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The Ubyssey Nov 18, 1975

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Array NDU fate far from decided
The fourth B.C. public
university announced last week by
education minister Eileen Dailly
may never be established, deputy
education minister Alan Soles said
Soles also said Notre Dame
University in Nelson may still
become a satellite of the three
established universities despite
Dailly's statement NDU would be
the first campus of the new
An education department press
release Thursday stated Dailly has
asked the Universities Council to
begin work immediately on
planning for the establishment of a
fourth public university.
But Soles said the council is still
studying a proposal to have B.C.'s
coastal universities offer degree
programs at NDU and other interior campuses.
"It is a possibility it (the new
institution) would co-ordinate the
efforts of all the universities," he
If the education department
accepts the satellite proposal,
there will be no new public
university, Soles said.
"If degrees from other
universities are offered then it is
not a university," he said.
Other   officials   also   agreed
Time mag
price scam
on again
Monday that Dailly's announcement is not final.
Universities Council chairman
William Armstrong said "no
decisions have been made on what
structure it (a post-secondary
institution for the interior) will
Yet Dailly's announcement
Thursday went into much detail
about the structure of the new
She said campuses in Nelson,
Thompson-Okanagan, north
central B.C. and northern Vancouver Island would offer third and
fourth-year courses of the new-
Dailly also said NDU would have
a one year transition period until
the university is established in
But Armstrong said there has
been no decision to make NDU and
the other interior campuses independent of the coastal universities.
He said it would be less expensive for the established
universities to offer degrees in the
interior than for an autonomous
fourth university to develop a new
"'Nothing says the university
can't contract courses in the interior,"   Armstrong   said.    "The
A mysterious company is again
offering UBC students subscriptions to Time magazine — at
erroneous "special student rates"
— for the second year in a row.
The reply coupons have been
placed on lecture hall desks and in
poster displays, but the advertised
rates are as much as $1.50 a year
lower than the actual rates
charged to students who fill out the
According to the cards, rates are
$7.50for one year of Time and $3.75
for 25 weeks of the magazine.
But a spokeswoman for Time in
Vancouver said Monday the
correct student rate remains at $9
a year.
And students who fill out the
forms will be charged the current
$9 yearly rate or $4.27 for 25 week
The subscription cards are
handled by a local marketing firm
that deals directly with Time
headquarters in New York. The
distributor for Vancouver is a
company called New Design
Market System.
"Darn those people," said the
Time spokeswoman when she was
told the cards are again being
distributed on campus, "I thought-
it was all straightened up last
She said New Design may still be
using "a whole lot" of subscription
cards that are several years old.
When the same out-of-date
coupons were distributed last year,
another Time spokesman said the
old subscription cards "should
have been destroyed long ago."
No phone listing for New Design
exists in Vancouver. Prospective
subscribers are directed to send
the reply cards to a post office box
Last year, checks with the post
office, the Better Business Bureau
and city of Vancouver licensing
authorities failed to turn up any
trace of the distributors.
And, at that time, Time staffers
in Vancouver said they could only
reach the firm through a box-
number address.
The spokeswoman said Monday
she will check again with New
York to find out why the cards are
still being distributed.
Vol. LV1I, No. 29       VANCOUVER, B.C., TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1975
campuses could provide a channel
for university courses."
Armstrong emphasized the
universities council has not
decided to endorse a new
A council planning committee
will decide whether interior
campuses should offer an interior
university degree or offer degrees
from the established universities,
he said.
"If you set up a new provincial
university, no one will know what it
is and this is one of the advantages
of university delivery (better
known degrees)."
The Universities Council will
continue to negotiate with the
Administration presidents of UBC,
Simon Fraser University and the
See page 2: ENTHUSIASM
TRUE   BARGAINS  offered  at UBC bookstore sale in Brock Hall
attract few buyers as shoppers discover most books are of variety that
—matt king photo
will only be read once — by typesetters that print them. This year's
sale  is  having  problems soliciting crowds1. (Story, P. 3.)
Why is Trident protest week needed ?
What is Trident? Why is UBC
holding Trident concern week from
Nov. 24 to 29?
Trident is a nuclear submarine
base currently being built in
Bangor, Washington, 100 miles
south of Vancouver. The U.S. navy
plans to have the base completed
by 1978.
Ten monster submarines — each
one four stories high and 550 feet
long — will operate from the base.
They will be equipped with the
most effective, and therefore
potentially the most deadly,
nuclear warheads yet devised.
Each submarine will carry two
nuclear reactors and 408 separate
nuclear warheads.
Some of these warheads, called
Manoeuverable Re-entry Vehicles
or MARVs, contain devices which
enable them to avoid defensive
anti-ballistic missiles and then
return to their original path.
Thus they can avoid any defence
system employed against nuclear
weapons and go straight to their
The MARVs will be used with
another type of missile, the
Multiple Independantly guided Reentry Vehicles (MIRVs).
Each sub will carry 24 of these
combined missiles. Each missile
will have multiple warheads, so
each sub will have the ability to
strike 408 different targets.
Without interception.
And they can reach their targets
from a distance of 6,000 miles,
which means they can hit targets
in the U.S.S.R. or mainland China
from their home base in Bangor —
as well as from any area in the
Pacific where a sub might be
Despite U.S. defense department
statements to the contrary, these
machines are not defensive
weapons. They are first-strike
offensive weapons.
