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Array AMS sponsors UEL poll
A poll of UBC students' opinions
on future development of the
university endowment lands will
be held Nov. 22 following rumors
Wednesday that a final provincial
government decision on UEL use is
imminent.
Council passed a motion Wednesday night to hold the poll
subject to final wording by internal
affairs officer Doug Brock.
"If you've ever read the Lands
Act you can see they (the government) can drop a bomb at any time
so we'd better get on the ball,"
<      Brock said.
Rumors from Victoria have
indicated the government will
move by December to incorporate
the lands with Vancouver and use
them for a joint city-province low-
cost housing development.
There has been no official confirmation, however civic officials
did indicate the plan had been
discussed in the past.
"Development of these lands
seems pretty well inevitable and
it's up to students and the residents
in the area to have a say on how it
is to be done," Brock said.
He said the poll would be
preferential, with students
deciding which of four types of use
they consider most important.
Those categories are housing,
park land, "educational wilderness" and recreational land.
"I think most students are in-
' terested in what happens to the
endowment lands," Brock said.
"We've had a tremendous amount
of response to an article about
them in The Ubyssey last Thursday."
Society treasurer John Wilson
initially objected to the poll, saying
he didn't think students would have
enough information to vote but
when Brock promised a full
publicity campaign Wilson and
council went along.
' Meanwhile, Greater Vancouver
Regional District chairman Allan
Kelly charged Wednesday the 3,000
persons living on the UEL are
probably overwhelmingly opposed
to the scheme.
"The last time this came up was
several years ago and at that time
residents felt they would rather be
incorporated as a small
municipality rather than being
part of Vancouver," he said. "I
would suspect they still feel the
same way."
At that time 90 per cent of the
residents indicated in a survey
they wished to form their own
municipality.
Aid. Walter Hardwick, doubling
as a geography professor at UBC,
said he wasn't aware of the city
being approached on the idea.
"If they do decide to put the two
together,   I   would   hope   the
*    government as owners of the land
would pay for services and plan for
area.
"I can see they might make the
move and then leave the city to
take all the flack from environmentalists and others who
protest the move," he said.
Hardwick said he supports the
retention of some of the 1,700 acre
lands for public use but a large
part   must   be   turned   over   to
mf    housing.
The university community,
surveyed in a report submitted to
administration president Walter
Gage earlier this year, strongly
support the concept of recreational
and public use for the land rather
than any housing project or other
developments.
The Alma Mater Society has set
* up a committee to investigate what
the government is planning for the
lands and to lobby in Victoria for
the university community.
Kelly declined to speculate on
the proposal which he said "is still
a rumor".
Kelly, the UEL representative to
the GVRD, said he had not been
0   notified of any such proposal by the
government.
"The residents here may have no
choice but to amalgamate if the
government says so," he said.
The future uses of the endowment lands, which were set
aside years ago by the provincial
government to provide revenue for
B.C.'s three universities, has been
debated publicly and privately for
most of this century.
Proposals in the past have
ranged from game farms, a
housing development, and science
city, large recreational areas to
leaving it as hinterland.
Housing minister Lome Nicolson
announced in the summer the
government's intention to use part
of the lands for housing in an effort
to lower the run-away prices of
homes in Vancouver.
At that time Nicolson also announced parts of the land on
Burnaby Mountain surrounding
Simon Fraser University and the
Blair Mountain range in North
Vancouver would also be turned
over to housing.
The UEL, the GVRD and Vancouver city have complained in the
past of being left out of the
provincial government's plans for
the lands.
"At a meeting with the GVRD
and the city recently the provincial
government told us we would be
consulted when the time comes,"
Hardwick said. "That's the last
we've heard."
Other   proposals   for   the   endowment   lands   throughout   the
' years  haye   not  met   with   any
government interest.
The "educational wilderness",
on which students will be
questioned in the poll, is an idea
similar to the "think tanks"
popular in the U.S. some years ago.
The Scientific Pollution and
Environment Control group, along
with other ecology-minded
organizations, has advocated
leaving the lands in their natural
condition.
MAD SNIPER poses on top of un-named university building awaiting arrival of downtown bigwigs for
monthly board of governors meeting. "I mean I heard tell where this here minister of eddication wants to
re-organize the board of governors so I thought I'd give her a hand, hyuk, hyuk, hyuk," pistol packing pundit
was heard to remark. Ubyssey photographer Peter Cummings snapped this shot seconds before campus
quasi-cops armed with blunderbusses swarmed over the mall having heard "the Russkies" had invaded.
AMS hesitates on computer
By JAKE van der KAMP
Alma Mater Society council
voted Wednesday to take a second
look at a proposal by society
treasurer John Wilson to spend
$25,000 to lease a bookkeeping
computer.
The proposal, introduced as part
of the finance committee minutes,
would Elliot $5,000 from this year's
budget and the same amount for
the next four years to pay for the
computer.
Wilson introduced the proposal
because he said it would speed up
operations in the AMS business
office.
He urged council to approve it
soon because sales people had told
him a 10 per cent price hike is in
the offing.
Council instead voted to table the
proposal until Wilson looks into
other means of handling the
society's business and makes a
complete report on the financial
details of the plan.
Wilson admitted to council if the
lease was signed there would be no
way the society could back out of
the agreement if the machine
didn't work.
He said while the computer
would reduce the bookkeeping
costs, it would not lead to any
reduction in staff.
He claimed however it was a
reduction in the sense that since
last year the staff had been
reduced and the computer would
facilitate continuing at the lower
level.
The computer would streamline
operations in that the double-entry
bookkeeping now being done by
hand could be done by machine,
Wilson said.
Wilson's proposal ran into opposition on council.
Grad student rep  Bob  Angus
Agreement signed
The university and the Office and
Technical Employees Union
reached tentative agreement
Tuesday on a contract involving
about 45 physical plant office
workers.
OTEU secretary-treasurer
Opal Skillings said Wednesday the
union executive will recommend
acceptance of the contract at a
meeting of local members Monday.
Members voted 72 per cent in
favor of strike action Oct. 12 if the
university failed to meet wage and
fringe benefit demands.
Shop steward Irene Mclntyre
said at that time a strike by the
office workers would shut down the
university when other workers
would refuse to cross OTEU picket
lines.
"An actual strike would only last
about four hours minimum before
the university would be forced to
shut down," she said.
