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The Ubyssey Mar 12, 1981

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Array Students question budget
The B.C. provincial government
has increased the universities
budget for 1981 by 20 per cent, but
students are skeptical of the
budget's ultimate benefits, and still
plan to put on a rally to protest tuition fee increases.
"From what we can tell, students
and universities are no better off
than last year," Steve Shallhorn,
B.C. Student Federation spokesperson said Wednesday.
Shallhorn said although overall
universities funding increased to
about $324 million from about $270
million, the specific 13.8 per cent
increase in operating grants was insufficient.
"It's a steady budget, there's no
real increase. The 13.8 per cent increase in operating grants will be offset by a 13.5 per cent projected
consumer price index increase. And
if you take into consideration that
institutional inflationary increases
are considered to be higher than
C.P.I, estimates, then we're back to
the same situation as last year,"
Shallhorn said.
Operating grants, which fund all
academic and administrative operations, was increased to $272 million
from $239 million.
Maureen Boyd, chairperson of
the tuition and financial aid committee, said that the budget has not
altered the committee's intention to
hold a class boycott Mar. 18 to protest government cutbacks- and tuition fee policies.
"The budget barely covers inflation and, in all likelihood, will not
be an increase in funding at all. As
UBC continues to have an increasing enrollment each year, more funding is needed for that alone, not to
mention for expansion and improvement of existing programs.
"The government has clearly
revealed its attitude towards post-
secondary education by this budget
— it's not priority, it's not important, and essentially, they don't give
a damn. We have to fight back
now," said Boyd.
AMS external affairs coordinator
James Hollis received the budget
with caution. "Well, it's a step in
the right direction, though I fear it
Student hits
court 'bias'
Student court discriminates
against "normal people," a student
defence counsel charged Tuesday.
"The standards of society are being subverted in favor of homosexuals and other aberrent behaviors,"
said Bruce Bragagnol, law 1, after
the court convicted a student of assaulting a gay club member.
Student court convicted
Thunderbird football player Robert
Wake Tuesday of abusive conduct
toward another member of the
Alma Mater Society. Waite allegedly stole two Gay People of UBC
buttons and assaulted Mark McDonald, a member of the club.
Student court, after deliberating
15 minutes, unanimously decided to
suspend Waite, physical education
1, from all AMS and athletic privileges until Dec. 31, 1981. Waite was
also directed to write formal apologies to the court, the RCMP, the
Gay People of UBC.
Waite's status as a member of the
Thunderbird football team is in
doubt after the ruling, since the
court decided to suspend Waite
from all athletic programs. Athletics director Rob Hindmarch reserved comment Wednesday until
he reads the written court report.
The court was told Waite assaulted McDonald by hitting him on the
head with a pop can after Waite refused to return two Gay-UBC buttons.
"I think it's pathetic the way normal people are being discriminated
against so bleeding heart liberals
can salve their conscience by bending over backwards in an attempt to
prove they're not prejudiced against
a deviant fringe of our society,"
Bragagnol said.
McDonald said, "The court case
has shown students are not in some
sort of free state to call it a prank
and excuse it. Students are just as
responsible for behavior and if they
break the law, they should be processed for it."
Waite claimed he was "railroaded" after the verdict was announced. He added the entire case was
"a matter so petty it's a waste of
any court's time. He (McDonald) is
grandstanding and blowing it out of
Waite's advice to "all homos"
is "to take a large dose of male hormones and go back to the closet."
Waite said he may bring charges
against McDonald in student court
because he "feels that his (McDonald's) conduct was reprehensible in
the extreme. He was the first one to
be loud, the first to start yelling,
and the first to get physical."
Waite said Tuesday night an appeal probably would be filed.
There were several major discrepancies between the testimony of the
prosecution and defence. The prosecution told the court McDonald
said there was a $2 charge per button. The defence countered that
McDonald had explicitly asked for
a donation, and so Waite felt he did
not have to donate if he didn't want
The defence said Waite had simply thrown the garbage, which McDonald had emptied in order to retrieve one of the buttons, back at
McDonald. The prosecutor said
McDonald was actually hit with a
pop can. "I don't know how he hit
me, but he did," McDonald testified.
Both parties agreed that McDonald called a number of people in the
immediate area, including some of
Waite's friends, "scum" for watching the incident and doing nothing.
Waite told the court he had taken
the buttons as he felt it was a "good
joke" for someone who was not a
homosexual to wear a gay button
during gay week.
will be insufficient. As soon as I
receive the final figures from the
budget, external affairs will be submitting a brief to the provincial
government if we're being shortchanged," Hollis said.
The budget, which was passed
down Monday, revealed that student aid has been increased to $9.9
million. Awards officer Byron
Hender feels optimistic the student
aid increase will improve the present situation.
"I think we can assume it will
represent an increase in the ceiling
for student assistance and hopefully, it will represent a recognition
that the existing allowances for living costs are inadequate for
students, especially those living in
the Vancouver area," said Hender.
But   Shallhorn   disagreed   with
Hender's optimism despite the 33.6
per cent increase.
"My sources within the provincial government say they aren't sure
that student aid increases are
enough to increase the present
$3,500 ceiling, and they won't know
until they know the number of people who apply for loans — which
means sometime in August," he
.Vol. LXIII, No. 62
Vancouver, B.C. Thursday, March 12,1981
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press time, but it is believed to be published in large colony of imperialistic mutants south of border.
Council urges class boycott
Student council unanimously
called for a March 18 class boycott
to protest government cutbacks in
post-secondary education at its
Wednesday night meeting.
Council called for students and
faculty to boycott classes between
11:30 a.m. and 1:30 p.m. so
students can attend an informational rally on the effects of government cutbacks. The rally is scheduled to take place on the SUB plaza.