The U.S. claims to need massive
stock-piles of nuclear weapons as a
"deterrent" to possible attack
from the U.S.S.R. or China.
So they have amassed enough
nuclear weapons to destroy the
U.S.S.R.'s urban and industrial
areas 34 times — the famous and
futile "over-kill" — while the
U.S.S.R. has the armaments to
destroy the U.S. 13 times.
But these new weapons cannot
only demolish the U.S.S.R., they
can avoid anti-ballistic missiles
and blow up underground missile
"silos", thus preventing any
retaliatory attack.
This is possible because the
missiles are more accurate than
their predecessors, which could
only strike within 50 miles of their
Surely the ability to completely
destroy the enemy cannot be
regarded as defensive, or as a
necessary part of any defense
Whether or not the Trident base
indicates a change in U.S. defense
department policy or not, it
represents a dramatic change in
the U.S.'s nuclear power.
The base changes the balance of
power between countries with
nuclear weapons and will almost
certainly lead to escalation of the
arms race despite the strategic
arms limitation talks.
The Trident base will  be   extremely important to the American
military establishment.   In  fact,
because     of     its     enormous
See page 8: CANADIAN
Vote turnout low
Only 615 students cast ballots on
the first day of the week-long Alma
Mater Society constitution and fee
referenda, but returning officer
Brent Tynan refused to be
discouraged by the comparatively
low turnout.
"There were only two polls
today, and the vote will be a lot
higher Wednesday and Friday,
when we'll have all 10 polls open,"
he said Monday.
Only SUB and Sedgewick library
had polling places Monday.
"A lot of people seemed eager to
be informed," Tynan said. He said
he thought many people are taking
a few days to mull over their
decisions before casting ballots.
"It (the turnout) is pretty good
for the first day," he said.
UBC students are being asked
this week to choose between the
current AMS constitution and a
new constitution which would
decentralize power and money and
include student board and senate
members on council for the first
In addition, the AMS is asking
students to support a $3.50 fee hike,
which would raise the total AMS
fee to $37.50 from the current $34.
Of the $3.50, $3 would offset
administration costs, rising at a
rate of more than 10 per cent a
year, and 50 cents would go to
At least 15 per cent of the student
body — about 3,500 students —
must cast ballots, and vote at least
two-thirds in favor for the constitution referendum to pass.
If the fee increase is to pass, 20
per cent of students — about 4,500
— must vote, and the vote must be
two-thirds in favor of the increase.
Polls are open until Friday. Page 2
Tuesday, November 18, 1975
Enthusiasm disappears
From page 1
University of Victoria about offering degrees in the interior,
Armstrong said.
In Nelson, enthusiasm among
students and faculty at NDU about
Dailly's announcement has begun
to subside.
The NDU student union external
affairs officer said Monday
Dailly's announcement reveals
nothing but the one year extension
of NDU's existence as an institution.
James Onyeziri said the announcement is "just a pat on the
shoulder to keep us quiet."
"There is no firm indication on
the part of the provincial government to establish a fourth
autonomous university here.
"This is not what we have been
fighting for," he said.
"There is no indication NDU will
not go back to the problems it has
been facing."
Onyeziri said NDU, if it becomes
part of a new university, should
flogs oil
Standard Oil of Indiana has
developed the first successful food
product derived from petroleum.
The product, called Torula
Yeast, is grown in indoor tanks,
where it lives on ethyl alcohol, a
The yeast is a nutty-tasting tan
powder which contains twice as
much protein as cooked beef.
Standard claims the yeast may
help underdeveloped nations feed
their hungry populations, since
yeast production can equal cattle
beef production with a far lower
expenditure of energy and labour.
Currently, the yeast is used as a
nutritional supplement and flavor-
enhancer in processed foods.
The big oil company expects that
the new food product "could be a
major business for us," by the end
of this century.
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have the power to plan its own
curriculum and grant its own
Students and faculty at NDU
have repeatedly said they are
more competent to plan courses for
an interior campus than academic
planners in distant Vancouver and
"We are not relenting our efforts
to see a firm commitment is made
by the education department to
follow through on the announcement," Onyeziri said.
Soles said he agrees with the
NDU faculty and students that the
Nelson campus should be independent of coastal universities.
He said the education department
should establish a fourth university
independent of the established ones
to offer degrees in the interior.
"What I would favor is that a
fourth public university be
established, in every sense of the
word, with the ability to contract
courses from other universities."
The new university should offer
its own degrees, but retain the
ability to offer courses from the
established universities, Soles
But he said the education
department must await the
recommendations of the
Universities Council before
deciding whether to go ahead with
new university.
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Delegate   at   recent   U.N.   Conference   on  the  New   Economic
Order, speaks on:
With a Film:
THURS., NOV. 20 - SUB 212
12:30   and
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hair studio inc.
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November 29th
-fiction, nonfiction, best sellers,classics,art & cookbooks,
text books, children's books - hard covers & paperbacks
shop early -a great opportunity to buy Christmas presents
Monday thru Friday 9 a.m.-9 p.m.
Saturday 9a.m.~5p.m.
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Page 3
SUB crafts people face boot
The SUB management committee wants to reverse its policy
of allowing local crafts people to
market their goods in SUB space.
The decision came at a committee policy meeting Monday,
and must be ratified by Alma
Mater Society council.
AMS co-ordinator Nadine McDonnell, a committee member,
said Monday vendors will have an
opportunity to present their views
before any final decision is made.
She said the committee decision
will be presented to AMS council
for discussion either Wednesday or
next week.