University personnel director
John Maclean refused Wednesday
to comment on the tentative
agreement.
He would only say "a proposal is
under study" by administration
members.
asked why the operations Wilson
was investigating could not be done
on the university computer in the
civil engineering building.
Wilson replied the problem in
using UBC's computer lay in its
printout and the difficulty in
gaining access to it.
The computer Wilson wanted
used cards which are "much more
handy to the staff" than the big
printout sheets which coftie from
UBC's computer, he said.'
Angus countered there may be
difficulties in using the large
computer, but the advantages of
not having to pay $25,000 would
probably outweight these.
Other council members also
opposed the moves, asking Wilson
what the cost of training personnel
and paying trained personnel
higher wages would be.
He claimed the training would
only take three half-days and the
personnel who would be using the
machine is already the second-
highest paid member of the staff.
Angus declined to sit on the
committee set up through a council
motion to study the proposal, and
instead urged Wilson to investigate
other possibilities and make a
complete report to council.
In other business council moved
to take control of the Recreation
UBC steering committee.
The nine-person committee
which administers the Rec UBC
program, including the $5 fee,
currently has seven student
members. They are appointed by
Rec UBC director Ed Gautschi.
Council voted to ask Gautschi to
hand over to the society the power
to make all student appointments.
And in a complimentary motion,
council voted to ask those who may
be   appointed   to   uphold   the
society's position that the administration pay the full cost of the
Rec UBC program.
Len Marchant, one of Gautschi's
assistants, attended the council
meeting to defend Rec UBC, which
he admitted had been under heavy
attack from some students.
"We have a situation now where
people who don't think they should
have to pay the $5 are using the
facilities anyway and telling our
supervisors to fuck off when they
try to stop them," Marchant said.
Marchant said neither he nor
Gautschi could do anything about
who pays for the program but he
told council he thinks it is worthwhile.
He said the program includes
supervision, training and instruction plus late operating hours
for War Memorial gym, none of
which was provided before.
Wilson told Marchant he thinks
the program has some value — but
the main objection is that where
the administration was once encouraging recreation it now
discourages it.
"The administration used to
have compulsory physical
education," Wilson said. "It
abolished that and spent the money
saved somewhere else."
Marchant defended the success
of Rec UBC saying 2,300 people had
enrolled.
When asked how many people
stayed away, because of the $5 fee
or how many of those paying would
give up the training and supervision if they could get out of the
fee, he admitted he couldn't say.
"I don't think we care who
provides the money," Marchant
said. "We've just taken the fairest
See page 2: PIT Page 2
THE      UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 25, 1973
South African wine boycott supported
By BEN GELFANT
The South African action
coalition presented a brief to the
New Democratic Party caucus
Monday calling for the government
to remove all South African and
Portuguese alcoholic beverages
from government liquor stores.
Coalition spokesman Doug
Coward said Wednesday he is
optimistic about the caucus
response. However he said Attorney-General Alex Macdonald
may be reluctant to begin a ban on
Pit opens
From page 1
course possible in the  situation
we're in."
In other council business, the
formal PIT opening was set for
Nov. 19 and the informal opening
was left to the discretion of the
building manager.
Council also passed a motion to
approve the expenditure of $488 for
the speakers and education
committee to have Hardial Bains
and Leo Johnson come to UBC for a
discussion on the political economy
of Canada.
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South   African   and   Portuguese
liquors.
"He told us this might set a
precedent for banning wines from
Eastern European countries, Chile
and even France if there were
lobbies against them."
Coward said the group's aims
were directed solely against South
African and Portuguese oppression
because these are clear cases of
racial discrimination, as opposed
to ideological differences with the
countries Macdonald named.
However, he said Macdonald's
attitude changed after the brief
was presented.
"I think he was astonished at the
degree of preparation and the
backing the group represented,"
said Coward. He said housing
minister Lome Nicholson has
supported the group in writing.
The response from the rest of the
caucus was pleasing, Coward said.
Backbenchers seemed to support
the brief and cabinet ministers,
although cautious, were not antagonistic, he said.
The coalition plans to lobby at
the B.C. Federation of Labor next
Monday.    New    Westminister,'
Vancouver and district and Victoria labor councils have endorsed
the campaign and supplied funds,
said Coward.
The Canadian Labor Congress
has set the week of Dec. 10 for
solidarity with black South African
workers. A lobby will also be
present at the B.C. New
Democratic Party convention in
November, he added.
The thinking the coalition is
working against is best shown by
example, he said. A woman was
overheard in a liquor store
recently as she stood before the
cashier saying, "I'm not supposed
to buy this wine. I read that in The
Ubyssey." She paid for the wine
and left.
Coward suggests that anyone
wishing to do something positive
about the boycott should write his
member of the legislative
assembly or Attorney-General
Macdonald.
Argentine coup possible
By ANNE NIELSEN
A coup in Argentina is definitely possible, according to recent visitor Phil Courneyeur.
At a speech Wednesday Courneyeur, who took
part in demonstrations in Argentina in September,
said he is certain Argentina will be next to have a
coup. Argentina is now the only country in South
America not under military rule.
During the military coup in Chile, Argentinian
factories and schools closed down to stage nationwide protests, he said.
With the present repression in universities and of
the working class, Courneyeur said Argentina is
heading for revolution.
A member of the League for Socialist Action,
Courneyeur told of what he called "the super-
exploitation of U.S. imperialism".
He said the U.S. is seeking to protect its own
profit-making companies in South America through
political intervention.
Courneyeur claims that for the past three years
the Canadian government has been giving unofficial
support to the military regimes by refusing loans to
Canadian companies wishing to trade with the
Marxist Allende government.
The speech, which was followed by a period of
questions and discussion, was sponsored by the UBC
Young Socialists and the Canadian Committee for
Justice to Latin American Political Prisoners.
The UBC and Vancouver Young Socialists will be
sponsoring a speech on the Arab-Israeli conflict 8
p.m. Friday night at the Vanguard Forum, 1208
Granville.
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THE      UBYSSEY
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Polisci student union formed
By MARK BUCKSHON
Political science students met
Wednesday and formed a departmental union.
The association, like several
others in various arts departments, was formed in response to
proposed university rule changes
which would allow undergraduate
society representation on faculty
committees.
