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Array UBYSSEY
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VOLUME 75, NUMBER 20
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CIRCULATION 15 000
FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 20,  1992
Publishing continuously since 1918
Tuition rally BoGs down
by Sara Martin and
Doug Ferris
150 students marched into
the Old Administration Building yesterday chanting "No way
Strangway" in opposition to an
18 per cent tuition hike.
The Board of Governors was
meeting to discuss a tuition increase which could amount to
$330 more per student next year,
perhaps starting as early as
January.
Martin Ertl, AMS president
said, "We already have 500 signatures on a petition, and by
January we will have 5,000 plus."
He believes that the BoG
will have no other recourse but
to pay attention.
Michael Hughes, the student
council member who organized
the rally said, students are not
only not being consulted about
the allocation of these tuition
increases, but issues such as
lighting on campus (a concern of
many students) are not being
addressed.
"If students pay 18 per cent
more is the quality of their education going to go up 18 per cent?
You don't really know where it's
going to go," he said.
Of this 18 per cent increase,
three per cent is to go to a
teaching and learning enhancement fund, two per cent is to go
to student aid, four per cent is to
go to general operating costs, 1.5
per cent is to go to new programs, and the rest is supposedly to go to cover the inflation
rate.
This would represent a 50
per cent tuition fee increase since
1988.
Ertl said, no final decision
would be made by the Board of
Governor's until January, but it
was important to express the existence of a non-apathetic student
population.
"The decision does not lie
with the Board alone, it also lies
with all levels of government. It
is not fair for students to bear the
responsibility just because the
other partner in education [the
government] is not," he said.
Tom Perry, advanced education minister, was asked Thursday if he thought tuition fees
should be increased to subsidize
education.
Perry said, "That even if fees
were increased it wouldn't make
much of a difference, unless it
was an astronomical increase,"
and that an "18 per cent increase
is pretty bloody high!"
Ken Bagshaw, chair of BoG,
welcomed the students to the
meeting, and said they were,
"willing to accommodate this unexpected pleasure."
Students expressed some
real life financial concerns to illustrate their inability to meet
these increased monetary demands in an already unfriendly
economic climate.
Issues such as student parents trying to support their children andlimitedlow paying part-
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time student employment were
presented to the Board.
While Strangway remained
silent, Bagshaw responded by
saying, "These kinds of personal
circumstances have been brought
to our attention. We try to be
sensitive to these problems. We
were in the same boat once."
A student replied that at
least they [the members of the
Board] were able to find jobs and
"were not saddled with a $25,000
debt."
The concerns of Engineering
students were strongly represented at the rally. The 18 per
cent increase would only include
students who are registered in
30 credits or less, but for Engineering students, who are always
required to take additional
credits, the increase will be more
dramatic.
Bagshaw tried to reassure
the protesters.
"We strive hard, and you
really are the clients and we have
to serve you. There will be decisions in a lot of areas, and well
remember today, well respect
your views and the manner in
which you presented them," he
said.
While Bagshaw suggested
students take their concerns to
Victoria and complain to the provincial government, he was impressed with student turnout at
the rally.
"The gods are on your side
because the sun came out" he
said.
Behind closed doors, Student Council decides that
Yuri Fulmer not to be removed from Ombuds office
by Denise Woodley
What were you doing on
Thursday, November 12?
Watching the Simpsons? Catching up on LA Law?
Maybe at the AMS Student
Council Meeting? Unfortunately,
most of you were not.
There were two controversial motions on the agenda:
one to have Ombudsperson Yuri
Fulmer removed from office, and
the other to keep AMS members
ignorant of the allegations and
the proceedings.
Council goes in camera
Council voted in favour of
going in camera, and at this point
everyone who was not a member
of council had to leave.
What went on behind closed
doors cannot be printed.
Arts rep Liz van Assem said
later, "Council had to go in
camera at the first meeting because allegations were being
brought forward and people's
reputations have to be protected."
According to the agenda,
however, council then discussed
whether to remove the
Ombudsperson, Yuri Fulmer,
from office, based on unspecified
allegations.
As well, whether Council
would deal with the situation
that night or refer it to a special
committee was discussed.
After about an hour of deliberation the press and some involved parties were readmitted
into chambers.
Council had decided to move
"... that a special committee be
appointed to investigate allegations regarding the
Ombudsperson.
Specifically, the committee
is to investigate whether these
allegations provide cause for his
removal from the office of
Ombudsperson."
Bureaucratic ban
on information
Council then debated how
the committee was going to be
chosen, and more motions were
put forward, and amendments
to amendments to amendments
were also voted upon.
Finally, how the special committee was going to be formed
was voted upon and passed.
The committee would be
composed of five council members picked by council.
Council then went back in
camera to pick the committee.
How tiie committee members were picked is not known
because this was done behind
closed doors.
When the press was readmitted, the committee was found
to be composed of five men, with
Derek Miller—Board of Governors rep, AMS researcher (which
allows him access to in camera
proceedings but not the right to
vote) and regularly the Op/Ed
editor of The Campus Times—as
the chair ofthe committee.
The other members of the
committee were Russ Brewer,
Forestry rep; Albert Chang,
Education rep; Scott Hayward,
Grad Studies rep; and Rick
Paisley, Nursing rep.
Students kept in dark about
allegations against ombuds
The motion to impeach
Fulmer was brought forth by
Bernard LaRochelle and John
Short, both former caseworkers
ofthe Ombudsoffice who resigned
shortly after Fulmer's appoint
ment to office in October.
LaRochelle could not comment on the nature ofthe allegations.
When asked what he thought
of the proceedings, LaRochelle
expressed hope for justice.
Media black-out
This past weekend the committee heard presentations by
past and present Ombudsoffice
caseworkers, AMS council
members and Yuri Fulmer.
Again, these proceedings
were closed to the press, the
student membership and the rest
of council.
Ostensibly, this was to ensure the anonymity of some of
the presenters because of the
nature ofthe allegations.
After some deliberation, the
committee decided on Monday to
recommend to council that
Fulmer not be removed from office.