In a statement issued after the
meeting the committee said
"vendors should not be permitted
to operate in the main concourse of
SUB. Such vendors would be
welcome to sell their crafts
through the AMS co-operative
store in the SUB basement."
McDonnell said the considerations leading to the decision
• limited space, which requires
controls because of fire marshall
• the illegality of vending
operations because most vendors
haven't bothered to get the
required $10 licence;
• the AMS co-op bookstore is
running at a loss;
• dissatisfied customers direct
their hostility towards the AMS;
• that students subsidize the
vendors by supplying heat and
light and other overhead costs;
• and few of the craft vendors
are students.
McDonnell said the only positive
aspect of the vendors is that they
make individual students happy.
She added that the committee's
decision may create a student
She said an option to having the
craftspeople sell their wares in the
co-op bookstore might be to
provide them with a separate
room, as removed from the
mainstream of student traffic as is
the AMS basement store.
The committee wants to avoid a
system of rents and leases, McDonnell said, because such a
system would create legal hassles.
Earlier, co-op bookstore
manager Marian Foster said the
basement store is in danger of
closing because of financial difficulties.
Foster said in an interview
Thursday the shop is losing
business because of stiff competition from the craft vendors
She said the bookstore cannot
compete with the craft tables
because they enjoy a prime
location and have no overhead to
pay for.
"We have bookkeeping and staff
to pay for while the upstairs people
have neither. We just can't
compete," she said.
The AMS employs one full-time
person as manager and several
students on a part-time basis to run
the operation, Foster said.
"But, because of budgetary
problems, we've had to make
cutbacksJn our staffing," she said.
Half the students originally employed last fall to staff the co
operative effort have had to be laid
off, she added.
The bookstore and craft shop
opened in the SUB basement five
years ago in an effort to offer
students cheap second-hand textbooks and an opportunity to
sample the products of local and
student craftsmen.
Originally, bookstore operating
costs were offset by returns on
book sales, Foster said.
However, craft sales have
become the main means of
financial suppgrt for the operation,
Foster said.
"At certain times of the year,
like September and October, we
rely on book sales to keep us going.
"But for the other 10 months of
the year it's the sale of crafts
which keeps us afloat," Foster
However, the shop cannot
continue without the contribution
of both areas, she said.
An alternative to the present setup, Foster said would be to either
bring the table merchants
downstairs to the bookstore or
conversely to move the cooperative upstairs where it could
fairly compete with the tables for
CRAFTY TABLES, located in SUBmain foyer, are raising ire of
downstairs Alma Mater Society co-op bookstore. Latter claims wares
sold at tables are taking away business from AMS operation and will
—candy matwiv photo
be gratified by competition-killing move of SUB management
committee Monday that would remove tables from SUB if decision is
ratified by council.
AUCE hopes for November contract
A spokeswoman for UBC's
unionized library and clerical
workers said Monday she thinks a
new contract may be signed by the
end of this month.
Dale McAslan said negotiations
between local 1 of the Association
of University and College Employees and UBC's administration
have been proceeding slowly.
"But I hope we will have the
contract signed by the end of the
month," she said.
AUCE has been negotiating a
new    contract    with    the    ad-
Brock Hall booksales
drop, weather blamed
The book sale currently underway in Brock Hall is meeting
with limited success, bookstore
manager Don Donovan said
Donovan said figures show the
event has had a smaller turnout
than last year and sales are down
as a result.
"The sale has been a little
disappointing this time and things
have not gone as well as expected," said Donovan.
He blamed the poor turnout on
the weather, saying rain has kept
away prospective buyers.
Donovan discounted suggestions
that the sale offers no real
He said discounts range "from 25
to 80 or 90 per cent" depending on
the book and publisher.
Most shoppers surveyed at
random Monday said the bookstore
is offering bargains at the sale.
One student said the sale has
good prices on art books. He said
he had spent $125 at the sale but
considered he had made a saving.
Two other customers said the
sale offered financial bargains on
art sketches and prints.
Both said it was an ideal place
for Christmas shopping.
Another shopper said the sale
offers a good opportunity to buy
"gag gifts."
Donovan said that as the sale
approaches its Nov. 29 conclusion,
remaining books will beoffered at
"special" prices.
Stock remaining after the closing
date will be "boxed up for next
year," Donovan said.
ministration since early September. Their old contract expired
Sept. 30.
Nancy Wiggs, another union
spokeswoman, said Monday the
union will have a special membership meeting Thursday, but
would not disclose what will be
discussed at the meeting.
However, she said: "We haven't
even been able to settle non-money
things, and I think the members
are getting pretty tired of being
told that nothing is happening."
McAslan said AUCE does not
think it comes under the wage
controls imposed recently by the
federal government.
"Negotiations will proceed as if
we aren't covered," she said.
The union rejected an administration offer of a 19 per cent
wage increase shortly before the
federal government announced an
eight to 12 per cent wage hike
McAslan said mediator Ed Sims'
presence in negotiations has
helped in matters of "common
union practice" such as the dispute
over whether AUCE should con-
TB test here
Students can be tested for
tuberculosis this week and next at
Operation Health, a mobile testing
The clinic, located on the SUB
traffic circle, is open Monday to
Wednesday for tuberculin skin
tests and Thursdays and Fridays
for reaction readings and x-rays.
Hours are 9:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.
and noon to 4:30 p.mi. The clinic is
free and students, comsumptive or
otherwise, are urged to attend.
tinue to operate as a closed shop or
a Rand formula system.