The 20 students present agreed
after some debate to a four-point
statement of purposes offered by
Gordon Cochrane, a member of a
steering committee formed in
September to establish the
association.
The points, roughly, expressed
goals to "further the interests of
political science students", to
provide opportunities for extracurricular social and study activities and "to act as liaison for
political science students with
other student groups and with the
arts faculty."
At one point Fred Lowther,
political science 3, asked what the
association's specific purposes
were.
In reply, Kim Pollock, another
steering committee member gave
the group's history.
"We established the steering
committee in September of this
ROW OF BARSTOOLS awaits arrival of bloated beer-drenched
behinds in new pit in SUB basement. Official opening of $250,000
facility has been set for Nov. 19, but doors will informally open to
—peter cummings photo
campus lushes some time before that. The Ubyssey staff will then take
on all comers in a drink-you-under-the-table piss-up so keep watching
year  but  it   fizzled   out,"   said
Pollock.
He said the original committee
split into two factions. "One
wanted the organization to be
strictly fraternal; to arrange
social events and things like that."
Pollock said the other faction
Vwanted the fraternal things but
also wanted to get involved in
academic matters."
Students present agreed that the
latter faction's ideas were similar
to theirs.
But Lowther said he opposes a
constitution clause proposing the
association represent political
science students with all levels of
the administration.
Instead he suggested the
association should "mostly be
concerned with the political
science department alone."
However, he said the association's
constitution should also provide for
wider activities in the arts faculty.
One student charged the temporary executive's composition
represented the Democratic
Students Caucus point of view
alone.
Pollock, while admitting
previous involvement with the
caucus said "that organization is
now disbanded." Cochran said,
"I'm returning to university after
four years absence so there's no
way I even know about the
caucus."
No final decision was made on
permanent executive members or
a detailed organizational structure
at the meeting.
Pollock said later the union will
meet again next week to elect the
executive and discuss approaching
the department for representation
on the curriculum committee.
He said no definite decisions
have been made yet on the type of
representation the union will seek
at either the department or arts
faculty level.
More grants to little faculties OK
The Alma Mater Society budget
committee Tuesday approved a
new financing formula which will
increase this year's grant to small
undergraduate societies and cut
those of the large faculties.
Total grants however, will be
$10,039, up from $9,408 last year.
The new formula proposed by
AMS treasurer John Wilson rejects
the "everybody equal" formula of
last year.
Under Wilson's formula undergraduate societies get a flat
$250 grant plus 35 cents for each
member up to 1,000 and 15 cents for
every student after that.
The Palmer proposal, employed
by last year's budget granted $200
plus 30 cents for every student
regardless of total membership in
the undergraduate society. (The
original Palmer proposal asked
$200 plus 40 cents per student.)
Under the new formula all but
the arts, education and science
societies get grant hikes.
Arts however gets $1,102, down
from $1,607 last year, science $$82,
instead of $1,235, and education
$819 instead of $1,103.
Wilson said the reason for the
change in grants is because there
are basic costs in co-ordinating an
activities program, regardless of
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Contentment in Chinese ed
ByDRUSPENCER
The Chinese educational system produces intelligent people with all-round competency and
contentment with life, said Graham Johnson, Wednesday noon in a lecture on the educational system in
China.
Johnson toured China in October and November
of 1971 and August of this year.
In China the classical notion of education and
classroom instruction are uprooted, he said.
The year is split up into 8.5 months in classrooms,
2 months holiday and 1.5 months practical work in the
fields or factories.
Their schools are called small, middle and large
as compared to elementary, secondary and
university.
Children of eight have a course list of politics,
math, Chinese, culture, education and a foreign
language.
Before applying for university, Chinese students
must first spend three years working in a factory or
commune. Their co-workers must then give their
recommendation for their university entrance.
The Chinese idea of education is theory and
practice, with no sex discrimination, he said.
After studying the theory of engines students
build engines to see their theories materialized.
Men and women learn all skills needed for
everyday life.
Johnson said the education process exists other
than in the school room.
Participation and involvement of all the people in
all facets of living and survival are stressed he said.
The basis for their educational system is according to the proverb: "How can you catch a tiger's
cubs without entering the tiger's cave?"
Application of knowledge helps people discover
themselves and in this way the talents of the Chinese
people are realized and utilized, he said.
A newly developed school in China with no
counterpart is a school called for training cadres.
It attempts to produce leaders for the Chinese
society.
The aim of this new school is to promote change
in typical leadership he said.
Leaders are not considered any better or any
worse than the common farm worker. If a leader was
touring a rice field and the people needed more help
the leader would roll up his socks and help.
Giving leaders an understanding of what
cleaning pig pens and thrashing grain is like gives
them a better understanding of life, he said.
The Chinese system of education is producing
men and women who are satisfied instead of disenchanted, he said.
how many students there are in a
society.
But with very large groups there
isn't much difference between the
cost of advertising to 3,000 or 4,000
people which is why memberships
above 1,000 are pro-rateH.
Wilson^lso said all grants would
have dropped this year if the
Palmer proposal applied because
the 1972-73 enrolment (18,863)' on
which this year's grants were
based was lower than the 1971-72
enrolment (19,540) on which last
year's grants were based.
The budget committee also
refused an application for a $3,000
loan to finance a proposed health
food restaurant for SUB 207-209.
The loan would have helped
student John McDonald set up the
facility which would have then
repaid the loan over the next three
years.
The committee instead
suggested McDonald seek alternate off-campus financing or
conduct a referendum for student
support.
The proposed facility would have
opened in January and operated
from 11:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Monday to Friday serving health
food meals at $1.00-a-plate.
McDonald calculated he would
serve 150 people-a-day and clear
$3,000 a month while expenses
would total $2,800 per month. At
this rate, operating only during the
winter session he could repay the
loan within three years.
But some committee members
said McDonald did not take into
account other expenses such as
fringe benefits, damage, and theft.
As well McDonald gave no
guarantee that the loan would be
repaid or that the restaurant would
continue to operate if he left
university, they said.
McDonald said any hidden expenses could be covered by raising
the price of food sold in the
restaurant. He also said he is
convinced that interest in campus
is such that the facility would be
successful and continue operation.
In other business the committee
granted $300 from the conference
fund to help finance a proposed
nutrition conference to be held at
UBC this spring.
