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" Wfcs\n\u00C2\u00A5tVv>^\n?*CI\n\ DiSfcORDER\nA Guide tO CITR fm 102 cable 100 AUGUST 1985 \u00E2\u0080\u00A2 VOL. 3 NO. 7\nIn This Issue\nMutabaruka\nJill Rennie and Bruce Turpin talk\nto dub poetry's Medicine Man\nSpot the Difference\nKawika talks to L.A.'s eclectic Tupelo Chain Sex\nIn Every Issue\nAirhead\nMusings from the mail bag\nBehind the Dial\nInside the mysterious cargo cult of CITR\nProgram Guide\nHow to listen to the radio\u00E2\u0080\u0094in three easy lessons\nVinyl Verdict\nBig Black Things with little holes in them\nSingles\nInto the world of the 7\"\nRoving Ear\nBev Demchuck gets a tan in the Bahamas\nTupelo Chain Sex\nCover: Jim Main\nEditor\nChris Dafoe\nContributors\nBev Demchuck, Steve Edge, Steve Robertson\nMark Mushet, Rob Simms, Jason Grant\nJill Rennie, Bruce Turpin,\nDavid Firman Mike Dennis\nPhotos\nJim Main, Jill Rennie, Bruce Turpin\nCartoons\nR. Fi I brant, Susan Catherine,\nChris Pearson\nProduction Manager\nPatrick Carroll\nDesign\nHarry Hertscheg\nLayout\nPatrick Carroll, Chris Dafoe,\nJim Main, Randy Iwata\nProgram Guide\nJan is MacKenzie\nTypesetting\nDena Corby\nAdvertising and Circulation\nHarry Hertscheg 228-3017\nDISCORDER, c/o CITR Radio, 6138 SUB Blvd.,\n' Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A5. Phone (604) 228-3017.\nDISCORDER, a guide to CITR, is published monthly by the\nStudent Radio Society of UBC. CITR fm 101.9 cable 100.1\nbroadcasts a 49-watt signal in stereo throughout Vancouver\nfrom Gage Towers on the UBC campus. CITR is also available\nvia cable in Vancouver, West Vancouver, North Vancouver,\nBurnaby, Richmond, Coquitlam, Port Coquitlam, Port Moody,\nMaple Ridge and Mission. DISCORDER circulates 12,000 free\ncopies. To advertise in DISCORDER or to have copies dropped\noff call 228-3017. Yearly subscriptions available in Canada,\n$9.00, outside Canada, $12.00. Send cheque or money order\npayable to DISCORDER. Unsolicited manuscripts, photographs, cartoons and graphics are welcome but they can be\nreturned only if accompanied by a self-addressed, stamped\nenvelope. DISCORDER does not assume responsibility for unsolicited material. DISCORDER and CITR offices are located\nin Room 233 of the UBC Student Union Building. For CITR\nMobile Sound bookings and general inquiries call 228-3017.\nThe Music Request line is 228 CITR. A bad haircut can wipe\nthe smile off anybody's\nface. DISCORDER A Guide to CITR fm 102 cable 100\nAugust 1985\nSnips and Snails and\nPuppy Dog Tails...\nDear Airhead:\nYou are correct to demand substantiated facts concerning allegations of sexism at CITR and DISCORDER.\nSo here you are:\nExample One\nCover of June, 1985 DISCORDER\nThe photograph is a typical\n\"tacky Sixties\" picture used often\nby CITR and DISCORDER. Although DISCORDER uses other\nstyles of photographs every issue,\nthe pictures of women in them\nusually project a female stereotype\nwhich belittles women in a way that\nis rarely used to portray men.\nExample Two\nPage 2, June DISCORDER\nThis month's issue was asserrv\nbled by fourteen men and FOUR\nwomen. No articles were written by\nwomen. In fact, women did the shit\nwork of layout and typesetting.\nExample Three\nPage 6, June DISCORDER\nCITR obviously needs no\nwomen for its High Power. Every\nband in your fund-raiser was a\nmen's band. The \"leggy Prince\nGeorgettes\" do NOT count. You\nseem to be interested only in the\nlatest from men's bands, and as far\nas you are concerned, the \"dykes\nand bitches\" can go home if they\nfeel out of place.\nExample Four\nPage 12, June DISCORDER\nSkinny Puppy is yet another\nsadomasochist synthesizer band,\nand the slavish attention CITR\ngives to this bunch of boys is pathetic. This is cock rock for the trendy set\u00E2\u0080\u0094the joy of torture, mutilation and ultraviolence (and suffering) all at 120 beats per minute on\n12-inch single or cassette.