 PM-12 P.M.\nMONDAY & TUESDAY 2 FOR 1 HIGHBALLS All NIGHT\n2 DISCORDER\nWEDNESDAY TO SATURDAY HIGHBALLS 99C FROM 8 P.M.-9 RM. disorder\nThat Magazine form CITR Radio 102\nDecember '87 Vol V No 20 Issue #59\nIN THIS ISSUE\nEDITOR\nBill Mullan\nWRITERS\nJulia Steele, Philip Random, Larry\nThiessen, John Ruskin, Tom Smith,\nJerome Broadway, David Kowan, Mike\nDezell, Janis McKenzie, Helen J. Orr,\nGod, Anthony, Marti, Katherine\nILLUSTRATORS\nWilliam Thompson, Julia Schenck,\nMarty George\nPHOTOS\nHelen J. Orr, U.N. Owen\nCOVER\nDietrich Madsen\nART DIRECTOR\nMatt Richards\nPRODUCTION MANAGER\nMike Grigg\nLAYOUT\nGlen Kruger, Lee-Ann Mitchell,\nMiwako, Julia Schenck, Louise\nMagnuson, Christ Buchanan, Emi\nKoyanagi, Lucy Crowther\nPROGRAM GUIDE\nLouis Jantzen\nTYPESETTING\nDena Corby, Paloma-Claire Equiga-\nray, Maja Grip, Don Schuetze\nBUSINESS MANAGER\nRandy Iwata\nADVERTISING\nLucy Crowther\nDISTRIBUTION\nDavid Newell, Bill Mullan\nSUBSCRIPTIONS\nRandy Iwata\nPUBLISHER\nHarry Hertscheg\nDiscorder Magazine, c/o CITR - UBC Radio\n6138 SUB Blvd., Vancouver, B.C. Canada\nV6T 2A5 S(604) 228-3017\nDiscorder is That Magazine from CITR Radio\n102 and is published monthly by the Student Radio\nSociety of the University of British Columbia, although it winds up being printed deep from within\nSurrey, Canada.\nDiscorder Magazine prints what it wants to, but\npledges to put the CITR On The Dial program schedule and SpinList record chart in every issue. Discorder also vows to circulate 17,500 copies by the\nfirst of each month. Subscriptions are encouraged.\nTwelve issues: $12 in Canada, $12(US) in the\nStates, $18 elsewhere. Make money orders or\ncertified cheques payable to CITR Publications'.\nCITR Radio 102 broadcasts a 49-watt stereo signal throughout the Vancouver area at 101.9 FM.\nBut for best reception, hook up to the FM cable network. CITR is at 101.9 cable FM on Rogers (Lower\nMainland) and Shaw (North Shore) cable systems,\nbut is still at 100.1 on Rogers (Fraser Valley).\nInquiries about CITR, Discorder or the Mobile\nSound System can be directed to station manager\nHarry Hertscheg at 228-3017, between 10 am - 4\npm, Monday to Friday. If you want to talk to the\ndeejay, call 228-2487 or 228-CITR.\nrodents\n> GOD IS AN OVERWHELMING RESPONSIBILITY\nHell is other people\n> NOT rtST ANOTHER GUY IN A FUNNY HAT\nThe Pope Rocks\n> DEAR SIR\nCondemned to Hell\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 THE COOL WHITE LIGHT\nChestnuts, door frames and n\n> NIGHTMARE\nThey're polite\n- WHO IS THE \"ULTRA GOD\"?\nThe most important contest ever\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 THE CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS\nLet \"Bob\" show you the way\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 RANT! RANT! RANT!\nThe Sons of Freedom\nIN MOST ISSUES\n6\n8\n9\n11\n12\n12\n16\n14\n- AIRHEAD\nreaders who write\n- ITS TRUE\nand it's happening\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0 DIS-CH0RD\nthey call it music\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 LOCAL MOTION\nin a city near you\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 ON THE DIAL\neveryperson's guid\n> SPIN LIST\nplatters that matter\n> HINDSIGHT\na good place to finish\nt \u00E2\u0096\u00A0\nto\n4\n20\n19\n26\n24\n29\nDECEMBER 1987 3 AIRHEAD\nC/O CITR\n6138 SUB Blvd.\nVancouver, B.C.\nV6T2A5\nDiscorder,\nI'd appreciate it tremendously if you would\nbe so kind as to print the following in\nAIRHEAD. Thank you! I am an Albertan. I\nam a female Albertan. I am a female Albertan\nwho is moving to Vancouver a year from now\nand desires companionship. I listen to music\ncontinuously; anything from '60s psychedelic to '80s underground. I'd really, really,\nreally like to write someone in Vancouver.\nMy name and address: Bobbi Walls, Box\n1808, Stettler, Alberta, TOC 2L0. Please\nwrite soon.\nit's -rTrueV\n'TIS THE SEASON TO SPEND MONEY (OR\nso they say), and what better way than on a\nDiscorder subscription (for somebody else,\nof course, someone you love, someone you\nhate, someone you don't even know). Not\nonly will they get twelve months of mind-\nbreaking reading, but we'll get real cash.\nYes, we do know what it looks like, and what\nto do with it. We have loads of it in our\ndreams. Subscriptions are $12 for anywhere\nin Canada or the USA, $18 everywhere else.\nDiscorder,\nThe invasion of Cologne will precede the\nBavaria Plan.\n(unsigned)\nIf you're interested, please contact Randy\nIwata, Discorder's Business Manager, at\nCITR (228-3017). It's that easy!\nMeanwhile, there's concert action. Not a\nlot, but here at the edge of the world, who\ncan afford to go out every night anyway? First\nup, The Pogues, pissed-off rogue-folk from\nIreland, with dental work by whoever built the\nCoquihalla Highway (get it?). At presstime,\nit looks like their first show (Monday, December 7th) is a sell-out, so there are strong\nrumours of a second one being added (the\nnext night). Both shows at the Commodore.\nWednesday of the same week (the 9th),\nLove and Rockets roll into town for the third\ntime, this time at 86 Street. Expect wonderful\nmelodies and expanded consciousness.\nExpect a lot of moustaches.\nFinally, a bit of ugly grovelling. Yes! we\ndo want your correspondence. Is everybody\ntoo depressed? Too fulfilled? Are the CSIS\nonto us? How come so few letters to\nAirhead? This is an open forum, folks. Don't\nlibel anybody. Don't be boring. Swear only\nin context. Please. For the children.\nDiscorder,\nThe \"Summer of Love\" happened in San\nFrancisco in 1967. Most of you weren't even\nborn yet and thank God the short-lived\nmedia-induced hippy nostalgia trip has died\n(except in San Francisco). As the eminent\ncartoonist Filbrandt points out, the only thing\nyou have to look forward to is a 70s nostalgia\nrevival. You will soon be dancing like John\nTravolta and wearing platform shoes.\nTravis B.\nCH^t\u00C2\u00A3fv 13\nWITHOUT THINKING-\nI uncmPPEP TH\u00C2\u00A3?ov\u00C2\u00BB\u00C2\u00BBr|\n'eLufofn* tf*TEat>i\u00C2\u00BB<\\u00C2\u00A3NT<\niot4f\t. rifle FUWNWt-\n4Fiea,V4HlCttHr\V&\u00C2\u00A3er4\nftENOCRED USELESS W\nA*TRftY BW-LBr HA* ?W\u00C2\u00BBC-\nTOREp THE MMH Si?W>N\ni-irie, $er t\u00C2\u00ABe ceu. on\nOVERUOAP;AHP \\\)&l\u00C2\u00A3V\nIT BACKHAND TftRP0^\nTfte W/*J*>W op TrtE CAfc\n4 DISCORDER CITR Presents\nTHE JOUBHIY GGNTINHIS\n\u00C2\u00A3m -M-H0\nl^liRyipiciAi^lEsisI\nJANE'S ADDICTION\nI\nWednesday\nDecember 9\nDoors 8 pm\n86 Street Music Hall\nTickets VTC/CBO and all usual outlets.\nCharge by Phone 280-4444.\nTICKETS ON SALE NOW A MOST ;; %?r~3\nCertain, Strange^nd frueDifeorc ycf*\nWITCH,\nfein* ftkcQby fome of the Parliament Forces, as fhc w\u00C2\u00AB*\n' (landing oh a fm.i J J pfinck board a i fjyling t\u00C2\u00AB\n\u00C2\u00AB ore* the JLVer of /Vivtmy:\njefzethet witbrhc ftrangeandtmemanorrof her death, wirb\noie propfceticaJl words *nd ipeccbe* (he \u00C2\u00BB\u00C2\u00ABd at die f mc fuse.\n5^>* <*-* \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 ^\t\nPrinted by f ^;t ^immond, 164?*\nWhat we have is hierarchy.\nImplicit in hierarchy is exclusion; how some things\nare better than others -\nbetter than the OTHER.\nChristianity deals with the\nOTHER by demonizing it. For example: the\nword witch is derived from the term wicca\nwhich is a form of white witchcraft or nature\nworship.\nApproximately nine million women were\nmurdered as witches during the Middle\nAges.\nWhile the language of Christianity is black\nand white, it is mostly hypotactic. What we\nhave is subordination. Some people are\nmore holy, more chosen than others. This is\nwhy a minority can control a majority. Under\nthe guise of \"the white man's burden\" the\ncontinents of North and South America were\neffectively depopulated of native peoples.\nSince god is increasingly problematic, and\nit is now illegal to beat people into submission, there is a reluctance on the part of\nmainstream religion to aggressively convert\npeople, except in the third world. Organized\nreligion has precious little to offer the affluent\nmodern day consumer except prodigious\nsmugness.\nDon't be smug! Discover trees and mountains and rivers and oceans! Create something new and organic; something authentically you! And if you're willing to pay\nsomeone to tell you what you really think,\nremember: there's alway BOB. He hasn't got\na plan, but He knows how to play the game.\nJulia\n\"And it's their feeling that there hav<\nto be centres now where people\ncome and reconstruct a new future for the\nworld. Actually, these centres are growing up everywhere now, and what they're\ntrying to do, which is what Findhorn was\ntrying to do, and in a way, what I was\ntrying to do\u00E2\u0080\u0094now these things can't be\ngiven names\u00E2\u0080\u0094but in a way, these are all\nattempts at creating a new kind of school,\na new kind of monastery. Preserves,\nislands of safety, where history can be\nremembered and the human being can\ncontinue to function, in order to maintain\nthe species through a dark age. In other\nwords, we're talking about an underground which did exist in a different way\nduring the Dark Ages among the mystical\norders of the Church, and the purpose of\nthis underground is to fjnd out how to\npreserve the light. Life. Culture. How to\nkeep things living. You see, I keep\nthinking that what we need is a new\nlanguage, a language of the heart, some\nkind of language between people that is\na new kind of poetry. It's the poetry of the\ndancing bee that tells us where the honey\nis, and I think that in order to create that\nlanguage, you're going to have to learn\nhow to go through a looking glass into\nanother kind of perception where you\nhave that sense of being united to all\nthings, and suddenly, you understand\neverything.\"\n(from My Dinner with Andre)\nSpiritual bliss? Universal love? Is\nit possible through religion? We\nneed only to turn to our most basic\nhuman natures, insists Schopenhauer,\nto find our true outlook on such matters 1 a sense of fufillment in a\nlifelong pleasure 1 \"hatred is by far\nthe longest pleasure, Men love in\nhaste, but they detest at leisure,\"\nDoes hatred fill a spiritual vacuum\nwhen all hope is lost? Is universal\nhate the plight of modern man without\na religion, or are we simply developing a higher esthetic? Who knows?\nSchopenhauer thought he had all the\nanswers, but few people know that he\nwas defeated by the most horrible\nevil .... his dog. If religion\ndoesn't keep mankind from going insane,\nthen what's the point in it? The same\ngoes for Schopenhauer*\nHell is other\npeople.\"\nLet us consider a piece of etieese. We say that this\nhas certain qualities, shape, structure, color, solidity,\nweight, taste, smell, consistency and the rest; but investigation has shown that this is all illusory. Where are\nthese qualities? Not in the cheese, for different observers give quite different accounts of it. Not in ourselves,\nfor we do not perceive them in the absence of the\ncheese . . .\nWhat then are these qualities of which we are so\nsure? They would not exist without our brains; they\nwould not exist without the cheese. They are the results of the union, that is of the Yoga, of the seer and\nseen, of subject and object . . .\nANSWERS? YOU WANT ANSWERS?\nYou may wish\u00E2\u0080\u0094To God?!?\u00E2\u0080\u0094that you'd never\nasked. You'll get your answers, all right. Dobbsian\nHermeticism all-too-fully explains Man's place and\npurpose on this Earth Plane, this hierarchy of\nuniversal cruelties.\nPerhaps the least answerable question in history, here answered, is \"WHY ARE WE HERE?\"\nWhy do we have such a huge capacity for pleasure\nand confusion? Just so we'll keep breeding fast\nenough for some mindless long-range perpetual\nmutation machine?\n(if only it were so! If only it were that simple!!)\nWhat set everything going in the first place\nBEFORE THE BIG BANG? This question terrifies\nthe water out of us if we really grasp it. We almost\ninstinctively grab for some pose, some 'cause',\ncrutch, drug or religion\u00E2\u0080\u0094or even another person\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nthat will let us ignore this hideous mystery, that will\ncreate alibis for our failure to find a purpose in life.\nThe concept of Infinity is so hard to 'get' visceratly\nthat when we look up at the night sky, we tend to\nactually think of the stars merely as randomly\nseparated, inexplicably backlit holes puched in\nsome huge backdrop about a mile away from us.\nYet every now and then we can actually get a\n'feel' for the distances and times involved . . . and\nglimpsing that fact o( eternity becomes REAL\nSCARY if you truly do get a solid grip on that\ninsolidity, THAT ABJECT NOTHINGNESS OF\nGOD'S BRAIN, What scares you is that you might\nbe 'God' and you might wake up, and all those\nfragile physical laws might come crashing down;\nthe spiderweb framework of all reality, even your\nfriend's thoughts, might be erased like some\nprecious but stupidly unlabelled cassette tape\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nnever to be recaptured again.\nThe idea is so scary that the goal of most\nreligions is to preserve and elaborate on that\nconcept of the stars as a big painted backdrop.\nThey make Infinity a 'prop' so you don't have to\nthink about the scary part.\nTHIS RELIGION IS ABOUT THE SCARY PART.\n6 DISCORDER every^c^Q^V^Je sexual pervers\n^^T^r^^^vvi^h demons, an'\n'^tb^^l^cZ \"Unnatural', apj\nt$ iiOdescflptiong Qi their beha\n1 (^^^^^f(^^s modern\nr^ %r^irned^po*v^e rituals\nnjj ^r^e^p^trftrs * and tod\niri&^&t in l&nan Cerement,\nt ^c^c^i^a%if^a^ commc'\nM. wjtto $&Q& mag^^nd so\naf^ ^a^ori^ip^\^h

