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Founded in 1918
Vancouver, B.C., Friday, October 19, 1990
Vol 73, No 13
Vanier-letter protestors critiquing demonstration after confrontation with Vanier residents
Sparks fly over march on Cariboo
by Raul Peschiera, Mark Nielsen
and The Ubyssey staff
A group of 40 demonstrators
were met with jeers and chants
when they marched on Cariboo
House on Thursday night to protest
the distribution of obscene letters
to women living in Place Vanier
About 350 residents chanted
such things as "go home" and
"bullshit"as the protestors tried to
speak out against the incident.
Approximately 300 women
living in Vanier woke up on October 11 to find letters inviting them
to a tug-of-war contest. A number
threatened rape and other violence
if the women did not attend.
Many ofthe letters have since
been handed over to the RCMP,
Another $6000
in AMS referenda
1. Extended Health Plan:
Yes: 1539
No; 932
Spoiled; 31
2. $5 AMS Fee Increase:
Yes: 1205
No: 1092
Spoiled: 132
3. SUB Concourse
Office Allocation:
Yes:     , 1760
No: 610
Spoiled: 68
All three questions failed to
meet tbe estimated quorum of
2800 in favour.
(Unofficial rvxultx)
who are conducting an investigation . Further university action has
been postponed pending the result
ofthe investigation.
At many points during the one
hour protest, shouting matches
broke out as the onlookers taunted
the demonstrators'for their shouts
of "shame."
Carrying torches, the marchers gathered around the entrance
to Cariboo House and, with the
help of a bullhorn, took turns
voicing their outrage.
Linking the letters to the
massacre of 14 women at the Ecole
Polytechnique in Montreal last
year, demonstrator Penny Singh
said they are both inherently acts
of violence against women.
Another protestor, Daniel
Rippner, said, "There were letters
written that threatened to maim,
rape and kill women. I don't think
that's a very funny joke."
Most of what the speakers said
was drowned out by the heckling of
the crowd encircling the protesters.
Four RCMP officers were on hand
"to keep the peace," as one officer
put it. Though tempers flared, the
demonstration proceeded peacefully.
The crowd's reaction to the
protesters indicated resentment
and frustration.
Sara Campbell, a resident of
Place Vanier.said she was angry
because she felt the protesters
implied that the women thought
the incident was a joke.
"We are not laughing at rape,"
Campbell said. "This is not a rape
issue. We treated the letters seriously, but it has all got out of hand.
(The protesters) are distorting and
using this issue for themselves."
Ellen Pond, a former Place
Vanier resident and demonstrator, disagreed.
"I'm a survivor of Vanier residence," Pond said. "I'm not really
shocked about (how the crowd reacted). I'm really glad this happened or else nothing would have
happened here."
Most ofthe residents believed
that the men who wrote the letters
did not mean to harm anyone.
"The letters were just rude,"
said Place Vanier resident Erika
Kasai. "But I don't think that (the
male residents) meant to insult us.
They did it to disgust themselves,
not to disgust us. They just didn't
think how (the letters) would affect us."
Later, when a woman resident was allowed the use of the
bullhorn, she told the protesters
that the incident "had got out of
hand" and the marchers were not
welcome. The residents reacted
with a cheer.
Throughout the demonstration, the protesters were subjected
to shouted threats—such as "kick
the shit out of them." Only when
the demonstrators indicated they
were leaving Place Vanier did the
crowd become less aggressive and
moved tolet the protesters march
The protestors said the event
was a success, despite the negative and sometimes hostile response they were given by Vanier
"I'm really proud of the people
here and what we did," one ofthe
organizers said.
Province backs Native education
by Liz Stephenson
Advanced Education, Training
and Technology Minister Bruce
Strachan has announced a provincial plan to improve Native Indian access to post-secondary
education in British Columbia.
The strategy includes counselling and support services, Nati ve
Language Teacher Training, curriculum materials for Native students and financial support to
native post-secondary institutions.
The plan was structured according to recommendations produced by the Provincial Advisory
Committee on Native Post-Secondary Education.
In order to assess the available
funds, Native organizations will
have to submit applications for financial assistance.
AccordingtoProvincial Public
Affairs representative Brett
Thompson, the exact amount of
money available has not been determined.
Thompson said the provincial
government is "asking for proposals from various institutions and
until we have the proposals, no
dollar figure can be set.''
A Native Indian Teacher's
Education Program (NITEP)
spokesperson said her organization had not been sent information
on the application procedure for
the funds.
She said if the information
was received, NITEP "would consider submitting a proposal for additional fundi ngforcounsellingand
Native Language programs."
She said the success of the
NITEP request would "depend on
how much money is available; we
must compete with other proposals."
Native Indian Student Union
president Francis Dick said the
proposed provincial strategy was
"&ood news if they follow through".
Dick said the provincial government often proposes "goodideas
with no action behind them" and
she hopes this will not be the case
with the current strategy.
"Native students always need
support to counselling and Native
language programs," Dick said.
Musqueam Band Council
member Arnie Hayashi said the
provincial strategy lacked any real
Hayashi said the proposal was
a political statement made because
the government "can't afford politically to be seen as not paying
attention to Indian affairs because
of provincial and national situations."
He said the provincial government "works the political favour
side of programs much harder than
the practical side."
Hayashi said the provincial
government often makes "huge
public announcements about programs before having the bugs
worked out."
He said the education department ofhis band had not received
information on how to apply for
the financial assistance.
Thompson said the strategy
was announced early because the
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which had been set up to provide
recommendations, produced their
report ayear early and the ministry
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October 19, 1990 NEWS
Native students get offical voice on AMS
by Matthew Johnson
"We now have one foot in the
door," said Frances Dick, presi dent
ofthe Native Indian Student Union
(NISU). "The AMS council has set
the precedent."
After an intense, spirited, and
sometimes emotional debate, AMS
council passed a motion creating a
non-voting Native students' representative on council. In a related
motion   they   named   Sandee
Doxtdator, NISU vice-president,
to the position.
"People have always been
speaking for us," Doxtador said.
"To be able to speak our mind is
going to be really refreshing. We
have to tear down the barriers,
and just having someone participate will help greatly."
Before the vote, debate raged
in the council chambers. Some
members, such as Senate rep Rob
McGowan, felt that rather than
New Native rep speaks
by Matthew Johnson
As of October 17, 1990, Native Indian Student Union vice-
president Sandee Doxtdator can
claim a bit of history. She is the
first native students rep on the
AMS council.
"This is really groundbreaking. We no longer need a go
between on the council; I can
speak with an equal voice,"
Doxtdator said.
The purpose ofthe position,
according to Doxtdator, is to allow native students to be aware
of what is going on, what the
AMS is doing, and where the
money goes. Doxtdator said native students feel left out, and
want to feel like they belong.
"It's hard for native students
coming into post secondary education. They are breaking new
ground coming into the university and becoming involved," she
One ofthe main concerns of
Native students is racism, she
said. And one ofthe ways of combatting this problem is education.
"There's so much fear of minorities here, and it's based on
the idea of "what native people
will take away from me as a
person,'" she said. "We have to
bring this out into the public and
talk about it."
Doxtdator said Native students want to have an exchange
of information to show what
council does, so they can become
more involved, expressing support or opposition to the motions
and speaking their minds.
"To be a part ofthe process is
... one step closer towards understanding each other. People have
always been speaking for us.
We've always maintained our
rights to our land and our sovereignty. We don't want to lecture,
we want to talk," she said.
"One thing that we are
taught as children is that our
actions affect seven generations
behind us and seven generations
into the future. It makes us stop
and think more about our actions.
Ifyou come in with an open heart
and an open mind things can get
accomplished," Doxtador said.
have a non-voting rep, interested
students should bring their concerns to council and speak out on
relevant issues as visitors.
"I'm worried about the precedent," he said. "Do we want 30
voting members, and up to 250
non-voting members with a voice
but no vote?" he said.
Education rep Vicki Tsang
said that she was concerned that
"[other ethnic] groups will say
"well, what's the difference between native students and us?'"
Other council reps disagreed.
Planning rep Marc Coulombe said,
"it would behoove us to invite participation from other groups as a
Library rep MarkHiltz agreed,
saying "what's wrong with pulling
up another chair? Isn't that what
we want?" This was followed by
applause in the chambers.
Coulombe proposed a cultural
council that could bring forward
motions and discussion on cultural
issues. Such a council could have
one rep sit on AMS council in a full
voting position.
"If we have meetings in the
war memorial gym, and have 250
non-voting reps, isn't that the
democratic ideal we want?"he said.
In expressing the importance
of the motion, Arts rep Mark
Keister said, "I must urge people
not to trivialize this in comparison
to other groups."
Abby Majendie, also an Arts
rep, told cou ncil members to "throw
out the idea ofa 'minority rep' on
council. We would be having a native rep in their own right. The
First Nations people have always
been excluded from politics, but
have been here from the beginning.
