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Jt Frolicking since 1918      Vancouver, B.C., Tuesday, November 19, 1991
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Vol 74, No 21
Student input
sought on hiring
by Sharon Lindores
The groundwork has been set
for student participation in appointment decisions concerning
professors, following a Senate vote
* last Wednesday.
An ad hoc committee was set
uplast year to review Senate guidelines which barred student participation in department decision
making on professorial appointments, promotion and tenure. Its
r proposal modified Principle 3, which
had been adoptedby Senate in 1973.
One motion read "We further
move that students, in particular
graduate or senior majors/honours
students, be permitted to participate alongside faculty members on
Search Committees, and wherever
* relevant, in appointment decisions
as well."
Committee chair Dr. Philip
Resnick said, "Honestly I feel quite
pleased about the recommendations. When the motion was put
forward a year ago at Senate there
. was debate and a division of opinion, there was strong opposition to
opening the question."
"It has taken 18 years to get
this relatively modest change
through. A number of senators
spoke on why other matters were
not addressed, such as budget,
salaries and the mark appeal committee. There might, in the future,
be motions to remove restrictions.
"Promotion and tenure are very
questionable. This is a significant
change, probably as much as is
possible now," Resnick said.
In the current Faculty Agreement, only faculty of equivalent
■ status may participate in these
matters. The committee's report
said "If the Faculty Agreement
eventually were to be changed to
L provide for participation by faculty,
regardless of rank, in re-appoint-
*• ment, promotion and tenure deci-
1 sions, then members of our commit-
f*r'    tee who support more extensive
student participation wouldrecom-
mend to a future Senate that it look
into these areas anew."
Professor Bill Cullen, Faculty
Association Executive, said "There
is some role where students might
be involved in the process, for example if students in the department attended a lecture, it might
be useful.
"As for a major role, beyond
that you would have to wait and
see. We are concerned with confidentiality and the number of students who would be involved in
such a process," Cullen said.
Student senator and committee member Orvin Lau said, "Just
because you are a faculty member
does not make you any better at
keeping secrets.
"Realistically speaking, we
went as far as we could on the
committee. I pushed for an open
process entirely to students, there
was a great deal of resistance, especially with the Faculty Association.
"Students are in a position of
weaknessin Senate,itis dominated
by faculty members. In the end it is
really a losing battle," Lau said.
Lau is pleased with the
progress, although he would like to
see more done in the future. "Ideally
Fd like to see reappointment, appointment, promotion and tenure
opened up to students," he said.
Jason Brett, AMS president,
said, "Generally I think ifs a start.
They went as far as they could,
given Faculty Handbook regulations. Perhaps in the future we will
see even more willingness to accept
student involvement in promotion
and tenure decisions.
Most Canadian universities
have policies similar to UBC's. According to the committee's report,
student representatives are involved in decision-making with appointments, promotion and tenure
at some universities, such as
Western Ontario and Carleton.
Referendum results
by Johanna Wickie
The unofficial results of
the 1991 AMS referendum are
in. The referendum, which
was held the first week of November, has proved to be a
partial success.
The first of two questions
on the ballot, which proposed
a $15 fee levy to fund the
Ombudsoffice, AMS Programs, AMS Bursaries and
Emergency Loans and the
WUSC Refugee Fund failed
by 32 votes.
The second question, to
alter the mandate of the
Capital Project Acquisition
Fee, has been approved with a
comfortable margin. The AMS
will now be able to go ahead
with the Pit expansion, SUB
renovations, Whistler Cabin
renovations and a replacement for the Armories which
is due to be torn down.
Quorum was calculated by
the SAC Elections Commissioner at 2874 students voting
either for or against a proposed referendum question.
The breakdown of the
numbers is as follows:
Question 1 yes 2842
no 2144
Question 2 yes 3371
no 1599
The referendum committee, which was responsible for
advertisingand promoting the
campaign, spent approximately $4,500 on pens, t-
shirts, posters, pamphlets and
When asked if he was satisfied with the results, Jason
Brett, AMS president and
committee chair replied;
Ubyssey photographer discovers that some drivers have absolutely
no respect for pedestrians.
Video gives UBC passing grade
by Rick Hiebert
A new Canadian video guide
to universities says the best feature
of UBC is Vancouver's weather.
Despite several negative
comments, "Linda Frum's Video
Guide To Canadian Universities"
appears to argue that UBC is one
of Canada's better ones.
The video, produced by an
Ontario film company, profiles ten
Canadian universities, including
UBC. It is going into general release this month.
Interviews with students and
faculty reveal positive and negative things about UBC. Narrated
by Toronto writer Linda Frum, the
video profile says UBC:
• is bigger in size than most universities, which leads to students
having to rush from class to class;
• is so big that it can be alienating
to students faced with huge classes
and impersonal bureaucracy;
• has students who are into "pre-
professional disciplines" and work
• has students who are apathetic
about student politics and things
unrelated to their studies;
• due to the age of some facilities,
is "like other Canadian universities, a little scruffy around the
edges"; and
• takes advantage of Vancouver's
climate to offer a "pleasant" place
to go to school.
Fruim wrote a book guide to
Canadian universities in 1987. In
an interview, she said she tried
hard to listen to UBC students and
get across in the video what they
had to say.
"What I was trying to look for
was "What makes UBC better for a
student?1 Not just the same as the
universities of Winnipeg or
Toronto? What makes it unique,
special, what distinguishes it?'"
One thing that strikes Frum
is Vancouver's climate,.
"That is so incredibly unavoidable for someone comingfrom
Eastern Canada," she said.
"Transplanted students kept mentioning it. It is really an advantage, because students tend to
adapt their personalitiesfrom their
environment and the cli mate there
makes UBC a sunnier place than it
would be otherwise."
Frum cites in the video the
increased amount of research at
UBC, though she sees it as not the
best academically.
"UBC is a very good school
and students can get a good education there. Yet, there is no point
bragging about the academic
quality of UBC. This is not because
UBC is a bad school academically,
rather it is because, for whatever
reason, UBC may lack the intellectual rigour that you would find
at say, at King's College [at
Dalhousie]. It appears to be an
atmosphere thing. It is there, or it
UBC students appear to think
the comments in the video are reasonable.
"I agree totally that classes
are too big," said second-year bio
chemistry student Joe Kim. "When
you are in a smaller class, teachers
know you. Ifs easier to work with
them and you aren't tempted to
"I wouldn't say that UBC
students would be grinds, but I
would say thatthey are disciplined.
They know what matters," Kim
said. "The students who are good
know when to study and when to
get out and socialize."
First-year arts student Sini
Erme said Frum's comments on
the alienation that can face students are valid.
"It can be scary when you first
come out. Unless people from your
high school come too, you are kind
of alone a lot the first couple of
months. You spend a lot of time in
the library studying your notes.