*H * V\nikeJ^-%^^^ O\nof d % * - ^ ^\nI wasn't the\noriginal Jesus, Joe, the one they crucified. But\u00E2\u0080\u0094this\nhappened a few centuries after I experienced transcendental illumination at Melos\u00E2\u0080\u0094-I was passing through\nJudea in the persona of a Greek merchant when they\ncrucified Jesus. I met some of his followers the day he\ndied, and I talked with them. If you think Christianity\nis a bloody religion as it is, this is nothing to what it\nwould have been if Jesus hadn't seemed to come back.\nIf the seventeen original apostles\u00E2\u0080\u0094five of them have\nbeen purged from the records\u00E2\u0080\u0094had been left on their\nown, they would have passed from horror and terror at\nJesus's death to vindictive fury. It would have been as\nif Islam had come seven centuries earlier, Instead of\nslowly taking over the Roman Empire and preserving\nmuch of the Greco-Roman world intact, it would have\nswept and mobilized the East, destroyed most of\nWestern civilization and replaced it with a theocracy\nmore oppressive than Pharaonic Egypt. I stopped that\nwith a few magic tricks. Appearing in the persona of\nthe resurrected Jesus, I taught there was no need for\nhatred and vengeance after my death. I even tried to\nget them to realize that life is a game by teaching them\nBingo. To this day, nobody understands and critics call\nit part of the commercialism of the Church- The sacred\nTarot wheel, the moving Mandala! So despite my influence, Christianity focused obsessively on the crucifixion of Jesus\u00E2\u0080\u0094which is really irrelevant to what he\ntaught while he was alive\u00E2\u0080\u0094and remained a kind of\ndeath worship. When Paul went to Athens and made\nthe link-up with the Illuminati, who were using Plato's\nAcademy as a front, the ideology of Plato combined\nwith the mythology of Christ to deliver the knockout\nblow to pagan humanism and lay the foundations for\nthe modern world of superstates. After that, I changed\nmy appearance again and took the name of Simon\nMagus and had some success spreading ideas contradictory to Christianity.\"\n(Mysterious message)\njQlf your heart is right, I will keep you;\n}and if you will look constantly to Me, I\nwill uphold you. The minister ofrighteousness shall be in this house; his life\nshall agree with the word and his lips\nshall give forth that which is wholly\ntrue, and it will be no mixture. When\nthe mixture appears, then you will\nknow he is not a minister of righteousness. The deceivers speak first the\ntruth and then error, to cover their sins\nwhich they love. Therefore, I exhort\nand command you to study the scriptures relative to seducing spirits, for\nthis is one of the great dangers of\nthese last days.\n(anonymous, found on the\nground somewhere in\nMount Pleasant) Not Just Another^Gtiy |n a Funny Hat\nBv Philip Random -->* Hh ~7\n' roll. Even their big hit We're Wot Gonna\nForget the Jacksons. Forget Bruce Spring- Take it came across as somewhat hoHow\nsteen. Ditto U2, the Clash, Laurie Ander- somewhat muddy. \v.\nson, The Police and every other concert Next) of COUrse, came the Main Event,\ntour you've seen or are likely to see in Following a half hour intermission, the\n1984. The show of the year happened the houselights suddenly dimmed, then cut\nother night in BC Place Stadium. It was a t0 b(ack altogether. Candles and matches\nnight ot power and of passion, drama and |it tne ajr Tne sweet smell of marijuana\nmusic, colour and pure heartwarming diffused through the building. Then, one\nsplendor. Tuesday night, September 18, by on65 the pope's band assumed their\n1984. the Pope came to Vancouver: ^ positions on the revolving, circular stage\n/J--mu\u00C2\u00AB*-~Sa7--t--WaT~lrpprehensi which was set strategically in the middle\n\~_s- Wering the stadium. The only other of the stadium floor. Two drummers, two\n| concert I'd seen there was David Bowieis percussionists, a three piece horn see\nthe year before, and say what you wartLjtion, two multi-keyboardists, a bassist,\nfor the mans poise and showmanship^ two guitarists and a trimmed down dozen\nhe was simpiy no match for the buildtVig'sV voice boys' choir - all twenty-three dressed\ncavernous immensity. Sure there were./ In identical purple leather gowns which\nmoments when Mr. Bowie overcame the^cUt a stark contrast against the brilliant\nodds and truly did shine, but these were gold stage. They started quietly, an\nonly moments. For the most part, he was ethereal jam barely audible above the roar\nbut a colourful, costumed speck, a bug of the crowd, but slowly increased in\nwith a big voice, a chameleon too distant volume. With a stunning flash of orange\nTto\"be moving. So, understandably, I was light, they shifted intoya rocked up rendi-\n\"V worried Tuesday night. Would BC Place tion of the Hallelujah/Chorus which built\nStadium deal the same cruel blow to John and built until it had reached such an\nPaul II. the Pope from Poland, the man / intense climax that only one thing could\nwidely re.iowned as God's best friend? ! follow: the arrival of the Pontiff himself.\nOpening act Twisted Sister did little to A dozen flashpots ripped forth from the\nassuage my fears. A glam-oriented heavy \ circumference of the stage and suddenly\nmetal act cut from the Alice Cooper mold, \ there he was, John Paul II, splendid and\nthey put on, at best, a sufferable show, untouchable in his rhine-stoned, virgin\nSpirited and loud, they nevertheless proved white leather robes. He held a proud fist\nincapable of achieving that indefinable \ high over his head. The crowd responded\n^mmedjacy whjcjirnjl^sjforclassic rock'rt^-*in kind, andJfaejLhe burst quickly into the \\npunkish anthem No More Abortions.\nAnd this was justjthe beginning. To\ncover the whole concert in depth would\ntake a book. Suffice it to say, it only got\nbetter. For/Almost three hours, all\the\npapal hits] received virtuoso renditions:\nWorking for the Vatican, Jesus was an\nAnarchistj ' Confess, a stunning cover\nversion 6f Frank Zappa's Catholic Girls\nand mahy many more. The band was, in\na word/perfect. The Pope was even better.\nHis voice covered every register, touched\nevery note high or low, and his stage\nantics were nothing short of spectacular:\n^everything from turning a series of cartwheels at the conclusion of / Got the Glory\nto - balancing a thirty foot high silver\ncrucifix from the bridge of his nose during\nthe instrumental break in the middle of\nGod's Blues. The best was saved for last\nhowever when, amid the laser light and\nchemical smoke splendor of Jesus Christ'^\nSuperstar, the Pontiff burst suddenly from\nthe center of the stage and delivered his^\nvocals while flying jabout the stadium withj,\na jet-pack strapped to his back. \"^\nThere were no encpres per se. John\nPaul did returJt-t(Tthe stage but only to\nlead the crowd in an a cappella recital oil\nThe Ten/Commandments, and a special/ .\nextended version of the Lord's Prayer.j.\nThe^houselights flooded back on. The^s\nPope took his bows and the evening was i\ncomplete. An evening to remember, to I\ncherish fondly, to give thanks for. -W\ndo YOU have\nthe\nrcade\nall ages welcome\nRSVP\n8 DISCORDER\n852 Granville St. \ \^^ / WRITE US\nVancouver, B.C.\nCanada V6Z 1K3 \u00E2\u0080\u00A2\n(604) 688-2828 \ 0 /FREE CATALOGUE! 2B\u00C2\u00A3\nVrtoxy\nJack van Impe Ministries <*\u00E2\u0096\u00A0\n48068\nDear Sir: / &\nYou have accused gay lobbyists and activists of purposely infecting the heterosexual\npopulation of North America with AIDS in order to draw away attention from themselves as\nthe major carriers of the disease, when in fact the countries where the disease originated\nsee it as a predominantly heterosexual disease to begin with.\nYou have taken the disease AIDS and portrayed it as a divine punishment and postulated\nits origins in bestiality when the truth indicates that many, many God-fearing, innocent,\nmonogamous or even celibate (to say nothing of mentally retarded or newborn) have\ncontracted the disease through contaminated blood transfusions or inherited it through birth.\nTheir memory is debased by your irresponsible, sensationalist and alarmist inaccuracies and\nmisinformation.\nThe Bible tells us all the events to which you refer will indeed happen. They WILL happen\*}\nwith or without your malicious, ignorant and evident capitalization on the misery of Christian *2\nand non-Christian alike. How much money do you anticipate making on this mockery of\nmodern medicine and Christianity? How much more will it take to make you join the Bakkers\nand other cretins who have made millions by taking the name of God in vain? You can\napparently be bought - so what's the price? Jr ^L ft r JKk\nGod's justice is not always of this world; but occasionally it is. My fondest wish is that you\nreap what you have sown before you stand ashamed and frightened before the gates of\nHeaven. You are an evil, manipulative, devious, self-righteous fearmonger.\nAny universal disaster has its parasites who use fear and ignorance to gain personal profit.\nThe AIDS epidemic is no different. Satan, no doubt is applauding your ingenuity in jumping\non this latest disaster bandwagon by distorting and confusing Biblical truth and medical\nfact to the point where people who have accepted Christ and/or medical professionals alike,\nare disgusted almost beyond words. God knows what you are doing and He will punish you\nsuitably. The medical advice you have provided is largely over-reactive and dangerously\nantisocial. You are sick and because you have done such incredible damage to the efforts ^/l*\nof medicine to fight both the disease and the irrational fear associated with it and done it in^t^V\n.^^ God's name, He will surely turn His back on you before He is finished with this world . . . and\n^^^ff%jfS I am glad. Your memory will be cursed forever. *% ^^HFXl^^^Wt^ltSSff)\n(vertical\n'\u00C2\u00A3g&Pi\nw\nW*t*P&t\nALTERNATIVE MUSIC\nreturns to\nBVWBA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2\"-NewHeADS\n-flaw\n-3-ERKClTt\n16 17 18 19^\nDeath Fljl6USs Sorc unt>\nSQUAD ^A^ HIPP.5S s^-^\nJM^ChASTING*,.\nm^k\u00C2\u00B1\n21veBi\"\">\u00C2\u00B0\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2to*!**\nCABARET\nUNDERGROUND\nROCK'NROuU\n'fe '\u00E2\u0096\u00A0*\nto Book f H=,N*' M- <\H\n686 Powell St. \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 253-6753\n(corner of Powell & Heatley)\nDECEMBER 1987 9 \u00E2\u0080\u0094--SH *****\nDECEMBER\n4 CURIOUS GEORGE with\n12 MIDNIGHT\n5 ONE NIGHT ONLY!