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Array Davis issues 'racist* report
By NANCY CAMPBELL
A recently released report by a North Vancouver MLA advocating differential fees for foreign students has been labelled
racist by some students.
But Socred Jack Davis said Monday he wasn't a racist. "I'm not
racist, I'm being entirely logical," said Davis. "Call me a nationalist if you like." 	
Davis originally prepared the
report to be debated during the
presentation of universities minister
Pat McGeer's university budget.
But there was not enough time during the nine minute debate to introduce the paper and Davis subsequently distributed it to university
heads and boards of governors.
Davis said he developed the
report out of concern for accessibility for "our own people" at
universities in B.C.
"Why should (foreign students)
get a free ride while Canadians are
turned away from classes?' said
Davis. "Why should we subsidize
foreign students? Their families can
afford a (differential fee)."
Davis based his report on
statistics from 1978 released by
Statistics Canada. Out of 25,000
foreign students in Canada, 60 per
cent are Asian while only ten per
cent are American and two per cent
are British Davis said. He defined
foreign students as "students who
are presumably returning home."
Doug Fleming, Simon Fraser
University student external relations officer, charged the report
was racist.
"I find the way (Davis) makes
separations between Asian students
and Caucasian students disgusting,"
Fleming said.
Ismail Ali, president of the SFU
International Students' Association, accused the report of
discriminating against rich foreign
students while still subsidizing rich
Canadians.
"In engineering at UBC today
foreign students make up about 20
per cent of the typical class," said
the report. "Many of them don't
speak English when they arrive.
They can't write English and they
certainly haven't been through our
high school system . . . But
somehow they are accepted by our
university system; accepted when
our own young people are turned
away . . .
"And few of them ever mix with
the rest of the university community. They stay in their own tight little
groups. They rarely engage in extracurricular activities. They are not
really equipped to participate in our
North American society . . ."the
report continued.
And Davis admitted his statistics
were not sound. "I did have some
hard numbers at least on the Canadian totals," he said. But figures
like the 20 per cent foreign student
enrollment at UBC he obtained
from three engineering students at
UBC.
He said he didn't bother to check
the figures with the registrar's office.
UBC administration president
Doug Kenny said Sept. 20 at the
leadership conference he wanted to
see more visa students at UBC. He
was against the implementation of
differential fees.
But Davis is ready to override the
universities' wishes concerning differential fees. "Kenny (and the
other university presidents) have a
vested interest in having more
foreign students with no differential
fees," said Davis.
Naturally the universities want
See page 3: LOGICAL
'Lost students
require retreat'
Members of UBC's student council continue to question the value of
the frosh orientation retreat slated
for Thanksgiving weekend.
"A lot of students are coming to
UBC and a lot of them are lost,"
said student council vice-president
Marlea Haugen Monday. "Many
students were involved in council,
clubs, etc. in high school, and we
want these people to start participating in first year."
The frosh retreat is designed to
orient first year students to the
structure, policies and politics of
the major organizations on campus.
But some council members are
not in favor of another retreat. Arts
representative Brian Roach feels the
council is overdoing the orientation
conferences. (A leadership conference was held the weekend of Sept.
20 for club leaders and interested
students.)
"I can see the point that first year
.students need to know more, but
the basic heirarchy of the AMS
could be covered in five to 10 pages
of writing," Roach said Monday.
The first year students' needs can
be better met by expanding the orientation and holding it on campus
where it will be more accessible for
them, Roach said on Sept. 24.
But Haugen does not agree. "We
could get less information to more
people, but it wouldn't be worth
it," she said.
Haugen is in favor of a larger orientation on campus but the orientation retreat will be aimed at students who are more interested in
student's council, clubs and undergraduate societies, she said.
Fees for the retreat will be $10 for
students and $34 for other people,
including faculty and senate members, said Haugen.
Roach had his doubts about the
retreat, fearing the event would become purely social. But Haugen
said the retreat would not be a social affair. "(Roach) hasn't been to
any leadership conferences, and as
far as (the retreat) being a social
event, there will be no alcohol (because the first year students are
under age)," said Haugen.
Roach was skeptical that alcohol
could be kept out. "At the leadership conference there were all kinds
of alcohol," he said.
Roach agrees with Haugen that it
takes most students at least a year
to get involved in campus life, but
he does not think the frosh retreat
will change the problem.
But Haugen feels the retreat is the
best way to solve the problem. By
going away for the weekend people
would be put in an environment
where they can get to know each
other, she said. Last year a first year
council was formed as a result of
the orientation, but it broke up
shortly after, she said.
"People get involved at a high
level, after two or three years, when
they are familiar enough with the
campus to get involved," said Haugen. "Then when those people quit
their organizations, there are no
backup people.
The orientation proved itself last
year, said Haugen. "It has been debated before and people on council
know the issues and the pros and
cons. People knew what was going
on and thought the project was
worthy of money."
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GIT BACK HERE, you little varmintl screams exhausted space patrolman as extraterrestrial object wends its menacing way across the unsuspecting planet earth. Recent invasion of sinister spheres could spell doom for
humanoids as they take over last remaining greenspace and turn Sundays into a day of worship for their non-cubic
cult. "They're popping out of nowhere," gasps spacer Marty Stein. "I even kicked one into a net on Saturday during a soccer game against the University of Alberta." (See page 8.)
WI votes for social change
Canadian University Press
Students at Vancouver Vocational Institute voted almost
unanimously Thursday to join two
major student organizations.
All but 10 of 135 students at a
general meeting voted to join the
National Union of Students and the
B.C. Students Federation at an annual cost of about $1,700.
The meeting also passed motions
mandating student council to oppose a 20 per cent tuition fee increase in January, student executive
staff officer Mark Rogen said Monday.
Students also demanded improved day care faculties for all three
Vancouver Community College
campuses, including WI, Langara
and King Edward.
"Quite a few students who enroll
at WI have to later drop out because of the poor child care facilities," he said.