AUCE currently operates as a
closed shop, where all employees
' must be union members.
The administration had wanted
to impose a Rand formula system,
where employees must pay union
dues but not be obligated to belong
the union.
Grits groping for
new candidates
A nomination meeting which was
to have chosen a Liberal candidate
for the Vancouver Point Grey
riding in the Dec. 11 provincial
election was postponed Monday
without warning  or  explanation.
The meeting was to have been
held at Magee Secondary School.
But a Ubyssey reporter arrived
Bomb film
A film and tape depicting the
aftermath and sounds of nuclear
war, will be shown at noon Thursday to prepare the campus
community for next week's Trident
Concern Week.
The Wargame, which depicts the
aftermath of a nuclear war, was
commissioned by the British
Broadcasting Corporation but
when the film was ready to be
shown, BBC officials said it
couldn't go ahead because it was
too terrifying for television.
A 15-minute music tape called
Threnody, a reaction in sound to
the threat of nuclear war, will also
be presented at noon Thursday in
SUB auditorium.
The Wargame and Threnody will
be presented again Monday as part
of Trident Week, Nov. 24-28.
to find doors locked and a small
crowd standing on the steps in
A janitor at the school said he
had received a telephone call only
an hour before saying the meeting
had been postponed.
Liberal party headquarters in
Vancouver could give no explanation Monday night as to
why the meeting had been postponed.
A party spokesman said the new
date for the meeting is Nov. 20 and
is to be held at Our Lady of Perpetual Help, 2465 Crown.
The need for a Liberal
nomination arose when Liberal
MLA's Pat McGeer and Garde
Gardom quit the party to join the
Social Credit party in September.
Sorry, pool
It was incorrectly stated in
Thursday's Ubyssey that Empire
Pool is being demolished to make
way for the new aquatic centre.
The Ubyssey has since learned
that the pool will remain and would
like to apologize for any embarrassment this statement
caused Empire Pool. Page 4
Tuesday, November 18, 1975
NDU crumbs
phoney baloney
That is the only way to describe education minister Eileen
Dailly's recent announcement of a new public university for
Despite all the fanfare and drama of the announcement,
there may never be a fourth university.
Dailly's cynicism is amazing.
On the eve of an election she announces a new university.
But in reality the decision has never been made.
A fourth university still remains just one of several ideas
being studied for post-secondary education in the interior.
Dailly reveals her love of power by this crass political
She also reveals her great desire to silence dissenters at
Notre Dame University in Nelson, angered by her
department's arbitrary approach to the future of the Nelson
The government does not like noisy criticism; especially
at election time.
So with a great flourish of her royal hand, Queen Eileen
tosses a crumb to the folks in Nelson. It turns out even the
crumb is fake.
Dailly's cynicism will make it hard for anyone to believe
her in the future. But it is doubtful whether Dailly cares
about her credibility in Nelson. She is obviously more
concerned with her image with the electorate.
People in'the interior have already waited too long for a
post-secondary education policy.
It's time for Dailly to make a real decision to create a new
university. These false, empty promises will satisfy no one.
The question of my attendance at
the fourth annual conference of
women in colleges and universities
appears to be exciting much
controversy after the fact. I am
rather surprised at this since then
acting external affairs officer
Janet Neilson reported I was going
to the conference several weeks
before hand.
In a written report to students'
council I too mentioned that I was
planning to attend the conference
and Arlene Francis specifically
asked me about it after council. At
that time I understood that council
had already ratified my going,
along with delegates for the NUS
conference which was discussed at
the same time. This later proved
Arlene had plenty of opportunity
to question my going before the
conference. I find it most peculiar
that she waited until after the
conference was over and I'd
returned to start asking questions.
After I lost the election I no
longer sat on council and therefore
stopped attending council
meetings. It seemed probable to
me that I would not be able to attend the conference as I no longer
reported to council. However, I
talked to Dave Theessen, former
AMS treasurer, and he said he
would bring the matter up (I
assumed he meant on council, but
this was incorrect).
The night it was to be discussed I
was in the building working on a
housing proposal. During that time
Stewart Savard stopped in at
council to check with Dave. He was
told that I had been passed by an
executive meeting and that this
was sufficient for me to go. So I
It should also be pointed out that
while I was in office I attempted to
find the funding for a second
woman who had been invited to
attend as a resource person. I also
contacted a representative from
the Women's Office (after a
discussion with Arlene) who said
they were trying to find money but
who did not approach the AMS for
.assistance, nor did she ask my
help. Due to the postal strike and
time constraints the second woman
was unable to attend. In spite of the
fact that at the last minute travel
grants were also made available it
seems the Women's Office couldn't
send a delegate.
I think this whole mess indicates
that there is-a great deal of confusion about the correct procedure
for choosing conference delegates.
I have heard two different stories
from council members like Arlene
and executive members like Dave.
It seems to me this is a result of
individual council members
becoming as concerned and informed about student problems as
executive members are supposed
to be.
In many cases, students from
organizations like the Women's
Office or the Part-Time Students'
Association can offer and benefit
as much from conferences as
council members. The changing
situation requires a more flexible
procedure for choosing delegates
which relies more on qualification
than strictly position and formal
I would not have attended the
conference had I not thought I had
a formal vote of confidence behind
me. However, the confusion
around the whole procedure indicates that something should be
done to clear it up. I'm surprised
that Arlene didn't take the opportunity when it offered itself.