Unadvertised emergency
student council meeting
This recommendation was
brought forth at an emergency
council meeting held yesterday.
"For an emergency meeting
of student council to be held, the
councillors have to be notified 24
hours in advance. I was contacted
on Tuesday because Tm a rep,
but students in general didn't
know about it because it was
unadvertised," Van Assem said.
Again, all discussion regarding this issue occurred in
camera.
Accordingto Van Assem, "We
had to go in camera this time
because some presenters at the
committee hearings were promised anonymity."
Councillors asked to vote
in ignorance
Following the presentation
of chair Derek Miller, council readmitted non-council members
for the final vote on whether
Fulmer should be reaffirmed as
AMS Ombudsperson.
Members of council were
asked to vote on faith, and assume that the committee of five
acted responsibly.
The vote passed without
any No votes and only four
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Striking VCC faculty furious with government
by Frances Foran
Itis an unusual strike scenario
that finds both negotiating parties
walking picket lines together.
The college board and faculty
of the Langara campus of
Vancouver Community College are
united in the opinion thatthe school
needs immediate financial relief.
But faculty association president Lawrence Warren said that
they are atthe mercy of the government to meet their demand. Failing that, the college board may be
forced to make internal cutbacks.
"I suppose slashing of programs will happen, if the college
board feels driven to do it. If the
government won't fund [college]
programs, we wont offer them any
more.
The striking Langara college
faculty have also been joined this
past week on the picket lines by
students and support staff. All
agree that Langara needs more
funding.
But their solidarity may be
useless when it is met with the
unanimous agreement in several
governmental ministries. There is
no money to bail out Langara, advanced education minister Tom
Perry said, after meeting with the
finance minister Glen Clark earlier this week.
375 instructors at the Langara
campus of VCC walked out one
week ago, after refusing the
college's contract that offered the
instructors no wage increase for
two years.
The instructors' five year contract which expired last March left
the instructors the lowest paid college teachers in the province,
earning an average of $4,000 less
than equally qualified high school
teachers.
Perry said that while he didn't
have any money for the striking
instructors, he had lots of sympathy to give.
"We're sympathetic with
Langara faculty but weVe got a
$2.3 billion deficit Any money we
borrow we have just got to pay
back. We cant just pull money out
of a hat
"If I can get any new borrowed
money Fd rather direct it to additional faculty to teach more students. If I have to choose between
increasing salaries or hiring new
faculty Td rather do the latter."
Adding that his ministry must
compete with other social services
like health care, Perry said, "It is
not in my power to correct all inequities of society."
Perry saidlast week that more
money for the faculty might be
found if Langara could increase its
enrollment. But instructors walking the picket lines yesterday complained that the conditions are already unhealthy, dangerous, and
nearly impossible to work in.
Worn out lab equipment is
taped together, classes are full to
capacity, and with 6,200 students,
the school accommodates twice the
number students it is intended to.
Dave Mitton, a math teacher
said, There are things like fire
marshall regulations about how
many students we can have in a
class and we are breaking some
already. I shudder to think about
the number of students in the hallway at class change times. It is
dangerous. And Perry wants us to
take more? It is truly insulting."
Langara students will be
holding a rally today at the
Vancouver Art Gallery to protest
government funding cutbacks to
post-secondary education.
Strangway talks about tuition, monster
classes and Maclean's magazine
Interview by Lucho van Isschot
Ubyssey: Maclean's writes, The
post-secondary educational system
is in a crisis far more profound
than millions of Canadians realize, and it is in a downward spiral
that will be difficult to break." Do
you believe this is true and, if so,
how do you think that trend can be
broken?
Strangway: I dont know how to
break the trend. From the province of British Columbia's perspective, we have the lowest participation rate in university programs of any province in Canada.
Meanwhile, the demand for post-
secondary education is rising.
In 1986 we had about 15,000
applications a year for our 6,000
places. Today we have almost
30,000 applications for more or less
the same number of places.
Ubyssey: Why do think that the
demand for post-secondary education is rising?
Strangway: I think the demand
is rising because we're in an increasingly complex world—a world
ofinstantcommunications,aworld
of globalization. We are in a world
where people want to have a broad
base of education so that they can
be quite flexible looking towards
the future.
Ubyssey: Do you think that universities are successful in training
people for that complicated world,
for getting a job in that world?
Strangway: I'm not sure I know
the answer to that question. If you
are asking, are we totally successful, the answer is obviously no. We
should be doing better and I think
all of us are trying to do better.
Ubyssey: Government funding of
post-secondary education in
Canada, according to Maclean's, is
about one third of thatin the United
States. Andfundingin Canada has
dropped 13 per cent in the last 15
years. Do you believe this is a problem? Do you think government has
a greater responsibility to post-
secondary education?
Strangway: Well, thafs a tough
question. The fact ofthe matter is
that funding has been decreasing.
We cannot just keep jamming more
and more students in and not get
the infrastructure, the faculty and
the support staff to deal with it.
It's a tough question. I understand
the problem the government has
is, where is the money going to
come from?
Ubyssey: UBC was ranked fourth
overall amongst universities with
a major commitment to Ph.d. programs or research. Amongst the
criteria used by Maclean's was
average class size for third and
fourth year, and UBC was ranked
13th in that category. Do you feel
that our undergraduate programs
are having to suffer as we try to
raise and maintain standards at
the graduate level?
Strangway: No, I dont see that. A
lot of people seem to think there is
a conflict between these things,
but I think that if we can draw in
new and interesting faculty, doing
new and different things, then that
adds a lot of richness to the undergraduate curriculum. I see them
as reinforcing one another, not as
taking away from one another.
Ubyssey: One unfortunate example that I am aware of is that of
a first-year history course. Last
year, History 125, which is a prerequisite for many programs, was
changed from about twelve sections
to two sections. There are now 300
people in course sections that used
to have only 30 people in each. I am
wondering what you think of that,
and do you know if it is happening
in other departments?