\nLETHAL GOSPEL\n11/12 BIFF RACKET with\nTHE SURF HIPPIES\n13 ART OPENING -\nJOEMENABNEY\n18/19 WITCHES HAMMER\nwith guests front Victoria\nMISSION OF CHRIST\n20 All Ages Gig: AMELIA EARHART'S\nXMAS PARTY.\nStarring: THE HIP TYPE,\nTHE EVAPORATORS, WEE BEASTIE,\nONE EYED JACKS, KING MARTIN K &\nTHE TRIBAL BEATS\n31 NEW YEAR'S EVE BASH\nwith WUNDER BRED and\nguests THE FOUR ONES\n$ Cheap Only $8 Bucks!\nCover Charge $3.00 except for special events.\nI UVE MUSIC IN THE LOUNGE I\nI FRIDAYS FROM 10:30-SATURDAYS FROM 11:30 P.M. \\nARTS CLUB THEATRE 1181 SEYMOUR 683-0151\n(p/Kmxy: ro\u00C2\u00B0\n2 * a 1\nWVt*\n111\n******\n>**<&\n*Mo\\n%,y>c>\nvA\n^;>3o.;%\"\n.\u00C2\u00BB*sr*s\nn;?\u00C2\u00B0^,>^^ >'^^3^^\n\u00C2\u00A3*\u00C2\u00BB*\n'^ISS^S'S^\nNSW-\nWHICH\nWILL\nIT BE?\n*ofr\n% ^\n,3w\n^^m$m?\n/fcnV- *\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0*%,,\"-'o.\n>^'A\u00C2\u00BB;9^\n7/ pueisjepun\nlupinoo\n>. jO, Wjfr// ,,^0,,_ ^..<^/.%to<9 / ^Q 'BuiqidUJOS QUI jfQ}\n^\n%A*S$^\n^%/\u00C2\u00B0^o\u00C2\u00B0^/<7 \ v o?t \u00E2\u0096\u00A0'tye* PUB usnq dU] i\u00C2\u00B0 ino PQfJjnos iudP\u00C2\u00B0J\n#Q,\n^\u00C2\u00B0\ndn if Buipjoq if uieeujepun\nafdoed aj9M bjqui ssouj uf pojdAOO\nSBM }BLf} 9>fBf B p d6pQ 9l# }B ^S /\nIN THE PRESENCE OF O\n\"BOB\" \u00C2\u00ABgr\nJust prior 10 a \"Bob\" appearance, you can\nexpect a low-level hum, like bees, accompanied\nby a pungent odour and stifling heat. Your\nextremities will start tingling and then go numb,\nand you wilf suddenly feel \"high\" as if drugged.\nAs the Grin and Pipe materialize, your watch will\nstop, but any wounds or diseases will be healed.\nIf you are carrying a tape deck, the tape will be\nerased but the batteries will be recharged. As\n\"Bob\" comes into full being, you may risk being\ndriven mad by exposure to the \"dofs\" and to the\nPstench of \"Bob\": psychophantasmagorical sight/\nsound/odour which seemingly fills the seven\ncontinents and twenty seas. His aura, his energy\ncolour, glows white hot with the blackness of the\nRift between Earth, Water, Fire and Air.\nDECEMBER 1987 11 They dress in cheap off-the-\nrack clothes and wear dull\nindoctrinated frowns. They can\nbe found standing mannequinlike on street corners or travelling in pairs through unsuspecting neighborhoods. They are irritating, annoying, and worst of all, polite.\nThey are called \u00E2\u0096\u00A0^Bsm**m^E&*\u00E2\u0080\u0094\u00C2\u00BB*\nand they persist on coming to your door.\nSo, how do you discourage them? Well,\ndepending on your personality you may\nwant to try one of the following suggestions.\nA. The Very Polite Person\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Ask them to come back later.\nThen refuse to answer the door.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Tell them you have to go give\nblood.\nB. The Not So Polite Person\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Yell obscenities and slam the\ndoor.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Douse them with cat's litter box.\nC. The Sick Perverted Person\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Invite them in and seat them.\nThen momentarily excuse yourself. Return naked, fondling your\ncrotch, screaming Satan! Satan!\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Graphically describe bizarre sexual practices.\nD. The Paranoid Multiple Murderer\nPerson\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Mistake them for bolshevik infiltrators, and open fire. Then proceed to the nearest JWflP^\n^ttflbr Church (or fast food\nrestaurant) kill everyone and then\nshoot yourself.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Run amok with a chainsaw in a\n^gB^fower publishing house.\nE. The Pagan Cannibal Person\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Use them for victims as you\nperform a ritual sacrifice. Offer\ntheir bodily fluids to your favorite\nidol.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Bake in a shallow covered pan\nat 350 for five hours. Uncover,\nadd vegetables and bake an\nadditional five hours, basting occasionally.\nJerome Broadway\n12 DISCORDER\nwa WHO IS THE\nultra\nDiscorder is seeking the answer to perhaps the most\nimportant question of our t\nLme. Who will bring on\na NEW AGE of TOTAL CONVENIENCE? Who is the Ultra-\nGod? This is not a joke\nThis is Democracy.\nDiscorder has narrowed all\nhumanity to twenty-five\npossible choices. The rest\nis up to you.\n1. Alan Alda\n2. Bono\n3. Ed Broadbent\n4. Cher\n5. Dick Clark\n6. Bob Dobbs\n^t^w\n7. Clint Eastwood\n8. Jane Fonda\nJm^tlm^k\n9. Michael J. Fox\n^r^Uia^^i\n10. Mikhael Gorbachev\nf 1HI i\n11. Charlton Heston\n(\u00E2\u0096\u00A0I\n12. Bob Hope\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0HI\n13.\nfm\n14. Jesse Jackson\n15. David Letterman\n111\n16. Wink Martindale\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0#\n17. James Michener\nIf\n18. Eddie Murphy\n1*\n19. The Pope\nr\n20. Johnny Rotten\n21. Carl Sagan\n22. Steven Spielberg\n23. Mary Tyler Moore\n24. Yourself\n25. The people who compilec\nthis\nMail/order/courier your vote\nto DISCORDER c/o CITR\nUBC Radio, 6138 SUB Blvd,\nVancouver, BC, V6T 2A5.\nWinner will be announced in\nthe March issue. 2ND SKIN 432 HOMER 683-7607 432 HOMER It'llII HOMER STREET\nBo* u);** <*t>ouf ft We hoA tf*\nDECEMBER 1987 13 Rant! Rant! Rant!\nhe Sons of Freedom\nImagine someone taking so much interest in what you have to say that they\nactually stick a microphone in your face\nand publish the results in a magazine!!!\nHard to believe, but it's called an\ninterview. Now who among us wouldn't\ngive up a damage deposit or two to take\npart in one of these charades? Oh, you four\nagain, the guys with Sons of Freedom\ntattooed on their kuckles, and the most active\n(popular?) demo tapes of the year on CITR\n(Blind Children and Alice Henderson). You\nfeel that an interview, with its built-in suspicion and unfamiliarity, doesn't breed a witty,\nconsidered response to the questions? Fair\nenough. We'll meet on the Endowment\nLands at midnight, pens a-poised. Be there\nor be prepared to answer a lot of questions\nabout your favourite string gauges.\nGentlemen:\nVarious sources (you've heard of them,)\ninformed me before I began work on this\nfeature that the Sons of Freedom were\n\"determined to succeed\", the implication or\nimprecation being that this statement could\nbe finished with the phrase \"...at all costs.\"\nHaving what you could call a calculated\nappearance schedule tends to support this.\nThis is perfectly jake with me. However, I'm\ncurious, and I'd like to exorcise this curiosity\nwith the article.\nKeeping in mind the band's commercial\nstrengths (an affinity for the infectious phrase,\na distinctive sound, an apparent belief in\nwhat they're doing) and weaknesses (no-\n14 DISCORDER\nbody' round there looks remotely like George\nMichael, and they're not exactly the bubbliest collection of chaps), it's obvious they are\nnot going to compete at the same level as\nLisa and the Cult Jam. Hate to break the\nnews. So, I'd like to know where the group\nplaces themselves in the commercial spectrum, and answer the questions that conveniently result from this placement. For instance, is there a set limit of artistic\naccomplishment available before the artist\nhas to back-track, or at least hesitate, to\nreach a larger audience. Secondly, do they\nin fact place any value on commercial\nachievement at all, or are they really, truly,\ncontent with the attitude that the only\naudience you have to answer to is yourself.\nFinally, what about the theory that rock and\nroll is an inherently popular art form or no art\nform at all; that is, if the artist doesn't please\nthe audience, then the problem is not in the\naudience but in the artist, and he or she\nshould take a look at their art before\ncondemning the audience as capitalist fools.\nOr just plain fools.\nI realize the above are variations on\nbasically the same question, but it's an issue\nthat has bothered writers, painters, film\ndirectors (?) since The Iliad, and I think Sons\nof Freedom are at the right stage of their\ndevelopment to address it. If they feel more\ncomfortable with a written reply, that's fine\n-perhaps better. We await with baited hook.\nWrite back soon!\nAlmost yours\nMike Dezell\nDiscorder,\nThe Sons of Freedom will fuck you up\nbad. Fuck with your dreams and fuck with\nyour head. It's about sex and balls and\ndeath. No questions no answers. The future\nis in your head, what you've got to do is find\nit. Questions are never meant to be answered, only posed and left to open the\ndoor for more questions. Getting fucked up\nwill tell you more about yourself and your\nenvironment than any self-searching questions or accusing fingers ever will. It's quite\nsimple - follow your nose. There are no fools,\nthe only person who can really judge who\nwins or loses is yourself.\nThe Sons of Freedom will succeed at all\ncosts, but under our own terms only. We may\nlook like failures in ten years, but we will be\nthe judges and no-one else. We are survivors, and try to speak on behalf of anyone\nwho's trying to come to terms with their\nideals. This planet is big enough to support\nthe ideals of anyone, no matter how extreme\nthose ideals might be. By romanticising or\nridiculing the 'radical' or 'starving artist', one\nenforces the idea that to try to change the\nway you feel, think, work is foolish. This is a\nlie. It undermines the integrity of the human\nspirit. Wake up. There are lots of things to\nthink about, and no reason to follow the\nmasses. We are not perfect, nor do we\npretend to be. We believe in ourselves and\nin humanity and we feel it is better to\ncelebrate defeat than to be too afraid to fight\nat ait. Sometimes truth hurts; sometimes so\nbad you'd rather hear a lie. We believe in\ntruth, for what it's worth. When you see truth,\nit's like looking at the sun when you have a\nhangover - it's brutal and you can't hide it,\nor get away from it. Truth holds no grudge\nor conscience. It exists only unto itself.\nSometimes it's very unpleasant to look at or\nexperience. We celebrate the beauty in truth,\nand encourage others to do the same. We\nhaven't made any serious compromises yet,\nand don't see why we should start now. We\nhave no idea where we place ourselves in\nthe commercial spectrum. So you think\nPicasso ever gave this much thought?\nFrankly, we don't fucking care. Rock and roll\nis not art, yet at the same time it is art. Who\ncares? Does it make any difference what\nwe call it?\nWe still haven't figured it all out, and make\nno excuses for this. It takes a long time for a\nband (any living thing) to grow up. We're\nbarely a year old. We will deal with what we\nhave to deal with, when we have to deal with\nit and time will tell whether or not we handle\nit well. We have high hopes and ideals, and\na good lawyer. Naivete is a joke in this band.\nWe are proud to be jaded. We refuse to be\nripped off and refuse to shit on anyone else.\nIntegrity is God. Rant rant rant. 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Q\u00C2\u00ABU Your\nJOB! iSLACKOl^\nTHE SUBGENIUS:\nPatriot or Alien? Personal Saviour or False Prophet?\nNurd or Hero?\ninspired Madman or Complete Jackass?\nIF you suspect that things are much worse than you\never suspected\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF the only thing you've been able to laugh at for the\nlast ten years is the fact that NOTHING is funny\nanymore\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF you sometimes want to collar people on the street\nand scream that you're more \"different\" than they\ncould possibly imagine\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF you can help us with a donation\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF you see the whole universe as one vast morbid\nsense of sick humour\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF the current 'Age of Progress' seems more like the\nDark Ages to you\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nIF you are looking for an inherently contradictory\nreligion that will condone megadegeneracy and yet\ntell you that you are \"above\" everyone else\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nTHEN THE CHURCH OF THE SUBGENIUS COULD\nSAVE YOUR SANITY!