\nExample Five\nrh6a&\nssssss^vspwy^sssssssssg\nPage 14, June DISCORDER (Program Guide)\nI'm not even going to mention\nthe fact that there are virtually no\nwomen as disc jockeys or announcers. My point here is that most of\nthe shows on CITR orient themselves to men and men's bands.\nDJs seem to worry about women\nin a token sense.\nExample Six\nPage 17, June DISCORDER\nAs usual, no women's bands\nwere reviewed. Most of the records\nreviewed were thankfully of the\nalternative vein.\nExample Seven\nCharts, June DISCORDER\nSpot the women's bands. Let us\nknow when you have some.\nI'm not suggesting that CITR indulge in tokenism or hypersensitivity on this issue. I overplayed the\nAu Pairs and Ann Clark and Joan\nArmatrading on my show but that\nwas only once a week that they\never got played.\nI simply want to aid the previous\nand potential efforts by women and\nmen in pointing out that you are\nconsistently ignoring women's\nmusic and consequently ignoring\nwomen.\nI urge all readers of DISCORDER and all listeners of CITR to\ncontinue the debate and I also urge\nmembers of CITR to consider the\nevidence and act in a responsive\nc/o CITR Radio\n6138 S.U.B. Blvd.\nVancouver, B.C.\nV6T2A5\nmanner to your supporters and\nyour critics.\nSincerely\nF. Ian Weniger\nformer DJ at CITR\nCFUO (in Ottawa)\nYour conception of what constitutes \"fact\" is a strange, one, Ian.\nAll I see here is hyperbole, innuendo, and generalization. Let's examine the examples one by one.\n1. Sexist? You be the judge.\n2. DISCORDER has not, as yet, installed a chromosome tester in our\noffices. Decisions on content in\nDISCORDER are not, and will not,\nbe made on the basis of sex. In\nshort, we welcome and encourage\nSAVE 70% or more on more than 70 titles!\nPublisher's\nclearance sale!\nNEW STAR BOOKS, PRESS GANG and\nPULP PRESS are joining forces to clear out\ntheir overstock, returns and bruised books.\nPolitics, literary, history, labour, feminist\ntitles and more priced to clear. Available at\nMacLeod's Books Octopus East Octopus West\n455 W. Pender 1146 Commercial 2250 W. Fourth\nFRIDAY, July 26 through SUNDAY, August 11 ONLY\ncontributions from anyone who is\nwilling to make the effort to write,\nand write well, regardless of sex.\n3. What is a men's band or a\nwomen's band? Seven of the\ngroups that performed included\nwomen, but I suppose in your view\nthey don't count either.\nYou're on your own as regards to\nthe reference to \"dykes and bitches\" because I haven't got a clue\nwhat you're talking about.\n4. One article hardly qualifies as\nslavish attention. If you don't like\nSkinny Puppy, do what I do\u00E2\u0080\u0094ignore\nthem. It's very easy.\n5. Good thing you didn't mention\nthe fact that there are virtually no\nwomen announcers at CITR because you would be wrong if you\ndid. If you'd bother to check your\n\"facts\" you'd have discovered that\nthere are many female programmers at CITR, not just in music but\nin news, sports and public affairs\nprogramming as well.\n6. I suppose the women in Working Week and Go Four 3 don't count\neither.\n7. Female musicians are represented on the charts, if only you'd\ncheck them out. What's a women's\nband?\nRe: Example Two\nI'm afraid I don't appreciate having my work called \"shit.\" As a\ntypesetter, a woman (not that being\na woman has anything to do with\nit) and as a person I am enjoying\nwhat I do for DISCORDER. Any\ntypesetter, male or female, is more\nthan welcome to contribute.\nDena Corby\nTypesetter\nSugar and Spice,\nand Everything Nice\nMr. Michael Shea\nMusic Director\nDear Mr. Shea,\nI am writing to express my disappointment with the interview you\ngave on PROPAGANDA, July 6th.\nMike Johal was questioning you\nabout your decision, as CITR's\nmusic director, to move from a playlist format to some other less structured one.\nYou said at one point that the\nplaylist had been made up from\nlisteners' responses and requests,\nannouncer preferences, and your\nown subjective judgement. You\nallowed that your position gives you\nthe power to exercise personal discretion over music choice. You\nadded with a chuckle that sometimes you just decide that you really didn't like such-and-such a record and that it shouldn't be on the\nlist. It began to sound like \"every\nSaturday night Mike and the boys\nget together to spin a few discs and\nhave a few beers...