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The Ubyssey Oct 7, 1980

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Array AMS demands Discovery input
The Alma Mater Society will take
Discovery Park Inc. to court if the UBC
board of governors does not allow student input into the lease agreement between UBC
and DPI, the AMS research park committee
chair threatened Thursday.
Marty Lund said if the board does not act
on a recent AMS request for student input on
the development, the AMS will challenge the
lease in court.
The AMS request will be dealt with at the
board meeting today.
At Simon Fraser University students are
gearing up for a major political battle with
discovery parks and Burnaby municipal
council as they prepare for an Oct. 21 public
hearing on SFU's proposed research park.
The hearing will also re-open public discussion of council's April 21 decision to approve
DPI's re-zoning for a similar park at the B.C.
Institute of Technology. SFU student society
president Bill Goodacre predicted Monday
that the re-zoning application allowing SFU's
research park to proceed can be either slowed
down or defeated.
But Goodacre said he is not optimistic that
council will give any serious consideration to
their decision at BCIT, although the council
has already admitted it made a mistake in approving the BCIT park as a part of their community plan zoning.
Burnaby council moved Sept. 15 to hear
DPI's zoning application for BCIT because
their original approval of the application
contravened existing municipal zoning by
laws. The April 21 approval was challenged
in court by BCIT student April Page, and the
B.C. Supreme Court agreed to hear her case
— which alleged that council had acted improperly in its approval.
Bowing to pressure from Page's case, the
council amended its zoning by-laws and will
hear the BCIT case on the same evening it
hears DPI's application for re-zoning at
Goodacre said he is optimistic approval for
the SFU site can be blocked because the proposed development would rest on land
granted to the university for educational purposes. Goodacre charged that the light
manufacturing planned for the SFU site
would violate the terms of a provincial land
grant that ceded the land to SFU, thereby
making any Burnaby council zoning approval
"We don't think Burnaby council has the
right to rezone the land," he said. "The land
is a provincial document."
However, Goodacre was pessimistic about
any changes at the BCIT project, which was
well under construction when Page's court
case halted the development.
"A moratorium on development at BCIT
is kind of like spitting in the wind because
they've already half-built the damn thing,"
he said.
A date for the case against DPI has not
been set yet, although Goodacre hinted that
it will probably be heard sometime after tht
Oct. 21 hearing at the Burnaby council
Victim fears
gear reprisal
Fear is the main reason a
medicine student is hesitating to
press charges against six men who
kidnapped him during the Arts 20
relay race held Thursday.
Jason Gray was attacked by six
men who left him bound in a
blanket and gasping for air after he
had just run up a long hill in the
relay. A nearby resident freed the
suffocating Gray after hearing his
screams for help.
The medicine team was in the
lead until the attack.
The kidnapping may have had
the support of the engineering
undergraduate society, who placed
first in the relay.
"We've had one member of the
engineering team admit to knowing
of the kidnapping before it took
place," said Gavin Smart, a
member of the medicine team. It
seems that several, but not all, of
the team knew of the planned attack, he said.
Gray is afraid to press charges
against the six unidentified men
because it may result in vindictive
actions against him and the medicine faculty by members of the
"The engineers are so united I
don't want to antagonize them,"
said Gray. "A precedent may have
to be set by pressing charges, but I
don't want to antagonize bad feelings between the medicine and
engineering faculties."
The police have been notified of
the incident but cannot take any action unless Gray decides to press
charges. Alma Mater Society president Bruce Armstrong said Thursday the AMS may take disciplinary
action against the six men, but Gray
and intramurals director Nestor
Korchinsky have not heard from
him yet about the incident.
Some engineering students consider the kidnapping to be a "big
joke" and that the medicine team is
blowing the incident out of proportion.
"I talked to one of the engineering team runners and he thought the
kidnapping was a big joke," said
Smart. "He thought we were overreacting." Several other engineering students have approached him
with the same response, he said.
"Maybe some people can laugh it
off as a student prank but it is much
more serious than that when it involves physical torment," said
Korchinsky had harsh words for
the attackers. "What could have
See page 3: MED
No homework
stalls builders
Alma Mater Society's building
committee has been told to do its
homework by UBC vice president
Erich Vogt, who said plans for the
proposed south-side student centre
need more research before they can
go before the board of governors.
The committee had originally
planned to present proposals for a
new student complex at today's
board meeting. But Vogt said he
pointed out to AMS president
Bruce Armstrong the plans must go
before the university's land use
committee first.
"Normally any proposal goes to
the administration and (is farmed
out) to the university committees,
so the homework is done before the
proposal goes to the board of
governors," said Vogt.
Lack of research is not the only
problem planners of the $600,000
south-side centre are facing.
AMS president Bruce Armstrong, chair of the planning committee, will meet with angry
members of the forestry
undergraduate society and the
agricultural sciences undergraduate
society about the location of the
centre Wednesday.
The two societies have complained that their concerns have been
totally ignored in the planning of
the centre, which is designed to be
located between the Barn and MacMillan building.
AUS president Barb Johnstone
said Thursday too many major
decisions involving the centre were
made during the summer when
society members were working off
campus. She opposes the centre
because the rowdy atmosphere of
the centre's pub could lead to vandalism of the forestry and
agricultural buildings.
Armstrong said he wants to take
the centre proposal to the board of
governors next month, "with the
proviso the agriculture and forestry
don't raise strong protest."
He said if strong protest is raised,
construction could be cancelled or
Armstrong's meeting with the
societies takes place at an
agriculture-forestry sponsored student forum, which takes place in
MacMillan 160 at noon.
Should the centre proposal be
dropped, Armstrong said the
building committee could concentrate on proposed extension of the
SUB basement into a plaza mall
with club offices and shops and
renovations of the SUB courtyard
to provide additional club space.
Vol. LXIII, No. 13
Vancouver, B.C. Tuesday, October 7,1980
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— eric aggertaon
JOHN GRAY, medicine 1, stands at left after abduction by mysterious pirates, allegedly from engineering, put an
end to medicine team hopes in Arts 20 race Thursday. From Gray, Dave McGivern, law 3, Doug Webber, medicine
4, Gavin Smart, medicine 1 and Mike Perlman, medicine 2, of the medicine relay team hold blanket Gray was
wrapped and almost suffocated in.
UBC crimes prompt AMS action
The recent increase in campus
crime has spurred the Alma Mater
Society to take action against the
planned RCMP cutback at UBC.
AMS external affairs coordinator
Allan Soltis will discuss the issue at
the board of governors meeting today.
Soltis wants statistics on campus
crimes to be compiled so the AMS
can approach the provincial, and if
necessary the federal, government
to prevent the RCMP cutback.
Soltis is concerned because the
RCMP intends to cut its 4 to 7 a.m.
campus patrol shift. "The university without a graveyard shift — can
you imagine that?" said Soltis
Should the board reject his proposal, Soltis said "we're going
ahead anyway."
Soltis said there have been several
incidences of vandalized cars and
broken residence windows. While
the recent surge of bicycle thefts has
abated, the RCMP still expects the
number of theft and vandalism
complaints to increase by over
1,000 this year.
RCMP officer Mike Ryan credits
the slowdown in bike thefts to
publicity in local newspapers and
not increased police investigation.
"UBC is a city within a city,"
said Soltis. "Lifestyles are so different out here that we are obviously prone to more crime. We're
much more vulnerable out here."
Sgt. Fred Hardy said Monday he
supported Soltis' proposal. There
are currently 11 people on staff at
the campus detachment, but the
cutback will reduce the staff to
nine. "We want to do the best we
can," said Hardy.
Crimes are not confined to dark
or deserted areas on campus. A
voyeur was found in the Instructional Resources Centre Saturday
evening after screams from a
woman in a washroom alerted
Eleanor Henricksen.
Apparently the man had followed
an unidentified woman into the
washroom and crawled under the
cubicle she was in. Henricksen rushed in and bumped into the fleeing
The harrassment occured within
a few feet of a large crowd of people leaving a lecture, said
Henricksen. "I am stunned to think
this sort of thing could happen at
such a casual gathering," she said.