Lake Sagaris
On Nov. 13, one of your reporters
telephoned me to ask my opinion of
Michael Shaw, UBC administration vice-president.
Presumably, since I had worked
for him while he was dean of the
faculty of agricultural sciences, I
would have formed some opinion of
him as a person, or an academic,
or an administrator, or as a
combination of all of these. Well, I
had, but my opinions were quite
unsatisfactory to your reporter
because they were not negative.
What is the matter with your
reporters that they must take such
a negative attitude to things?
Where genuine graft or corruption
exists in public institutions, certainly these should be exposed and
here reporters can offer a genuine
public service, if they do their job
right but why look for trouble
where none exists?
Why assume that because a man
has accepted an appointment he
has done so out of some nasty
ulterior motive? Why not take a
positive attitude and ask, what did
this man achieve in his previous
position? What qualities of mind
did he show? Will these qualities be
applicable to his present position
and work to the benefit of this
I think your reporter, having
been unsuccessful in getting a
defamatory reply from me, went
NOVEMBER 18, 1975
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the
university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of
B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the writer and not of the
AMS or the university administration. Member, Canadian
University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly
commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial offices are
located in room 241K of the Student Union Building.
Editorial departments, 228-2301; Sports, 228-2305; Advertising,
228-3977. Editor: Gary Coull
"Freedom for all reporters and sloppy runners," cried Tom "Rhetoric"
Barnes as he drove off in a shiny new car with his wife Nell. "The 'Birds
rugby team gave it to me for making them sound intellectual," he told Carl
Vesterbach, Bob Mostar, Matt King, Doug "Muddy" Field, Peter
Cummings, Phil Smith, Gre'cfg Thompson, Heather Walker. Marcus "Arts 3"
Gee,  Mark  N.  Buckshon, G. x C, Doug "Grump" Rushton, Ralph (Rolf)
Maurer and Sue Vohanka. "So tell Stuart Lyster to go " Barnes was
saying as the car drove off a Point Grey cliff and into the sea. 30.
on his infamous search elsewhere.
But why would I defame Shaw?
Working for Shaw was a mentally
stimulating and liberating experience.
Few of the erudite on this
campus, I fear, would understand
what I mean but if I take any
pleasant memories away with me
after 30 years on this campus as a
slaving utility it will be of my
relationship with the students in
agriculture and with the dean of
the faculty from 1967-1975.
Ann McCullough
alias sarge
anarchist Annie
There was not an "infamous"
search for defamatory comment,
as you imply. Your comments, not
used directly in the story, helped
put Shaw's words in perspective.
Shaw spoke for himself and left
himself open to analysis—M.B.
Fat Dave
In The Ubyssey Nov. 17, there
was space allocated to an article
written by John Haggartt. (Is the
spelling correct?) This article, it
seems to me, demonstrates the
type of thinking that goes into pro
NDP mumbling.
This fellow Haggartt makes a
great deal of the fact that he is
writing about the 'Red horde,'
'gigantic horde,' 'slimy reds,'
'rottenred,' 'red scare,' and so on.
Why is it that socialists delight in
calling  themselves  such   things?
Perhaps it is because their books
are so often in the 'red', honest
mistakes or not. "Remember
Norm Levi's '100 million bugger
up?" Can anybody forget? How
about ICBC? Is this an example of
Dave Barrett's 'by the people, for
the people' type corporation? Is
ICBC making a profit to re-invest
in the company in order to lower
insurance costs, or is the 18 per
cent increase in insurance
premiums an indication of
something otherwise?
About the 'NDP bungling' and
the Haggartts' statement that we
know that some accountants screw
up on cost estimates under the
NDP go to some truly worthwhile
social programs. Who knows? We
know they didn't know they were
$100 million over budget until it
was too late. And who were the
lucky sould who received these
"truly worthwhile" social
Haggartt asks: "What is going
on?" He's right to ask himself that.
It looks as though Mr. Haggartt
wanted to say something about
doomsdayers or oppressive state
socialism vs enlightened free
enterprise, but he got lost in his
attempt. At least he got it right in
saying that "it is incompetent big
government versus the individual."
"Bumbling bureaucrats" is not
only alliteration, but very
descriptive of the present government. Who else would send an
incompetent cabinet minister to
represent B.C. in one of the major
trade centers (London, England)
of the world.
Barrett, according to Haggartt,
made an honest, decisive decision,
"witness the back-to-work order."
Honest, shmonest! Who was it that
said no provincial election until at
least next year, definitely not
before Christmas, and then uses a
tactic such as this in the hope that
it will pull the wool over the eyes of
the electorate and show that he
really does have their interest at
heart. Good ol' fat little Dave.
Russ Millward
arts 4
Thanks for the letter.
Like many people who tear down
the NDP, you fail to offer concrete
alternatives to the current
government — Staff
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SUB 241-K. Tuesday, November 18, 1975
Page 5
Let it
die baby
Vote for the fee increase so the
Alma Mater Society won't go
bankrupt. Well, maybe it wouldn't
be such a bad thing if they did go
bankrupt. They would have to stop
sending their executive members
to expensive holidays (conferences ) back east at our expense.
They wouldn't be able to spend
thousands of our dollars on "invitation only" special events with
free liquor for the guests. Clubs
would be able to operate outside
the bureaucratic shackles of the
AMS for a change.
(Don't be fooled by the 50 cent
bribe to get the club vote.)