The grant will cover operating
expenses while conference
organizer Les Rose solicits off-
campus the $5,000 in grants he
estimates he will require to put on
the event.
The committee also held Rose's
bank overdrawing powers to the
$300 limit while requiring that any
money left over the end of the
conference be returned to the
society for other conference uses.
And the committee denied an
Ontology club application for $200
to help finance a speakers program
and instead referred them to the
speakers committee.
The committee will continue
deliberations on Wilson's $684,000
budget ($151,000 of which is
discretionary allotments) this
week and will still take feedback
from interested parties early next
week. I
The committee will then pass the
amended budget by a two-thirds
majority before referring it to
council for final two-thirds approval and further amendments, if
any, Wednesday. Page 4
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OCTOBER 25,1973
Published   Tuesdays,   Thursdays   and   Fridays   throughout   the
university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of
B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the writer and not of the AMS
or the  university  administration.  Member,  Canadian University
Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly commentary
and review. The Ubyssey's editorial offices are located in room
241K of the Student Union Building.
Editorial  departments, 228-2301; Sports, 228-2305; advertising,
228-3977.
Co-editors: Vaughn Palmer, Michael Sasges
Ken Dodd is an asshole and a scoop-misser, said Lesley Krueger, Peter
Cummings, Alan Doree, Gary "the essay" Coull, Vaughn Palmer, Mark
Buckshon, Rick Lymer, Ron Konkin, Ralph Maurer, Tom Barnes, Marise
Savaria, Anne Neilsen, Jake van der Kamp, Kathy Carney, Michael Sasges,
Linda Hossie and Ben Gelfant.
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Flacks
Alma Mater Society council experienced a piece of the
real world Wednesday night — a flack.
A flack — a flunky, a go-between, a public relations
officer, the name doesn't matter — is a person someone in
power appoints to answer questions and handle bitches.
Recreation UBC head Ed Gautschi sent his flack to
council Wednesday, a student named Len Marchant.
The Ubyssey representatives on council were most
hostile to Marchant, not because he is Marchant, but
because Gautschi was absent, because Gautschi decided the
council representing 20,000 persons was not important
enough to hear the truth behind Rec UBC from the person
responsible for the program.
It happens all the time and when it happens, people like
Gautschi can never understand why they get bad press, as
Marchant admitted was the case Wednesday.
So Mr. Gautschi, the next time council or any other
public body wants to hear you at a public discussion, The
Ubyssey suggests you personally accept.
And Mr. Marchant, The Ubyssey doesn't really dislike
you, we just wanted you to get the message — we want Ed.
Rain off
Rain, puddles, umbrellas, grey, more puddles, wet
socks, cold toes, ruined notes.
Welcome to UBC — as it really is.
If you thought it was nice when the sun was shining,
the leaves were changing and people were walking to class,
you now are outaluck.
Because the sun don't shine no more — it won't until
next February — the leaves are dead, falling to the ground
to vanish into mulch under the muddy feet of people, who
wet and cursing, run everywhere.
Even when the sun manages to shine through as it did
late Wednesday afternoon, rain — big fat pellets of it —
blasts us.
A couple of remedies exist to ease this soggy condition
of life: quit school and move to Arizona; never move from
building to building as Ubyssey staffers who don't go to
classes on a press day; buy a sou'wester; hope for snow.
Don't buy an umbrella — someone will steal it — and
don't buy galoshes. Those black prophylactics for the feet
mark you as a non-Vancouverite, British-educated professor
or an up-and-coming graduate student in the classics
department.
In short, you've gotta learn to live with the stuff,
however miserable your life may be because of the
existential nature of the weather.
Letters
Rec UBC
Because your Tuesday editorial
mentioned the problem of
Recreation UBC, I hope you'll print
the letter on that subject which
Barbara Morris and I submitted on
Monday.
Further developments to that
letter: on Tuesday I received a Rec
UBC budget outline. Barb and I
had earlier written to administration president Walter
Gage asking him to release the
budget. The outline is not exactly
specific but we're told that part of
Rec UBC costs are covered by the
physed school — a $5,000 grant and
the paid time of people like Mr.
Gautschi. I've given a copy to The
Ubyssey so we can all know what it
says.
The main purpose of our letter
was to show the contributions
made by students and to raise the
question of a redefinition of
athletics. These points still stand.
Brian Loomes
AMS president
The letter from Loomes and
Morris follows. Because of space
requirements, The Ubyssey was
unable to publish it previously—
Eds.
Rec UBC 2
Instead of telling students
they're pampered and lazy
because they're not too happy
about paying $20 for athletics ($5
athletic fee, $5 pool fee, $5
Recreation UBC fee, $5 locker and
towel facilities) how about
bringing some facts to light.
For example, the following:
student contributions to campus
buildings amount to more than $6.5
million including $25,000 for the
women's gym, $39,000 for the
stadium, $367,000 for the War
Memorial gym, $185,000 for the
Thunderbird winter sports centre
and $925,000 (projected) for the
new pool.
These figures do not include the
money paid annually for hockey
and curling ice rentals, squash and
handball, swimming pool passes,
etc.
It's true that Recreation UBC
needs the student fees for
operating expenses. But, this is no
accident.
It's a policy of the university not
to cover the costs of the program.
This policy was arrived at in
consultation with last year's
executive. Alma Mater Society
students are not so enthusiastic,
however. A student introduced
motion in senate has established a
committee to examine the problem
of extra-curricular activities (no
report yet) and council recently
passed a motion asking the
university to absorb the cost of the
program.
The university may not be
making the money available, but
that's not the fault of students.
The situation is reminiscent of
the residence rent-hike fiasco of
last spring. The athletic budgets
including Recreation UBC are
nicely tucked away in some file.
Apparently, the majority of
students aren't supposed to see
them.
We think President Walter Gage
should release the budget.
Secondly, it has the all-too-
understandable character of the
rent increases.
We all know general costs are
increasing, and it must be as true
for an athletics program as
anything.
Here, we have two comments:
Seeing as how students aren't the
cuase of inflation (we suffer from
it), we don't think students should
passively accept its consequences.
It's possible to redefine, as
student senators have suggested,
the role of athletics on campus.
Our opinion, which we stated in a
recent letter to Gage, is that
athletics, particularly the intramural and Recreation UBC
types of programs, should be an
integral part of university life for
whoever wants the exercise and
recreation they offer.