"One assumes that one is secure
in public buildings, but evidently
one is no more secure in public
places than when walking to
residence through a dark parking
lot," said Henricksen. Page 2
Tuesday, October 7,1980
SUS is alive
The science undergraduate society successfully survived a bout with
student apathy when a quorum was
attained at last week's fee referendum.
Science students gave the nod to
a proposal for levying $2 fees to all
SUS members, in the largest voter
turnout SUS has ever seen.
The 10 per cent quorum was easily met, as 514 students voted yes,
while 110 voted no. This was a 17
per cent turn out.
"It took three years to pass this
one. Now it goes to the board of
governors to become law," said
SUS president Rusung Tan. "Get
ting quorum isn't easy in a society
as apathetic as ours."
The fees will be levied starting
next year, and will immediately go
toward paying off a $3,500 loan
SUS borrowed from the AMS last
year to meet operating expenses.
Tan said if the referendum had not
passed, SUS may have become an
extinct species.
Tan thanked all those who turned
out to vote, adding that they were
mostly first year students who
wanted to see SUS build up in time
for their senior years at UBC.
"The money will go toward beer
gardens and other events," Tan
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11:15 to 11:46 LANGARA DAY in the Quadrangle
10th Anniversary ceremony and cutting of the birthday cake.
Room A130
An Illustrated talk by Dr. M. McGregor
A contest between students and faculty will be held. Location
depends upon the weather.
3:30 p.m. HISTORY ON STONE - Room A136
Classics seminar guest speaker Dr. M. McGregor
Room A130
A slide presentation on South America by Ms. A. Carr
IN CHINA - Room A130
Mr. John Howard Gibbon who has just returned from two years
in Chins.
7:30 p.m. PACIFIC SPORTS FISHING - Room A130
An Illustrated talk on fishing in the Pacific Coast regions —
Mr. T. Pletcher
Room A130
Students from English 181 and 281  present scenes from theatre
history — Mr. J. Parker — Greek scenes
2:30 p.m. A MUSICAL AFTERNOON - Room A130
A concert of popular and classical music will be presented by the
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This is your chance to get involved with your AMS.
Applications are now being received for the following positions on
Chief Justice — must be in 3rd year Law
Four (4) Judges
Two (2) Alternate Judges
(At least one (1) judge must be enrolled in Law)
Applications are avaialble in SUB 238. Submit them to Marlea Haugen in
SUB 240. Deadline: Friday, Oct. 10, 1980 by 4:30 p.m.
Are you looking for a career.
and graduating with a degree
We'd like to tell you about Procter & Gamble
and the career opportunities we have available
for you in Business Management.
Join us at 4:30 p.m. for a presentation followed
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5:30 p.m. ■ 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, October 7,1980
Page 3
Graded clubs proposed for McGill
and other groups funded by the
McGill University student society
may soon be told to participate in a
grading process if they wish to
receive student money.
Student society vice president
Salin Thrani has unveiled a proposal that will rate clubs and other
organizations on a credit system to
determine how much money they
"It creates a just and fair means
of allocating funds," said Thrani.
"We're trying to avoid partisan
politics in allocating money for different groups."
The new system will benefit campus groups by forcing them to increase their membership or improve
their service in order to maintain
their grant, said Thrani. "Do more,
get more," he said.
Gubs that want funding after fall
1981 will have to fill out a questionnaire and have points assigned according to specific criteria according to Thrani's plan.
The criteria by which points
would be given are:
-anc aggortaon
HEROIN CHARGE cards clutched firmly in hand, fellow addicts exchange notes on finer things in life after giving
some poor accident victim junkie's rush. Displaying of tracks, good sharp points and 'some fine Iraqui crystal, you
wouldn't believe' were subjects of witty conversations at Blood Donor Clinic, SUB 207/209 yesterday, today and
for the rest of the week.
'Police called to halt Davis'
Driving a car through picket
lines, harrassing picketers, and hiring scabs during last spring's strike
of the Association of University
and College Employees are some of
the allegations union spokespersons
charged against housing administration recently.
AUCE was forced to call in outside help because of Davis' actions
during the strike, which lasted for
the entire month of May, said Nancy Wiggs, president of AUCE local
"The campus police handled the
first few calls, but when guests
started throwing things at us
(picketers marching at the foot of
Walter Gage residences) the RCMP
were called in," she said.
"The first calls were just in
regards to (housing director) Mike
Davis driving through the lines and
harrassing picketers."
Davis was also condemned for his
hiring policy during the strike.
"We employed CUPE (Canadian
Union of Public Employees) people
who happened to live in Gage
Towers and therefore didn't have to
cross picket lines," said Davis.
Both CUPE and AUCE deny
these allegations, but Ray
Galbraith, secretary/treasurer for
AUCE local one, said "if Mike
Davis claims he did, then he must
believe he hired CUPE workers. I
don't think it was too intelligent an
Davis denied charges that he
abused picketers.
"I know AUCE made those
statements, but obviously I
disagree," he said.
Campus traffic and security or
the RCMP had no communication
with him about driving through
picket lines or assaulting picketers,
he said.
"I was not contacted by either of
those organizations with regard to
those allegations," Davis said.
He declined further comment on
the topic, saying "I'm not going to
comment on that kind of stuff."
The university detachment of
AUCE went on strike May 1
primarily on the issue of equal pay
for work of equal value, said
Pickets went up May 8, and were
concentrated on the convention
centre at Gage, the administration
building, and the computer sciences
Pickets went down the same day
the strike ended, May 29. It had
been a long, hard-fought and emotional strike according to Wiggs,
but when it was over the union had
won only one of its secondary
goals: a union security clause.
In addition to abuse from the
housing  administration,  picketers
were also faced with garbage and
food being thrown on them from
Gage Towers.
But Wiggs said the RCMP and
campus police were helpful
throughout the strike, and the problem was soon controlled.
"At least it wasn't as bad as our
'75 strike, when we had bags of
urine thrown at us," she said.
Wiggs said she believed Davis
took the strike personally, which
caused the friction between himself
and picketers. She said one striker
felt so threatened by Davis the
striker had to be taken off the lines.
Davis said the housing department suffered a $40,000 loss in
revenue due to the strike because
various groups refused to cross the
AUCE picket lines and enter the
convention centre.
"Unions consider student housing and their conference centres to
be very sensitive areas, so whenever
they're on strike they will
deliberately try to affect those
areas," he said.
• if a campus group involves or
reaches more than 300 people it
would receive up to five points in
the 21 point system,
• if the group has been on campus for more than three years it
would receive up to three more
• and if the club or group involves a significant percentage of
non-members it would also be given
The joint management committee
of the student society would also
grant up to three points on a more
subjective basis if it thought the
group was worthy, said Thrani.
Points would also be given for
getting budgets in on time and not
running a deficit.
On-going groups such as Radio
McGill are now assigned money
based on the previous year's grant
but will be required to justify their
activities in detail under the new
system, said Thrani.
"(Students) have the right to
know how their money is being
spent and if it's going into the right
pockets," he said.
The proposal has not yet been
presented to council. Thrani will
discuss it with clubs and other
groups before finalizing it.
The proposed point system is based on one currently used at
Carleton University.
Crowd demands
end to Ont. KKK
TORONTO (CUP) — Despite
bad weather and anonymous
threats, more than 1,000 demonstrators marched through Toronto
Saturday, angrily calling for the
banning of the Ku Klux Klan in Ontario.
The march, organized by the
committee for racial equality, ended at Ontario attorney-general Roy
McMurtry's office, where the doors
were locked. Toronto city councillor Allan Sparrow said McMurtry's absence was "despicable."
At a rally before the march,
Dundley Law, a leader in Toronto's
black community, called on the Ontario and federal governments to
take a leading role in the banning of
the Klan. He disputed McMurtry's
claim that the KKK must commit a
crime before charges against it can
be laid. He said the Klan already
has a history of crime and violence.
