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The Ubyssey Jan 27, 1981

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. LXIII. No. 46
Vancouver, B.C. Tuesday, January 27,1981
Students jeer
at politicians
Alma Mater Society executive candidates faced a hostile, restless, noisy,
and generally disinterested crowd at Monday's public forum.
A handful of students gathered in the SUB conversation pit to hear candidates plod through two minute campaign speeches. The students
responded to the familiar campaign rhetoric of the candidates with minimal
applause and scattered laughter.
Chair of the meeting, Len Clarke (AMS director of finance), set the tone
of the forum by saying of the candidates, "If you ask them hard questions,
they leave; they run right out of here." A student responded with, "I
believe it."
Crowd interest grew, however, when the question period began. Mark
Sachs (arts 3) took the opportunity to vent his dissatisfaction with the performance of the current executive. Sachs directed his questions at vice-
president Marlea Haugen, who is running for president.
Sachs asked Haugen to defend issues ranging from the increase in tuition
fees to the high Pit beer prices.
"I certainly haven't seen much commitment from this council. You are
practically non-existent around here. I don't know what you do," he said.
Haugen claimed that Sachs was "jumping the gun" and proceeded to defend council's performance. When Sachs then began to attack council's
general lack of leadership, Clarke interrupted with, "Can we have a question please, instead of making a speech?"
Sachs said council members were always complaining of student apathy,
but were trying to shut up a genuinely concerned student bent on expressing
his views.
At this point, AMS administration director Craig Brooks, who was
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CITR to get autonomy and air play
The first step for CITR becoming
an autonomous, student run station
broadcasting on a low power FM
frequency has been taken.
CITR president Hilary Stout,
said Friday, "The technical portion
of our low power FM license has
been approved. We could, with a
lot of work, make it to the April
hearings of the Canadian radio
telecommunications commission
and be on the air in May."
Technical approval means that
the station has secured a frequency
on which to broadcast in the Vancouver area. The frequency is the
last one available for broadcasting.
But before CITR signs on for
its first broadcast day on lower
mainland air ways it first must convince the CRTC that it can meet
two qualifications.
The station must have a board of
directors which is entirely composed * of Canadians. Stout said this
qualification is the hardest of the
two to meet.
Under the current station
organization, the Alma Mater
Society, students council is the
board of directors of the station.
But under the AMS constitution
foreign students are permitted to sit
on council.
According to CITR vice-
president Diane Bodner, the station
will request that a separate society
be set up autonomous from council.
It would be composed of some
Canadian members of council, the
station and the student council executive.
The second qualification which
must be met under CRTC regulations is the promise of performance.
At the spring CRTC hearings in
Vancouver CITR must show its
programming will be a worthwhile
addition to what is currently offered. The station will also have to
assure a certain amount of community programming.
Stout has no doubts about the
value of CITR to the university
community and the community at
large. She sees the potential for
Vancouver to become more aware
and closer to the university and
more knowledgeable of what happens on the campus.
The university community off
campus  will  be  able to receive
CITR's broadcast without having a
cable hook-up to a FM receiver.
The history of CITR's bid to
receive a low power license stretches
back four years. And just 19 months ago the prospect of success was
bleak when the CRTC froze all
unused frequencies in the lower
See page 2: CANDIDATES
Persky preaches
loud fee protest
The best way to fight tuition fee
increases is to "complain as loudly
as I speak," social critic Stan Persky told an Alma Mater Society
sponsored tuition fee forum on Friday.
"I'm against tuition fee increases
for the same reasons students are,"
Persky, who is running for UBC
chancellor, told 30 people in SUB
"I hear people say it's getting to
be a luxury again to go to university. That's part of what we were
fighting for in the '60s."
UBC's administration has proposed increasing fees by 13 per cent
next year, while other colleges and
universities face even larger percentage increases.
Tuition fee committee member
Maureen Boyd, who chaired the
forum, said UBC chancellor J. V.
Clyne was unable to attend Friday's
meeting because of "a pressing
lunch engagement."
But Persky said that the
chancellor should take a more active interest in student affairs.
"The chancellor, the administration, and the faculty ought to have
some connection to the students?'
he said. At present the chancellor's
duties are largely ceremonial. "I
see the chancellor as being responsible to the students," Persky said.
Persky said inflation, accessiblity
and democracy in university affairs
were the three main issues facing
"If you don't have any say in
terms of fees what sort of say do
you have in the way they organize
Accessiblily is a problem, said
one student, because people are
already filtered out by the time they
get to university.
"It's hard to find people who the
fee increase will actually affect,"
she said. "Where are the people
from the east side of the city?"
"For every time you raise the fees
a few bucks you lose a certain
number of students," Persky said.
"You ought to be allowed to
come here for no fees," Persky
said. "The money could come from
general revenue."
"I feel that students should in
some way pay for their education,
perhaps later on when they can afford it," said Bill Maslechko, candidate for AMS administration
"I think that a 13 per cent increase is bullshit," said James
Hollis, AMS external affairs officer
candidate. But Hollis added that he
was not entirely against fee increases.
One possible solution to the problem, according to Persky, was to
have a students' union that would
negotiate with the provincial
government over fee increases.
Maslechko later criticized Persky
for turning the fee forum into "a
chancellorship election speech."
The next meeting of the tuition
fee committee will be Thursday at 6
It happened one morning
It was a busy Saturday morning
for 18-year-old Alexander MacLean
while most of Vancouver slept in.
First he allegedly broke into
UBC's animal care centre between
8:30 and 9 a.m., spread gasoline, lit
it and clambered over the front gate
to make his escape.
At 9:10 a.m. he lost control of his
car while driving away from UBC at
Crown Street and Marine Drive,
rolling it three times and transforming it into a twisted wreck.
White and shaken but sporting
only a few cuts, MacLean was
driven home by solicitous Vancou
ver city police officers. Later in the
day, the RCMP arrested him and
charged him with arson.
Damage from the fire amounted
to a few thousand dollars, animal
care coordinator John Gregg said
Gregg said his office suffered a
broken window, burned furniture
and burned carpet and ceiling tiles.
"I guess I'll have to work somewhere else for a while," he said.
It was the second act of vandalism aimed at the centre in a little
over three months. On Oct. 23, vandals cut through the fence around
the centre, spray painted slogans on
two buildings, slashed the tires of
two vans and pouring sugar into the
gas tank of one.
The centre has attempted to educate the public about research involving animals at UBC, Gregg
said, but he doubted it would be effective in stopping further attacks.
"I don't think anything we do
will affect the way these people
think.-They're very dedicated people and nothing will change that."
Gregg predicted a lull in such activity, however, because of Mac-
Lean's arrest. Page 2
Tuesday, January 27,1961
Candidates meet
From page 1
chairing the floor, cried, "Would
you ask a question or shut up."