... see VIDEO, page 4
... but irks students
by Rick Hiebert
At the University of Toronto,
"nobody cares if you live or die."
UBC is "considered one of
Canada's leading institutes of
higher learning" because it snows
infrequently here.
Comments like these, featured
in the recently-released video,
"Linda Frum's Video Guide to
Canadian Universities," are making some apprehensive.
The film, which entered limited release in March to buyers
from Canadian school boards, is
being pitched to video store chains,
co-producer Tim O'Brien said.
"Most videos on schools are
produced by schools themselves
and are very biased. For prospective university students and their
parents this fills a definite need,"
O'Brien said.
The film profiles UBC, Simon
Fraser University, the University
of Alberta, the University of
Western Ontario, the University
of Toronto, Queen's, McGill,
Acadia, Dalhousie and Memorial
University of Newfoundland.
Student politicians are a little
worried—although apparently
none have seen the video yet—due
to the Toronto writer's 1987 book
on universities.
Linda Frum's Guide to Canadian Universities only appraised
anglophone schools, but it was
condemnedfor some of its negative
Kelly Lamrock, chair of the
Canadian Federation of Students,
said he does not have high expectations.
"If if s anything like her book,
the video is just another piece of
vacuous journalism on colleges
and universities that we don't
need," he said.
"I'd hope that the video's
comments are placed in one context—how good is Canada's educational system and how many
have a chance to use it? If she
answers those questions, great. If
not, ifs a waste," Lamrock said.
The 90-minute video was
funded primarily by grants of
$15,000 from the Ontario Film
Development Corporation and
$30,000 from the Secretary of
State's Department of Communications.
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Tale of the white coat:
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Bank of Montreal
funds anti-choice
VICTORIA (CUP) — Victoria
feminists are urging a boycott of
the Bank of Montreal for providing a credit card which funds an
anti-choice group.
The bank offers an affinity
card, a special MasterCard which
any association can apply for.
Whenever a card holder makes a
purchase using the card, the bank
gives a percentage ofthe total sale
to the organization. Affinity card
users also benefit through a reduced MasterCard interest rate.
The fundraising card was
previously available only to universities, but is now used by 200
organizations, including the anti-
choice group, Alliance for Life, an d
the National Action Committee on
the Status of Women (NAC).
The Victoria Status of
Women Action Group (SWAG) is
urging women to cut up their
MasterCards and mail them back
to the Bank of Montreal, with a
letter of explanation.
"It's basically a boycott. We're
saying take your business elsewhere, and let them know you find
it morally and personally offensive," said SWAGvolunteerMorag
"We're not preventing them
from doing business, just trying to
underline the point to them that
public opinion matters. Would they
have a KKK or an Aryan Nations
card? I don't think so."
But according to John Quinn,
manager of affinity cards for the
Bank of Montreal, the KKK or
Aryan Nations wouldn't qualify
for other reasons.
"A group must have a broad
base of Canadian support and not
be militant in its nature," he said.
He said he didn't know
whether pro-life groups could be
defined as fringe, and he said he
was unfamiliar with polls indicating a majority of Canadians support a woman's right to choose an
Cards are also offered to
groups based on their membership
size, age of the organization and
relative income of the members,
he said. Granting affinity cards
does not mean the group is endorsed by the bank, he added.
Martin disagreed.
"It says on the ad the Bank of
Montreal will donate a percentage
to Alliance for Life," she said. "If
that's not an endorsement, what
is? The bank is seen to be endorsing it."
"That's instant credibility
right there."
NAC vice president Marianne
Alto said the national women's
organization is considering dropping NAC's affinity card.
"What it basically comes down
to is a question of money versus
principles," she said.
Susanne Klausen, a member
of the University of Victoria
women's centre, said the bank
should have guidelines about the
kinds of groups that qualify for the
"Other organizations like
labour groups, environmental
groups, or political groups (who
also have affinity cards) are for
something, but this group is
against women's rights.
"Whether they want to or not,
they are making political choices,"
she said. "Where will they draw
the line?"
Catherine Clark, a UVic student councillor, said she closed her
account at the Bank of Montreal
after she learned about the affinity card.
"Approximately 80 per cent of
bank employees are women. What
kind of respect are they showing
for their employees?" said Clark.
"It was a really bad business
move to even touch the issue- the
majority of the population of
Canada is supposed to be pro-
by Jonathan Wong
In an abandoned cathedral,
four first-year medical school students hover about a makeshift
surgery table to "flatline" a classmate. When his heart stops, they
theorize that he will encounter life
after death; that there is life beyond the flatline.
Despite its plausible consequences and ethic-probing plot,
Flatliners, an often talked about
film in medical schools, paints
faulty portraits of first-year med
students, says William Siu.
"I don't think you'll know
enough about the body i n your first
year to want to flatline yourself,"
says the second-year UBC medical
school student. "You wouldn'tknow
enough about the physiology ofthe
The picture Siu paints of
medical school carries no Hollywood illusion.
Through the emergency corridor of Vancouver General Hospital a line of about two dozen
empty stretchers are parked along
a white wall.
Around the bend, an elevator
leads to the third floor where UBC
medical students take in off-campus lectures.
Siu, an avid reader of medical
journals, lounges in a pool room
after a long 8am to 4:30pm day
which has included ahalf-hour dart
from UBC to VGH. He has
overparked :;n a two-hour parking
slot, but many medical students
like Siu condition themselves early
ontodeal with high levels of stress.
"I've always been interested
in things of medicine ever since I
was a little kid," says Siu, whose
father, a high school principal,
passed away when Siu was four-
years-old. "There's something
noble to helping someone."
Prior to medical school, Siu—
who attained his BSc from UBC in
1990—spent six years in
Vancouver delivering newspapers,
three summers working for a
Vancouver fishery and three summers researching in a UBC chemistry lab.
His widowed mother had
shouldered Siu and his four sisters
financially by working at a
Vancouver fishery.
"I can't say what 111 do eventually in medicine, a lot of people
eventually get burned out," Siu
says. "It can take about 17 years
(of medical work and education) to
become a surgeon."
And it begins quickly with an
eye-opener to the body.
In his first year, Siu worked
weekly in the traditional group of
four studying cadavers.
"We spent eight hours a week
cutting up a person just learning
parts ofthe body," he says.
"We would start by peeling off
the skin, lifting muscles and observing blood vessels and nerves,
doing a different part of the body
each month."
His class of 120 rotated periodically on thirty cadavers.
"It's a special privilege to work
with cadavers, some other universities use pictures," Siu says.
"There's a lot of sacred things
in medicine and this is one of them."
He says only first-year medical students and staff are allowed
to witness the dissection of cadavers.
But jokingly, he adds, cadaver
work is what distinguishes first-
year medical students from others.
"Everyday you go around
smelling like formaldehyde (a
chemical injected into cadavers for
preservation). It's easy to tell who's
a first-year student in Woodward
library because you can smell
Siu prefers his work now.