Rogen said he felt the closing of
the King Edward campus will seriously worsen the day care situation, because the new China Creek
campus has no provisions for day
care.
(About 150 people crowded a
public meeting this summer to protest the acute situation and the lack
of day care at the new campus.
More than 90 children are currently
on King Edward's day care waiting
list.)
Beware of commerce
Other student demands included
the right to sit on the college's management committee and the right to
have course evaluations.
Students also pressed for greater
accessibility to the college, because,
as the motion stated, "education
should be accessible to everyone not
just those who can afford it."
A better student aid program and
increases in unemployment insurance payments were other goals
adopted at the meeting.
Could it be true?
A recent world-wide survey of 1 ,-
000 management students has revealed the possibility that students
may be more motivated by greed
than social responsibility.
The survey asked students what a
company should do if a highly profitable product was found to be unsafe. Eighty per cent replied they
would   continue   production   and
fight an official ban with legal and
political action.
Researchers attribute the results
to the Eichmann Syndrome — a
name infamously connected with
Hitler's death camps — which describes a willingness to condone
harmful actions when an individual's sense of responsibility is focused on his or her narrowly perceived role. Page 2 THE   UBYSSEY Tuesday, September 30,1980
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THE    UBYSSEY
Page 3
Quebec no spoiler
By CHARLES CAMPBELL
The provincial premiers' desire
for a common position against the
federal government at the constitutional conference allowed them to
be manipulated by Rene Levesque,
said Gordon Robertson Saturday.
The former clerk of the Privy
Council and secretary to the cabinet
on federal-provincial relations told
the Vancouver Institute that Levesque orchestrated the "breakfast
consensus" which the premiers
placed before the federal government on the last day of negotiation
in the interests of separatism.
"Did the premiers believe that
Levesque would produce a document that showed his own cynicism
about the conference to be unfounded?" said Robertson.
"Levesque knew that provincial
consensus on the constitution
would allow him to blame the federal government for the failure. If
Quebec had not agreed with the
other provinces then Trudeau could
have called them the spoilers."
He said the "breakfast consensus" was a bad faith document because it returned to original provincial positions rather than recognizing compromises reached at the
conference. There was no way that
the federal government could agree
to it and Levesque knew that.
Robertson added that although
unilateral repatriation is a serious
step, the federal government must
act because of its commitment to
change in the face of the Quebec
referendum.
Unanimous agreement is impossible and a less stringent constitutional amending formula must be
introduced before negotiations can
be renewed, he said.
The federal government must
keep the repatriation package small
and predicted repatriation with a
new amending formula, a charter of
human rights and a guarantee of
economic union, Robertson said.
Robertson blamed internal
squabbling for Canada's fall as an
important international actor.
"We have so squandered our intellectual effort that we have lost
our ability to help shape the world
we want to live in. We have created
internal economic barriers that inhibit our ability to deal abroad."
He said regions must change their
attitudes and find a sense of common purpose before Canada can be
unified again.
While Robertson felt that
everyone was to blame for the
failure of the conference. He said
televising the conference exacerbated the problems.
"The premiers spent so much
time nailing their flags to the flag
pole for the people back home to
see that there was no time left for
compromise," he said.
The Vancouver Institute series of
lectures at the Woodward Instructional Resources Centre continues
through the fall. Highlights include
appearances by Tennessee Williams
on Oct. 11 and by the Dali Lama on
Oct. 23.
Students left out in cold
Two UBC students have been living on the endowment lands under a
tarp for the past month because
they were unable to find adequate
housing.
One of the men said Monday
their temporary residence situation
didn't affect their studies because
the majority of their time was spent
on campus. The two, engineering
students,   said   they   used   their
"home" only for sleeping and stayed on campus to eat and study.
"We found it easier to work because we were on campus all the
time, and it's better than residence
because there are no loud stereos,"
said one man.
Both of the men are local, coming from Burnaby and West Vancouver. They said they actively
sought proper housing in Septem-
'Logical' not racist
From page 1
more students because it increases
their funding, said Davis. "The
universities are the last places to
consult about whether differential
fees are a good idea," he said.
Davis is recommending that
foreign students pay between
$6,000 to $8,000 a year for tuition.
Their families can afford it, he said.
Davis said the 1978 statistics
show that "a vast majority of
foreign students are from well to do
families, and a great majority had
one or both parents who had attended at North American universities."
Davis said he felt Canadian
universities were being exploited by
foreign students. He said the
statistics showed that Canada was
not   a   first   choice   for   foreign
students but that they came here
because "Canada is such a good
deal."
Davis supports his report by comparing the differential fees levied
around the world. He said the
United Kingdom began charging
differential fees 18 months ago, and
West Germany, "one of the richest
nations in the world," has had differential fees for some time.
But Davis admitted he had not
contacted any of these countries, or
even other provinces in Canada
which charge differential fees
before preparing his brief.
"I like throwing something out to
people who know, and waiting for
the reaction," said Davis.
Davis said his paper will not be
discussed in the legislature until
next spring.
ber but found the search demanding
on study time.
One of the men has now found a
place to live, and the other is still
searching for affordable housing.
The men refused to be identified.
Another UBC student was living
with four other people in a one-bedroom apartment until she and six
people managed to find a house to
live in.
Barb Johnson, agriculture undergraduate society president, said
Monday, "at one point there was
one guy on the couch, two people
on the floor, and two in the bedroom.
"Some of the people were looking as far as the ,PNE area and
found that landlords wouldn't rent
to students. We were all looking for
anything we could get, from one- to
two-bedroom apartments or a
house."
But Johnson and her friends have
now found a house for seven people. "We were looking all through
August and September, but it was
getting really hectic the closer we
got to midterms," she said.
Many students are still relying on
temporary housing. "Just because
there aren't 300 people living in
tents doesn't mean that the problem
isn't there," said Yves Fricot of the
student housing and access committee Sept. 22.