A student in the crowd asked, "Is
that an example of the communication between the students and the
present AMS council?"
Only two other students took the
opportunity to ask questions of the.
The two representatives of the
Platypus International party, Kevin
Twa and Charles Menzies, generated laughter with their campaign
promises to implement free beer
nights twice a week, and to create a
Hawaiian holiday fund to send exhausted students to recuperate in
the sun. But generally the audience
was as disinterested as before.
The candidates for AMS president are Haugen and Twa; the AMS
vice-presidential candidates are
Menzies and Peter Mitchell.
Running for director of finance
are: Jane Loftus, Menzies, and Rob
The director of* administration
race has four candidates: Alexander
Fedyk, Stephen Henderson, Bill
Maslechko, and Twa.
Chris Fulker, James Hollis, and-
Twa are contesting the external affairs office.
Fedyk had no representation at
the meeting.
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Page 3
Students have another chance to make democracy work this week.
Starting with the advance poll Wednesday evening and then continuing for
two days during the day in many campus buildings, the student council executive elections will take place.
Get acquainted with the issues and the candidates. Even if it hurts read
this special Ubyssey feature and vote with your conscience.
Marlea Haugen offers students a
continuation of the policies pursued
by the current council if she is elected president.
Haugen, Alma Mater Society
vice-president, would like to see
renovations of SUB go ahead, more
services for students, improved
communication on campus, and
more concerts.
"I think the SUB building fund
should be continued," says Haugen. "Many students did not see
SUB that paid for it but they did
not complain."
Haugen feels today's students
should be generous and leave students in the future with even higher
quality buildings.
Haugen says in the long run she
does not want the AMS run like a
business, but the society must keep
a close eye on money.
"We should have a balanced
budget. But how we spend money
should not be like a business," she
Haugen wants students to lobby
for more housing. Students should
also go to Victoria, rather than the
UBC administration, to fight educational cutbacks.
"We are suffering from a lot of
cutbacks. We have to get together
with the administration to solve the
problem," Haugen says.
"What we are seeing in tuition increases is our administration's reaction to cutbacks from the government," Haugen adds.
Despite her awareness of university problems, Haugen sees no purpose for the National Union of Students or the British Columbia Stu
dents Federation, organizations
which are designed to lobby and influence government policy.
"Students have a long history on
this campus. We can pull out our
history books and show a long record of activism," Haugen says.
On women's issues Haugen has
very strong feelings. She says there
is tension between the women's
committee and women in professional faculties.
Rather than seeing women getting involved in the committee,
Haugen wants more women to get
involved in the AMS and other
campus organizations. "There are
only two women running for council. Women have to get their act together," Haugen says.
Haugen is not in favor of autonomy for The Ubyssey but is for
CITR if it will get them on the air
on a low power FM channel.
A full description of Kevin Twa's
platform may be read in the special
Platypus International section on
page three.
Vice President
An acceptance of tuition fee increases and strong beliefs in maintaining the $15 SUB building fee are
two of the more controversial opinions held by vice presidential candidate Peter Mitchell.
"I think the tuition fee increase
this year was reasonable but we
should keep an eye on tuition to
make sure that it doesn't increase
faster than inflation. Rather than
just looking at tuition fees there's a
whole pack of things that are affecting the availability of education.
"Bursaries and loans should be
increased and ceilings on bursaries
and loans should be increased and I
think that rent tax deduction should
be at least doubled, as well as the
B.C. government's own renter's tax
credit which I don't think students
in residence are eligible for and I
think they should be.
"If all these things are pursued I
think students could be saved a lot
more money than by a futile protest
about tuition fee increases that only
amounts to about $50 per student,"
Mitchell said.
Mitchell, a member of this year's
council, is also strongly in favor of
maintaining the $15 SUB building
"The first thing I would work to
maintain is the $15 building levy. I
think it's absolutely necessary and
that the students here are living on
facilities provided by past students
such as SUB, the War Memorial
gym, the winter sports center, the
aquatic center, the Whistler ski
cabin and even some of the housing.
"The university got its start
because of the student's efforts and
I think we owe the same consideration to future students.
"Furthermore, alumni contributions make up a significant amount
of funding given to groups and individuals in the form of travel
grants, bursaries and grants for projects and I think that if the students
were to remove the fee levy that
they have on themselves, a lot of
this funding would dry up," Mitchell said.
Mitchell wants to see students
regain access to such buildings as
the War Memorial gym for various
events because of the amount of
work past students put in to build
many of the buildings on campus.
He would also like to see increased housing facilities on campus.
"We've to provide more housing
for students on campus.  Having
1,000 people on the housing waiting
list is ridiculous. We've got to make
sure that students have a decent
standard of living in residence and
therefore try and get student housing covered by the landlord and tenant act.
"I'd like to work in conjunction
with the administration to build
new housing near campus, and if
they were to put up a new residence
I'd be perfectly happy to see them
build housing for faculty (as has
recently been suggested by the administration)."
Mitchell is also opposed to the
proposed four year engineering
program as he feels it would lower
the standard of education received
by engineering students as well as
place pressure on other faculties to
shorten programs for the sake of increased profits.
Mitchell, a member of council,
seemed to feel threatened by the
Platypus International party.
"I just hope that people aren't so
disillusioned with the AMS that
they take a vote to disband it, which
is what I think a vote for the platypi
would be," Mitchell said.
A full description of Charles
Menzies' platform may be read in
the special Platypus International
section on page three.
Jane Loftus has strongly attacked
the Alma Mater Society budget surplus but other than that has no real
ideas or plans about what she would
do as finance director.
Her campaign manager says
Loftus is running because she wants
student money to go toward services  rather  than  surpluses,  but
points out the post would be "good
experience for her."
Loftus is definitely climbing up in
the commerce world, and experience is the primary focus of her
campaign. She worked two years
for the Northwest Territories administration, and is currently in the
finance option of commerce 3.
Because Loftus was in Kingston
last week to represent UBC at the
intercollegiate business competition
she was represented in her interview
by campaign manager Leo Smyth.
But she did say in a short telephone interview Friday she wants
student council to spend more
money on intramural sports, and
would like more racquet ball and
squash facilities.
She also thinks council should
look into building some indoor tennis courts.
While Loftus has extensive financial experience, her knowledge of
AMS issues seems quite limited. She
says she is apolitical, has no views
on how the SUB building fee should
be spent, has no stance on tuition
fees and is uncertain about the ramifications of autonomy for campus
But Smyth says she will form
views once'she is in office. He
stresses her role as finance director
would be primarily administrative
rather than political.
"The AMS has a very large cash
flow and somebody's got to take
charge. Jane has the ability to deal
with, and knows the language of,
the financial community," Smyth
Smyth says Loftus has little difficulty with school and would have
a lot of time to devote to her post.