Although the B.C. government
increased the general university
operating budget by 13.8 per cent in
its budget, the rate of inflation for
the Vancouver area is between 12.5
and 13.5 per cent, said Maureen
Boyd, chair of the standing committee on tuition and student aid.
She added the rate of inflation is
higher for institutions.
"It's doubtful this is any increase
at all in real terms," she said.
The rally will feature such
speakers as UBC faculty member
Phil Resnick, Alma Mater Society
Trent negotiations stalled
PETERBOROUGH (CUP) — Negotiations between students occupying the executive offices at Trent
University and the university's president are at an impasse, the student union president said Wednesday.
Matt Shaughnessy said Trent president Don Theall
refused to negotiate until the 13 occupiers left his office. Trent students want all classes cancelled today so
they can attend a demonstration against tuition increases at the Ontario legislature.
Theall could not be reached for comment.
Students occupied the offices Monday morning to
protest the imposition of differential fees and a raise in
tuition, athletic and residence fees. They said they
would not leave until a "significant number" of their
demands were met.
The demands include the resignation of the board of
governors chair and removing differential fees until
the university community and senate can comment on
the matter.
At a meeting Saturday, the board raised tuition fees
to $935, the maximum level allowed by the province,
and imposed differential fees on international students
for the first time. Residence fees were increased by
$300 to $2,000.
A group of elected representatives and concerned
students called SOS (Save Our School) Trent organized the occupation, claiming the board ignored
the   input   of  more   than   600   students   during   a
See page 3: SAVE
president Marlea Haugen, student
board representative Chris Niwinski, Steve Shallhorn, executive officer of the B.C. Federation of
Students and Lid Strand of the
Association of University and College Employees.
Boyd told council UBC's administration declined the opportunity to have speakers at the rally.
She said the accessibility committee
approached university chancellor J.
V. Clyne, administration president
Doug Kenny and administration
vice president Michael Shaw.
They all claimed to have previous
engagements, she said.
Boyd also said the committee expects either Vancouver mayor Mike
Harcourt or city councillor Harry
Rankin to speak.
She said the committee is contacting the faculty association for support of the boycott, but has not yet
received a reply.
*    *    *
Council was told the five AMS
executives met with administration
president Doug Kenny and agreed
to pressure for more government
funding for the university.
AMS president Marlea Haugen
said the executive intends to demand increased funding for UBC
from the Universities Council of
She said UBC lost $2.1 million in
See page 2: VCC Page 2
Thursday, March 12,1981
VCC protests
Fareoard cost
From page 1
the 1980-81 budget because UCBC
only allocated this university a 7.51
per cent increase in its operating
budget. "Compare that to the rate
of inflation and you cringe," she
*   *   *
Don Whitney, acting president of
VCC's King Edward campus, told
council the new farecard system was
unfair to students at smaller institutions.
He said consignment (where student governments pay for the
farecards in advance) was impossible for VCC students because they
do not have enough cash-flow to
buy cards in advance.
Although consignment poses no
problem for UBC's AMS because it
has such a large revenue base, council agreed to support VCC students
demands to alter the system. VCC
students will present their views at
today's meeting of the Greater Vancouver Regional District.
Students will also demand
farecards be reduced to $12 for
post-secondary students at the
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Page 3
Locals fight fer El Salvador's freedom
While U.S. president Ronald Reagan faced
angry crowds of protestors in Ottawa, local
opponents of Reagan's El Salvador arms
policy unveiled a nation-wide petition campaign to force the U.S. to get out of the
strife-torn Central American nation.
Trade unionists, local politicians and
church representatives held a joint press conference Tuesday to announce the launch of
their "Freedom for El Salvador" petition
campaign. Among the charter sponsors of
the petition are Vancouver Mayor Mike Harcourt, NDP provincial opposition leader
Dave Barrett and B.C. Federation of Labour
I president Jim Kinnaird.
B.C. Law Union president Craig Patterson
said Tuesday that Reagan's visit to Canada
was "an insult to the struggles of the peoples
of El Salvador" and called for immediate
cut-off of all U.S. military aid to the governing right-wing junta in El Salvador.
B.C. MLA Bob Skelly, who returned last
Friday from a three-week visit to neighboring
Nicaragua, blasted the U.S. for its false accusations that the fledging socialist government of Nicaragua was militarily aiding the
El Salvadorean popular struggle.
He said the American assertion was even
more unbelievable when examining the current state of Nicaragua. Skelly said 40 per
cent of the country's weapons production
facilities were destroyed in the recent revolution, 64 per cent of the population is illiterate
and the government faces an 84 per cent inflation rate.
Vancouver Mayor Mike Harcourt said he
"urges fellow citizens in Vancouver and B.C.
to sign the petition." The petition demands
that the Canadian government:
• publicly oppose U.S. intervention in El
• use all diplomatic means to pressure the
U.S. government to cease its intervention in
El Salvador;
• and exert pressure on the United Nations to stop all foreign intervention in El
Salvador and protest the fact the U.S. is ignoring the U.N. resolution calling for a stop
to all arms shipments to El Salvador.
"We're saying we don't want any of the
major powers of this world trampling on
other powers," said Harcourt. "At this important stage in world history, the U.S.
should let people realize their own sovereignty.
"Let's send a message: let the people of El
Salvador realize their own form of government in their own way?' he added.
B.C. Teacher's Federation spokesperson
Geoff Peters told the press gathering that the
BCTF has repeatedly made pleas to the El
Salvadorean government to end persecution
of educators. Peters said the most recent plea
told the government that "we are aghast at
the persecution teachers are suffering at the
hands of your government."