If we don't address (the lack of
native involvement in politics) on
this level, when will it be addressed? UBC is sitting on
Musqueam land, we need to set
this precedent."
As the debate heated, grad
Student rep Swamy Yeleswaram
said, "I'm sick and tired of hearing
'I'm not racist, but...' He reiterated
a point many council members
raised, saying, "ifyou run for student office you represent students,
not the minority."
The vote itself was not without
controversy as a procedural motion was raised by Majendie requiring for a roll call vote. Some
members raised concerns, saying
that they were afraid the "No's"
would be branded as racists. Others felt that the importance ofthe
vote and the chance of setting a
precedent warranted a roll call
vote. After the motion was passed,
three council members left the
chambers and did not participate
as the vote was being taken.
Engineering Undergrad Society president Daren Sanders who
left meeting said, "I have to represent all the members of my society,
including opposing views. Being a
representative, my personal views
have to be put aside. I decided that
I wasn't going to vote yes, no, or
abstain in a roll call vote. If it was
a regular vote, I would have voted
freely," he said.
AMS vice-president Johanna
Wickie left as well. "Some student
council members were trying to
make a point that didn't need to be
made," she said.
Only one person, AMS coordinator of external affairs Jason
Brett, voted against the motion.
"It's precedent setting, and I think
it's a poor precedent to give anyone
special privileges or deny special
privileges based on genetic makeup. It's what got us into this mess
in the first place," he said.
Brett based his dissent on the
idea that the AMS should encourage natives to run on Senate, Board
of Governors, and AMS.
"We have to consider other
minorities. Our ancestors have not
been nice to anyone of a different
skin color. Creating a position
which is based solely on racial
grounds seems an affront to the
democratic process. Irecognizethat
pro-active measure s are nece ssary,
but there is a fine line between
pro-active and reverse discrimination, and I think we've crossed
it," he said.
"Now what we do is see if I'm
wrong about having this damage
democracy, and I hope I am," Brett
Illegal pay delays frustrate
by Sophia Harris
Due toa backlog of paperwork,
the UBC work study program has
violated BC labour laws by failing
to pay some students before the
end ofthe month of September.
Paragraph 2, Section 4 of the
BC Employment Standards Act
statesemployeesmustreceive their
pay cheques no later than eight
days after the end of the pay period.
Although the pay day for the month
of September was October 7, some
students are still waiting for their
"It's along process," said UBC
finance employee, Kristie
Hendrickson. "There are hundreds
of students in the work study program. We simply have too much
volume and September is always a
busy month. Unfortunately, there
is still a backlog and some students
still do not have their cheques."
One student, who wished to
remain anonymous for fear of losing her job, did not receive her pay
cheque for September until October 19.
"I asked for my cheque the
Monday after payday, and nobody
knew where it was," she said.
"Payroll told me that my department was to blame. So I went to my
department on the 10th, and they
called all over the place and discovered that nobody had ever heard
of me. Awards, finance, payroll,
"Awards told me that there's
800 other students who have not
received their cheques on time
because of a backlog of paperwork,
she said."
On the llth, the student went
to payroll to demand her cheque.
"I told payroll that I needed
my payment. I hadn't got my student loan yet, and I had no money
to eat with," she said.
Hendrickson was able to find
the form that permitted the
student's cheque to be issued.
"She dug out my form from the
bottom of stacks and stacks of papers," the student said. "Then she
told me to come back next week.
When I told her that this is against
legislation, she was totally flabbergasted and she said she'll see
what she can do.
"The next day she phoned me
and told me that she took the piece
of paper over to finance herself in
order to allow the cheque to be
issued," she said.
"So I make a big fuss," she
said, "and I get my pay cheque. But
how many other students still have
not got their cheques? I also wonder if I'm going to have to go
through this again."
When asked how she fel t about
UBC violating BC Labor Legislation, the student said, "UBC think's
that they're above the law. They
never have to pay attention to BC's
legislation for employment standards. They treat us like we're
sub-human. It's ridiculous."
The student said UBC might
not be paying students on time in
order to earn more interest in the
"The banks give you 12% interest a year; that's.1% interest a
month. If 500 students work ten
hours a week, at eight dollars an
hour, UBC would make $133 in
interest a day. Every day that UBC
holds students' payments, they
make $133," she said.
UBC Financial Services director Byron Hender said the delay in payments to students in the
work study program is common.
"There is normally a delay in
getting the first paycheques out to
students," Hender said. "It happens. Payroll people do the best
they can. It is a heavy workload
Now painted over graffiti on the boarded up Bus Stop
Cafe offended Native students and many others.
by Brenda Wong
Engineering Undergraduate
Society Internal Liason Officer
Nicole Kohnert proposed specific
plans for the joint potlatch and
conference being held as compensation for
the offensive
published last
Five panels
for discussing discrimination, the
Charter of Rights, academic freedom, and the EUS's behaviour
last year are planned for the
conference. Participants on the
panel will include off campus
experts, students, and faculty.
No funds for the conference
have been allocated.
EUS representative Evie
Wehran presented a request for
funds to travel to the Canadian
Engineering Student Publications
Conference at Queen's University.
The conference will address
"the image of Engineering and how
it is portrayed" in student media.
Council allocated $400 towards travel expenses for two students to attend the conference.
Faced with forming a response
to the B.C. Organization to Fight
Racism's letter to AMS President
Kurt Preinsperg, council declined
taking any further action.
Last month council had affirmed CiTR's music policy to interpret music itself, but not specifically the song "Welcome to the
Terrordome"    by
Public Enemy.
AMS Anti-Discrimination Committee member
Ellen Pond said the
most effective action to take
would be to bring the letter to the
attention of the committee as a
focal point for discussion.
Former AMS anti-discrimination coordinator Carol Hui sai d
Hillel House has been consulted
and asked to forward Jewish
students' points of view.
October 19, 1990
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by Mark Nielsen
The media did not tell the
whole story about the standoff at
Oka, Quebec, said Jenny Jack and
Beverly Scow, two UBC students
who joined the Mohawks behind
the blockades this summer.
Contrary to the images of serious negotiations and fair treatment of the natives involved, the
pair told of lies, deceit and even
"You need to know that what
you've heard from media is not all
that happened," Jack told an audience of about 100 people Wednesday afternoon in the Woodward
Instructional Resource Centre
Jack recounted aninci dent she
said occurred after the standoff
had ended and the Mohawks involved were in the custody of the
Surete du Quebec police force.
As the male captives lay on a
floor, their feet having been kicked
out from under them while they
were leaning against a wall, Jack
said officers pointed guns at their
heads and pulled the triggers.
"Our men had no way of knowing that the guns were locked, and
you will never hear of incidents
like that in the media," she said.
"That's the story that needs to be
Jack was one of two Tlingit
first nations members to travel to
Oka in response to a request for
support, while Scow, a Kwaquitl,
was a member of an observer group
organized by the Canadian Federation of Students.
"In B.C., there have always
been demonstrations. The fact that
it arose sooner in Quebec was surprising," Jack said. "But if they
could walk on people there, then
they could just as easily walk on
people here."
As a third year law student,
Jack said that she had always
worked within the system, and that
her goal was to become a lawyer
and then move on into politics.
What she encountered at Oka,
however, had the impact of "running into a wall at 150 million
miles per hour. The system, both
politically and legally, would not
deal with the people," she said.
Scow, president of the UBC
based Native Indian Student
Union last year, was also behind
the barricades for most of the
standoff after originally planning
only a short visit.
"What we have seen inside is
something we could all put our
effort behind," Scow said. "Our fight
was based on laws older than
"We were backed up to the
wall and said we had to defend
ourselves, our future, to ensure
that our resources were there to
protect," she said.
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October 19, 1990 Bev Scow
Fund helps Native
women facing charges
A fund to cover the legal
costs of five B.C. women facing criminal charges resulting from their political actions
at the standoff at
Kanehsatake, near Oka,
Quebec, has been set up.
The Yiem Writers Society
of British Columbia hopes to
raise at least $150,000
through donations to the B.C.
Women's Kanehsatake/Oka
Trial Fund.
Two UBC students-
Jenny Jack and Beverly
Scow—are among those the
society hopes to help through
the fund. Jack and her niece
Lucille have raised their initial retainer of $10,000 each
for legal council.
All five face charges of in
citing a riot and obstructing a
police officer. Their trials are
expected to start November 15.
During a speaking engagement on Wednesday,
Jack, a third year law student,
said she plans to return to her
studies and believes that being found guilty would not affect her chances of becoming a
As far as criminal records
are concerned, Jack said the
Law Society of BC looks at
"trust kinds of issues" when
they consider who will be accepted to the bar.
"If they don't accept me,
they will make a political martyr out of me, and I don't think
they would want to do that,"
she said.