If they were defined as such,
they would be covered by the
university budget. Then, it would
be incumbent upon the board of
governors and senate to deal with
the problem, i.e. ask the government for more money, instead of
passing it off onto students.
The passing of the buck includes
suggestions like the one we
received from the Recreation UBC
committee that we sit down with
the board to work out spending
priorities on campus.
We're not attacking the probably
sincere attempts of that committee
to offer a good program but we
think the idea ignores a couple of
points.
Students do not have equality
with the board. It runs the finances
of this place. The suggestion asks
us to accept their problems, as if
we were equals.
Instead, we think this problem of
money shortage should be looked
into.
Where does the money presently
go? What are the government's
spending plans for the university?
Is there a money shortage and if,
so, why?
Otherwise, this kind of problem
is just going to continue, not only in
athletics,   but   in   food   costs,
residence costs and even proposals <
for higher fees.
Brian Loomes
president
Barbara Morris
ams recreation representative
Clarify
Ryon Guedes' article on student
representation (The Ubyssey, Oct.
19) needs some clarification
regarding the student position.
Arts dean Doug Kenny said he
CAUt*^
wished to get students onto the
faculty committee as soon as
possible.
To do this he was bound by the
terms of the Prang report which
says the registrar will conduct the
elections.
The senate recommendation on
student representation would
allow undergraduate and graduate
societies to conduct the elections.
What Kenny could not justify
was starting the elections
procedures while the Prang report
still awaits senate approval.
The entire report is contentious
and its recommended election
procedures are in conflict with
those senate passed before the arts
faculty passed the Prang report.
Our objections to having the
elections conducted by the
registrar is that this method will
not provide student members who
will be representative of the
students.
Under this system nominations
would be sent to the registrar who
would send out mail ballots.
There would be no means by
which candidates could become
known to the students at large and
hence there would be little, if any,
basis for voting for one candidate
rather than another.
There would be no organized
group for elected persons to report
back to or to represent.
In effect, the student members
would be little more representative
than they would be if they were
selected at random.
The arts undergraduate society
is sending a brief to the senate
committee (meeting Oct. 24)
urging senate reject the Prang
report at its Nov. 14 meeting. We
shall urge instead that the elections be conducted by the students
themselves. (This does not mean
we accept the other recommendations of the Prang report.)
Mark Allan
arts undergraduate executive
Arab-Israeli
The quality of news reporting in
the latest Arab-Israeli War has
been disgusting in Canada. The
incredible ineptness displayed by
the CBC has left the few advocates
of government-owned broadcasting, including myself, out in
the cold Canadian winter. The rest
of Canada is doing what they have
done all along — watching the
American networks. To really
make things clear, the CBS
reporting has been laudable and
the other American networks have
not been far behind.
On CBC radio's As It Happens on
Oct. 10, Doug Collins of the CBC
made a series of remarks that
made him sound like a special
emissary of Egypt's president
Sadat. There were no protests from
the other members of the panel. In
general, the CBC's position has
changed little since the pro-Arab
bias   of   Stanley   Burke,   chief Thursday, October 25, 1973
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newscaster during the last war.
The network has been about a day
behind in reporting the events and
the version given is usually
recycled American film with
Canadian voices dubbed in and
little of the independent journalism
that has characterized the
American. Instead, what has been
given as official information has
been unverified propaganda.
Ben Metcalfe, free-lance radio
journalist, pointed out last week
that none of the Canadian media
have reporters based in the Middle
t East, though it has long been one of
the primary "hot spots" in the
world. It isn't at all like the sudden
flare-up in Biafra in 1968, when few
laymen knew about the brewing
conflict. This has been going on for
at least 25 years. Surely that is
enough time for the CBC and the
rest of die Canadian media to find
out where the Middle East is and to
get there instead of, having
Canadians rely on foreign aid for
news. Last Friday night, when
most of the media realized that
something was brewing, the CBC
had four news items about Canada
before they got to anything international. That was about Nixon,
Agnew and the boys.
Ben Gelfant
arts 3
CPC (ML)
Your editorial of Friday concerning the Communist Party of
Canada (Marxist-Leninist) _was a
little puzzling. While appearing to
recognize the rather obvious
stylistic defects in "the party's"
presentation of its line, you
nonetheless concede that it is "the
only viable alternative for people
dedicated to real change."
This is surely going too far. If it
^s true, we are in more desperate
shape than I thought.
The "vulgarity" of CPC (M-L)
marxism goes deeper than the
problems of "form". It is also a
matter of "content". No party that
calls itself communist but is totally
without roots in a mass
revolutionary movement has
understood anything at all about
Marxism-Leninism. No party that
can characterize the recent victory
of the New Democratic Party as
fthe result of a decision by the
monopoly capitalists to shift their
support from Social Credit to social
democratic has understood
anything about the class struggle
in B.C. or about the deep insight
into our situation that a living
marxism., not reduced to drab
cliches, can provide.
Now none of this would matter
much and only serves to place CPC
'M-D in a long and disreputable
tradition of left politics. It does not
even matter that the necessary
consequence of the poverty of their
own polemics is a vituperative
attack on any and every other
communist in Canada as a "social
fascist", "revisionist" or "police
agent". This kind of thing has an
even longer and sadder pedigree
on the left.
What really matters is that like
everything else the CPC (M-L) did
«tot fall from the sky. The superficiality of its analysis and its influence in some quarters at UBC
reflects a demand in the face of
ambiguity and complexity in our
social situation for a line which,
however unsatisfactory or incomprehensible, at least appears
to lead to a definite political
crogram.
The point is that a rigorous,
informed, scientific socialism is
absolutely essential to effective
political action, quite apart from
being the guts of Marxism-
Leninism. Having recognized this,
communists can only be satisfied
when they have created "a viable
alternative" to CPC (M-L), one
^hat recognizes that monopoly
i capitalism is not so moribund, yet,
that mere incantations will
precipitate its collapse.
Your article on the "mass
democracy meeting in the Oct. 17
paper was a good example of the
inclination, common even among
leftists, to treat the CPC (M-L) as
just silly. This approach, however,
although having the merit of
saving everyone time, is not only
unkind, but unmarxist.