Meanwhile, some members of the Central
America Support Committee gathered Monday outside the American embassy in
downtown Vancouver to stage a hunger
strike that lasted during the entire three day
duration of Reagan's Canada visit. Committee member Roger Tro warned that the current government of El Salvador is not what it
"It's extremely important that people
realize the government in power is not the
centrist government the press portrays it to
be," said Tro.
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RUMBLE, RUMBLE, echoes outside SUB Wednesday as wily, wheel-heeled woman menacingly circles more
mobile members of metropolis on way around campus. Kathryn Royal from student council for exceptional children can walk, but rolled along as part of UBC wheelchair tour to raise awareness of accessibility problems for disabled students. Successful tour had more people than wheelchairs. Exceptional person's week continues today
with wheelchair basketball game at noon in War Memorial gym and several talks on campus.
Desert survival secrets found
Scientists are finally learning how animals survive
the extreme heat and dryness of deserts, a prominent
physiologist said Tuesday.
Animals use "ingenious solutions" such as saving
water in their noses, Knut Schmidt-Nielsen, a visiting
Save our school!'
From page 1
discussion immediately before the meeting at which the
board made its decision.
Support for the occupation is high on the campus.
Shaughnessy said most Trent students are wearing
green armbands as a show of solidarity with the occupiers.
And angry students outnumbered party faithful by
more than two to one Tuesday when Ontario premier
Bill Davis stopped by the campus to do some campaigning.
More than 200 students shouted "Save our school"
and "No more cutbacks" as Davis arrived, drowning
out the Tory campaign song blaring from the campaign bus public address system.
Davis spoke to the crowd for about 15 minutes, promising students he would meet with Shaughnessy after
the speech. The premier denied there was chronic
underfunding, saying Ontario is the best funded province for education.
Shaughnessy said Davis gave no direct answers to
questions related to government cutbacks in education
funding or the recent imposition of differential fees at
The tuition increase will mean Trent students pay 19
per cent of the university's operating costs, compared
to a provincial average of 12 per cent.
Although Theall refused to cancel classes,
Shaughnessy said students will attend the rally at the
professor from Duke University, told 100 people in Biology 2000.
Schmidt-Nielsen, president of the International Union of Physiological Sciences, said camels do not strictly use their humps as a method to combat desert dryness. He said he recently discovered that both camels
and kangaroo rats use their noses to save water.
"The tip of their nose is much cooler than the ambient air," he said. When they inhale, the dry desert air
picks up moisture which cools the intricate nasal passages.
The air becomes saturated while in the lungs, he
said. But when it rushes out through the cool nasal
passages again, much of the water vapor condenses,
preventing water loss.
Before his discovery, scientists did not know the
nose was used to prevent water loss.
Aggie fight funded
From page 2
Council alloted $250 to the agriculture
undergraduate society to sponsor a protest against
removing farmland from B.C.'s agricultural reserve.
Agriculture representative Tom Riek told council
the society intends to send 45 students armed with petitions of protest to the Victoria parliament buildings
next week.
Riek said the B.C. government's recent removal of
farmland from the reserve was clearly a political action
not based on the actual reality of agricultural needs.
He said the issue is of universal concern because it
affects food supplies and urged council to help fund
the protest on those grounds.
He initially requested council to provide $560 for the
protest, but the motion was amended because it "set a
dangerous precedent."
"I don't think we can afford to fund everybody who
goes on protests," AMS vice president Mitchell said.
Kenny wants
gov't inquiry
In the wake of reports; that the
federal government may eliminate
its share of funding of post-
secondary education, UBC president Doug Kenny has supported
calls for a Royal Commission investigation of Canadiar universities.
In a letter to the Toronto Globe
and Mail printed Monday, Kenny
says he supports calls for a Royal
Commission or some other form of
public inquiry that would look into
the funding of universities across
the country.
Kenny's comments follow reports
last month that the federal government is considering cutting more
than $1 billion in post-secondary
education funding, a move that
would force provincial governments
to dramatically increase both their
contribution to funding and tuition
B.C. currently receives $335
million in cash transfers and tax
credits under the federal government's Established Program Funding system, an amount equal to
almost two-thirds of the total provincial post-secondary education
"Precipitous federal government
withdrawal from indirect funding
of universities would be shortsighted and gravely damaging to the
long term interests of Canada;
universities are important to the nation as a whole," Kenny writes.
"Unfortunately, few people in
Canada are aware of the enormous
increase in federal financing of
universities since the Second World
War; few are aware of how much
credit should go to Ottawa for the
network of excellent universities
across Canada."
Negotiations for a new federal-
provincial education financing
agreement are expected lo begin
soon, though the current EPF
agreement continues until April
Kenny's letter may be part of a
campaign by Canadian university
representatives to increase public
awareness of the federal government's overlooked role in education
funding in order to ensure the
government does not totally drop
our of the funding picture.
At a recent conference held in
Vancouver on the federal funding
situation participants said the
federal government is tired of spending millions of dollars without
receiving any control over or credit
for its contribution.
Kenny's letter to the Globe
strongly echoes remarks he made to
the UBC senate at its February
meeting. At that time he also drew
attention to the federal government's unrecognized role in university funding. He called upon the
senators to make their views on the
subject known by writing letters to
the prime minister and members of
the cabinet.
In his letter Kenny commends
two articles in the newspaper which
explained the universities' fears and
said a public inquiry is necessary.
"Our universities not only should
be called to account, they deserve to
be called to account," the president
Maximum fine
possible for
Fraser polluters
Local environmentalists this
week were anxiously awaiting the
sentencing of two major Fraser
river polluters in what they consider
to be a landmark case.