Strangway: Ifs happening in every department. And ifs not just
happening at UBC, ifs happening
all across the country. And ifs not
just because of pressures at the
graduate level... but ifs not just
whether we have large classes, it's
about whether we have support
structures such as seminars and
working sessions that back up the
large classes.
Ubyssey: You talk about bringing
in new and interesting faculty
members, but I'm wondering
whether there have been specific
initiatives to bring in those people.
It seems that UBC is spending its
money more on physical infrastructure and less so on people.
Strangway: A lot of people say
that, but what you have to understand, and what doesn't seem to be
well understood is that capital
dollars can be spent, and spent
once. If you get money to build a
building, you can build one, but
there is no point in trying to put
the same money into an operating
grant, because once you've spent
the money, you've spent it, and ifs
gone. I think people have to understand the difference between
capital dollars and operating dollars—which you need on a recurring basis.
Ubyssey: Where do operating dollars come from?
Strangway: The true operating
budget of the university is about
$350 million a year. About 80 per
cent of that comes from provincial
grants and about 17 per cent comes
from student tuition.
Ubyssey: Is there any kind of ceiling on the percentage ofthe budget
the student tuition can cover?
Strangway: No. Other than what
is responsible and reasonable,
there are no controls on that in BC.
Ubyssey: Will tuition at UBC go
up next year, and is the prediction
of 18 per cent accurate?
Strangway: Well, people seem to
have missed the point. That decision was made one year ago. And
tuition probably will go up something like 18 per cent. But thafs
not a new decision, thafs an old
decision. It was a Board decision
made two years ago that got suspended for a year because the
province asked us to suspend it for
a year. The approval ofthe Board
to suspend tuition increases for
one year was strictly that
There's an issue as far as the
students are concerned, I accept
that, but there are no new decisions that have to be made. Tuition
will go up relative to this year by
that amount Thafs a decision that
has already been made.
Ubyssey: Dontyou think students
should be concerned about this?
Strangway: Of course they should
be concerned. If I were a student I
would be very concerned about it.
I guess the other side ofthe coin is,
we'd like to be able to continue
putting power in the rooms, and
you know howbadly rundown some
of our facilities are. There are two
sides to that. Ifs a tough one and I
have a lot of sympathy for the
students on this one.
Ubyssey: Lefs talk about gender
parity for a moment. It says in
Maclean's that in 1990,98 per cent
of full-time engineering profs were
men, and that 25 per cent of engineering schools in Canada had no
women professors at all. You must
see this as a problem. What is UBC
doing to resolve it?
Strangway: If s goi ng to take time.
Ifs not something that is going to
be resolved immediately. What is
happening is that people in our
faculty are trying to encourage
women to go into engineering...
Our enrollment of women in engineering has gone up substantially,
although we still aren't where we
ought to be. But we've gone from
about 15 per cent in the entering
class to something like 25 per cent
last year. Or maybe it was 22 per
cent—I've forgotten the precise
number. Ihe change has to be made
at the entry level, in the first year.
Ubyssey: Do you believe in affirmative action?
Strangway: I believe in affirmative action, with some constraints
on* it. I think you have to have
affirmative action in a sense, but
in such a way that you are sensitive
to the backlash that goes along
with too strong an affirmative action policy.
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November 20,1992
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by Sara Martin
Tonight's show is going to be smokin!" promised Jean Ghomeshie, one of
the four talents of Moxy Fruvous before their Saturday night show at the
Town Pump.
"Even though I hate smoke, its going to be a smokin show."
MUSIC
Moxy Fruvous
November 14
The Town Pump
Cigarette smoke is not the only thing these politically conscious
Torontonians hold strong opinions about. During their lively stage show, the
environment was prioritized, Pat Buchanan was slandered and the constitution was criticized. The angst-laden lyrics of these troubled Generation Xers
focus on the hypocrisy in the guilt-cleansing actions of Canadians, such as decorating our curbs with glass-filled blue boxes.
Although many of their songs reveal an underlying political agenda to
awaken apathetic fellow Canadians to political awareness, the group's youthful appreciation oflife is not lost beneath their heavy Noam Chomsky-inspired
search for truth and social change.
If Moxy Fruvous alienated some of its listeners with their radical political
stance, the audience was again united when the group, appealing to the general knowledge of pop culture, presented a capella renditions ofthe themes to
Spiderman and Roadrunner.
They received an enthusiastic response when performing their musical
version of Dr. Seuss's "Green eggs and ham." The King of Spain"—a fairytale
tune based on the Prince and the Pauper—also achieved high audience fervor.
The Fruvous ensemble found it easier to rouse a common childhood memory
than a political conscience.
Using wireless mikes, the four Fruvous members were unrestricted in
their use ofthe stage. Each song is a self-contained play, theatrically acted out
and harmoniously executed.
Was Jean right in speculating that the audience ofthe sold out show primarily consisted of "a bunch of apolitical neohippies"?
Politicized or not, the crowd was thoroughly entertained by the dynamic
quartet and will have opportunity to see them again as they end their
Canadian tour on CBC television Friday, December 4th at ten pm.
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Dream-on Nirvana—
Sugar's noise is out
making skull lumps
have been the kick I took to the
head.
Don't get me wrong, I had a
great time, and I absolutely worship Bob Mould. It's just that, well,
after a while, I couldn't tell the
songs apart.
Sorry Bob.
But then again, there were
moments of glory, when you could
hear Mould's tuneful axe-grinding
rise above the manic fuzz. For those
moments alone, it was worth it.
Don't miss the opportunity to
see Sugar in concert on their next
visit to Vancouver—they take
thrash rock to heights that Nirvana
and Soundgarden can only dream
of.
The concert began with solid
performances by both The
Throwing Muses and by British
upstarts The Boo Radleys. Look for
both of these bands to headline
tours in the very near future.
by Lucho van Isschot
Noise, noise, noise, beautiful,
wondrous, cascading noise filled the
Commodore last night.
