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The Ubyssey Nov 13, 1980

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 Apathy rules
SUB proposal
The Alma Mater Society is pressing ahead with its plans to renovate
SUB despite failing to get quorum
at a special student council meeting
on the proposals Wednesday.
About eleven council members,
four below the required quorum,
showed up. AMS president Bruce
Armstrong said the proposals that
were to be discussed will be added
to the agenda of the regular council
meeting next Wednesday.
The meeting was to have discussed:
• an expenditure by the AMS of
$775,000 on roofing in the courtyard on the second floor of SUB to
provide space for a lounge and
AMS offices;
The meetings, attended by a total of
about 30 students, wi.:re mainly information meetings, said Armstrong.
"They were question and answer
sessions," he said. "You can't
debate (the proposals with only 20
or a dozen people."
Armstrong said a referendum on
whether to retain the $15 building
fee in order to pay th: costs of the
renovations would resolve the
debate on whether the proposals are
worthwhile. "The students will
decide that," he said.
The referendum will take place in
the the third week of J anuary, Armstrong said.
The referendum qu
divided into two t
students to separately
courtyard roof
underground mall. T
the alcove to the admi
be student council's d
strong said the referen
place in January bec<:
possible to get enougl
to students about it in
estion will be
larts,   asking
approve the
and      the
tie leasing of
nistration will
ecision. Arm-
dum will take
use it wasn't
he first term.
-gord wiabe photo
ARMSTRONG ... no one came
• an expenditure by the AMS of
$328,000 to construct an
underground plaza extending from
SUB out under Mclnnis field, and;
• leasing of the external alcove
on the east side of SUB to the
university administration's food
service for a total revenue of
The special council meeting
followed two public meetings on the
proposals last Friday and Monday.
The referendum vas originally
planned for the first term and was
to have included a third question on
the proposal for a south side centre.
The centre, a min -SUB with a
planned cost of $725,D00, is not being considered this teim, said Armstrong.
"The chief objection regarding
the south side centre is siting," he
said, referring to a meeting he had
with forestry and agriculture
students where strong objections to
the centre's site were   aised.
Should the problem of the
building's site be solved, Armstrong
said a separate referendum would
be held for it in Marcti.
"WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY ... my front end is falling off? No problem, I'll just slip my welding helmet on and
fix it up lickety-splitl If you'll just hold on to the door for me, I'll climb out the window and get my kit from the
trunk. I'm taking Auto Body 363, and I have to get the car together for my 8:30 class. I took the grill and front
bumper off last week, but we don't learn how to assemble them till next week. By the way, did you go to the
sports car club's slalom races on Sunday? I was supposed to enter them, but it was pissing rain and I didn't want
to get wet. My roof leaks, you see."
Vol. LXIII, No. 27
Vancouver, B.C. Thursday, November 13,1960
Tuition c'tee 'token gesture'
Student council's formation of a
special committee to battle tuition
fee increases is simply a "token
gesture," charged an Alma Mater
Society executive member.
Council formed the committee
last week primarily to fight the
UBC board of governor's policy of
indexing tuition fees to the universi-
Cap students fight fees
Canadian University Press
One in three students at North
Vancouver's Capilano College has
signed a petition circulated for two
days rejecting a new fee formula
which could mean an 83 per cent
tuition hike.
Student organizers have also been
distributing a leaflet criticizing the
provincial government for calling
for a massive fee increase while cutting back on $700,000 in funding to
the college.
And the student society has placed an advertisement in the student
newspaper listing the college's
board members with their home
telephone numbers. "In its continuing struggle for education," the ad
states, "the Capilano College student society urges you to inform
your college board what a student
is, and what a student really thinks
about the issues facing us all. It's
time to be heard."
Student organizer Kate Hendry
said Capilano, the only college of
seven in the lower mainland facing
the new formula, is being used as a
"test case."
"Students at other colleges can
look at what happens here and say,
'I want the same,' " she said. "But
if we blow it, it could have a really
heavy duty effect on other
Students plan to present the
1,100-signature petition to the college board. The petition calls for an
accessibility study on the effects of
the proposed increase.
"People are really pissed off,"
said Steve Shallhorn of the B.C.
Students' Federation. "We're
hopeful that (fee increases) can be
nipped in the bud. Students are
ready to fight it all the way."
Organizers are alsc
holding protest marcl
Meanwhile, collej
Paul Gallagher has wji
dent society to expeci
up to $700,000 next y
Gallagher said the
been cutting back ser
the next cuts will be m;
and staff salaries.
"Up to this point w
non-personnel things
You don't cut back nit
stuff on a half-million
les and mass
,e principal
med the stu-
cutbacks of
college has
/ices, so that
ide to faculty
e've cut back
quite a bit.
kel and dime
Gallagher said he blames the provincial government for the funding
shortfall, adding that, "Institutional autonomy has become an illusion" because of government's
Student society executive member
Stephen Howard said Gallgher and
the college board are as responsible
as the government for the deficit.
"You have to focus a lot of
negative attention on the government but the college board and
Gallagher are not representing the
college that well," Howard said.
"They said they'd work quietly in
the system but I think that's going
to ensure we don't receive proper
ty's operating budget. This policy
had already led to a 13 per cent fee
hike for next year.
Al Soltis, AMS external affairs
coordinator, said the policy is
grossly unfair and council should be
actively opposing it. But he said
after forming the committee, only
one other council member has
shown any interest in joining it.
He said he had hoped the committee would lead to a unified effort
on the part of council members to
continually oppose the board's fee
increase policies, but he is now
"They just don't seem to care,"
he said.
But Soltis said he was impressed
with the way students responded to
the new committee. One day after
the committee was formed, there
were already seven members.
But he said he is worried that
without support from council
members, the committee may not
be successful.
AMS president Bruce Armstrong
refuted Soltis' claims of student
council apathy. He said tution fee
increases are a very important issue
and he was sure council members
would step forward to join the committee at the next council meeting.