Two weeks ago, the courts convicted Crown Zellerbach Property
Developments and Foursome
Developments of polluting a
tributary of the Fraser and announced that the companies face up
to $400,000 in fines. The Society for
Pollution and Environmental Control is looking forward to a March
16 decision which they hope will enforce the full penalty on the companies.
"We're heartened by the fact
that there was a conviction — and if
the fines are substantial that will
help tremendously in future cases,"
said spokesperson Cliff Stainsby.
"It would mean there's a realistic
penalty to be paid."
Stainsby is particularly heartened
by the fact that when private
citizens prosecute polluters, they
are entitled to one-half the fine
levied. "If the fine is substantial,
the potential return could finance
the cost of taking the companies to
court," he added.
The SPEC spokesperson said environmental groups in the past have
faced enormous fees in putting
together effective pollution cases.
He said costs range up to $1,600 for
a single water sample, to which are
added further research and legal
costs — making up a hefty bill for
any potential pollution prosecutor.
But he said the Aldcroft convic-
ton and another recent conviction
on the Coquitlam river — in which
a company was fined $190,000 —
are encouraging signs that the
courts are getting more interested in
deterring pollution. Page 4
Thursday, March 12,1981
BoG doublethink ungood
The provincial budget handed down Monday
could only mean bad news for students.
If the Socreds had not increased funding to
universities, UBC students would have had to
pay higher tuition fees to cover the increasing
cost of operating this university. But since
finance minister Hugh Curtis decided to allocate
an additional 20 per cent, UBC students will still
pay higher tuition fees.
Puzzled? No wonder. But the answer to this
paradox lies in the board of governor's policy of
indexing tuition fees.
Indexing tuition fees to a certain percentage of
the operating budget is a stupid policy, and its
stupidity is now fully realized.
Operating costs increase annually, and are frequently higher than the average inflation rate due
to the specialized nature of services offered at
And thanks to the indexing policy, student tuition fees must account for at least 10 per cent of
those costs.
If costs go up and funding remains constant,
students have to make up the difference. But if
the funding increases, the operating costs are
sure to escalate further. It is only natural to
assume operations which have been reduced
due to cutbacks will be restored to their former
level, increasing the total operating budget and
thus the students' share of financing.
As it is, the overall university operating grant
has been increased by 13.8 per cent, an amount
which barely matches the current rate of inflation. There are, by the way, no guarantees UBC
will receive a corresponding increase to its
It's difficult not to appear grateful. After all, 20
per cent is 20 per cent. It does indicate that the
government is finally listening to students,
educators and boards and realizes its past fiscal
policies have seriously eroded the quality and
availability of education in B.C.
But increases which barely cover the cost of
inflation and fail to allow universities to catch up
to former levels will only maintain the current
mediocre system.
And so whether students wish to be perceived
as ungrateful or not, it is in their interests to support the class boycott March 18. Indexing tuition
fees must be abolished if students are to have
any chance of affording a quality education. And
government funding policies must be changed to
stop the long slide into mediocrity.
Don't hesitate to be ungrateful. Or else very
soon you will be uneducated, and paying at least
10 per cent of what it costs to get that way.
March 12, 1981
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Alma Mater Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff
and not of the AMS or the university administration. Member, Canadian University
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Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Editor: Verne McDonald
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Geof Wheelwright and Verne McDonald meanwhile invented dirty questions for the staff meeting Friday at lunch for editor screenings. Bill Teilperchild and
Heesok Chang debated various styles of vsrious things — snything to pass the time while weiting for Stuart Davis to finish what he was supposed to finish. Phil
Green sat in astonishment at the insane ramblings of everyone present. All staph, past, present, future snd dead are reminded about the Ubyssey team's upcoming victory in the yacht races todsy at noon, the editor screening Friday at lunch and the style discussion at 3:30.
I consider two bee
Has any gear ever taken up
As a matter of fact, yes. The
teaching assistant in one of my electrical engineering labs happens to
be treasurer of the ballet club.
If we are to believe the recent
Perspective column by Jamie Andrews (The Ubyssey, Mar. 6) my
TA would be the victim of a horde
of red-jacketed baboons who would
chant "Pansy! Pansy!" until he
gave up his "unmanly" hobby.
Weil, Jamie, I hate to disappoint
you, but it just isn't so.
You tell me I did not freely
choose my lifestyle. I disagree.
Everyone has some constraints
placed on them by society, but I
think that I, as an engineer, am just
as individualistic as a person in
commerce, law, medicine, arts, or
even computer science.
Of course, I also disagree with
your description of my lifestyle. Indeed, I am insulted by it. You
describe it as "alcoholic, sexist, obnoxious." I'm told I entered
engineering because I was impressed
by the antics of a bunch of sexist
I am studying engineering
because I decided it was a creative
profession in which I would enjoy
working. I made this decision while
I was in high school. I did not enter
engineering because I thought I
would look good in a red jacket.
You claim the engineering
lifestyle is "alcoholic, sexist, obnoxious." Let's look at your examples to support this view.
You talk about "tankings." How
many people were involved in the
incidents you have seen? Perhaps
twenty. If you watched closely, you
would see it was usually the same
small group of students getting
tanked. Yet you use such a scene to
justify your view of 1,600 members
of a faculty.
I am acquainted with only a small
percentage of the students in the
engineering departments, but even
just in that small group I find an
opera lover, a poet, a fanatic about
the great works of English
literature, a Mozart fan, and half a
dozen closet philosophers.
I did not have to perform a large
scale search to find these people;
these are just some interests that
have come up during conversations
in engineering classes and labs. (The
president of the EUS has even been
rumored to have taken some —
gasp! — creative writing courses.)