\nINSTANT ANSWERS TO EVERYTHING!\nTHIS IT IT! THE ONLY FAITH THAT PROMISES\nACTION, THRILLS, SUCCESS IN SEX AND BUSINESS!\n\"JUST EXACTLY WHAT IS THIS CHURCH OF THE\nSUBGENIUS?\"\nThat question is asked a thousand times a day,\nevery day, somewhere. And it's a good thing, because\nthat's the most pertinent question to ask in this modern\nage. There is no description. Words do not suffice.\nOne must \"SEE\".\nWe let you see a little at a time until you are led\ngradually to TOTAL CLARITY. It is The Nameless\nMission. The true mission is always nameless. To\nname it is to doom it... to alert the enemy.\nTHE SUBGENIUS MUST HAVE SLACK!!!\nBut as the million-legged church crawls around\ninside your cranium, there is one point it keeps\nreturning to. It is the very point of the Church. THE\nPOINT IS \"Bob\". \"Bob\" is and was e id shall ever be.\n\"Bob\" is you. \"Bob\" is me. \"Bob\" is the Kama Sutra,\nthe Id, the light that glows in the heart and mind of\nEVERY free-thinking SubGenius. And \"Bob\" is a man.\nIt's \"Bob\". It always comes down to that. Because\n\"BOB\" IS SLACK!\n\"IS THIS SOME KIND OF TWISTED JOKE?\"\nWell, if you thought this Church was a joke, then\nyou'll by God never 'get' the punchline. Oh, we're the\n'first to admit that we deliver far more laughs and yuks\nper dollar than Scientology, the Unification Church, or\nany other religious group, except possibly the Southern Baptists. But they are for Braindeath. We are\nagainst Braindeath. No, this is NO JOKE. NO PARODY.\nOnly the foulness of your programming keeps you from\nbelieving we have millions of members, nationwide\nrevivals, radio shows and so on. But we do. Not only\nare we not kidding, but we'll even PISS YOU OFF.\nIndeed, that's our job, our calling, OUR MISSION.\nWe're going to shock the hell out of every man, woman\nand child on this planet. It's a big job, and we only\nhave until 1998 to do it. \ i \u00C2\u00BBy\nARE\nALIEN\nSPACE MONSTERS\nBRINGING A\nj&b STARTLING\nS% NEW WORLD?\nVOOM& \u00E2\u0084\u00A2\nUNSPEAKABLE!\nSensationalism is just the lure we use in order to\ncommunicate in all sobriety certain awful histories and\na secret fate for the Earth so unspeakable that it may\ntake several books to prepare you just to read it.\nBecause if you are reading this in the late 20th Century,\nEVERYTHING YOU KNOW REALLY IS WRONG. You\nare an uncivilized, ignorant, BARBARIC peasant that\nwill be looked back upon by future generations with\nevery bit as much pity as you regard the plague-ridden\nwretches of Medieval Europe. Your 'civilization' got off\nso heavily on the wrong foot, is so far off the track, and\nwill keep going so far from where it is 'meant' to be,\nthat YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SLACK IS.\nTHE PLAIN TRUTH!\nLook around you and face it. It's been obvious for\nalong time. The world is composed mostly of assholes.\nAll kinds of ignorant, dangerous, thoughtless louts are\nin positions of power, respect and influence, while\nsome of the bravest, most capable and deserving\npeople you know are forced to waste their talents\nslugging it out in a thankless cycle of brainbreaking\nlabour and mental paralysis. Checks and balances?\nWhat a joke! There are none. To think the system will\nimprove by itself is a PIPE DREAM.\nFACE FACTS! WISE UP! SNAP OUT OF IT!\nYou're fooling yourself if you think this\nsociety, this Western Civilization tinkertoy\ncage of overpopulation is going to last\nanother forty years. THEY'VE DONE\nTHINGS TO THE ATMOSPHERE, THE\nOCEANS, AND THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC\nFIELD THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.\nNotice the funny weather lately?\nARE WE CONTROLLED\nBY SECRET FORCES?\nDo you ever get the feeling\n\"BOB\" IS EVIL! that-freevWiris.jolce?\nTo our primitive forefathers, the force of evil was not\nsomething against God, but a necessary primal force\nof Nature\u00E2\u0080\u0094the black, dreadful survival-of-the-fittest\npart of existence that goes beyond the platitudes of\nthe Love Gods of simpletons and makes life VITAL\ninstead of dead and unchanging. The \"evil\" of\ncompetition creates mutation and upward evolution.\nTHE POSSIBILITY OF DEATH MAKES A YOU GET OFF\nYOUR ASS. lAJ .\nWe should fear the gods because if we\ndon't, they'll stop letting Us have fear and without fear\nwe are also without choice, and without \"goodness*.\nYes, we must change our idea of evil, but we MUST\nNOT ELIMINATE IT, because that's what The Conspiracy and The Elder Gods most desire. If we can't\nrecognize evil, we can't recognize them. And, friends,\nThey are the evil side of evil..\nThings will get a lot worse before they\nget better, and any person, place or thing\nthat tries to tell you otherwise, whether\non TV, radio, OR AS A VOICE IN YOUR\nHEAD, is part and parcel of The Conspiracy, the Conspiracy-Around-A-Conspir-\nacy, and the megaconspiracies that spiral\nwell beyond this planet in nets of covert\nmanipulation. YEAH, the TV news leaves\nout a few facts here and there.\nthe SubGenius id\nYOU MAY DIE/\nWHAT IS THIS CONSPIRACY?\nThe Conspiracy formed the background of your\nentire life. It is inner conflict. It is your inferiority\ncomplex or your delusion of grandeur. It is nervous\ntension, the habit of worry. It is your darkest, most\ndebilitating fears, and it's what keeps you afraid, what\nmakes you scared to walk home alone at night. IT IS\nTHE VERY REASON FOR ALL YOUR PROBLEMS.\nOne of Their very most effective tools is TECHNO-\nBOREDOM\u00E2\u0080\u0094 what passes for fun among Mediocretins\nis deadening, false roleplay PAP to a SubGenius. They\nBURY the alternatives. They're also expert at GUILT\nMANIPULATION. A long, long time ago, They invented\nthe labels of \"success\" and \"failure\" (as opposed to\n\"good\" and \"bad\") and made them stick. That gets\nyou to sacrifice irrationality. If you don't go along with\nevery trivial request THEY make, if you don't try to carry\nthe world on your back, both of which are impossible,\nyou're supposed to feel like you \"failed\" somehow.\nYou have a right to be disgusted with CRAP\u00E2\u0080\u0094to\nLUST after BODIES\u00E2\u0080\u0094to FLEE from unwinnable fights.\nDON'T BE A BUSINESS MAN ON A CROSS! \"Bob\"\nsays we should stand firm and fight for our right to fail\ninstead of forever beating our heads against a brick\nwall They set for us. RELISH YOUR MISTAKES. We\nseek Perfect laziness\u00E2\u0080\u0094a perpetual motion lifestyle of\nwork/play\nAs long as those Cage Men and Box Dwellers run\nthis planet, its economies and ecologies face certain\nextinction. We must rise to our rightful places, grip the\nreins of evolution and, with our Outsider's WarpKnowl-\nedge, wrench human culture out of its subliminally\nprogrammed mental slumber.\nOur One-World Religion is the only sane alternative\nto Their totalitarian One World Government.\n\"Sub-\nIF YOU'RE A HUMAN, YOU'VE READ TOO FAR.\nTHROW THIS MAGAZINE AWAY! The Conspiracy\nsystem burns humans as fuel. Subgeniuses aren't\nhumans. They gum up the works.\nBOB IS NOT A FAN CLUB!\nMost people totally misunderstand the term\nGenius\". Look at the word. What does it mean?\nIt means NOTHING! It's utterly ambiguous. All-\npurpose. It sure as hell doesn't mean \"just below\ngenius level\". To \"Bob\" and his mighty friends in The\nCouncil of None, one happy idiot is worth far more\nthan ten A-bomb-inventing geniuses. We throw most\nso-called \"geniuses\" out. They're too nervous. They\ntake themselves too seriously. They're snide. They do\nnot truly 'know' Slack.\nPraise \"Bob\", there are as many idiot SubGeniuses\nas \"smart\" ones. Most prevalent, however, are\nsmart-asses. It isn't brains, but an intuitive anti-Pink,\nanti-cute ATTITUDE MUTATION. The Conspiracy has\nproved that you can have \"high intelligence\" but still\nnot be able to think.\nSubGeniuses are merely The Chosen People\u00E2\u0080\u0094the\nclass which cannot be classified, those who are\ndifferent not only from others, but from each other. IF\nANY TWO ARE THE SAME, ONE MUST GO! We band\ntogether only for strength, and only temporarily. The\nConspiracy used to KILL people who displayed\nSubGenius traits. Thanks to the countless martyred\nevo-and-devolution cults that paved the way, nowadays you're merely penalized financially, socially and\nsexually for weirdness.\nMUST HAVE SLACK!!\nNot all SubGeniuses act and look weird. Many must\nencase their weird thoughts inside a guise of Normalcy\njust to survive and infiltrate. Why, some of the main\nSaints of the Church look just as Pink as the day they\nwere born.\nRemember, a 'SubGenius' isn't a member of any\norganization. It is a life form. Dobbs Consciousness\nisn't a philosophy or gameplan\u00E2\u0080\u0094it's the main quality\nof an entire species that has always been here, but\nhas never needed a name. THINGS HAVE SIMPLY\nNEVER BEEN THIS BAD BEFORE. If we don't start\nrecognizing it, we won't notice when They finally\ndestroy it.\nDO PEOPLE THINK\nYOU'RE STRANGE?\nDO YOU??\nTHE ONES TO BE AVOIDED\u00E2\u0080\u0094\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094yet the hardest to get rid of\u00E2\u0080\u0094are those who\nbehave as weirdly as possible but are really insecure\ncloset normals doing it only for attention from the\nopposite sex or something equally inconsequential.\nSubGeniuses are not just the super-cool. EVEN\nCHRISTIANS CAN BE SUBGENIUSES, believe it or\nnot.\"Wide-open-minded\" sure doesn't mean Punk or\nNew Wave or Liberal; that's all fashion slavery financed\nby The Conspiracy. The hippies were easy enough to\nbuy. They sold their cultural fringe to the Normals\ncheap! And soon the Normals will consider us\nfashionable. That's why we owe no loyalty to Right\nWave, New Wing or anyone else. WE MUST TRANSCEND STYLE THROUGH NONSTOP STYLE METAMORPHOSIS. THE SUB-SUBCULTURE MUST ALWAYS BE ONE STEP BEYOND COOL.\nWHAT IS SLACK?\nMan was born with original Slack, yet most civilized\npeoples don't believe in it, and their most learned\nscholars can't even comprehend it. That is why the\nIdiot is closer to the Divine, why \"Bob\" is adulated for\nhis Follies rather than his skills. If you do not believe\nin Slack, it will not make itself available to you.\nSlack is the Aladdin's Lamp that opens the other five\nsenses. It is the yardstick by which we should measure\nourselves. It is the only good reason to get out of bed\nin the morning, and if you don't believe that, you are\nsurely lost in Perdition.\nTHE SLACK THAT CAN BE DESCRIBED IS NOT\nTRUE SLACK!\nSlack, in its cosmic sense, is that which remains\nwhen all that is not Slack is taken away. But Slack is a\ntrickster. It is unknowable, ineffable, unsearchable . .\n. hidden in revelation. Slack is neither created nor\ndestroyed. If you don't have it, it's somewhere it\nshouldn't be! Abstract until incomprehensibility, it is\nthe definitionless, insubstantial substance of the\nAll\u00E2\u0080\u0094the ISness of the BIZness.\nFor up-to-date information on The Church of The\nSubgenius, send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to:\nTHE SUBGENIUS FOUNDATION\nP.O. BOX 140306, DALLAS, TEXAS 75214\nWe welcome contributions of any kind:\nletters, artwork, photos, clippings, articles, sin materials, artifacts, money, sacrifices, tapes and all other shreds of\nhumanity. NOT TAX DEDUCTIBLE. We\nwould rather not hear from Mediocretins,\nPinks, Glorps or False Prophets.\nYOUR KIND SHALL TRIUMPH! h eiep^eiQei\nTape Duplicating Centre\n203-2182 W. 12th Ave.,\nVancouver, B.C. Canada V6K 2N4\n(604) 734-4546\nDivision of SCvnn Magnetic* Corp.\n\H\nEC0RD1 Since next month's Local Motion\nis going to be a big year-end\nwrap-up, this one's going to try\nto be short. In the meantime, if\nanyone wants to tell me what\nthey think's worth mentioning\n(for the year or any time, about local music\nor whatever), I'm always looking for stuff to\npass on. So write to Local Motion c/o\nDiscorder and do it soon, because our\ndeadline is incredibly early.