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The Ubyssey Nov 15, 1979

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 One-man force taken to task
Stanley Weston's competence as
head of a Wreck beach cliff erosion
task force is under attack.
Two UBC faculty members claim
Weston is unqualified and lacks a
basic knowledge of oceanography
necessary to prepare a useful report
on the erosion problem.
UBC soil sciences professor Jan
Devries said he lacks confidence in
Weston's ability to head the Wreck
beach investigation.
"I have a lack of confidence in1
Mr. Weston as far as his dealing
with a land-ocean issue. Weston
doesn't have the training or the
knowledge to do justice to the
report," he said.
"He's dealing with a very complex issue."
An NDP organizer is concerned
Weston might present a biased
study of the cliff problem because
recent newspaper reports have ac
cused him of being unethical and
misrepresentative in an independent
study on land use in Langley.
Bruce Ralston, vice-president of
the Point Grey NDP association,
said Weston's credibility could be
endangered because he is reported
to have allowed Gloucester Properties Ltd. to influence the findings of
an independent land use study of
626 acres in Langley.
Because Weston is the only board
of governors member responsible
for the task force report, his
credibility is a serious matter,
Ralston said.
Weston declined Wednesday to
comment on the Langley allegations
or his role on the task force.
"I'm just a little too busy right
now," he said.
UBC assistant soil sciences professor   Art   Bomke   said   Weston
seems to have a superficial approach to reclamation projects.
"I really wonder if someone with
his background is capable of absorbing all the information needed,"
said Bomke, who is chair of the
B.C. Institute of Agrologists land
use committee.
And    Bomke   confirmed   that
Weston had discussed the conclusion of the Langley report with
Gloucester Properties before it was
submitted to them.
"It was unusual because it's supposed to be independent, it looks
rather fishy," he said.
Weston conducted public hearings on the cliff problems at four
evening meetings last week. During
the hearings he considered proposals from the Wreck beach committee, a UBC geography class, the
UBC alumni association and Swan
Wooster Engineering Co. Ltd.
Weston is expected to make a
report to the UBC board Dec. 4.
Senate calls for updates
Student representatives achieved
a token victory Wednesday night as
senate passed a motion calling for
progress reports on the research
Senate will recommend the board
of governors prepare regular updates on the progress of the 58 acre
But    three    other    motions
Vol. LXM, No. 27
Vancouver, B.C. Thursday, November 15,
presented by student senators were
A motion proposing the
establishment of a committee to
suggest limits on student/teacher
ratios in laboratories, tutorials and
discussion groups was defeated.
"The advantages of tutorials are
clear to everyone but if they get too
large we face a serious situation,"
student senator Anne Gardner said.
She charged cutbacks in education have caused a decrease in the
number of teaching assistants while
undergraduate enrolment has gone
Administration president Doug
Kenny said the motion implied an
answer to the problem of
student/teacher ratios.
"Usually one doesn't give
specific advice to senate," he said.
Arts dean Robert Will said the
motion   avoids   the   issue   of  the
"It's absolutely rubbish that
there's been a cutback in the
teaching assistant budget. It looks
as if the teaching assistants are asking for something themselves," said
But Gardner said the motion was
not influenced by the TA unionization drive and the figures she
presented on cutbacks were based
on a 1977 Alma Mater Society external affairs committee report.
Senate also defeated a research
park motion proposed by student
senators Valgeet Johl and Chris
The motion asked the board to
hold a full public hearing before
allowing any expansion of the
research park.
Politicians claim
petition deceptive
ARTIST'S CONCEPTION of planned stadium/conference centre for university endowment lands features all-
wood construction and ample parking. Compromise between radical Pacific National Exhibition and downtown
proposals, UBC complex will facilitate all major sports except baseball. Trees removed from site will provide large
part of construction materials, and project will provide many jobs for students.
Deceptive and questionable
political soliciting practices could
spell the end to the latest Alma
Mater Society constitutional revision proposal.
Student politicians charged
Wednesday night that student
board of governors member Bruce
Armstrong solicited signatures for a
constitutional amendment petition
without making a complete copy of
the amendments available to all the
AMS external affairs officer
Valgeet Johl accused Armstrong of
giving students only a brief summary containing the "substance"
of the constitutional changes while
soliciting signatures for a petition
that would force a student referendum on the issue.
"They weren't signing the petition on the basis of what the proposed by-laws were in their entirety.