Armstrong said the committee
will be able to research fee increases
Carrels in time fer Christmas
No more hunching
Main. An end to wai
space for your pile o
Members of the sti
said Wednesday an ei
administration means
into Brock Hall in tin
Christmas exams.
Senate representati
meeting of the comm
president Erich Vogt
going back in because
were supposed to bef;
"We made an error i
.Vogt as saying.
down between close set stacks in
idering Sedgewick in search of a
if books. Brock Hall is back,
dent services advisory committee
ror in judgment by the university
study carrels will be moved back
ne for students to study for their
ve Chris Niwinski said that at a
ittee Nov. 5, administration vice
announced that the carrels were
renovations to Brock Hall which
in by now have been delayed.
n judgment," Niwinski reported
The administration removed the carrels before
classes began, announcing that Brock Hall was to be
renovated to accommodate student counselling offices. Due to delays the planned renovations will not
take place until March, Niwinski said.
Vogt gave no specific date for when the carrels
would be back in the study area, said board of
govenors representative Anthony Dickinson.
"No one asked for a date," he said.
Vogt was unavailable for comment.
Niwinski said if the carrels are not ready for use by
next Wednesday's student council meeting, then council should direct someone to approach the administration "and make damn sure they get in there."
and student aid all year long. He
said thei will prevent last-minute attempts to prevent fee increases,
such as took place this year.
He said next year, when he will
not have all the responsibilities of
presidency, he will probably join
the committee himself.
Armstrong said last week that the
AMS president's job was not to
fight fee increases.
High marks
hard to find
in commerce
thought you were making the smart
move going into commerce. But
you might not be as smart as you
Commerce students get lower
grades than other students according to a report published by the
department of institutional analysis
at the University of Manitoba.
For the past four years
students that have graduated with a
bachelor of commerce honors
degree have obtained lower median
grade point averages than the rest
of the total university degree
Commerce honors students'
GPAs suffer even more in comparison to those of honors degree
graduates in arts and science.
The commerce honors degree
holders at the University of
Manitoba consistently performed
25 to 30 per cent lower than the
university median while the arts
honors degree holders consistently
placed 40 per cent above the university norm over the four years.
Associate dean of science Nora
Loussey said science honour
students get higher marks because
the courses are "high pressure and
were likely to attract higher quality
See page 2: ARTS Page 2
Thursday, November 13,1980
'Arts students better
From page 1
Associate dean of arts Bev
Tangri also felt students in arts
honors courses were better students
than in some of the other degree
programs at the university.
Dean of commerce J. D. Mun-
die thought the reason for the low
performance of the commerce
students could be that the students
had to take a wide variety of
courses, and not all these "are in
the aptitude or interest of the
He pointed out that commerce
students must have a broad range of
knowledge which would preclude
the depth found in an arts or science
degree program.
"We are more demanding on
our students," Mundie said.
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Page 3
Kenny fights anarchy and chaos
UBC president Doug Kenny told
senate Wednesday night the university's academic schedule must be investigated because of its current
chaotic condition.
"We haven't had a review of the
scheduling of classes for 12 years,"
Kenny said.
He said scheduling has
deteriorated to the point that
"many faculties are operating
under sheer anarchy." He told
senate current methods of scheduling have led to very inefficient and
wasteful use of space.
He said the solution is probably
to begin registration earlier in the
year, and added, "if we (the administration) have to impose it to a
degree, we will."
The situation is so out of hand
student or faculty demands may
have to be set aside, Kenny said.
Kenny made the comments in
response to a report by the senate
ad hoc committee on examinatins
which recomend earlier registration
to allow for a longer study period
before final exams.
Senate passed the recommendation, plus others which will affect
exam scheduling.
Senate agreed that a study period
of at least two days (including
weekends) should take place after
the last day of classes. It also agreed
that faculties should attempt to
limit common exams.
The recommendation for a
minimum two day study period
originally called for a four to five
day period, but student senator Ian
Bakshi amended the motion.
Bakshi said he was worried an excessive study time may shorten the
exam period, which could be hard
on students.
"It's much better to spread the
examination period than to allow a
study period," he said. He said a
short exam period can lead to
students writing several exams in a
very short time.
Student senator Chris Niwinski
agreed, saying, "the one price
students are not willing to pay is
shortening the Christmas exam
Bakshi expressed concern that
students, including those who were
members of the exam committee,
had almost no input into the report.
Several senators were concerned
about the committee's recommendation for faculties to investigate
the necessity of common exams for
sections in each department.
Science dean Cy Finnegan said
common exams were often
necessary to prevent some students
from taking an exam before other
students write an identical exam.
WE ARE, WE ARE . . . oops, wrong song. Loud people, advocating use
of bionics in oral sex, ed protest march from sail research laboratory on
West Mall to SUB, whore they harassed guilty bystanders before storming
staid offices of The Ubyssey. Artsy on left carries placard advertising
another exciting debauch, but his debark was worse than his debauch.
-stuart davis photo
Militants carrying sign at centre later revealed themselves as RCMP infiltrators investigating allegations of bestiality between two UBC student
clubs and extraterrestrials. No charges were laid, though participants com
plained of sore jaws and aching joints. Other sports action saw Science
Fiction club take on Debating society in battle of wits.
Discrimination still plagues Indians
The struggle to entrench native treaty rights in the constitution continues, but Steve Pooyak of the Federation of Saskatchewan Indians is
pessimistic about the o itcome.
Canadian Indians ae currently
receiving only about 15 per cent of
the rights guaranteed them by treaty, Pooyak said. He cite d education
and economic development on reserves as two priorities of native organizations in the province.
Pooyak said education facilities
on the reserves are deteriorating
rapidly — particularly in the far
He called affirmative action programs for natives "band-aid" programs, saying they do not reduce
the prejudice in society and discrimination still occurs even where there
Hacks back Press
ST. CATHARINES, Ont. (CUP) — The Brock University student union
is supporting the campus newspaper's bid for autonomy.