\nNovember's Shindig semi-finals ended\nwith the Four Ones (disputed) winners over\nTippy A-Go-Go and the Humane Drum\nSociety and Big Can of Dog Food They'll\ngo on to meet the other two semis victors in\nthe finals December 14. As for the \"disputed\" part, controversy's raging within and\nwithout CITR about the Four Ones'victory\nover Tippy - not surprising when you\nconsider the huge variety of music that gets\nlumped together under that word \"alternative\". I was at the finals two years ago when-\nsome friends of Death Sentence got a little\nupset that they didn't win (which led to the\nSavoy's no-hardcore policy).\nThe other semi-finalists so far, The Rain-\nwalkers, have suffered a bit of a setback:\nTheir drummer was in an ugly car accident\nand will have to play the finals with his back\nin a brace. Get better soon, Brian, and\nmeanwhile, send that new demo out to the\nstation!\nAnd the band that won Jast year's Shindig\n(coincidentally enough, narrowly knocking\nout The Rainwalkers - then The Void - in\ntheir first round) Stubborn Blood has just\nlost guitarist Dan Danger. Peter Curtis has\nbeen doing solo gigs, but the band has not\nbroKen up - there's a 4-song EP in the works\nand they're looking for a new guitarist so\nthey can play live as a band again (Also\navailable now: band teeshirts!)\nMy favourite demo this month comes from\nOgre. As of press time, I haven't been able\nto decide which songs to playlist, because\nthey're all pretty great. They recorded seven\nsongs in twelve hours, and, as the note says,\nthey \"left in all the mistakes for your listening\npleasure.\"\nEven if I'd never seen or heard them before\n(or even Slow, whence sprang Hamm and\nTerry) the song titles might have been\nenough to win over my heart. But I have seen\nthem, a couple of times. The first time, at\nChannel 1, must have been one of the first\ntimes they played together (just a few weeks\nearlier, at a party, Hamm and Terry asked\nme - joking, I'm pretty sure - if / wanted to\nsing for them). Hamm and the two guitarists\nset themselves up in Status Quo poses (the\nformer nearly smashing his head on the\nceiling) while Terry and the other drummer\nthrashed loud and mindlessly and the singer\nscreamed stuff like \"Bowling with Satan!\"\nThey were all in Spandex or something like\nit (this was before Hamm's famous fake fur\nbreech-cloth) and left the audience more or\nless in shock, with their ears bleeding. The\nband was almost as loud as Redd Kross\nand the Butthole Surfers (gods! gods!)\nwere just this past month; and considerably\nlouder than the football stadium U2 show.\nWhat can I say? I loved them. And I still do,\nlistening to this tape where almost every line\nof the lyrics is a gem (especially? in Fetch\nthe Archbishop), and the frenetic heavy\ntimeless drumming competes with the nood-\nliest guitar solos you've ever heard (and\nliked, or laughed at). As long as Ogre don't\ntake themselves seriously, I'll be crazy about\nthem. And if for some reason you haven't\nseen them yet... .\nJanis\nIntense\nmoving pictures on the wall\nthey yelled NOMEANSNO\nI was stumped\nIntense\nand my brain was getting tall\nand\nmy Brain was gonna\nblow\nand thumped\nwe are breaking down the fence\nthe words were twisting my mind\nbut\ninstead it was Eaten\nand thrown\nIntense\nI was no longer blind\nby a tv set secretion\nand bumped\nathon\nthey were singin'\n\1' y\nIt went on and on and on\nand swingin'\nJill\nD.O.A. D.O.A.\nand watchin'\nwas\nWE\nwell I walked through a maze\nand grinnin'\npainting\n\u00C2\u00A3\u00C2\u00AB~\nARE\nI was in a kind of daze\nwhile I\n^JlW-\nD\na beat\nI was Sentenced to Death\nwas\n0^fs\n0\na beat\nand it left me outa breath\nfainting\nA\nthat would sweep you off yer feet\nI was .stemmed\nit was Tippy\nand rammed\nthere was so much to happen\nand that's all I have to say\nthe man\nand rolled\nthat my brain\nand the beat was his plan\nand jammed\nit was a snappin'\nM.\nDECEMBER 1987 19 The belief was, what the hell? Sure\nthey're huge, but there might be a\nchance. If the questions are good -\nprovocative perhaps - they might\njust see us as a breath of fresh air, a\nchallenge. They might just remember that\nlast time they came to town (1983), they had\nsome time for us; and the time before as\nwell, of course (sure CFOX presented the\nshow, but that was just hype. CITR was the\n. only station in town that had a clue of what\nthey were about).\nBut, of course, it doesn't work that way.\nRoundabout the time we faxxed the questions off, we heard about the Press Conference in Toronto, the only direct media\ncontact they'd be having for the entire tour.\nWe were naive. U2 aren't huge. They're\nHUGE!!! They're not \"As Big As The\nBeatles,\" they're \"As Big As U2.\" Beatlema-\nnia is history. The U2 thing is current. They're\na significant chunk of what \"is\" these weird\ndays, like Oliver North, like AIDS, like the\ndissolving ozone and Ronald Reagan's dissolving brain. Maybe it's the end of rock 'n\nroll. Maybe it's the end of the world. One\nthing is sure, we weren't going to get an\ninterview. So here's a couple of the questions\nanyway:\n1. In a very real way, you've had to grow\nup in public, and, no doubt, you've made a\nfew widely quoted claims which you've since\nlived to regref in one way or another. Could\nthis apply to the publicizing of your Christian\nfaith? Do you think that perhaps you could\nhave accomplished more (in a subversive\nsense) were this kept quiet? In other words,\nwhere would U2 be now if they'd never done\nan interview?\n2. Do you sometimes worry that as hugely\nsuccessful Rock Stars! you have too much\npower, that the nature of the Rock 'n Roll\nmachine is to elevate a handful of successful\nindividuals to God-like status? Are you not\nperpetuating this contradiction by playing\nhuge fifty, sixty, seventy thousand seat\nstadiums where the possibility of real intimacy/\nsuccessful communication with even ten\npercent of those present just doesn't exist?\n3. In a recent Rolling Stone interview, Bono\nregretted the tendency of (some) fans to\nlavish more praise and adulation on the\nindividuals in the band, than on the music\nitself. Yet, ever since The Unforgettable Fire,\nvirtually every U2 album cover, promotional\ngraphic, calendar and the like has featured\nas its prominent focus, photographs of the\nindividual band members. Is this not a\ncontradiction?\n20 DISCORDER\nA 16-second interview with Dave Gregg]\nWho are you: Dave Gregg of DOA.\nWhat does your dad do: He plays drums,\nbuilds boats and scrolls DOA\ngraffiti on the washroom walls\nof B.C. Ferries.\nWhat's Chuck Biscuits doing: He's drumming a few tracks for RUN-\nDMC's new album.\nWhat's your favourite type of soap:\nIsotope Soap on the Let\nThem Eat Jellybeans Ip.\nlimilllli\n4. To what degree does your successful\ninvolvement in Show Business satisfy personal desires for fame and power? You said\nsome years ago in Rolling Stone (1981) that\nsomeday you'd be as big as the Beatles.\nHas this been a worthwhile goal?\n\"There's a lot of tension between the\nband and U2. Not with me really, but\nthere's a couple of the other band\nmembers who really loathe U2. The thing\nthat really bugs us about them is people\nsaying, 'U2 are the saviours of rock, and\nthey're the new spokesmen for Ireland',\nand I defy anyone to find something that\nthey've actually said about Ireland. All\nthey've ever said is like, 'Everyone be\npeaceful!' Well, a two-year-old could say\nthat. The fact of the matter is, there's\nsome really serious shit going down up\nthere and it's been ignored for so long.\nWhat we're trying to do is just say, 'Look,\nthere is something going oni up there.\nMaybe you should read aboutjit,' and U2\nis saying, 'Oh, everything's fine. Just be\npeaceful, because we're making so much\nmoney.' I don't like the hypocrisy. And\nalso Bono taking people on tours of\nDublin saying I grew up here in Balamena\n(?) which is just a total ghetto; and as a\nmatter of fact, he didn't grow up there.\nThey're all middle class boys who've just\ncoasted through life,\"\n(Steve Mack of That Petrol Emotion)\nTHE JESUS AND MARY\nCHAIN\nDarklands\nThe Reid brothers, so prolific in their synthesis of feedback and distortion, have discovered the benefits of melodies and disillusionment on their new LP. The result is that their\nblanket of noise has been moved into the\nbackground, and instead of singing about\npsychocandy and Cindy they now sing about\nrainy days and being dragged down to Hell.\nSo if you are part of the sinful masses who\nhave obtained a one-way ticket to Hell, pick\nup a copy of this great album to make your\ntrip and your stay in the fiery pits more\nenjoyable.\nChris Buchanan\nCRIMINAL ELEMENT ORCHESTRA\nPut the Needle to the Record\nCooltempo, UK/Criminal Records, US\nStretch your under-used surrealist imagination into sensing what it would be like to be\nan organic drum kit. Then imagine your\nbreathing, heartbeat, thoughts, functions\nand reactions being masterminded by the\nmost ferocious of skin-beaters who throbs,\nstrokes, beats, thrashes and crashes all your\nsenses into one infectiously inflammatory\nand maliciously chunky bonzai beat. Now\npicture (with your ears) little time-altered\nmidgets and giants dancing about your\nsense of reality; and horns, and Prince's\nguitar, and even Jodi Whatley added for\nsurrealisms sake. Then the beat just goes\non...and...on... By now you are so much a\npart of it, you become it; as a drum kit\nbecomes the beat, so do you. And then you\nsay shut-up.\nRobert Shea ALEX CHILTON\nHigh Priest\nPUBLIC IMAGE LTD\nHappy?\nLydon and Alex Chilton are two heavy-duty\ndudes. Genuine rock legends. Probably\npoor roomates. The problem with their status\nis that it can't help but taint the way we listen\nto their work. You have to make a conscious\neffort to listen with a fresh ear. That said, only\nHilton's High Priest is a surprise, being so\nunassuming and friendly it disassociates\nitself from his chaotic past. As for the other\n-who's that chap with the bullhorn? It's John\nLydon, unfortunately, and is he dour! As\nusual, he rants. Rants and rant and rants.\nThe kicker is that he provides no tangible,\nfactual, or coherent reason for why he's\nupset, no inspirational words to arm yourself\nwith while imbibing at the Rose & Thome\nacross the table from three or four beer-\nbolstered floor traders. Face it. Lydon's\nlyrics, while often quite clever, are dogmatic.\nHis music, although unavoidably intense, is\ntoo muddled to hold your attention. Worst of\nall, his \"dance-oriented\" rhythmns are so\nmechanical they won't seduce any body\nwho's not a slave to clubland volume and the\ngirl in the long black coat over there by the\npillar. No, the far pillar. What? Can't hear\nyou...sounds like he's using a bullhorn...hahaha...say, would you like to come\nhome and listen to my new Alex Chilton\nrecord...well, more mood music, actually...And\nthat is how Alex Chilton sounds in a\nhammock. It comes across as an acknowledgement of the music he made as a lad in\nMemphis, with horns quoting In the Midnight\nHour; limpid, liquid, Elmore James blues,\nshuffling, shambling instrumental, and so\non. It's not worth picking on, because it won't\nretaliate anyway. This record will not come\nout and play! And I admit, it's frustrating!!\nHappy?? Perhaps what Alex needs is house\nbully Lydon to come scratching at his screen\ndoor one evening like the ancient preacher\nin Poltergeist II (\"Time to die, Chilton...\"),\nhustle his ass out of the basement, and make\na blood pact to tour the local teen hops and\ngrad blowouts as the greatest garage band\nof all time. A meeting of minds. After all, isn't\nthat why groups are formed?\nMan Mountain Mike Dezell\nIMLG73\npresents\nAustralia's hottest\nnew band\nFRIDAY\nDECEMBER 11\n86 Street Music Hall\nDoors 7 pm \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 Guests 8 pm Sharp\nPseudo Echo 9-10:30 pm\nTickets: VTC/CBO & all usual outlets.