MUSIC
Sugar, The Throwing Muses,
The Boo Radleys
November 18
Commodore Ballroom
Sugar, fronted by post-punk
guitar legend Bob Mould, did not
waste a single moment of time during their grueling 100 minute set.
From the get-go, to the end of
the second encore, Sugar blasted its
way through song after song after
relentless song, barely pausing four
beats between each.
Few in the audience, myself
included, could keep up with the
pace. Maybe that was the problem.
After a while my skull started
to throb. It might have been the
music. But then again, it might
Dark comedy Loot
pillages "norms"
by Erie Silverton
Loot is a twisted, ludicrous, warped dark comedy written by Joe
Orton.
Be careful!
Loot is definitely not geared towards those who uphold respect for the
catholic church, law enforcement, traditional sexual behaviors and, we
must not forget, the dead.
THEATRE
Loot
Dorothy Somerset Studio
to November 21
The play takes place in a London parlor with a corpse in a closed coffin at center stage.
The deceased is being mourned over by her husband and son, a young
bank robber. The son and his cohort, who works at the local funeral home,
are attempting to evade the law and opt to hide the loot in the coffin.
However, the body must be removed in order to stash the stolen money.
The plot thickens when the dead woman's nurse and crooked police inspector (or should I say water board inspector) get involved in the crimes ofthe
two young men. Anything is apt to happen.
UBCs student production of Loot, directed by Dennis Garahum, has
had some difficulties. During one ofthe initial performances, approximately half of the audience left during intermission.
However, the actors and others involved have managed to pull things
together resulting with a much stronger presentation.
For those who have the time, or those who need a temporary escape
from their tedious scholastic obligations, I recommend going to see Loot. It
is bound to boost your spirits, and make one realize that their life is not as
odd as it could be.
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November 20,1992 by Steve Chow
The Boo Radleys are the new alternative
pop darlings ofthe UK, according to NME,
Melody Maker and other critics. Yours truly
decided to find out for himself what the big
buzz is with the band that is all the rage across
the water.
While Sice, the vocalist, Tim Brown, the
bassist, and Rob Cieka, the drummer, were in
hysterics over Tom & Jeny in their Vancouver
hotel room, I spoke with guitarist Martin Carr
through the din ("Tom & Jerry? Oh yeah, very
funny indeed").
INTERVIEW
Martin Carr
The Boo Radleys	
A few hours before the Boo Radleys
opened for Sugar at the Commodore on a
Wednesday night bill which also featured the
Throwing Muses, I learned that Martin Can's
favourite things include music, books, sword-
fish steak, big white sweaters, his girlfriend
and Marlboro cigarettes. His favourite ABBA
songs are Super Trooper and Money,
Money, Money.
The Boo Radleys have been on
tour across North America for six
weeks now, promoting their Columbia
Records debut and first full-length
CD, Everything's Alright Forever.
"We dont try and reproduce the
album on stage," says Carr. "We used
to do that but it wasn't very enjoyable
for the audience 'cos we just used to
worry about it too much.
"I think we were pretty boring,
actually, live. But now we just... Ifs
just going to be bloody loud."
Such a description belies the
brilliance of Everything's Alright
Forever, an intense array of sounds
and styles with shades ofthe Cure,
Lush, Jane's Addiction and the Jesus
and Mary Chain. The songs integrate
Sice's understated yet steady vocals
and the band's unpredictable, eclectic
accents in a captivating mix.
The moody atmosphere of
"Spaniard" gives way to the rolling
rhythm of "I Feel Nothing" and the
melodies of "Memory Babe" and "Song
for the Morning to Sing," only to
sweetly pulverized by the force of
"Does This HurtT and
Towards the Light."
Flamenco and flugelhorn
(of all things) are mingled with the grunge
and the groove.
This is
unpretenti
pop sensi	
bility
th
impressive
I very charm-
'ing substance.
"When we actually started the
band, we were just interested in being
a sort of cross between the Byrds,
Dinosaur Jr. and My Bloody
Valentine. Now, if s just that we get
bored really easily so we're always
looking for new kinds of music."
Boredom has led to the Beach
Boys, John Coltrane, Public Enemy,
Miles Davis and the Human League
occupying the Top-5 on the Boo
playlist. "Thafs what we're listening
to now and thafs what the next
album is all going to be about We just
dont like repeating ourselves...
there's no point in making an album
with one sound and trying to spread it
across 14 tracks."
The Boo Radleys are of that
select group of truly original bands to
emerge every decade or so from
Liverpool—the same city which
spawned the Beatles and Echo and
the Bunnymen—and they know it.
"The bands in the past three or
four years have all been offering nothing new, really—just rehashed sixties
stuff. We wanted to go do something
different. We wanted to get out of
Liverpool. Ifs at the low point of all
time at the moment*
Carr and Sice met at age ten,
knowing then that they would someday be in a band. But it wasn't until
Tim Brown joined them in their late
teens that the band's vision started to
form.
"He could already play which
was quite an advantage. We hadn't
actually thought
about learning 1
play anything,
which is
when1
iportant
you're
_ to be in a
band."
With all the critical
accolades being thrown
their feet by the UK
music press, Carr is confi-
in the Boos* ability to add
new sounds and influences to
ir already eccentric sound.
"Thafs what every band should
try to be, really. Thafs tiie problem
with a lot of British bands—they just
seem to be of no ambition whatsoever,
they just seem to be happy to be a certain sound.
"There are a lot of guitar bands
in Britain now that became well
known for a certain sound and they're
just happy to stay with their sound or
they're too scared to change it in case
they lose their popularity, which is not
what music is about at all."
Do the diverse sounds crafted by
these Liverpool lads make them musical sophisticates?
"No, we've got the ideas but we
wouldnt call ourselves musicians,
really. Sort of in the way we couldn't
play anyone else's music—we're not
great; musicians."
Note the parallel between the
formative years ofthe Boos and those
of U2: four young men who couldnt
play their instruments, much less
anybody else's music, thus forced to
compose their own material.
When presented with the comparison, Carr stated, "Thafs what we
do."
So are the Boo Radleys the sec
ond coming of U2?