Which brings us to the Forty Beer
Club, which you describe as "a
strange group of engineers which is
particularly revered." This is news
to me. I know of no one who
reveres the Forty Beer Club, except
perhaps its members. Indeed, I have
noticed that a high percentage of
the people I regard as bona fide
jerks belong to this club. If a person
wants to drink 40 beers in an evening, that's his business, but I'm in
no rush to idolize him.
Which in turn brings us to your
question about a gear giving up
alcohol. Yes, there are engineering
students who don't drink. There are
others who drink heavily. (I myself
consider two beer to be a night of
heavy drinking.) As far as I know,
this range of alcoholic consumption
is the same in any other faculty.
The question I found really
humorous was whether any gear
had joined Women Against
Violence Against Women. I happened to pass by a WAV AW
meeting in SUB one day. On the
door was a sign in big letters:
Women Only.
I get the feeling I wouldn't be
welcomed   if   I   tried   to   join
Tolerate gears
In response to the "Engineer as
victim" article of Friday, I have a
couple of thoughts perhaps Jamie
Andrews should read. First is that
Andrews claims "we are all familiar
with the Classic Male Stereotype
(CMS)" and that the typical
engineer is the epitome of it by use
of such "obnoxious" methods such
as tanking (shudder).
Not only am I not familiar with
the mythical CMS, as a man I see
nothing worng with some foolish
behavior, at the risk of being called
"adolescent." They do not go
around picking up students at random and tanking them — it's merely a risk one takes if one wishes to
associate with such characters.
I personally abhor the group
mentality that people get from excluding people unlike themselves
from their group, yet if gears want
to stick with gears that is their
perogative and none of your
My second point is that the article
claims "the issue here in not
whether or not the (Godiva) ride is
sexist; clearly it is," and that the
'real' issue of stereotyping is at
Sexism is defined as prejudice
against women, analogous to
racism — while people continue to
dilute the term's real meaning. A
nude woman is not sexism, not even
if displayed in front of thousands of
admiring men and women. If a
woman is denied her basic libeties
because she is a woman — that,
then, is sexism.
To say the Godiva ride is "clearly" sexist is to lump a large portion
of this university into a bundle — a
bundle of inconsiderates who enjoy
seeing others degraded.
If the gears enjoy propogating
their "stereotype'-' then show a little
toleration for their rights (which
may include the horrific Forty Beer
Club initiation) and in turn the
stereotypical engineer may not look
Pity the intolerant: "Because if
he does not deserve pity, nothing
Peter Loawe
political science 3
On Tuesday, March 10, 1981,
one Robert Waite was found guilty
under bylaw 21(l)c(j)3 of the AMS
constitution for behavior deemed
unbecoming to a member of the
society by the AMS student court.
It was the judgment of the court
that on Tuesday, Feb. 10, 1981 at
approximately 2:30 p.m. in the
main concourse of SUB, Robert
Waite removed two buttons from a
Gay People of UBC booth and refused to give them back on being informed by a member of the booth
that a donation was expected of
Waite in exchange of the buttons.
Waite's refusal to return the buttons in addition to his abusive conduct toward the person attempting
to take back the buttons are the reasons given for the court's verdict of
guilty. All AMS privileges for
Robert Waite are suspended till
Dec. 31, 1981.
Gray McMullin
clerk of the student court Thursday, March 12,1981
Page 5
r heavy drinking"— engineer
WAV AW. Besides, I have no interest in joining a group that so
blatantly practices sexual
While we're talking about
women, it might interest you to
know there are women in engineering. Your portrait of the typical
engineer as a macho, women oppressing, beer guzzling, obnoxious
little boy tends to ignore these
women. I trust your article wasn't
biased by a sexist assumption of the
gender of an engineer.
I really hate to spend all my time
disagreeing with you, Jamie, but if
you talk to me, even "in a friendly
manner," I will not agree that the
Godiva Ride is sexist. My response
will not depend on whether I am
surrounded by fellow engineers or
by a group of fervent opponents of
the ride.
However, if you do happen to
ask me this question, make sure you
have about three hours to listen to
my reasons for saying the ride is not
sexist. Another three hours for
listening to your rebuttal of my
arguments, with perhaps four hours
of free form arguing, and we both
may have a better understanding of
the situation.
Anyone openly against the ride
faces "the genuine disrespect of his
classmates?" I am insulted by the
claim I would disrespect someone
merely because he held a contrary
The claim that engineering
students were "normal, well-
adjusted adolescent males" who
were enticed into engineering by the
antics of red jacket brigades is invalid. I'm told by the people in the
co-operative education office that
studies have shown that most male
engineering students decided on
engineering while still in high
school. I have no reports of red
jacketed recruiters raiding the high
I don't want "a beautiful faithful
wife, a luxury yacht, three bright
children, and maybe a couple of
mistresses on the side."
I want to be happy, to love my
wife and be loved by her, and to enjoy the profession I have chosen. It
would be nice to be making a lot of
money, but it is not my main priority. I think that in engineering, as
elsewhere, people are realizing that
the traditional signs of success —
the   luxury   yachts   —   are   not
guarantees of happiness.
I agree that society has traditionally forced men to accept roles
that are just as restrictive as those
forced on women. I agree that these
pressures on men seemed to be unnoticed by most members of the
women's liberation movement.
However, I cannot accept your
stereotyping of engineers as prime
examples of this traditional
There are some jerks in the
engineering departments. Some of
them may even fit your description.
However, all faculties have to
tolerate their share of jerks. Macho-
men are not restricted to engineering, nor are they typical of
Just as women want to be free
from the stereotype that places
them barefoot and pregnant in the
kitchen, I want to be free of the
stereotype that portrays engineers
as uncultured, beer guzzling clods
whose main joy in life is trying to
drown each other.
Is that so much to ask, Jamie?
John Miller
electrical engineering 2
Obscene art too large
I am writing with regards: to the Feb. 27 article in The Ubyssey
"Women explore the erotic."