— stusrt davis photo
"I'M JUST roller skating in the rain. . ." gloriously happy student sings to
himself just before skidding through a puddle and wiping out Sedgewick
skylights. He was raising money for cancer research as part of Commerce
Week's first activity. More events are planned.
SUS needs yes vote
The science undergraduate society could go the way of the passenger pigeon if its current fee referendum fails to obtain quorum or
does not pass, a SUS council representative said Monday.
Should the referendum fail SUS
faces no alternative but to disband,
Nigel Brownlow said. The referendum is needed in part to repay a
$3,500 loan made to the society by
student council to enable it to continue operations.
The referendum is combined with
the annual SUS executive elections
being held this week until Friday.
If it passes the referendum will
levy a $2 fee on all science students
starting in September 1981. The increase is up for approval now because "it is better to do it now while
the issue is hot and people are
keen," said Brownlow.
One dollar of the $2 fee will go
toward repaying the loan while the
remainder will pay for the SUS program and operating expenses.
SUS does not usually levy fees,
said Brownlow, but this year it has
become imperative that money be
raised.
Free press pulls monstrous hoax
BOULTBEE . . . tells it like it is.
- trie eggortson photo
By GENE LONG
"Our concept of free press is
merely used as an excuse for incredible arrogance. It is only when you
actually live in the third world do
you realize how manipulative the
Western media really is."
Jeremy Boultbee, a Canadian
journalist who covered the 1974
Portuguese revolution for Maclean's, spoke to a group of about 30
people in SUB 241k on Friday on
the irresponsibility of the Western
media.
According to Boultbee, newspapers, radio and television in the
West "are pulling a monstrous
hoax. People are simply not being
informed about what is going on in
the world around them."
"The Portuguese revolution was
one of the most outstanding events
of the twentieth century. What do
people know about it? The Western
journalists in Portugal were only interested in stories involving violence
and the threat of communism.
There was a total of six people kill
ed in the revolution and the communists were never close to taking
over but that wasn't the story you
got."
Boultbee says it's "depressing"
to hear the misconceptions people
have about the third world. "I came
home this time and my son was
wearing a T-shirt that said 'fuck
Iran.' It is really alarming when it
hits that close."
Boultbee said the English language accounts for a lot of the arrogance of the West. He is presently
teaching English at the University
of Lisbon, where he conducted a
survey to see how many students
could speak another language.
"Ninety per cent of the students interviewed could carry a conversation in at least four languages. Most
students over here don't even know
where Portugal is on the map."
"Journalists from the West are
the same," he said. "The Reuters
correspondent in Portugal couldn't
speak Portuguese."
"The most impressive and serious work being done there was by
reporters from Eastern Europe.
Maybe they don't have to worry
about selling newspapers, but their
main interest was in writing a thorough, sensitive account of what was
happening. They understood what
the word revolution meant."
"The whole system and the distorted notion of free press needs to
be overhauled. We need a different
kind of newsperson in the streets,
we need editors who are more aware
of the realities of the world, and we
need a complete reorganization of
information services."
Boultbee was conscious of the
implications of such changes. "The
media is at the core of the establishment. As long as people take an interest in demanding better information, there is hope for change. I
don't know. Maybe we need to take
Thomson out and assassinate him."
His disillusionment was broken
with a wry grin. Page 4
THE    UBYSSEY
Tuesday, September 30,1980
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THE UBYSSEY
September 30,1980
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays end Frideys throughout the university yeer by the Alma Mater
Society of the University of B.C. Editoriel opinions ere those of the staff snd not of the AMS or
the university edministration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page
Friday, a weekly commentary end review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Editor: Verne McDonald *
It was Nancy Campbell's big day. At last she had entered the automotive era. Verne McDonald and Glen Sanford offered to be the first couple to have it off in
the new vehicle since Steve McClure and Gail Shaw had already bagged off getting it on in a Cortina. "What's wrong with a Cortina? I was born in one,"
squeaked diminutive ex-co-scum Tom Hawthorn to no one in particular as Gray McMullen, Warren Kowbel and Jo-Anne Falkiner applied axle grease to each
other's warm and hairy parts. Scott McDonald and Randy Beres rubbed the hard, warm exhaust pipe of the black Campbell's car and begged Chris Fulker to
suck the manifold. "Never on the first five thousand miles," said the recalcitrant autophobe. I'd rather work in a hatcheck room in Des Moines." Eric Eggertson
and Stuart Davis took pictures of the motley crew as they all careened off a cliff orgasmically.
Not racist ?
Jack Davis is not a racist.
You can be sure of it; he said so himself.
But Jack Davis does discriminate against foreigners, especially
those with the particular bad luck not to be from Britain or the U.S.
He wants B.C. to institute differential fees for foreign students
because he thinks nasty people from other parts of the world are
preventing our own homegrown youths from getting into post-
secondary institutions here.
Gee, and we'd always been told any Canadian who wanted to
could get to university.
Dry ironies aside, what Davis is proposing — and worse, how
he is framing that proposal — is still a full-frontal attack on many of
the principles any democracy should consider inviolate.
A free society does not discriminate against any human
because of race, creed or national origin. Differential fees are
discriminatory beyond any doubt.
But there's a deeper violation of that principle here. When
Davis wanted to know how many foreign students there were at
UBC, he asked a few students he knew to check in their classes
and report the percentage. From this absurdly unscientific survey
he obtained a figure of 20 per cent.
Since it's unlikely those students actually asked every person
in their classes whether they were indeed from another country, we
can only assume something more sinister occurred — they simply
counted everyone in the room who was not white and not known
to them.
After all, every real Canadian is white, eh?
Such thinking doesn't amaze us, though, coming from a
former minister in the Socred cabinet. What does amaze us is
Davis, in preparing his report, did not ask the registrars at B.C.'s
universities, nor even his fellow MLA Pat McGeer about how many
foreign students there actually are.
Even The Ubyssey, humble purveyors of misinformation that
we are, could have told him that a figure of 20 per cent for foreign
students at UBC is well beyond the imagination of the most
paranoid racist.