"No! Please, no! Oh god, thaf d be terrible."
"Well probably get incredibly famous, go
back to our roots, and split up," he says with a
throw-away laugh.
The Canadian response to the tour has been
promising, but despite his unending quest for
record stores on the continent, Carr admits his
knowledge ofthe Canadian music scene is insubstantial. "We were trying to think of Canadian
bands earlier today and we couldnt think of any."
What about Gordon Ldghtfoot?
"Is he Canadian? I didnt know that"
How about Skinny Puppy?
"I didnt know they were Canadian. They're
a good band."
What of Bryan Adams, that Canadian
noise-monger?
"WeVe had to live with him ... He's been
number one for the past twelve [sic] years in
Britain," Carr states as though sick ofthe plague.
"I hate him."
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November 20,1992
THE UBYSSEY/5 Increasing the price of an
inferior product
UBCs administration has not demonstrated that a
17.9 per cent tuition increase is necessary for the foil of
1993.
Given BCs current economic sitntation, it would be
understandable—though not laudable—if the university
wanted to increase tuitions by eight per cent, the projected rate of inflation from the fall of 1991, when fees
were last hiked, to next fall. They could make the argu-
mentthat students shouldhelpinkeepingfundinglevels
stable, after inflation.
For UBC to ask for an extra ten per cent on top of
this, however, is greedy.
The very well-paidadministratore and professors on
this campus may not understand this, but they should
remember that students, andyoungpeople in particular,
are hard hit by the current recession. Youth unemployment rates are the highest in years and many students
are having a more difficult time than ever making ends
meet.
If the university were discussing a freeze in salaries
for administrators and professors, or other cost-cutting
measures which do not affect students directly, their
plea for 18 per cent could be taken more seriously.
However, the only answer they have offered to UBCs
financial woes is to ask the people who can least afford it
to pay mors.
The increase in fees will be directed, we are told, to
student aid programs, an increase in the general operating budget and a teaching and learning enhancement
fund.
Of course, they could just not increase tuition by the
amount needed to increase funding for student aid, and
thus help al) students and prevent some from being
forced to ask for aid, but that would be too sensible and
logical.
The university hasnt given concrete plans for what
will be increased in the general operating budget Will
the money be used to increase the budgets for UBCs
libraries or to hire more professors to decrease class
sizes? Or will the money be used to hire an extra
groundskeeper or two at David Strangway's house?
A similar question comes to mind regarding the
teaching fund. Unless a tuition increase to pay for it is
shown to better address the needs of undergraduate
students, UBC's administration should not expect them
to support paying higher tuitions.
If the administration expects UBC students to support a modest tuition increase, it will have to involve
students in the decision making process. We should be
involved through consultation in deciding what the financial priorities of this university should be. We should
be partners, and not adversaries, in the process of deciding whether or not tuitions should be increased.
UBC students may have an ally in this fight, depending on what the New Democrats decide to do. We
drawyour attention to thehandy coupon we have prepared
for our readers on this page.
Last fall, the government froze tuitions at ail BC
colleges and universities. Although another freeze may
be too much to ask, Advanced Education Minister Tom
Perry has the power to hold a tuition increase to a
reasonable level.
Dr. Perry, who has been maki ng noises as oflate that
tuition increases may be all right, needs a gentle reminder
that the same students that voted to help put his party
in power can change their minds at the next election.
Fill out the form, cut it out, fold it in half, staple it
and mail it The address is printed out for you.
Dr. Perry needs a gentle -reminder from student-
voters who could decide not to support the NDP in the
next election.
the Ubyssey
November 20,1992
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It was hell. Sheer hell. And Lucho van Isschot did not like it But what
could he do? Yukie Kurahashi and Miranda Alldritt had combined
forces and killed Superman, Lucho's idol. Little did anyone know that
upon hearing the news, Rick Hiebert and Steve Chow immediately
began a lawsuit. 'Libellous statements were written by Doug Ferris,*
they accused. "Slanderous things were said by Sam Green," they
charged. Paula Wellings and Paul Dayson disagreed. The two believed
that Superman was not dead and that everyone (except Helen
WiHoughby-Price) was lying. However, Philippe Tiemey showed them
his copy of the comic. Sara Martin said that she never believes what she
reads, and, to her, Superman is still alive and well, and living in Gage.
"Place Vanier!" shouted Brian Lea But they were both wrong. Frances
Foran proved this. She took a survey in the office. And three people out
of three agreed: Martin Chester, Liz Van Assum, and Eric Silver-ton all
said he was Hvingin Totem Park. Which is true. Thafs where Daniel PK
Mosquin lives, and he's only afraid of Kiyptonite.
Editors
Paula WaMnC* • Lucho van Isschot • Yukie Kurahashi •
Sam Green • Frances Foran
Dr. Tom Perry
Minister of Advanced Education,
Training and Technology
Dear Dr. Perry,
I am a student at the University of British Columbia.
I will have a hard time paying the proposed 18 per cent tuition increase that the UBC Board
of Governors is considering for next fall.
I ask that you, at the very least, hold UBC's tuition increase for next year to the annual rate
of inflation.
In your party's election platform last fall, you and the other New Democratic Party candidates promised to make Post-secondary education "a higher priority" in this province. Please keep to
your promise.
Signed.
Name_
Faculty and Year_
I will remember what you and your government do regarding my tuition fees when I
decide how to vote in the next provincial election.
Dr. Tom Perry
Legislative
Buildings
Victoria B.C.
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Slimy pigdogs!
I walked down to Wreck
Beach today and saw a guy
masturbating.
It wasn't that I acridently
disturbed the guy's private moment—Imeanamanlookedme
in the eye and pulled on his
shiong.
It's not the first time that
IVe gone down to Ihe beach,
hoping for some solitude and
respite from school, and ending
up furious and scared because
some selfish, piggish, thoughtless, sexually warped man has
chosen me. as the target of his
weirdness.