"The union is backing The Press all the way," said Cheryl Maclntyre,
director of publications and communications and editor-in-crtief of The
Press in 1979-80.
A referendum will be held Nov. 24-26 to ask Brock students to approve a
direct per student levy of $3.50 per course for The Press, effective 1981-82.
The Press is currently published and financed by the student union.
Under the autonomy proposal, the students would directly finance the
Negotiations have been under way between Press editor Br an Smylski
and the student union for over six months. According to Maclntyre, arrangements have been made for The Press to give the council free advertising space for the next two or three years to pay for typesetting and other
production equipment.
Maclntyre says the council is supporting the autonomy bid because it has
been unable to adequately finance other campus activities, such as Radio
Brock, clubs and entertainment, while financing the campus newspaper.
Brock students currently pay $5 per course to the student union. With an
autonomous newspaper, the students taking a full course load would pay
$25 to the union and an additional $16.50 to The Press.
Maclntyre said she is hopeful The Press will win the referendum. "If
people get out and vote, then we'll get it," she said.
are affirmative action programs.
Pooyak emphasized the need to
supply natives with "the best possible training" in order to equip
them to find jobs.
He said native attempts to lobby
British members of parliament prior
to constitutional discussions in September were aimed at obtaining a
right of input into the talks.
But he said, "realistically, I don't
think the government is going to listen to us."
Pooyak said the need for entrenchment of treaty rights in any
reformed constitution is great. Any
attempts by the federal government
to delegate its constitutional responsibility "for natives and land
reserved for natives to provincial
agencies would be rejected by native
organizations across Canada."
Pooyak added that natives sympathize with the struggle of the
Quebecois to have their cultural
rights entrenched in the constitution. When asked whether natives
should receive equal or greater constitutional consideration, he
replied, "Well, we were here first."
Foreigners' fee hike tabled
A resolution calling for the implementation of differential tuition
fees for foreign students was tabled
for further study by delegates to the
annual Social Credit party convention last weekend.
After a spirited debate that seemed to indicate the resolution would
easily pass, delegates instead voted
to table and obtain further information on the subject. The resolution,
which called for a two-tiered system
of tuition fees at B.C. universities,
colleges and other educational institutes, could be reintroduced at
next year's convention.
"The universities are filled up
with foreigners and our own children can't get into them," one delegate claimed. Said another of the
resolution: "We're not saying we're
going to discriminate against foreign students — we're just going to
give our children first choice."
But not all the delegates agreed.
"I've never met anyone who has
been denied entry into university
because of foreign students," said
one delegate who identified himself
as a Simon Fraser University student. "This would be a backward
step," said another. One speaker
pointed out that foreign students
make up a very small percentage of
the overall student population and
added that their presence enhances
the academic and cultural atmo
sphere of the universities.
According to the Canadian Bureau for International Education in
Ottawa, foreign students total
about 4.5 per cent of the student
population in post-secondary education.
Universities minister Pat McGeer, who has stated in the past
that he is considering imposing differential tuition fees, did not speak
on the resolution, which was not
binding on the government.
Debate ponders KKK
Self-defence takes precedence
over freedom of speech, Allan Soroka, UBC committee against racist
and fascist violence chairperson,
said at Monday's supermouth debate.
Soroka took on debating society
president Richard Clark on the
topic, The Klu Klux Klan has no
right to speak, before 120 people in
the SUB auditorium.
"They're a bunch of loonies,"
said Soroka. "It's hard to find anything lower than the KKK." The
KKK has no right to exist, let alone
speak, he said.
"You can't remove freedom in
order to preserve freedom," responded Clark. "I make no defence
for the Klan, of its actions or policies. They are a despicable bunch.
Yet freedom of speech is
The KKK is attacking all non-
white Canadians, said Soroka.
"Should we take these attacks lying
down, or should we organize ourselves and take action?" he said.
"We all should have the right of
There are laws which apply to the
KKK, said Clark. If the KKK do
anything illegal, they should be
taken to court like anybody else.
Yet to take away their freedom of
speech and drive them into secrecy
would be a mistake, he said.
"It's like a monster in a hole. I'd
rather bring the monster out into
the open, where we can chop off its
head, than to keep it in its hole,
where it can grow," he said.
"The KKK's greatest victory
would be for us to renounce our beliefs," he added.
"The problem in Canada requires that we use every method
available for self-defence," said
Soroka. "If someone attacks you, it
is proper for you to defend
yourself." The KKK is attacking all
non-white Canadians, and they
should defend themselves, Soroka
said. Page 4
Thursday, November13, 1960
No debate needed
They used to be described as "human" or "inalienable" and the effort
of society was to increase their domain, and decrease the domain of
The word which seems to be used far too much these days when
speaking of rights is "debatable". Should fascists have the right to speak?
Should the KKK? Should blacks and orientals have the right to freedom
from fear?
Borrowing some questions from the last board of governors meeting:
Do students have the right to a fair and honest hearing over their concerns?
Do the less advantaged in our society have a right to post-secondary
Then there's some from student council: Does the Association of Student Councils have the right to present its views to council? Do students
have the right to speak about how their money is spent?
We have a question of our own. What makes people think these rights
are subject to debate?
It is disturbing that there are those on campus who would seriouly advocate denying free speech to anyone in our society. Groups such as the
KKK, or the Marxist-Lennists, cannot be denied free right of speech
though we can prevent them from imposing their beliefs on others.
That is the prime rule, to not impose your beliefs on others. Trying to
determine for others what their rights are is the same thing.
Rather than casting around for someone to restrict or shut up, we
should be looking for ways to increase everyone's freedom.
We could be working on the right to accessibility to education for all,
right of native people to their lands and livelihood, the right of freedom
from want for our poor.
The road to having the rights we do have is a hard one, millenia long.
There's no reason turning backwards now.
. J** ■
Something's rotten . . .
