{"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.14288\/1.0049855":{"https:\/\/open.library.ubc.ca\/terms#identifierAIP":[{"value":"5866ee84-65b7-4041-944d-a85aa516db68","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/www.europeana.eu\/schemas\/edm\/dataProvider":[{"value":"CONTENTdm","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/purl.org\/dc\/terms\/isPartOf":[{"value":"Discorder","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/purl.org\/dc\/terms\/creator":[{"value":"CITR-FM (Radio station : Vancouver, B.C.)","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/purl.org\/dc\/terms\/issued":[{"value":"2015-03-11","type":"literal","lang":"en"},{"value":"1995-11-01","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/www.europeana.eu\/schemas\/edm\/aggregatedCHO":[{"value":"https:\/\/open.library.ubc.ca\/collections\/discorder\/items\/1.0049855\/source.json","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/purl.org\/dc\/terms\/extent":[{"value":"32 pages","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/purl.org\/dc\/elements\/1.1\/format":[{"value":"application\/pdf","type":"literal","lang":"en"}],"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2009\/08\/skos-reference\/skos.html#note":[{"value":" NOV.\/DE \"It's the new renaissance. He's demonstrating\nlife through poetry in its most modern form\nand his style is unfaded and unlimited.\nIt's the ancient voice from Africa, from Asia,\nand from Europe: the lost souls of America.\nHis voice is the lost souls...\" - Nas\n\"This is really some next shit.\" - The Source\nM...AZ takes refuge inside the rhythmic walls\nof CTeation. He emerges as a scholar of\nghetto sociology and a master storyteller who\nreports the realities of the day with frontline precision.\" - Vibe\n\"Check the\nCheckmate rate:\n100% no doubt!\nSugar Hill, baby,\nSugar Hill, baby -\nbuy it!\" - Elements This being our fourth issue since our debut in May 1995,\nwe're starting to see shit a little more clearly now. It's somewhat difficult to contact our contacts on the east coast because of the 3 hour time difference, which means we gotta\nwake up mad early. No big deal, right Label reps are usually\ncool and cooperate without any big hasseb, even though our\nmagazine is relatively young But the bottom line is, it's not\nwhat you know or how well you do it, all that really matters is\nwho you know. For instance, when we tried to get an interview with a certain legendary artist, whose new album was\njust recently released, we phoned the international offices.\nSounds resonable right? Big time artist, we're from Canada\nso, phone international publicity. Understand, in any case,\ninternational or independent, these people are extremely busy\nand so it's common knowledge to follow up phone calls so\nthat it doesn't slip their mind. Not badgering, but persistent\nIn this particular case, I myself phoned the representative at\nthe international offices and talked to the rep and I was informed that I would be contacted once the artists interviewing schedule was figured out Two days later I phoned back to\ninquire and give a friendly \"reminder\" of my request where\nthis representative requested information on our magazine\nbecause she wasn't familiar with it So I promptly faxed her\nsome articles I had written, along with the Raekwon cover\nand a short letter expressing our interest in featuring the artist in question as the cover illustration. Right? Anyways,after\nI faxed the small package over I waited patiently about a business week before calling her again. This time, her voice mail\nanswered and on it she said, \"If you need to contact me you\ncan page me at..\" So I paged her. No return call. The next\nday I phoned again. No response. Now I'm thinking,\"Alright\nam I gonna cross that line and become annoying?\" No. A few\nthings were riding on the confirmation of this particular interview (the cover.the article, the fucking completion of the mag.)\nso yeah, I paged her again. This time she paged back and\ninformed me, in an evil stepmother type of manner, that she\ndidn't know if we could get the interview and she's really really busy and she told me to stop paging her. Like I was jocking\nher for a fucking date or something. I shared this little conversation with J Swing and he decided we should phone the\nindependent label that this particular artist personally owns,\nalong with the wonderful staff. They in turn called the U.S.