"They have committed enough
crimes and must be banned," said
Toronto city councillor Dan
Heap told the demonstrators the
federal criminal code makes it a
crime to "incite hatred against any
identifiable group." He called upon
the government to "take legal action on the basis of the criminal
The Klan opened a Toronto of
fice this summer and Klan leaders
say they plan to expand to other
parts of the province, including Ottawa and Kitchener.
In a letter to the organizing committee, Toronto mayor John Sewell
said the city council passed a motion recently that states "the Klan is
not wanted here."
Norman Kwan, a Chinese Canadian student who was called a foreigner on CTV's public affairs show
W5, said the Chinese community
has a strong dislike for the Klan. He
called the KKK a racist group which
contained "the seeds of its own destruction."
While the Klan's purpose is to divide this community, he said, the
rally and march will only "bring us
George Hislop, leader of Toronto's gay community and a city
councillor candidate, said homosexuals had been attacked by this
"poisonous group of people."
Louis Feldhammer, chair of the
committee for racial equality, told
demonstrators the committee had
received a number of anonymous
Alexander McQuirter, national
director in Canada of the KKK, said
Thursday the Klan had infiltrated
the organizing committee and had
planned to take photographs of
Store bags bucks
University of Manitoba's nonprofit bookstore made a profit of
almost $120,000 last year but officials deny this indicates prices are
too high.
The surplus was almost accidental, said Ken Galston, director of
the university's ancillary services.
"We have no indication of making a profit or ripping anybody
off," Galston said. "We only want
to make enough to cover costs."
But bookstore manager Helen
Garlicki said she expected to make a
substantial surplus last year.
Med rematch to prove winner
From page 1
happened as a result of the act
could be disastrous," he said. "We
should not need a police escort for a
"To scoff at the incident is an irresponsible act," he said.
"The kidnapping is not an issue
with the gears but against the six attackers," said Korchinsky. "It's up
to the EUS whether they support
that conduct. I'd be disappointed if
they did."
Both Gray and Smart felt a lot of
the bad feelings caused by the kid
napping can be cleared up if the
EUS team participates in The Medicine Challenge, a rematch of the
Arts 20 teams to be held this Thursday. (See letters to the editor, page
"The challenge is a prime chance
for the engineers to show the kidnapping was a dumb thing to do,"
said Gray. "It all hinges on whether
the engineers accept the challenge
and come out with a sporting attitude and face up against us honestly.
"Then there wi}l be no question
about who was the better team. The
race will give us a chance to show
our integrity."
"I hope the engineers accept the
challenge, as well as other teams,"
said Korchinsky. He is concerned
about damage to the reputation of
the intramurals program as a result
of the incident.
"We've tried to develop a degree
of respectability in the intramurals
program," said Korchinsky. "It's
too good to have its reputation
damaged by the actions of six students."
The profit was achieved through
a 25 per cent markup over costs.
Garlicki defended the bookstore's
policy over the profit. The profit is
a "safety margin" to serve as a buffer against possible financial
disasters, she said.
The profit will be used to purchase computerized cash registers,
Garlicki said.
The money was not returned to"
students as a price reduction
because other university bookstores
now have computerized registers
and the bookstore did not want to
fall behind, said Garlicki.
Garlicki felt students would appreciate the faster service which she
said would result. More than 31,000
customers used the bookstore during the first two weeks of winter session.
Garlicki admitted prices in the
bookstore were higher than they
would be if the store was on a nonprofit basis, but said they were still
lower than other stores.
But a recent student newspaper
survey indicated prices were less at
the University of Winnipeg store.
The bookstore surplus formed
part of a general surplus recorded
by the university's ancillary nonprofit services. Parking is one of
these services but it also turned a
profit of almost $30,000. Page 4
Tuesday, October 7,1980
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Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater
Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS or
the university administration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page
Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Editor: Verne McDonald
"I couldn't believe it," shuddered Mark Leiren-Young as the crazed images of the weekend danced through the void between his quivering, virgin-
white ears. "There was Keith Baldrey, stumbling nakedly through my room and doing a belly-flop on Nancy Campbell. And she liked it," he gasped. "And then
there was Eric Eggertson devouring test-tube babies. But that's not all. Heesok Chang and Ken Swartz were devouring each other. Chris Fulker kept trying to
do weird things to himself with a knife in the glorious name of socialistic capitalism, while Glen Sanford watched and drooled. And as for Verne McDonald, he
kept trying to make everyone sing Boogie till you puke. Geof Wheelwright just nodded politely and yawned.
Alma Mater Society president Bruce Armstrong has had to
suck back.
He won't be submitting the proposal for a south-side centre to
the board of governors until next month. Why? Because it has to
go through the university land use committee first. Oops.
The land use committee will tell Armstrong whether the site
for the proposed centre can indeed be afforded by the university.
This detail of whether the land is available at all was apparently not
important enough for the AMS to seek approval for their plans.
So much for the foresight of the AMS executive.
The centre itself has been defended by the executive, who
claim that they represent the students of the south side of campus
who have been ignored in the past. They claim they are in tune to
what the students want.
The foresters and aggies seem to think differently. They've expressed a lot of doubt whether they want the centre, whether they
can be sure of their security once it's built, whether it will cause
more hassles than it will cure.
Both faculties claim, as do members of student council, that
they never were properly consulted about the centre.
So much for the executive's constituency.
Together, these two factors of bad planning and ignoring the
students ensure the issue will not — cannot — be resolved at the
next meeting of student council.
Nor can decisions involving the spending of $2 million be taken
lightly. It's time all students, through their representatives if no way
else can be found, were fully informed about the reasons and
details for the AMS executive's plans.
And ifs time those plans were defeated and forgotten.
Bloody right!
So we're wasting your time, eh?
So you really don't think there's any concrete way to improve
the state of the world through your own insignificant actions. Hah!
We got you this time. Because from today (and yesterday) on,
the Red Cross is collecting blood from young, healthy arms and
putting it into arms that really need the old korova.
It doesn't hurt (much) and afterwards you can cut your liquor
intake in half, meaning you can drink as much at the Pit for the
amount you would have paid for two years ago and still get your
apres-study buzz.
It's in SUB 207/209 and it's good for all of us. There's nothing
like 50 fresh units when you're undergoing heart bypass surgery
while seriously strung out on something debilitating. Trust us.
Riled runners reiterate race challenge
The abduction of medicine's lead
runner in last Thursday's Arts 20
road race by six malicious
degenerates has deeply scarred the
image of this historic event.
Unfortunately, even deeper
wounds have been inflicted upon
the medicine team, who were
deprived of the basic right of participation, and the engineers, who
have had a mockery made of their
This year's medicine team, unlike
the majority of contending teams in
recent years, was composed of eight
legitimate, well-trained, highly-
tuned athletes whose ultimate goal
was to win the coveted Arts 20 for
the honor and glory of their faculty.
Admittedly, two of our eight
team members were from faculties
other than medicine, but this was
well within the rules spelled out by
the race committee. Each and every
one of us had logged countless miles
over the preceeding months to ensure that our claims as contenders
were well justified.
Unfortunately, our confident,
unabashed attitude convinced a
small, select group of benighted, insensitive goombahs that we posed a
threat to their sacred team.
So threatened were these
criminals that they felt impelled to
unlawfully abduct our lead runner
off the course and physically abuse
him to the point where he could not
possibly continue the race.
At the awards ceremony, Mr.
Nestor Korchinsky expressed his
deepest concerns about the nature
of this incident and, after awarding
the engineers their precious gold,
cordially recognized our team to
those present.
At this time, I formally initiated a
challenge to each and every team
that competed in the Arts 20 race to
join us in a second race of precisely
the same total distance with precisely the same length for each of the
eight legs run by the exact original
team members so that we would
have an opportunity to display our
running talent, and hopefully
restore some innocence to the Arts
We agreed to donate $50 or our
won money to the Terry Fox cancer
fund for each team that can beat us
fairly. The unbiased Mr. Korchinsky decided that the race will be run
on Thursday, October 16th at noon
on the Harry Logan track (adjacent
to the field hockey pitch).