The group of female artists made an attempt to distinguish between
pornography and erotica. World book dictionary defines erotica as
"books and pictures that emphasize erotic activities" and pornography
as "writing or pictures dealing with sexual matters in a manner intended
to incite lust, and therefore considered obscene." Obscene is defined as
"offending modesty or decency."
Admittedly I am relatively ignorant as to the contents of pornographic magazines, but it would seem to me that the sample of art
work portrayed on The Ubyssey front cover would not be out of place in
such "literatures."
Few, even in today's society, would consider the work modest.
Therefore, by definition, it is obscene. As a husband and father I want
to emphasize that male-female relations are not obscene, but that they
should be kept private, that they are personal.
So I am old fashioned. I object to your being so explicit in your report
on Herotica. If pictures were required I think they could have been
smaller and not on the front page. Michael Harris
medicine 1
BCPIRG explains its constitution and research goals
Since last fall you have been hearing about
BCPIRG in articles and letters in The
Ubyssey, on CITR, from posters, and most
recently from the scores of students who
distributed pamphlets, manned tables, spoke
to classes, and gathered signatures in our
petition campaign.
Although only 500 signatures were required to call a referendum, the members of
the UBC PIRG organizing club chose to use
the response to this campaign to measure our
support among the student body.
The over 4,300 signatures that were
gathered have convinced us that general support for BCPIRG does exist. Now, we will be
going to referendum next week to authorize
the levying of a refundable $5 fee on full-time
students to finance it.
We believe that students understand the
goals of BCPIRG, and recognize the benefits
it can have for themselves, for the student
body and the university, and for the people
of the province. We want to tell you here as
clearly as possible how BCPIRG will be
structured to effect its goals, and something
of the principles which have determined this
The constitution and bylaws of BCPIRG
have been developed through a continuing
process of decision-making, refinement, and
translation into the necessary "legalese." As
members of the constitutional drafting committee, we spent innumerable hours at this
task with other members, Simon Fraser
University students organizing for BCPIRG
on their campus, and legal consultants.
The bylaws will not be finalized until they
have been accepted by the Registrar of Companies and BCPIRG is incorporated as a
society; however, we have developed what we
believe is a good functional document. This
has been ratified at general meetings of the
UBC PIRG organizing club.
First, in the constitution of BCPIRG the
objects are stated as follows;
• to promote and conduct research on
issues of public interest and concern;
• to make information acquired through
the research activities of the Society available
to the public;
• to promote and undertake appropriate
citizen action, including representation
before legislative, administrative, and
judicial bodies, where research activities of
the Society indicate this to be in the public interest;
• to facilitate student participation in
public interest research and to aid students in
developing effective citizenship skills;
• to do everything incidental and
necessary to promote and attain the forgoing
objects throughout the province of B.C.
The other articles in the constitution state
that the objects of the society will be carried
out without profit for its members, and provide that in the event of dissolution, remaining funds and assets shall be transferred to
the post-secondary institutions for the
establishment of student scholarship and
bursary funds.
Some basic features of BCPIRG are common to the PIRGs which have been
developed over the last ten years in the U.S.,
Australia,    and    Canada.    PIRGs   are
autonomous non-profit organizations made
up of the student bodies of a state or province, funded and controlled by their student
In order to protect their objectivity and
student orientation, they are independent of
other student or community organizations.
Membership in BCPIRG will be open to
students at any B.C. post-secondary institution.  Any student  who has paid the fee
)     Students
} Univers i t y
through a fee levy instituted through referendum at his or her campus, and has not received a refund, will be a member with full voting
Part-time students who have been levied
the fee, as at UBC, may become members
with the same privileges by voluntary payment of the fee.
The refundable fee provides a mechanism
whereby students who do not wish to support
BCPIRG need not do so, and also provides
an ongong measure of its acceptability to
students. At UBC the fee refund will be
available on request for four weeks after
registration, notice of which will be given to
all students.
The BCPIRG Society, as required by the
Societies Act, will have an annual general
meeting at which the financial statements,
the report of the auditor, and the board of
directors' report will be made available to
members. Also, there will be provision for
special general meetings by resolution of the
board or a petition of the members.
Because of the difficulty of finding an
equally accessible meeting place which can
accommodate a significant percentage of the
membership, the bylaws provide for member
input through referenda, which can also be
called by the board or petition. These will be
conducted under regulations regarding the
wording, notice, quorum, etc. similar to
those governing AMS referenda.
Each student member of BC PIRG at an
institution where a fee levy has been instituted through referendum will also be a
member of a campus Local, where the real
action will be. The UBC campus Local will
have general meetings, at least four each
school year, and will also have provision for
referenda. At the first general meeting in October the candidates for the UBC campus
Local steering committee will be introduced,
and students will vote in a secret ballot election conducted at the meeting and over at
least the next three class days.
It will be the responsibility of the steering
committee to ensure that UBC students have
as much involvement as possible in BCPIRG,
and to organize activities on campus. The
steering committee shall elect a chairperson,
secretary, and treasurer from their number,
and also select a number of their members to
sit on the board of directors of BC PIRG.
The board of directors of the BCPIRG
society will be elected from the campus
Locals based on their membership, as
follows: 0-2500 members: one director to be
elected; 2500-5000 members: two directors to
be elected; and one for each 5000 students
beyond 5000.
The management and control of the property and funds of the society will be vested
in the board of directors, who will be responsible for hiring and directing the staff, keeping proper financial records, etc. and for ensuring that the bylaws of the campus Locals
comply with the Societies Act. It is expected
that the staff will include an executive director, who would be a non-voting member of
the board. The board may also include nonvoting student or community members by a
two-thirds resolution.