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we cannot sleep" (New Model Army)
Come join the Ubyssey
October 19,1990
THE UBYSSEY/5 19 15-1990
William Brock holds one of fifteen prestigious W.F. Vilas
Research Professorships at the University of Wisconsin,
Madison. Internationally recognized, his research provides
basic microeconomic foundations for the modern analysis
of business cycles and financial markets. In recent years he
has developed statistical methods to test for hidden
patterns of predictability in economic and financial data
that appear random and unpredictable to standard
techniques. Professor Brock has presented numerous
lectures worldwide which are known for making difficult
ideas easily understood.
Wednesday, October 24th   In Brock 351, at 4:00 PM
Thursay, October 25th        In Buchanan A-100, at 12:30 PM
Thursday, October 25th      In Hennings 201, at 4:00 PM
Is Economic Turbulence Like Nature's Turbulence?
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Wildlife electrifies
by Patricia Gabin
DON'T let the title of
Richard Ford's new book
fool you—Wildlife hasn't got anything to do with deer, moose or
bunny rabbits. But even animal
lovers won't be disappointed; there
are lots of connections with nature
here—at least on the human level.
by Richard Ford
Little Brown Canada Ltd.
Ford establishes Wildlife as a
book about people when his character, Joe, introduces his family on
the first page.
"In the fall of 1960, when I was
sixteen and my father was for a
time not working, my mother met a
man named Warren Miller and fell
in love with him," says Joe. The
statement hits hard and sets up the
tension that carries the reader
through a description of Joe's life
with his parents and the small town
they've moved to in Montana.
For the next 30 pages you're
hooked just by that one line, waiting for 'the big fling' to happen.
Then, just when you're beginning
to think this is going to be another
"boy grows up story,' Ford electrifies the page (and the reader) once
Ford reintroduces the theme of
'making decisions' when young Joe
meets his mother's lover face to
"Sometimes you have to do the
wrong thing just to know you're
alive," Warren Miller tells Joe.
Powerful lines like these, set
against acommonplace background
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and intertwined with slices of stiff
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Ford's style as quietly compelling.
At first glance, it would be
easy to criticize Ford's use of dialogue, which has a detached quality throughout the novel and almost makes getting inside a
character's head difficult—but thi s
sparse, restrained style is refreshingly free of emotional soliloquies
and sentimentality. The
nonjudgemental attitude of Ford's
characters allows readers to draw
their own conclusions about the
story and in that way makes Wildlife a much more personal read.
Wildlife has an interesting
mixture of symbolism and realism
especially when it comes to the
fiery images woven through the
book. From the forest fire Joe's
father leaves home to battle, to the
fire his mother has to battle within
herself, to the fire Joe watches his
father set—someone or something
is always blazing.
Ironically, Joe, the person who
should be most inflamed by the
changes in his parents' relationship and their family life, is the
only one who maintains his cool.
With a string of equally impressive novels precedingit, Wildlife is reminiscent of'Ford's collection of stories Rock Springs and
reads with the same smoothness
and ease as its shorter companions.
Ford is sure to gain even more
devoted readers (even without
bunnies) following his Writer's
Festival/Prism International
sponsored reading. He will be
speaking at the Frederic Wood
Theatre on October 25th at 12:30
Streetcar a classic
by Leah Postman
THE Vancouver Playhouse
production of A Streetcar
Named Desire is a classic
production of a classic play.
A Streetcar Named Desire
The Vancouver Playhouse
until November 3
The stagi ng and performances
combine to evoke an experience of
truly original theatre. The play,
under direction by Larry Lillo, is
as fresh and compelling as it must
have been when originally produced.
So much of Tennessee
William's play depends on the
character of Blanche DuBois. It is
her story, a poetic rendering ofthe
journey of the human heart from
desire to destruction. Camille
Mitchell as Blanche gives a very
fine performance, modulated yet
on edge.
Her Blanche is like the gauzy
curtains that divide the set: she
tries hard to wrap herself in romantic illusion in order to prevent
onslaught of brutal realities, but
her defenses are paper thin and no
real barrier to madness.
Mitchell fully controls
Blanche, revealing the layers of
fragility and hardness that encase
her blindness to and manipulation
of truth. Mitchell's Blanche is
achingly real.
The other important character in this play is, of course, Stanley
Kowalski. Played by Kim Coates
(who also played the role on
Broadway in 1988), Stanley stands
equal as Blanche's foil in terms of
his open sexuality, his vulgarity
and, ultimately, his brutality.
Coates is compelling to watch
and captures exactly Stanley's
underlying volatility. Obviously
very comfortable in the role, Coates
at times seems to verge on carica
ture (i.e. his voice) but is always
controlled enough to keep the
character powerfully real.
The only thing that doesn't
seem to work in this production is
the sexual tension'between Stanley
and Blanche, an element necessary
for the climax in the third act.
However, it seemed more of a
problem in direction than with the
actors. The blocking prevents
Stanley and Blanche from close
contact (until their last explosive
scene) andtheir dialogue with each
other comes across as needling,
whiney and lacking any sexual
Blanche says that when she
first saw Stanley she knew he
would be her executioner but the
tension between them is missing
and her "execution" comes off as
somewhat contrived.
A notable performance came
from Denyse Wilson in the role of
Stella. Christine Willes as Eunice
Hubbeil and Mark Acheson as
Steve Hubbeil bring comic diversion and colour to the play with
their portrayal ofthe loudbut ever-
loving couple upstairs.
The various elements of the
production fit together in a seamless whole. Especially notable is
the set design by E.Don Zacharias
and the sound design and original
music by Tom Keenlyside. Both
create the perfect atmosphere for
the play and subtly support and
expand on the images and themes
within the play.
Nice touches in the set design
are the curtains, which ostensibly
are used as room dividers or to
suggest walls. They allude to the
substance of romantic illusion,
seeming to hold reality at bay but
coming to nothing when ripped
aside or exposed to strong light.
The play runs a long three and
a half hours, but there is always
time enough and more for this
timeless piece.
October 19,1990 THE ARTS
Medusa rocks twilight zone
The Mr.T Experience shares itself with the masses.
Nardwuar gets
by Warren Whyte
ARDWUAR has me
So reads the sticker worn by all
the people who helped CiTR's own
Nardwuar the Human Serviette
present "ORGAN IZED" last Friday
night at UBC's SUB Ballroom.
Nardwuar the Human Serviette
SUB Ballroom
October 12
"Nardwuar has me smiling."
So would have read the hypothetical sticker worn by the exactly
523 all-agers who came to see the
latest edition of "Nardwuar presents...": a Seattle-based six-band
Or, as Nardwuar would say, "It
was an unbelievable wild, woolly
wig-out." Whatever.
What it was, was a chance for
people of all ages to enjoy bands
they would not have been able to
see without Nardwuar's efforts.
The Posies, Fastbacks, Mr. T
Experience, Hammerbox and Gas
Huffer all came up from Washington specifically for this event.
And of course let us not forget
Nardwuar's own traditional opening band, the Evaporators.
They set the tone for the
evening nicely as they bounced,
belched, squealed and squelched to
the trickle of fans slowly filling up
the ballroom.
Hammerbox's female singer's
powerful vocals over heavy and
driving guitars drew more people
from the hallways to the ballroom
and led one person to describe them
as "Anthrax with the lead singer of
10,000 Maniacs."
Typical ofthe evening's music
genre, Gas Huffer entertained with
their fast and grungy kind of pop,
but failed to leave a lasting impression.
The night still early, the real
fun began once Mr. T Experience
took the stage. Three albums already under their belts, their experience showed as they cranked out
fast, tight songs with silly themes.
Cows are big with MTX. They
play songs called Skatin' Cows,
Surfin' Cows and No Milk Today—
the cows out skating and surfing,
I suppose.
The classic MTX song Danny
Partridge is about the cocaine bust
of Danny Bonaduce, the red-
haired, freckled, teenage actor who
played little Danny on the television show the Partridge Family.
Like MTX, the Fastbacks were
also very popular with the young
crowd, probably the most popular
ofthe evening.
The Fastbacks were also the
most energetic ofthe night, largely
do to a crazed guitarist named
Kurt Bloch. Periodical fits of energy forced him off the imaginary
trampoline behind his microphone
to either run and jump across the
stage or right off it altogether and
into the crowd.
Strong vocals by a Joan Jett
lookalike added to the energy and
gave the overall sound meat, albeit torn and shredded in the true
spirit of grunge music.
After the Fastbacks' frenzied
climax, the headline band, the
Posies, were actually a let down.
They were slower, less aggressive,
and as a result ofthe more exciting opening bands, they came
across as somewhat boring. In fact,
many people left.
But they left happy and smiling. The gig was a success.
Although Nardwuar lost
money Friday—he usually does
on his productions—he plugs on,
always busy arranging another
show. And why?