"This year we get to work with
live people," he says with smile.
But there can be pitfalls. Siu's
most "nervous" experiences occurred last summer when he
tended burn patients.
"It's a bit nerve-wracking because you don't want to hit any
nerves or blood vessels whenyou're
chopping up the skin."
Malpractice is "quite realistic" in the field of medicine and
"we're told about it," he says.
"In the US, gynecologists will
pay about $200,000 U.S. for
medical insurance."
"There are patients who will
sue doctors even though they did
the best they could. It just comes
with the job."
The political tightrope is always there for doctors to walk on,
he says.
In ethics classes, professors
advise medical students to refrain
from close relationships with their
patients, but Siu says it is also
important to interact with them.
"If you don't interact, you're
not goi ng to become a good doctor."
Despite all the pressures involved with medical school, Siu
says managing a clean schedule is
the key to survival.
After a nine-hour day of
classes, Siu studies for four hours
and plays either ice hockey, basketball or soccer for a 10pm wind-
"You don't have to be smart to
be in medical school, that's a myth.
But you can't be stupid. The thing
concentration and hard work. And
that's something that starts in
Spatial micropolitics at work
in Montreal co-operatives
by Carta Maftechuk
Two feminist-inspired housing co-operatives located in
Montreal are the sites of both conflict and security, according to
Giselle Yasmeen, a UBC PhD student, who spoke on the subject last
The co-operatives Tournesoleil
(Sunflower) and Fil d'Ariane
(Threat of Ariane) were originally
created by and for women.
Tournesoleil's members include students, homemakers, social service professionals and artists. The ten-year-old co-op has a
constitutional mandate requiring
at least two-thirds of its members
to be women, "in an effort to support disadvantaged members of
society." Yasmeen said, "In the future, they want to admit more
"Both co-ops were started by
women active in the feminist
movement, and the people who
conceived of those projects wanted
to embody some of the ideals of
feminism in these housing co-ops,"
Yasmeen said.
"There's a discrepancy between how the co-ops were founded
and how they are being experienced
by people who live there now.
"Co-op housing is very important in Montreal, it's quite active
and quite distinctive compared to
the co-op movement in other parts
ofthe country," she said.
The co-ops began primarily for
economic reasons. Women are
better able to afford to support
their families with the cheaper rent
available in a co-operative living
"The big question was economic, andis economic, in terms of
women's problems in the housing
market, but the people who started
these two housing co-ops are very
concerned with the issue of community building. They wanted
some type of supportive environment for women," Yasmeen said.
Fil d'Ariane, opened in 1988,
is exclusively for single parent
families. Currently, the only
members are women. Of 24 families, ten are Haitian immigrants
and 14 consider themselves
Quebecoises. Yasmeen found that
some women experience covert instances of prejudice.
"There is a desire to control
the activities of non-conforming
members within a certain organizational and spatial context; that
is, at general co-op meetings," she
"By far the greatest conflict
has had to do with sexual orientation. Some people feel excluded
because they don't have the same
sexual orientation."
Other problems had to do with
noise and privacy. While Fil
d'Ariane has a common meeting
room for business, the residents of
Tournesoleil met in each other's
apartments and consequently
"have less ability to control interaction."
"In the co-ops I looked at, the
people aren't going as far as to
start sharing absolutely everything. They want to maintain
something of the nuclear family,
which is conservative in the eyes of
many feminists.
"The number one advantage
or benefit is, despite the problems,
the women have a stable living
environment. Many of them seem
to have developed a more positive
self-image, and a desire to go to
school and improve themselves, to
strengthen themselves.
"Women are overwhelmingly
active in the co-op movement at
the grassroots level, compared to
men. It's probably a reflection also
of women as nurturers and who
traditionally care for children, and
also who are increasingly alone
while having to raise children, and
having to find a practical way, an
intelligent way to do it," Yasmeen
"What makes a co-op successful is the clear definition of the
access to spaces."
November 19,1991
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AIDS profiteering
by Martin Chester
sports world still reeling from
Magic Johnson's recent declaration he is HIV-positive, sports
memorabilia traders are profiting
from his misfortune.
On November 7, the star guard
ofthe L.A. Lakers basketball team
announced he had HIV, the virus
thought to cause AIDS. Since then
many traders have jacked up the
prices for his memorabilia.
Rick Baker, co-owner of the
Vancouver trading store High
Five Sports Collectibles, said many
traders have increased the price of
Johnson's cards.
"Some people are taking advantage of the situation," Baker
said. Baker did not increase the
price of his merchandise, and the
cards and other Johnson memorabilia sold out quickly.
The Vancouver Sun reported
the prices of items such as Magic
Johnson jerseys and autographed
sneakers have increased dramatically. People have offered $1,000
for a sneaker valued at $650 prior
to Johnson's announcement.
Baker said the fact that Johnson is HIV-positive and may develop AIDS has affected the prices.
"It's the market, it's what people
do with this game, and it is still a
"I don't like the situation in
the card business. To use it just to
make money isn't fair," he said.
Brian Wait of the Vancouver
Persons with AIDS Soci ety said he
hopes the profiteers make donations to his organization.
He said Johnson will have an
effect on children's understanding
of HIV and AIDS. "All children,
whether they're trading cards or
not, will take more notice of HIV
and AIDS and know it, not just in
the head, but in the heart."
A sports personality such as
Johnson has far more effect on
children than doctors and other
experts, Wait said. "I think kids
will tend to listen to him more."
"I support Magic Johnson in
his efforts and I think what he's
doing is terrific. He needs all the
support he can get," Wait said.
"Anyone with HIV does."
Video rates campuses
... from page 1
But then after you make friends, it
is much better," Erme said.
"It's important that this video
is making good and bad comments
about UBC. You can just go to
school where your friends are going, and then you can realize that
you have spent all that money and
you are miserable. I like UBC a lot,
but I'd like people to know about
UBC before they enroll, so they
can decide better," she said.
AMS president Jason Brett, a
fourth-year engineering student,
said the video's comments sound
"It sounds as if she didn't say
anything particularly off the wall.
I have heard people say those
things before to me," he said.
Brett, a native of Dawson
Creek, said Vancouver's climate is
an advantage for UBC.
"One of the things that I tell
students from other Canadian
universities is 'why are you going
to another university and freezing
your butt off?'" he said.
Students concerned
... frontpage 1
The video focuses on Frum's
interviews with students and their
assessment of their schools.
"I simply asked people questions and let them talk," Frum
said. "The opinions come not so
much from me, but from the people
that I speak to. If I found somebody
who said positive things, I quoted
them. If not, I quoted them too."
"Students are more candid as
there's no way they can be anonymous," she said. "The camera adds
a certain honesty."
The comments about U of T
and UBC were distillations of
things students and faculty told
her, she said.