No matter how you slice it up, Davis is making a mistake. We
need visa students. They provide our own young people with
perspective, they will take our ideas back to their own countries to
improve relations among all peoples and education them will improve the world we live in.
Davis said he would like to override the objections of the
universities, the Universities Council of B.C. and anyone else who
wants to get in the way of his plan to charge students up to $6,000
a year for their education.
No, Jack Davis is not a racist. But there's nothing to indicate
he has any belief in tolerance or democracy, either.
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Media article missed major points
I found The Ubyssey's article on!
the public meeting concerning the
media commission made interesting
reading. Apparently, the debating
society's only interest in the meeting
was a chance to sharpen our debating skills. Our briefs were claimed
to be tangential and irrelevant.
After all, we just wanted to attack
The Ubyssey.
I would like to review the briefs
presented by the debating society in
an attempt to show that we were interested in more than just vibrating
our vocal cords.
The first brief was presented by
our vice-president, Simon van Nor-
den. He described the frustration
felt by many campus organizations
that try to get news published in
The Ubyssey.
I suppose this was the speech that
is accused of attacking The Ubyssey, and I agree that it did attack
some of the practises of the paper.
However, immediately dismissing
the brief as irrelevant ignores some
important points.
It seems to me that one of the primary objectives of a public meeting
on the media commission should be
to question whether such a commission should even exist or whether the status quo is acceptable.
Simon tried to point out that, to
many people on campus, the status
quo is unacceptable and an alternative, such as the media commission,
is needed.
Why is it that this brief is criticized as irrelevant when another,
which stated that the media commission is not needed because The
Ubyssey is doing a proper job, does
not receive this criticism? How can
an opinion on an issue be less relevant than the opposing view on the
same issue? Flip a coin: if it's tails, I
win; if it's heads, it's irrelevant.
Verne McDonald later claimed
that the meeting showed that a
media commission was probably
not necessary; Simon tried to show
that the debating society, along
with other clubs and undergraduate
societies, wants some body that
would improve accessibility to the
campus newspaper. The fact that
Simon received the lion's share of
applause indicates that many people
at the meeting shared his feelings.
Now that the question of whether
the media commission should exist
has been ruled irrelevant, let me
continue to the next brief. It was
presented by Richard Clark, president of the debating society. He
discussed, and supported, an idea
that has been creeping around the
second floor of SUB for many months: a weekly, four-page clubs' supplement that would be distributed
with The Ubyssey.
'Self-righteous posturing' hit
You welcome letters from all
readers? Good — I'd like to respond to the letter (Sept. 23) from
David Malloy about the Ku Klux
Klan.
Mr. Malloy in his sententious
song of dogma and his pompous
moralizing about "fascism" and
"racism" is just as dangerously fanatical about his views as he wishes
us to believe of Allen Soroka or
anyone else who can see a shred of
logic in the purpose of the KKK.
Although I cannot myself take on
the KKK extremist stance, I also deplore types like Malloy with their
self-righteous posturing.
People like Mr. Malloy are as racist, misguided and blind to a sense
of freedom of speech and democracy as those they denounce. True
graduates of the "my-way-or-the-
wrong-way" school, indeed!
Slowly but surely all people are
beginning to see what a mockery the
demagoguery of "human rights" is
becoming. Banning people from
one country or another because of
their opinions and beliefs is wrong.
Lawsuits and kangaroo courts of
human rights boards, and fining the
person whom the "charge" is flung
at only benefits the lawyers' wallets.
People in most of the world have
gotten along together and loved and
appreciated each other for years
and simply for the human beings inside (not for skin, religion, et cetera). People left on their own do
fine — it's the political parties, ad
hoc groups and so-called bleeding
heart savior groups filled with
phony people more interested in
making a name for themselves that
are at fault.
All have spoiled what can and
does prosper without them. All they
succeed in doing is alienating people
in groups.
The natural ease I felt while going
to high school in the '70s (and that
my father knew in the '40s) of having friends in classmates from all
parts of the globe and diverse backgrounds is in jeopardy.
One was picked for the graduation speech not because of sex or
ethnic background — you were
picked because you had the best
grades or were the best "all-
around" student. But what is
spawned from thinking like Mr.
Malloy's is that what counts is your
minority heritage or the fact that
you are of a certain sex, religion or
political leaning.
Symbols! And symbols are a
death-knell. The person inside
doesn't count then — it is her/his
outside "wrappings" that carry
weight. Ability and character are
secondary. This is wrong!
This is exactly what will become
the item of the '80s as far as social
issues go: it is reverse discrimination. If you want a tried and true
case look to the famous "Bakke
case" where a man was turned
down for medical school not because of his grades but because he
was white.
Laugh if you want but the future
is not to be escaped and that is a
glimpse of the future.
And you're right, David Malloy
— it's very disturbing.
Rhonda O'Neill
(night student)
Richard proposed that the function of the media commission not
be to control The Ubyssey and
CITR but rather be to administer
this clubs' supplement. (On the
practical matter of assemblying the
supplement, Richard stated that at
least one club — you guessed it: the
debating society — would be willing
to supply manpower to work on this
supplement.)
He felt that this solution, while
not perfect, would allow the clubs
to have a medium for their information, while The Ubyssey staff
would be able to uphold their journalistic ideals. Of course, this brief
was also deemed irrelevant.
If they didn't want to discuss
whether the media commissic"
should exist and they didn't want to
discuss what the powers and
responsibilities of this commission
should be, what did the committee
want to discuss? As far as I could
tell, the only thing that interested
them was the question of how many
commission members should come
from the AMS and how many
should be from The Ubyssey and
CITR.
If I was cynical, I might suspect
that the meeting was designed to be
a farce. That way, the committee
could make whatever decision they
wanted, and, if someone complained, they could claim — as one committee member has already claimed
— that "we tried to go the people."
It was nice of them to make the gesture.
John Miller
applied science 2 Tuesday, September 30,1980
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Dogmatic atheists are too stuck on reason
Some remarks are in order concerning Kurt Preiusperger's article,
A Logical Look at the Church
Cults.