"I waste my money to see concert goers with smiles on their
faces. Quite a few had smiles this
night. Not too many told me to
fuck off," he said.
Itis with this beautiful sentiment in his heart that Nardwuar
the Human Serviette sets about in
preparation for his next promotion on November 10 at the SUB
Ballroom. The show will feature
Mud Honey, Beat Happening, the
Smugglers, the Evaporators and
From Beyond.
by Caroline Longford
IT'S around ten-ish on a
Thursday night. I amble
into a smokey, dimly lit bar—as
they usually are in Gastown or anywhere else for that matter.
Medusa's Raft
The Twilight Zone
October 4
This particular one is the Twilight Zone—really, that's what it is.
Once i nside I am accosted by a terse
alternative looking woman at the
"Cover is three dollars; there's a
band," she says, tapping a poster
taped on the counter in front of her.
A band? How can she be so bland,
so impersonal when here tonight
plays the one, the only, Medusa's
Raft? It's the name of a painting,
okay?! Anyway back to the cashier,
I tell her casually I'm on the guest
list—for once this is actually true.
I've come with Jack who has
recently moved here from
Amsterdam. He is a transient I
picked up along the way in a
shared cab ride just like in those
underarm de-rodentcommercials
on T.V.
The place is packed with
weirdos and deadbeats, half of
whom have never even heard of
this recently migrated band, their
sole purpose to shoot some pool
and grab a couple of brew. Then
the band comes on.
Jack asks what kind of a band
they are and since I know you're
all dying to know too, 111 try to
clarify. They are not exactly in a
clean cut classification (bet you've
never heard that one before). It's
sort of like heavy ska, and they do
a lot of ska covers, Specials,
Lambretta's etc., but, especially
in their original pieces, it overflows onto something more... I
don't know, GO FIND OUT FOR
YOURSELF. It's good. What do
want from me anyway, a review or
It doesn't take long for the crowd
to take notice and congregate a':
the front. Unfortunately the set up
is poor. There is no space for
dancing or seating in front of the
band. People are scattered on the
stairs leading down to the stage for
optimum viewing and growing
restless. By now I've parted company with Jack, but cross his path
occasionally and see he is enjoying
Someone sittinginfrontofme
between sets turns enthusiastically and says, "Have you heard,
this band?!" Yet another B.C. fan
is born, and not the only one that
night by the look of it. Will you be
next? Catch them now while they're
still cheap.
They'll be playing at 86 Street,
October 25. See you there!
By the way, ifyou read this, I
recovered quite nicely thank you
very much.
Amigo's guitar sings the blues
by Leah Postman
A MIGO'S Blue Guitar,
By Canadian playwright Joan MacLeod, is a
play with good intentions.
But the best of intentions
do not necessarily make for
the best drama.
The pi ay is about a
Canadian family living in
the Gulf Islands who
sponsor a refugee from El
Amigo's Blue Guitar
The Arts Club Theatre
Until November 3rd
The arrival of Elias
serves to bring into relief
the naive liberal assumptions of Western culture (as
represented by the family
members) against the
almost incomprehensible
situation in Central
However, the family's
struggle to adjust their
liberal stance as they are
challenged by Elias' presence tends to overshadow
the Simple power of Elias'
story. The play oversimplifies the issues and becomes
moralistic in its treatment
ofthe relationships and
attitudes held by the
The characters are not
fully realized; they seem to
be more representative of
ideas than of actual people.
Conflict arises without
substantial reason and the
action and dialogue veer off
into melodrama and emotional reaction.
The cast is strong and
works hard given the limits
ofthe play. Joy Coghill as
the grandmother and
Guillermo Verdecchia as
Elias are interesting and
satisfying to watch. Their
roles and relationship have
a depth that is lacking in
and among the other
The cast also includes
Stephen E. Miller, Tamsin
Kelsey and Tim Battle.
MacLeod is obviously a
gifted writer. But this
modern-day morality play
imposes, rather than
evokes, understanding.
Passion, politics and drum solos
by Stefania Shortt
JOHNNY CleggandSavuka
played a wild, high energy
set that included dance rhythms,
tribal beats and mysterious, vigorous Zulu dance moves.
Johnny Cleggand Savuka
Commodore Ballroom
October 11
As the anticipation of
Clegg's eclectic fans grew,
The Samples, a reggae-
rock band from Colorado
with a Sting-like vocalist,  opened  the  show
with their light, but often politically directed
music. They  sang for
causes such as the plight
of Native People and the
U.S. mid-west farmers
who have been affectedby
drought. Their stage show
was low key, but their music was well received.
When Clegg and Savuka
burst onto the stage with Bombs
Away, from their latest album,
the devotees responded with en
Though they danced from the
start, Clegg and Savuka hit their
stride with their third song, Don't
Walk Away. The traditional Zulu
choreography culminated mid-con
cert during an acapella song in
Zulu. Clegg and the conga player
performed a ritualistic
duet ,,_ i    n
which they
brandished wooden sticks and
synchronized body lurching leg
kicks, turn s and leaps. They were
accompanied by the exuberant
band, its pulsating beat and a high
pitched howl from the dynamic fe
male back-up singer.
The set ended with an extended version of I Call Your Name,
and the audience was virtually attacked by percussion. Clegg and
the rest ofthe band left the stage to
the two drummers who took us for
a turbulent,  ecstatic ride  on
rhythm. There were few in the
crowd who coul d resi st the deep
compelling beat ofthe passionate drum solo.
Clegg, as expected, fit his
political and social optimism
and activism into the lively
evening. He dedicated Warsaw 1941:1 Never Betray the
Revolution, to the children
who took part in  the resistance in Poland,
Asimbonanga, and to Nelson
Mandela and other South African activists. He devoted One
Human, One Vote to what ho
referred to as the world's longest
struggle for self-determination:
the  fight  against  apartheid  in
South Afri.a.
Johnny Cleggand Savuka left
us after two encores. Their ideas,
though, linger as we remember
Clegg's assertion that, though in
the past we have emphasized the
differences between peoples, "In
the '90s it is time to stress the
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Poor John ...
In respon se to John Li pscomb's
letter on September 19th, I would
like to tell him, and all U.B.C.
students, ofthe stressful day I recently had.
On Monday I woke up late
after studying long the night before. To my horror my toothpaste
fell off the toothbrush and I had to
spend a good five minutes retrieving it from the sink drain-hole.
Then while dressing, I discovered
that my socks had shrunk after I
washed them, making me feel uncomfortable all day.
Driving to catch the bus at the
West Vancouver Park-and-Ride, a
truck driver cut me off at a four
way stop. I tried explaining to him
that it was my right of way but he
responded by insulting me as well
as making rude gestures; I have
not been treated in such a manner
since grade three when a girl
named Brenda stuck out her
tongue at me. Ah Brenda! Ah humanity!
When I got home from a
strenuous day of studying and
taking notes I noticed that my new
school bag had scuff marks and
foot prints on it. I kept wondering
whether it was the engineers or
the Gays and Lesbians of U.B.C.
who were responsible for this grave
crime against my property.
Come on John, spare us from
such ri vetingaccounts of your daily
life as an AMS board member.
Each one of us on campus has a
story to tell about our ups and
downs, but we seem to keep them
to ourselves because we can handle
them and also because they are
boring for other people to listen to.
To reword a well known cliche, if
the pressure of your job is too much
for you, then step down as A.M.S.
Director of Finance.
My advice to you is that you
should never contemplate writing
an autobiography. I am well aware
of your strong point of view of
protectingtheenvironment, which
I also support; thus, I think we will
both agree that me must spare
mighty trees from being converted
into wasted paper.
I do congratulate you though,
for not publishing your emotional
frustrations in the daily papers of
our city.
David Chivo
Arts 4
Science is cool
Dear Mr. Graham Coleman:
With regards to your "Freestyle"
column of Oct. 2 in this paper:
I must wonder if you really
have any concept of what science is
or ifyou simply use "science" as a
general label for anything that you
find rigid and unyielding. Science
involves the creative synthesis of
partially related or even seemingly
unrelated facts into a cohesive and
consistent model of our world.
Often an intuitive leap of great
significance is made by scientists
with talent and experience in their
field. Yet, in the end all results
must be reproducible and all conclusions must stem logically and
selfconsistently from these results
regardless of the initial bias or
expectations of the researcher.
Science is not simply the
stacking of such new facts upon
old. It is dynamic. As evidence
builds which contradicts old ideas,
they must eventually yield to new
paradigms (conceptual models).
Pure science research strives for
no obvious economic or practical
goal, yet this immersion in this
abstract or non-applicable research
has granted us all the important
discoveries of the past. Much of
this pure science research is funded
by foundations and government
grants which do not demand any
concrete economic gain as a result
(much like studies in the humanities).