People were asked to sign the petition on the basis of viewing the
'substance' of the by-law amendment," said Johl.
"It seems like a questionable
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Armstrong presented the 600
signature petition at Wednesday's
student representative assembly
meeting and requested an immediate referendum. But Johl and
others questioned the validity of the
petition and successfully moved to
have the matter referred to student
Armstrong claimed it was not
necessary for him to provide the
complete text of the amendment to
students signing the petition and
questioned the right of SRA
members to dispute the petition's
Johl said it was also questionable
whether the amendment proposals
submitted to the SRA with the petition were the same proposals
students had petitioned to support.
She charged that the document
presented at the SRA may have
been a version of the proposals
revised by AMS lawyers and officially received only late Tuesday.
"We don't know whet-her they
are the same document,' said Johl.
Manning parks multiplex at university
B.C.'s new lower mainland stadium and
convention complex will be built near the
research park in the university endowment
lands, a source close to Paul Manning said
The source contacted The Ubyssey the day
after Manning announced a formal decision
would not be made on the controversial issue
until early December. He refused to be identified.
Nevertheless, said the source, negotiations
are now being carried out involving the
stadium committee, the endowment lands
land-use committee and the university administration.
Administration vice-president Chuck Connaghan said Wednesday the reports were inaccurate. "Your source is wrong that a final
decision has been reached," he said.
The source said several factors contributed
to the endowment lands being chosen as site
for the sports palace and trade centre.
"Manning was caught between proponents
of the Pacific National Exhibition and False
Creek sites, neither of which he liked," he
said. "The UBC bid looked like a perfect
The endowment lands site will solve the
traffic and parking problems that plague
other proposed sites, he said
"By the time construction starts UBC will
be accessible by no less than four four-lane
divided roads," he said. "Neither False
Creek nor the PNE have that much freeway
readily available for handling peak crowds."
He pointed out the complex would be used
almost entirely during times when the UBC
campus has little commuter traffic.
"In the endowment lands there is almost
unlimited space that can be developed to handle parking," he said. "And there will still be
ample room for park."
He said stadium parking could be used in
off-hours to alleviate the parking squeeze at
UBC. He did not know how close the complex will be to the campus proper.
No specific site in the endowment lands
has yet been considered, he said.
"We certainly haven't gone that far," he
said. "But it would probably be most
economically viable to coordinate with the
development of Discovery park."
The stadium will be domed and will use
"as much wood as possible" in its construction, the source said.
He said the endowment lands forest may
be used to provide materials. "We're going
to have to clear a lot of land and it would be a
shame to waste that beautiful forest. It's also
a hell of a lot cheaper than shipping wood
from the Queen Charlottes."
He said he hoped B.C.'s forest industry
will contribute to the complex by harvesting
and providing materials at cost and bringing
in business through their contacts with corporations, both national and international.
The reaction of UBC chancellor J.  V.
Clyne, former MacMillan Bloedel president,
was most curious.
"With a wood dome we can roof the structure at far less expense than the Olympic
Stadium in Montreal, and anyway, I feel it's
high time we rewarded, both symbolically
and financially, the great forest corporations
which have flattered this province with their
free enterprise presence," Clyne stated.
"And I don't need to add, it will greatly
beautify this institute of learning."
PNE president Erwin Swangard said he
doubted the reports were true. "If you built
that stadium and shoved it up my nose I still
wouldn't believe it. It can't be. I'll have
Volrich's balls for bookends," he said.
"If it is true then I'd be glad to serve as advisor and consultant on the project," he said.
Administration president Doug Kenny,
while stating no project has been approved
by the university, praised the concept.
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Thursday, November 15,1979
Police hold Belshaw In Paris
UBC anthropology professor Cyril Belshaw is currently under arrest
in Paris for questioning in connection with the murder of his wife.
French police arrested Belshaw
Sunday and are holding him in a
Paris prison pending a request by
Swiss authorities for Belshaw's extradition.
Belshaw's Vancouver lawyer,
Harry McLaughlin, said Tuesday
he had no reason to believe his
client would be detained by French
police while attending an academic
McLaughlin also said Belshaw
had answered all questions asked
him by Swiss police and was at no
time reluctant to answer their questions.
"Dr. Belshaw is as interested as
anyone in knowing what happened
to his wife," said McLaughlin.
McLaughlin added he believes
Swiss police do not have sufficient
evidence to charge anyone in the
murder. And he said he has retained
a prominent Swiss lawyer and several Parisian lawyers to advise Belshaw.