"A lot of people told us at the
University of Toronto that it can
be a very alienating campus and
that it can be hard, if you don't join
groups or activities, to feel like you
belong. "Nobody cares if you live or
die' is a pithy way to say that."
CFS-BC chair Brad Lavigne
said Frum's focus on student
opinion is a plus.
"Students are in the best position to speak about their institutions. That's definitely one way
that the Frum video is laudable,"
he said.
But he fears the video is not
thorough enough.
"There's a great difference
between what some universities
are trying to do educationally," he
said. "If you ignore some universities, you don't get an accurate feel
in your findings."
Frum, however, said she
wanted to film at more campuses,
but could not due to the video's
small budget.
"We wound up trying to do a
cross-country survey of schools that
most students would travel to go to
school. We were picking universities that we knew most high school
students had heard about and
would be interested in."
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__         _ Thursday, November 21, 6 pm
FIclSll (Student Council Chambers)
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• to foster a greater spirit of unity
and equality on campus;
• to investigate cases where the
rights of UBC students have been
November 19,1991 ii*UU'"'UIUV"UMKI1>UA-<1
Supporters of Pie R Squared present Strangway
with his very own bronzed pizza.
Strangway has no
appetite for pizza
by Frances Foran
AMS representatives delivered a large pizza to president
Strangway last Friday, along with
a 5,000-signature petition in support of an AMS-operated pizza
However, the free delivery will
not likely reverse the deci sion made
by the administration to halt
renovations for the project, dubbed
Pie R Squared.
Strangway was genial with the
AMS reps when they presented
him with the pizza and said, "Ifs a
complexissue and 111 have to think
about it."
However, in a private discussion, Strangway was unequivocal.
"It is already decided and the answer is no," he said.
Strangway said the administration stopped renovations on the
former Travel Cuts space because
subsidizing an AMS service which
i s already offered by the university
would not make economic sense.
Under the AMS' 60-year lease,
the university would be obligated
to cover utility expenses for their
operations in the SUB. Strangway
stressed that the university-run
Subway cafeteria pays its own
utilities and also offers pizza.
"This would not be a trivial
expense," Strangway said. "It
would cost students tens of thousands of dollars which could be
directed elsewhere."
"It is really a subsidy question. The AMS service would be
heavily subsidized and would be in
direct competition with the
university's food services. It would
not be a level playing field for competition."
Strangway also said that while
the space is not slated for any other
businesses, any AMS food service
would constitute unfair competi-
The Force Behind the Dead Kennedys
tion with the university and be
precluded from using the space.
Martin Ertl, AMS director of
administration, does not think the
administration has valid reason to
reject the project on economic
Ertl said that since the prospective pizza place would pay
proportionally higher rent, "it
would be an unfair subsidy, but it
would be unfair in the university's
favour. Basically the administration is trying to bully the AMS.
"If the administration refused
to co-operate with us because there
were technical problems with the
renovation plans that would be
understandable," he said.
Ertl added the Subway pays a
three per cent gross revenue fee to
the university as rent, while under
the 1968 lease agreement, the
prospective pizza place would be
charged nine per cent of gross
revenues to cover management
Ertl said the AMS is especially frustrated that renovations
for the project met initial approval
last month from K.D. Srivastava,
vice-president of student and academic services, on behalf of Campus Planning. Construction was
called off by the administration
without explanation.
Ertl also pointed out that unlike the university-run cafeteria,
the pizza outlet would be staffed
entirely by students whose wages
wouldbe substantially higherthan
Subway's employees.
Strangway's pizza was devoured within a half hour but the
president himself abstained.
"I understand it was very
good," he said. "But I noticed that
it came in a box from the university food services. Their pizza is
very good."
November 26,1991
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The puck bounced badly for the UBC T-Blrds at the Winter Centre
this weekend. They lost 3-1 and 10-3 to Alberta.
compiled by Mark Nielsen
Volleybirds sweep Pack
The UBC Thunderbirds
opened the Canada West men's
volleyball season with a two-game
sweep of the University of
Saskatchewan Huskies at War
Memorial Gym over the weekend.
The Thunderbirds shut the
Huskies out 3-0 in games (15-11,
15-11, 15-4) on Saturday night
after edging their opponents 3-2
(14-16,16-14, 7-15,15-13,15-13)
the night before.
The women's team, meanwhile, split their series with the
Huskies, losing 3-2 (15-12, 8-15,
5-15, 15-8, 7-15) on Saturday after dumping Saskatchewan 3-0
(10-15,15-12,15-12,15-8)on Friday night.
After sweeping the
Lethbridge University Broncos
last weekend, the women are 3-1
in Canada West play.
Both teams start the first of
four successive road trips this
weekend when they travel to the
University of Calgary to take on
the Dinosaurs.
The Dinos men beat the University of Hawaii Rainbows to
win the Thunderball Tournament
at UBC last weekend.
Waterpolo women
second in Pacific West
The University of Victoria
came back from a one-goal deficit
heading into the final quarter to
overcome UBC 7-5 and win the
Pacific West women's waterpolo
championship in Victoria on Sunday.
Down 4-3, UVic came back to
tie the game with three minutes
to go and scored the winner with
32 seconds left in regulation play.
A desperation shot found the UBC
net with one second remaining to
cap the scoring.
Christine Rosenfeld scored
twice for UBC in the effort, while
Christa Cormack, Dee Bowley and
Rhonda Vanderfluit added singles.
UBC dumped Seattle 8-2 to
reach the finals, behind a four-goal
effort from Rosenfeld and three
goals from Cormack. Vanderfluit
added a single.
UVic also took the league play
title by winning all three games in
the final of three Pacific West tournaments the day before. UBC
settled for second after losing 12-7
to UVic.
Both the women's and the
men's teams head to Quebec this
weekend to play in the national
invitational University Student
Challenge tournament.
Winless weekend for
Both the UBC Thunderbird
men's and women's basketball
teams went winless in their season
opening sets against the University
of Saskatchewan Huskies in
Saskatoon this weekend.
The Huskies edged the men
102-96 on Friday despite 26 points
from J.D. Jackson and 25 from
Derek Christiansen.
Earlier the same night, the
short-staffed womenlost 60-48 and
then fell 76-64 the next evening.
Heading into the weekend,
guard Roj Johal, a 1988-89 Canada
West all-star, had quit the team
because of academic pressure and
fifth-year forward Tarda Gladiuk
fell ill and could not make the trip
to Saskatoon.
Then during the Saturday
game, Elissa Beckett and Cheryl
Kinton were both sent to hospital
following a collision on the court,
leaving only seven healthy players
to finish the night.
The men, meanwhile, lost
105-101 in overtime on Saturday.
Huskies Matt McCullough sunk
a three-point shot with seconds
to go in regulation time to tie the
game 87-87 and force extra time.