I enjoyed reading the Freestyle article entitled
"Hypocrisy only winner in tuition fee farce" in The
Ubyssey, Nov. 6. It was a humorous and amusing
adventure into the nether reaches of Shakespearean
However, there is one thing wrong with the freestyle; me portrayed as Hamlet, yet at the same time
casting me as a dastardly villain out to shackle the
unwary student to the horrifying (gasp!) effects of
inflation, burdening them with the experience of
the Vancouver Consumer Price Index, plus one per
cent "for good measure." As Hamlet would say:
"Something is rotten in the state of Denmark;" or
in this case UBC.
It is true that I am proposing to index tuition fees
to the Vancouver Consumer Price Index, and not to
the proposed expenditures of the university in the
present fiscal year. If the board of governors were
to index fees lo inflation, not the university budget,
it would still mean the annual review of tuition fees
and the annual decision to raise or not to raise the
fees (it's the Hamlet in me again).
I simply put it across to the board that should the
board go with indexing fees to inflation, it would
have the ability to raise fees by up to the Vancouver
price index plus one per cent, not do it automatically.
There's another item Bill Tieleman neglected in
the Freestyle. That is, setting a maximum increase
for any one given year. In case you have forgotten,
the initial maximum would be set at 11 per cent. So,
if inflation for the Vancouver area were to take off
and jump 30 per cent in one year, the maximum increase that the board would impose would still be
11 per cent.
Alternatively, if inflation for the Vancouver area
were to increase two per cent in one year, the maximum increase that the board would impose would
be three per cent. You see, it's a two-prong maximum.
To continue, if the board were to adopt the proposal, it would also mean that no student would
pay a differential percentage increase. Next year,
for example, third and fourth year science students'
tuition fees are increasing by a larger percentage
than the first year science students' fees.
Under the Vancouver Consumer Price Indexing
formula, every student would pay the same increase. It's stabilizing everyone. Everyone would
pay the same percentage increase; no favorites or
To index or not to index is not the question. The
point is to index the fees to something reasonable,
something that the student, and everyone else for
that matter, could understand, with a maximum increase in any one year through two means: one is a
set maximum (initially 11 per cent); and, the second
is the floating maximum (inflation plus one per
To conclude, just one more thing. It is:
"Who would this endure,
But for a hope of something after death,
Which puzzles the brain and doth confound the
Which makes us rather bear those evils we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of?"
—Shakespeare's Hamlet
Bruce Armstrong
AMS president
Bad writing bad
AAARGHH ... 1 surrender .
please someone — STOP.
1 have finally had enough of this
drivel. Is there anyone out there
capable of writing something
without sounding like a fanatic? Is
there not a reasoning, tolerant
human anywhere in this heap of
academic rubble?
We started off. with Kurt
Prankspurter (what's in a name
anyway?) telling us about religion
and logic (and supposedly giving us
a picture of an idealized atheist).
Now we have Ross Burnett telling
us that CITR is a great station.
Why do I feel like I just got out of
the wrong side of bed? Seriously
now — I was at a residence beer nite
with CITR providing the 'music'.
They obviously do not realize that
music has something to do with harmony of sounds.
While I'm peeved I might as well
ask a question that's been bugging
me a lot lately. Why are the words
'bzzr' and 'whyne' used in posters
instead of the correctly spelled
An acquaintance of mine saic
it was some legal nonsense. This
seems implausible — since when l
it illegal to spell words correctly? Ii
seems more likely that we have a
conspiracy of English 100 dropouts
who are trying to pervert our
wonderful   language.
And now for a personal note. It
has come to my attention (this
doesn't happen very often) that the
ranks of non-conformists have been
dropping alarmingly in the last little
while. By a non-conformist, I mean
someone who has (by whatever
means) escaped the tragic rituals of
the mass of our society.
Eclecticism is dying as the majority of people on this campus try
to fit in. To turn back the insidious
tide of normality, I suggest that
non-conformists come together to
fight for a more decent world.
How about a non-conformists'
club? Anyone with any suggestions,
criticisms, et cetera can write to our
beloved campus rag.
Ted Longstaffe
computer science 4.5
Circus avoided in election forum
The record must be set straght on
a letter to The Ubyssey last week
from Marguerite Ford accusing the
UBC law union of "silencing" her
during a forum on the upcoming
Vancouver election.
The meeting was set up as a panel
discussion with four invited guests,
persons the law union felt supported progressive change for the
city of Vancouver. They included
Harry Rankin, Bruce Eriksen, Mike
Harcourt and Stan Persky.
The   forum   was   not   an   all-
Help victim
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strayed this far down the page, to
ask for your assistance. I'm trapped
in a tiny Klein bottle up here in
Lawrenciumville, the unfortunate
victim of Science Run Amuck. Oh
the pain.
Richard Burton
(nee Steve McQueen)
Lawrenciumville Metachemical
candidate meeting, nor was it billed
or advertised as such. No one was
being "silenced."
The reason for our format was
twofold. First, it was to provide a
forum for discussion of progressive
issues such as a ward system, city involvement in non-profit housing,
affordable mass transit, adequate
funding for community services,
etc. The NPA and TEAM voting
record on these issues has ranged
from inconsistent wishy-washiness
to overt sabotage — hence, they
were not invited.
The second reason was to avoid
the three-ring circus atmosphere of
an all-candidates' meeting that
could conceivably include 30 or
more candidates, a situation created
by Vancouver's lack of a full ward
system. (Marguerite Ford has never
supported a full ward system.)
The UBC law union is a "partisan" body. Damn right! We support the COPE platform and encourage students to vote for all the
COPE aldermanic candidates including Harry Rankin, Bruce
Eriksen,   Bruce   Yorke  and   Jean
Swanson; and also Mike Harcourt
for mayor.
We do not believe in silencing
anybody, and we hope that on election day, November 15, all of Vancouver will get out there and be
David Lane
UBC law union
Hat's off!
I have found, several times,
"blue meanie paper" on my windshield.
My situation at CITR requires
that I park near SUB, often illegally. On Monday I spoke to a Mr.