\npublicist as opposed to the international rep and needless to\nsay, the interview was instantly confirmed with a date and\ntime and that was that Now being the professionals here at\nElements that we are, we realized that a thank you was in\norder for the big cheeses, no matter how ill mannered their\nreps are. So we called up the wicked stepmother and thanked\nher for finalizing the date, her response was,,rtbu mean you\nwent over MY head to get this interview done?\" What the\nfuck you think?! You weren't doin' shit for us.\nA sincere thank you goes out to Theola at Jive Records and\nRebecca at Front Page Records for hooking up the KRS One\ninterview. Many props and respects go out to Rap Pages for\nfeaturing Elements in their November issue and to all you\nwho saw that and sent letters asking for info. Word up.\n- Flipout\nCiTR I0l.9fm\nnov\/dec #4\nNew logo and Group Home cover courtesy of Virus (Always Armed Crew). Dedos is resting his fingers. Z Lok's in his house.\nWe're sober and we're still mid late. Shit ain't ever gonna change - Fuck It Good things come to those who don't give a fuck.\nAll writes are reserved and biters will be laughed uponl Elements '95 into '96. PEACE.\nPharcyde 10\nGenius 13\nGroup Home 18\nSaukrates 22\nAZ 24\nWord? 5\nVinyl Konflict\n-Stretch Armstrong 6\nThe Seen 9\nMasterpieces 16\nre: Views 26\nMixTape 30\nY'knowhati'msayin 30\nEditors\nMr. Flipout\nJ Swing\nAssistant Editor\nRokncb \"WhereMuckArtThouf\" Espinoza\nLayout\/Product\/on\nj Swing & Flipout\nArt Direction\nAllCity Action learn\nContributes\nCheckmate\nFreeStyle Crazee\nKemKwan\nKemo the Labrat\nKiio-Cee\nMr. Bill\nScorpio\nPhotography\nRolando Espinoza\nPublisher\nLinda Scholten\nElements Hip Hop Journal. Elements is a bi-month^ magazine published by the Student Radio Society of UBC.\nContent - Elements will focus on all elements of Hip Hop culture: MCs. DJ's, Breaking and Graffiti - on both a focal, national,and\ninternational level.The magazine features interviews, music reviews, and lifestyle issues pertaining to the Hip Hop cornmunky.\nEditorial fcfoy - Elements jointly shares CiTR programming policy (ask Linda Scholten or Miko Hoffman @ CiTR radio (604)\n822-3017 for details) and encourages submissions from all members of CiTR and the general pubic Please ensure\nconsistency with the magazine's underground theme for better publishing consideration (\"cause we don't print no bullshit).\nSubmissions- Please forward all submissions (illustrations, flicks, essays, reviews, opinions, etc) to: Elements, c\/o CiTR, #233-\n6138 SUB BlvcLVancouver. B.C. CANADAV6T IZI or.fax us at (604) 822 9364. HIP HOP W&\nMCS ACT LIKE THEY DONT KNOW\nREPRESENT THE REAL HB? HOP\n(WITH DAS EFX)\nAi<30 rwpnt orr? appfarantes ry\nFAT JOE, CHANNEL LIVE, MAD HON,\nAND MANY MORE\nHA fcEAL >\u00abH-HV!\nIYOUFROM 93TUtINFINITY\u2122\n'GOING TO TAKE YOU\n!T0\n10 MAN'S LAND\ni SHOW FOR REAL and\n10CKIT LIKE THAT\nHIEROGLYPHICS KEEPW IT REAL _*. '_* ~_t *'* ^h\nwr #-\nIn\n\u00a3\u00a3\u25a0\n-. -^ j\n-**\u00bb\nPF Cuttin & Out Loud of Blahzay Blahzay\nAttention all dick riders, the infamous Mr. Bill has left The Krispy Biscuit\" Mixx Show to pursue personal endeavours but can still be heard\n(or read) in Elements starting next issue in hi* \"Metaphysics\" column.\nWord?... Rascalz have finished work on their upcoming LP Cash Crop\non Figure IV Records and will be releasing a new single in early '96 tentatively titled \"Dreaded Fist Of The North West\"... Eliminations for\nthe Canadian DMC Competition are being held across Canada this\nmonth in Montreal, Hamilton,Toronto, Winnipeg and Vancouver.\nThe top three finalists in each city will go to the Canadian finals inToronto\nin March. The winner will receive a pair of Technique 1200's and airfare\nplus accommodations to the World Finals in Italy... Cipher just finished shooting the video for their second single \"How It Goes\" featuring Natural Skills... The newest issue of Canada's first Graff-zine XYLENE\nis now out For more info call (604) 986-2323 or write to XYLENE 159 W.\nQueens Road, N.Vancouver, BC V7N 2K4... Tommy Boy's new street\nrecruit Big \"even pack my gat when I go to see my P.O.