The first time something
happened was this time of year,
same place—west cf Spanish
Banks, right where the signs
begin to warn that there may be
naked people around. My immediate thought was, sure,
maybe in the summer, but itfs
November now.andbalmy.but
surely no one will be naked now
—and instantly saw a naked
man approaching me.
I was slightly more naive
then andhoped that he was just
being friendly: you know, a benign naked man, simply walking beside me, chatting about
the weather—he was from
Calgary (he said), so much
warmer here, etc. etc. Gradually it dawned on me that his
hands were not unoccupied
while we were talking: without
staring I realized he was mas-
turiaating.ImunJbledsomethirig
about "this being my path" and
bushwhacked straight up the
thickly forested bank underneath that park halfway up
Marine Drive hill.
Today I went down the
[path near the Anthropology
Museum :itwas2:30,brightand
sunny. I knew there was a
chance some fucking weirdo
wouldbe there, but I was hoping
that I wouldnt be alone and
therefore not so vulnerable.
Wouldntyouknow—I got there
just as the only couple around
were leaving.
I sat on a log right beside
the staire and sussed out the
situation. One creepy looking
guyinamacjackettomyleft—
but clothed; a good sign. And to
my right; a bad sign: a naked
torso. Couldn't see anythingelse
from where I—and he—sat I
hoped he was just enjoying the
view but, just in case, I got my
stuff prepared for a quick exit
I only got to ei\joy the sun
and solitude for about a minute
before Mr. Torso got up and
started walking toward me, re-
vealingthathe was actually Mr.
Totally Nude. With, I couldnt
help noticing, an erection. Another bad sign. I thought maybe
he'd just walk past me, or something, but I felt more and more
UTK-uuifortableasheapproBched
quite close in front of me and so
I grabbed my bag and headed
for the stairs. Ihad gone up half
a dozen or so when I turned
around—and looked straight
into his eyes which were focused on me as he jerked off
Slimy pigdog! I get so furious! What a complete invasion
of my space, my life—what a
nasty way to use the power of
being male. This creep was
counting on the fact that he is
bigger than me (as most males
arebiggerthanmostfemales)to
intimidate me from responding
to his idiotic gestures. Guys, if a
friend or lover has ever told you
this, dont think this is an isolated response: I felt like shooting the bastard's dick off.
I came back to the campus
and wandered around, dazed,
for awhile, looking at every man
who crossed my path and wondering: Would jjpu. masturbate
in frontcrfawrmencn the beach?
Would -fflu rape someone if you
knew you wouldnt get caught?
I looked at the women who
crossed my path and wondered
if they thought about the possi-
bifitythattherewerew***ardoea]l
around them, if they thought
about the power and abuse of it
and vulnerability andifthey got
as FURIOUS about it as I do...
rmnata"man-hater",and
I dont want to turn into one. I
dont think every man around
me is a potential rapist But
men have to get involved with
acknowledging and discouraging thte land ofbullshitabuse of
power this isnt a conspiracy
theory or fabrication designed
to get your jobs or your sympathy. Abuse of women by men
wont stop if men dont understand how it works, how vulnerable we feel mostof the lime,
andhowmuchwomenneedmen
to be our allies in keeping these
ASSHOLES from affecting our
lives. And women—dont go to
Wreck Beach alone.
Christine Gaudet
Arts 4
Caped crusader
of academic
excellence
While I was looking
through the lovely $2500 4-
page leaflet that the Ubyssey
managed to put out on Friday, November 6, 1992. I
happened upon yet another
article (article?) about the
Arab-Israeli conflict (or
should i say the Israeli-Arab
conflict). It wasn't hard to
see as there were only four
articles to happen upon. The
perspective written by Adam
Rabiner have more concise
arguments and FACTS
about the conflict. At the end
of this wonderful display of
argumentative ability,
knowledge, and debating
skill, he exclaims These are
the facts! Check them out.
[Facts and quotes taken from
the World Book Encyc. and
the Near East Report]."
Wow, isn't that amaz
ing! I didnt think that anyone had the balls or was
stupid enough to get the
FACTS from the World Book
Encyclopedia anymore. I
don't know about you, but I
stopped citing the ol' World
Book as a prime source in
grade eight! Do you use this
plethora of knowledge for all
your academic works, Mr.
Rabiner? I guess your profs
have never thought of
checki ng your essays against
the famous red book of grade
eight social studies.
As far as I know U.B.C.
has the second largest library in Canada, twenty-
fifth on the continent, with
over three million items in
circulation. It didnt rate in
the top 20 university libraries in Maclean's latest assessment only because criteria used, % of operating
expense, etc. I don't know if
you've ever walked through
the main stacks, but there is
a lot of books in there, and
there are plenty more libraries at U.B.C.. Tm sure
that there has been a book or
two written on the Arab-Israeli conflict. You should
try reading one Mr. Rabiner,
it may even be an enlightening experience. Just to make
it easier for you, the call
number for Arab-Israeli relations is DS 119.7
I hope that the future of
the university, the strive for
academic excellence, and the
pursuit of knowledge (why
the university should exist
in the first place) has more
in store for it than those who
would blindly turn to such a
pitiful source. We are all
trying to join the academic
elite of the country, aren't
we? What would your English 100 prof say?
Jason Saunderson
Physics 3
6/THE UBYSSEY
November 20,1992 Support for the
llamoniacally
challenged
I wish to complain, in the strongest possible terms, about the fallacious article concerning the supposed
ptighttf"2mbabweanIJamas"in*y>our
issue of Tuesday last Mr Hiebert?s
sensationalized interpretation of the
situation in Africa was both inaccurate
and slanderous, and undermined the
hard work that activists have been
eking in recent years.
W may begin at the beginning.-1
stnxigiy object to Mr Hieberfsflagrant
use of Ihe term llama. This moniker is
a stereotypical pejorative that serves
only to maintain the rift that exists
between these victims of speciesism
and the narrow minded. In fiiture, we
would appreciate the use ofthe term
"Andean-African", or alternatively,
llamoniacally challenged." Wake up
and smell the nineties.