"Jane is a very academically minded young lady," he said.
Loftus wants to continue levying
the $15 SUB building fee. "The
idea is not to go about things as if
building monuments. It's trying to
provide things for students," says
See page 7: MORE
No performance, no comment — apathy rules
When you ask Platypus International
about student council's performance this
year, they answer with a stern "no
No performance, no comment, they say.
But PI candidates Kevin Twa and Charles
Menzies will try to turn council's performance record around with their platform, by
speaking to the issues which affect students
and first off by fighting apathy.
"Only eight per cent (referring to the
board of governors elections) have fought
apathy — apathy rules," says Twa, chairperson of PI and running for president, director
of administration, and external affairs officer.
"Our campaign will hopefully bring out
people who don't normally vote?' says Menzies, who is running for director of finance
and vice-president. He is also the secretary of
What is Platypus International? First, it is
an affiliate of the Parti Rhinoceros,
Canada's alternative political party, a party
committed to resign if elected and run as incumbents in the subsequent by-election.
PI is revisionist however. They will not
resign until they have fulfilled their promises
or are impeached — whichever comes first.
Further, it is a party whose members,
rather than worshipping the symbols they
have created, are themselves symbolic of the
party's symbol. Its members are like the
platypus, which by their own scientific
research is found to "have everything but is
suited for absolutely nothing," says Menzies.
But despite the platypus* advanced position on the evolutionary ladder, which puts it
just slightly ahead of humans in generality,
the PI hope to adapt some revolutionary
ideas into student government.
What is Pi's platform? It is a solid piece of
oak covered in a tacky teak veneer mounted
on four legs standing about four feet off the
ground. The fact that it is made of ex
travagant   and   expensive   materials   does
bother Menzies.
"With a $200,000 surplus we feel we can
afford our platform. After all the AMS
already spent $10,000 on a table for the council chamber," says Menzies.
The platypi are also not short of ideas on
how to spend the rest of the AMS surplus and
not create another one. PI would:
• form the Hawaiian Holiday Club;
• lower Pit beer prices by 60 per cent and
offer free beer twice a month;
• dismiss immediately all bureaucrats
who use triplicate forms;
• require faculty to carry cards and pay a
user fee for crossing AMS property.
"Finances are good and we'd like to
change that. We have an affinity for red in
financial terms," says Menzies.
The party's most prestigious promise is the
Hawaiian Holiday Club. The Club will have a
five dollar membership fee. "All clubs have
fees," says Twa. Membership includes a subsidized trip to Hawaii. "If there are too many
requests we plan to offer only one way
tickets?' says Menzies.
The remaining three promises are all fiscal
measures. The liquidation of beer prices will
help reduce the surplus and the revenues
from the faculty card fee and the sale of
paper will help finance the HHC.
In addition to dismissing bureaucrats who
use triplicate forms, PI plans to employ
secretaries to collect back all the distributed
"The secretary of tomorrow will sit on
his/her or her/his desk and instead of handing out forms will take them back and file
them according to color for recycling," Menzies predicts.
The amount of time committed to fulfilling PI campaign promises will be directly
proportional to the number of votes the party
receives in the election. Page 4
Tuesday, January 27,1981
Little choice
Every year it gets harder. Every year the outgoing representatives of the students leave more of us disenchanted and less of us
willing to participate in what is becoming a stationary joke on the
second floor of SUB.
The candidates for senate and board of governors left us dazed and confused. The candidates for Alma Mater Society executive
leave us utterly bewildered. Never have so many been found who
are so ill qualified for so few positions.
Forced to choose, we find perhaps one, maybe two people
worth voting for. First prize for making the most sense is Bill
Maslechko, running for director of administration.
He doesn't agree with astronomical surpluses, thinks Pit
drinkers shouldn't be taxed to fill AMS coffers and seems to be
worried about rising tuition fees and cutbacks affecting quality of
education. Way ahead of the pack.
With reservations, there is also James Hollis running for external affairs. Maturity just might count for something and Hollis is of
advanced age.
For those who want a perfect continuation of this last year's
fiasco, there is Marlea Haugen running for president and Peter Mitchell for vice president. Every student on this campus has paid for a
SUB building which will one day be handed over to the administration and is paying for an aquatic centre we barely have access to.
Haugen and Mitchell think the this means we somehow owe
somebody something and we've got to pay out an unnecessary $15
a year to pay off this imaginary debt. At least Maslechko thinks we
should get to vote on it.
For president, vice president and director of finance, we suggest the Platypus International party.
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Large TA turnout needed in strike vote
The TAU strike vote is coming up
this Wednesday. Many TAs, tutors
and markers, however, remain unconvinced of the importance of
their vote. A large turnout is
necessary for a quick resolution of
the contract dispute. Otherwise, the
results of the vote will be indecisive,
and the decision will be that of a
Many non-union TAs believe that
these issues have little effect on
them. But the contract that is to be
settled is binding on all of them. It
will decide such questions as
whether membership in the union
will be open or closed. Other TAs
believe that non-union members
should not vote, since the strike
does not affect them. This sort of
selective view of democracy is unacceptable, as the contract (and union
dues) apply to everyone.
The bargaining unit (all TAs,
tutors and markers) has a wide
variety of people in it. Both within
and outside the union, the way in
which one would vote is by no
means obvious. The majority of
union members seem to favor the
strike. Yet there are those who did
not join intentionally, but only (so
they believed) to have a voice in the
unionization vote. There are those
who were told when joining that
anything less than an open shop
would be "undemocratic," or that
the possibility of a strike was
"ridiculous." There are others,
non-union members, who favor the
strike to show the union their support. And then there is the remainder, those who do not care or
do not know about the issues.
The facts about where the
negotiations now stand are
available, if not well publicized.
Wages have been settled, and a
grievance procedure set up. All TAs
and markers will be paying union
dues, the majority of which will go
to CUPE. What is under dispute is
union membership, whether it will
be open, or closed, under the
"Carleton formula."
Under this formula (TAs at
Carleton first used it), all TAs and
markers are union members.
However, they can withdraw if they
"declare a religious or conscien
tious objection to membership in a
trade union," and submit the required form within ten days of the
contract ratification date or
employment date. Any person who
has submitted a revocation card is
not eligible to participate in decertification or strike votes. Under the
open shop, TAs can join at any time
during their employment. Under
either arrangement, though, once
someone becomes a member, they
do not have- the option of leaving
the union.
The union believes that it needs
the union shop to prevent an annual
membership drive from sapping its
strength. On the other hand, open
membership tends to attract more
active members. It also forces the
union to justify its positions and
raison d'etre. An open shop also
yields membership figures that truly
reflect the union's support on campus.