\" Noyd is in jail\nuntil February for violating his parole. In the meantime Tommy Boy is\nreleasing a promo only single called \"Recognize and Realize\" featuring\nMobb Deep. The track is produced by Havoc and features Noyd flipping it back and forth with Prodigy... Speaking of the Mobb, they have\nreleased a promo only single with the original version of \"Temperature's Risin'\" (they couldn't clear the sample for the album) and a new\nsong called \"Still Shinin'\". The duo is currently in the studio working on\ntheir 2nd album for Loud. Word?... Also out on Loud in early '96 will be\nthe Tash aka Rico solo E.P. (no, the Uks didn't break up) and Xhibit's\ndebut shortly following... Priority\/Duck Down will be releasing Heltah\nSkeltah's highly anticipated debut album this spring. Originoo Gunn\nClappaz will follow later in '96. The two groups can currently be heard\ntogether as the Fab 5ive, a record that was put out to create a buzz for\ntheir solo releases... Death Row has added 2 Pac to their roster of\nsuperstar's, who is currently out on bail working on his next album-\nFlavor Flav has once again had a run in with babylon. His latest encounter with 5-0 occured when he was arrested in the South Bronx, carrying\nthree vials of crack and a .38 semi-automatic handgun. Word? Damn...\nthose of you who are Mad Skillz fans are going to have to wait a little\nlonger for his debut LP From Where???. The release date has been pushed\nback to '96 so he can work on a couple of new songs. Until then, be on\nthe look out for his brand new hot club jammy jam called \"Move Ya\nBody\". On a brighter note, the single also features a remix of \"Nod\nFactor\" and a track called \"Extra Abstract Skillz\" featuring Extra\nLarge Professor and Q-Tip... The new MastaAce single is a double a-\nside with remixes of \"Turn It Up\" featuring INC member Leshea and\n\"Da Answer\" on Delicious Vinyl... Premier did a remix for Blahzay\nBlahzay's \"Danger\". The track will also feature \"the long dick pussy\nsticker, the ready to bust that ass kicker\", Smoothe Da Hustler and his\nbrother Trigger Da Gambler who has already landed a record deal of\nhis own... Also be on the look out for AZ's \"Gimmie Yours\" remix b\/\nw \"Uncut Raw\" on EMI, Raekwon The Chef \"Rainy Days\" remix\nfeaturing T-Boz. Word?... The Pharcyde's \"Drop\" remix on Delicious Vinyl, Real Live's \"Real Live Shit\" on Big Beat, GZA featuring\nRoily Fingers aka Inspector Deck and Life with \"Cold World\" on Geffen\nand the Das EFX \"Microphone Master\" remix featuring Mobb Deep\non East\/West.. If you can, find a copy of J-Live's independent 12\" \"Longevity\" b\/w \"Braggin' Wrights\" on Raw Shack (b-side wins again)...\nOther independent records out include DJ Rob Swift (X-Men) featuring\nCracker Jax with \"Sly Rhymes\" b\/w \"Nickle & Dime\" on Fat Beats,\nMoney Boss Players' \"Player's Pinnacle\", UBAD's \"The Legacy\"\non Blacklist, The Beatnuts produced Triflicts with \"Genuine\" b\/w\n\"Don't Make MeTry\" on Hydra, Saukrates' \"Hate Runs Deep\" b\/w\n\"Get Touched\" on Genesis and E.C. with \"No More\" on Wicked...\nPremier did a mix tape for Penalty Records featuring Shabazz, Lord\nFinesse and others... KRS One put out a record entitled, \"Strictly\nFor The Breakdancers\" that's kinda fly on his Front Page Entertainment record label, DJs should peep it as well... Oh yeah, was that fuckin'\nBud Bundy in KRS One's video? Word.\nVancouver Radio\nCiTR IOL9fm\n\"The Show\" Sat.6-8pm\n\"Awara House\" Tue 6-7pm\n\"Hip Hop Habit\" every other Mon. 7-9pm\nCFRO I02.7fm\n\"Krispy Biscuit\" Tue. Mkfoight-2am\n\"No Mercy On The Groove\" T.BA\n\"Beats 2 Tha Rhyme* Mon. I -7am\nCJSF93.9fm\n\"Straight No Chaser\" Fri.8-I0pm\n\"Straight Outta Newton\" Wed. 7-9pm\nnov\/dec 5 Interview byJS\n\t\nNew York, New York. No matter\nwhere you live and no matter how\nmuch props you got and how many\nhook ups, it's hard to compete with\nradio shows that are located in the\nneighborhoods most of the rhymers\nyou spin twelve inches of,actually live\nin. I mean, imagine having Rakim,\nKRS, and Wu members stop by or\nmaybe have Nas Escobar in a few\ntimes to kick some rhymes on the air\nalong side Q tip. If you're ever in the\nRotten Apple, tune your radio dial to\n89 tek 9 WKCR fm New York on any\nThursday night at around I o' clock\nam for 3 or 4 hours of exactly what\nwas described. Brought to you courtesy of a DJ named Stretch\nArmstrong and a funny ass co-host\nwith hobbies such as cutting hair,\nNike shoes and pornographic shit.\nDescribe your show for the people who\nhaven't had a chance to hear it?\nBasically what the show is... it's dynamic, it's different every week, and excuse the expression\nbut it's real in that both Bobbito and myself don't\ntry and pretend we're anything we're not Whatever happened, happened. It was spontaneous\nand there wasn't a format. We weren't trying to\nsound like commercial radio. We weren't trying\nto mold ourselves to any standard. And then\nmusically I think my show than any other is responsible for playing\nDo you get all your advanced music on vinyl?