\nCharge by phone 280-4444\nON SALE NOW\nProduced by Perryscope\n\ TopSpk\nFor your dance, get\nCiTR Mobile Sound\n228-3017 JOHN TRUDELL\nJESSE ED DAVIS\nAKA Graffiti Man\nHeart Jump Bouquet\nThe Peace Company\nThese two tape-only releases are from the\nAmerican Indian duo of poet John Trudell\nand guitarist Jesse Ed Davis. They're independent releases so you won't find them in\nthe stores which is truly unfortunate. This\nstuff really should be heard. As accompanied by Davis' Graffiti Band, Trudell's poetry\noffers one of the most cogent and philosophical views of American culture since Bob\nDylan in the '60s. 1986's AKA Graffiti Man,\nthe more political of the releases deals with\ncultural,, personal and economic themes.\nBaby Boom Che is an incisive piece of\ncultural criticism which credits Elvis for\nwaking up his generation, while Rich Man's\nWar dissects America's present problems\nand then offers a few possible solutions.\nHeart Jump Bouquet, released this year,\nfocuses exclusively on personal relationships with women. Trudell's romanticism is\npure and fresh without being therapeutic.\nThe Graffiti Band is stronger on this one,\neffectively complementing the poetry's nuance and accent. Keep your eyes open for\nthese two men. For more info write to: The\nPeace Company, 7095 Hollywood Blvd,\n#104-432, Hollywood, CA. 90028.\nMark Quail\n* M\njB!^^\n1\n.J^H^HL Jr\nf^k\nLOU\nReeo\nROCH\n'\nHi m\n^ n\n\u00C2\u00A5 R0LL\nAnimAL\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0\nwr .- ^a\u00C2\u00A3&&H\n.-;.-\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0\n:\u00E2\u0096\u00A0:-\u00E2\u0080\u00A2\u00E2\u0096\u00A0\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A04\nrfr5\n*\n* When the smack begins to flow\nThen I really don't care anymore\nAbout all you Jim-Jims in this town\nAnd everybody putting everybody else down\nAnd all the politicians making crazy sounds\nAnd all the dead bodies piled up in mounds\nStep\nBeyond\nimport posters \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 postcards\nt-shirts \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 and much more\n235 CAMBIE \u00E2\u0080\u0094 MEZZANINE LEVEL\n50 ft. south of Gastown Steamclock\nNUMB\nBlue Light\nBurning Records\nCan you say the grim side of modern?\nIndustrial grunge. The kerrang! of heavy\nsteel, the digital rhythms of machine intelli\ngence. But wait. There're melodies slinking\naround in the mix (hints of them anyway),\nand the odd human voice. Call it singing. The\nHanging Key in particular really goes places.\nFilm music which comes with the benefit of\nnot having any specific images tied to it\n(yet!). For what it's worth, the slower, more\nexpansive arrangements do more for me\nthan the upbeat neo-danceable parts, though\ngiven a live situation, I might reverse that\nstatement. And these guys do play live. And\nthey're local. Support them. Be entertained.\nVancouver can be more than just rock'n'roll\nheaven. Cassette Only. Burning Records.\n#606-1021 Harwood Street, Vancouver B.C.\nV6E 3N3.\nBill Mullan\nLAST EXIT\nThe Noise of Trouble/\nLive in Tokyo\nEnemy Records\nJaco Pastorius (R.I.P.) once coined the term\n\"Punk Jazz\" which would seem quite apropos for Last Exit's Music. Angry, loud and\nquite often at a frantic pace, these avant\ngarde improvisers - bassist Bill Laswell,\nguitarist Sonny Sharrock, bass saxophonist\nPeter Brotzman, and drummer/vocalist Ronald\nShannon Jackson - get together to kick,\nbeat, scream and wail up a wall of sonic\ntrouble to please most free jazz/noise fans.\nWhen it works, it's a kick to the head. When\nis doesn't though, it's simply in trouble. Live\nIn Tokyo hits sometimes, misses others, but\nit's still very much worth the listen. Better\nyet, check out last year's self-titled debut.\nPaul Clarke\nRUDY SCHWARTZ\nPROJECT\nBowling for Appliances\nRemember Lynyrd Skynyrd? Joe Newman\nof the Rudy Schwartz Project does, and\non this latest cassette he transcends the\nbounds of 'good taste' and exhumes the\nbodies for public display. The band responsible for classics such as People Are Scum\nand Xmas Time's for Assholes has again\nproven that Austin is NOT a hotbed of\nsappy-assed guitar (True Believers) and/or\ndemented drug-crazed cross-dressers (Buttholes), but in fact, the centre of a storm of\npolitical and moral awareness that spreads\nits message via humour and musical experimentation. Sacrosanct institutions and personalities of our TV culture are targets for\nRSP's sarcastic polkas, raps, and rock.\nCheck out this unique tape if you still have a\nsense of humour and appreciate the cultural\ncontributions of Ernest Borgnine. Contact:\nJoe Newman, 5404 Ave. F, Austin, Texas\n78751.\nTravis B\n22 DISCORDER DAVID SYLVIAN\nSecrets of the Beehive\nBuzz, buzz, buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. If your\ncopy of Brilliant Trees (1984)is scratched\nor stolen, you can replace it with this one.\nThere is absolutely no difference, no progress, no change. The last three years\nhaven't mellowed Sylvian\u00E2\u0080\u0094they've atrophied\nhim. How did all the innovative and creative\npeople involved in the creation of this record\nmanage to stay awake long enough to see\nit through to its completion? The bees to\nwhich the title refers must all have been\ndrones.\nLarry Thiessen\nYUNG WU\nShore Leave\nSure, somebody with a grease pencil has\ntagged this as neoREMist, but actually these\nare the fabled quiet tracks from Eno's Here\nComes the Winnipeg Jets session. Eno\n(which, incidentally, is an anagram for God)\nhad a bad throat that day so they got the guy\nwho swept out the studio at night (someone\nthinks his name was Jim the Lude Ranger)\nto do vocals. Of course they had to oblige\nOl' Jim with Stones and Neil Young covers,\nand then Eno walked out, and then legal\nproceedings ensued.... Anyway, thirteen\nyears later it hits the street in completely\nbogus packaging that makes it look like a\nWang Chung record, but it isn't. Trust me.\nIt's REM, er, I mean Eno. No shit.\nJB Hohm\nKING'S HOUSE\nA Tribute to Gordon Jenkins\nYour parents and grandparents probably\nused to listen to Gordon Jenkins. King's\nHouse has just released its tribute to this\npopular American composer. Of course, this\nis the '80s and things are different. Be\nprepared to endure about sixty minutes of\nanalog record skips, samples, static, and\nturntable torture. A great tape suitable for\nalienating just about everyone. For similar\neffect, cut asymmetrical radiating grooves\nin your new U2 record and put it on the worst\nturntable you can find. The CIA is reportedly\nusing this cassette to extract confessions\nfrom Libyan tourists. Contact: Subelecktrick\nInstitute, 475 21st Ave., San Francisco,\nCalifornia 94121.\nTravis B\nRADIO OBJECT\nRadio Objeckt exists for the sole purpose\nof exposing people to all that is new and\nexciting in the world of music. Perhaps the\nbest radio show of its kind, it presents\nalternative artists in a format that accentuates the viability of creativity. The show is\nbroadcast on independent radio stations in\nNorth America and Europe, and is available\non cassette. For listeners who are genuinely\ncurious about what's happening, Radio\nObjeckt is the ultimate sample of experimental labels and musical styles. Contact: P.O.\nBox 967, Eureka, California 95502.\nTravis B\n^1 II < Ifc\nm I * * THEATRE * * \u00E2\u0096\u00A0 R-\nTop Spin.\nFor your dance, get\nCiTR Mobile Sound\n228-3017\nDECEMBER 1987 23 YOUR PART IN THE EVIL\nONES' PLAN\n0\u00C2\u00BBQ-\u00C2\u00BBO'<>\nThe true symbol of The Conspiracy (called by\nsome The llluminati, which is actually but one\nimportant sect) is not the Eye-ln-the-Pyramid\u00E2\u0080\u0094for\nthat is the spmbol of the Elder Gods\u00E2\u0080\u0094but the\nlittle-seen red emblem of a PLASTIC SPOON,\nFORK, AND KNIFE partially crossed in an ill\ntravesty of the Christian Cross death-sign. The\nreason for this stupid logo: PLASTIC because that\nis the nature of it all, the EATING UTENSILS\nbecause they ear\" us They are cannibals\u00E2\u0080\u0094not\nso much in the sense of devouring human flesh,\nfor they do that only on special occasions, but\nin the sense that they consume our energy.\nMERRY CHRISTMAS\nFROM LEGENDS\nPast and Present\nResale Clothing\nfor men and women\njewelry, shoes, hats\nCollectable toys\n875-0621\n4366 Main St. @ 28th\nMain Street's only consignment store.\nTOP AIRPLAY ALBUMS\nARTIST\nTITLE\nLABEL\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Mark Stewart & Maffia\nThis Is Stranger Than Love\nMute\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Smiths\nStrangeways, Here We Come\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A254-40\nShow Me\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Dukes of Stratosphear\nPsonic Psunspot Virgin\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Cabaret Voltaire\nCode\nCapitol\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Jah Wobble\nIsland Paradise\nWOB\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Marrs\nPump Up the Volume\n4AD\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Hank Williams\nLovesick Blues\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Godley & Creme\nSnack Attack\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Public Image Ltd.\nHappy?\nVirgin\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Big Black\nSongs About Fucking\nBlast First\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Chris and Cosey\nExotika\nNettwerk\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Ramones\nHalfway to Sanity\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Alien Sex Fiend\nHere Cum Germs\nPlague/Anagram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Tom Waits\nFrank's Wild Years\nIsland\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Pussy Galore\nRight Now!\nProduct Inc.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2R.E.M.\nDocument No. 5\nI.R.S.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Meredith Monk\nDo You Be\nECM\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Sun City Girls\nHorse Cock Phepner\nPlacebo\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2DAF\nThe Gun\nBMG\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Rare Air\nHard to Beat\nGreen Linnet\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Faith No More\nChinese Arithmetic\nSlash\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Bo Deans\nOutside Looking In\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Alex Chilton\nHigh Priest\nNew Rose\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Various Artists\nProject One Produkt Corps\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Cabaret Voltaire\nHere To Go\nCapitol\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Ice T\nRhyme Pays\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Lime Spiders\nThe Cave Comes Alive\nVirgin\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Echo & The Bunnymen\nEcho & The Bunnymen\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Najma\nQareeb Triple Earth\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Ministry\nHalloween Remix\nWax Trax!\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Cannon Heath Down\nHeart Throb Companion\nBongo Sunrise\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Redd Kross\nNeurotika\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Bob's Your Uncle\nBob's Your Uncle\nCriminal\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2That Petrol Emotion\nBabble\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Dub Syndicate\nNight Train Contempo\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Foetus All-Nude Revue\nBedrock\nSome Bizarre\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Skin\nGirl: Come Out\nProduct Inc.\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Sonny Sharrock\nGuitar\nEnemy\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Various Artists\nPotatoes\nRalph\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Einsturzende Neubauten\nFuenf Auf Der Nach...