Adding to their troubles, second-year guard Jason Pamer is
out indefinitely with mononucleosis.
And fifth-year forward Mike
Clarke will undergo examination
by doctors this week for what
may be a season-ending knee injury, sufferedintheopeninggame
ofthe Golden Bear Classic Tournament earlier this month.
Both teams return home thi s
weekend to host the University of
Calgary Dinosaurs. Game time is
6pm for the women, 8pm for the
men on Friday and Saturday
nights at War Memorial Gym.
Bears maul Hockeybirds
The University of Alberta
Golden Bears stayed in the hunt
for a repeat of their 1990-91
Canada West championship season at the expense of the UBC
Thunderbirds this weekend.
After edging the
Thunderbirds 3-1 on Friday night
at the Winter Centre, they
dumped them 10-2 on Saturday
night with Adam Morrison leading the way with three goals and
two assists.
With the wins, the Bears improved their record to 7-1-1 for
second place in the Canada West
standings and have a game-in-
hand on the 8-1-1 University of
Regina Cougars.
The 3-6-1 Thunderbirds
travel to Saskatoon this weekend
to take on the 4-6-0 University of
Saskatchewan Huskies.
Canada West Scoreboard
Canada West Hockey
Home games
Away games
W   L   T    F   A   Pts.
Basketball vs. Calgary Dinosaurs
Hockey at Saskatchewan Huskies
8    1    1    65 39    17
Fri., Sat, Nov. 22, 23
Fri., Sat., Nov. 22, 23, Saskatoon
7    1    1    46 28    15
Women 6 pm, men 7:45 pm
6    4    0    40 39    12
Volleyball at Calgary Dinosaurs
5    3    1    49 39    11
Men's Field Hockey vs. UVic Vikings
Fri., Sat, Nov. 22, 23
4   6    0    43 44     8
SaL, Nov. 23, 4:30 pm Eric Hamber Turf
4    6    0    34 40     8
Swimming Canada Cup West
3    6    1    42 59     7
Ragby vs. Burnaby
Fri.-Sun., Nov. 22-24, Calgary
0    10 0    30 62     0
SaL, Nov. 23, 2:30 pm,
Thunderbird Stadium
November 19,1991 ]
Vonnegut misses the mark
by Yuri Fulmer
THE first person, having
seen Make Up Your
Mind, who can explain it to
me, will win a prize. For the
majority ofthe play I had
absolutely no idea what the
purpose of the production
was, where it was going, or
why anyone would call it a
Make Up Your Mind
Arts Club
until November 30
After that I failed to
understand how two pornographic films, a "pitifiil old
Harvard fart," the wife of a
millionaire, a club sandwich,
an Inuit woman and the
North Pole could have any
possible relevance to each
other, or be humourous.
I was somewhat surprised
to learn that the premiere of
this play would be in
Vancouver, and not in the
east. The reason is this: Make
Up Your Mind was originally
optioned by a Broadway
producer, but Vonnegut
I went to the
premiere of
Vonnegut's play
fully anticipating an evening
of clever,
insightful wit,
and perhaps set
myself up to be
The man sitting
behind me
loudly to his
Vonnegut has
down pat to
knock you cold."
the idea is
clever enough.
A young man
abandons his
job with a
company to
open a clinic
specializing in a
new form of
designed for
people who
can't make up
their minds. He
encourages his
clients to make
a decision, and        Make up your mind about Vonnegut humour.
then employs a refused the offer when hfi wag
contract killer to put the agked to rewrite thg   ,
unfortunate client in hospital The result ig that much
if they change their mind. needed revisions were not
made, and Vancouver is left
with what could only be
described as a half-rate,
unpolished script with
shallow, unbelievable characters.
Stereotypes are exploited
for their supposedly comic
value, often at the expense of
the status of women. These
factors may explain why the
actors were unable to come to
terms with the characters
they played. With the exception of Beatrice Zeilinger
(Karen), the actors performed
badly, giving crude and
could be
on one
The mere
use of
it amused
a large
part of the
did not
make the
I am
to admit,
that I did
something. If
this is the
case, I
telling me
went on.
The play ends with the
words, "Why, why?" I am
asking myself the same
Where dreams are the truth
by Matthew Johnson and Ted Ing
MY Own Private Idaho is
superb. Unlike this
year's breed of Hollywood pap, it
doesn't mince images or words.
Although the two main
actors are amongst the current
crop ofthe boys to drool over,
this film is far from a look-at-my-
tight-ass buddy flick. The
characters are prostitutes; their
clientele mostly bloated, greying
My Own Private Idaho
now playing
Not your typical Hollywood
idol treatment, but this film is
far from anything typical or
My Own Private Idaho is a
road movie about a search for
home and identity. Mike (River
Phoenix) must cope with his
homosexuality, his love for his
best friend, his narcolepsy and
his feelings of guilt and longing
for his family. Scott Favor
(Keanu Reaves) bides his time
away on the streets until his
rich, powerful father dies and he
can take over the empire which
he has built.
Most of us are alienated
from the subject matter, yet are
strangely involved and attached
to the characters.
The images on the screen
are always slick and innovative.
A hyper-realist palette is used to
paint a firmly realist portrait of
life for society's gutter-set.
Empathizing entirely with
the marginal and excluded,
director Gus Van Sant talks of
these humans with a sympathetic voice, never condescending
or dehumanizing them. Polite,
mainstream society, on the other
hand, gets an entirely different
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Combining elements of
Shakespeare, gay-paranoia,
incest, pornography, documentary and Berlin performance art,
Van Sant's second feature proves
that life sucks, and we like it
that way.
Nothing goes right and no
one lives happily ever after. In
order to survive, the characters
stupidly hope against hope and
sell their asses, praying something better will come along,
which never really does.
By the end ofthe film, all of
the characters are left either
morally or emotionally crippled,
and in the end no one gets what
he wants (or needs).
For all the attempts to put
ourselves alxrve the characters,
we find our lives are no better
than theirs; our society no
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by Johanna Wickie
Remembrance Day, the day
we reflect, the day we honour
those who served and who lost,
was a particularly solemn occasion this year. The weather was a
mirror to the mood of the proceedings. The rains were torrential and the winds cut through
jackets within seconds. Soon feet
were being stamped regardless
of this, the people of Vancouver
Families, the young and those
old enough to actually remember
the years of war arrived sporting
the poppies that have become
synonymous with sacrifice. They
came to the memorial ceremony
to thank those who had given up
so much so that we may live in
peace and security today. They
came not for their own purposes
but to spend an hour or so simply
thinking about the loss of others.
Not all those in attendance
were soinclined. Shortly after the
ceremony began a group of young
people arrived, no more that a
dozen in number, carrying banners tucked under arms. They
positioned themselves near the
Lest we forget
cenotaph andproceeded to unravel
their signs. The message unveiled,
"Let Peace Be Their Memorial",
was testimony to the fact that our
generation has grown completely
out of touch with the reality ofthe
world in which we live. The basic
principle of respect for those who
have struggled to upholdour rights
of freedom and choice was lost on
this group who saw themselves as
having captured morality in a
single, sweeping statement.