\nNaw, naw. I press up my own dub plates from\nDATs. I mean it's a luxury, I mean it's almost an\nunnecessary luxury but I'm also playing in clubs\nso if I can take some really hot shit, throw it on\nthat shit, I can play it at the club and really blow\npeoples heads yaknowhati'msayin?\nWho has the most input with your show?\nMusically it's pretty much all me, unless I'm not\nthere. When I'm not there the show is usually\ndivided into two. The first two hours being a\nguest DJ which would usually be DJ Riz, Eclipse,\nRoc Raider, maybe my man Homicide. I like to\nstick with people I'm close with and have skills -\npeople I see eye to eye with. I mean I'm not\nputting myself on par with Roc Raider (laughs),\nbut I know he's going to do some dope shit I'm\nnot going to put anyone on who falls below the\nstandard of the show. And then the second hour\nBobbito will play a lot of demos and stuff that I\nmight not play. We definitely have different tastes.\nHe's into that spaced out, talkin' \"Membrane\npolygon scientific\" type of shit I'm just into dope\nshit I don't give a fuck what it is. To me you\ndon't have to break ground lyrically. I mean Mobb\nDeep didn't break ground lyrically, but they're\ndope. You can call Mobb Deep whatever you\nwant I look at it as \"Project Rap\" really, not\n\"Gangsta Rap\". If you look at \"Gangsta Rap\" that's\na term that came out of the west coast and that\nwhole gang culture which we don't really have\nover here. Here we have the projects. So I look\nat Mobb Deep and Nas and groups like that that's\n\"RJ.\" rap to me. I mean look at songs like \"Give\nUp The Goods\" in which you know what they're\nabout but at the same time check the music - it's\nnew music. You'll hear\nHot 97 talking about\n\"You heard it here first!\"\nand all this other shit\nbut our listeners know\nI'll get shit months before anyone else. Not\non everything 'cause that's another thing, I don't\nplay anything I don't like. People might disagree\nwith me but chances are your not going to hear\nanything wack or even mediocre. I mean everything I play is going to be dope so you can stay\nup for the four hours and know that your gonna\nget dope shit Even if you just want to hear music,\nchances are you'll probably even keep the talking 'cause it can get pretty funny.\n\"Everybody from unsigned artists to big wig\nartists pass through the show but I'd expect\nit to be a little more easier to get certain\nartists up there.\"\nover some jazzy pretty shit It's almost like an\neerie combination.\nBut it's bangin' though.\nOh yeah no doubt that's the shit But back to\nme and Bobbito, that sometimes leads to problems. You know, sometimes Bobbito will get\ncredit for playing records from people at labels\nthat don't really know what the deal is. Chances\nare Bob wouldn't even be playin' that record.\nThey sent Bobbito a platinum record for Outkast\nand that's not his type of thing. For a while people were calling it the Bobbito show because I\ndidn't speak. I was crazy shy.\nWhat made you decide to start speakin?\nIt was actually Flex, Funkmaster Flex. I gotta big\nhim up for this 'cause a long time ago - about\nthree or four years ago he was like \"Yo,you guys\ngot mad listeners but let me tell you man, I gotta\ntalk to you 'cause your a fellow DJ. Yo you gotta\ntalk more. You gotta let people know who you\nare. You can be the dopest DJ in the world but if\nyour trying to get somewhere in this business as\na DJ and a personality on the radio... you gotta\nlet 'em know.\" And I didn't listen to him right\naway but then I started hearing people call it the\nBobbito show and that shit infuriates me. I mean\nany DJ can understand that Especially since I\nput Bobbito on. So now I'm definitely more vocal. I talk as much as I can - I'm practically a co-\nhost\nYou have a lot of artist come through your\nshow.\nYeah, but I mean you'd think the artist would\nmake a big effort to hit the underground shows\nmore than they do. I'm not saying they don't\nbecause definitely big wig artists come through.\nEverybody from unsigned artists to big wig artists pass through the show but I'd expect it to\nbe a little more easier to get certain artists up\nthere. We had to wait five years for KRS to\ncome up three weeks ago. I mean 'cause Hot 97\nis so accepting and has this open door policy\ntowards the Hip Hop community they feel they\ndon't need to hit the\nsmall shows. Let me tell\nyou, when Hot 97 flips\nand isn't doing Hip Hop\nanymore artists are going to make a big racket\n\"Oh Hot 97 doesn't\nlove us,\" but it's not\nabout love it's about business. Right now people are making money off Hip Hop that's why\nHot 97 is doing it I mean you can hear KRS on\nHot 97 all the time doing spots, interviews, specials and all this blah, blah, blah. But check this\nout a few Thursdays ago he was making radio\nrounds. He went to Martin Moore and Mayhem\non 89.1 WNYU, and in his rhymes he started\nmentioning my name and Bobbito's name. I was\n6 elements listening before I went to my show and I was like\n\"Yo what's he talkin about? Why is he biggin' us\nup on their show?