Smith, director of traffic and security. My only comment is this, if all
the blue meanies were like the extremely helpful Mr. Smith students
would sing the praises of law enforcement.
Hats off to Mr. Smith, one individual who is active in helping
students at UBC.
S. Scherer
arts 2
Duck to strike back
Finally, recognition.
We really appreciate Eric Eggertson's review of Horizons in The Ubyssey
Nov. 7. The next issue, which hits the stands in a week or two, will have
many more illustrations and, of course, the Duck will strike back.
We're hoping to improve the format and printing, but, as always, we're
desperate for cash. We're also desperate for stories, art work, anything.
As long as people keep reading it, we'll continue putting it out, and we
appreciate your support. Thanks. Dgvjd Woodburj
Steve Wodz
Richard Bartrop
UBC sci-fi club
November 13, 1980
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the
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AMS or the university administration. Member, Canadian
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Editor: Verne McDonald
On his way to class this morning a most unusual thing happened to grey eminence Bill Tieleman.
As he descended below the clouds he saw, just west of loco, a stuttering student, one Nancy Campbell. The horror of it was that Smilin' Bill could do nuthin to avoid the encounter. Continuing due west
he flew over Eric Eggertson's bedroom, but could see nuthin for all the junk. Next Bill darted over to
Kitzilano where Verne McDonald was doing calisthenics and tantric meditation. Passing over Dunbar,
Flyin Bill saw Glen Sanford fast asleep. Jo-anne Falkiner and Gray McMullen waved to good ol' Bill, as
he headed in for a landing at SUB control. He landed on the roof safely enough, but was moved down
in his prime by Gord Wiebe and Stuart Davis, the darkroom hit squad. Poor Bill. A wake, complete
with beer, will be held for him Friday at noon. People interested in writing for this venerated rag should
attend and drink free sudz. ^ ^ Thursday, Novbember 13,1960
Page 5
Changes for the worse threaten UBC area
I urge both students and faculty
of UBC to become aware of what is
happening and what is going to
happen to the campus and the area
surrounding it. Some of the proposals, disguised under the name of
"progress," are really detrimental
to the natural quality of one of the
most beautiful sites for a university
campus anywhere in the world.
One of these changes proposed
for the future of our university is
the demolition of all of the Main
Library (the second oldest building
on the campus) except for the small
original entrance concourse and
card catalogue core of the building.
They want to build a brand new
central library where the Main Library is now, as well as two completely new two floor extensional
wings (one from the north end, one
from the south end) linking it with
Sedgewick Library.
Not only would this replace the
building that gives this university
more character than any other of its
buildings, but it would alio deprive
us of the open space between the
two libraries, which is now used for
nicely landscaped garden areas on
either side of the walkway connecting Main and Sedgewick.
A second change to the university
Acadia camp not all bad
In response to an article in The Ubyssey Oct. 30 which accused the
university's housing office of being a slum landlord, we would like to point
out that during the past year a number of huts in Acadia camp have been
renovated with respect to wiring, plumbing and new floors at a cost to the
housing department which is not likely to be recovered by this year's rental
Your anonymous informer makes the ridiculous charge of possible
reprisals for openly condemning the housing department. It should be
pointed out that if all conditions of occupancy are met by the tenant, that
this occupancy goes unchallenged for the duration of the lease.
We feel that the article misrepresented the overall condition of the camp;
this could have been avoided if Mr. Sanford had done his job properly
and had based his article on more than one tenant of the camp
Gail Bexton
Robert Ree
Acadia Camp  Tenants' Association
It's splitsville, babe
An organization has been formed
on campus to promote British Columbian independence. As it is nonpartisan in nature anyone can join.
All ideologies and political persuasions are welcome — left, right and
centre. British Columbia's future is
a truly non-partisan issue which
should override in importance all
other considerations.
You can't have a foot on the
dock and a foot in the boat; no one
can be a patrotic Canadian and still
be a true supporter of British Columbia at the same time.
We owe Quebec and Ontario
nothing, either morally or materially, yet they continue to rule us for
their own profit. British Columbia
has housing and agricultural land
shortages, massive unemployment,
forced bilingualism, and dictated
'equalization' payments, in addition to Ottawa's constant encroachment upon our natural resources.
We haven't even got the capacity to
feed our own people. And it will get
worse unless we act now.
All of these problems can be solved by controlling the direction of
growth in British Columbia.
You're not "greedy" if you want
to control your land and life. It is
only natural that the people living
in a country should have it run for
their own benefit and not for the
enrichment of outsiders. Join the
British Columbia national committee and make yourself heard — it is
your duty to do so.
Contact Chris Fulker at
Chnis Fulker
British Columbia
national committee
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area is the proposed building of a
"berm" on Wreck beach. Anyone
who enjoys walking on this beach in
its beautiful natural state should do
so very soon, since this beach is going to be altered by an engineering
firm (will it be this spring?) so the
waters from the Strait of Georgia
cannot erode the sand cliffs at Point
Grey as Mothe Nature would have
them do.
A berm is a fiat, elevated structure which raises the land to a
height high enough so the waves
don't erode the base of the cliffs.
This would be an artificial structure
which would bury the natural beach
a considerable depth below what
will be the "man-made" beach.
It will need to be a considerable
height because the waves from
winter storms off the strait reach
two metres at times as they come
crashing in. If the cliffs are gradually being eroded by the waves,
then that is what is intended and
shouldn't be interfered with by
what a handful of people think "we
ought to do."
A third upcoming change to the
university area is the proposal of
trolley wires along University
Boulevard so we can have old rickety trolley buses coming to the university to help us out with the problem of not having buses running often enough for the number of students that use them.
By installing those green metal
poles and trolley wires along University Boulevard most all the silver
maple trees along the boulevard will
have to be severely pruned back —
frankly, I don't know how they
could do it without chopping trees
down — so that we can, when we
look up into the sky there, feel like
we're caged in animals a la Broadway.