\"\nYou never made clear precisely\nwhat standards or mechanisms of\nselection would replace the play- D SCORDER A Guide to CITR fm 102 cable 100\nlist. While it may be pleasant and\nsatisfying for the announcers to\nhave more \"fluid\" and \"open\" programming, a non-philosophy\nregarding CITR's musical style and\nformat will ultimately be damaging\nto the station's reputation in a highly competitive market. Your job, Mr.\nShea, is to develop, and articulate,\na style of music programming that\nenhances the progressive and alternative philosophy CITR espou-\nces. Either you don't have a coherent philosophy, or you were unable\nto articulate it.\nFinally, your comments on\nwomen's music provoked my indignation. You had stated earlier that\nyou, as Music Director, buy and\npromote new music, and particularly new music by local artists,\neven at the expense of listener\nsatisfaction. You stated, at least\ntwice, that if you programmed\nmusic entirely by listener response,\nyou'd be playing old Iggy Pop, U2,\nCramps, etcetera, ad nauseam.\nYou claimed to recognize the\npower that the position of Music\nDirector gives you, and you claimed to use that power to combat the\ninequities of mainstream FM music\nprogramming. Imagine my surprise, then, when you immediately\nlabelled Mike Johal's suggestion\nabout the active promotion of\nwomen's music as \"contrived.\" It\nseems that your affirmative action\npolicy toward homegrown music\nstops short of artists without\npenises.\nYou'd be hard pressed to find\nmusic more progressive and alternative than the music of the\nwomen's movement, and of lesbian\nand women's culture! Your assertion that what CITR plays is a reflection of what is actually available\nin the marketplace is rubbish.\nYou admitted that your choice of\nmusic\u00E2\u0080\u0094I assume in terms of dollars spent\u00E2\u0080\u0094reflects your personal\nbias. That bias has no place in the\nmusic programming of an ambitious radio station. You are no longer\na little boy spinning your favorite\ndiscs for four hours a day.\nI suggest the following action:\n1) Set aside a percentage of\nrecord purchasing funds for music\nby women.\n2) Appoint a women's music\nadvisor/purchaser from CITR's\nmembership.\n3) Approach individual women,\nand women's groups, for lists of\nartist and labels.\n4) Contact distributors and independent record labels and ask\nthem specifically for women's\nmusic and material.\n5) Set up a music show which\nhighlights women's music. The\nshow might even include some\nprogressive songs by men (there\nare some)!\nSincerely\nAnila Srivastava\nMichael Shea replies:\nWhile I appreciate your interest in\nthe musical programming of CITR,\nI would like to clarify some points\nI feel have been misrepresented in\nyour letter.\nFirst, regarding the role of my\nbias in the purchase of new records\nand the compilation of the playlist;\nmy personal taste is an element, but\nby no means an omnipotent one. As\nmusic director, I must remain aware\nof the tastes and perspectives of\nboth announcers and listeners. In\nthe end, however, I have to rely on\nmy own judgement.\nSecond, the CITR philosophy (or\nlack of it) is not dictated by a committee; it exists as the sum of the\ncontributions of the individuals who\nchoose to involve themselves as listeners, announcers, or musicians,\nin the station. As music director, I\ntry to reflect this diversity by programming a variety of music.\nIn regards to your comment regarding local music: we do not promote music at the expense of listener satisfaction. I was referring to\nthe less-than-pristine audio quality\nof some of the demo tapes we\nreceive, which might not be to the\ntaste of some of our audiophile\nlisteners. Recording technique is,\nhowever, merely a part of packaging, and we hope to put the emphasis more on content.