UBC English instructor Betty
Belshaw's nude, partially-decomposed body was found near Lausanne, Switzerland March 29.
Belshaw reported his wife missing
last January after she failed to keep
a luncheon date in Paris.
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China moves
to modernize
China has embarked on a new
Long March to modernization, a
guest professor said Tuesday.
"China has set her goal for
becoming a modern socialist country before the end of the twentieth
century," said Fei Xlao-Tong,
social anthropologist and vice-
president of the Chinese academy
of social sciences.
"China has an urgent need to
modernize. However, such a
possibility has not always been present. In recent centuries, she had
been outstripped by other nations
first in the scientific and
technological fields, then in industrial and agricultural development," he told more than 200 people in Buch. 106.
"Thirty years ago, China rose to
her feet to take her place as an equal
and independent member of the
world community of nations," said
Fei, in reference to the 1949 victory
of Mao-Tse-Tung's Communist
Fei said there were obstacles in
China's path to modernization and
"notable among them was the
scourge of the Gang of Four."
He warned against the danger of
mistaking Westernization for
modernization. Fei said the mistake
occurred a century ago when
dynastic rulers in China sought to
modernize by importing arms and
industrial equipment from abroad.
"Mistaking Westernization for
modernization, they (developing
countries) find that they have gained Western technology only at the
cost of their national independence
and sovereignty," he said.
"Developing countries are confronted with a contradiction.
Should they seek Western
technology in their modernization
attempt, they may fall instead
under the control of the Western
countries. Should they reject it,
they may find themselves unable to
throw off their backwardness" said
"China, a developing country of
the Third World, is attempting to
find its own way of modernization.
What she is trying to do is to put
Western technology in the service of
building her own, fully independent
and sovereign socialist economy,"
he said.
Fei said there are 56 separate nationalities recognized to date in
China, while the Han nationality
alone constitutes 94 per cent of
China's 800 million population.
The remaining six percent of the
population is composed of the 55
other nationalities.
Fei said the disparities between
the Han ethnic group and the
minorities used to be very marked.
"Before liberation, the minorities
lived in out of the way places, led
harsher lives and had to take the
brunt of social injustices."
Differences of economic and
cultural growth between Hans and
the minorities still have not been-
completely eradicated, said Fei. He
said there are two gaps which still
separate China from her goal of
"China has not only to close the
gap between herself and the advanced nations of the world but also that
between the different nationalities
occupying her territory."
"The two gaps are inter-related.
Obviously the economy and culture
of the minorities would have to
catch up with the rest of the country
before the country as a whole can
catch up with the world. That is
why we say in China: 'Modernization needs the minorities; the
minorities need modernization,' "
he said.
Fei said modernization is not to
be achieved at the expense of the
various nationalities. "A nationality follows its own rules of inception, growth, and withering away,
which no one can arbitrarily
"The interests of the minorities
must be kept well in mind."
Pool plan almost scuttled
Student politicians have scrapped
a proposal to encourage the use of
car pools with a system of transferable parking stickers.
But they have developed an alternative plan that would give car
pools preferential use of parking
lots closer to the university.
The recommendation came after
a public meeting Friday where students discussed a proposal of floating parking stickers for car pool
users. But Craig Brooks, student
parking and traffic committee,
said allowing car pools with B-lot
stickers into L- and A-lots would
provide a greater incentive to use
car pools.
"The new proposal eliminates
what is now A-lot and extends the
current L-lot outwards," he said.
Brooks said he will conduct a feasibility study on the proposal next
— curtis long photo
A. J. FOYT of the kiddie set sweeps to victory in Indy 500 replay Sunday in B-lot. Baby formula racer clocked
fastest elapsed time around pylons of all UBC sports car club entries. Smallest entry featured braking system by
Puma and power by S. Ponies. Hardy driver declined optional air conditioning equipment, preferring revolutionary
flow-through ventilation.
Far right rag left on campus
An ultra-conservative newspaper,
written to give students "a break
from leftist and Marxist policy," is
being distributed at UBC without
the authorization of the UBC administration.
Our Canada has been distributed
at various points on campus including Sedgewick library and Gage
And Al Soltis, Gage community
council president, said he objects to
the paper being dumped in the
residence without permission.
"I don't like things being
dumped here. We're almost like a
garbage dump and it's a problem,"
said Soltis.