Not only that, but to do this
would require the closing off of vehicle traffic on the boulevard for
who knows how long, the better
part of a year anyway. And the end
result would be one lane going each
way with one or two old trolley
buses coming out each hour of bus
service. Obviously this is not what is
needed. What we need are simply
more diesel buses coming to the university more often, and no change
to be made to University Boulevard.
These are three changes being
planned to be made to the university and its surrounding area in the
near future. And if no one opposes
them either by letter or organized
lobbying, whether by student
bodies or by active protest, then in a
few years when you're observing
the changes that will have been
made, you'll say to yourself, "hey,
I never knew this was going to happen to the place; somebody should
have tried to stop it before it happened."
Eric Robinson
philosophy 3
The Ubyssey welcomes letters
from all readers.
Although an effort is made to
publish all letters received, The
Ubyssey reserves the right to edit
letters for brevity, legality and taste.
Now you're
talkin'taste. Page 6
Thursday, November 13, 1980
'Tween classes
Jeff Boerger speaks on a biblical basis for social
involvement, noon, Chem. 250.
Women's trtudtes program visiting speakers pro-
gram: Dr. Barbara Monter, UBC Slavonic
studies, sfeaks on The Real Russian Heroine,
noon, Buch. 202.
Speaker series; Exploring nature of evil. Joe
Richardson, religious studies, speaks on A Hindu
Perspective, noon, SUB 215.
Supermou1 h debaters vs. Commerce on The Average Commerce Student Would Sell His Grandmother to the Arabs, noon, SUB auditorium.
Supermou'h debaters vs. CITR on Does CITR
Really    Exist?    Noon,    SUB    auditorium.
Third film in sharing the experience series: June,
noon, IRC B.
General rra*ting, noon, SUB 211.
Kim Roberts, director West Coast environmental
law association, speaks on environmental law in
B.C., noon, SUB 207.
Organizational meeting on Ralph Nader, Public
Interest Research Group (PIRG) and committee
reports, noon, SUB 207.
Public meeting, noon, SUB 212A.
Dr.  Poland-Grzybows speaks on obstetrics and
gynecology, noon, IRC 1.
Film   night:   All   That   Jazz,   6:30   p.m.,   SUB
Video taping session, 7:30 p.m., second floor
Mineral Engineering Building.
Regular practice, beginners welcome, 7:30 p.m.,
Winter Sports Complex gym E.
Stammtisch.   German   conversational   evening,
7:30 p.m., International House.
Marxist literature and discussion, 11:30 a.m. to
1:30 p.m., SUB main concourse.
Ralph Nader and Public Interest Research Group
(PIRG)   organizational  meeting, noon, SUB 211.
Women's Health Collective presents historical
and practical information on birth control, noon,
Bible study, noon, Lutheran Campus Centre.
Russian   conversation   practise,   noon,   Buch.
Business meeting, noon, SUB 115.
Professor Robert Hollander, chairman of comparative literature at Princeton, speaks on
Dante's Vergil: Tragedy in the Comedy, noon,
Buch. 104.
Beer and pizza night, everyone welcome, 6 p.m.,
SUB party room.
Men's squash tourney, 10 a.m. to 6:30 p.m.,
Saturday and Sunday, Thunderbird Winter
Sports Centre. Registration deadline Nov. 13,
WMG 203.
Guest speaker discusses sailing theory, everyone
welcome, noon, SUB 111.
Eucharist noon, Lutheran Campus Centre.
Presentation on Peru, noon, Buch. 218.
Singing, prayer, and fellowship meeting, noon,
SUB 211.
Potluck dinner followed by discussion, 5:30
p.m., Lutheran Campus Centre.
Bpoedi unsafe?
Try Roberts
Are you unsafe at any speed? Do
you have trouble diffentiating between a sanitary landfill and Ford's
Oakville plant? Perhaps you need a
regulated dose of concern for the
environment and an informed, intelligent discussion of concerns
relevant to the concerned student
and the concerned populace.
Then again you could see Kim
Roberts, cirector of the West Coast
Environmental Law Assoc, speak
on environmental law in B.C. in
SUB 117 at noon today.
The Environmental Interest
Group will sponsor this event which
includes discussion of Ralph Nader
and Public Interest Research Group
Heal heroine
An incensed crowd shouts out its
incredulity   "But what about the
Hot flashes
real Russian Heroine?" they ask. A
long, Dostoyevskian pause ensues,
during which only one reasoned
voice can be heard mumbling above
the hum of air conditioners in plush
Buchanan 202.
Rising above societal differences.
Dr. Barbara Monter, Slavoic
Studies, elucidates all that is
unclear in far-off Buchanan today
at noon. Will the real Russian
heroine please speak up.
Sneer hell
Little did Dante know he chose
Vergil as his guide that he would be
transported through sheer hell.
Dante's dissent, one of the least
discussed topics of medieval study,
takes on an entirely different look in
the cool analytical process of 20th
century thought.
Though Vergil's primary problem
over the years has been to get his
name spelled properly, the Leon
and Thea Koerner foundation will
sponsor a lecture by Professor
Robert   Hollander,    chairman   of
Comparative Lit. at Princeton on
the topic, Dante's Vergil: tragedy in
the comedy. Professor Hollander's
talk is part of the medieval studies
workshop '80. Hollander speaks at
noon on Friday in Buchanan 104.
Test feasting
You may not believe you look
and sound so stupid, but then again
this may be your one opportunity to
realise the fame and fortune you've
coveted for years. Yes, this once in
a lifetime happening could change
the course of your life, if you've got
the guts to come and test yourself
against the camera, which we all
know does not lie.
The Toastmasters of UBC meets
every Thursday night, but tonight
only there will be a videotaping session in Mineral Engineering Bldg.,
2nd floor, from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m.
Interested people are welcome,
but please, no kinky costumes, no
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Page 7
Discovery Parks are unfair
Science and technology minister Pat McGeer smiled widely as he stared down at the
miniature six-inch robot he operated under
remote control. The robot, grasping one end
of a bright red ribbon in one claw, obediently
whirred across the stage.