In the article religious people in
general, and Christians in particular, are variously described as "befogged," "self-deluded," "superstitious," "fraudulent," "absurd,"
"obsessed," "bigoted," et cetera.
These qualities are set in opposition
to the enlightened, rational, sane
and honest voice of atheism.
Thus logic, or reason, is set up as
an independent, non-biased entity
before which all things can be truly
Suggested
sponges
slammed
I am writing in response to Jennifer Elliott's interesting letter on natural birth control. Perhaps she has
not seen the interesting series of articles in the Vancouver Sun the past
few nights on the subject of Toxic
Shock Syndrome and Proctor and
Gamble's voluntary recall of the
Rely tampon.
This particular tampon was advertised in U.S. women's magazines
as being composed of synthetic
sponges and has been cited as the
possible cause of this bacterial illness. This same illness has caused
the deaths of three women.
With this in mind, I would seriously reconsider using Jennifer's
silk sponges as they would act as a
lovely culture medium for bacteria,
perhaps even for Toxic Shock Syndrome, and I certainly wouldn't
recommend its use to any of my
friends. I'll stick to good old cellu-
cotton, thanks.
J. M. Obserski
science 5
and adequately judged. Unfortunately for atheists, this is not as obviously true as is generally believed.
To place one's faith in reason is,
strictly speaking, as dogmatic a position as is Christianity.
The point is this: there is no such
thing as an autonomous 'Reason.'
Rather, there are certain pre-theor-
etical motivations which guide
one's entire world view. Mr. Preiusperger's pre-theoretical position is
unbelief; the result: he places his ultimate faith in Reason.
The Christian's pre-theoretical
position is belief, the result being a
faith in a living God. To elaborate
further: Mr. Preiusperger's trust in
reason is itself not the result of a rational process. Instead, it is the consequence of a religious decision of
his heart.
Consequently, one cannot expect
reason to lead one to a knowledge
of God. Even to embark on such an
inquiry precludes the possibility of
transferring ultimate authority
from the self to God, which is a necessary prerequisite of faith.
The truth about God will not be
found out by philosophical speculation. (Incidentally, the only truth
that philosophers have agreed upon
is that there is nothing about which
men can be certain.) Instead, God
reveals himself to all men through
the world (i.e. Creation) and the
Word (i.e. the bible). Note that
God reveals himself. One does not,
as it were, stumbled upon Him
through good fortune and diligence
of inquiry.
In light of Mr. Preiusperger's
(and all other atheists') rational arrogance, it is not surprising to see
that a grossly incorrect view of
Christianity is presented. Contrary
to his depictions, Christians are not
warmongers; they are not witch
hunters, nor are they fatalists.
Granted, great evils have been
perpetrated in the name of God.
Often, hypocrites and misguided
people have horrified non-believers
The Ubyssey would like to
apologize to all those who
sent in letters rebutting Kurt
Preiusperger's article in
Thursday's paper.
Your letters should appear
as we find space during the
next week or more. And anyone else who wishes to damn
Preiusperger is reminded that
their viewpoint is already
well represented.
It is unlikely we will accept
any more letters on the sub-
ject for publication.
Reply ignored issue
Sgt. Hardy's reply to my letter of
Sept. 17 ignored my main question,
which was "why the tow-away plus
a $35 parking fine?" Why such
heavy measures after insufficient information to students about the
(new?) regulations against parking
on Chancellor Boulevard?
RCMP officer Derouin's remark
in The Ubyssey (Sept. 26) that "you
don't put no-parking signs on free-
Why all the complaints?
For the life of me, I can't understand what all the complaints regarding the Pit renovations are
about. With a referendum asking
for money to build the new pub by
the Barn promised, it seems clear to
me that the AMS was simply trying
to make the Pit as cold and as uncomfortable as possible in the hope
that everyone would scream "yes"
in that upcoming vote.
I think they've accomplished exactly what they wanted. After only
one trip to the new Pit, I already
can't wait until the new pub is completed.
Consequently, while everyone
else is busy complaining about xan-
thic renovations, I would like to
take the opportunity to applaud the
AMS on their ingenuity and foresight. You can bet that I'll be one of
the first in line to cast a resounding
"yes" for the new establishment.
I only hope they don't have plans
for any further referenda. I'd hate
to see them have to use the same
strategy on the new pub; one Pit is
enough.
Bob Halifax
law 1
ways" is irrelevant unless Chancellor Boulevard is designated as a
freeway. In view of the large number of cars parked there on 'Tow-
away Day,' Sept. 12, it's evident
that no parking signs are necessary
— surely the obvious answer to a
currently ambiguous situation.
On contacting the legal services
department of the provincial government, I was told that Chancellor
Boulevard is designated a highway
and is under the jurisdiction of the
department of highways and not the
University Endowment Lands as
might be expected.
I'm waiting for further information from the above office this
week.
Kathleen Baker
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be assessed if payment of the first instalment is not made on
or before September 19. Refund of this fee will be considered
only on the basis of a medical certificate covering illness or on
evidence of domestic affliction. If fees are not paid in full by
October 3,1980, registration will be cancelled and the student
concerned excluded from classes.
If a student whose registration has been cancelled for nonpayment of fees applies for reinstatement and the application
is approved by the Registar, the student will be required to
pay a reinstatement fee of $35.00, and all other outstanding
fees before being permitted to resume classes.
by their miserable deeds. But that is
all very one-sided. Historically,
Christianity (even judged by the
standards of an atheist) has had a
tremendously good and beautiful
influence on society.
One could on writing, replying to
every point made in the article.
Since that would likely be useless
and would consume too much
space, it will not be here attempted.
It is hoped, however, that enough
has been said to show that Christ
ians are not self-deluded, nor are
they in a state of torpor, nor are
they committed to the unexamined
life.
On the contrary, Christians possess truth, the only Truth, and to
them the existence of a personal,
loving God is so real that it is actually incomprehensible that others
should fail, or, to be more correct,
should refuse to believe.