Mr. Hiebert contends that
Andean-Africans suffer endless teasing and discrimination at the hands of
the animals native to the African savannah, and thus infers that they are
not accepted as part of everyday
grassland society. This could not be
further from the truth, as the World
Wildlife Fund affirmitive-action programs are now in place and working
swimmingly. Antelopes are now required to share migratory and grazing
areas with Andean-Africans and lion
prides, in accordance -with tough new
predator quotas, are required to hunt
and eat at least two every week. These
measuresaregoingalcrigwaytowards
the realization of tiie Zimbabwean
Andean-African's dream of a home on
the veldt
Andfii-ially-eveiybodykrwwsthat
Kevin Phillips Bong's name is not hyphenated and that he does not work at
the 'Python Institute of llama Study
and Silly Walks'; he writes a roving
correspondence piece for The 432. Go
steal your own pseudonym, ya pansy!
Love and Hugs
Soger Watts
External VP
SUS
Long live "family
values"
The editorial in the November 3
issue of the Ubyssey criticizes what is
known as "traditional family values".
The arguments presented are rather
weak to say the least
The editor laments the reality
that two out of every three marriages
end in divorce, one in six Canadian
women are abused by their partner,
andinmany othertragedies. However,
it seems tome that these are the result
of people rejecting the so called traditional family values" that you are
speaking out against
You also say that "morals and
values have been shaped to justify an
economic unit which is designed to
uphold(white)malepowerinsocie1yat
large." It seems as though we've all
been duped by this WASP creation. I
foil to see the reasoning behind this
argument The nudear family is common maD cultures and raoes, whether
it be in Europe, Asia, or Africa.
Studies have shown that crime
rates are much higher and literacy
rates much lower for individuals who
are not raised in a traditional -fonuly
setting. Children benefit more from
having a loving mother AND father
who are therefor them. The traditional
&m3ymaynctbeperfect(and nothing
on this earth is); nevertheless, it is
superior to the other alternatives.
Single parent families, extended
families; they are a reality of this society and rejecting than would be a
tragic mistake. Rejecting traditional
family values would be an even graver
mistake.
Gavin Chin
Commerce 4
A Letter of
Solidarity
We are The Cord, and we, as
Bo Jackson might say, know
newspaper shutdowns. In March
of 1991, the WLU Students' Union
shut down The Cord when the paper reprinted a portion of a Muse
article (The Gay Man's Guide to
Safe Erotic Sex).
So, as weVe said, we know
what it feels like to be attacked by
astudentgovernmentfor the crime
of being progressive. One of your
editors, Frances Foran, told us your
situation. The AMS, frats, and
Young Conservatives all attacking you at once—you people must
be doing a great job!
To all those 'people' attacking
the Ubyssey, we say this: you are
attacking freedom of speech, and
freedom of the press. These are
concepts that people have fought
(and died) for in countless revolutions.
Dont castigate the Ubyssey
for exercising this freedom of
speech. You should be congratulating them. Instead, you've decided that you have the right to
attack them, to try to cut their
funding. Your sanctimony make
us ill.
Now, back to the Ubyssey staff.
Have heart. If there'sanythingthat
The Cord can do to help out, we
will do it. We're sure that the rest
of CUP feels the same way.
Tell us how your referendum
fight is going. We are keenly interested in helping your paper fight
back, and kick the shit out of those
who would dare challenge the freedom ofthe press.
Sincerely (and freely) yours,
The Cord staff
Ecology is not a
religion
Mr. Mosquin's "Forest-killer's
forum" on October 2nd is one ofthe
all-too-frequent examples of the
misuse of terminology that pervades the forest-environment debate. You can kill a tree or a deer,
butitismuch harder to kill aforest
ecosystem. Fire, insects, disease,
wind, landslide and timber harvesting alter the structure, species
composition and functioning of
forest ecosystems, but very rarely
do they kill all living organisms. If
all trees are removed these disturbances may convert the forest
ecosystem into a shrub or herb-
dominated ecosystem until trees
reinvade and reestablish forest
conditions. However, there is still
an ecosystem.
Ecology, a science, does not
provide a value system and is
therefore not a paradigm in which
we can develop sustainable resource use. "Green religion" also
fails to provide a basis for a sustainable relationship between humans and their environment, although it may contribute ethical
and moral standards. Sustained
resource management must be
based on environmentalism, which
is a movement which advocates
the responsible and sustainable
use of resources in a way that sustains both human communities and
the many values of our environment.
Unfortunately, environmentalism often gets confused with
both ecology and green religion.
Achieving a sustainable future
requires that we separate their
different contributions. Mr.
Mosquin's report smacked of green
religion and misused ecology. I
would invite him to take my course
in forest ecology and, with respect,
suggest that he pursue environmentalism rather than fundamental green religion. He will contribute more to his cause by so doing.
J.P. (Hamish) Kimmins
Professor of Forest Ecology
Sports not strong
point
Thank you for your detailed
coverage ofthe Men's and Women's
soccer play-off games (the Ubyssey,
Tuesday 10th November) played
last week-end. For teams that have
been beaten only once each this
season and are headed off for the
national championship (the men
vying for their fourth straight
championship), they probably deserved nothing more than six short
paragraphs and a combined total
of five errors in that short space.
For your information:
DUBC's winning goal in the
women's game was not scored by
Megan Blair; it was scored by
Nancy Ferguson.
2)Willie Cromack didnt score the
winning penalty, it was Craig
Chaisson.
3)For that matter, you got the order of the penalties wrong; UBC
scored before Jeff Hutton made
the save that won the game for
UBC.
4)Make up your mind about the
name of UVic's goalie. Is his name
Shel Brodsworth or Brodsgaard?
Were you thinking that getting it
right once in two tries was good
enough, or were you thinking that
UVic used two goalies?
5)Finally, "Meghan" Blair is spelt
Megan.
Query: Didyou cover the game
yourselves or did you get your information from the Province and
the Sun? As this campus' student
funded newspaper, your coverage
of campus news leaves much to be
desired. If you are going to pinch
your news from other papers, why
not steal from the Campus Times
- they seem to get it right!