Finally, what scenarios can we
expect as a result of this vote? If
there is strong support for the
strike, the administration may settle
immediately. Failing this, a strike of
TAs might be called, with union
members suspending their duties.
The most radical scenario is that of
a  university-wide  strike  if other
campus unions walk out in sympathy. If the vote fails decisively,
then the union may decide to settle,
or it may decide to keep
negotiating. The third, and worst,
possibility is that the vote is indecisive, and the union and administration remain at a standstill.
For these reasons, I urge all TAs,
tutors and markers, union and nonunion, graduate and
undergraduate, to vote this
Wednesday, January 28, 9 a.m. to 5
p.m., at International House (by
the Grad Center).
Richard Szeliski
graduate studies 7
TAs need union security
On Wednesday, January 28, the
Teaching Assistants' Union will
hold a strike vote. The one outstanding issue between the union and
the university is union security. The
recent banter surrounding the remaining issue has ignored the context of this issue for this union in
Canada 1981
The public sector is a new group
to be organized. Strength and determination of public sector workers
made their unions legal and viable.
University academic employees are
an even more recent group to
organize within the public sector.
Because Teaching Assistants are
members of the university community, and particularly as they are
students, the union security issue is
being blurred by the university
through the use of an academic
The academic argument has been
that the union security proposal
hinders free choice. Firstly, that
argument is a totally incorrect interpretation of the union's proposal.
By a very simple procedure, anyone
can refuse to join the union within a
specified period.
More      importantly,      the
Highest paid?
Who is the highest paid woman
on the faculty at UBC? How does
her salary compare with a man in a
similar rank and position?
Thank you for considering an article regarding "salary facts." I became curious about the above questions as I was reading your rcent article on tution fees "Fee forum to
go without admin" (published Jan.
S. Wong
university's argument is designed to
invoke an academic set of values in
order to deny union security. The
university is using this ploy simply
to mask the fact that it wants a
weak union to negotiate future contracts. But talk of freedom of
choice goes well in regions of higher
The TAU needs a union security
clause for the identical reason than
any other union needs a security
clause: most unions would be
weaker without it. Because of the
particular circumstances of our
union, a union security clause is
even more critical. Both the rapid
turnover of employees and the
geographical isolation of departments and individuals make contact
with our bargaining unit much
more difficult than in normal settings.
The university opposes union
security for the identical reasons
that any other management opposes
union security. Only the liberal talk
is tailored to the academic environment — not the motive behind it.
We urge you to demand that the
future strength of the Teaching
Assistants Union is protected. Vote
yes in the strike vote tomorrow.
Peter Fryer
Judith Mosoff
Malcolm Kennard
recording secretary
January 27,1981
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Kent Westerberg handed the package to Arnold Hedstrom. A.H. knew what that meant, and he ran
like a madman down the narrow streets of the Corsican village until he came to the stall where wizened
hag Nancy Campbell told the fortunes of those unfortunate enough to find their way there. "Do you
have it?" she asked but she knew already and grabbed the precious bundle, disappeared through a rear
exist where three bald midgets, Mark Leiren-Young, Kent Westerberg (no relation), and Scott McDonald took possession of the brown object and promptly mailed it to their slightly mad relatives in Seo
Paulo, Verne McDonald and his spoiled ward-cum-gtgolo Tom Hawthorn who immediately drove
across the pampas with the goods to the decaying sirverfish- ridden ancestral seat of eccentric ranchers
Gord Wiebe, Eric Eggertson and Heesok Chang who handed the by now smelly package to ace
junkman Glen Sanford who sold it to artifact-fancier Steve McClure who could stand the suspense no
longer, opening the package only to find the severed heads of Photog X. Tuesday, January 27,1981
Page 5
Who are your friends, Kurt?
This is probably what you wanted
when you wrote your your last letter. (What's Wrong with Women?
Jan. 13, 1981.) You seem to delight
in getting hate mail from irate women. Perhaps it's the only contact
you get with those of the opposite
sex. It certainly seems so from your
last article.
You seem to think women are all
gorgeous vixens with hearts of ice,
or shall I say "empty-headed and
callous females," to quote you.
(Only in the last paragraph do you
mention "unpretty" girls but won't
admit to their being ugly.) All your
female friends must be prostitutes
because those are the only females I
can think of with any of those qualifications. There are very few others
who fit the bill and are not in that
line of work.
Your whole letter deals with the
"poor male" who finds rejection at
every turn from women. You may
be surprised to know that women
feel as much rejection as men.
Never being asked out is just as bad
as always being turned down.
This ". . .shakes her confidence,
reinforces her shyness, perhaps
pushes her into the abyss of self
hate. Thus making it impossible for
her to even think of being the instigator of a relationship."
The only reasons I can think of
for you to want women to start to
do the asking, is to boost your male
ego or get kicks out of seeing a woman pick up a man for a change.
The title should have read, What's
Wrong with Kurt?
You say "men are always forced
to act as if they were the ones to
want something from women — a
scenario that still encourages women to barter sexual favors in exchange for gifts and numerous concessions." I say it's garbage!
No one is forced to do anything.
I've never seen any man's arm being
twisted when he wanted something
even if he knew that there was a
And, if you're interested in a normal relationship, it certainly
wouldn't be with one who "barters
sexual favors" because, as I have
said before, these are not normal
women. I just wonder how you got
to know so many. Could it be that
your own rejection read things into
their characters before you got to
know them well?
Again, further on, you mention
that women are in an "enviable bargaining position." All of them?
You must be joking. What about
men? They have sex appeal too!
There are just as many male
counterparts that do their share of
Then you have the audacity to
say ". . .quite a few men to be born
with the need of love and to depend
on women for this love." Is this to
say that women don't have feelings
and the need for love too? Oh, I'm
sorry, I forgot — women are just
empty-headed and callous with no
For a matter of your information, I happen to know that a great
majority of men like the "superior"
role they play and would feel very
awkward to be asked out by a lady.
Yes, these people are very normal.
Believe it or not.
Again you think women heartless
when you say "women who disrespect shy men. . ." and proceed to
give the impression that none of us
women like shy men.
On the contrary, most of the women I know would much rather seriously date a shy or less aggressive
man than one who can't wait to
jump into bed. (Which is how a lot
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You mention the two types of
men; aggressive and shy. Again,
what about women? There are two
kinds of us, too. Shy women are as
interesting as shy men when they
feel comfortable.
You seem to think that the female
alone has shaped our society and
how the two sexes must act towards
each other. It takes two to tango,
chum. Women have been trying to
change that for the last several
years, or haven't you noticed? It's
only the male who won't let go of
his "macho" role that won't let us.
How dare you say that the risk of
rejection is smaller for women than
men. It is the same! "Poor male"
my foot. Maybe you can't let yourselves treat us as equals in the work
force but have the decency to allow
us the same feelings. There are just
as many women as men staying
home weekends feeling the same rejection.