\" And then he said \"Bobbito\nget back on the mic.\" He thought he was at my\nshow. Which was a mistake, ya know whatever\n- nobody's perfect But I think someone like KRS\nOne who is so respected as being such a fundamental part of Hip Hop and being someone who\nis not afraid to be intellectual, was realty misinformed himself. I was\nshocked, I couldn't believe it Then he came\nup later and rocked rt\nI love KRS, he's one of\nmy all time favorite artists but I was definitely\ndisappointed that his\nknowledge of the underground Hip Hop scene in New York City was\nso limited. I mean I could understand if he didn't\nknow what was going on where your at 'cause\nhe ain't from there. But I've been the air for five\nyears. Mayhem does not look like me, Martin\nmoore does not look like Bobbito. and NYU\ndoesn't look like WKCR - They're at different\nparts of town, yaknowhati'msayin'? It was ba-\nSo KRS rocked it\nOh yeah, he ripped it Him and Finesse. They\nwere both scheduled to come by and we pulled\na slick one. We told them to show up at the\nsame time and I brought my SP up and told Finesse to bring disks. It was on. They went back\nand forth over the SP.\nWhat arc your most memorable moments from your show.\nDefinitely one of the most memorable was when\nLarge Professor coming up with the SP 1200 and\nin the house was Ultramagnetic, Organized\nKonfusion and of course Large was rhyming as\nwell so that was rather ridiculous. KRS and Lord\nFinesse rhyming back and forth was incredible\nfor me That was definitely a peak moment First\ntime Organized came up \u2022 they did their rhymes\nfrom \"Casualties OfWar\" from their first album\nover Kool G. Rap's \"Bad To The Bone\" remix\nwhich I had gotten that day. Those rhymes over\nthat beat was disgusting. In the middle of the\nverse the whole station shut down - we lost\npower. It seemed more than a coincidence, like\nthey had melted the station down or some shit\nAlso what was dope was the February 14th Valentines Day show in 1991. Akinyele, Nas and\nLord Finesse rhymin' back and forth. That was\nridiculous. Anytime Nas has come up has been\nridiculous.\nHow wedd you describe your self as DJ?\nI think I'm a versatile DJ. I mean I do a hardcore\nHip Hop show on the radio and I also play in\nclubs - all over the world. I've been to Japan six\ntimes this year, Copenhagen, Paris, London, and\nall over New York. I can play for any crowd ya\nknow, hardcore or trendy.\nWhat are your future plans?\n\"February 14th Valentines Day show in 1991.\nAkinyele, Nas and Lord Finesse rhymin' back\nand forth. That was ridiculous. Anytime Nas\nhas come up has been ridiculous.\"\nI'm starting my own label right now called Dolo\nRecords. My partner is Nick Eisenman,formally\nof Nervous Records, and so he's gonna put something together as far as distribution.\nSo your not at Loud anymore.\nNope. I'm gonna pursue this. I need to be doin'\nshit for myself at this point It doesn't make sense\nto collect a salary that I can match in one night\nof DJing. In the future I'd also like to get involved in movie's. Producing movies. That's really what I want to do, really having a hands on\ntype of thing. Being involved in the overall creative process. I already have ideas for movie's\nthat I think would be cool.\nfundamentally there is this struggle. In the best\ncase scenario I think it work really well. I think\nartists could be very happy. They could have a\nmutually profitable experience with a label,but I\nmean you gotta think about it Of all the records\nthat come out how many even recoup how many\nmake money? Maybe 5%. Those 5% have to\nsupport the 95% that don't make money. So\nchances are most aren't gonna be happy, that's\nthe bottom line. It's like\nof all the actors out\nthere, how many are\nworking? It's easy to\nblame a label for your\nfailure, but the bottom\nline is not everybody\ncan succeed. If you\nlook at the mathematics it just doesn't work like that But if your on\na label that knows how to sell and promote\nrecords because they've done it in the past and\nyou have a good record, somethin' good is gonna\nhappen. As an artist you also gotta know unless\nyour selling platinum plus,your not going to make\na lot of moneys from royalties. Your either going to make your money from shows or if you\nhave a hit record, from publishing. It's definitely\na rough game and only the cream of the crop\nare really making any type of money that's going\nto last for a long time.