The AMS could no longer pour
tens of thousands of dollars into the
opulent offices and high-priced
staff of its ever-expanding
bureaucracy ($3 of the fee increase, or $30,000 is to go for
Decentralization would then be
achieved, and the faculties, clubs,
etc. would be left to run their own
affairs — we may not all agree
with the way the engineers ran
things, but at least they don't cost
us money.
Peter Jordan
grad studies 5
Vote no
UBC students should vote no in
this week's referendum on
proposed Alma Mater Society
constitution changes.
Rather than defending and
promoting student interests as is
maintained by the present AMS
executive which supports the
referendum, the proposed changes
in the constitution run directly
counter to the interests of the
student body on this campus.
Why say this of changes touted
as the most important step forward
since the writing of the present
AMS constitution in 1947?
The problem with the new
constitution is most succinctly put
in the addition which is made to the
"Objects" of the AMS in Section 2
of the proposal, item (c): "To
promote the principle and practise
of student representation at all
levels of decision making at "the
university" and on all agencies or
other bodies which deliberate on
the affairs of its members."
It is this "principle" of the activity of the AMS and the subsequent structural changes which
flow from it that constitute the
major changes and problems of the
new constitution.
It is not in the interests of
students to accept this "principle"
of participation on the administrative bodies of the
university, or, worse, to accept
that the activities and
deliberations of the board of
governors and the senate provide
the framework for the existence
and activities of the student union
at UBC.
The UBC administration has
nothing in common with the
students at this university. The
administration operates in the
interests (and the pay) of the
education department and is
immediately subject to the fiscal
and legislative policies of the
provincial government. When the
government cuts its education
spending the administration
"administers" those cuts, which
means cuts in the quality of
That is exactly what Dailly's 15
per cent ceiling on budget increases is going to mean over the
next year at universities across the
province. And you can be sure that
the administration at UBC, whose
main interest is keeping their jobs,
will administer this attack on
education in the same manner as
their cohorts in the administrations at the community
colleges across the province have
done this year.
And cuts in education spending
always means cuts in enrolment,
discriminatory policies as to who
should and who should not have
access to a university education.
Hence already this year we have
the great debate over English
language requirements of UBC
students and whether or not to
introduce entrance exams as a
requirement for admission to the
In other words, who is it that the
administration has its eyes on to
hit first when it comes to cutting
enrolment? The immigrant
students. That is exactly who got
cut first at the community colleges
this fall — the immigrant students
in the English language training
On this and all other issues on
campus, issues of democratic
rights, of extending the quality and
availability of university education
to all working people in B.C. — on
these issues the administration
stands on the other side of the
fence. We students cannot afford
the pretence of sitting on the fence,
making representations to these
administrative bodies in the hopes
that somehow we can "change
their heads" and make them see it
our way. They will not defend us,
they would lose their jobs.
What students need to defend
their interests and to organize their
activities is a strong and
democratic AMS independent of all
administrative bodies.
The present AMS executive
motivates their proposed changes
by arguing that participation on
the administrative bodies would
bring students into open "conflict"
with the administration and would
thus stimulate more political involvement of students in university
affairs, rendering the AMS a more
"relevant" body. These sentiments
might be alright but the proposal is
all wrong.
Sure students have an interest in
knowing what goes on in the
meetings of the administration.
Sure, finding out what the board of
governors is up to would open up
the eyes of a lot of students to the
need to organize in defense of their
own interests. But the way of
achieving that is not by attempting
to get a "representative voice"
heard in these meetings of the
administration and in getting all
bogged down in the bureaucratic
functioning of that body.
Rather, we should use the independent strength of a student
union to force the administration to
open its books, to publish the
minutes of all its meetings, and to
deny them any special "in
camera" sessions Students need
their own organization, "no strings
attached," in which to discuss how
best to take on the administration
in the interests of students.
This is what the students at the
community colleges found this
year in defending themselves from
the cuts in education spending. In
the process of fighting those cuts,
students at the Vancouver
Vocational Institute and BCVS
have organized to set up student
unions for the first time.
The old AMS constitution suffers
many problems, but it should be
maintained over this present
proposal because it is based in the
principle of student organization
independent of administrative
structures. Once we have defeated
this proposed change we should set
ourselves the task of rewriting the
old'constitution on the basis of that
principle which it defends.
One of the first things we should
do is to democratize the old constitution — get rid of some of the
restrictive by-laws with regards to
the rights of political groups on
campus. We should also ensure
that any major changes in the
constitution, such as those that are
being proposed, have to come to a
general assembly of all students
for discussion and debate before
being put to a vote.
In order to lay the basis for that
kind of discussion of a new constitution for an independent and
democratic student society we
have to defeat the new constitution
at the polls this week. Students
should get out and vote, and they
should vote NO.
Marg Manwaring
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In the past few weeks, the
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of the drafting of a new constitution
for the student government of
UBC. From Nov. 17 to 21 there will
be an election, which, given the
current state of ignorance of the
student body concerning this
document, will almost certainly
assure its implementation.
The current AMS wants you to
vote YES. But, I believe that if
those of us who pay through the
nose for the questionable privilege
of membership in the AMS fully
realized the consequences of such a
vote, they would more likely vote
In general, the new constitution
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is fairly commendable. In that
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■ But, the same cannot be said for
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what would be possibly the single
most influential executive body on
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the SUB and everything in it includes daily a large percentage of
the university community.