I was not surprised by your
common mis-nomination of science
and applied science (ie. technology,
engineering, etc.). I was perturbed
that you see science students and
scientists as thinking of the humanities as valueless. But, I was
aghast that you associate the display put on in that parade by a
group of red jacketed students with
the behaviour or thinking of either
anybody professionally involved
with science or technology or any
mentally competent adult member
of our society.
I don't think the engineering
students attacked the Artsmobile
because any one of them was contemptuous ofthe passengers' outlook on life. I think they did it
because they were acting as an
intoxicated mob (granted that the
engineering students seem particularly susceptible to being
drawn into mob action). Surely,
Mr. Coleman, you don't presume
that a mob represents thinking in
either a practical or humanistic
Ari Giligson
Get it together,
Open Letter to Kurt, Johanna,
John, Jason
I'm fed up. I'm really tired of
all the back-stabbing, in-fighting,
and total lack of unity on your
parts. The volleying of acid comments in The Ubyssey is not only
childish and immature, it is annoying to those of us who participated in the democratic process
which subsequently put you into
office. I specifically voted in the
1990 elections in order to eliminate
the corrupt, disunified element of
the previous government.
After the last five months of
public scraps and name-calling, I
have to tell you that I'm disappointed, but I'm not surprised. The
last year-and-a-half has proven to
me that most ofthe people getting
involved in student government
are doing so for their own gains
rather than to better the lives and
circumstances of their fellow students.
Do you four realize that you
are undermining the power ofthe
students? John, you say we should
abolish the AMS Students' Council because it doesn't have any real
power anyway, and it is not representing "a sufficient amount of
people on campus". Hmmmmm....1
wonder why?
Get it together, kids. No one
would be launching impeachment
campaigns if you were actually
doingyourjobs. To quote Johanna,
enough said—in other words, don't
air your dirty laundry until you've
cleaned up your acts.
Marya McVicar
Arts 3
Is your brain a pile
of radioactive
This is where YOU
Come make fun of
normal people,
Join the Ubyssey!
Drop by
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October 19,1990 LETTERS/OPINION
Parking is pooey
To Parking and Security Services;
To whom it may concern:
As an occasional user of your
parkades on campus, I am concerned about the way the system
is run as well as the pricing practice of these lots.
I am aware that the revenue
generated by campus parking
pays for the many services that
the university has; amongst
them, the costs of present and
future parking lots. However, I
wonder why the parkades do not
1) monthly and yearly passes
for students
2) a half-hourly rate rather
than only the hourly rate
The introduction of monthly and
yearly passes is, in my opinion, a
logical extension of existing
parking services. There are, I
am sure, students who are willing to pay a relatively high premium for the convient locations
of the parkades while saving
money in the long-term as compared to paying on a daily basis.
The idea of such passes is
used in parking lots throughout
Vancouver, enabling their users
to enjoy the benefits of covered
parking. One can even look at
the transit system as a model; it
too operates on a pay-as-you-use
system as well as selling passes
to those who think that they can
make use of them.
I realize that there are certain considerations which work
against my idea, primarily the
high demand versus the limited
.amount of parking space. Nonetheless, I believe that the people
most likely to buy such a passes
would be current users of the
parkade while B-Lot users would
continue using that parking
Another idea is to have a
pass which bills a user at a flat
rate (e.g. $4.00/day) each time
he/she uses the parkade.   Then
at the end of the month the
parkade user is billed, in this
manner, sparing him/her from
the inconvenience of paying right
away as well as accommodating
the occasional user. The idea is
based on the credit card system
which is universally accepted and
quite effective. Late payers could
also be charged interest. A
company like General Electric,
which operates the credit accounts of some major department
stores (e.g. Woodwards) would, I
believe, be only too glad to help.
The above are long-term ideas
that are worth consideration for
the future parking needs of UBC
The proposed closure of one of
the B-Lots makes the need for
new and imaginative solutions
all the more important.
My second concern is ofa more
UBC students
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immediate nature. Theparkades
charge its users on an hourly
basis. The introduction ofa half-
hourly rate would be worthwhile
for the following reasons.
1) Charging a half-hourly
rate is common practice at most
Vancouver parkades. Thus, its
implementation at UBC
parkades would only follow the
precedent set by other lots.
2) The half-hour rate makes
sense. Some classes at UBC are
only one and one-half hours long,
so this rate: scheme would fit perfectly those students who only
come for one class.
3) The half-hour rate is morally necessary. Students already
burdened by the high costs of
education, rent, gas etc. do not
like being 'ripped off at the
parkades. I have had to pay
$2.00 for a one hour and ten
minute stay at the SUB parkade.
Whereas you make 1.67 cents
per minute for an hour stay,
parking for one and one-half
hours, and paying $2.00, means
you are making 2.22 cents a
minute. These numbers may
seem trivial, but they prove that
users may be paying too much at
the UBC parkades.
4) There is a discrepancy between the way you charge at the
meters compared to the parkades.
Whereas the meters allow one to
pay for the time one uses the spot,
the parkades charge one full
amount for a potential fraction of
the time one is parked there.
5) A half-hourly rate may
very well increase parkade
userage, thereby increasing revenue and reducing illegal parkers
on campus.
As you can see, I am both
interested and concerned with
parking issues at UBC Over the
four years that I have attended
the university so far I have seen
a great increase in usage of the
parking facilities and I wonder
how the situation will be in the
I hope that my letter will aid
you in making the important decisions regarding this sensitive
Yours Truly
David Chivo
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THE UBYSSEY/9 Who do you
A lack of courage struck a number of council members at last Wednesday's Student's Council meeting when
they failed to take a stand on the issue of granting the
Native Students Union a non-voting seat.
Just prior to a roll call vote (which registers each
voter's position byname) three members stormed out of
council chambers. Moreover, during the vote, many council members preferred to abstain rather than being on the
record as a yes or a no.
By ignoring the importance ofa First Nations' voice
on council as an alienated group, or the precedent it
involves for increased, democratic representation for
minority groups on council, these councillors disregarded
one ofthe most important tenets of democracy: the right
to information.
If the public is left ignorant of issues and of where
their representatives stand on them, how can they truly
participate? How can the voter decide whether or not to
re-elect a representative if they are denied such basic
information as where the representative stands on an
How can we ask students to get involved when their
representatives are so willing to hide?
As public figures representing a group of constituents, councillors must expect their actions to be the
subject of public record. Council is not the forum for
private voting.
Engineering rep Daren Sanders, who left the meeting, explained he could not vote because, as a representative of his constituents, he did not feel confident he
could indicate what they believed, thus absolving himself
of blame. But this is exactly what the abstention vote is
To abstain is a valid way to vote. But an abstention
should not be used to shield the councillor from the duty
to make unpopular, or potentially unpopular decisions.
If councillors do not support a motion, they should
vote against it. An abstention should only be used when
the councilor truly cannot make a decision.
The role ofa councillor is to understand constituent
opinions, and make intelligent, informed, and considerate decisions on motions presented in council. If they
neglect this responsibility, what is the point of having
them in office?
Many council members should question why they
walked out or abstained. Why not allow votes to be
recorded? Why hide from constituents?
Regardless of how the individual councillors came to
their decisions, those who walked out and those who
abstained because they were not prepared to accept
responsibility for their vote, have done a disservice to
students and have abdicated their duties on a very
important issue.
the Ubyssey
October 19, 1990
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The classic American pilgrimage: Vegas, Hawaii, Disneyland. Matthew Johnson was the hero, because he demanded it. In classic
"Rambo* style He hijacked a plane helped by Yukie Kurahashi,
who'd never had such fun. Graham Coleman was confused. He
wasn't around last year when Nadene Rehnby took everyone to
Europe. Michael Booth was there: he remembered all the coke Paul
Dayson drank in Amsterdam. Michael Coury brought taco chips for
the plane ride, and-Lydia Chen went on THE quest for the perfect
beer. Raul Peschiera didn't care—he was trying hard to be the
reporter-type and drank scotch. Yggy King was lots of fun: he and
Ernie Stelzer made shadow puppets against the screen on the plane
when Rebecca Bishop couldn't get the projector working. Martin
Chester pouted. He'd really looking foward to seeing the latest Rob
Lowe flick. Mark Nielsen woofed his cookies, grossing out Liz
Stevenson, who had also never been on a Ubyssey journey. Don Mah
was the first on the tarmac when the plane touched down in Las
Vegas. John Manis was next, quarters weighed down wilhquarters,
remnants of the CiTR beer runs of production night fame. John
Sullivan gathered up the collective after their five hours stay. "We
have to get on the with trip, it's already 2 a.m." shouted Sophia
Harris. Sam Green, a native of the sun, couldn't wait to get to
Hawaii. "Ha!" said Willem Maas, whistling to look indifferent. He
had been there before. Patricia Gabin flipped off Maas, sneering,
and headed for the beach, surfboard under one arm, Brenda Wong
under the other. Stefania Shortt and Warren Whyte went on a major
drinking binge, and within an hour, the whole staff had been
arrested and deported. That was okay with Caroline Longford, she
couldn't wait for Disneyland. "Mickey's for kids!" shouted Leah
Postman, but Hao Li didn't care, he and Lyanne Evans werealready
running down mainstreet in their mickey mouse caps with cotton
candied glaces. Bill the Radio God smiled at the happy campers,
smiled because trips in the little box on page eleven can be so much
Rebecca Bishop   •   Michael Booth   •   Martin Chester  •   Paul Dayson
Kurt fall-out #2
Rather than fill space
an induce sleep with a discussion of whether or not
Kurt Preinsperg's "31 Hints
to Get You Off to a Better
Start with the Woman of
Your Choice" is sexist, let us
consider the howling and the
'demands' for resignation or
impeachment that have followed in the wake of the
article's appearance in The
Kurt was identified by
The Province columnist who
ran his article as UBC AMS
President. Journalists
tending to report the facts
(The Ubyssey is an
achnowledged exception),
the column did not suggest
either that Kurt's advice was
offered in his official capacity as AMS President or that
the "31 Hints to Get You
Off..." represented the official datingandmatingpolicy
ofthe AMS. When a student
politician makes statements
or acts in amanner that some
students find objectionable,
is it appropriate to persecute that student and demand their resignation?