These people saw fit turn a day
of mourning, of reflection and of
remembrance into a day of protest.
They were not present to pay homage to veterans, it was simply another form of grandstanding that
has become so prevalent with
single issue groups that see any
event were numbers of people are
gathered and TV cameras are likely
to be present as a means to get
their message' across. Fortunately,
to their credit, there was no chanting of slogans, justaquiet presence
of discontent. But people noticed
their mild disruptions.
The protestors had missed the
point. They failed to realize that it
was the efforts of these veterans,
who took up arms agai nst for their
nation, that has given us the
luxury of protest. All that was
asked for this day was
acknowledgement of this fact
without the banners of self- righteous indignation. It is a straightforward formula whose contents
seem dated and worn to those who
will save the worldby words alone.
Finally, the songs were sung,
the wreathslaid, and the veterans
assembled themselves to take the
march past. As the streets were
crowded it was necessary for some
to move back, making way for the
procession. In the shuffle the protestors were forcedback away from
the limelight of the parade, their
banners folded and out of view.
The parade began and the applause from the crowd was warm
and sincere despite cold hands
and chilling rains. For some, at
least, not only have we not forgotten, but we still continue to remember.
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Dirty ole Uncle
Racists like nothing better
than an uncleTom who will do their
dirty work for them. Such was the
scene in the SUB auditorium on
October 29 when Preston Manning
of the Reform Party had an Asian
woman present their position
against immigrants. With no factual basis, she charged that immigrants took more welfare and
were more prone to become criminals than people born here.
Bryon Jung in Ubyssey's November 13 edition should think
about this statement, the Reform
Party's opposition to
multiculturism, the right of the
Sikhs in the RCMP to wear turbans, and the Party's promotion of
author William Gairdner, who was
a featured speaker at the Reform
Party's Saskatoon convention this
year, explicitly defines "rear Ca
nadians as white, anglo-saxon
Protestants in his book The
Trouble With Canada.
Preston Manning may dress up
the Reform Party's sexist, racist,
and anti-working class politics in
polite code words, but he and his
followers are cut from the same
cloth as the explicit Anglo-Canadian racism ofthe Confederation
of Regions Party.
Don Holmsten
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Prolific, no?
As the author of the "What is
good for the gander..." letter I was
impressed with the Ubyssey hack
who dubbed it so. Obviously they
caught the premise: the inconsistency of Jackie Larkin's views on
the hijacking of a democratic process by single-issue zealots (SIZs).
To recount briefly, Jackie
complained that SIZ's "hijacked"
certain hospital boards. Yet a few
breaths later she advocated voting
in the provincial election on the
basis of a single issue. I found that
to be a rather striking contradiction, and thence invoked the old
saw about what good for the goose
(being good for the gander): a gentle
But sadly Frances Foran, self-
appointed apologist for Ms. Larkin,
was not able to perceive my lone
premise (or should I spell that
"percieve"?). Worse, upon stating
there was "no contradiction" she
proceeded with a discourse on
personal rights. I have reread my
letter several times and have yet
to find one reference to personal
rights or infringement of the same.
I just wanted to talk about a
now I feel like the Goodyear Tune-
up Man. But thanks anyway,
Frances, for your views on a (related but) new topic.
Finally I must comment on
her "they're engineers, engineers
have the misogynist rituals,
(therefore they're...)" logic. Most
of us learned in Grade 9 this is
called "Guilt-By-Association." As
a literary or debating technique it
is almost foolproof, at least until
the listener gains the power of
critical thinking (usually during
adolescence).    Most adults are
aware of the strong correlation
between its use, and ownership of
a shaky case by its user; as such it
detracts more from the credibility
ofthe speaker than ofthe object of
scorn. I am amazed it is still employed. (Spot the irony?)
"Unscrupulous" Rob
Grad Studies (MMAT)
No daytime relief
for engineers
As a staff member at UBC
who has over the past 4 years
witnessed some ofthe ongoing history if the infamous UBC Engineers I feel disgusted enough to
join the ranks of many others and
write this letter.
The article in November 1 issue of The Ubyssey about the Engineering Faculty member who
witnessed one of the Engineering
students urinating on the vehicle
next to hers in broad daylight and
then was narrowly missed by a
water balloon after confronting thi s
person is truly amazing.
My comment is to Steve
Crombie, spokesperson for the
President's office quoted as saying
"There is a mechanism in place to
take away their fees if they don't
stop this sort of activity." The
President's office reminds me of
parents who always threaten and
almost never take action and when
they do it is always more lenient
than fitting for the act. How many
times must the Engineers be reminded? Why are they given any
chance at all at this point? A small
but consistent group within their
ranks (the faces change but inevi
tably they are registered in Engineering) have proven themselves
to be completely without rights to
be at any university.
Is it because their Mommies
and Daddies are paying for their
education that they have no concept
of how they should behave or even
why they should be here? Is it because it is their first year away
from home and like wild animals
away from the den they are sowing
their oats, at the expense of others? Ask us if we find these excuses
acceptable. They are a blight on
the Faculty of Engineering and on
the reputation of every Engineering student who wants nothing to
do with them.
If someone is caught urinating on a car in a public place outside the sanctuary of UBC they
have the potential for having
themselves arrested.
Why, Dr. Strangway, are so
many exceptions made for so few
who are disliked by so many?
Would it make a difference if
it was your car?
Gayle Mavor
Staff Person
And for my next
magical trick...
As an engineer, I suppose I
should not raise issues best left to
the medical profession. And I never
did figure out how they got the
Caramilk intoCadbury Caramilk
Bars. But I must ask FVances Foran
if she does not marvel as I at the
way gobs of protoplasm turn into
human life at the exact moment of
Rob Swiniarski
Grad Studies (MMAT)
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THE UBYSSEY/9 Responsible
Last year Senate voted to establish an
Ad Hoc Committee: To consult faculty and
students on guidelines barring student participation from department decision making on
appointments, promotion, and tenure, and report back to Senate on whether changes may be
required to these guidelines."
The guidelines have not been discussed
since they were adopted by Senate on January
17, 1973. Senate will now allow student representation concerning new appointments.
Opening up this issue is significant; it suggests
potential policy changes in the future.
When the committee approached the
AMS, two ofthe executive addressed the issue.
They stated policy which they felt represented
approximately 20,000 undergraduate students
here at UBC.
The third bylaw in the Duties of the
President states "be responsible for public relations of the Society." This does not mean
interpret public relations by stating policy.
Why did this issue not go to council?
Council should be a forum for policy debate and
Council is responsible to their constituents, and has the potential to be slightly more
democratic than two individuals.