Since then, we have been unjustly
accused of overplaying this issue to
gain undeserving recognition and
esteem across the campus.
However, had this race been the
championship   match   of  the   in
tramural hockey or basketball
league and the favoured team was
held at gunpoint and prevented
from participating, I quiver to think
of the potential consequences. In
my opinion, the abduction of Jason
Gray should bear the same impact.
As fellow competitive athletes, I
believe that the members of the winning team shared our feelings of
disbelief and disgust. By issuing our
challenge, it was not our intention
to defame the engineers and soil
their victory.
No apologies for missing fiasco
I have recently been asked by
several arts students why arts did
not enter a team in the recent Arts
20 race from VGH to UBC. I initially answered their grievances
However, in light of what happened during Thursday's event I
now have no regrets whatsoever
that students were not running in
the name of our faculty.
As it happens, we have limited
time resources so we try to ensure
arts representation in sports which
span several months (i.e. basketball, volleyball, etc.). This leaves
the onus with individuals to register
in one or two day events like jogging runs, tennis tournaments and
the Arts 20 Race.
I do not wish to pretend that the
absence of an arts team Thursday
allows us as students and as human
beings to abrogate our responsibility to the student who could quite
possibly have lost his life during the
The fact that people exist such as
those who would sooner act irresponsibly (i.e. to kidnap and
nearly suffocate a participant) than
to let the best team emerge victorious is a discredit and an utter
disgrace to our university.
As for the race: an event that
once symbolized the collective
achievement of the student body
has now manifested a shameful,
bizarre fiasco which was probably
motivated by the prestige associated
with winning the race. When sanity
and common sense must be sacrificed to achieve glory and prestige,
then there is little recourse but to
shun such competitions.
The sick people involved certainly failed to appreciate the tremendous amount of work involved in
setting up and organizing a city-
wide race. Nestor Korchinsky and
the entire intramural staff must be
sitting in total disillusionment with
regard to this frightening incident.
I feel that for at least this one
event, Friday's editorial offers a
viable alternative to the set up of
this race which clearly had "no winners".
Recognition of this historical
event should perhaps manifest itself
in the form of a walk from VGH to
UBC, with as many students as
possible partaking. Among other
things, this trek would serve to let
other members of the community
know that we, the students, occasionally escape from the intellectual
bubble on Point Grey.
Let's reward participation instead of ego-crazed physical prowess. After all, we owe the progress
of our university to, among others,
concerned, conscientious students -
not four minute milers!
Paul Yaskowich
arts intramural coodinator
Unfortunately, at the time of my
proclamation, I did not have the
tremendous insight into the potentially offensive nature of our
challenge that a few pugnacious
engineers now boast.
If the engineers are so enraged by
the joke that has been made of their
victory, then surely they should be
elated at having been provided with
an opportunity to prove their
superior athletic prowess once and
for all to the whole campus.
We have not accused the
engineers or any other faculty or
club of committing this crime.
However, it is extremely unfortunate that the deserving reputation
of the engineers points the finger of
justice in their direction.
Gavin Smart
medicine spokesman
The Ubyssey welcomes letters
from all readers.
Especially those who type their
letters, triple-spaced, on a 70 space
typewriter line, because these are
the people who are most likely to
see their letters printed sometime
before next Dunn's Day eve.
Pen names will be used when the
writer's real name is also included
for our information in the letter and
when valid reasons for anonymity
are given.
Although an effort is made to
publish all letters received, The
Ubyssey reserves the right to edit
letters for reasons of brevity, legality and taste.
Neatness counts. Tuesday, October 7,1980
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Council rep blasts strongarm domination
First of all, I would like to thank
Craig Brooks, Alma Mater Society
director of administration, for his
letter (Oct. 3) providing some information for students on the AMS'
planned construction projects. This
is the first time any executive
member promoting them has made
an effort to do so.
He is of course correct that these
projects are to be funded, now that
SUB is paid off, by a continuance
of the $15 student levy. I am pleased that he has told us that $7,000
has been spent on plans and drawings for these projects; it takes more
than "a quick check of council
minutes and reports" to learn this
fact. The committee that was asked
to report to council on these
moneys spent has not done so.
Unfortunately, much of Mr.
Brooks' letter is misleading and
sometimes simply untrue. He claims
that the student council committee
on AMS buildings has been planning the buildings, meeting regularly,
and   sending   regular   reports   to
council. Such a committee did not
meet until September 23, has had
two meetings with four members
present, and has yet to submit a
The one-page minutes of these
meetings (chaired by AMS president Bruce Armstrong) indicate
they were concerned only with such
matters as whether the Southside
Center would have enough
washrooms and the number of
stairs to the SUB courtyard.
Members of council have had little opportunity for input into the
planning of these projects. Only 12
of 33 voting members of council
were able to be present on July 3,
when plans for the Southside
Center were approved, and $5000
allocated for architects' costs for
the Courtyard Conversion. On
Aug. 13, there were 13 members to
allocate a further $1500 for the SUB
Plaza plans.
At no time has council been consulted on the need for these
buildings or on their basic design.
These decisions have been made by
Bruce Armstrong and whoever else
on the executive has been involved.
Because they are employed by the
AMS during the summer months,
they were among the few students
on campus and able to take part.
I find it most hypocritical of
Messrs. Brooks and Armstrong to
claim that council has been involved
in the planning, or that they want
them to be.
In the year I have sat on council I
have been increasingly disturbed by
the efforts of certain executive
members to dominate and control
the student council, and thus all student affairs, particularly since this
spring when the AMS began
operating under a new constitution
(spearheaded by Bruce Armstrong
and by which he was elected).
A prime example is the infamous
media board proposed this summer
which would have taken control of
policy setting and selection of the
editor away from The Ubyssey, and
would have been chaired by (who
else) Bruce Armstrong.
It is also interesting in this regard
that Mr. Armstrong has arbitrarily
ruled that council may question the
executive members for no more
than three minutes at our meetings.
The president and his supporters
have shown a similar blatant
disregard for democratic procedures and the opinion of the
students they are supposed to represent in their railroading of these
construction projects.
Although we have been given no
description of the plans or rationale
for them, council has been told that
we must approve (or reject) them at
the Oct. 8 meeting. Then they are to
go immediately to referendum.
These are the conditions under
which decisions involving expenditures totalling $2 million dollars
are to be made.
Personally, I feel there is a need
for more club space, but I seriously
question whether students see the
most costly parts of these projects
to be our highest priorities.
Do we really need two new bars
and two new lounges? Do we really
want to use our money for
underground shopping mall
At the Oct. 8 meeting a motion
will be made that the three projects
be presented to the student body
and discussed at open forums, with
sufficient notice and description of
them in The Ubyssey, before any
decisions are made.
Council members must remember
that they have a responsibility to the
students of their faculties and
schools, both present and future,
who will be paying for these projects.
Marty Lund
student council
social work rep
Organization fights repressive governments
I am but one person, one ripple
on the ocean, one pebble on the
beach in this political world.
Besides, it seems to me that what we
need are fewer ideas and more
human compassion.
It was with this idea of human
compassion in mind that I stumbled
upon Amnesty International. It has
no political theories or ideologies
and no hatred of the rich or poor,
blacks, yellows or reds, fascists,
communists or moderates. It cares
only for people caught in the web of
political horror.
It supports the man who is imprisoned without trial for merely
speaking what he believes.
It supports the man who is abducted and sentenced to death
because he is suspected of treason.
It helps families locate lost sons
or daughters who just seem to
disappear from the face of the
Amnesty   International   is   in-
Hack spews garbage
It is traditional at this time of
year for washed up hacks such as
myself to write you and criticize
the latest changes you've introduced.
But I wish instead to tell you that
I have found this year's paper to be
a very pleasant surprise, especially
when I remember what I thought it
was going to turn out like during
the just concluded summer of
despair. Keep up the good work.