\nHip Hop related?\nNaw, well they're urban oriented and they would\ndefinitely involve some of the characters that I've\nencountered and heard about in my musical travels. But that's not necessarily just musical thing\nand neither are the characters that are involved\nin these cityscapes.\nArtist speak a lot about how record labels\nare shady and whatnot. How do you see it\nhaving been on both sides?\nThe relationship between an artist and a label is\nsomewhat like a marriage. The way I look at it is\nnot every artist,l| appropriate for every label\nand not every label is appropriate for every artist If someone is doing well on a label they're\nprobably going to be happy. If not they're probably going to think the labels shady. Now I'm\nsure some people are shady and there is definitely is some shady business practices that are\nstandard in the industry to screw artists. The\nrecording industry wasn't set up to benefit artists, it was set up to benefits the people who\nown the industry. For an artist to put a record\nout he's gotta rely on this whole machinery which\nisn't there for the artist it's there for itself. So\nnov\/dec THE BIG OWE\nTHE TREMOR 96 STAFF WOULP LIKE TO THANK ALL OF ITS\nASSOCIATES, RAPIO STATIONS, LAPELS, MAGAZINES ANP\nMOST IMPORTANTLY HEAPS FOR THEIR SUPPORT.\n5FUL1996\n-LETS PO THIS- nov\/dec 9 In the year of 1991 the musical group Brand New\nHeavies collaborated with some of Hip Hop's greats\nincluding Masta Ace, Gangstarr, Kool G Rap and\nPuba, just to name a few. There was also a song by\nthe name of \"Soul Rower\" featuring a fresh new\nmember of the Delicious Vinyl roster that went by\nthe name of The Pharcyde. These four new MCs\ndisplayed an energy that could only be compared\nto the then mighty Leaders of the New School but\nat the same time uncomparaNe to any. Much to\nthe delight of those anticipating their full length\nrelease, the level of genuine energy was intact and\neven amplified on their now classic 1992 debut album appropriately entitled, Blzzm Ride te the\nPharcyde. Over three and a half years and numerous tours later, the Pharcyde have resurfaced\nin a new form. Older, wiser, more experienced\nand much mellower. Fat Up, Imani, Slim Kid Tre and\nBootie Brown have pooled their thoughts in the\nform of beats and rhymes and occasional harmonizing, to express their new found Revelations\non their latest project entitled, Labcabincallfornki.\nElements had the opportunity to speak to Bootie\nBrown in the studio for his thoughts on the put\npresent and future of himself and the group.\nWhat were you doing before you became a\nmember of the Pharcyde?\nI was dancing, Imani was dancing, and then Tre knew\nImani. We were in a group ailed 242 with another guy named Robert Vincent That was when\nwe were doing those songs where we was kinda\nsinging and dancing and stuff like that Then Fat Up\nwas solo, he was a solo MC and we all met up with\nJ Swift you know. J Swift was like,'To man, I've\ngot this equipment I can make you guys some beats,\nI've got some ideas.\" J Swift is the one that kinda\ngot us all together. But as far as being a group, we\nall decided it ourselves like, \"OK let's do this together.\"\nSo that's why you guys sing so much.\nWe were a singing group first right That wu our\nthing, you know. Before Bizarre Ride, most of our\nsongs were like singing songs. And then when we\nwere at SCU there was a lot of singers there and J\nSwift was an R&B producer. So our first album\nwu his beginning in Hip Hop. he was never really\ndoin' Hip Hop beats before then. We were always\nlike, harmonizing and stuff like that so it was like\nsomething that was always there.\nHow did L.A. Jay fit in to the picture?\nHe was a factor because he was one of the producers that was there with J Swift LA. Jay wu a\nDJ and he would make our tapes for our shows\nlike when we would dance on stage and stuff like\nthat you know. So it was like, all good.\nLet's go beck for a eukk minute. Were you\n10 elements surprised at the success of \"Passing Me By\"? So you haven't seen any cheques?\nI thought people would like it because it wu on\nour demo and that's the song most people liked. It\nwas like, we put a lot of effort into it so you figure\nsomeone's gonna like it But you just don't know\nhow much they'll like it So I knew somebody would\nlike it but I never knew it wu gonna be like that.