Rob Schouten
arts 2
Kenny speaks (sort of)
In last Tuesday's paper you
'wished' that at least one of us so-
called student leaders could
remember what Kenny said at the
conference. Well, The Ubyssey's
wish is my command, as they say.
He spoke at length on the structure of the president's office, what
power it had and what power it
hadn't. He also spoke of turning
UBC into a "world-class" university by improving the standards of
both students and faculty, and
made a plea for increased funding.
He said that the creation of
UCBC was a mistake, as universities needed to be able to go directly
to the ministerial level, and criticized their funding formula as discriminating against UBC by overestimating "economies of scale." He
also spoke of a need to educate society in general on the value of universities.
In response to questions, Kenny
defended the university's policy on
international students and emphatically ruled out the possibility of a
two-tier tuition system. At the same
time, he mentioned that public perceptions in this area (and in funding
in general) had to be changed.
He also spoke of a 1.7% salary
reduction, and noted that the responsibility for applying that reduction to individuals rested with faculties, rather than his office.
He expressed disagreement with
the idea of a second engineering
school in the province, and said the
faculty of applied science here
would have to move quickly to evaluate and improve its programs to
prevent that second school from being built.
No doubt he said more, but that's
all I can remember off the top of
my head. I didn't go out to Elphinstone to argue with the administration either — but it doesn't
mean that none of us were listening.
If you're really interested, why
don't you ask Kenny?
Richard Clark
We've been trying to contact
Doug Kenny about cutbacks since
the leadership conference. If you
see him, Richard, tell him. — The
Ubyssey staff.
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'Tween classes
TODAY
PC CLUB
Tom Siddon, MP for Richmond-D^tta, speaks on
constitutional reform and provincial ownership
of natural resources, noon, SUB 206.
DANCE CLUB
Free introductory lessons, noon SUB party
room.
CHARISMATIC CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP
Singing, prayer and fellowship meeting, noon,
SUB 211.
INTRAMURALS
Women's basketball league begins, noon. War
Memorial gym.
HUMAN SETTLEMENTS VIEWING CENTRE
Videotape of Barbara Ward's 1976 address to UN
conference on human settlements, noon. Library
Processing 306.
CCCM
Eucharist, noon, Lutheran Campus Centre.
INSTITUTE OF ASIAN RESEARCH
Film: North China Commune, noon, Buch. 106.
PRE-MED SOCIETY
Lecture on volunteer activities with speakers
from the Vancouver Volunteer Bureau and UBC
volunteer centre, noon, IRC-1.
TAU
General meeting for members only, noon, grad
centre garden room.
WOMEN'S COMMITTEE
General meeting, noon, SUB 130.
ENGLISH DEPARTMENT
English department colloquium with Prof. Roger
Seamon speaking on Criticism as education and
therapy: A theory of discourses on art, 3:30
p.m., Buch. penthouse.
LSM
Dinner followed by discussion. Studying the bible part 3 — food fetishes, 6 p.m., Lutheran
Campus Centre.
free dancing
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"I know I can dance, I know I can
dance. . . "
The UBC dance club will be giving free noon hour demonstrations
and introductory lessons for the
jive, swing and polka every day this
week in the SUB party room. New
joiners are welcome and you don't
need a partner.
FINE ARTS
Exhibit of anti-nuciear paintinga, all day, Laaaerre
exhibit lobby.
ROCKERS CO-OP
INf ormation on thia naw club ia available from 9
a.m. to 5 p.m. any week day at 228-5446.
WEDNESDAY
INTRAMURALS
Deadline for regiatration in the women'a tennia
tournament acheduled for Sunday from 9 a.m. to
6 p.m.
SUB BOOKINGS
Room bookinga for January to April. 1961, 9
a.m., AMS buaineaa office.
DANCE CLUB
Free  introductory  leaaona,   noon,   SUB  party
room.
NDP CLUB
Election, noon, SUB 211.
SAILING CLUB
General meeting and film, new members welcome, noon, SUB 207/209.
SCIENCE FICTION SOCIETY
General  meeting  and  diacu88ion  on  Utopia,
noon, SUB 111.
RESEARCH PARK COMMITTEE
Meeting to aaek atudent input into Discovery
Park, new membera welcome, noon, SUB 113.
STUDENT COUNCIL FOR
EXCEPTIONAL CHILDREN
Meeting with Mr. and Ms.  Lovegrove, foster
parents of handicapped children, noon, Scarfe
1005.
HISTORICAL DANCE
Discussion on History of Dance, 1400 to 1660,
noon, SUB 115.
CCM
Community meal, 5:30 p.m., Lutheran Campus
Centre.
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Hot flashes
ranged, nor is the world out to get
you.
The message in Friday's 'Tween
Classes, which Stated that the Institute of Asian Research was
showing the film North China Commune, at noon, was wrong. In fact,
the film is being shown today.
Got it? The film North China
Commune will be shown today in
Buch. 106 at noon. This is not a
mispint.
YOOA
Meeting, 7 p.m., SUB 115/117.
FINE ARTS
Exhibit of anti-nuclear painting, all day, La8serre
exhibit lobby.
THURSDAY
PSYCHOLOGY STUDENTS' ASSOCIATION
General meeting, noon, SUB ballroom.
ANTHROPOLOGY/SOCIOLOGY
UNDERGRAD SOC
Free films: Saul Aliinaky on Indian act; Masset
potlatch; Immigrant's first five yeara in Canada,
noon, ANSO 207/206.
ISMAILI STUDENT ASSOCIATION
First general meeting, noon, SUB 119.
DEBATING SOCIETY
Training eession, noon, Buch. 204.
CCCM
James Packer speaks on evil, noon, SUB 215.
AQUASOC
General meeting, noon, SUB 117.
WOMEN'S COMMITTEE
Lesbian drop-in, noon, SUB 130 (women's centre).