\nFinally, in dealing with the issue\nof women's music you seem to\nindicate that treating \"women's\nmusic\" as a separate entity would\ndo it justice. I disagree. If you are\ngoing to change the world, you are\ngoing to have to join it first.\nWomen's music is part of a whole\n(as is men's, gay's, black's, etc.) and\nonce separated from that whole it\nceases to act as a dynamic force\nin changing the composition. More\nwomen making more music, not\nquotas, is the solution to any shortage of music by women on CITR.\nProletariat Strife?\nDear Airhead,\nAmongst all that funky advertising there must be some room for\na bit of somewhat primitive political\npoetry.\nBack in Victoria,\nin the land of a right-wing warrior,\nthere's talk of a new reality\n\u00E2\u0080\u0094regardless of the casualties\nsacrificed like so much lamb,\nby the governing rich who\ndon't give a damn\nabout you and me and\nthe quality of life\nor of the true reality\nof proletariat strife\nand I'd give up my\nnext U.I. cheque\nto see bourgious Bennet\nstrung up by the neck!\nNo name given\nCustom Black & White\nPrinting & Processing\ni\nMounting & Framing\n687-6811\n72 West Cordova Street,\nVancouver, B.C.\nJ\nAFTER MIDNITE\nYOU CAN RECORD IN ONE OF\nVANCOUVER'S BEST STUDIOS\nFOR AS LITTLE AS $45/HR.*\n\u00E2\u0099\u00A6IF TIME IS AVAILABLE\n733-3146\nbetter used clothing & accessories .\nfor ladies and men\nwHH^ZZ..'....'.I?04 commercial drive 251.-7390\n\"' mon * - sat. 11V00-5:30 \" \" sun.' 1:00*4:00\ncustom\n12-6 Thus, thru Sat. or by appointment Oft^lMlS\nSTORE NO. 1\n875-1897 3520 Main St. (at 19thj DISCORDER A Guide to CITR fm 102 cable 100\nAugust 1985\nFolk from the Edge\nFolk music!?! not that crap\nthat ageing hippies listen to while\nguzzling real \"organic\" beer, with\ntheir fingers in their ears so they\ncan't hear the music. Not on CITR,\nsurely?\nOh yes, I'm a\nFolk Music wit\nlast year or so; si\nstarted pi a;\nmusic rW^N\t\nLobos, REM, Jason & the Scorchers, etc.) and at the same time,\nBritish bands such as The Pogues,\nThe Men They Couldn't Hang and\nBoothill Foot-Tappers have begun\na movement sometimes referred to\nas Rogue Folk. ThfeSe bands project the appearance of punks, and\nplay traditional music, updated,\nand often disrespectfully so, to\nshake up the complacency of both\nthe Top 40 and established folk\nscenes.\nSince June 1st, I have been\npresenting a show from 10:30 a.m.\nto 12 noon on Saturday mornings,\nand have tried to blend the new\nrogue stuff with elements of traditional folk music from around the\nworld. Featured artists have included The Pogues, a North London-\nbased Irish band; Spirit of the\nWest, a local band who play to en\nthusiastic audiences in clubs such\nas The Railway Club and The\nSavoy, on Saltspring Island and\nFolk Festivals in Courtenay and\nSeattle (but alas, not at Vancouver's own folk festival. A glaring\nomission if ever there was one);\nRichard & Linda Thompson, established Brit folk-rockers, once mar-\npursuing solo careers\njdrjrably^and Billy Bragg, who\nfmec&rilliantly at the Town\ntly.\nMixed in with these people have\nbeen well-known Canadian singer\n(and sadly lamented, too) Stan\nRogers; Irish/Scottish bands such\nas The Boys of the Lough, Stockton's Wing, the Tannahill Weavers,\nThe JSD Band, The Chieftains;\nEnglish folk stalwarts Fairport\nConvention; American bands like\nTouchstone and Los Lobos, as well\nas South American music from\nPeru and Bolivia.\nThe new season of the Folk\nShow will begin on August 10th. If\nyou have any requests and/or\ncomments about the show either,\nphone them in on Saturday, or better still, drop me a line and I'll see\nwhat I can do...\nComments/requests should be\naddressed to: Steve Edge, c/o The\nFolk Show, CITR, 6138 SUB Blvd.,\nU.B.C, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A5.\nThe new CITR T-shirt is a bold new fashion statement, heralding\na new style and sensibility that is shaking the fashion world in New\nYork, Paris and Rome even as you read this.