\nSome rhymers, mostly from the LA. scene,\nbit your high pitched style after that song\nblew up. I also noticed you don't do it as\nmuch on the new album.\nI'm glad you said that Yeah, so people are bitin' it\nso if I do it now it'll seem like I'm trying to stake\nmy claim like,\"l DIDTHIS\" then I'd have to say,\"AII\nthe biters, blah blah blah...\" And I'm not even tryin'\nto approach it that way, I'm just like,\"Fuck that\" I\ndon't even want to do it or talk about it I'd just\nrather spend my time tying to make up some new\nshityaknowhati'msayin.come out with a new style.\nIt's gonna take a while.\nWhat's your own opinion of your first album\nBizzarre Ride 1\nIt was our first project and people liked it so I liked\nit for that reason. I mean, it wasn't the best thing\nthat I think we could do. It wasn't super dope, not\nto me at least. There's a lot of things we could do\nbetter like the overall sound, a lot of the lyrics\n'cause there's a lot of things we could've talked\nabout more in detail. But it was our first time and\nwe didn't know anything, we were just doin' it and\nthe then people just asked for us to turn it in, so\nwe were like \"OK\" and we turned it in.\nWhat was the response to that album on\nthe east coast as compared with the west\ncoast, if there was any difference at all?\nWhen our first album came out people first gotta\na hold of us in New York and then we came back\nhome and then people were wit it. I mean, we had\na small crowd at home of people who were into\nus. But when we went to New York, interest grew\na little and when we came back home everything\nwas like, \"OK\". I don't know, it's kinda strange\nbecause 8 months or a year after our album was\nout that's when everything started to hit that's\nwhen we started goin' out on the road and touring. That's why this album was so late because we\nwas out touring trying to make our money. 'Cause\nour album didn't go gold or anything.\nDid you ever recieve any money from record\nsales?\nNaw naw. I mean they paid for the cabin that we\nstayed in buy I never saw an actual cheque for the\nalbum. Most of the money we made was from\nshows, that's why we do shows on the road.\nNo. Can't say I've seen any. I mean I've seen\nradio(play) cheques but none from the label.\nDo you know how many units you sold?\nWe don't even know, I mean it's been a total mystery.\nWho, if anybody, is the leader of the group?\nI don't know. It's like everybody hu to step up at\ncertain times because there's so many things to do\nlike interviews, the next person's gotta make a tape,\nthe next person's gotta run across town and try to\nget the equipment yaknowhati'msayin'. I can't even\nsay if one person does more than the other.\nDo you experience creative differences\nwithin the group?\nOh yeah definitely. But I don't really think that it's\na difference because if you got a project you wanna\ndo then you go ahead and do it and then present it\nto everyone. Then from there it can only be accepted or denied. You can't force anyone of us and\nsay, \"OK we're gonna do this song.\"\nyaknowhati'msayin'. I would never do that I would\nsay, 'To, help me out let's do this, let's make this\ndope.\" So we don't really have any differences. If\nthere's a difference then we'll just go ahead and do\nour own thing, like one person will do one song\nand one person will do one song. And you don't\neven have to be on it like I'm not on \"Runnin\"'.\nNot that I don't like it but I decided not to do it\nbecause I thought that it would be too long. Like\non the first album, we all wasn't rhymin' on the\nalbum all the time.\nWhat about lyrics, what sort of process do\nyou and the group go through?\nAs far as myself, I just try to say something instead\nof sayin' just ya know, flow like last time. When\nour first album was out everybody was checkin'\nfor flows like,'What's his flow like?\" Now that\ntime has passed, I mean since Nas came out and a\nlot of other things came out people started listening like, \"OK, you've gotta have some lyrics. Alright we're gonna try to kick some lyrics.\" So people are listening to what you have to say so now\nthat's what we try to do.\nYou don't think lyrics have always been important?\nI just think that it's more people now that listen to\nthe words. At one time people were just listening\nto the beat like,\"Oh that's a dope beat.\" That was\nit they'd listen to the MC and how he'd flow and\nthat's it But now people are like, 'What is he\nsayin'?\"\nnov\/dec 11 So, what's your definition of a real MC?\nI think you have to do a lot of things to call yourself an MC. I mean, you gotta be a professional at\nrockin' a stage, you gotta really know what to do.