Now it appears "the party" is
being taken seriously and that
communists must point out to those
sympathetic to socialism and to
those socialist sympathetic to the
CPC (M-L) that it represents
neither the best of left-wing politics
nor the only alternative to reformist parties.
Perhaps the worst part of all this
is that it has become necessary to
write a letter criticizing people
who are after all communists.
David Mole
former AMS treasurer
Appreciation
I would like to extend my
heartfelt appreciation to Mr.
Robinson for "clarifying the issue"
so obscured by The Ubyssey in
Tuesday's issue. While I agree that
The Ubyssey is more interested in
sensationalizing political bickering
than it is in accurately reporting
the facts, I hardly regard Mr.
Robinson as an oracle of the truth.
Not only is his analysis of the
science undergraduate society
misleading and inaccurate, but it is
also the product of an individual
out of science for two years and
who made his judgements from the
observation of a single council
meeting.
All personal vilifications aside, I
would like to take this opportunity
to state the policy of the SUS with
regard to student representation.
First of all, we did not lick the
boots of science dean George
Volkoff in a plea for a mere five per
cent representation.
We were offered five per cent,
and accepted it as a temporary
measure. We are certainly not
against the principle of 25 per cent
representation which student
senators have managed to obtain
in their struggle for parity. In fact,
we would be the first to welcome
the measure were we only in a
position to take advantage of it.
Our undergraduate society has
been virtually non-existent for the
past few years. At present, we are
in the process of revival. We have
limited resources and manpower
and we must first undertake the
task of publicizing our existence as
well as our goals, because most
science students have never heard
of the SUS. We have no clear idea
of how successful we will be in
organizing science students, nor do
we have any notion of how long this
process will take. This being the
situation it would be the height of
absurdity for us to demand 25 per
cent representation.
Indeed, we might well have
problems getting 10 students to
attend faculty meetings. To accept
five per cent, as a temporary
measure, is to be pragmatic. To
demand 25 per cent is to live in
cloud cuckoo land. At present, we
are attempting to stimulate more
active student involvement in SUS.
If we are successful, then, and only
then, will we be in a position to
demand 25 per cent representation.
And then we will demand it!
Secondly, our policy with regard
to the faculty is not that of the
relationship betw.een master and
slave. Initially, the SUS was
willing to co-operate with the
faculty, which we believed was a
reasonable, mature attitude.
Unfortunately, the results of the
department heads' meeting made
it quite clear that a policy of cooperation will not work. The
department heads indicated that
they would not accept the department associations which we are
trying to organize.
Therefore, the SUS council
decided to adopt a more radical
policy. Because Bursill-Hall was
reluctant to adopt the council's
decision, he was given an
ultimatum. Either he could act
accordingly to the new policies of
the SUS or he could resign. He
chose the latter course of action.
In closing, we in the SUS do not
regard ourselves as simple-minded
serfs. Neither do we intend to
accept five per cent representation
as anything more than a stop-gap
measure. We believe that science
students should play an active role
in their own education and we
intend to fight the autocratic
control of the faculty.
Charlene Moriarty
SUS vice-president
Honored
I am indeed honored to be the
subject of science senator Svend
Robinson's wrath in Tuesday's
Ubyssey; to have so high and
mighty an intellect take note of my
sins is a rare occurrence. I do hope
that Svend feels better now.
Having publicized his ignorance,
and by degenerating to personal
attacks demonstrated the con-
temptable level of his political
thinking, I think we can all look
forward to law student Robinson's
resignation as science senator.
Piers Bursill-Hall
mathematics 5
Sitting
I was sitting in Buchanan, in
room ... you know... the only room
where everyone understands
everything; the only place where
things get done. Having finished
my intense contemplation I rose
and was immediately attacked,
from the rear, by a cowardly,
spring-loaded, double-pronged
porcelain villain. It grabbed my
protruding shirt-tail, and pulled
me back into the position I had
been assuming but a few seconds
before. No doubt you realize the
results! No doubt you chuckle and
remember the fellow walking
through Sedgewick Library in that
awkward fashion.
As an upstanding student, with
my feet planted firmly on the
ground, I demand protection from
these unscrupulous characters.
Toilet Trained
Hope
In your issue of Friday, M.
Greenall has sarcastically attacked David Lewis' remarks on
"flagrant Arab aggression".
Writes Greenall, "Your comments
... have cleared my mind ..." After
reading the letter, I can only
agree: Greenall's mind must have
been quite vacant to write it. The
inferred comparison of present
Israeli military activities to Nazi
German aggression is both unfortunate and ironic. The irony
stems from comparing Jews to
their greatest persecutor,
Hitlerian Germany. For the rest,
Greenall's remarks only parrot the
tiresome whining of the Russian
government, and the discordant
screeching of its running dogs —
subservient Canadian Communists.
For Communists to invoke the
Hitler image in denigrating Israel
is both unnecessary and unwise.
Surely some parallel could be
found which would not recall to our
minds the sordid Soviet record. It
is difficult enough for Western
observers to forget that the
totalitarian Bobbsey Twins —
Russia and Nazi Germany —
jointly raped Poland in 1939, and
that Stalin's protectorates
replaced Hitler's in post-war
Europe. Yes, indeed, the Communists should leave Hitler lie and
try to limit themselves to more
current events.
In their present struggle both the
Arabs and Israelis have a defen
sible raison d'etre. Surely the
present war is as regrettable as
were those in the past, and a
Middle East settlement is
desirable. But let us have no more
extremist harangue, nor odious
comparison.
I hope for peace and Greenall's
education.
A.T. Emerson
lawl
Lounge bitch
They've done it again! The
students have been left out in the
cold. As of Oct. 15, Angus
"student" lounge was formally
converted into a study hall for
commerce students. Warning of
this foul deed was given in the
commerce undergraduate society
Cavalier, when they explained that
because the graduate study room
had been taken over by the
printing department, the undergraduate study must be taken
over by the grads.
This means the Angus lounge
had to be converted into a study
hall for undergrads. OK, so Angus
is the commerce building and this
is their right, but Angus lounge was
used by students from other
faculties and it was appreciated
and not abused. *
Now this "lounge area" has been
turned into a private study hall for
those students who were quickest
at claiming carralls by attaching
name tags and time tables and
leaving books indefinitely.