Administration vice-president
Erich Vogt said Thursday the
newspaper has gone against university policy by distributing on campus without authority from the administration.
But Our Canada publisher Alan
Wilding said he sees nothing wrong
in dumping the papers on campus.
"We think Vancouver should have
some too, it's a beautiful city," he
said in a telephone interview from
Toronto. "We're trying to give
students a break from leftists and
Marxist policy. It's time we had the
other side of the story."
Wilding said he has had no reaction from the university about his
newspaper and will continue to
distribute it at UBC. "There's a lot
of papers dumped on campus. If
people don't like the paper, they
don't have to read it," he said.
Our Canada is also distributed at
the universities of Toronto and
Waterloo and at campuses in Montreal, Ottawa and Winnipeg.
Wilding said he has received no objections about the paper.
The    paper   concentrates   on
political issues such as the revolution in Nicaragua, the Berger report
on the northern pipeline, and
Quebec's Bill 101.
The paper's editorial concentrates on the Soviet invasion of
Czechoslovakia and warns readers
of the dangers of "Red Facists."
"The West has lost its courage,
its faith and its destiny. By its
silence it allows disaster to spread
all over the world like a raging fire.
Soon it will even overtake us," it
The letters column also reflects
the conservative sentiments of some
Our Canada readers.
UBC's letter protest weak
Students appear only to be interested in writing letters home asking
for money.
Only 1,500 students signed protest letters in the Alma Mater Society's campaign against education
cutbacks, according to an AMS
Bob Staley, an AMS external affairs committee member, said he
was unsure of the letter-writing
campaign's benefits and admitted
student apathy was a factor in lack
of response.
External affairs officer Valgeet
Johl said last week she hoped the
campaign would collect 6,000 signed letters to deliver to education
minister Pat McGeer.
AMS officials plan to go to Victoria in two weeks with representatives from Simon Fraser University
and the University of Victoria to deliver the protest letters to McGeer.
The letter-writing campaign was
the only event held at UBC to mark
national students week.
Plan spells dome ffor endowment lands
From page 1
"It will provide a lot of student jobs," he
said. "Should such a project occur we would
want students filling positions as parking attendants, concession workers and janitors. It
would be valuable training for when the
students leave the university."
Kenny said pressure would be taken off the
student financial aid system. "The hundreds
of student jobs could offset the scheduled
tuition fee increase next year," he said.
The university would also benefit financially, Kenny said.
"Food services, the faculty club, the AMS
bars, other services, these will all greatly improve their business," he said. "UBC's summer convention centre would get some spillover from the complex.
"This could be the financial vortex that
guides us safely around the Fiscal banana
peel," said Kenny.
B.C. Lions team manager Bobby Ackles
was delighted. "With 60,000 seats we can
cover our asses financially and it might make
all the difference in the performance of the
team," he said. "But maybe they should save
the dome and put it over McMahon Stadium
(in Calgary)."
But Whitecaps manager John Best said the
soccer side will still move to another city.
"They could offer us the moon and we'd still
split this dull, dull burg."
According to The Ubyssey's source, sports
will be given first priority in the proposed
Manning will propose the complex*be built
in two stages, he said. The first stage will be a
stadium with facilities for soccer, football
and major track events. There will be no
room for baseball.
"Studies on the optimal height for a dome
of cellulose fibre construction preclude the
possibility of major league baseball," he
said. "Besides, no one in Vancouver watches
the silly game anyway."
The second stage will include space for major conventions and agricultural or trade
fairs. "UBC already has handled conventions
for several years and could provide us with
valuable interface," he said.
A crown corporation will be set up to construct and govern the complex. No name has
been proposed for the corporation or the
stadium, he said.
"There have been a lot of ideas thrown
around," he said. "But we can't tell yet what
it might be called.
"W. A. C. Bennett is first choice, naturally, since he never got to build his tower
before the NDP took power. Volrich is an
idea, but not much of one. I'd kind of like to
name it after Jim Young," he said.
"After all the work he's done," he joked,
"I think Paul (Manning) would like to name
it after himself."
Jim Hunter, spokesman for the Coalition
Opposing  University  Lands. Development,
charged that such a proposal would be a
"It's impossible to completely fire-proof
the seasoned wood used in such construction,
nor does the city have fire-fighting equipment capable of handling a fire in such a
complex," Hunter said.
"Should a fire get a good start you can kiss
60,000 people goodbye. It's risking the lives
of more people than the Americans lost in
Vietnam," he said.