I find it necessary to criticize you
on a minor point, however. Why
would The Ubyssey even deign to
acknowledge the long delayed
recognition it received in the Alumni Chronicle, as you did in a sanctimonious article on Sept. 26?
I hope that this does not mean
that you would run a major article
should UBC Reports decide to
acknowledge our achievements of
the past and present, for the Alumni Chronicle and UBC Reports are
far more vile than this great institution.
I can only assume that you
printed the story so you could
launch a thinly-veiled attack on
former managing editor Murray
McMillan for implying that The
Ubysseys of the past few years have
lacked a sense of humor. Such an
assertion is ridiculous when you
consider that the papers in my last
year here and this year have been
edited by men famous throughout
the land for their sense of humor.
Chris Gainor
editor 1977-78
dependent of all governments,
economic interests and religious
This political and economic independence allows Amnesty to remain neutral and unbiased in any
political situation. Using the
Declaration of Human Rights as its
bible, it concerns itself purely with
human rights issues.
Based in London, Amnesty
has researchers all over the world
who gather information concerning
recent abductions, tortures, disappearances or any human rights
violation. These researchers check
and double check their information; then, assured of its validity,
send it off to London.
When various Amnesty groups
receive the information (called
Urgent Actions) they organize letter
writing workshops. These letters are
polite yet firm statements asking
about the validity of the information and, if true, demanding the
prisoner's immediate release.
The result: letters from all over
the world arrive on the desks of
responsible men making it difficult
for them to ignore the situation.
Basically, therefore, Amnesty International works with the idea that
if a government is made aware that
the eyes of the world are upon it, it
will be less inclined to commit further violations.
Needless to say, when I learned
more about Amnesty I happily signed up. Conveniently situated right
here on campus in SUB 208 is
Amnesty UBC. The office is open
every lunch hour and every Thursday noon we have a meeting followed by a letter writing workshop.
Mandy Hill
4th year history major
Help! help!
The Red Cross is on campus
from now until Friday. They are
in SUB 207/209 from 10 a.m. to
4 p.m. every day.
Please come out and give
blood as there is a serious shortage of supplies and every donation is very much needed right
There will be a draw for Keg
dinner certificates and inter-
faculty competition as well for
refreshment-type prizes.
Don't forget the cookies and
milk you get before the nurses let
you leave.
Please come out and help.
Chris Thomas
blood drive co-ordinator
RCMP defended
I find it horrendous that Mr. Peterson has the audacity to criticize the
RCMP for their lack of patrols and "awareness" on campus.
Obviously Mr. Peterson must have been extremely upset following the
attack on his person by a knife wielding assailant Sunday night. However
this does not give him a license to criticize the RCMP for their shortage of
patrols and absence of awareness.
Mr. Peterson's conduct (failing to report the attack, permitting the subdued assailant to walk away once he had been immobilized and merely
returning to his residence room) is the type of behaviour which directly
results in the absence of awareness by the police of serious and dangerous
crime on campus.
The RCMP cannot be expected to patrol or respond to this type of crime
unilaterally if they are unaware of its existence.
All of us have a duty to ourselves and to the rest of the people on campus
to report these types of incidents to the police so they can take the corresponding action they deem necessary to protect our well-being.
In response to Mr. Peterson's statement that he did not report the attack
to the police because he, "couldn't think of a logical reason to do so," let
me ask him how he thinks the attacker's next victim will fare particularly if
she happens to be a young woman?
The attacker remains free to prey upon others due largely to Mr. Peterson's irresponsible behaviour.
Norm Fraser
law 1
International students enrich student population
Regarding MLA Jack Davis' "racist"
"Entirely logical." For someone who
studied in that hallowed hall of logic and
reasoning, the B.C. legislature, of course.
But as a concerned student and citizen, I find
it appalling that the differential fee system,
which I have long advocated, could be supported by such erroneous claims, spurious
statistics and irresponsible attitudes as those
expressed by Jack Davis.
Perhaps we should begin with a review of
UBC's present policy towards foreign
students. Currently, visa students are only
allowed into UBC's undergraduate programs
if there are no similar programs offered in the
student's home country.
Should they overcome this hurdle (few do),
then they pay the same tuition as all other
students. There are no restrictions on
graduate students.
One of the hallmarks of a world class
university is a student population of high
quality. International students enrich the stu
dent population as a whole by allowing a
greater exchange of perspectives and
lifestyles and increase the reputation of the
university abroad. When questioned about
this at the student leadership conference, administration president Doug Kenny agreed,
and was in favor of increasing their numbers.
Ont must be realistic, however. As regular
tuition fees cover only about 10 per cent of
the actual cost of educating a student, the
taxpayers must pay the lion's share of education costs.
Since the provincial goverment has been
notoriously tight-fisted with respect to education costs, we have three choices: the status
quo, i.e. — visa students limited to a few; increased visa students with provincial funding
equal, leading to a decreased standard of
education; or a differential fee system.
For reasons mentioned earlier, I prefer the
last alternative. Should the provincial
government deem it desirable, they could set
up scholarship funds to foreign students to
finance them directly, and not indirectly.
Logical? I think so. But Mr. Davis has
chosen an alternative line of reasoning, which
displays an ineptitude sadly too prevalent in
both the legislature and among certain
elements in the media today.
Firstly, one must look at Davis' definition
of a foreign student, which was "students
who presumably return home," — visa
Because of the restrictions outlined earlier,
these are, as a matter of course, a rare breed
at UBC. How, then, could 20 per cent of the
engineering class at UBC be composed of
such students?
One can only presume, as The Ubyssey's
editorial of Sept. 30 did, that Davis 'polling
team' of three engineers counted all the non-
white faces in their class and based the
percentage on those figures.
That is blatant slap in the face to all Canadians of non-white descent. CTV's W5 program made similar insinuations in a program
aired exactly one year ago, which caused
such an uproar across Canada that several
public apologies had to be aired.
Is Davis going to make such allegations an
annual event?
One final point remains to be resolved.
Davis implies that Canadian students are being turned away because of the large numbers
of foreign students.
As many of these would probably prove to
be Canadians (look under their skin, Mr.
Davis, and into their hearts), if students are
being turned away the problem is inadequate
funding by the provincial government.
Many faculties, such as agriculture, law
and commerce, have been forced to cut back
or limit enrolment because of insufficient
In summation, there are many problems
and issues to be dealt with; there are no easy
answers. We must work towards intelligent
solutions, not just seek scapegoats.
Jeffrey S. Lowe
law 2
former president,
Chinese varsity club THE    UBYSSEY
Tuesday, October 7,1980
'What should we do
about our
Debbie Bodinger of the Excalibur
at York University looks at
the psychologists' dilemma
Canadian University Press
"I have some doubts about psychologists suddenly being intrigued by
ethics when some of them can't even spell it. I wonder if so much talk about
ethics isn't like that of the pub Don Juan — we spent so much time talking
about it that there's no time to actually do it."
The speaker was Dr. Graham Reed, York's dean of graduate studies,
opening a conference on Ethics in Psychological Research, held recently at
Atkinson College in Toronto.
The conference reflected some widespread concerns among psychologists.
What are the researcher's moral obligations? What does he owe his subjects,
and his community?
Many have felt that the creation of a formal code of rules could help solve
these problems, by giving researchers a set of criteria with which they can
guide their studies. Much of the conference centred on discussing what these
criteria should be, and how they might be enforced. But Reed brought up a
question which cuts far deeper. What are the implications of assuming that
psychological research requires moral considerations other than those normally given any human activity?
4'To demand a special code of
ethics suggests that we have
special powers for harming people. There's a certain arrogance
in this assertion . . . We've
kidded ourselves for years
that we've got these powers
and now we're trying to
alibi that claim by devising a special
Comments made by Reed and others during the conference suggest that naive acceptance of this assumption has been responsible
for a number of problems ranging from unethical practices to just plain silliness.