To quote the yellow legal-size
blurb posted all over campus, "The
members of SAC will be students
who have been appointed by the
assembly (SRA) for their experience in clubs and undergraduate societies, and for
their   management   experience."
If ever a legal document had a
built-in structure of patronage and
corruption, without the safeguards
of checks and balances, this is it.
Assuming realistically that the two
appointed positions would be filled
by friends, it would be naive to
expect that they would necessarily
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Tuesday, November 18, 1975
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Wanna kill two birds, so to
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same time?
Hot flashes
Well, while you're casting your
vote for the constitution and fee
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at various polling stations across
campus, you can sign the
Twenty-fifth Avenue crosstown
bus petition at the same time.
Petitions will be available at all
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General meeting, noon, SUB 117.
Film and discussion on South African apartheid, Last Grave at Dim-
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Pag« 7
Rugger win hides class struggle
In an effort to appease such
critics of The Ubyssey sports staff
as Stu Lyster, political science
graduate and law student Bob
Mostar have been enlisted to add a
more meaningful political angle to
our sports writing.
In the Nov. 13 issue of The
Ubyssey, Mr. Lyster, in a letter to
the editor, stated that sports
writing in the paper was useless.
Such traditional writing presented
a political dichotomy in the paper.
In another letter in the same issue
Hugh Laidlaw defined the political
stance of the rest of the paper as
"somewhat to the left of Joseph
Mr. Lyster's criticisms have
been    echoed    by    some    staff
members, so we present the
political sports article.
Six penalty kicks by UBC's
counter-revolutionary scrum half
Preston Wiley lifted the Thunderbird rugby team to an 18-16
victory over the Meralomas.
The international imperialist
plot to run the working class
members of the proletarian scrum
into the ground was much in
evidence as the bourgeois back-
field, lead by that running dog
lackey of capitalism John
Billingsley, were content to kick
the ball back and forth. Such
strategy was designed to force our
downtrodden comrades of the pack
to run their exploited legs off.
It has long been known that the
cunning bourgeois backs have
attained their fame and glory in
the crazed eyes of the capitalistic
world by exploiting the proletariat
scrum. How could the 'Birds
demonstrate their fancy glory-
seeking running attack if the
scrum didn't get them the ball?
The people's revolution will
come when the proletariat scrum
breaks free of the oppressive
running dog lackies of the back-
field who prosper on the fruits of
the workers' labor.
One need only observe the
makings of a scrum to see just how
oppressed our comrade on the
rugger pitch are. The workers are
forced to bend down, clambering
on each other's backs, and ram
their heads into the heads of the
other team's own oppressed
workers. In the meantime the
capitalist backs stand by, observing the writhings of the
working class.
Puck 'Birds start by losing two
The Thunderbird hockey team
had no trouble losing two games to
the University of Alberta Golden
Bears, playing their worst games
The 'Birds played Friday and
Saturday night and lost 6-3 and 4-0.
The game on Friday was tied
three all going into the last five
minutes of the game. The 'Birds
collapsed, and Alberta notched
three straight goals.
In the Saturday game, UBC was
never in it. Both teams started
slowly in the first period, tired
after the Friday match. Neither
dominated play. The 'Birds outshot
Alberta, but most of their efforts
were weak. The Bears attack
obliged UBC goalie Ron Lefebvre
to come up with some big saves.
In the second period, the Bears
began to take advantage of UBC's
inept play. The 'Bird defence got
caught in the offensive end twice
and gave up two goals. Lefebvre
stopped the initial shot both times
but was beaten on the rebound.
The Thunderbird volleyball team
took two wins in B.C. Senior Men's
play by beating Richmond and the
University of Victoria Vikings
Sunday. The 'Birds also play in the
Canada West league, where they
have won their first two matches.
It looks like they will be the team to
beat in both leagues.
* * *
Seven members of the UBC
Thunderbird football team have
been elected to the Western Intercollegiate Football League
allstar team.
Gord Penn, the fullback who
became the first UBC player to
ever gain more than 1,000 yards in
a season, led the way. Penn
finished third in league rushing
with 789 yards, and rushed for the
balance in non-conference games.
Three other 'Birds were named
to the offensive team: Dan Smith
at quarterback, tight end Evan
Jones, and tackle Al Cameron.
Smith was second in league
passing. Jones was second among
league receivers.
Safety Vic Wasilenko, middle
linebacker Marsh MacLeod, and
end John Turecki were named to
the defensive team.
It marks the first time in two
years that UBC has had anyone
named to the team.
# # #
UBC's basketball teams both lost
to Alberta on the weekend. The
'Birds dropped 58-57 and 77-56
decisions in contests marked by
bad UBC shooting. The Thunderettes showed early season
inexperience, succumbing 59-43
and 56-43 to the Pandas.
UBC skated as well as the Bears,
but that's as far as it went. They
had trouble passing, shooting, and
took silly penalties. In the third
period, the 'Birds were short-
handed 16 minutes out of the 20.
The reason for UBC's bad play is
the lack of competition Alberta has
played games against the
universities of Denver and
Toronto. The 'Birds have played
Powell River and the North Shore
Hurry Kings.
Over the Christmas break, the
Bears will play 14 games, the
'Birds none. UBC coach Bob
Hindmarch feels that for the team
to do well the Men's Athletic
Association will have to increase
the team's budget.