What better way to open the second Discovery Fair, an exhibition of science controlled by scientists, than by breaking the ceremonial ribbon with only the slightest of human involvement? With his philosophy, McGeer had reason to smile.
The robot continued on its path. At the
moment of truth, as it was about to pull the
ribbon from its lightly taped mooring, it lost
the technological tug-of-war, falling grotesquely backward; a mechanical Charlie Brown
losing to a ribbon instead of a football.
McGeer's embarrassed aide scrambled to
right the prone robot. The second time
around, technology wasn't left to chance.
The surreptitious hand of man intervened to
drop the tape at the appropriate moment.
A tour of the 55 exhibitors' visions of the
future at Robson Square Centre last week
showed that little R2D2 (for research and development year 2) was not the only technological marvel to fall flat on its ass.
"We hope that what you see this year,"
McGeer said to open the fair, "will be a forerunner of what you will see in the future."
B.C. Telephone has an expensive display
depicting the future capabilities of a computer link to the home phone. Hooked up to
a television screen, the telephone will display
bus and airline schedules, sale prices in supermarkets, teach macrame or cooking, deliver
university lectures, send messages which now
go through the mail, do banking, work out
budgets, help kids with their home work and
will even play a mean game of chess. Thinking about the capabilities boggles the mind.
So does the fact the link means human thinking could become secondary to the machine's
Canada Manpower had a bilingual and
talkative computer on display, called
choices. It suggests possible careers by a
process of elimination, using interests and
dislikes as criteria.
One young woman who plugged into the
computer was given seven suggestions for careers, two of those in the military. I fared little better. One of my career choices was as a
personnel selection officer in the military.
Perhaps the computer knows more about the
implications of high technology society than
the rest of us.
The mechanical mind also had a difficult
time reconciling my personal convictions
with my current occupation. Asked why a
career as a newspaper reporter was not in the
computer's cards, it replied that one of my
interests was working to improve the social
conditions of others "which I don't feel really fits this occupation."
A display of UBC's TRIUMF (Tri-Univer-
sity Meson Facility) nuclear research project
had a significant message tacked up on the
wall behind it. From pioneer nuclear physicist Ernest Rutherford, it read: "I am doubtful ... whether the most imaginative
scientific man i; able to foresee the result of
any discovery." That profound statement
comes from an era when scientists were socially conscious. At the fair, only the career
computer seems to understand all the military
implications of technology.
The only overtly military booth in the fair
was tucked away in a far corner of displays.
Belonging to the Defense Research Establishment Pacific, the booth had a continuously-
running video tape explaining its innocous research in preventing corrosion of ship propellers and monitoring engine wear through
the analysis of oil sediment.
Their anti-submarine program also includes a somewhat-obscene placement of
listening devices in the barren Arctic ocean,
as well as the maintenance of posts in the
high Arctic to further their research in the
field. The irony is not lost that one post is on
the island where a cairn commemorates Sir
John Franklin's arrival before his "last fatal
push into the unknown."
Toys as scientific ingenuity, or vice versa,
is the apparent purpose of the Science Centre
display. It is the lack of a permanent centre
for the masses of lay people to wonder at the
marvel of science which has convinced McGeer to hold the Discovery fairs.
The display includes a laser which traces a
spirograph-like design on a tabletop after being deflected by two mirrors. The visual image is fascinating. Hordes of prepubescents
jostle for position to stare at this ultimate of
video games.
One of SFU's contributions was a computer animation display e>'en more fascinating
than the lasers. A face appears first from just
a blur on the screen, then distorts and recom-
bines. A tongue slides out of the mouth, de:
taches, floats around the screen, turns into
an eye and finally finds its place in the middle
of the forehead. It is B. Kliban cartooning on
acid. Sudden, vibrating colors surround the
face, and the middle eye winks as the face
cracks up and dissolves.
The adjacent booth had a display depicting
the testing of LSD on a cat. The cat freaked
out. Then the scientists selected an elephant
to act as a guinea pig, divided its mass by that
of the cat, then gave the elephant an LSD hit
multiplied by that factor. In a simple, yet
pitiful, obituary, the display explains that
"the elephant, trumpeted, defecated and
died." What this means for drugs, technol
ogy or anything else is left to the imagination.
Of course one of the major displays was
the one of McGeer's personal dream, the Discovery Parks. Included were scale models of
the parks to be built at the B.C. Institute of
Technology and SFU.
Besides the models was a video tape of McGeer with SFU president George Pedersen,
UBC chancellor Jack Valentine Clyne, and
University of Victoria president Howard
"Everyone will benefit from the Discovery
Parks like the way they did when Alexander
Bell gave us the telephone," McGeer said. He
cited the Stanford research park, which
spawned the famous Silicon Valley, as a
model for the Discovery Parks.
"We want all of you to work with us either
inside the parks or in the industrial future
which will flow from that outside the parks.
Help us to build British Columbia. It's going
to be great in the future," McGeer said.
Clyne said that there is a new industrial
revolution coming which "will have as much
effect as the old industrial revolution."
Fairgoers could ponder afterwards,
wondering how these supposed benefits
should be distributed. What about those who
can't afford telephones, let alone computers
to hook them up to?
They could think about this as they waited
for the bus and while they spent an hour getting across town on the 30-year-old mechanical beast.
Think about it when you read a newspaper, when you don't wonder what the future holds, but whether technology allows the
future to be.
Peter Francis writes for the Simon Fraser
University paper, the Peak, but we don't
hold it against him. Perspectives is a column
of opinion, analysis and some times humor
open to all members of the university community and some times others outside the
university. Submissions should be typed
triple-spaced on a 70 space line, one side of
the page only. Neatness and correct spelling
are appreciated when possible.