Colin Pereira
CITR Sports.
T   ill   If al"i      ■■
T-snirtisni
I am writing in response to a
recent letter to the Ubyssey that took
issue with my T-shirt, which reads " I
used to be a White American, but I
gaveitupin the interest ofhumanity".
The author oftheletter,Jason Hayes,
makes a good point about racism. I do
notdisa^eewithhim.nordolwishto
make light of this serious problem.
However, I feel that Mr. Hayes did
not bother to get a full picture ofthe
information, and is reading far too
much into a simple T-shirt
First ofall, I purchased the shirt
from a White American. The shirt is
foraUE.-based political group called
Refuse & Resist. The group opposed
such atrocities such as racist police
brutality, legislated control of
Women's bodies, and US. military
intervention overseas. These atrocities are the result ofthe White American governing bodies. These are the
White Americans that the shirt's
message is targeting. The message is
obviously tongue-in-cheek, and was
notmeanttobetakenliterally.asMr.
Hayes does.
Mr. Hayes says that I claim a
"higherlevelofintellige*nce"by"dcing
something in the interest ofhumanity". Following his assumption that
the words on the shirt were coming
directiyandserioudyoutofmymouth,
that"something"mustbehavinggiven
up my existence as a White American. Were I indeed able to change my
race from that ofa White American to
that of a Chinese Canadian, my claim
would not be to a higher level of
intelligence, but to a higher level of
genetic flexibility.
However, what really disturbed
me was that Mr. Hayes makes a
series of judgements regarding my
character without even knowing me.
He didnotbother trying to talktome,
to ask me where my shirt was from of
why I choose to wear it He simply
decided what I thought based solely
upon my appearance. Prejudice of all
kinds can be avoided if people make
the effort to look beyond the surface
layer. All forms of prejudice, whether
they are based upon race, nationality,
sex, or T-shirt choice, are wrong and
harmful. The only way to overcome
this is through communication with
the human being behind the dark
skin, the American passport, or the
inflammatory clothing.
AdrienneLai
Artel
The University of British Columbia
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The "truth" about Canada's blacklist
by Rick Hiebert
I have a problem with a recently released book which explores
the anti-communism ofthe 1950s
in Canada. You may or may not
agree with me, but please hear me
out.
PRINT
The UnCanadians
by Len Scher
Lester Publishing
The UnCanadians: True Stories ofthe Blacklist Era by Toronto
writer Len Scher presents oral histories of 69 people affected by Canadian anti-communism. Most
stories concern the '40s and '50s,
although there are some accounts
ofthe effects of Quebec's anti-communist "Padlock Law" ofthe 30s.
Undeniably, the Soviets were
interested in Canada after World
War II. For example, Igor
Gouzenko, a former file clerk at
the Soviet embassy, defected in
1945 and said the Soviets were
trying to acquire classified information by using Canadian spies.
The public apprehension about
whether the Soviet Union had hostile intentions (a Gallup poll in the
1940s found 79 per cent of Canadians wanted communists banned
from the country) resulted,
unarguably, in suspicion of people
working in areas that could be of
interest to foreign powers wanting
to influence Canadians—the arts
(music, the infant CBC, the National Film Board), education, and
the trade union movement. In a
word, suspect people were entered
on a "blacklist."
People were fired from civil
service jobs, the RCMP spied on
members ofthe trade union movement, and orchestra musicians
whose only "crime" was subscribing to the wrong newspapers were
denied entry into the US. The CBC
became so skittish about communism that a Hollywood interview
program was taken off the air the
week after it aired a sketch poking fun of producers who would
rewrite scripts ofWesterns which
had cowboys riding "into a bright
red sunset."
The UnCanadians presents
the stories of people of the left
who were badly affected in the
era.
Scher, a former CBC radio
producer, is a skillful writer. The
accounts are interesting and persuasive.
I have no qualms with this.
These are stories from the left
that should have been told in the
1950s, so Canadians could have
judged whether the country did
really have a problem with communism, or whether their actions
were a great overreaction to a
small, at best, threat. These accounts merit consideration in appraising the period.
However, the book presents
only one side.
We are forewarned. Scher
dedicates the book to his father
Morris Scher, "one of the black-
listed."His father was permanently
denied Canadian citizenship and
entry into the US for having been
a former Polish resistance fighter,
for the Poles allied with the Rus
sians, and for having been held in
captivity in Siberia for several
years after the war.
I empathize with Scher, as his
father was treated wrongly. However, his father's experience has
had a profound effect on Seller's
book.
Too often, the people respon-
if I use an analogy. Assume there
was a book of oral history quoting
the accounts of Nazi sympathizers
in Canada during the 1930s.
Wouldnt you like to hear various
oral histories, so you could judge if
the opinions of the Nazi sympathizers were valid? I do not wish to
infer the people Scher spoke to
morseful for what they did. Perhaps we would read a piece of information or a comment that leads
us to question something else we
read earlier.
He'd have little to fear by citing contrary accounts. Judging by
the accounts he does include, it
would   be   fairly   clear   some
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sible for the blacklisting are
anonymous. Details which would
allow people to differ with the oral
accounts are sometimes not included. I will admit that it would
be fatuous to expect someone to
take in-depth notes for a future
interview while being sacked, but
I found myself wondering who was
responsible for some ofthe things
that happened, and what they
would say today.
My concern will be more clear
were a threat—only that I would
like to be able to better judge what
they say for myself.
The book would have been
more effective had Scher interviewed more than one of the
"blacklisters" (the one person is a
mid level RCMP clerk and gets
barely two of 271 pages) or quoted
some ofthe more cogent or alarmist anti-communist rants.
Perhaps he would have found
people who were genuinely re-
progressives were badly and unfairly treated. But why didn't he?
I can't say.
Seller's book should be read,
but in conjunction with other books
on the subject. Smearing innocent
people who happen to be left wing
is not right, but neither is refusing
to quote fairly accessible documents or people just because they
might cause people to question
what you are writing.
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