There are a multitude of areas
for study on campus and relatively
few areas for relaxation. I feel
these people could easily take up
quarters in the Sedgewick library,
returning Angus lounge to its
previous state so more could enjoy
and use it. I am sure there are
many who share my views
strongly.
Ed Herner:
science 3
Trash
This is a complaint about the
mungy condition of the SUB
basement floor.
Tuesday as I was walking across
this floor I became impaled upon a
huge wad of gum and if not for the
efforts of a crew of muscular
varsity outdoors club members I
would still be there.
Perhaps this situation can be
related to the recent refusal by the
Alma Mater Society to allow the
Georgia Straight to distribute free
on campus.
It is possible that Dan McLeod
could have thrown his gum down in
disgust at the AMS decision or
perhaps to entrap an unsuspecting
AMS president and then to leap
out, beating his brains to within an
inch of intelligence.
However if you believe this, you
are indeed a gullible radish.
I propose that gum chewing be
made illegal and punishable by
making such offenders read trash
like this letter.
I. Parkinson
arts 1
The Ubyssey welcomes letters
from all readers.
Though an effort is made to
print all letters received, The
Ubyssey reserves the right to edit
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American
imperialism
Another classy debate, American Imperialism in Canada: myth
or reality, will be held noon today
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Sponsored by the Alma Mater
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Screwing 'em
Canada's relationship to developing countries: Are we saving
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Job's Garden, a film examining
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99 — Miscellaneous Thursday, October 25, 1973
THE      UBYSSEY
Page 7
YOU MAY BE WONDERING what the empty chair is for. Don
Hubbert, our sports editor has resigned. We'll try to truck on without
him for the rest of the year.
Sports flashes
X-country
UBC women won the Pacific
Northwest Championship crosscountry meet Saturday at UBG.
Thelma Wright of UBC won the
wet 4,000 metre race with a time of
12:57.8. Second and third were
taken by Debbie Quartier and
Vickie Foltz of the Seattle Falcons.
Caroline Van der Poll of UBC came
fourth with Sheila Currie edging
out Kathy Kuyk of Seattle for fifth
place. This gave UBC a slim 10-11
point victory in the reverse scoring
system.
Joan Dyke placed twelfth and
' Jean Sparling 28th for the winning
UBC team.
The UBC men's cross country
team placed second behind the
Vancouver Olympic Glub by a
score of 39-51. Western Washington
State College finished third.
John Wheeler finished first for
UBC with a time of 29:45 over
10,000 metres. Chris White placed
fourth and Duncan Klett came
tenth for the teams standing.
j. Coach Lionel Pugh said the team
will enter the B.C. cross-country
championships Saturday at
Brockton Point.
Basketball
The 1973-74 women's basketball
season gets underway next week.
Last year's women's champions,
the Thunderettes look strong again
this year. Coach Ron Thorsen has
the team practicing six days a
week. Returning from last year are
Bev Barnes, Debbie Phelan, Liz
Silcott, Kathy Burdett and Vicki
Williams. From last year's jayvees
are Judi Kent, Penny Sinden,
Louise Zerbe and Nora Ballantyne.
Newcomers to the team are Carol
Turney and Carole Wilson. Turney
has had two years of experience on
the national team while Wilson
played in the Eldorado Senior A
team. The team's first league
game is in November.
Soccer
For the first time in their history
the UBC Thunderbirds soccer
team will compete in the Canada
West University Soccer Championship at the University of
Victoria October 26, 27 and 28.
Coach Joe Johnson will take a
strong 16 man team to Victoria
where they will meet the
University of Alberta on Friday
and the University of Saskatchewan on Saturday. On Sunday
they'll play twice, in the morning
against the University of Calgary
and in the afternoon against the
University of Victoria.
The University of Alberta Golden
Bears are the defending champions in the west as well as the
defending national champions.
The winner of the tournament
travels to St. John's Newfoundland, in November for the
Canadian National Championship.
The 'Birds recently concluded
their southern United States tour
winning all five games.
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ByRONKONKIN
Last Thursday a division II hockey game took
place between kappa sigma and alpha delta phi. The
rule of wearing a mouthguard was disputed by a
player of kappa sigma, Ray Pucinen.
If anyone gets injured on the ice and that player is
not wearing proper equipment, then medical insurance will not cover the injury.
Pucinen refused to wear a mouthguard after he
was warned twice. He was then given a two minute
minor which, due to his verbal attack, led to a 10
minute misconduct.
After this misconduct was handed out, Pucinen
proceeded to punch the referee. This has lead to his
suspension in intramurals for the year.
There will be a referees self-defence clinic at 8:30
p.m. tonight.
The cross-country cycle race was held on Sunday.
Mike McPhalen of law was the winner with Malcolm
Gray of Alma a close second. Simon Tarn and Steve
Blackburn were third and fourth respectively.
All unit managers should come to room 308,
Memorial gym and check out the default board. If
this same pace is kept up we have a good chance of
beating the old default record.
The arts 20 race will be held today at noon. All
faculties are invited to take part. The race starts in
front of Vancouver General Hospital.
Due to log jams on the Vedder river, the river run
has been postponed until Nov. 4. Seventy people are
entered in the first running of this event.
The curling bonspiel will be on Saturday and
Sunday, staring at 8 p.m. Draws are posted outside
room 308 in the War Memorial gym.
The contract mile has been rescheduled for Nov. l.
There will be another cycle drag on Nov. 8. Entry
deadline is Nov. 2. Football playoffs start on Sunday.
The schedule is posted in room 308 of the War
Memorial gym.
Fight night in Canada
ByALANDOREE
". . . this is pro hockey at its
best, folks. Genghis Khan just took
Attila the Hun into the boards
breaking a stick over the Hun's
head. No blood drawn, so no points.
Now the Hun brings down Khan in
full flight by lasso and pulls him
oack to the corner.
"The fans are getting their
money's worth this .period. Some
are even joining in, reaching over
the boards to strangle the player of
their choice.
"Now  Khan  gets   a   penalty!
Touching the puck with his stick
intentionally! He protests to no
avail. As fast as he smashes refs to
the ice replacements are sent out."
"A good example, Don, of the
strength needed to survive in this
league. Khan put great hits on 12
refs before collapsing exhausted."
"Hope the kids saw it, Nick, but
not that cheap penalty. Khan'll be
fined by the commissioner for that
one.