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Thursday, November 13,1980
nat'l champs
-Stuart davis photo
CLASSIC CLAN CONFRONTATION . . . pterodactyl-like Clansmen swoop down on local 'Birds attempting to
protect recently-laid egg in Buchanan classic Saturday night. Prehistoric creatures from forest on Burnaby
Mountain vanquished valiant local team 85-75.
Thunderbirds not so classic
Once again the Simon Fraser
University Clansmen dominated the
annual Buchanan Classic basketball
game and defeated the UBC
Thunderbirds 85-75.
The 'Birds played well before a
large and vocal crowd but did not
manage to overcome the Clan's
height advantage. The game was
fairly close, with the two teams
coming within four points of each
other in one instance. The score was
42-34 at the half.
Because of the Clansmen height
advantage, UBC was forced to
shoot from outside and did so with
some success. Andy Lockhart of
UBC was effective with his outside
shots and scored 12 points.
UBC's  Bob  Forsyth,   the  6'5"
centre, was the top point-getter for
the 'Birds with 25 points. Steve
Murphy, an SFU forward, was the
game's top scorer with 26 points.
According to UBC coach Peter
Mullins, the main difference between the two teams was shooting
ability. UBC managed only 33
baskets out of 87 attempts. "That's
a very poor showing," said Mullins.
"We only sank 38 per cent of the
The 'Birds defense, led by John
Stark, played exceptionally well.
Kim O'Leary, in addition to collecting 10 points, was effective in forcing turnovers. The offensive line
was given enough scoring opportunities   to   win   the   game,   but
couldn't seem to take advantage of
In Senior A Dogwood League
play the Thunderbirds defeated
Henderson Realty 95-83 on Friday
The 'Birds travel to Victoria this
weekend to take part in the Viking
Tip-Off Tournament.
The Thunderette field hockey
team returned from Toronto this
weekend with the Canadian national championships in hand.
Playing against teams from the
universities of Toronto, New
Brunswick, York, Brandon, and
McGill, the Thunderettes returned
in first place in the Canadian In-
teruniversity Athletic Union.
UBC edged the York University
Yeowomen 1-0 in a difficult final
on Sunday. According to coach
Gail Wilson all the Thunderettes
played exceptionally well against
York's strong attacking team. The
fact that York is coached by the National Team coach, Marina
vanderMerwe, and the fact that the
Thunderettes won on York's home
grounds made the win even more
In the preliminary games of the
round robin tournament, UBC
began by defeating McGill 5-0 in an
easy win. The last time the
Thunderettes went to the nationals
they began the same way but were
defeated the rest of the weekend.
This year UBC went on to tie the
University of New Brunswick 2-2 in
an extremely difficult game. UNB
was an unknown quantity to the
Thunderettes and overpowered
them offensively.
Friday night, in the pouring rain,
UBC came up against Brandon
University and walked all over them
for a final score of 8-0. Brandon
had received an automatic entry as
the only member of the Great
Plains Athletic Conference .
The best game of the weekend
took place Saturday morning when
UBC played York. The Thunderettes lost 2-1, but controlled the
game. Because Robyn Sinclair, one
of the more experienced defenders
for UBC, was out with the flu,
Wilson switched from her usual link
system to a 4-4-2 set-up. "The
change of strategy was one of the
factors in our ultimate success,"
said Wilson.
Continual use of the new strategy
helped UBC to a 1-0 win over the
formidable University of Toronto
team later Saturday. U of T went on
to an unexpected loss at the hands
of UNB.
This caused a tie for second place
between UBC and UNB. A 15
minute playoff ended with UBC
ahead 1-0 on a goal by Dana
Sinclair. This gave UBC the second
and final playoff spot.
Sinclair scored the lone goal in
the final on a penalty corner shot
after the ball had been hit out by
UBC's Anne Crofts.
UBC players Dana Sinclair,
Robyn Sinclair and Mary Reid were
named to the Tournament Eleven.
Other members of UBC's championship team are: Lee Clare, Arlyn
Copithorne, Anne Crofts, Terri
Draine, Bev Kelly, Susan MacDonald, Alison Palmer, Carol
Pedlar, Sally Sherwood, Kathy
Thom, Wendy Westermark and
Janis Wilson.
('Bird droppings)
The hockey Thunderbirds played
two games against the University of
Alberta last weekend in Edmonton,
the 'Birds were outplayed 7-2 on
Friday night. Goal scorers for UBC
were Jim Allison and Rob Jones.
The 'Birds lost again on Saturday
night but the game was much more
closely fought.
According to coach Bert
Halliwell the play was closer than
the 6-3 score indicated, with Alberta's last goal into an empty net. Bill
Hollowaty, Jim McLaughlin and
Jim Allison all got on the
scoreboard for UBC.
*     »     •
The women's ice hockey
Thunderettes defeated Kitsilano 5-1
in a fast-paced game played Sunday
at the Thunderbird Winter Sports
Centre. Kathy Forward scored
twice for UBC while Mama
Mueller, Linda McDonald and
Dianne Mitchell each notched one
Competing in the sixth annual
Husky Relays at the University of
Washington Friday, both the
Thunderbird and Thunderette swim
teams finished third behind teams
from     the     Universities     of
Washington and Puget Sound.
Four men and four women from
UBC bettered the C.I.A.U. qualifying times in this meet. According to
coach Jack Kelso this is an indication that UBC will be sending
strong teams to the Nationals in
Outstanding in the relays for
UBC were Karen Van Sacker, Julie
Rainey, Bruce Nicholson, and Mike
*     *     *
Aquasoc's underwater hockey
team has begun its season in the
Vancouver Underwater Hockey 'B'
Aquasoc, in its first home game
of the season, completely
dominated the Weasels 11-2 at the
Aquatic Centre Wednesday night.
Aquasoc was missing four key
players but still managed to control
the game.
Familiarity with its home pool
was a factor in Aquasoc win. No
other team in Vancouver has a pool
with a uniform depth of four metres
(the maximum depth allowed by the
rules of the World Diving Federation).
Hovvza 'bouta Sauza?
Numero uno
in Mexico and
in Canada.


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