Surely council would be interested in
this issue, if only they knew about it.
Sadly, the exec didn't deem student
participation in decision making important
enough to go to council. Joke motions, however,
are consistently important enough to make it
on to the agenda.
So, while council debates motions on
naming the pizza joint Dukes, renaming Jason
Brett the Big Enchillada and doing the hokey
pokey, the exec makes the real decisions. Occasionally the exec reports to council what they
have done, not what should they do.
Is this a democracy? (Last year's council
members criticized Kurt Preinsperg for not
consulting council; he subsequently brought
every issue before them.)
What other issues do the executive feel
are not important enough to make it to council?
November 19,1991
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Tonight I had Spiral Spicies which were indeed fantastique! Salty and
Greasy. Itchy and Scratchy. Ted Ing and Yuri Fulmer. Mike Coury,
telephone. Chung Wong: Bay hi! will ya? Tlgger Johnson, butthead, o
genki desu ka? Paul Dayson needs a haircut—not Sam Green, peace,
love, and macrame. Please get the ball in the picture, Don Mah. Wont u
plco-ooccz make those articles just a little bit lon-on-ger, Rick Hiebert?
Have a pizza perogie darling Sharon Lindores. The AMS' biggest issue
right new is the pizza place. They don't care about tuition or about the fact
that if all the money is spent on this pizza place then students wont have
the cash to buy pizza," Paul "loves brawny shawny" Dayson burped
matter-of-factly. Yggy King is solipsistic for he cares only for his own
theoretical experiences. Groovy man, have u seen the movie Slackers?
Raul's hair gets to a weird stage where it is wavy and the burns will grow
forever. Paul Gordon, I'm tellin' ya, she shtupped him before she married
him. Dianne Rudolf, I miss your 2-litre cheezy beer—way. Twirl like a
ballerina, Carla Maftechuk, twirl. Thanks for smiling and laughing and
not talking on the phone all night Effie Pow. Francis Foran, bummer
about all that hate mail, man, it's just shtupid. Paula Wellings, dear,
dont take it so seriously. Johanna Wickie, where were YOU Saturday??
Steve Chan, thanks for coming out, Good Effort. "I like this chair because
my feet touch the Door," Tanya Paz had to explain because once again she
had spoken in a stream of consciousness. Some Baptists are okay but they
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They shoot
Martin, don't
Martin Chester, in his
November 1st article "Animal Rights: Horse Racing
Inhumane", shows the
reader that Mr. Chester has
no knowledge of the racing
industry whatsoever.
To his credit, he refers to
other sources. Unfortunately, his choices for those
sources are just as incorrect
as he is.
It is true that horses are
injured occasionally during
races. The public may get
the impression that the frequency of such injuries is
greater than it actually is
through the highly publicized accidents like
Izvestia's and that of Go for
Wand, last year's Horse of
the Year, both of which oc-
curred on national TV.
However, if one considers
that there are many thousands ofhorses at thousands
of tracks around the world,
the number of injuries resulting in death becomes
significant. Also, it is not
stated that the same injuries
can occur in the home pasture just as easily as on the
track. When fifteen hundred pounds of animal are
balanced on one foreleg, as
it is when in a full gallop,
accidents can happen.
The statement by the
Humane Society that horses
under two are immature is
also in error, at least in relation to Thoroughbreds. In
fact, Thoroughbreds mature
somewhat faster than other
breeds, so that yearlings are
developed enough to begin
training and are saddle-
ready by 18 months of age.
Generally, the Thoroughbred is a fiill year ahead of
other breeds in maturity.
Peter Hamilton states
that horses are not a priority to the owners. I ask:
would you mistreat an animal purchased for a great
amount of money and risk
the loss of that investment?
I think not. Neither do the
The use of drugs to keep
down swelling and to control
bleeding can be compared to
the use of liniments used by
The Ubyssey welcomes letters on any Issue. Letters must be typed and are not to exceed 300 words In length. Content
which Is Judged to be libelous, homophobic, sexist, racist or factually Incorrect will not be published. Please be concise.
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human athletes to control
swelling and muscle pain.
Neither enhance or detract
from performance.
Although it is a valiant
effort, Mr. Chester, perhaps
you should adjourn to the
Macmillan Library with Ms.
Mally and Hamilton for a
well-needed study session
before your next try on this
P.S. Another slight problem
that could have been
avoided—I quote: "He had
shattered his leg." Izvestia
was a mare.
Lee Toop
Forestry 2
Honest is good
An honest person at
U.B.C.!!! To whoever was
good enough to turn in my
gold watch to the Sedgewick
staff rather than just walking away: THANK YOU!
You have renewed my faith
in human nature and I hope
there are others like
you...somewhere. Thanks
Robert J. Henry
Engineering 2
To all wimmin
Where I come from, we spell
it W-O-M-E-N... and remain damned proud of it!
Ninette Maga
Next time write
your own letter
I disagree with the editorial on page ten ofthe October 22 issue ofthe Ubyssey.
It states, "...in an act of
resistance to a misogynistic
society, women students
formed a place of their own.
Women can enter SUB 130
to be safe from violence, oppression and the perceptions
of men...The environment is
receptive to women's concerns and frustrations. We
can take refuge from a misogyny-entrenched university and society, and can find
support after being sexually-
and verbally- abused...
...Away from [men's] discriminatory remarks and
evaluations, most women
find it a relaxing atmosphere..."
These statements create
the impression that all
women at UBC are constantly being sexually and
verbally abused by all men.
Men must not all be tarred
with the same brush. Certainly there are men who
are the things you say they
are, but I, for one, am not
one of them.
If a UBC men's club were
formed where men could go
to discuss men's issues, and
be away from "violence, oppression and the perceptions" of women, imagine the
furor it would cause. Men
and women alike would
agree thatthe club was sexist
because it excludes women
only because they are
Exactly the same reasoning applies to SUB 130. I
believe places to discuss
women's and men's issues
are useful, but to suggest
that SUB 130 is a place "to
be safe from violence, oppression, and the perceptions of men," is also to suggest that all men are nothing
more than violentoppressive
Tabe Johnson
Applied Sciences
Blame is not
the issue
Right from the start my
prevention intention has
been misconstrued as blame
by all three respondents to
my original article "assaults
can't happen if you don't put
yourself in a position to be
assaulted." My objective was
not to blame women for assaults. Blaming women or
men will do absolutely
nothing to eradicate your so-
called "disease." Blame is a
truly uninspired, ineffective
and fruitless concept analogous to barking at a dead
horse. Abig difference exists
between blaming men and
helping them. A big difference also exists between
blaming women who walk
alone at night and encouraging them to seek support.