The board will elect from their midst a
chairperson, secretary, and treasurer for six-
month terms. Meetings of the board will be
at regular times which will be posted, and
shall be open to all members.
It is of course not possible to detail all the
provisions contained in the document, or
even begin to discuss all the considerations
which have gone into it. We have attempted
to find a balance between accountability of
BCPIRG to its members and flexibility, and
to provide as much as possible for democratic
involvement of the student membership in
the society's affairs. Sections we have had to
omit here include fincances, the grievance
committee provisions for members, and
amendment procedures.
We are still open to input insofar as
changes can be incorporated into our
agreements with SFU representatives and
considering the requirements of the Societies
Act. Full copies of the constitution and
bylaws of BCPIRG have been distributed to
your representatives on the student council,
and we hope to have them available during
referendum week (Mar. 16 to 20).
We hope that you will support BCPIRG in
the upcoming referendum, and if it is successful, that you will take advantage of the
many opportunities it will offer to make your
studies and your years at UBC meaningful.
Rob Cameron, Marty Lund, Carol Riviere
and Mike Satterfield of the UBC PIRG
organizing club assembled the above material
for Perspectives, a column of analysis and
opinion open to all members of the university
community. Publication of articles cannot be
guaranteed. Page 6
Thursday, March 12, 1981
'Tween classes
General mssting, noon, SUB 230.
Election night, 7:30 p.m., MacMillan 278.
Elections snd Isn Ma speaks on the history of
UBCCCF, noon. SUB 119.
Spring general meeting for election of next
year's executive, noon, Brock 368.
Gey lew students speak on gays and the Criminal
Code, noon, SUB 212.
Financial aid and awards information, noon to
2:30 p.m., Speakeasy.
General meeting and announcement of elections, time not stated. SUB 261
Public meeting, everyone welcome, noon, SUB
117. Office and reading room in SUB 230a.
Distinguished visitor's lecture: From Samson to
Hulk, noon, Buch. 100.
Msrch lecture series: Some had to do ths dirty
work, noon, SUB 113.
Kan Blue speeks on: Are You Following Jesus or
Just Believing in Christ?, noon, IVCF.
Stammtisch. German conversational evening,
7:30 p.m.. International House, near gate «.
Last meeting of year and executive elections, sH
members must attend, noon, IRC 4.
Film on republic dsy, everyone welcome, noon,
SUB 126.
G. Szasi, USC faculty of medicine, speeks on
Sexuality and the exceptional, noon, Scarfs 201.
Basketball game: Cadlecars (team of wheelchair
athletes) vs. mixed squad of Thunderettes and
Vancouver Canucks, noon. War Memorial gym.
Panel discussion of visually impaired student ss
socistion: The visually impaired on campus —
how can you help?, 1:30 p.m., Scarfe 1008.
Rick Hansen and Dan Strongs speek on wheel-
chsir sports, 1:30 p.m., Wer Memorial gym.
Film: Vikki. Phil and Mike, about issues facing
handicapped   university   students,   1:30   p.m.,
counselling centre, Ponderosa Annex F.
Tim Lewie, president, coalition for the disabled,
speaks on the rights of the exceptional, 1:30
p.m., Buch. 219.
Men's track and field meet, noon, Henry Logen
Tickets available for March 20 awards banquet,
»I2 per person, Wsr Memorial gym 203.
Women's skate night, just drop in, skate rental
availebie, 7:30 to 10 p.m., Thunderbird winter
sports centre.
Hockey super league finela: isw vs. commerce,
7:46 p.m., TWSC.
Division one hockey finels, 9:30 p.m., TWSC
main rink.
Division two hockey finale, 10:15 p.m., TWSC
rink two.
Division three hockey finals, 9 p.m.. TWSC rink
Men's super league Nitobe baaketball finals.
Gage vs. Kspps Sigma, 1 p.m., WMG.
Organizational meeting for all thoae going on the
Sunshine Coast bike trip, noon, WMG 211.
Women's and men's Nitobe baaketball finals, today and Friday, noon to 2:30 p.m.. WMG.
Men's division two  Nitobe basketball finals:
Dekes vs. Zeta-Betaa, 1:30 p.m., WMG.
General meeting to decide if UBC is to hold
world debating championships, noon, SUB 215.
Open forum, an opportunity to aak queatjons
about and raise objections to B.C. PIRG, noon,
SUB 212.
Elections, noon. International House lounge.
Speaker's committee, SUB 232.
Bill  Rompkey,  minister of national  revenue,
speeks, noon, Henry Angus 110.
Plsnning meeting, noon, SUB 115.
Drop-in fitness class, moderate level, $1.50 per
ssesinn. 5:30 to 6:15 p.m., Ruth Blair lounge.
Gage towers.
Chinees painting class, no time stated, SUB 213.
Men's division three Nitobe baaketball finals,
Robson vs. Miners, 2:30 p.m., Wer Memorial
Men's division two Nitobe basketball finals, 1:30
p.m., WMG.
Dons PiteD, UVic student with personal cerebral
palsy experience, speeks on attitudes toward the
exceptional, noon, SUB party room.
Bike trip to Sunshine Coast, all day.
Grand tournament, entry fee W a pair, 5:30
p.m., SUB 206.
Car reify, 5:30 p.m., Oakridge parking lot.
Drop-in fitness class, moderate level, $1.50 a
session. 5:30 p.m., Ruth Blair lounge. Gage.
Economics series — The Good Life; urbanization
problema in Mexico, noon. Library Processing
Ron Huntingdon, MP Capilano speaks, noon,
SUB 212.
Rim: God Knows Why But It Works (Australia),
noon. International Houae 400.
General   meeting,   executive   elections,   new
members welcome, 6 p.m., SUB 206.