INTRAMURALS
61st annual Arts '20 relay, 1 p.m., from VGH to
UBC bookstore.
CAMPUS CAVALIERS
Last chance to join square dance club, 6:30
p.m., SUB ballroom.
TOASTMASTERS
Meeting, 7:30 p.m., MacMillan 278.
FINE ARTS
Exhibit of anti-nuclear paintings and slides, music, and discussion, all day. Lasserre exhibit lobby.
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Any teams of eight who wish to
run the 61st annual Arts '20 relay
must register by Wednesday. Registration fees go to the Terry Fox
cancer fund.
The race starts at 1 p.m. Thursday at the Vancouver General
Hospital. The finish line will be located in front of the UBC bookstore.
Him today
In case you wandered into Buch.
106 Friday and discovered, instead
of a film, emptiness, fear not fearless student. You do not have poor
eyesight, nor are you mentally de-
Run for ton
Students who enjoy sweating
heavily, developing blisters on their
feet, or suffering terrible stomach
or leg cramps have the last chance
to enter a competition specifically
tailored for their type of masochism
this Wednesday.
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STUDENTS!!
This is your chance to get involved with your AMS.
Join the PROGRAMS COMMITTEE — Speakers, Concerts, Special
Events. See Cynthia in SUB 238 for more information.
Applications are now being received for one (1) position on the STUDENT
ADMINISTRATIVE COMMISSION. Applications are available in SUB 238.
Submit your application to Marlea Haugen in SUB 240. Deadline: Friday,
Oct. 3, 1980 by 4:30 p.m.
Applications are now being received for the following positions on
STUDENTS' COURT:
Chief Justice — must be in 3rd year Law
Four (4) Judges
Two (2) Alternate Judges
(At least one (1) judge must be enrolled in Law)
Applications are available in SUB 238. Submit them to Marlea Haugen in
SUB 240. Deadline: Friday, Oct. 10, 1980 by 4:30 p.m.
FRIDAY
INTRAMURALS
Deadline for women to regiater teams in tha
novelty swim meet and deadline for registration
for inner-tube water league.
LSM
TGIF gym activities, 2:40 p.m., Lutheran Campua Centre. TGIF happy hour, 4:30 p.m., Lutheran Campus Centre.
GRAD STUDENT ASSOCIATION
Annual general meeting, followed by free wine
and cheese, 5:30 p.m., Grad Centre ballroom.
SKYDIVING CLUB
General meeting, all welcome, noon, SUB 213.
FINE ARTS
Exhibit of anti-nuclear paintinga, all day, Laaaerre
exhibit lobby.
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THE   UBYSSEY
Page 7
Pugwash needed to study science
By ANDRE SOBOLEWSKI
Investigators in a U.S. laboratory
have recently isolated a hormone
which inhibits the aging process. A
large pharmaceutical company has
already obtained exclusive distri-
Would this generate hordes of older
people? The alternative to this Mal-
thusian scheme is to prohibit reproduction (a choice contemplated by
overpopulated countries. . .). On
the other hand we may end up with
perspectives
buting rights and expects to have
this hormone on the market before
next year.
We may read these headlines in
the near future. Everyone will eagerly await the appearance of this
wonder drug. At last, the long-time
dream of immortality will be within
reach.
I now ask you: can you imagine
the social repercussions of such a
novelty? We can hardly offer proper care to our older generation:
Andre Sobolewski is a graduate
student in the microbiology department. Perspectives is a column of
comment and opinion open to
members of the university community.
dynasties of intellectuals or wealthy
individuals if access to this drug was
restricted.
It is an undeniable fact that scientific activity has a profound impact on society. Yet such impact is
hardly appreciated by the scientists
engaged in research; at best it is analyzed by the social scientist after
the event occurred.
No one can deny that such consequences are often beneficial; for instance the finding that insulin can
control diabetes. However we can
be led into undesirable situations if
we disregard the negative repercussions of scientific activity. This is
how we have hopped from disaster
to disaster, from Hiroshima to thalidomide.
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If you are currently on a Faculty of Commerce undergraduate, licentiate, or graduate program, have a sincere
desire to become a chartered accountant, and will graduate in
1981, we would like to meet you.
We will be recruiting on campus from November 3 to
November 7. Persons desiring to meet our representatives
must apply for an interview in writing and forward their
resumes to the Campus Placement Centre by October 1,1980.
These applications will be pre-screened. Students selected for
interviews will be contacted as quickly as possible to make appointments through the Campus Placement Centre.
Peat, Marwick, Mitchell &Ca
Chartered Accountants
Representatives of our Vancover and other British Columbia offices will be on campus October 27 through October 31 at the Canada Employment Centre.
As an international firm of Chartered Accountants, we
would like to meet with those of you who will be eligible
for student registration with the Institute of Chartered
Accountants of British Columbia.
Arrangements for interviews can be made through the
Canada Employment Centre, Brock Hall, by October 1,
1960.
Our present ad hoc approach can
only lead to further immense problems with which you and I will have
to wrestle. How do we deal with findings in fields such as sociobiology,
armament technology, behavioral
manipulation, climate control or
food to fuel conversion? A solution
may lie in confronting the scientist
with the social implications of his
work. It is with this aim in mind
that I wish to establish a local wing
of the Canadian Student Pugwash.
Members of the UBC community
who share such a concern are invit
ed to meet this Friday, Oct. 3 at
12:30 in SUB 205.
We must acquire a greater wisdom to benefit most from scientific
research or we may soon lose the
privilege of trial and error.
Geometry
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pan. Kid arrives home.
Mother presents pie to kid.
He looks at it and screams,
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THE   UBYSSEY
Tuesday, September 30,1980
PAT-A-CAKE, pat-a-cake baker's man is the refrain heard lately at Thunderbird stadium as eager home-ec
students try revolutionary culinary gridiron tactics in preparation for Oct. 15T-Cup game against nursing students.