"Whatever the cause, an occasional rejection can only enrich the
spectrum of female emotions and
make women more sympathetic to
the male predicament." Good God,
man, where do you come from?
That statement is utter rubbish.
Just place male in where it reads female and get the other, equal side to
the picture.
The more I analyze, the angrier I
get and I know that that is exactly
what you want. So I'll stop. I hope
you find help with your frustrations
and please don't insult our intelligence further by taking crayon in
hand to write a sequel.
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evidence of domestic affliction. If fees are not paid in full by
January 30, 1981, registration will be cancelled and the student concerned excluded from classes.
If a student whose registration has been cancelled for nonpayment of fees applies for reinstatement and the application
is approved by the Registrar, the student will be required to
pay a reinstatement fee of $35.00, the late fee of $35.00, and
all other outstanding fees before being permitted to resume
classes or re-register in a subsequent session.
Take note that the Students Court is convening to hear
' the following matter:
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premises on Friday, 14 November, 1980 by Ross Burn-
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'Tween classes
Planning film: Barrio Excopa — Mania, (note
program changa) noon, Buch. 106.
Ganaral maating, noon, SUB 111.
Ganaral maating, noon, SUB 224.
Ganaral maating, noon, SUB 212.
Thia avant la not taking place, SUB 216.
Poatponad until tomorrow.
Euchariat — coma one, coma aH, noon, Lutheran
Campua Centre.
Puto Lanfranco apeaka on studenta in Chile,
noon, Law 101.
Spaniah conventional evening, 8:30 p.m.. In-
ternationat Houae.
Patricio  Sanfranco,  preakjant of  the  largest
democratic atudent eeeociation in Chile, the Cul-
tural  Aaaodation  of  tha  University,  apeaka,
noon. Law 101/102.
Marxiat literature and diacuasion, 11:30 a.m. to
1:30 p.m., SUB concouraa.
Ronald Hingley, Oxford University, speaks on
Chekhov, noon, Buch. 102.
Bohdan Krawchenko spaaks on One day in tha
life of a Soviet Ukrainian citizen, 3:X p. m., Buch
Ruaaian  conversation  practise,   noon,   Buch.
General meeting and gueat speaker Taiato Hein-
onen, and performance radyiat, 7 p.m., SUB
Argentinian theologian Emilio Monti leads a pub
lic diacuaakxi following dinner, 7 p.m., Lutheran
Campua Cantra. Dinner ia at 6 p.m.
Soma type of undescribed event, noon, SUB
Ann Dahl of the B.C. Teacher* Federation
apeaka on creative job aaarching and job pros-
pecta in apecial education, plus nomination! for
SCEC and association executive for 1981, noon,
Scarfe 1006.
Drop-in co-rec inner tube water polo, 7:30 to
9:30 p.m.. Aquatic Centre.
General meeting and election*, noon, Henry Angus 425.
General meeting, noon, SUB 206.
Attention English 100 studenta: Cinema West
presents Jane Eyre, with Orson Welles, 8 p.m.,
SUB auditorium.
Drop-in centre, 2:30 to 4:30 p.m., SUB 215.
Punch at 5:X p.m., supper at 8 p.m., Lutheran
Campus Centre.
Ronald Hingley, from Oxford University, speaks
on the Russian mind, noon, Buch. 102.
Hingley speaka on poets, audiences and Stalin,
3:30 p.m., Buch. 2224.
Economics week liquidity trap with bzzr, whyne
and snacks. 8:30 p.m., SUB 207/209.
Ascent of Man series: Hidden Structure, the
story of chemistry and fire to metallurgy, noon,
Library Processing 308.
Bake sale to raise funda for exceptional persona'
Hot flashes
Pole preblems
We have many phone calls and
letters coming in asking, "What's
the Pope up to these days? Think
he's going to make it to our next
bzzr garden?" To find the answer to
this and many more questions,
show up noon Wednesday in Buchanan 202 for Antoni MacZak's
lecture on Problems of Poland today.
Have the quasi-cops victimized
you lately? Do something about it.
Suzan McLean McVicar of the law
students' legal advice program
wants to contact all holders of valid
Vi price
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3144 W. Broadway
Open 9-6 Tues. tc Sat.
No appointment necessary
faculty/staff parking stickers who
have had them arbitrarily revoked
by the campus cowboys. She can
be contacted at 228-5791.
The traffic and security department has a long history of terrorizing innocent, defenceless vehicles
when owners aren't around. Sometimes even when the owners are
around. Stop the oppressionl
Gay drep'ln
There will be a Gay UBC drop-in
Wednesday from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m.
in SUB 215. It's open to any gay
member of the university. Gay UBC
members will be present to answer
week In March, noon, Scarfe lounge.
Dr. Haaaam apaaka on eodal iaauea, noon, SUB
Drop-in co-rec volleyball, 7:30 to 9:30 p.m.. War
Memorial Gym.
Diaioguea on Development series: session three
on China, 7:30 p.m., International House upper
Paddy Ducklow spaaks on Standing up to love
— the world, noon, Chem. 260.
Film: Controlling Intereat. A must for all commerce students, showing the attitudes of busi-
neea executivea towards tha third world, noon,
Buch. 206.
Genera) meeting and film on El Salvador: Revolution or Death, noon, SUB 206.
Woman's Studies Program visiting speakers
series: Jim Winter, UBC dept. of history, speaks
on widowhood in Victorian Britain, noon, Buch.
Public meeting about the purpose of the Christian Science Organization, noon, SUB 117.
Diacuasion of job opportunities, noon, IRC 1.
Ronald Hingley of Oxford University speaks on
Dostoysvsky's humor, 3:30 p.m., Buch. 2224.
General meeting for ali Amnesty UBC members,
noon, SUB 206.
Economics week: panel diecussion on the relevance of economic analysis to government pot-
icy and business analysis, noon, Buch. 100.
UBC first annual public spooking contest open to
all full-time UBC students, 7:30 to 10 p.m., IRC
1. Register with Dr. Yorsh, 876-6131.
Panel diacuasion on women in engineering,
noon, Buch. 102.
Blue Jay, a gueat speaker from the lesbian information line, noon, SUB 212.
Deadline   for   registration   in   women's   floor
hockey league, War Memorial Gym 203.
Deadline for registration in men's Bookstore
three on three basketball tourney which is to take
place Feb. 7 and 8, WMG 203.
Planning meeting, noon, SUB 115.
Meet for retreat and dinner in restaurant, bring
sleeping bag, 4:30 p.m., Lutheran Campus Centre.
Video on wife battering, noon, SUB 130.