\nTorso\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Age of Chance\nOne Thousand Years...\nVirgin\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Various Artists\nGeyser Enigma\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Guadalcanal Diary\n2x4\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Skinny Puppy\nCleanse, Fold and Manipulate\nNettwerk/Capitol\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Love and Rockets\nEarth Sun Moon\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Go-Betweens\nTallulah\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Art of Noise\nIn No Sense? Nonsense!\nMCA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Zodiac Mindwarp\nHigh Priest of Love\nPolygram\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Throwing Muses\nThe Fat Skier\nWEA\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Dead Milkmen\nBucky Fellini Enigma\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Bleached Black\nBleached Black\nRelativity\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Motorhead\nRock'n'Roll\nA&M\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Bodines\nPlayed\nBMG UK\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Criminal Element Orchestra\nPut the Needle...\nCooltempo\n\u00E2\u0080\u00A2Single Gun Theory\nExorcise This Wasteland\n?????\n24 DISCORDER 46 MWh\nT SHIRTS FOR A\nIVIQPERIM WORLD\nCHRISTMAS SALE\nDECEMBER 1987 25 OnTheDial\nTUESDAYS\nWEEKDAY HIGHLIGHTS\nMONDAYS\nRANDOM DESIGNS\n7:30-10:00 am\n\"Can you catch exploding bunnies from hell?\nWhat do you do with them once you catch them?\nDo you care?\" A show for apathetic fur-bearing\nhumanoids. Join Melissa for your weekly dose\nof superficiality.\nSOUP OF THE DAY\n11:00 am-1:00 pm\nOne can never be sure of what's a-stirring in the\npot of 'Captain K\u00E2\u0080\u0094but if you're daring enough\nto partake, you might find it quite palatable\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nand if not, the Captain doesn't adhere strictly to\nthe \"too many kooks\" theory. ...Head Kook: Kevin\nWilliams\u00E2\u0080\u0094and sometimes specially imported\nchef from Kimberly, Lupus Yonderboy.\nDOGS BREAKFAST\n1:00-3:00 pm\nEach time you open the box something different\ncomes out. Could be Jazz, hardcore, country,\nmetal, rare oldies or even schlock. Your guess\nis as good as mine! Frank Sivertz hosts.\nCRAPSHOOT\n5:30-6:00 pm\nMORE DINOSAURS\n8:00-9:00 pm\nTHE JAZZ SHOW\n9:00-12:30 am\nVancouver's longest-running prime time Jazz\nprogram, featuring all the classic players, the\noccasional interview, and local music news.\nHosted by the ever-suave Gavin Walker.\n07 Dec. \"Renaissance\" is the title of Branford\nMarsalis' latest. Wynton's older (by\none year) brother does his best record so far.\nWith Kenny Kirkland, Herbie Hancock (acoustic\npiano), Tony Williams (drums) and others. A fine\nshowcase for Branford's talent on soprano and\ntenor saxophones.\n14 Dec. \"The Gerry Mulligan Quartet in Paris.\"\nOne of the most popular groups of the\nfifties with Mulligan (baritone saxophone) and\nBob Brookmeyer (valve trombone) play at their\nmost inspired...before a huge French audience.\n21 Dec. \"To Bird With Love\" a great tribute to\nCharlie Parker by a relatively young\nman who has taken a long-neglected horn in\nJazz...the clarinet, and turned it into his unique\nvoice. THE answer to \"What happened to the\nclarinet?\"...Eddie Daniels...recorded in 1987.\n27 Dec. The late Red Garland, although not an\ninnovator in jazz, was one of its leading\npiano stylists. Red's music is the perfect antidote\nfor post-Christmas blues (or blahs). Mr. \"Bright\nand Breezy\" wends his way through standards\nand blues from various albums With Paul Chambers (bass) and Art Taylor (drums.)\nENVIRONMENTAL SCATOLOGY\n12:30-4:00 am\nEver tasted blood?... Ever run your hand through\nwarm guts?... Well I have... don't feel like nothin.'\n26 DISCORDER\nPEST CONTROL\n11:00-1:00 pm\nWelcome to the Roach Motel. I'm Jerome Broadway, the caretaker. Don't mind those ugly, multi-\nlegged hairy creatures crawling up your leg.\nThey're just Mother's pests. Igor! Crank up the\nmusic!\nBLOOD ON THE SADDLE\n1:00-3:00 pm\nEvery Tuesday, music to scrape the cowshit off\nyour boots to.\nTHE ORAL DAVE RADIO SHOW\n3:00-5:00 pm\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094There are no quick and easy answers\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nRECTAL RECTITUDE ?\n5:30-8:00 pm\nMy limp body was covered with the excrement\nof a thousands dogs\u00E2\u0080\u0094my brain had been soaked in the urine from 100 pus-infested penises\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nmy toenails had been peeled off and paint stripper brushed on the naked flesh\u00E2\u0080\u0094my nostrils had\nbeen stuffed with decaying flesh\u00E2\u0080\u0094my ears had\nbeen plugged with the sounds of screeching\npigs\u00E2\u0080\u0094at last I had become an American\u00E2\u0080\u0094true,\nstrong and FREE.\nSTUFF\n8:00-9:30 pm\nJulia and Lisa do a show called Stuff. It's poetry\nwith a post-modern bent.\nAURAL TENTACLES\nMidnight-4:00 am\nWEDNESDAYS\nTHE CLASSICAL SHOW\n7:30-10:00 am\nA variety of musical styles ranging from the early Medieval to the 20th Century. All styles will be\ndiscussed with historical importance. Requests\ntaken. Hosted by Wolfgang J. Ehebald.\n*PAULA TAKES LIBERTIES\n1:00-5:00 pm\nIt's the middle of the day\u00E2\u0080\u0094you wish it was midnight\u00E2\u0080\u0094you wish you were high\u00E2\u0080\u0094well, so do I.\nTHE LION'S DEN\n5:15-5:30 pm\nNeil Davis will interview players, coaches and\nspecial guests on The Lion's Den. There will also\nbe a trivia contest, the prizes being gift certificates for the Fogg 'n Suds Restaurant.\nTHE AFRICAN SHOW\n8:00-9:30 pm\nThe latest in modern African dance music plus/\nminus a few oldie but greats and extras. Your way\nwe come every Wednesday at 8:00. Information\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094News as they come at 8:30 pm. Possible\nspecial features at 9:00. Your host: Umerah P.\nOnukwulu. Welcome. ,\nARE YOU TALKING TO ME?\nMidnight-4:00 am\nSick and tired of all this punk, new wave, underground bullshit? Elevator music is where it's at...\nTravis B. lights up your life and plays the best\nMontovani and Muzak.\nTHURSDAYS\nANOTHER KIND OF WEDNESDAY\n7:30-10:00 am\nEver feel like you've slept-in 24 hours too long?\nMaybe this Killpigge fellow inhabits his own time\nzone, or universe for that matter.\nFINE LINES\n10:00-11:00 am\nSTACY'S SHOW\n1:00-3:00 pm\nWhat will happen will happen!\nGREEK WEEKLY REPORT\n5:15-5:30 pm\nBrothers Pi, Gamma and Delta will be bringing\nyou all the information on what is happening inside the Greek Society at UBC. Everything from\nsports & social information to the Greek tune of\nthe week, as well as the Greek personal columns\nwill be heard each week.\nTHE VINYL FRONTIER\n5:30-8:00 pm\nThe Spinlist will never be the same again! Tune\nin. Turn on. Drop out.\nTHE CAN-CON JOB\n9:00-11:00 pm\nTwo hours of current Canadian acts with a marked propensity to play local bands. Hosted by\nDeded the Dedhed.\nEXHIBITIONISM\nMidnight-3:30 am\n\"Sarcasm is the root of all evil.\"\n(Langley Strood)\nCampus Stylus: Matt Richards.\nFRIDAYS\nFRIDAY MORNING MAGAZINE\n7:30-10:30 am\nThe re-emergence of New Souls. Sacred Dates,\nTimes, Points in History. Overthrowing history.\nPlus what's going on in Vancouver.\n04 Dec. Newerks and the context of Grace-\nland: Time, Space, Energy. Profile:\nThe making of a Ballet with the Royal Winnipeg\nBallet (The Nutcracker). Plus: New Folk music,\nCity calendar.\n11 Dec. Focus on AIDS: interview with Bob\nTivey and others involved.\nRita McNeill \u00E2\u0080\u0094 music.\n18 Dec. Christmas Theatre Profile.\n25 Dec. Celebrating both Dark and Light; a\nfocus on significant events of 1987,\nand looking forward to 1988.\nTRIBES AND SHADOWS\n10:30-11:30 am\nA program that explores \"New Consciousness.\"\nDreams, myths, cultures and rituals all take context, bridging the gap between Dark and Light.\nFeaturing the innovative, the eclectic and the stirring diversities inherent in the musical fabric of\nour world. Hosted by Kirby Hill.\n04 Dec. Yet to come.\n11 Dec. An introduction to Ron Blake's \"Third\nStream Music.\"\n18 Dec. Touchstone Theatre is interpreting the\nwork of Bertolt Brecht. So will we.\n25 Dec. Christmas tales from Windham Hill. emu\n7:30\n8:00\n9:00\n10:00\n11:00\n12:00\n1:00\n2:00\n3:00\n4:00\n5:00\n6:00\n7:00\n8:00\n9:00\n10:00\n11:00\n12:00\n1:00\n2:00\n3:00 -\n4:00\nMONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAY THURSDAY FRIDAY\nNEWS. SPORTS. WEATHER GENERIC REVIEW. INSIGHT\nRANDOM\nDESIGNS\nSOUP OF\nTHE DAY\nTHE\nJENNIFER CHAN\nSHOW\nPEST\nCONTROL\nTHE\nCLASSICAL\nSHOW\nTNT COMEDY SHOW\nANOTHER KIND\nOF WEDNESDAY\nFINE LINES\nFRIDAY\nMORNING\nMAGAZINE\nTRIBES AND\nSHADOWS\nJoanna Graystone\nDOG'S\nBREAKFAST\n\^\nCITR NEWS, SPORTS, WEATHER\nBLOOD ON\nTHE SADDLE\nORAL\nDAVE\nTHE\nRT.L\nSHOW*\nSTACEYS\nSHOW\nPARTY WITH\nME, PIERRE\n& JACQUES!\nEXPO '66\nNARDWUAR\nPeter\nCourtemanche\nNEWS, SPORTS, WEATHER GENERIC REVIEW, INSIGHT, DAILY FEATURE\nWAYNE COX'S\nBRAIN\nMORE\nDINOSAURS\nTHE\nJAZZ\nSHOW\nENVIRONMENTAL\nSCATOLOGY\nRECTAL\nRECTITUDE\nSTUFF\nJUST\nSAY NO!\nAURAL\nTENTACLES\nKATHY DAY\nTHE\nAFRICAN\nSHOW\nPERMANENT\nCULTURE\nSHOCK\nTHE\nVINYL FRONTIER\nTOP OF\nTHE BOPS\nTHE\nCAN-CON\nJOB\nMEL BREWER\nPRESENTS\nEXHIBITIONISM\nCRAPSHOOT\nINTERFERENCE\nCRACK\nRHYTHM\nLOUIS\nLOUIS\nWEEKDAY REPORTS\nSATURDAY REPORTS\n8:00\n10:00\n1:00\n3:00\n5:00\nMAJOR NEWS/SPORTS\nNEWSBRIEF\nNEWSBREAK\nNEWSBRIEF\nMAJOR NEWS/SPORTS\nNoon\n6:00\nMAJOR NEWS/SPORTS\nSATURDAY EVENING\nMAGAZINE\nFM102\nSATURDAY SUNDAY\nTHE\nSATURDAY\nEDGE\nPOWER\nCHORD\nWE BE\nBOTANISTS\nSAT. MAGAZINE\nTHE\nMEAN\nTIME\nNOCTURNES\nTUNES\nUS\nMUSIC\nOF\nOUR\nTIME\nTHE\nROCKERS\nSHOW\nBLUES CITY\nSHAKE DOWN\n\&\nSUNDAY MAG.\nTWW.S.I.\nJUST LIKE\nWOMEN/\nELECTRONIC\nSMOKE SIGNALS\nPLAYLOUD/\nTHIS IS\nNOT A TEST\nUFE\nAFTER\nBED\nFLOYD'S\nCORNER\nSUNDAY REPORTS\n10:00 VAN. NEW MUSIC CALENDAR\nNoon NEWS\n6:00 SUNDAY MAGAZINE\n6:30 THE WAY WE SEE IT EXPO '66\n1:00-2:30 pm\nMIDTOWN (UPI)\u00E2\u0080\u0094Expo '66 Chairman Dean Paul\nKennedy announced a concrete opening date for\nthe world's fair. \"We're right on track, everything\nis go-ahead for opening day, January 1 at 1:00\np.m.\" Kennedy, son of entertainer/politician Dean\nKennedy, is also host of the CITR radio pavillion.\n\"Until the first, stay tuned Fridays at 1:00 for updates. This will be one kick-ass world's fair,\"\nadded the young swinger.\nNARDWUAR THE HUMAN\nSERVIETTE PRESENTS...\n2:30-3:00 pm\nAmelia Earhart disappeared 50 years ago. 1988\napproaches rapidly, but wil she return in December of 1987? Will her navigator, Fred Noonan,\nalso return from obscurity? Only you will be able\nto determine these puzzling questions: Nardwuar\nand Cleopatra von Flufflestein have become too\nexausted in their search for Amelia. It's up to your\ningenuity to save Amelia. Please help her!!\n78 Dec. What would have been Amelia's 90th\nbirthday. Share this day with Amelia\nand Nardwuar.\n25 Dec. Continue your search for Amelia,\nwhile listening to her favourite bands,\nThe Sonics, Wailers and Galaxies, sing Christmas Carols.\nTHE WAY WE SEE IT\n5:30-6:00 pm\nJoin the CITR News Staff as they discuss a week\nof events and issues, causes and consequences.\nLearn all there is to know about a world of happenings, as each reporter gives story details and\ndiscusses its implications.\nINTERFERENCE\n6:00-9:00 pm\nMozart was a Freemason.\nCRACK RHYTHM\n9:00-midnight\nA large, messy, enigmatically entertaining eve-\ning program, highlighting the hefty sounds of\nexotic beats and the malicious chunk of modern\nfunk, with constant and current info on the Vancouver alternative music scene supplied by those\nwho should know. Hastily hosted by Robert Shea.\nLOUIS LOUIS\nMidnight-4 am\n60 minute sets\u00E2\u0080\u0094no requests\u00E2\u0080\u0094no apologies.