Of course, there are at least two reasons
why a group might require a special moral
One was pointed out and challenged by
Reed. "To demand a special code of ethics
suggests that we have special powers for
harming people. There's a certain arrogance
in this assertion. We want to be like surgeons
or physicians. We've kidded ourselves for
years that we've got these special powers and
now we're trying to alibi that claim by devising a special code."
The other was discussed, and rejected, by
Dr. H. Bassford, a philosophy professor
from Atkinson College. He pointed out that
special ethical codes are necessary when society gives special moral responsibilities to a
group that outweigh normal ethical considerations.
Hangmen, he offered as an example, are
considered excused for killing people
because of their special responsibility to rid
society of criminals. The special responsibility of psychological researchers, Bassford
noted, is the advancement of knowledge, but
time and again, he argued, society has not
allowed this goal to supercede ordinary moral
The Nazi doctors, for example, were not
excused for their medical experiments on
prisoners just because they argued that they
had advanced human understanding. Psychological researchers, Bassford concluded,
are only as morally responsible as any other
persons: no more nor less.
But, whether or not these claims for "spe-
cialness" have ever been justified, psychologists have at various times accepted them,
with some interesting consequences.
In fact, it was this very belief that ordinary
moral considerations can be suspended for
the sake of pursuing knowledge that led to
the excesses of the early '60s that in Reed's
words, "precipitated psychology's morbid
preoccupation with ethics." As speaker after
speaker in the conference noted, the alarm
over psychology's use of deception was first
set off by Milgram's infamous experiments
on obedience.
In these studies — originally designed to
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to obey authority — subjects were led to believe that the "learning experiment" in which
they were taking part required them to deliver higher and higher levels of painful, and
potentially dangerous, electric shocks to another subject. In fact, the shocks were not actually being delivered and the other
"subject" was an experimenter.
Much to Milgram's surprise many American subjects (who were to be compared to
German subjects) were willing to deliver these
shocks, obeying the authority of the psychologist who ran the study. Wide publicity of
these results prompted the psychological
community to reconsider their ethics.
Could any amount of knowledge gained
justify the deception of these subjects and the
possible psychological pain they underwent
when confronted with their own potential for
While such discussion was no doubt needed, it's ironic that psychology's answer to the
problem was not to challenge the assumption
that created the problem, but to formally enshrine it. The psychological associations in
Britain, the U.S. and Canada each created
codes requiring researchers to weigh the
benefits of knowledge gained through an experiment against the costs of possible stresses
on or deceptions of subjects.
This move has been open to the charge that
it puts the authority in the wrong hands.
Thus, Reed pointed out, "it's us, the possible criminals, who determine how we should
behave!" Moreover, he noted, "the function
of any moral philosophy is to avoid moral dilemmas. If, as in our case, it makes every case
a moral dilemma, it's an empty system."
So this assumption of "specialness" has
not only led to ethically questionable behavior, it has also helped to create what is, by at
least one estimation, an empty set of guidelines. Furthermore, it has led to a considerable amount of silliness. By considering
themselves as a special group with special
powers, psychologists have at times applied
ridiculously rigid constraints on their own
One example of this was provided by Bassford in his discussion of the agonizing that
some psychologists go through over the
meaning of "informed consent." Most agree
that subjects must be aware if there are any
possible negative outcomes of an experiment,
that they must know that they are free to
leave the experiment at any time, and that
they must not be coerced into participating.
But some psychologists, Bassford pointed
out, interpret these restrictions more severely
for themselves than what is normally accept
ed for other groups in our society. "An army
sergeant asking for volunteers," he said,
"doesn't detail each and every danger of the
mission. He simply tells the soldiers that it
will be dangerous." Yet some psychologists
feel that for subjects to be properly informed
they must know every detail of an experiment, thereby making the experiment impossible to do since people do not behave naturally when they know how their behavior is
being observed.
Similarly, Bassford noted, others ponder
ad nauseum the meaning of "coercion,"
wondering if the awe in which subjects hold
psychologists has not unduly persuaded them
to participate in a study. Bassford pointed
out that this worry is philosophically inconsistent.
The concern for individual rights stems
from a recognition of these individuals as
free moral agents, and as such, he said, "we
have to allow people to make their own decisions, even if they are poor ones."
A more concrete example of the kind of
silliness that can result from considering research psychologists as a group with special
moral responsibilities was provided by Dr. D.
Wiesenthal, a professor of social psychology
at York.
He pointed to a case in which a York psychology professor was told by the university
ethics review committee that he could not
study the effect of caffeine on attention (administering a dose equivalent to three cups of
coffee) without the presence of a physician.
"This," said Wiesenthal, "when on the very
same campus anyone can buy enough coffee
to kill themselves."
What these examples suggest is that many
of psychology's problems with ethics — from
grossly unethical behavior to codes so strict
as to be silly — could be cured by demoting
psychological researchers from their "special
status" and applying to them the same moral
standards that are applied to everyone else.
As usual, Reed puts it best. "We wouldn't
have to bother about codes of ethics if we
were generally good in our behavior." While
psychologists seem to be obsessed about ethics, he noted, they routinely cheat without
giving it a thought: they pad their curriculum
vitae, they give out-of-date lectures, they
leave data out of analysis when they don't fit
the experimental hypothesis.
"I think it's a paradox," he said, "that we
should be so fussy about morals when our
lives are so rampant with immorality. Take
the seven deadly sins — pride, covetousness,
lust, envy . . . my goodness, you're up to
your armpits in it."
Aptitude tests
show economic
and racist slant
Reprinted from the Peak
Canadian University Press
The cultural and economic bias of aptitude
tests has been argued over for years in the
United States.
There is a wide variety of the tests in use
here. The ones which might be called into
question are: the Scholastic Aptitude Test
(SAT), the Law School Admission Test
(LSAT), and the Medical College Admission
Test (MSAT). The tests are administered by
the universities and professional schools to
help them screen applicants. They are important because, to a great extent, they determine which people go on to higher education
and professional schools, and which do not.
They are the gate keepers of the road to
more money, more power and better jobs.
In the U.S. the tests are devised and administered by a private business organization, the Educational Testing Service, which
is a $94 million a year operation. The ability
to predict the first year grades in college,
graduate or professional school is the basis of
the ETS claim to measuring aptitude. The
problem is that the tests deliver an accuracy
of only eight per cent to 15 per cent better
than random prediction with a pair of dice,
according to Allan Nairn, a contributor to
the Ralph Nader Report on the Reign of
ETC, 1980.
The tests are less accurate in predicting
grades in successive years, and even whether
or not the applicant will graduate.
But, says Nairn, "From the objective information of the number of questions individuals got right and wrong, ETS makes
the subjective claim that they therefore have
been found to possess a particular quantity
of aptitude." It is this judgment of aptitude
the schools buy when they rely on the tests.
A further complication is the lack of precision in the scores. In the tests scored from
200 to 800, there is a two in three chance that
a student's "true score," the score he would
get if all background factors were controlled,
may vary up to 30 points. And there is a one
in three chance the student's score would
vary up to 60 points.
Administrators of the test claim that a 60
point difference is insignificant, but 60 points
on an LSAT often makes the difference between acceptance and rejection at any law
The tests also have a racial bias. Steven
Brill, a consultant to the U.S. federal office
of education says, "ETS's business is
perpetuating mainstream values, and
mainstream learning. They're norm setters."
The test reflects the values and experiences
of white middle class America, not the values
and experiences of the various minority
groups. Therefore it's not surprising that
blacks in the U.S. score an average of 100
points lower on the verbal sections of the
SAT and about 115 points lower on the
mathematical sections.
Hispanics, who make up 12.4 per cent of
the population in the western United States,
account for only four per cent of the professional school enrolment.
The ETS reacts to charges of racism by insisting that low minority scores don't reflect
test deficiency but rather deficient potentialities of the minority students themselves.
They blame the inadequacies of the students'
early education.
Nairn points out that it is one thing to inform people that they have been victimized
by inadequate education, which the scores do
when used in the aggregate, but it is another
to use scores to prevent individuals from pursuing opportunities. This is where the aptitude tests serve to perpetuate the inequalities they claim only to describe.