Hunter said immediate steps would be
taken to organize a protest against the complex, to be coordinated with efforts by
COULD to stop the Discovery park development.
"We've got to put a stop to encroaching
development of the endowment lands,"
Hunter said. He urged concerned members
of the university community to phone
COULD at 228-2121.
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Thursday, November 15,1979
Weston has
beach ball
The Wreck beach ball is now in the board of governors' court.
Their own appointee, Stan Weston, has currently bounced into a
public controversy emerging over charges of "unquestionable"
and "fishy" practice in a crucial land use issue.
And now UBC soil sciences professor Jan Devries says Weston
lacks the training and knowledge to deal with a complex
oceanography issue such as the Wreck beach cliff erosion plan. In
fact, instead of boosting his colleague's efforts as a natural ally,
Devries says he lacks confidence in Weston's work.
That means something.
After all, Weston has been dragged through the mud for his
report on land use of 626 acres in Langley. It seems that some Vancouver soil analysts have charged the dirt man with allowing his
personal slant to influence his report's conclusion. Others even
charge that he consulted the developer, Gloucester Properties
Ltd., before submitting the report and hence the company used the
report to reinforce its bid to remove the land from the agriculture
Now that's heavy stuff.
The board of governors should seriously examine its motives for
choosing a man branded incompetent and incapable of handling a
crucial issue such as the future of Wreck beach. Weston, whom
board members openly ridicule at meetings, was obviously not
chosen for his past prowess to head the beach investigations.
Instead, the convenient one-man task force concept offered a
two-faced approach. Weston would soothe the project's opponents while still upholding the board's firmly-established stance
to adopt Swan Wooster's original proposal.
Art Bomke, UBC assistant soil sciences professor, calls
Weston's transactions with the Langley land issue "fishy" and says
he wonders if the so-called expert is capable of absorbing all the information needed.
Bruce Ralston, vice-president of the Point Grey NDP association, has questioned Weston's position as head of the cliff erosion
task force. He realizes that in the Langley issue, Weston's report
will be the prime evidence in reinforcing a cabinet decision to
release the Langley land from the land freeze.
And unfortunately, in the Wreck beach investigation, Weston's
word has the same weight. It's scary to think that the board will
follow whatever conclusions their cherished appointee comes up
with. Regardless of his questionable public practices and competence, Weston's decisions will directly affect the fate of Wreck
beach and the lives of all who will use that public land for years to
The analogy is frightening, but for some reason, all we can think
of lately is a little boy who's lost his shovel playing in the sandbox.
November 15, 1979
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater
Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS or
the university administration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page
Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Co-Editors: Heather Conn and Tom Hawthorn
"What does everyone think of the White paper?" asked quizzical Montreal native Tom Hawthorn. "I actually prefer blue paper," answered the worldly Heather
Conn. And at the mere mention of sheets of paper, Julie Wheelwright admitted she preferred sex frankly, while Gary Brookfield raised his eyebrows and
mumbled "If only I'd known." Peter Menyasz and Geof Wheelwright found themselves disgusted at this mental midgetry and declared they were wholly in
favor of white paper as long as it didn't take jobs away from blue, green or any other types of paper. Erica Leiren, Verne McDonald and Terry Asseltine all
thought the question referred to a new plan to replace copy paper in the newsroom. But Peter Ferguson, Kevin Finnegan and Michael Helfinger knew all about
the white paper; they said it was what Doug Collins wrote all his columns on. "You're crazy," scoffed Daniel Moon, Dave Francis, Steve Howard and Brant
Banham. "It's the new toilet paper in the men's washroom." Only John Kula and Curtis Long knew the White paper was written entirely in French, but they
weren't going to tell.
* Accepting some refugees starves others'
Fresh in from a tour of southeast
Asian refugee camps, the executive
director of Canadian immigration
policy, Mr. J. C. Best, gave his firsthand report mostly for the benefit
of empty seats last Friday in IRC
lecture hall 6. Most of us have lost
interest in the boat people, assured
that Canada helps within the limits
of her resources.
As of Oct. 26, 4,000 groups have
pledged to sponsor 22,000 refugees
for a period of 12 months; 16,000
refugees arrived already, 5,000 a
month will arrive from now on, a
total of 50,000 by the end of 1980
and 110 million tax dollars have
been earmarked for the project.
While these are impressive facts,
others are no less relevant. In a time
when hundreds of thousands of
Canadians are out on wintry streets,
'Will Weston play fair?'