\nWEEKEND HIGHLIGHTS\nSATURDAYS\nTHE SATURDAY EDGE\n8:00 am-noon\nWinter draws on (you're going to need them!) and\nhost Steve Edge continues to present the best\nin acoustic/roots/folk music on CITR. This is the\ntime of year to reflect on the events of the last\n12 months, so there will be lots of highlights of\n1987, featuring exclusive live concert footage from\ngigs at the Rogue Folk Club/Savoy, as well as\na personal selection of the year's best albums.\nThe biggest event in December, of course, is\nthe visit of The Pogues. They are the principal\nreason for this show ever starting at all, and now\nat long last, they'll be at The Commodore for the\nbiggest show of the year/decade.\nScheduled features include classic British\ncomedy from \"Beyond the Fringe,\" the Cambridge Footlights Show which led to all the major\ncult comedy shows in the old country (around\n9 a.m. every week), the Compleat Monty Python\nTV shows (serialized at 11:45), The Edge on Soccer at 11:30, with all the latest scores, scorers and\nmatch reports from England and Scotland, and\nThe Edge on Folk's weekly feature at 10:00. This\nmonth:\n05 Dec. Features four concert previews: Prairie\nOyster, Washington Squares, Stephen\nFearing, and The Pogues.\n12 Dec. Valdy is back in town, so what's he\nbeen up to?\n79 Dec. The Annual Christmas Show. Get The\nEdge on...\n26 Dec. The best of 1987. The Edge's Top 20.\nPOWER CHORD\nNoon-3:00 pm\nVancouver's only true metal show, featuring the\nunderground alternative to mainstream metal:\nlocal demo tapes, imports and other rarities, plus\nalbum give-aways.\nWE BE BOTANISTS\n3:00-6:00 pm\nThere are certain hazards in having knowledge\nof taxonomic identification of mushrooms: \"I\nnever met a Psilocybe I didn't like. Or consume,\nfor that matter. Uh, could someone help get all\nthese spiders off me?\"\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094Botanist Grant just prior to treatment.\nSATURDAY EVENING MAGAZINE\n6:00-6:30 pm\nFeaturing news, sports, weather, Insight, Generic\nReview, Today in History, Across the Atlantic.\nTHE MEAN TIME flight\n6:30-9:00 pm (sometimes)\nyour step, between guano, to please, music\nof the birds, Watch Paul Funk dodge presents\nwhich UBC Lodged by the Thunder paths\nNOCTURNES\nApprox. 10:15-midnight (after UBC Sports\nBroadcasts) \u00E2\u0080\u0094 otherwise 9:00 pm-midnight\n\"Anyone with even the briefest exposure to today's commercial music industry can't escape\nthe realization that this is an area which has been\ncompletely subverted by Satan...\"\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094Jimmy Swaggart, Music: The New Pornography 1:3\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094Zealous Stylus: Paul C.\nTUNES 'R' US\nMidnight-4:00 am\nSUNDAYS\nMUSIC OF OUR TIME\n8:00-Noon\nModern 20th Century classical music ranging\nfrom the tonal to the avant-garde. Commentary\non the historical, technical and latest fashions\nwith regards to all genres. Requests taken. Your\nhost, Wolfgang J. Ehebald.\nTHE ROCKERS SHOW\nNoon-3:00 pm\nReggae, Rock Steady and Ska. At 1:30, Reggae\nBeat International Hour: news and interviews\nabout Reggae music worldwide. Host: George\nBarrett.\nROCKIN' RELIGION\n3:00-3:30 pm\nPreachin' Blues, Gospel Rock, Religious R'n'B,\nJesus Rock and the Devil's music too. With your\nhosts, Lochlan Murray and Reverend Rob.\nBLUES CITY SHAKEDOWN\n3:30-5:00 pm\nDelta Blues, Post War Urban Blues, Boogie\nBlues, Honky Tonk Blues, Rockabilly Blues,\nPsychedelic Blues, Blues Rock, Punk Blues &\neven that laid-back Contemporary Blues shit.\nHosted by Robert Zepeski or Lochlan Murray.\n20 Dec. \"It hurts me too,\" with Rob Z. Elmore\nJames & the Slide Guitar.\n27 Dec. Beware of the Dog, with Rob Z. Theodore Roosevelt Taylor AKA Hound\nDog Taylor.\nSOUL CITY (SOUL GALORE)\n5:00-6:00 pm\nWith your hosts Rob Z. or Lochlan Murray.\n06 Dec. Atlantic, Motown & Philly International, with Lochlan Murray.\n13 Dec. James (Mr. Soul) Brown, with Lochlan\nMurray.\n20 Dec. Ben E. King, with Rob Z.\n27 Dec. Otis Redding, with Rob Z.\nJUST LIKE WOMEN/\nELECTRONIC SMOKE SIGNALS\n6:30-9:00 pm\n06 Dec. ELECTRONIC SMOKE SIGNALS:\nSpecial feature on indigenous peoples in the Soviet Union\u00E2\u0080\u0094self-determination or\ngenocide? Special update on Chernobyl and the\nSoviet nuclear industry.\n13 Dec. JUST LIKE WOMEN: Tune in for invigorating and stimulating interviews,\nnews and music for anyone interested in women's\nissues or learning more about them.\n20 Dec. ELECTRONIC SMOKE SIGNALS:\nJoin us as we recover the great pagan\ntradition of celebrating the winter solstice and the\nimminent return of the sun.\n27 Dec. JUST LIKE WOMEN: Interviews,\nnews and music on, by and for\nwomen.\nPLAYLOUD/THIS IS NOT A TEST\n9:00 pm-Midnight\n\"The void beyond the planes where chaos reigns\nand form abideth not.\" Abdul Alhazred\nAural surgery performed by Larry Thiessen.\nFLOYD'S CORNER\n2:00 am-Until Jeff fades...\nJeff G. pulls the cowshit from his boots and slings\nit on the turntable every Sunday night for all you\nfunny-walking, shit-disturbing, cattle-riding winos.\nSPORTS PROGRAM NOTES\nThe Lion's Den \u00E2\u0080\u0094 Wed. 5:15 pm\nHosted by Neil Davis. Includes interviews and a\ntrivia contest with prizes.\nThe Edge on Soccer - Sat. 11:30 am.\nBritish soccer results and exclusive reports on\nVancouver's 86ers and the new Canadian Soccer\nLeague. Hosted by Steve Edge.\n28 DISCORDER H&tiflti?\n\"I had nothing to offer but my confusion.\"\n(Jack Kerouac)\nConfusion really isn't such a bad\nstate. You're not alone, you've\nbeen there before and enlightenment could be just around the\ncorner. Confusion is universal. Don't be\ndeceived. Unless he's some kind of deistic\nspace alien in human form, anybody who\ntells you otherwise is full of shit. Even if he\nis a deistic space alien, he's still probably\nfull of shit. Unless he is God. Hmmmm?\n\"This alien has come from many planets, but\non this planet we call Earth, the alien\nbecomes divided. All of us here on earth\nhave created this planet ourselves from our\nown minds and we hold it together only\nbecause we still desire to experience its\nopposing extremes. When we have finished\nwith it, it is said that Planet Earth will become\na sun with its own solar system. Until then,\nthere is one main condition to all of our daily\nlives: that we should not remember why we\nare really here.\" (Daevid Allen)\nOne of the principal benefits of confusion\nis the inspiration it offers. It's the way we\nwork (humankind). Throw us an apparent\npuzzle and we'll try to put it together into\nsome kind of whole. It's the nature of\nsurrealism. Stick a melting clock in the\nmiddle of an empty plain, and the brain is\nchallenged to come up with some kind of\nlogical response to what is clearly not a\nlogical image. Clocks don't melt, and what's\nthe empty plain got to do with anything?\n'Why, lots actually. It could be symbolic of\ninternal emptiness, The Void, alienation.'\nAnd clocks melting?: That could be Einstein's theory of relativity. Couldn't it?'\nLife is surreal. Absurd combinations pop\nup everywhere you allow yourself to look.\nSometimes they're pleasant, like BC Place\n(there's a huge alien spaceship in the middle\nof this city, and nobody seems the least bit\nconcerned). Sometimes they're painful, violent, insane. Like war.\n\"Man is and always has been a maker of\ngods. It has been the most serious and\nsignificant occupation of his sojourn in the\nworld.\" (John Burroughs)\nLife, reality, the big IT. Look at it like you're\na passenger on an airplane flying crosscountry at night. Sure there's a lot of people\ndown there\u00E2\u0080\u0094say, one for each light you\nsee\u00E2\u0080\u0094but look again. Those lights are just\npin-points, occasionally clusters. The only\nthing that's really abundant is the blackness,\nthe emptiness, the essential.... Is it any\nwonder we need a god or two?\n\"We owe our existence to random collisions\nand explosions which happened many billions of years ago.\" (Carl Sagan)\n\"The belief in coincidence is the prevalent\nsuperstition of the modern age of science.\"\n(?)\nAtheism is just another belief. The belief\nthat there is no God, no immortality. Life just\nis. You're born, you do some stuff, and then\nyou die. CLICK. The light goes out. No\nmemory. Nothing.\n\"If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him\nas less of an insult than religion.\" (Goncourt)\nAh, yes. Religion. A specific system of\nbelief or worship etc., built around God, a\ncode of ethics, a philosophy of life, etc.\n(thanks, Webster). Serious business. Big\nBusiness. Huge topic. Whose idea was it to\ndo this anyway? This is a music magazine. I\nspent ten years of my life (ages five through\nfifteen) going to Church every Sunday.\nCatholic Church. God's place. He ran it with\nhis son, Jesus, and some third nebulous\npresence known only as The Holy Spirit. Or\nso they said. Personally, I was always\ndubious. Not because the Jesuits beat or\nraped me (I went to secular Public School).\nNor because of the hypocrisy, the pretense,\nthe obvious paganism, the centuries of\nplunder and inquisition (I was too young to\nreally care). No, it was just dull. BORING!!!\nIf there was a God, and I was pretty sure\nthere was (my parents loved me, I was\nhealthy), He certainly didn't want me to be\nbored. Not on his account. Bored to death.\nBored! Bored! Bored! I kept on hoping some\nterrorists would bust in and take us all\nhostage, or the Church would catch fire, or\na plane would crash into it.\n\"It is the test of a good religion whether you\ncan joke about it.\" (Gilbert K Chesterton)\n\"The total absence of humour form the Bible\nis one of the most singular things in literature.\" (Alfred North Whitehead)\nIt's not that I deny the existence of Christ\nor even necessarily His alleged divinity.\nSomething significant did happen two thousand years ago. If you have any faith at all\nin history, you have to believe that. What I\nwonder about is that Book He theoretically\nleft behind. Who wrote the Bible anyway?\nWho were Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?\nWhat clubs did they belong XolWho edited\nthe Bible? What happened to the Gospel\naccording to Mary Magdalene? Who is The\nWidow's Son? Isn't Santa an anagram for\nSatan? Why is U2 so HUGE? How is it that\nsome guy who wears a funny pointed hat\ncan be closer to God than me? And it's not\njust Christianity either\u00E2\u0080\u0094I just know it best.\nShow me a religion and I'll show you big\nholes, ask bigger questions.\n\"God is always and everywhere.\" (?)\nWhat if there is a God, and he's a prick,\na sadist; heaven's a con, a scam, a big joke?\nOr what if heaven is nirvana? The righteous\ngo there when they die and it's beautiful and\nit's wonderful and it never ends? What\nhappens after? Aren't we all agnostics? Is\nthere anyone who never acts out of faith, out\nof the belief (perhaps unconscious) that his\ncurrent selfless sacrifice will somehow pay\noff big in the long term? Likewise, is there\nanyone who never makes a selfish, cowardly,\nultimately faithless decision? Just because\nyou believe something, believe it to the very\nsoul of your being, that doesn't make it true.\nNo, the truth is out there somewhere, in the\ndarkness, in the light, blowing in the wind.\n\"There are no nouns on this planet.\" (R.\nBuckminster Fuller)\nSo what's the point? There is no point. This\nis not a sermon. Or is it? I wish I knew. God\nis an overwhelming responsibility. Don't lay\nit on anybody. You'll drive them insane. And\nthat includes yourself. If He/She/They/It exist,\nthe contact's going to come from inside you.\nWho needs a church for that? (This is a\nsermon!)\nHappy Kringle. Peace on Earth. CITR\nLoves you. Slack off!\nThe Editor\na life size comedy by DAVID KING\nstarring\nNICOLA CAVENDISH & DAVID KING\nVancouver East LIMITED\nCultural Centre ENGAGEMENT\n1895 Venables Dec. 2-19 ONLY! ^\nReservations , rlj CTON *\n254-9578 -^CH\u00C2\u00A7>b^\nxovQ&m used ik old:\nmmm\n*t&s West. 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