By actively seeking support
women improve their opportunity and right to self protection. Hence, once relatively safe they blame less,
and they feel less blamed
because they prevent personal violation to some degree. I see no fault with
making this right a joint responsibility through help
from others. And especially
so since an immediate remedy for this "disease" is not
yet available. Yes, women
do have a right to walk alone
after dark. However, the
question of rights does not
deal with the fact that
women are simply unable to
walk alone after dark. They
have a right to but the fact is
they can't. By not acting on
this fact women do little to
help themselves, nor do they
give anyone the opportunity
and satisfaction of helping
them. Meanwhile back at
the ranch the fact (danger)
still exists. And just because
women choose to deal with
what exists does not mean
they accept it. Women do
have the capacity to simultaneously deal with it physically (actively seeking
support) while they look for
ways to understand, regulate, diminish, or obliterate
it through time and research.
At any rate where the
onus lies is not the issue.
What is more important is
how we can help one another
as men and women, not exclude and isolate each other
more than we already have.
I personally salute and graciously commend those benevolent men who assist
with the walk-home program, and Fm glad to give
you the opportunity to help
me. I am also grateful that
many more good, kind, warm
and generous men are out
there, and I sincerely hope
that in the future we can
look forward to equally cooperative ways to co-exist on
this planet. Any ideas other
than those which involve
unproductive blame and
hate are always appreciated.
Can we dance soon?
Debra Gordon
Arts 3
November 19,1991 Save
the librarians!
We strongly feel that students
should be made aware of the increasing cutbacks to their library
services. Over the past few years,
more than 10 librarian positions
have been vacated and not filled.
It appears that this is only a beginning. This means that fewer
and fewer librarians will be able to
answer students' questions or help
them find information for research, term papers and homework. This especially affects part-
time and evening students as well
as those who do the main body of
their work on the weekends.
Effective immediately on
Sundays, there is nobody in the
Humanities and Social Sciences
department in the Main library to
help students with such basic needs
as using the CD ROM computers,
indexes and abstracts and to answer other reference questions. In
addition, students will no longer
be able to phone the Main library
on Sundaysforlibraryinformation.
As many users are already aware,
there has been no librarian available in the Science Division on the
weekends for quite some time.
Students who have felt frustrated tryingtofindinformation or
to use some of the library's lesser
known sources will appreciate or
understand the need for a
librarian's knowledge and skills.
Students have a right to have help
need during the hours the library
is open. You can do something to
help stop these cutbacks.
Write to:
David Strangway
President's Office
6565 NW Marine Dr.
Vancouver, V6T 1A7
Dr. Sherrill Grace
Library Senate Committee
Buchanan Tower 607
Tell them that this loss of service is
unacceptable. You can send your
letter free through campus mail.
Remember, you are payingfor this
library and you have a say in what
services are available to you.
Library and Archival
Studies Student Association
Stupider than
you think
I would like to address a certain anonymous faculty member
who was "attacked" by an engineer
at the T-Cup football game. First
of all, I would like to agree that
misogynist behaviour is certainly
unacceptable and unforgivable.
Next, I would like to ask a question: How stupid do you think the
students of this university are?
How can you possibly think
that anyone will believe that the
idiotic act of one student was actually an attack on all women by
the entire engineering faculty?
What you are saying is stereotypical discrimination in itself.
Well, hey, at least you aren't a
hypocrite or anything.
Also, anyone who takes a look
at what really happened can see
that it wouldn't have made any
difference whether or not you were
female, and you shouldrealize that.
The best I can do is offer you
some advice: if you're going to use
deception to try to turn the campus
against the engineers, at least be
intelligent about it.
Kevin Oldknow
You've come a
long way, baby
In regards to the story from
the Nov. 6 issue of The Ubyssey
concerning the engineer who urinated on a car and threw a water
balloon at the female faculty
member, I'd like to ask her where
did she get the notion that the
assault was directed as sexist? I
have no doubt that it was aimed at
intimidating her but as an act of
violence against women? Think
about it. Would the attack have
been any different if the faculty
member was male? I don't think
It seems that any contact the
UBC engineers have with women
on campus have a negative and
sexist attitude attached to it. It
doesn't help when women like the
female faculty member turn things
around to exemplify this.
Of course that engineer's actions are unacceptable, not to
mention completely classless, but
I see no reason to label them sexist. I agree that women have come
a long way, and we have to keep
going. This means that we cannot
label every assault on women,
committed by men, as sexist. Unless all assaults end, and that
would only happen in Utopia, we
have to learn to differentiate the
sexist attacks on women from attacks on random individuals.
Otherwise, we'rejustwastingtime.
Alexe Yeung
Engineering 2
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backstabbed during the annual
general meeting of the Canadian
Federation of Students November
3 to 9.
In a meeting more notable for
its animosity and division than
common interests, about 250 delegates indulged in backroom lobbying and rumour mongering, not
to mention procedural wrangling.
National treasurer Lyndon
Surjik successfullyfoughtoffanon-
confidence vote, spurred by a
$67,000 discrepancy between an
auditor's report and CFS financial
statements. CFS chair Kelly
Lamrock was elected for another
term, although 14 student councils
voted against ratifying him in a
highly unusual procedural move.
"It was the most divisive meeting in recent memory," said
Marcella Munro, a Carleton University student councillor.
Some delegates stalked out of
committee meetings, including one
discussing the budget when it became clear that Surjik had no intention of resigning.
Surjik said he was targeted
because he is gay, and some delegates wanted a scapegoat for the
financial problems. "I got a sense
on Tuesday that trouble was
brewing," he said.
He said he was waiting to hear
from the auditors about the difference in the figures, saying it could
be a simple accounting error on the
auditors' part.
At the final plenary, where the
non-confidence motion came up,
Surjik said people had been
spreading rumours and misinformation.
"People could be 3ued for what
they said," he said.
Sandeep Dhir, Alberta's national executive representative,
spearheaded the drive against
Surjik. "I think the national treasurer should have resigned immediately when he realized the
discrepancy," he said in an interview.
The bitterness that pervaded
the meeting came to a head during
the ratification ofLamrock as chair
for 1992-93—14
schools opposed the motion.
Lamrock said he was surprised.
That act was shameful," he said.
"I guess those 14 schools don't believe in democracy."
But Patricia Barrera, president
ofthe University of Ottawa, one of
the schools that voted against
ratification, said it was the best
way to send a message to Lamrock.
"We had a problem with the
way he worked on francophone
issues," she said. "Maybe hell work
harder on that now."
Lamrock said he will spend the
next 18 months mending fences
and drawing more students into
CFS activities.
Other conference business included:
• Calgary's DeVry Institute of
Technology was accepted as a
prospective member, marking the
first time i n CFS's ten-year hi story
that a private vocational school
has been granted membership.
CFS membership had been limited
to publicly-funded institutions.
•CFS cancelled a lobby session
with MPs from all three parties
when only 40 delegates showed
up. The lobby session was intended
to be a show of unity among Canadian students.
November 19,1991


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