Economics week: Grant Reuber, executive vice-
president at Bank of Montreal, speaks on steps
to improve international economic coordination,
noon, Buch. 100.
Marxist literature and discussion, 11:30 a.m. to
1:30 p.m., SUB concourse.
Manning park cross-country ski trip, all day.
Manning Park.
Informal tournament with trophy prizes, 6 p.m.,
SUB 209.
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Page 7
Hockey 'Birds
take win at last
The Thunderbirds men's hockey
team won their first league game
since November this weekend, but
couldn't manage to win two in a
After a 7-4 loss on Friday night,
the University of Saskatchewan
Huskies showed why they are ranked fifth in the nation as they trounced the 'Birds 9-2 on Saturday evening.
UBC was first to score on Friday
night in a fast-paced first period as
Tom Ouchi moved in from the corner and let a backhand shot loose
that eluded Huskie goalie Steve
Saskatchewan's first goal came
on a power play with less than a
minute left in the period when Rey
Hudson scored from the slot.
Greg Wiebe gave Saskatchewan
the lead in the second period on a
fast snap shot that eluded
Paterson's glove.
Drew Hunt of UBC quickly tied
the game when he picked up a loose
puck in front of the Huskie goal
and lifted it into the net. Barry Zan-
ier made the score 3-2 UBC when
his wrist shot from the point de
flected off a Saskatchewan defender and went rising into the net.
At the start of the third period,
Wiebe got his second goal of the
night for the Huskies after skating
around behind the net and slipping
the puck in behind Paterson.
A minute later UBC's Bill Holowaty scored to put the 'Birds out in
front 4-3. Bill Trenamen scored the
eventual winning goal on a breakaway, as he easily beat the Saskatchewan backup goalie Bob Dougall,
who was called on to replace Amiss.
Hugh Cameron and Holowaty
finished off the scoring for the
'Birds in the third period and Del
Chapman scored for the Huskies in
the final minute of play as the
'Birds won 7-4.
Saturday night, the Huskies came
out strong and by the end of the
first two periods they held a commanding 6-1 lead. The Huskies easily downed the 'Birds 9-2, while
Randy Wiebe was the top goal getter for Saskatchewan with three.
UBC, now with a record of three
wins and 12 losses, take on the University of Calgary Dinosaurs this
weekend at the Thunderbird Winter
Sports Centre.
(   'Bird droppings    j
The Thunderbird basketball team
ran into a hot University of Lethbridge on the weekend and dropped
two games.
The Lethbridge Pronghorns led
by Al Chappie's high percentage
shooting defeated UBC 87-77 on
Friday night and 81-80 Saturday
'Bird coach Peter Mullins said
Chappie was UBC's main nemesis
in the two games. On Saturday
night Chappie scored 11 straight
Lethbridge points in the fourth
quarter to secure the one point victory. Mullins said that both teams
played well on Saturday and it was
just a matter of who got the breaks
at the end.
John Doughty was the 'Bird top
scorer with 20 points while Kim
O'Leary and Bob Forsyth contributed 16. UBC did not help its cause
by sending Lethbridge to the foul
line 22 times while only going there
eight times themselves.
On Friday night the 'Birdmen
played poorly according to Mullins.
They shot only 43 per cent from the
floor compared with Lethbridge's
58 per cent.
O'Leary was the game's top
scorer with 23 points while Forsyth
added 20. Chappie was eight for 10
from the floor in leading Lethbridge with 18 points.
UBC has only won one game
since Christmas and now have a
four and six record. This leaves
them in fourth place in the Canada
West Athletic Association and they
have to win from here on in to catch
second place Saskatchewan for the
last playoff spot.
*      •      *
The UBC soccer team played
Simon Fraser University on Saturday and those who think SFU is the
best college soccer team in town will
have to reevaluate their thinking.
The 'Birds got two goals from
Gordie Johnson and one from
David Jones to defeat the Clan 3-0.
UBC coach Joe Johnson said that
the was pleased with his team's performance considering the reputation of SFU. He said that his team
possibly in awe of this reputation
started very slowly but after realizing "there was nothing there" took
over and dominated the game.
This is the first time that UBC
has beaten SFU in a major sport
this year. The only problem is that
UBC, unlike SFU, does not consider soccer a major sport and the
game did not have the usual athletic
department backed hoopla that accompanies a SFU-UBC basketball
or football game.
*       ■»       »
For the women's and men's
volleyball teams the second Canada
West Athletic Association tournament ended exactly like the first
This means the women are still
one of the top teams in the country
and the men are still struggling.
The Thunderettes finished the
tournament with a second place 4-1
They went down to Saskatchewan by the score of 3-1. All of the
games were close and two of the
losses were by two and three points.
The men were two and three in
the tournament which is exactly
how they ended after the first one.
They beat the University of Victoria
and the University of Lethbridge.
UBC is now in fourth spot.
The next tournament is this coming weekend in Victoria.
* «     *
The UBC ski team ventured
across the border to partake in the
University of Washington-Husky
Invitational Ski meet Friday and
Saturday and returned home with
top honors.
The women's team cleaned up,
finishing first overall. Darcy
Estabrook won the giant slalom,
Kathy O'Sullivan won the slalom
and the individual combined, and
Mia Davis placed first in the cross
The men's team finished second
overall behind the University of
Puget Sound. Bruce Hetland was
second in both the giant slalom and
the slalom, and Ole Anker-Rasch
was first in the cross country.
* »     •
The UBC wrestling team lost a
tough decision to the University of
Western Washington in Bellingham
this weekend. Although they dropped the match 30-19, the 'Birds did
have some outstanding individual
Wayne Yeastings, in the 118-lb.
class, and Rob Jones (126-lb.) both
pinned their opponents, while Randy Takasaki (134-lb.) and Marty
Gleave (142-lb.) both won.
— gord wlaba photo
CONFUSED BEINGS from outer space attempt to disguise themselves as huskies in order to infiltrate earth.
They are captured on film here poking humanoid in experiment on reflexes. They discovered humanoids easily fall
when balancing on thin metal blades while gliding on ice. Humanoid was UBC Thunderbird Graham Kerr, who
played Friday night at the Thunderbird Winter Sports Complex. 'Birds won 7-4.
From page 3
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Menzies' platform may be read in
the special Platypus International
section on page three.
One of the main points of Rob
Swiniarski's campaign is to humanize the position of finance director.
"The biggest point that I'd like to
get across is just expanding the job
beyond the dollars and cents and
the books. I think all those issues
such as the south side centre and the
pub, that's implicit with the job,
that's part of the territory. Because
being responsible to the students
means that you have to make those
decisions in their best interests,"
Swiniarski said.
He said the fact that his experience in finance is limited to high
school courses in business and a
first year business course at UBC
doesn't really bother him.