The most striking test bias, however, is the
tendency to rank people by income. There is
a clear association between test scores and
family income.
College Bound Seniors 1973-74 compared
the SAT scores with the annual income of the
students' parents. The results are given in the
accompanying chart. Students from higher
income families are more likely to score
higher than students from middle income
families, who score higher than those in
lower income levels.
Also, we can't overlook the impact of
coaching on test scores. Despite claims by the
test administrators that coaching or tutoring
can't help a student's scores, there is evidence
to the contrary.
A U.S. Federal Trade Commission report
on May, 1979 concluded that coaching
(which is commercially available) could
significantly improve some students' scores.
The found that SAT coaching schools in
Boston had raised scores by an average of
more than 100 points. LSAT scores were raised by an average of 60 points.
"I think there are certain social class biases
in the tests to begin with, and then when on
top of that some people can afford to receive
coaching and some can't ... I think that
compounds the problem," said a former ETS
employee, Lewis Pike. Pike was a senior
researcher for 14 years when he was fired
because his work on the SAT's susceptibility
to coaching proved too controversial.
At the moment, there are two states which
have "truth in testing" legislation. The
United States Student Association, which
compiled the information given here, is
pressing for similar federal legislation. This
would require that testing agencies publish
the test questions and answers, along with
their research analysis of the tests.
In Canada so far no work has been done
along these lines by student associations. We
may profit by the American experience.
SAT Scores
Parents' mean
Income ($)
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Tuesday, October 7,1980
Royals rip ruggers
The UBC Thunderbirds went
down to defeat 16-11 at the hands
of visiting Queen's University in
rugby action Saturday.
The 'Birds managed two tries in
the first half; the first by Robbin
Russel and the second by Brian
Daniels. Although both conversions
were missed UBC was left only one
point behind at the half, setting the
stage for an exciting second half.
First half scoring for Queen's
consisted of a try and conversion,
followed by three more points on a
drop goal.
TTiis gave Queen's a 9-8 lead at
the half.
The second half was wide open
and saw many excellent runs, including a sideline dash by Queen's
which would have been a try had
not the sideline referee ruled the
runner out of bounds upfield.
Bears bomb 'Birds,
bad Bisons next
The UBC Thunderbirds went
down to defeat against the University of Alberta Golden Bears in
football action Saturday.
A two-minute lapse in the fourth
quarter allowed the Bears to score
two converted touchdowns and defeat UBC 34-16.
With six minutes left on the clock
and the Bears holding a two-point
lead, Rick Paulitsch of the Bears
dove two yards for a touchdown.
Bear quarterback Forrest Kennerd
hit Peter Eshenko in the end zone to
put the game out of UBC's reach.
Other Alberta touchdowns were
scored by Dave Jones in the second
quarter and Martin Pardell in the
Wide receiver Mitch Deslauriers
made a 49-yard pass reception in
the second quarter to score UBC's
first touchdown. A 32-yard run in
the third quarter by Pieter Vanden-
oos that resulted in a touchdown
was the other major play by UBC.
Ken Munro kicked two converts
and two singles on wide field goals
to complete Thunderbird scoring.
UBC is now 2-3 in Western Intercollegiate Football League play.
Their next game is Saturday in Winnipeg against the University of
Manitoba Bisons.
UBC concluded their scoring on a
dazzling sprint and quick kick for a
drop goal by Doug Taste. They
came close to adding to their point
total many times but couldn't quite
finish off the play on those opportunities.
Queen's awesome kicker Alan
Erwin made another penalty kick
for three more points in the second
half to give him eight for the afternoon. Clark Miller went in for a try
in the latter part of the match to insure the win for Queen's.
UBC coach Donn Spence said, "I
was very pleased with the team's
performance, especially considering
we are such a young team. Queen's
is a fine team and it was a good experience to play them."
PANGO PANGO (UNS) — Defending world tiddly-wink champion, Grief Bladderly was unable to
attend this year's championship.
Citing his involvement in test tube
baby experimentation, Bladderly
bowed out of the contest.
The championship was rocked
with scandal when other contestants, notably Deathwish Earache,
competed in both the mixed
doubles, mixed triples and straight
shot competition.
Seibu sot for 'Bird*
Seibu, a Japanese hockey team,
will be meeting the UBC Thunder-'
birds in an international hockey
match Thursday at the Winter
Sports Complex.
Seibu is currently in its preseason
training program. The team has
been playing and practising in California. Vancouver is their last stop
before returning home.
Japan is making an effort to improve its standard of hockey to enable it to compete in the prestigious
"A" grouping of world hockey
powers. One way in which they
hope to achieve this is by allowing
each team in the Japanese league
two imports.
The Seibu team has a former
Vancouver Canuck, Garry Monahan, as well as Ted McAneeley
from the WHA Edmonton Oilers.
They also have 10 players from the
Japanese National Team.
Seibu has close ties with UBC because of previous encounters between the two clubs. Seibu beat the
Thunderbirds 6-5 in Tokyo two
years ago and a few Seibu players
attended UBC's summer hockey
UBC coach Bert Halliwell is hoping that the Seibu game will give his
team experience in playing against
other styles of hockey. Because the
Japanese generally have smaller
players they rely on speed more.
After not making the playoffs for
the last two years Halliwell is hoping for a turnaround this year.
Notable returnees include the
1979-80 conference scoring leaders
Rob Jones and Jim McLaughlin.
The 'Birds will also be strong in the
nets with the return of Ron Paterson who spent last year with Canada's Olympic team.
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First place in sight
The Thunderbird soccer team
strengthened their grip on first
place, the only playoff spot, in a
Canada West University Soccer
League game played in Victoria
The 'Birds clipped the University
of Victoria 2-1 to remain undefeated at 3-0-3.
Gordy Johnson, with his second
goal of the game, broke a 1-1 deadlock at the 65-minute mark. Johnson scored off a pass from Joel
Johnson in a scramble in front of
the UVic net.
UVic opened the scoring on a
header from Doug Adlem. The goal
was a result of loose checking by the
UBCs fullback Une.
UBC tied the game on a set play
off a free kick. Randy Coutts chipped the ball over UVic's wall and
Johnson beat goalie Ted Van Wies
with a header to the far corner.
Johnson is now the leading scorer in
the Canada West League.
The 'Birds left Monday for Denver where they will play five exhibition games before returning on Oct.
12. The trip is an annual event and
last year the 'Birds swept all five
UBC's next league game is in Calgary, Oct. 17. A win or a tie will
clinch the league title for the 'Birds.
Arty run earns
cancer bucks
Over 120 teams participated in
the seven-mile Arts 20 run Thursday and nearly $1,000 was earned
for donation to the Terry Fox Cancer Fund.
Only seconds separated the two
front-running teams in the men's
event. The winning engineering
team came in at the 32:17 minute
mark while second place Judo took
32:28 to complete their run.
The Thunderette volleyball team
took the women's event in 40:33.
Varsity field hockey came second in
The Co-Recreational event was
taken by the Medicine team with a
time of 42:11.
Honorary starter for the event
was John Weld, one of the original
members of the Arts 20 senior
team. Thursday was the 61st time
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'Tween classes
Utaratura tatXa; mandat IHarttura and diacua-
aian, 11:30 to 1:30 p.m., SUB main concourea.
VokintMr poaWona opan. all vmk, noon, SUB
Dwnonatntion of Latin and touch dancing, dan
information availabla, noon, SUB party room.
Fraa flan aanaa antmad Tha Long Saarch, noon,
SUB auditorium.
Ganaral maating. noon. SUB 130.
Dr. Blanchard rnaruaaaa famiy practica. noon,
IRC 1.
Dinner foUowad by Paul Nathanaon dawuaaing
Jawnah Liturgical traditions, 8 p.m., Lutharan
Campua Cantra.
Ganaral maating, new membera welcome, noon,
SUB 212.
General meeting, noon, SUB 119.
Mike Harcourt, cendidete for mayor of Vancouver, apeaka, noon, SUB party room.