When Vanessa Geary
(in her official capacity as
AMS Co-Ordinator of External Affairs) made comments, at the memorial service for the victims of the
Montreal massacre, which
many students construed as
anti-male and which were
anti-Engineer, did anyone
demand or even suggest she
leave office as an "embarrassment?"
When Jenny Jack,
President of the Law Students' Association, went to
Oka, Quebec, to join the
Mohawks as they face down
the Canadian Army, did the
Law students of UBC disown
her as an "embarrassment"?
No bloody way! And this in
spite ofthe fact that a number of these students are
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quite opposed to her actions.
"But those instances are
different!", you exclaim. I
must disagree. All three
cases involve students ex-
poundingtheir controversial
personal beliefs and being
identified by the media as
holding a student political
As to whether Kurt represents the students of UBC,
this paper quite admirably
made his case for him by
r epubli shi ng a retrospective
of Herr Doctor's ramblings.
Kurt was electedby students
who had ample opportunity
to gain a well-informed idea
of whotheirleader-to-be was.
He has been writing in his
distinctive style (with all its
assumptions and biases or
not) for years; it is an integral
part of his public persona
and it was that public persona that the students of this
campus elected.
Besides, if Kurt is such
a sexist author, how did our
politically correct and ever-
vigilant Ubyssey ever come
to publish his works.
Just askin'
Ms. Anda Phelps
They're sorry
First of all, all of the
people involved would like
to thank The Ubyssey for
being one of the few media
representatives to report the
story in an unbiased and
objective manner. We have
personally apologized to all
the women involved. As the
story escalated, we also issued an apology on the national news wire, and it has
already been printed in the
Vancouver Sun, and filmed
on CBC news. Attempts are
beingmade within thehouse
to change attitudes and improve awareness. House
members have been encouraged to attend sexual assault
and harassment meetings,
with great success. There is
also a feeling that not only
our house, but all houses and
residents, male and female,
should look into their sexual
attitudes as well.
The atmosphere in the
house at present is very
emotionally unstable. National media representatives
harassing both involved and
non-involved students for
interviews, coupled with
mid-terms, has greatly increased the stress levels of
the residents. Already.more
than one per son has receive d
psychiatric counselling, and
some students have made
the decision to drop out of
school. The extensive external media coverage has
caused many problems, but
hopefully, decreasing national attention will prevent
further disturbances or rash
Once again, all of the
men involved extend a sincere apology to all of the
women who were offended.
James S. Garrett,
Concerned Cariboo
Clean up after
You are supposed to.
The sign on the table says
so. After 1 o'clock, when I
usually go there to avoid the
crowd, there is hardly any
table which does not have
some trash left on it. It has
become worse in the last two
years or so. No wonder our
environment is deteriorating rapidly if so many of us
cannot keep even our eating
quarters from turning into a
pig sty. Yes, we do have a
chronic space problem on
campus, but that does not
give you an excuse to be inconsiderate to others. It is
simply a matter of good
M. Williams
Biotechnology Lab
Kurt, don't
read this
I have just finished
reading Psychology Professor James Steiger's analysis of Kurt Preinsperg, and
it concerns me deeply.
I count myself among
the people who found Mr.
Preinsperg's "31 Hints" to
be sexist and dangerous. I
feel that Professor Steiger's
analysis of Mr. Preinsperg
was the most accurate so
far, and the explanation of
the full impact ofthe issues
connected with Mr.
Preinsperg's letters
definitely shows why the
"31 Hints" column is not a
trivial issue. However, I
feel that we are forgetting
something very important
during this controversy: we
are dealing with a human
Professor Steiger,
where is your compassion
for this man? I agree with
your analysis that Mr.
Preinsperg is insecure and
his letters are attempts at
self-validation. Ifthatisso,
then as a professor of psychology, why aren't you
trying to get counselling and
help for an emotionally
troubled person? Instead
you are resorting to publicly abusing and insulting
Mr. Preinsperg. Your
analysis may be accurate,
but the tone of your letter
was extremely malicious. Is
your intent to help him, or
to cause him further suffering?
Professor Steiger, I feel
that your taunting and
mocking of Mr. Preinsperg
was cruel and unnecessary,
and will not help free Mr.
Preinsperg from the feelings
of insecurity that (as you
have suggested) causes his
sexist and distorted views.
Matthew Udziela
Arts 2
October 19,1990 LETTE&S/OPIN.ON
Chretien, the (false) Little Guy From Shediac
The present divisions between
francophones andanglophones in
Canada are partially due to a
mutual lack of understanding.
With the aim of improving this
situation, John Sulliuan will,
from time to time, translate editorials of national interest from
francophone newspapers for The
Ubyssey. Sullivan is a third year
history major interested in French-
Canadian affairs.
October 2, 1990
written by Gilles Lesage
translated by John Sullivan
When he was elected head
of the Liberal Party last June
Jean Chretien said he was in no
hurry to get a seat in the House
of Commons. First of all, he said,
he wanted to devote several
months to the unity and reorganization ofa party crippled with
debts. Three months later, the
old "Little Guy From
Shawinigan" is trying to be, at
least for a time, the" Little Guy
From Shediac" New
But why not pick a riding in
his own home province?
In answer to this, Mr
Chretien indicates thathe didn't
want to displace any ofthe few
Quebec Liberals, whereas his
party holds two-thirds of the
seats in the Maritimes. And he
has a precedent: Brian Mulroney
himself used a seat in Nova
Scotia as a spring-board to Parliament after his election as chief
of the Tories in 1983. This is a
lame comparison. Mr. Mulroney
could hardly have asked the only
Tory MP in Quebec, Roch
LaSalle, to give up his riding of
Joliette. Mr. Chretien could
have, on the other hand, tried to
get elected in one of the nine
Liberal ridings in Quebec.
The Liberal Leader has chosen the security ofa riding that
has been red from one wall to the
other for more than fifty years.
He is takingno risks on this one.
He  explains that he chose
Beausejour for the good of the
riding, and that he knows offhand their many problems (all
caused by the Tories of course)...
Although it sounds solid,
Chretien's reasoning is based on
cynicism. The truth is that since
his success, by proxy, in defeating Meech Lake, Mr. Chretien
has seen his popularity plummet in Quebec. So much so that
the latest Angus Reid/Le Soleil
poll showed that three out of
every four Quebecers are unhappy with his leadership.
...Grumbling, and knowing
full well they are being used, the
voters of Beausejour will give
their confidence to this (false)
"Little Guy From Shediac".
Because, in spite of the
strategy used, Mr Chretien must
return to the Commons with the
least delay. That is where the
Leader of the Opposition belongs. On the floor of the House
he will have the daily opportunity to rebuildhis credibility and
his image.
If it isn't too late.
to offend
I want to complain about the
obscenities being committed by the
student body of this university.
Since I began attending this institution I have seen a geometric
increase in the number of obscenities committed by the student
body every year. A university
should not be a place where the
attitudes ofthe outside world don't
This university has become a
place where the attitudes of the
outside world have begun to apply
more and more. UBC has become a
place where an individual has to
worry about civil action for uttering a foul word or telling a foul
joke, and because of this, it is being
transformed into a faceless, spiritless degree factory. This is obscene!
It is not the people that utter
a word that may offend the sensibilities of some individual on this
campus that should be cast out,
nor should those that are offended
and voice their opinion. It is those
who are offended and who, through
the powers of the administration
or the courts, try to force their
Victorian sensibilities on others
who should be banished from our
institution; for they are truly obscene.