"On the one dimension there is
money management. It entails a bit
of exercising of judgment to make
sure that nobody goes out of line
but it's just handling a cheque book
except that the numbers are bigger.
"I don't mean to trivialize the
job, there's a lot of responsibility,
but it's fairly static at just preparing
budgets and signing cheques,"
Swiniarski Said.
He said although he was asked to
run by two other candidates, he
would vote as an individual.
"You can't take undergraduate
societies into account when you're
working for all the students. That's
just being irresponsible," Swiniarski said.
He said he would like to see students better informed about the
various levels of UBC's government.
"They have to know how all the
organizations are working: the
AMS, the board of governors, senate. They have to know the paths
and essentially what they need is a
road map and I don't think they've
ever been given one.
"I think probably too many ideas
go by the wayside because they
don't know who to talk to. If you
let students know who is in charge
and what the proper channels are, it
could certainly turn around communications," Swiniarski said.
He believes the question of surpluses depends on what plans the
AMS has.
"I don't think there should be
any surpluses, certainly not of the
magnitude that there are now. But
it wouldn't be a bad idea to have
surpluses if there are speciific intentions or purposes for their use in the
future and not just to put hundreds
of thousands of dollars in the
Swiniarski said he "is not terribly
familiar" with proposed SUB renovations but expects he would have
time  to  familiarize himself with
them over the summer, after the
referendum has been held.
"From what I've seen so far I
think they should probably invite a
little more student input. I think it
would be advisable to explicitly
state their position on it as a point
of reference," he said.
Swiniarski also felt the student
board representatives let students
down during the tuition fee debate
but that council work, although
unspectacular, was satisfactory.
"I'm not the type of person who
really enjoys ignoring things or sitting back and watching," he said.
"I like to get involved where the action is."
A full description of Kevin Twa's
platform may be read in the special
Platypus International section on
page three.
Continue the current building
policy, improve services, and make
the Alma Mater Society more accessible to students are three objectives
Bill Maslechko hopes to achieve if
elected as AMS director of administration.
But Maslechko also will push for
more council involvement in areas
See page 8: THE Page 8
Tuesday, January 27,1981
Native women demand control of their children
B.C. Indian women are demanding both new status and control of
their own children as constitutional
rights, a member of a provincial
native group said Friday.
"Now our children are under the
control of the ministry of human
resources," said Barb Kobierski of
the Indian Homemakers' Association of B.C. "We want to lower the
number of apprehensions of
children (to non-Indian homes). We
want control of our own children."
Kobierski condemned the provincial government's right to move Indian children from their own
families and seek their adoption
elsewhere. She read aloud to IS
people in SUB 130 a presentation
made last September by association
president Rose Charlie:
"It is precisely upon our family
unit that the most incredible and
immeasurably destructive pressures
have been applied by the dominant
society and its institutions, through
missionaries, residential schools,
government-created dependency,
and cultural suppression.
"Our immediate recommendation to the prime minister and the
minister of Indian affairs is to ensure the legal, human and
aboriginal rights of our native Indian children."
(This brief was presented in Ottawa to prime minister Trudeau, Indian affairs minister John Munro
and the Canadian advisory council
on the status of women.)
Native women must be allowed to
maintain their native status if they
marry a non-Indian, said Kobierski.
Currently, such women lose their
status and are legally recognized as
non-entities — neither Indian or
white, she added.
As the wife of a non-Indian,
Kobierski advocates revisions to the
Indian Act to alleviate this problem. But the Indian Act, under
which Munro says all native
changes must occur, cannot sufficiently improve Indian rights, she
"My people are not so naive as to
believe the Indian Act will continue
to protect what little is left for the
generations to follow," she said,
reading from the brief.
"My people realize that in order
to protect their aboriginal rights
their rights must be entrenched in
the new constitution with the Indian
She said the federal government
has offered B.C. Indians only empty promises in acknowledging
fishing and land rights.
"(Justice minister Jean) Chretien
said: 'We will respect all treaties
that have already been signed.' But
B.C. hasn't signed any treaties."
The provincial government, too,
has blatantly ignored native rights
in the constitution, said Kobierski.
"B.C. has never, ever consulted the
Indian people."
From the brief, she added: "The
lack of inclusion of Indian
aboriginal rights in British Columbia's constitutional proposals for
federal recognition is a serious
"It is a very well known fact that
native people here in B.C. have
been stripped of their lands and all
its wealth . . . B.C. Indian people
have had a continual struggle to
keep what little land was allocated
to them under the colonial government."
Kobierski said members of her
association, which is made up of 90
clubs across the province, will continue to lobby for support of native
rights and keep Indian women informed of ongoing political action.
Largest student newspaper joins ad co-op
Special to The Ubyssey
The University of Toronto's Varsity, Canada's largest student newspaper with a circulation of 20,000,
signed a contract Monday for the
sale of national advertising with Canadian University Press Media Services.
CUP Media Services is a unique
student-owned and operated cooperative advertising agency, created
earlier this month by student journalists.
In a busy day for the new service,
the University of Winnipeg's
Uniter, with a circulation of 3,000,
also signed Monday. The Uniter
was the first of 62 CUP college and
university papers to sign. Monday
was the first working day following
the release of the contract.
Meanwhile, the Peak's board of
directors at Simon Fraser University
will vote on joining the cooperative
venture on Wednesday. Capilano
College's student council is expect
ed to make a decision on Thursday.
"CUP Media Services will be run
democratically with input from student journalists across Canada,"
says Bill Tieleman, a former CUP
national executive member. "All
revenue realized will benefit students rather than private interests."
The news service was created by
CUP, a national student newspaper
cooperative, after members decided
to let a contract expire with Youth-
stream Canada Ltd.
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like tuition and the quality of education.
"That is not what my job entails,
but I do support them," says Maslechko. "There has been inadequate council input on these decisions."
He also feels this year's council
has been successful in pursuing
their goals but were not responsive
to issues that arose during the
year. "Tuition caught council off-
guard," Maslechko said. "Building
is an important issue but it is not
our only priority."
Some of the services which he
hopes to improve include upgrading
the copy and ticket centres which
started this year, more grants to
clubs and undergrad societies for
travel and development, and improvement in the operation of the
"It (the Pit) is people's major
bitch. They don't like the change in
atmosphere or surroundings and a
lot of people are not going to the
Pit," says Maslechko.
He also proposes to form a committee to investigate the facility and
make recommendations on how it
can be changed.
While Maslechko wants to continue the AMS building program he
would also like to give students the
chance to vote on continuing the
fee. "I don't feel the fee should be
continued unless students want special projects deemed worthy and
nothing more."
But he hopes students will support the SUB expansion program.
From his experience on the student
administrative commission this
year, he has seen that there is not
enough room in the building to
meet the demand from clubs.