As it is, the 'Birds will have to
wait until after the holidays to play
the Bears again. Hindmarch said
he doesn't think the Bears can play
as well as they did all season, so
the 'Birds might fare better in the
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The key to the oppression is the
scrum half who treacherously
destroys any unity developing
between the two working class
groups by throwing the ball in for
them to fight over.
In Saturday's match against the
'Lomas, this diabolical plot was
spiced up by the continued kicking
of the backfield. The workers were
forced to continually run up and
down, form rucks, mauls and
lineouts only to get the ball to the
backs who would then kick it once
The bourgeois Wiley opened the
scoring with a penalty goal at five
minutes to set up a short 3-0 lead. A
pressing 'Lomas side gamely
fought back and took a 7-0 lead.
Shortly before the half comrade
Frank Carson and comrade Dave
Eburne moved the ball up field
with a brief display of UBC's
running. An obstruction call on one
of the 'Lomas capitalist oppressors
set up another penalty goal by the
people's manipulator Wiley.
The diminutive enemy of the
masses added four more penalty
kicks in the second half.
The 'Lomas bourgeois continued
to hang up close to the 'Bird oppressors   Of   the   people   and
prevented an establishment of the
running game. When there were
brief flurries of running demonstrated by the 'Birds it was by a
member of the working class.
Second row comrade Ro Hindson
looked as though he might he
kindling an attack, if not the
revolution on a couple of occasions.
These isolated attempts to unshackle the chains of drudgery
were foiled by the hard tackling of
the 'Lomas.
It was probably the most boring
game UBC has been involved in for
several seasons. The lack of
running, whether because of fine
play by the opposition or poor
refereeing, is not the sort of offense
that is going to lead the 'Birds to
the counter-revolutionary heights
they attained last year. Such
dismal performances by the back-
field can only hasten the rise of the
workers of the scrum and the long-
awaited revolution.
One pessimistic sign that
emerged from the debacle was
with regard to the state of the
revolution in rugby. For the first
time in almost three years not one
attempt, or try as they are known
in rugby, was recorded by the UBC
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Canadian government ignores implications
From page 1
capabilities, it will be the most
important nuclear base in the
This means, for one thing, that
Soviet vessels will be prowling
around the Strait of Juan de Fuca
to see what the Trident submarines
are up to.
Much more important, it means
that if there should be a war, attacking forces would have to
destroy the Trident base before
they struck anywhere else.
An attack on the base would
mean devastation of the
surrounding area.
And since Soviet missiles are not
yet as accurate as their American
counterparts, there is no guarantee
that the base itself would be hit.
It is quite possible that a bomb
could fall on Vancouver.
And a bomb anywhere in the
area at all would make it
uninhabitable, kill millions of
people, burn thousands of acres,
and spread radiation God know
how far.
Hopefully, there will not be a
nuclear war. But it is both stupid
and immoral to allow something
which could contribute to a. war to
be built in the immediate area
without even protesting it.
Women outrun men
— The popular movie Alice Doesn't
Live Here Anymore, the adventures of a woman who runs
away from her conventional role as
a wife and mother, has sparked
interest in a modern real-life
phenomenon — runaway wives.
Fifteen years ago, runaway
husbands outnumbered runaway
wives 300 to one. But in today's
more liberated atmosphere, twice
as many women desert their
homes as men, according to the
Wall Street Journal.
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be filled by friends with either
experience or management expertise.
Representative government is
rarely very representative at best.
Yet in Canada, cabinet ministers
are elected MPs and a U.S.
secretary must be confirmed by
However at UBC we're supposed
to buy a system which in form, as
well as inevitably in practice,
allows people whom the students
have had no opportunity to choose
play with our money, money which
we had no choice in paying.
It is degrading enough that we
have little say in the academic
sphere, but when we deliberately
set up a group of peers who can
then deny any responsibility to us,
we are asking for trouble.
I therefore strongly suggest a
negative vote in the referendum,
and suggest a careful revision of
the constitution to ensure that we
make it better than the last one, not
Brian Ferstman
poli sci 3
According to Ed Goldfader,
president of Tracers Company of
America, an investigative agency
specializing in missing persons,
most of these women are running
away from someone, not to
someone. The typical runaway
wife, he says, has been married for
more than 10 years and feels
abandoned by her grown children.
Ice Cream
Where ?
So far the Canadian government
has displayed a complete lack of
concern over the Trident base.
External affairs minister Allan
MacEachen has said, in faithful
reproduction of Pentagon
propaganda, that Trident is meant
"only as a deterrent" and is a
"positive step towards nuclear
arms control."
Trident concern week is an attempt to make people in Vancouver are of the base and its
implications. Itis sponsored jointly
by the Pacific Life Community and
the Alma Mater Society.
The Pacific Life Community is a
pacifist group headed by Jim
Douglass, author of two books on
non-violent protest. The group was
founded in January, 1975.
The aim of the group, according
to member Shelley Douglass, is to
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"learn how to live non-violently,
both personally and  politically."
They decided to protest Trident
specifically because it is "an obvious, overt form of violence in the
immediate vicinity," Douglass
After Trident concern week at
UBC, the group plans to travel to
Ottawa and protest Trident to the
federal government.
They will talk about the base to
people in Edmonton, Calgary and
Toronto on the way. On reaching
Ottawa they will present a petition
protesting Trident to the federal
government. The petition will be
circulated at UBC next week.
NOV. 21, 1975, 8 PM.
Meditation Intensive — Nov. 22-23,
9 a.m.-10:30 p.m.
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