Pigskin sages have not ruled out the possibility of pastry-throwing and batter-spattering tactics being used in
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Dinos dumped in defense drive
By RANDY BERES
The UBC Thunderbirds' defence
played well in the team's 6-1 triumph over the University of Calgary Dinosaurs in football action
Friday night.
The 'Birds defensive backs intercepted seven passes from Calgary
quarterback Greg Vavra to provide
most of the excitement. Dave Singh
led in interceptions for UBC with
three while Brian Branting snared
two; Don Moen and Laurent Des-
Lauriers each had one.
Singh's defensive efforts earned
him the Molson's MVP award for
the game.
Ken Munro was responsible for
all of UBC's scoring with two field
goals. His first came at the 13:30
mark of the first quarter, which was
played almost entirely in the Dinosaurs' end.
Munro added to the 'Birds' lead
with his second 'field goal of the
night only 4:42 into the second
quarter, rounding out UBC's scoring for the night.
Munro's first field goal came as a
result of the 'Birds defence mobbing Calgary punter Gord Elser on
his own 15-yard line after a bad
snap. The 'Birds settled for the
35-yard field goal after two unsuccessful attempts at moving the ball.
His second field goal came after a
Calgary fumble at their own
41-yard line.
UBC's quarterback Dave Thistle
shone on a number of occasions
with nice carries, and finished the
night with 15 keepers for a total of
84 yards, with his longest being a
33-yard sprint. Running back Peter
Leclaire also carried 21 times for 84
yards.
After the game coach Frank
Smith said, "I was glad to see the
offence clicking in the second half,
now we just have to work on finishing off our drives."
On a sad note, the 'Birds saw the
loss of defensive back Mike Canic,
who sustained a knee injury which
will sideline him for the rest of the
year. Bernie Glier will be out for
three weeks with a pulled hamstring.
The Thunderbirds, who are now
in second place in the Western Intercollegiate Conference with a 2-2
record, play their next game against
the U of A Huskies in Edmonton
on Saturday, Oct. 4. The 'Birds
next home game is an exhibition
match against the SFU Clansmen in
the annual Shrum Bowl, Oct. 17 at
Empire Stadium.
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'Birds tie twice
to stay on top
By SCOTT McDONALD
and WARREN KOWBEL
The UBC men's soccer team kept
their undefeated streak intact this
weekend by tieing the University of
Calgary 0-0 on Friday and the University of Alberta 1-1 on Saturday.
This leaves the 'Birds with a 2-0-3
record and first place in the Canada
West conference.
The 'Birds biggest problem on
the weekend was not being able to
score. According to 'Bird coach Joe
Johnson UBC "could not pull the
trigger" near their opponent's goal.
On Friday against Calgary the
'Birds did manage to score once.
Unfortunately it was called back on
a charging foul on forward Gordy
Johnson.
UBC 'keeper David Jones was
only threatened once in the Calgary
match. Late in the second half
Jones had to stretch full-length to
turn aside a low Calgary drive.
The 'Birds had several other good
scoring opportunities besides the
goal that was called back. Bruce
Biles, UBC's left winger, had a field
day on his check. But the UBC centre forwards failed to capitalize on
his crosses. And Marty Stein, off a
cross from Grant Olson, had his
shot blocked at the near post by the
Calgary 'keeper.
The 'Birds did manage to score a
couple on Saturday. Marty Stein
capped off a beautiful mid-field
drive by unleashing a rocket into
the lower right side of the goal.
Alberta tied the game on a similar
play. Ase Ayobaham took advantage of poor marking by UBC's
defence to hit a low, well-placed
shot past Jones.
The 'Birds aversion to shooting
also affected them in the Alberta
game. Biles, Joel Johnson and Ron
Grant all had excellent chances to
score, but stymied themselves by
trying to beat one extra man.
Alberta's coach Bruce Twamley
said that he thought that the UBC
team was the most skillful in the
league.
Johnson said that he plans on
having the 'Birds take extra shooting practise this week in preparation
for this Friday's away game with
the University of Victoria. As UVic
is only two points behind UBC
Johnson said that he considers the
game a must-win situation.
Women keep winning
Concentration on intensive attack proved to be the key for the
Thunderettes, making them the big
winners this weekend in the first
three Canada West field hockey
tournaments.
In going undefeated in four
games played at the tournament in
Edmonton, UBC racked up 17
goals and allowed only one to be
scored against them.
Coach Gail Wilson attributes this
to the concentration on shooting
she is developing in the players.
"We're shooting more, therefore
we're scoring more," she said.
In the first game of the tournament Calgary went down by a score
of 6-0. The Thunderettes were next
matched with the University of Alberta squad and defeated them 4-0.
The third game against the University of Victoria was the toughest.
UBC allowed their only goal of the
weekend and had to work to UVic
2-1.
Saskatchewan fell to UBC in the
last game of the afternoon 5-0.
Wilson credited the Thunderettes
fine showing to a good team effort.
Anne Crofts and Mary Reid, the
two UBC links, played consistently
well all weekend and kept the mid-
field under control, but everyone
excelled, she said.
Wilson said she played as many
players as she could under the athletic association rules.
The Thunderettes, now in first
place, will play in the second Canada West tournament two weeks
from now in Victoria.
Find out how UBC works . . .
and how to make it work for you.
FIRST-YEAR
RETREAT
A CONFERENCE WEEKEND FOR
FIRST YEAR STUDENTS AT
CAMP ELPHINSTONE
OCTOBER 10-12
• All first-year students are welcome to attend. Registration is
limited.
• Meet faculty, staff and alma mater society representatives during
the informal discussion and seminar program . . . and enjoy the
convivial atmosphere of the Sunshine Coast.
• A modest fee of $10 per student covers transportation on land
water, camp food and accommodation. (Bus leaves campus at
6:00 p.m. Friday.)
• To register call or drop into the alumni office, Cecil Green Park,
6251 Cecil Green Park Road, (or Campus Mail), 228-3313, (8:30
a.m. to 4:30 p.m.)
A Student Affairs Program of
the UBC Alumni Association

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