The UBC board of governors recently appointed Stanley Weston, one
of its members, to conduct a one man task force to help decide the future
of Wreck beach and the surrounding area. At public hearings held last
Thursday, Friday, and Saturday strong opposition to the Swan Wooster
proposal was apparent. According to his terms of reference Mr. Weston
will now prepare a report to submit to the property committee of the
board of governors on Dec. 4, 1979.
The Vancouver Sun reported on Saturday Nov. 10 (page A3) that Mr.
Weston, in his professional capacity as a soils expert, prepared a report in
1977 judging the suitability of 626 acres of Langley land for farming purposes. Gloucester Properties Ltd. later used Mr. Weston's report as
evidence in an appeal before the provincial cabinet's environment and
land use committee. Art Bomke, assistant professor of soil science at
UBC and chairman of the B.C. Institute of Agrologists' land use committee has described Mr. Weston's consultation with Gloucester Properties
Ltd. before submitting the report — supposedly an independent study —
as unethical. Bomke said further: "The conclusion is totally misrepresen-
tative of what is in the report and, I feel myself, that is unethical as well."
What assurance can Mr. Weston offer to those concerned about the
future of Wreck Beach that he will submit a fair and objective report to
the UBC board of governors on Dec. 4?
Bruce Ralston
law 3
vice president
Point Grey NDP Association
looking in vain for work,
humiliated and often impoverished;
when universities and hospitals are
overcrowded, decent houses unaf-
fordable and energy to heat them
precariously scarce; when the
government slashes social programs
in spite of mounting social problems, simply because we can
no longer pay for them — in a time
like this, clearly, accepting immigrants is contrary to the
economic interests of Canada.
How can we offer Vietnamese
peasants the decent work, shelter
and friendship that we ourselves
cannot find in this country? How
can we hope they will integrate in
stead   of   forming,   in   pure   self-
defence, ethnic concentrations?
I can think of two reasonable attitudes to take, and I myself waver
between them. Either we face up to
the reality that our ailing economy
must first stabilize and consolidate
and cannot afford to support immigrants who, undeniably, need a
lot of support; or we let
humanitarian considerations override economic ones and say: Yes,
we are willing to put up with longer
lines at the unemployment insurance office, and willing to put up
with social friction caused by un-
assimilatable ethnic groups, and
willing   to   put   up   with   growing
Petition was all in fun
The petition calling for the
resignations of Bob Staley and
Craig Brooks was a prank. After
speaking to Mr. Staley, I learned
that Ted Longstaffe and four other
computer science students had
presented the petition as a practical
The petition can not be constitutional. If it were, 500 engineering
students could present a petition
calling for the resignation of every
student representative assembly
rep. The only way to remove a
representative from the SRA is
through a constituency referendum.
In regards to Longstaffe's claim
of partisan antagonism,  I cannot
see how he can make such an
assumption after attending one
SRA meeting. Outside of the
dramatics during the SRA
meetings, Bob and Craig have
worked closely on several student
housing projects.
In early June of this year, Bob,
Craig and I were UBC delegates to
the annual B.C. students' federation conference. There were no indifferences; we represented the
AMS faithfully. There was no arts-
science confrontation as Longstaffe
Frank Lee
education senator
student representative assembly
slums around our cities — for the
sake of saving human lives.
Every individual rescued, when
we scan his face for traces of
gratitude, makes us feel proud and
humanitarian. He helps us forget
how inconsistent our
humanitarianism really is, with
500,000 refugees still rotting in
camps and a worldwide potential of
10 million more.
For every refugee we select, we
condemn countless others to starve,
and with half of humanity living in
utter misery, there is no end in
sight. Asia alone produces 80
million new mouths to feed every
year; the world population doubles
every 30 years. The root of the
misery, of course, is not so much
communism as runaway overpopulation.
Canadian politicians have spoken
out for an open-door policy
towards refugees, or rather, an arbitrary half-open door policy; but
have they gauged the sentiment of
the populace at large? What are we
in for in Canada? A racist backlash
against immigrants and ethnic
minorities, as the washroom graffiti
in the Sedgewick Library so luridly
paints it: "... .We need to put
an end to the perpetual lapping up
of the fucking Chinese and East Indian population overflow; i.e.
KILL the god-damned
unassimilated scummy rejects."?