Greg Johnston
Forest Harvesting 4
Way to go,
I appreciate your attempt at
informing the masses about alternative forms of communication
between the two genders. It is too
bad that your audience is not ready
for you yet, because I believe there
is still room for acceptance,
openmindedness and warmth between strangers in this world. In a
university setting idealism runs
rampant, but unfortunately and
obviously, so does cold, stuffy conservatism. I sincerely believe
Kurt'sability to be president of our
AMS is not hampered, but rather
enhanced, by his desire to be a
magnanimous communicator, a
self-expressed leader and abuilder
of bridges, not barriers. Affection,
trust and intimacy are so very sadly
lacking in our society. I wonder if
tomorrow's chil dren will ever know
that "love" is essential to the art of
beingfully human?! Although Kurt
may be a little overzealous in his
desire to show that relationships
are important and should be cultivated, he definitely does not set
out to belittle females' roles in any
ofthe interactions he suggests. For
all you people who think Kurt is
sexist and incapable of being our
AMS President because of his
published views on human relationship, I wonder ifyou are one of
the many in our society who judge
rather than accept, criticize rather
than reach out and expect rather
than give!?
Nicole Kohnert
Bio-Resource Engineering 4
Would anyone
bail out
At around 11:10 am this past
Tuesday, two policemen entered
the McMillan building, walked into
the MECH 370 class and handcuffed and arrested Dr. "Fast"
Eddie Hauptmann. The crime?
Being the president ofthe Association of Professional Engineers and
Geoscientists of British Columbia,
and having potential fund-raising
ability for the Canadian Cancer
Society. All over Vancouver,
prominent persons were arrested
and brought to a little "cell" in a
makeshift jail set up in front ofthe
Vancouver Art Gallery. The "Jail
'n Bail" program encourages people
to bail out these "criminals"; all
proceeds go to the Canadian Cancer Society. In one Applied Science
450 class alone, 4th year Engineers
donated over $250. At the Art
Gallery site, over $90,000 has been
raised so far. Fund-raising has
continued this week, and ends today (90 10 04). Donors can contact
the EUS at the Cheeze (228-3818)
or the Jail 'n Bail site (684-5690).
After today, call the Canadian
Cancer Society directly at 253-
Johan Thornton
EUS Publicity
No gays here,
I hope the quote from the
president of Gays and Lesbians of
UBC (as reported in The Ubyssey's
article on Professor Hulcoop's new
course, "Reading Subtext in English Literature: Overt Sexuality
and Covert Homosexuality"), is not
an accurate reflection of the
course's quality or content. If Anthony Berno's unqualified assertion that "even in the Bible we
have a precedent for a loving, gay
relationship between David and
Jonathan," is a good example of
the caliber of homosexual literary
analysis, then it hardly seems like
a field into which the English department should be entering.
David and Jonathan from a literary, historical, or religious perspective, would for a moment entertain the idea that the relationship between David and Jonathan
was anything but a deep intellectual-emotional friendship.
In ISamuel20:l,the very first
reference to the friendship between
David and Jonathan, it says,
"Jonathan became one in SPIRIT
with David, and he loved him as
himself (NIV—emphasis mine).
The words "one in spirit" are in
direct and vivid contrast with the
phrase first used to denote sexual
relations in the Bible: "For this
reason a man will leave his father
and mother and be united to his
wife, and they will become one
FLESH" (Genesis 2:24). Thus, in
order to claim that David and
Jonathan's relationship was homosexual, one must first divorce
word usage in I Samuel from that
in the rest of Hebrew literature.
Historically, had David been
involved in a homosexual relationship with Jonathan, he should
have earned a rebuke from God at
least as severe as the one God sent
to him for his adultery with
Bathsheba (see II Samuel 11-12).
After all, Jewish law is just as
clear on the moral status of homosexuality as it is on that of
adultery: "If a man lies with a man
as one lies with a woman, both of
them have done whatis detestable"
(Leviticus 20:13). As neither David
nor Jonathan were even rebuked,
much less punished, for their relationship, it seems pretty clear
that their friendship was indeed
on an intellectual-emotional, not
physical, level.
Finally, as we've already seen,
I Samuel 20:1 also tells us that
Jonathan loved David "ashimself",
exactly what Jesus told each and
everyone of us to do to our
neighbours. Must every Christian
who wants to follow His commands
engage in homosexual activity9
God forbid! Christ said, "do not
think that I have come to abolish
the Law or the Prophets; I have not
come to abolish them, but to fulfill
them" (Matthew 5:17).
Let's stop tryi ng to m ake work s
of literature say what we want
them to say and read them for
what they do say. And if Professor
Hulcoop's course on "Reading
Subtext" does the former rather
than the latter, the English department might as well scrap it
before it gets started.
Ed Hewlett
Arts 4
Sex equals
quality of living?
UBC's hedonistic AMS President, Kurt Preinsperg, is quoted in
Ubyssey's Sept. llth edition in the
following words: "Preaching celibacy underestimates and disparages the very real contribution
which sex can make to a good life."
I would like to question this
statement. Don't misunderstand
me, I'm not against sex. I believe it
is one of God's gifts to mankind,
but, like all his gifts, it has to be
used with care, love and in the
proper context of marriage. From
what I read in The Ubyssey the
contribution sex often makes to a
good life, especially in Orientation
Week, is not what the Maker had
in mind (and possibly not what
Kurt Preinsperg had in mind either). Nevertheless, the tone ofhis
articles seems to me to imply that
life would be very second rate if we
were to curb our natural desires by
practising celibacy and monogamy.
As always it depends on what
you mean by "a good life". I lived a
very hedonistic life-style for the
first 21 years of my life. I took the
hippie road to Kathmandu and
ended upon abeachinGoa, taking
acid and sleeping around, thinking how free I was. In actual fact I
was lonely, confused and insecure.
My so-called freedom lay in conforming to my hippie peer group
and trying to gain their acceptance
and approbation.
It was only when I became a
Christian three years later that I
began to experience the quality of
life that God really intends for his
children. Jesus Christ came to give
us "abundant life" or "life in all its
fulness". This doesn't lie in free
love, and unrestricted sexual activity or even in practising celibacy
or monogamy. It comes from
knowing him personally and having our daily lives transformed by
his presence and power.
I recommend "the Good Life"
wholeheartedly. Don't be misled
into second best. Gettoknow Christ
now while you are young and discover God's purpose for the rest of
your life. Go to a Christian group
and question them about their
faith. Start reading the New Testament and ask God to help you to
find him. He will change your life.
Vicky Boydell
Regent College
Fun and games
til someone
loses a car
Rivalry between Engineering
and Arts is an acknowledged (and
often enjoyed) fact. Pranks, jokes,
tricks, painting, even sculpture,
are all accepted and acceptable
means of "combat". But when injuries and destruction occur, the
spirit of fun in which these activi
ties supposedly take place abruptly
disappears. Unfortunately, this is
what happened last Thursday
during and after the Homecoming
Parade. Our car was effectively
destroyed and some participants
were injured. Hopefully this won't
happen again—hopefully well just
have fun.
Sigrid Thompson
AUS President
Have we forgotten
the Palestinians?
With all the attention centered
on the Persian gulf, the world
seems to turn a blind eye to the
plight of the Palestinians. Israel
has just massacred more than 20
and has wounded hundreds of unarmed Palestinians with impunity.
Does anybody care?
The United States claims that
the issue in the Gulf is about justice. What about justice for the
Palestinians? What about their
right of self determination; their
dreams and aspirations?
Does anybody care that the
Palestinians have been deprived
of their basic human rights for so
many decades? Where is the
United States when the issue is
justice for the Palestinians?
After all the hoopla ends in
the Persian gulf and Iraq withdraws or is forced to withdraw from
Kuwait, the voice of the crushed
Palestinians will be no more than
a faint moan.
Rafeh Hulays
Graduate Student,
Electrical Engineering
Money pits
are everywhere
Last week Chris Bendl wrote
to The Ubyssey claiming that "we
need a recreation facility more than
money pits like daycare." I want to
call attention to the needs of those
of us UBC students who do not fall
into the category that Bendl creates
with his insightful "needs analysis." As a parent I would not be
able to attend UBC without
daycare for my daughter. While a
new recreation facility could be
nice, I know I can do without it.
and from the fact that the student
body rejected a bid to fund such
facility it seems that I'm not alone
in coming to that conclusion. It is
obvious that I am not part of what
Chris Bendl calls "us," I fall into a
different portion of the student
body, those who have young children. And we need daycares so
much more than money pits like
Rec Fac!
Gudrun Helgadottir
Graduate Student,
Hey there!
If you've submitted a
letter two lifetimes ago and
it hasn't been printed yet,
this might be (read: is
probably) because your letter is really really long. You
might want to come in and
shorten it...or don't, if you
don't mind waiting a little
(read: a lot) longer...