\nYou gotta know what to do if your turntables skip.\nA lot of people don't know. They just call them-\nse'-'es an MC 'cause they've got some verses in\ntheir backpack sayin', \"I'm an MC, I'm a rapper*'\nThat's u far u the tide of MC goes, you know...\nMovin* the Crowd, (chuckle) Mic Controller. Not\neverybody can do it\nIndeed. How much shit do you smoke before you get on stage?\nUmmm... I try not to 'cause that shit fucks with\nyour air. I mean, 111 do it later on during the show\n'cause sometimes I'll just be out of it and then say\nlike,\"What the fuck.\" But that shit is terrible for\nyou. And not only that it makes you tired during\nthe show. People can tell if you're tired, that shit\nlooks wack.\nI see. So have you ever had to battle anybody?\nI had somebody step to me in Atlanta. But it wu\ncool, yaknowhati'msayin', we got our little serye\non ai\"J he wu audi.\nLet's talk about the LA. Hip Hop scene because your group helped open the doors for\na lot of so called \"east coast oriented\" west\ncoast groups. It's all just real Hip Hop but\nyour group definitely had an impact one way\nor another.\nLA's scene is cool. I don't think we started anything new but we definitely opened it up. It's coo!\nI mean people are like, \"Yo that's cool\"\nyaknowhati'msayin', 'Whusup?\" you know... It's\nkinda cool because in LA. everybody knows everybody. It's not like the east cout where there's a\nlot of crews, a lot of people and a lot of beef and\nstuff like that There's not too much beef like that\nhere.\nWho do you see coming out strong from\nLA.?\nRas Kass is in the scene u far u up and coming\nand most people agree that he'll blow the spot\nYou know, that he's dope yaknowhati'msayin'?\nCause there's not too many people that everybody\ncan agree and just say, \"OK, he's dope\" and just\ngive it up to him.\nWhat happened to your homeboys the\nWascals and the Beatjunkies?\nBuckwheat's still around, he's workin' on his stuff.\nBut you know, it's like there's a time when real life\ncomes into play. It's just like, they're human and\nthings get caught up in all kinds of stuff. I don't\nknow, it just all fell through. I mean, they had an\nalbum and everything and they just fell apart at the\nseams and everything was no good after a while.\nIt wu terrible... terrible. You know, it happens.\nI happened to catch an episode of Beverly\nHills 90210 and saw Slim KidTre rhymin' with\nDavid Silver (aka Brian Austin Green).\nWhassup?\nI don't know. That's Tre's hook up man,\nknowhati'msayin*. Tre said... well never heard it.\nBut hey man, I don't know nuttin' about that\nyaknowhati'msayin'. (laughter) This is Booty\nBrown. I don't get down like that, (more laughter) I don't know! I mean, I met him... he's cool\nbut I'm sayin' I don't know. I never heard him rhyme,\nI can't really speak on it. He may be dope... (mad,\nmad laughter).\nAlright. On the song \"Drop\", you personally mention something about \"Keep It Real\"\nand \"Represent.\"\nThat's just the terms of today that just be pissin'\nme the fuck off all the time. It's because sometimes you'll meet someone and they'll be cool and\nbe the nicest person and you'll think\/They're not\nlike that\" Then they'll turn and say.'Yo! You gotta\nkeep it real kid!\" and then they'll go on stage and\ntalk about gats then they'll come back off stage\nand be like...whatever....yaknowhati'msayin'? Like,\nI just don't understand, they be totally confusin'\nThat's wack as fuck, I agree...\nI mean, I've seen enough shit go down and I'm tryin'\nto get out of this shit. I don't wanna see no more\nshit go down and I don't know why people be like,\n\"I'll always be down with ghetto.\" Fuck that man, if\nI can get the fuck out, I'm leavin',\nyaknowhati'msayin'. So I had the chance. So if I\ncan make things better, I will. For me and as far as\nthe group go too, you know.\nSo, your new album Labcabincalifornia, is\nabout to drop Who did the production on\nit?\nI did three songs.Tre did two, Fat Lip did one, this\nguy named J Dee outta Detroit did most of the\nsongs. He did some stuff on Busta Rhymes album\ntoo. We all did something. Diamond D did a\ntrack, \"Groupie Therapy.\"\nWas the song,\"Devil Music\" originally called,\n\"My Soul\"? What happened?\nIt was always \"Devil Music\". They changed it. They\nsaid it was too controversial. Yeah well, when we\ngot the record it said,\"My Soul\" and we were like,\n'What the fuck?\"\nThat shit is what the song's about in the first\nplace.\nExactly.\nThe new album is definitely \"new\" in every\nsense of the word. 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