"Now Khan tears the mesh from
his goal and snares the Hun. He
steps on the Hun's throat, raises
Letters
I don't believe it. John
Whitehead must have caught a
slapshot in the head, because his
letter has to be the most absurd
I've ever seen in your pages. Why
did you print it — comic relief?
"It is not the player's fault that
rough play occurs." Yeah, right.
The referee is to blame. I've just
spent the last winter playing a 20-
game hamburger hockey league
season.
There were no referees. The
rules were no raising the puck
above the knees, and keep it clean.
Aside from bruises, the one injury of the year was a chipped
tooth when somebody tripped and
hit a player's helmet with his
mouth.
Our goalies only had knee-pads
his stick above his chest and looks
to the crowd."
"He'll get it, Don, after defying
that penalty call."
"Right as usual, Nick. The
Coliseum crowd gives the thumbs
down sign and Khan drives his
stick through the Hun's chest."
"Our slo-mo instant replay
shows the great wood Khan got on
that shot, Don."
"Yes. The hometown team goes
out victorious, their fans go out
rabid. Good-bye from Blood Sports
Night in Canada."
and a cup. We all had a great time,
and not once did fighting come
close to breaking out.
And this was in a city of pulp and
aluminum mill workers, not a
university.
Therefore, I must conclude that
either the writer is a gorilla on the
loose, or a storm-trooper in exile.
Kevin McGee
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THE      UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 25, 1973
By LINDA HOSSIE
Medieval persecution of witches may have been no
more than a cover-up for a hatred of women, Fran Isaacs
told a women's meeting Monday.
Isaacs, one of the organizers of the 1972-73 women's
studies program, was lecturing on women and witchcraft to
about 150 persons in the SUB ballroom.
She quoted from a book published about 1484, the title of
which, roughly translated means the hammer to hit witches
with.
The book explained that most witches are women by
citing female characteristics condusive to evil: women are
wicked ("all wickedness is little compared to the
wickedness of women"), women are more naturally impressionable and so more easily taken in by the devil,
women have "slippery tongues" and are unable to conceal
the evil they know.
"This last reason is quite perceptive," Isaacs said,
adding that the inferior position of women in medieval
times may have led them to try witchcraft as a way of increasing their power.
"The question is, can you believe the description of
witches, because the same hostile language is used to
describe women as (is used to describe) witches," Isaacs
said.
Modern day witchcraft is an extension of an older
culture that emphasized women using their own powers,
she said.
"Our culture, with its long tradition of misogeny,
existed side by side with the witchcraft culture."
Isaacs said Christianity was originally a Jewish sect
and Jews had long been "excising from their own history
any hint of their matriarchal background."
"Jews have a daily prayer in which they thank God
they are not women," Isaacs said.
Of
witches
and
women
"And out of this culture came Christianity."
Certain of the powers of which witches were accused,
such as causing abortion, stopping fertility in women and
eating children, were a special threat to the Catholic
church, Isaacs said.
"The history of witchcraft is really a history of the
witch trials."
She said the witchcraft cults may have been the "real
religion of the masses" in medieval Europe because witches were not aware of the dangers of talking about their
religion.
Witchcraft researcher Margaret Murray suggests the
witchcraft cult may have simply been a fertility cult, Isaacs
said.
She said witches admitted to consorting with a dark
god, a goat-like, horned god who was cold to the touch and
"spoke with a high shrill voice."
Isaacs suggested the god may have been a real man in
skins, wearing a mask and added that he probably employed an artificial phallus during fertility rites.
Witches were accused of creating storms, healing over
distances, flying to sabbaths or witch festivals and
depriving men of their penises, Isaacs said.
"So you can see being called a castrating bitch is not a
new experience," she added.
Isaacs said witches smeared ointment containing
hallucinogenic drugs on their bodies which may have
created the illusion of flying.
They had knowledge of poisonous and medicinal herbs,
she said.
Isaacs told a story of a child who conjured a rain storm
for her father's farm during a drought and whose mother
was burned to death for teaching the daughter this craft
after the husband discovered it and turned her in.
"We are more culturally related to the man who got his
wife burned than to the woman," Isaacs said.
Joan of Arc probably was a witch, Isaacs said.
She said the voices she heard prompting her to lead
France into battle were probably the voices of real people
taking part in a witch ritual and the soldiers who followed
Joan into battle were probably brought up in a witchcraft
culture and believed Joan to be an embodiment of the goat
god.
All witches were burned and their ashes thrown into
running water, Isaacs said.
Witches were not supposed to cry but, according to the
'hammer to hit witches with', if they did cry it could be
assumed the weeping was in accord with some purpose of
the devil, she said.
"So it was damned if you did, damned if you didn't."
Witch suspects were thrown into a river. If they floated
they were guilty and if they drowned they were innocent,
Isaacs said.
"It was a good way to get rid of a lot of witches or
women."
Isaacs said archeologists have uncovered a city named
Catal Huyuk that may have operated under a matriarchal
society.
There were no human or animal sacrifices in this
society, the people were vegetarians and they had lived for
1,000 years in peace, she said.
"I'm not saying a matriarchy actually existed," Isaacs
said.
"But there was some sort of culture where women were
highly valued."
A religion based on the Roman goddess of the hunt,
Diana, bore striking similarities to Christianity which has
adopted pagan elements to undermine pagan religions,
Isaacs said.
She said according to legend Diana conceived a child by
her brother Lucifer, the sun, and a girl was born whose*
purpose was to be turned into a mortal and go down to earth
to teach witchcraft and so free the downtrodden.
Witches have traditionally used their powers for good,
Isaacs said.
She cited stories of witch covens banding together to
create the storm that defeated the Spanish Armada.
Stories exist that during the Second World War witches
in England raised a psychic force or cone of power to block
Hitler from success, she said.
But as witches were persecuted they went underground
and began to use their powers to protect themselves, Isaacs
said.
"Witchcraft is part of women's heritage," she said,*
adding the strong women in our own history, such as the
suffragettes, have been played down in history books.
"It's time to drag out of the closet all our ancestresses
and examine their powers," Isaacs said.
"I don't think we should rush back to a matriarchy or
witchcraft. We should just keep open the suggestion that we
may have (psychic powers)."
"I find it inspiring and energy-giving to find that our
ancestresses were amazing people and that their powers lie
within us."
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