On other financial matters Maslechko would not like to see another
$200,000 surplus year. "A surplus
just means that someone is getting
the short end of the stick. The Pit
should never run a surplus. It is a
tax on beer drinkers," he said.
In addition to his experience on
SAC over the last 12 months, Maslechko has worked with people as a
house advisor at Totem Park and
has been involved in organizing
with the Totem Park Residence Association.
On other issues in this election,
Maslechko supports the women's
committee, is in favor of autonomy
for The Ubyssey and CITR if the
move is supported by popular referendum, and he supports the AMS
leaving the Association of Student
The main goal of Stephen
Henderson's campaign for administration director is to improve
relations between council and clubs.
"About a year ago I started getting involved in student politics (he
was appointed to student administrative commission and SUB
building commission). I ran in the
first place because the war gaming
society was coming under heavy
criticism by the Alma Mater Society
executive and was threatened with
the constitution," he said.
"I'd like to see better relations
between clubs and the AMS. I think
in the past the AMS has tended to
impose itself on the clubs,"
Henderson said.
"There seems to be an attitude of
confrontation between the two
bodies. I'd like to replace this with a
more sympathetic understanding of
clubs," he said.
Henderson adds he would also
like to see a more open AMS.
"I'd personally like a lot of suggestions, opinions and criticism. I
want criticism because I think it
helps me see other points of view.
It's always good to get alternative
opinions," Henderson said.
"I admit when I'm wrong and
I'm willing to accept other ideas
unlike the present AMS executive,
who, if they have a wrong opinion
or a wrong point of view, stick with
it. They won't change," he said.
Henderson is newly elected to
senate, but says he is not afraid of
spreading himself too thin if also
elected to the administration director job, saying he plans to take a
reduced course load next year.
Henderson said he would like to
see improved communications
through monthly student forums.
The proposed SUB renovations
are one area where there should be
more student input, he said.
"As far as-SUB building renovations are concerned, I'm surprised
the AMS has not received more input. In fact, they have no input
from the students right now.
"Those renovation plans were
designed by an architect and the
AMS executive, with no student input," he said. "I disagree with
knocking out those meeting rooms
off the cafeteria because there is not
enough meeting space for clubs."
Henderson said the plaza extension should have student-run shops,
not private, commercial stores. "Or
use that space as another partyroom," he added.
Henderson said he was
dissatisfied with the performance of
council this year.
"I think council's job has been
less than competent because they
were embroiled in too many
political issues and have not tried to
serve student issues. It has become a
political arena, not a place to serve
student interests, which is what it
was intended to do," he said.
A full description of J. Alexander
Fedyk's platform was unavailable
at press time. The Ubyssey regrets
the lack of an interview, especially
since Fedyk did not attend the all
candidates' meetings to state his
platform orally.
Abolishing the teaching
assistants' union, slashing the
women's committee budget to $100,
and abolishing student administrative council are some of the
more questionable views held by external affairs candidate Chris
"I think this TAU is a bunch of
b.s. and should be disbanded. And
I think Discovery Park is a bunch of
nonsense too, but while it's there
you should oppose it all the way.
And I think they should abolish
SAC too and fire some of those
secretaries in the AMS office
because they're not doing anything
anyway," Fulker said.
When asked about the controversial budget problems of the
women's committee Fulker commented, "I think their funding
should be cut back to the $100 that
everybody was suggesting.
"Anyways, if I had my way they
wouldn't have so much money to
throw around. The whole AMS
Fulker, who was recently elected
to the senate, said if he was elected
and found the combined jobs to be
too hard he would resign from one.
"I put my name in before I won
the senate so I figured, why take it
out?" Fulker said.
Fulker said the fact that he is a
B.C. separatist would definitely af
fect his views if he were to be
"I think that we should be more
concerned with what should be going on with UBC instead of looking
at what's going on at Dalhousie or
other universities. They (student
organizations) are all playing games
anyway, all those guys."
Fulker is also against UBC being
a member in the National Union of
"It's a lot of trouble paying people to go around the country and
going to a lot of conventions and all
that, and that's why I don't want to
be in it (NUS)."
Fulker also believes the position
of external affairs is "Mickey
"It doesn't seem very necessary
to have it in the first place. It could
be better done by the president or
the vice president. I think it should
go the way of the passenger pigeon,
but while it's here, what the hell,"
Fulker said.
He said student involvement is
essential in order for council to be
"I don't think you can do
anything until students want
something. I don't think that unless
people get motivated that you'll be
able to do anything. I mean, face it,
students are pretty moribund these
"Until they get involved they
don't deserve representation, I
think," Fulker ssaid.
He would also like to see less
money spent on advertising public
meetings because of the low student
"I'm running because I'm interested," Fulker said, "I'm running because I think I could do a
good job and I don't think the
others could."
James Hollis hopes to bring a
professional business attitude to the
external affairs office.
"I intend to make the external affairs office a respectacle office in
the eyes of the student community
and the external world. I'd like to
see it professionally run.
"I can see myself making
valuable contributions to the AMS.
I've seen deficiencies which my expertise in business management and
political experience can correct,"
Hollis said.
Hollis has held a job as a sales
engineer   for   commercial   elec
tronics, which he feels has given
him valuable public relations experience. The candidate has also
worked as an NDP campaigner for
three years in both provincial and
federal elections, which he believes
has given him experience in "real
life politics."
Hollis is promoting co-operative
action. "I believe in co-ordinating
with other student organizations.
For example, I would like to see the
AOSC-NUS question re-examined
— not necessarily to renormalize
ties, but to examine whether such
an action would be favourable —
this is not to be misconstrued as a
blind rush to join up," Hollis said.
Hollis is not running on a pronounced radical or conservative
platform. "I'm just left of center,"
he said. "I do not subscribe to the
'let them eat cake' syndrome of the
provincial government, nor the 'no
fees on anything' attitude of the extreme left. Moderation, I guess, is
the key word."
Hollis feels that the AMS student
council performance has been better this year than last year.
However, he added, "I question
their surplus, of course, and their
media presentation — communication with students — needs improving."
Two of Hollis' objectives are to
see a major housing project get
started and to improve communication between his office and the student public via weekly update announcements in The Ubyssey.
Hollis' strongest stance is on the
issue of racism, which he feels is a
problem on campus. "I would
never support the KKK, and I do
not recognize the KKK's right to
freedom of speech, because the
KKK wish to remove, infringe on
other group's or organization's
freedom," he said.
Hollis said he would counter
subversive KKK actions through the
formation of committees, and never
through violence.
"The modus operandi of my
position would not be as a star runner, but as a coordinator — as a
coordinator organizing subcommittees, and as a leader providing
direction — not bantering," Holli
A full description of Kevin Twa's
platform may be read in the special
Platypus International section on
page three.


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