Kurt Preinsperger
science Thursday, November 15,1979
Page 5
Wrong Wong ends here
On Sept. 18, 1979 a letter about
the tfaffic and security unit was
published in The Ubyssey. Whether
the author signed it as David or
Dave Wong, science 3 and three
others, I cannot recall. The choice
of words of that letter was not very
discreet and I do not totally agree
with the contents of that letter. As
expected the traffic and security
unit was offended.
Then, on Oct. 26, 1979 I received
a letter from a law firm commissioned by the traffic and security
unit of UBC charging that "my"
letter was libelous and an apology
was demanded. They gave 10 days
from the date on their letter (Oct.
24, 1979) for me to print an apology
in The Ubyssey or they will proceed
with legal action.
I am David L. W. Wong. I am in
third-year science and am not the
author of that letter. David Wong is
a common name and certainly in a
category as broad as third-year science there should be more than one.
I do not know what led them to believe that I am the author but two
possibilities came to my mind:
• They sent letters to all David
Wongs in third-year science, hoping
that the author will respond to their
'Nukes really care'
The quotes which Julie Wheelwright has used in her book review
of The Anti-Nuclear Handbook are
misleading. She quotes the author's
charges of exploitation of welders
by the Swiss power industry:
". . .radiation was so intense that
each welder could woflc for only
two minutes. . . ." What this
means is that during the two minutes the welders received the maximum amount of radiation they are
allowed to receive during a single
These limits have been established for the protection of employees.
From my own experience in Canada, management does take this seriously and does not want to endanger employees. Unfortunately
the author creates an image of
burned-out welders staggering exhausted from a radioactive room
after two minutes.
According to the author, the
workers were not informed of the
risk. However, they were obviously
told why they could stay in only two
minutes. I doubt that these tradesmen wanted a more detailed explanation. Other workers in the plant
SUS supports
proposed cuts
in student reps
This letter is written to express
the support of the executive of the
science undergraduate society for
the proposed changes to the constitution of the Alma Mater Society.
We feel that the resumption of at-
large elections will provide for a
stronger voice from you, the members of the AMS.
The proposed cuts in the size of
the student representative assembly
will streamline the processes of student government and will allow student senators to better represent
their constituents to senate, instead
of becoming caught up in the jungle
of AMS politics.
In short, we think that these
changes will help the Alma Mater
Society to serve you. We would
urge both our constituents and all
other students to support these
changes in the upcoming referendum.
Mike McCann
science undergraduate society
The Ubyssey welcomes letters
from all readers.
Letters should be signed and
Pen names will be used when the
writer's real name is also included
for our information in the letter or
when valid reasons for anonymity
are given.
Although an effort is made to
publish all letters received, The
Ubyssey reserves the right to edit
letters for reasons of brevity, legality, grammar or taste.
have gotten an explanation and enter hot areas.
The author may claim that any
level of radiation, no matter how
low, is unhealthy and that this possibility should have been discussed
with the tradesmen. However, until
there is some evidence to support
this claim then the industry cannot
reasonably be charged with exploitation because they are within
guidelines established for employee
Situations similar to the ones cited are avoided if at all possible.
Employees are only used like this
under very unusual circumstances.
Having reached their limit, the
tradesmen would not be allowed to
work in many parts of the plant until they have reached the end of a set
time period (say a quarter-year) in
which the dose was allowed.
Dave Crowe
grad studies
threat of legal action (the shotgun
• Using some unknown means,
they singled me out.
If there is more than one David
Wong in third-year science, which is
highly likely, then I would give
them the benefit of the doubt and
assume that they used the shotgun
As mature and responsible adults
they can send a letter to The Ubyssey to prove that David Wong's letter was false; they can present facts
to counter David Wong's
statements and they can invite
David Wong to back his statements;
however, they chose to use threat.
In this part of the world people
are innocent until proven guilty.
They have made me (not to mention
all the other possible David Wongs)
guilty without any kind of proof in
their letter. I have to take steps to
prove my innocence.
I returned a letter stating that I
am not the author of that letter,
presented points that they might
have missed (i.e. is the author David Wong at all?) and I demanded a
retraction of their charge by letter.
As a reasonable being I gave
them approximately 10 days (starting on and including Oct. 29, 1979)
to do so before 1 present, to put it
mildly, their "blunder" to the readers of The Ubyssey.
Well, here it is. Nobody gained
anything. They have more unfavorable publicity and I have lost more
time. I shall end it here. I shall end
it now. I cannot spare any more
time. All is forgotten with or
without a retraction.