Drop in fitness class, »1.50 per session, 5:30
p.m., Ruth Blair lounge, Gage.
Rally at
"Hi, Archie. What's shaking?"
"Gosh, Veronica, haven't you
heard? We're all going to skip out
our classes Wednesday and collect
at SUB for a rally against government policies that are steadily eroding the quality of post-secondary
"Hey, sounds keen. That reactionary Daddy of mine must have
been burning my copies of the
newspaper again. What time's the
"It's at noon at the plaza. If it
rains, we'll be in the conversation
pit. You coming, Jughead?
"You bet, Betty. But first I'm going to sleep until 11:30 to show my
disdain for classes of decreasing
quality and increasing cost. Are we
going to the choklit shop after the
"Neat idea, Juggie. I could use a
break, especially in the middle of
Hot flashes
the week. Are we going to make
some placards?"
"It's your presence that counts
the most, Veronica. See you Wed
long green
You discerning devil, you no
doubt noticed the money for student aid has increased by a third, allowing a record number of students
to live far below poverty level.
Naturally, being the well-educated person you're supposed to be,
your mind is full of speculations and
theories on how to get your hands
on some of that lovely lolly.
Speculate no more. The course
of action is obvious.
Speakeasy is giving out information on financial aid and awards
from noon to 2:30 p.m. today. Experienced, knowledgeable people
will tell you to pry those precious
pennies from the purse of the parsimonious provincial government.
Don't delay, get down today or
you'll lose hay for next winter's stay
at UBC.
Get witty
Yacht races anyone? This is the
arts equivalent of the popular boat
races — but this time with delicate
white wine. Contestants will be
judged on wit of conversation,
stately speed of wine drinking, taste
in dress, et cetera.
Look for us at the races. We'll be
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Page 7
Losing 'Birds lose coach
At the beginning of the 1980-81
Collegiate hockey season, someone
must have approached the UBC
Thunderbirds hockey team and
said, "Anything that can possibly
go wrong, will."
For the second year in a row, the
'Birds finished in last place in the
Canada West conference. And believe it or not, it seems the worst is
yet to come. Bert Halliwell has decided to retire as coach of the team,
and this year's top players will be either graduating or pursuing their
hockey careers elsewhere. As a
result, next year's team could be in
Bert Halliwell coached the 'Birds
hockey team for the past five years,
but has now decided to return to
school as a full time student, in
hopes of obtaining a doctorate degree in biomechanics.
Early in January the 'Birds lost a
number of key players. Last year's
Canada West scoring champion,
Rob Jones, injured his knee and
was sidelined for the rest of the
year. Frank Gorringe quit school
and subsequently the team, and
then Hugh Cameron was lost for
the season with an injury.
Halliwell said the turning point in
the season came early in January
when the 'Birds lost two games in
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overtime to the University of Calgary. "Those were our best games
of the season even though we lost.
Things might have been different if
we had won," he said.
The most satisfying win was in
Edmonton when the 'Birds upset
the Golden Bears in triple overtime,
causing the University of Alberta to
miss the playoffs for the first time
in 18 years, Halliwell said.
The 'Birds as a team didn't do
well this year, but the team had its
share of stars. Jim Mclaughlin won
the Canada West scoring championship and teammate Bill Holowaty was selected to the Canada
West all-star team.
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Dialogues on Development
Thursday, March 12, 1981
Last session of a nine-part series on
some of the issues of development.
FEB: $1.00 per session.
SPEAKER:    Noga    Gayle,    a
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Thursday, March 12,1981
Trying to explain engineers
better than just criticizing
Congratulations, Jamie! The
March 6 Perspective was by far the
most brilliant piece of literature
which has ever emanated from the
pages of The Ubyssey. Clearly a
thoroughly thought-out argument,
your portrayal of the UBC engineers as what you term Classic Male
Stereotypes exactly summed up the
image presented me since the beginning of the year.
At first I thought the red jackets
were simply the unifying factor
characteristic of any club or organization. I never thought they also
served the function of alienating the
gear from the rest of the community
by singling him out automatically as
the CMS.
However, and especially when
dealing with such a large group as
the engineers, one must be careful
not to generalize; rolling all gears
into one package is perhaps as uncompromising as calling all computer science students eggheads.
While it is true that, when asking
a gear why he bought a red jacket,
the typical reply is "Because all engineers wear one" or "To show I'm
an engineer," there is nothing intrinsically wrong with this.
Thank you for your article clarifying the B.F.A. situation.
However, in your article Tuesday
you misquoted me.
You quoted me as saying "I
changed my opinions after having
talked with other female students,
and after having checked last year's
graduate student grades ..."
I did not check last year's
graduate grades, I checked last
year's graduating student's grades,
specifically the 1980 fourth year
marks. I wish to stress that I was
speaking of the undergraduate
students marks.
Alice Thompson
line arts 4
After all, should he have bought
a Lions Club jacket instead? The
real issue is not the prestige associated with a piece of apparel, but
what is done by the person in response to (or in search of) that prestige.
For example, some engineers are
simply content with the knowledge
that they're engineers; others will
go out and buy jackets to show
others they're engineers. Others still
will parade in the Lady Godiva ride,
bottomless or otherwise, knowing
that many eyes will be on them.
This variety of behavior can be
found in any cross-section of soci
ety — it just happens that this particular section wears the same color
Overall, however, your article,
with the clearly stated anologues
supporting it, and with poetic emotion driving it, shows an acute perception into the nuances of social
It's about time someone has tried
to explain the gears' antics instead
of simply criticizing them. Pity the
poor engineer — perhaps. But understanding the individual might
meet with a more positive attitude.
Emmanuel Huchet
computer science 1
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