While Fm at this, please,
this isn't a classified/
wantads space. Please send
all club announcements,
obituaries, and other
classifieds-type stuff to the
classifieds section, SUB
room 266, at 228-3977.
Thank you.
October 19,1990
Krutov ponders future, practices with T-Birds
When the Vancouver Canucks cut loose left winger
and former Soviet national team member Vladimir
Krutov at the end of training camp, many people
thought it was the last they would see of him.
by Michael Booth
Yet, there he was this week,
practicing with the UBC
Thunderbirds in an effort to keep
in shape while his troubles with
the National Hockey League club
are resolved.
"We have a relationship with
Vancouver where if a player is
hurt or is left behind and they
can't get ice for them at the Coliseum, they come and practice here
for a couple days," said UBC coach
Terry O'Malley.
O'Malley said the Canucks
approached him  earlier in the
Former Soviet national team member Vladimir Krutov        don mah photo
heads up ice during practice with the UBC Thunderbirds.
month about Krutov but he never
showed up. Last week a friend of
Krutov's, Ken Konkin, contacted
O'Malley and Krutov began practicing with the team Monday.
"UBC is the only place that I
was given ice time," said Krutov.
Konkin added, "the Canucks
would not let him on their ice so
he had to find his own ice time."
Krutov sai d he had been given
a "bad deal" by the Canucks and
said that his problems with the
team began last season.
"Towards the last half of the
year...I was the leading scorer
until January but after that, for
some reason,...watching," he said.
"I want to play in Vancouver but
they don't want me. As long as the
situation remains the same, I
practice here."
Krutov said he hopes to play
in Europe if he isn't picked up by
another NHL team. He has not
been approached by anyone in the
league but has not given up on the
game. When asked about his plans
after hockey, Krutov said "I
haven't given it much thought. I
want to play hockey."
At Wednesday's practice,
Krutov took part in all the drills,
including the punishments dealt
out by the coachi ng staff when his
line allowed a goal. O'Malley made
the players who were scored on to
do a shoulder roll—a modified
somersault that is impossible to
execute in hockey equipment with
any sense of grace.
When Krutov's line gave up a
goal, his UBC linemates hit the
ice rolling. Krutov watched them
briefly before attempting the ungainly maneuver himself, much
to the delight and applause ofthe
Vladimir Krutov
Thunderbird players.
UBC players welcome the opportunity to practice against one
ofthe world's best forwards.
"It's been an interesting week
of practice with him here," said
UBC defenceman Kevin Hoffman.
"You have to ignore the puck and
play the body with him. He just
mesmerizes you with his
Goaltender Ray Woodley was
impressed by Krutov's skill but
said Krutov is still governed by a
European approach to hockey.
"He's tricky but, I don't know
if its reputation or what, but Europeans seem to want to pass the
puck rather than shoot," said
Woodley. "He's usually thinking
pass first."
UBC captain Grant Delcourt,
who played with Krutov at the
Canucks' trainingcamp, saidthat
Krutov's problems are probably
with the mental approach to his
"It seemed (at camp) he never
had the intensity,'' said Delcourt.
"It's obvious he has the ability,
but for some reason he doesn't
have the desire.
"In the NHL everyone's fighting for jobs and you can't get by on
your reputation. It'll get you so far
but you have to keep working.
"The bad press has affected
him. Half the game is confidence
and all the bad press certainly
hasn't helped his confidence," he
And Krutov's reaction to the
"Fast team," he said.
T-Birds ready to soar in Canada West
by Michael Booth
Building on the success ofthe
second half of last season, the UBC
Thunderbird hockey team appears
ready to join the elite in the tough
Canada West
With 14
players returning, this year's
edition ofthe T-
Birds is easily
the most experienced UBC
squad to play for
head coach
Terry O'Malley.
"We have
an exciting team
with alot of veterans and some
exciting new
faces," O'Malley
said. "Compared
with last year,
we have a lot of
Although Jeff Crossley did not
get to play until Christmas after
transferring from the University
of Alaska- Fairbanks, he managed
to keep up a point a game pace
through the second half of last
season.    He   is
joined by first year
players     Perry
Neufeldand Steve
Shorthouse was
the leading scorer
on    the    Peace
Cariboo Junior
William's  Lake
Mustangs    last
year while
Neufeld arrives
from the New
Westminster Royals ofthe BC Junior League.
T-Bird captain Grant Delcourt Neufeld is mak-
experience and have added a lot of
size to our front lines."
Last season the team started
slow before gainingmomentum after the Christmas break. They
dropped three of their first four
games of the second half before
ripping off a string of eight straight
wins and finishing third in the
Canada West conference.
The conference race will be
even tougher this year with six
strong teams vying for one of four
play-off spots. The UBC contingent will be up to the task with a
blend of youth, skill and experience.
Scott Fearns, currently in his
fifth year with the T-Birds, centres
the team's top line with wingers
Grant Delcourt and Dave Cannon.
A solid two-way player with plenty
of speed when he needs it, Fearns
'.vas the team's second leading
scorer last year and could take
over the lead on the team's all-
time list with a strong season.
ing the transition to centre from
left wing after fourth year centre
Jay Barberie broke his wrist at the
Canadian Airlines Cup tournament
in Calgary. Barberie will be out of
the line-up until after Christmas.
Team captain and last year's
top scorer Grant
Delcourt returns
after attending
the Vancouver
Canucks' training
camp in September. Delcourt already appears to
be in mid-season
form as he scored
10 points (seven
goals, three assists) and was
named to the all-
star team at the
Canadian Airlines
Cup tournament.
"Grant is a
good two-way
player and a good
Centre Scott Fearns
leader," O'Malley
said. "He works
hard in practice
and is a good role
model for the
young players."
Delcourt on the
port side is third
year veteran Joe
Sobotin and newcomer Mike
Sobotin is a hard
working winger
who came up with
key goals for the
team last year,
O'Malley said.
Kennedy joins
the team after playing last year
for Saskatchewan's Notre Dame
The injury to Barberie has
opened up a spot at left wing with
three players from the junior varsity team in a dogfight to claim it.
The right side ofthe T-Birds
top line features the experience
and goal scoring ability of Dave
Cannon, now in his third year at
UBC. Cannon is joined by a trio of
old and new faces. Charles Cooper
returns to the
starting line-up
after spending
last season with
the junior varsity
D a r r a n
Kwiatowski is the
new face on the
right side and he
brings some size
and ability to the
Kwiatowski sat
out last season
after finishing a
junior career that
made stops in
Regina, Moose
Jaw and Tri Cit-
Defenceman Kevin Hoffman
ies. Gregg
Delcourt begins
his second year
with the team
hoping to improve on last
year's 19 point
Henry Czenczek
returns for his
fifth year and will
be paired with
Kevin Hoffman.
Hoffman and
Scott Frizzell
played a big part
in last season's
strong second
half showing after they were switched from the
wing to defence at Christmas.
Frizzell will be paired with newcomer Dean Holoien, another wayward forward turned on to the
merits of defence. Casey McMillan
is back for his second year and will
be paired with another new face,
Ross Ruttan. Kris Ganzert will be
the alternate
"I think we
have a mobile defense," O'Malley
said. "The key is
their positional
play and the defensive side of their
The last line of
defen se i s one ofthe
strongest parts of
the team as UB C i s
fortunate to be
blessed with a pair
of talented goalkeepers. Second
year goalie Ray
Woodley   is   the
workhorse of the two and should
pick up where he left off last season. Woodley started slowly but
hit his stride around the Christ
mas break. He is off to a good start
this season and, like Grant
Delcourt, was selected as an all-
star at the Canadian Cup tournament.
Woodley has a solid backup in
Brad Macdonald. Although
Macdonald did not play often last
year, when called upon he turned
in consistently strong performances. In his only appearance at
the pre-season Canadian Cup
tournament, Macdonald recorded
the shutout in a 10-0 mauling of
the University of Lethbridge
The Canada West conference
should be closer than ever and the
T-Birds have their work cut out for
them if they wish to improve on
last season's third place finish.
"I think there are five teams
that will be tough to beat," O'Malley
said. "Alberta has 15 players returning and Calgary has a lot of
speed. Manitoba and Regina both
look to be stronger and
Saskatchewan could be a sleeper.
Even Brandon and Lethbridge are
capable of beating anybody.
"There's six top
teams in the division and UBC has
to know that
teams will be
coming in here
ready for them.
The players are
confident that
they are going to
be a hard team to
beat in this
league," he said.
First game ofthe
year for the T-
Birds is this
weekend when
the University of
Regina Cougars
provide the opposition for a pair of
games. Face off is 7:30 pm on Friday and Saturday at the Winter
Sports Centre.
Goaltender Ray Woodley
October 19, 1990


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