Bob Dylan-a Don't look beck, 7:30 and 9:30
p.m., SUB auditorium.
Dr. Yeo apeaka on edmieeloni to dental echoola,
new members welcome, noon, IRC 1.
Production meeting, noon, SUB 247.
Maurice Rood, founder of GATE end Gey People
of UBC, apeaka, noon. SUB 207/209.
Panel diecuaaion: Controveraiee in contraception: risks vs. benefits, noon, Buch. 102.
First gsnerat meeting to choose dub executlvee,
eetsbUsh committees, end organize environmental research projects, noon, SUB 119.
Who is the hory spirit? noon to 2 p.m., SUB 205.
Bob Dylan's Don't look back, noon, SUB auditorium.
Stammtisch. Gormen conversational night, 7:30
p.m. Intsrnstionsl House.
Planning meeting, noon, SUB 116.
Turkey trot open to all, juat drop in, noon, Mac-
Science bzzr garden, 4 to 8 p.m.. SUB 207/209.
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And now, something has happened. Because the planet's
tenants have refused to clear, up
their dirty home, the mess has
grown to dangerous proportions.
But harken, from somewhere in
the distance there is a cry. "Whoa
boy. A group that cares about our
planet, the UBC Environmental Interest Group, will hold its first general meeting Thursday at noon in
SUB 119.
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Who was that masked man?
If you see a cat on a hot tin
menagerie, or a glass roof, it's not
your imagination. The wild
characters of the American South
have followed their creator to God's
Yes, Tennessee Williams, distant
relative of Minnesota Fats and Kentucky Derby, is making his only
public appearance of the year
Saturday at 8:15 p.m.
Billed as a distinguished artist in
residence  for   the   UBC   creative
writing department, Williams will
be reading excerpts from his plays
and answering questions from the
audience in Lecture Hall 2 of the
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If you are currently on a Faculty of Commerce undergraduate
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We will be recruiting on campus on November 5. Persons
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All enquirees will be promptly acknowledged.
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At Hillel House
Tuesday, October 7
Shefa Vegetarian Lunch 11:00 — 2:00 p.m.
Wednesday, October 8
Shefa Vegetarian Lunch 11:00 — 2:00 p.m.
The S.E.E.D. Outreach Program at the
Lakewood Yeshiva will be visiting Hillel 11:00
am — 2:00 pm. Come meet these young men
and women actively involved in Yeshiva.
Possible topic of discussion: "Torah: Its
Significance For Our Day".
Thursday, October 9
Shefa Vegetarian Lunch 11:00 — 2:00 pm
Hebrew Classes — all levels begin — 12:30
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7:30 and 9:30 p.m.
Thursday, October 9th
12:30 p.m.
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Tuesday, October 7,1980
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UBC patrol lax on security
Last Friday a fellow student, Ms.
Baker, wrote how her car was tow^
ed away for parking it on Chancellor Boulevard, which RCMP calls
illegal parking. Well that's their efficiency.
This is what happened on Wednesday night in Osborne Centre
gym A.
Four of us went there to play
badminton at 8:30 p.m. We kept all
our belongings in a locker and put a
heavy lock on it. After finishing our
same, we came back to the changing room around 9:30 p.m. and
found all our belongings scattered
on the floor. Of course all our
money was gone (except the
We reported it to the girl on duty
at the gym counter. She called UBC
patrol. She was then informed that
they already know about it and they
will be coming soon.
We were amazed how patrol was
already knowing about it when we
reported just then. It was not another facet of their efficiency or
magic; the girl at the gym counter
then told us that there were in fact
'many other locks broken that evening starting at 7 p.m. and we were
the 12th set of victims.
So there was no point in waiting
for them any more and we called
RCMP. We told the lady who took
the phone at the RCMP office that
we haven't touched most of our belongings as it may help trace the
fingerprints etc.
She asked us if we were prepared
to wait so that she could send one of
their (expert?) officers "soon."
That was at 9:35 p.m. We never
knew that "soon" for the RCMP
would be as long as 50 minutes. We
waited in our shorts shivering and
torturing ourselves till 10:25 p.m.,
when an officer arrived.
He took all our biodata with details as to our date of birth et cetera
(as if we were the culprits), but
never showed an inclination to do
anything that might trace the actual
culprit or prevent such happenings
in future. Rather he gave us a regular shitload of Do's and Don'ts
and left.
There were 12 thefts that evening
spread well over two and a half
hours. If UBC traffic patrol had responded even around 7:30 p.m.
after they were informed at 7 p.m.
at least those thefts between 7:30
p.m. and 9:30 p.m. would have
been prevented.
It is well known that lockers in
swimming pools and most recreational centres are the ones broken
most frequently. Why does UBC se
curity never regularly patrol these
areas rather than wandering as traffic patrol only (giving tickets and
making money)? Are they really a
"security patrol?"
B. G. Raghavendra
V. V. S. V. Rao
S. Prasher
P. S. Sinha
grad studies
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Tuesday, October 7,1980
Renovations nix bookstore sale
The UBC bookstore's annual
book sale will be cancelled this year
because of Brock Hall renovations,
the bookstore's assistant manager
said Monday.
Don Donovan said the bookstore
applied for the space where the sale
has been held for the past four
years, but was told no space was
available because another department was slated to use the same
"We looked around for other
locations that would be suitable and
be available at that time in
November, but there didn't seem to
be anything that was suitable and
available," said Donovan. "Unfortunately, we had to postpone it (the
bookstore sale) for a year.
"We will be bringing in some sale
books and putting them out on a
table in the bookstore, but that's a
very small number compared to
what we usually have," he said.
The present store does not have
Tues., Oct. 7, 6:00 & 8:30 p.m.
Wed., Oct. 8, 3:30 p.m.
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Students: $3.00
Box Office: Room 207
Frederic Wood Theatre
enough room to hold the sale.
"We'd have to take everything else
out of the bookstore in order to
have it here," Donovan said.
Donovan said it is disappointing
that the sale could not be held this
year but expects few problems next
year when the new bookstore will
Erich Vogt, vice-president of
faculty and student affairs, said
Monday the space will not be
available  because  renovations  in
Brock will begin sometime in October. After the renovations are
completed various student services
will be moving into Brock.
"We're moving the student
counselling offices into the area
that was last year used by the
bookstore," he said.
Vogt said he expects the student
counselling centre will be moving
into Brock sometime in January or
Area in the Ponderosa building
currently occupied by the counselling centre will be taken over by the
education faculty.
Brock will be turned into a student services building during the
next few years, with classroom
space gradually being phased out,
said Vogt.
The awards office, a new nursing
station, and a daycare coordinating
unit  will  be  among  the  services
housed in Brock once renovations
are completed, he said.
"The bookstore was warned
about eight months ago that there
was a good probability that they
would not have the space (for the
sale)," said Vogt.
Earlier this year complaints were
made by angry students about the
removal of study carrals from
Brock Hall. The study carrals were
removed to prepare for the renovations.
Science and technology
graduates like George are too
valuable to waste. These are the
people, young and enthusiastic, who
should be helping us to shape
tomorrow. These are minds, fresh and
innovative, that could be involved in
research and development and in its
application to urgent energy and
environmental problems and to the task
of making Canadian industry more
efficient and competitive.
We cant afford to wait.
Private sector companies, individuals, associations, research institutes
and community organizations can help by
developing projects that will contribute
to Canada's future and at the same time
put qualified people to work
in the disciplines they're trained
to follow. The Canadian government is
ready to help by contributing up to
$1,250 a month (for a maximum of 12
months) towards the salaries of
university, community college and
technical school graduates with the
qualifications to tackle those projects;
graduates who haven't, until now, been
able to find employment in their
Talk to Employment & Immigration
Canada about our New Technology
Employment Program.
You know what's on our minds. Tell
us what's on yours.
B> :*8§|%i.
Employment and Emploiet
Immigration Canada     Immigration Canada
Lloyd Axworthy. Minister Lloyd Axworthy. Ministre.


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