\nWhich is, of course, a load of bollocks.\nHowever, we think it's a pretty nifty T-shirt. And we think you'd\nprobably look pretty good wearing one.\nSo glad you agree.\n\"So,\" you ask, reaching for your wallet, \"where do I get one?\"\nWell, right now you can pick them up at CITR (room 233, Student\nUnion Building, UBC) or at Zulu Records, The Savoy or the Railway\nClub. Soon we hope they'll be everywhere.\nBuy one tomorrow, okay?\nPhoto Jim Main\nShindig\u00E2\u0080\u0094The Record is now available at all of the finest vinyl emporiums. Featuring Red Herring, Rhythm Mission, My Three Sons, Nerve\nTubes, Death Sentence and NG3, the record was recorded live at the\nSavoy by the Commercial Electronics Mobile Studio. Great live sound,\nsix great bands, all brought to you by CITR. We don't know how you\ncould possibly pass it up.\nPhoto Dave Jacklin\nSpinlist\nFOR SIX YEARS NOW, THE\nLegendary CITR Playlist has been\nan invaluable consumers' guide to\nhe wide world of the Other Music.\nBut all good things must pass and\nin their place hopefully come better things... and better things in\nbigger sizes, too! The new CITR\nSpin List is your guide to which\ncurrent releases are receiving airplay on FM 102. Over 100 new\ndemos, 7\" and 12\" singles, EPs\nand LPs are included on the weekly Spin List, now available at Zulu,\nOdyssey, and Revolutions record\nstores. Each month, the Spin List\nis sent to 150 record companies\nand radio stations in Canada, the\nUnited States and Europe, too.\nIf you want to hear the Spin List,\ntune in to CITR's new releases program NEOFILE, hosted by Michael\nShea and heard every Saturday\nnoon to 4.\nHigh Power Update\nThe plot has thickened in\nCITR's pursuit of an increase in\npower. We have learned that the\nCRTC has received another application for the frequency from an as\nyet unidentified group or station.\nWhile this does complicate matters, we are confident that, with\nyour support, we can prevail in our\nattempt to improve the reception\nand availability of CITR.\nThis additional application does,\nhowever, make it more important\nthan ever that you demonstrate to\nthe CRTC your support for alternative radio in Vancouver. So it's time\nto hunker down to that typewriter,\nput a point on the pencil, or jump\nstart the word processor: the deadline for letters and petitions in support of CITR's bid for High Power\nis August 23rd. After that date, your\nbest intentions will fall on deaf ears.\nSo put the procrastination to an\nend: WRITE TODAY.\nAll letters should be directed to:\nTHE SECRETARY GENERAL,\nCRTC, and should make reference\nto the application of THE RADIO\nSOCIETY OF UBC and the application number\u00E2\u0080\u0094#851106500.\nPlease send your letter to:\nCITR RADIO\n6138 SUB BLVD., UBC\nVANCOUVER, B.C. V6T 2A5\nShindig Returns\nNO SOONER DOES SHINDIG\u00E2\u0080\u0094\nThe Record hit the stores than it's\ntime to start all over again. Shindig will once again showcase local\ntalent every Monday night at the\nSavoy, with prizes of recording time\nand equipment awaiting the lucky\nwinners of the finals in December.\nIf you are in a band, or know\nsomeone who might be interested DISCORDER A Guide to CITR fm 102 cable 100\nBARGAIN MATINEES $2.50 FIRST 2 SHOWS EVERY DAY\nALL AGES ADMITTED\nALL SEATS $5.00\nWATCH FOR\nTHE\nROUGH\nTRADE\nFILM FESTIVAL\nAUG 7 THRU\nSEPT. 5\n\u00E2\u0096\u00A0>*m . JsWI\n24 HOUR INFO\nCALL 681-1732\n00WNT0WN\nMIDNITE\nStudio &inem A.KO.B.\nV NG3\nTHE SUDDEN iMpArT\n\u00C2\u00BB\nEDD,EDUTCHMAN\nJaZzTr'o\nTHE WH,TE WALLY\nABySEBAND\nGUESTS\nJO\nTHE HATERS\n\"C0MmErC|AL\nAPpEARANCE\"\n+\nMECCA nOrMAL\nThursday iTri6aH No Cover UJ ill 10^"@en . "Periodicals"@en . "ML3533.8 D472"@en . "ML3533_8_D472_1985_08"@en . "10.14288/1.0050158"@en . "English"@en . "Vancouver : University of British Columbia Library"@en . "Vancouver : Student Radio Society of the University of British Columbia"@en . 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