David L. W. Wong
science 3
Student Discounts
The U.B.C. Awards Office wishes to advise
students of a limited number of jobs available under
the Ministry of Education sponsored Work/Study
Work/Study is an adjunct to the British Columbia
Student Assistance Programme and was designed to
provide on-campus work experience for students requiring financial assistance while studying.
Students who qualify may be eligible to earn up to
$400 during the period January 1 to April 30, 1980.
Students will be paid at the regular student assistant
These positions are being offered primarily to
students who applied for BCSAP and received reduced awards due to lack of expected parental or student
contribution or to students who may have additional
educational costs over the BCSAP maximum.
Interested students should contact the Awards Office
in Room 50, General Services Administration
Building or by telephone: 228-5111. Students wishing
to work in January should contact the Awards Office
by December 14, 1979.
Daniel Rodier.
Scholarship student. Dedicated
to becoming a marine biologist.
Will he make it?
No, he won't.
Danny's a brilliant student.
There's no end to what he wants
to learn. Yet Danny's no hermit.
He really enjoys a good time.
That's the problem. It's
not that he sets out to drink too
much, but once Danny starts
he often forgets he has a limit,
and then it's too late.
Danny would be wise to
see a doctor, except he says it's
just a phase he's going through.
His work hasn't suffered yet.
But if Danny doesn't change,
it soon will.
And, no, Danny won't
make it.
Danny's a brilliant student.
There's no end to what he wants
to learn. Yet Danny's no hermit.
He really enjoys a good time.
One of the things Danny's
learned at university is how to
keep those good times good.
When he drinks, whether it's
beer, wine or spirits, he knows
his limit and he respects it.
Another year or so, and
Danny will be working in a
field that's fascinated him all
his life. He wouldn't risk spoiling the opportunity for
Yes, Danny is going to
make it.
Distillers since 1857 Page 6
Thursday, November 15, 1979
— kavin finnegan photo
SECOND IN SERIES of bizarre golf shots has Sue Kelly lining up putt nervously, well aware
of Mohawk plan to run out and grab ball before it drops in hole. Thunderettes half solved problem in Saturday field hockey game, tieing Vancouver league opponent 4-4. Kelly, who bird-
ied this hole, is one of few veterans on rebuilding team.
(    'Bird droppings     )
Rugby team
second Cup
Weather doesn't seem to affect the rugby
Thunderbirds in the least. The UBC team
overcame the vagaries of a foggy Thunderbird Stadium Sunday to drop the Fraser
Valley reps 22-9 in the first leg of the 'Birds
defence of the McKechnie Cup.
Fullback Graham Taylor scored 18 points
for the 'Birds and saved them in the rare
moments of trouble with well-placed clearing
kicks. Brian Daniels scored the other UBC
Taylor opened the scoring with a 25-metre
penalty goal with five minutes gone in the
game and then added others from 30 and 40
metres before the Valley reps managed one
just before the whistle to make the half-time
score 9-3.
Taylor scored a try early in the second half
on a play set up by Dale Turkington. Turk-
ington got outside on an overlap and then
flipped the ball to Taylor as he was being
driven out of bounds.
The Valley reps scored a try midway
through the half to bring them close again
but Taylor's fourth penalty goal of the day
put the game away. Daniels' try, converted
by Taylor, rounded out the scoring.
The UBC Seconds took their first round
Japan Cup game 33-0 over the Fraser Valley
Seconds in a later game. Steve Rowell scored
13 points for the Braves while Rob Fuller had
two tries and John McCulloch, Peter Olesen
and Jeff Boritson added one each.
The McKechnie Cup is emblematic of rugby union supremacy in B.C. There are four
unions including the Valley, Vancouver,
Vancouver Island and UBC. UBC plays in
the Vancouver Rugby Union but for historical reasons is considered a union in itself.
Saturday the 'Birds return to VRU action,
meeting the Trojans at 2:30 p.m. at Thunderbird Stadium.
PANGO PANGO (UNS) — This year's
crap of flatball players have retired from the
field to lick their wounds and anything else
they can get their hands on. Team coach
Frantic Smut attributed his squad's poor
showing this season to a poor quality of iron
grids and skinned pigs. Smut promised improvements in next year's groups. "This is a
flatball," he said emulatingly.
The Thunderbird basketball team finished
its exhibition schedule by winning two games
against senior dogwood teams over the
weekend. Friday night UBC dropped Puccini's 79-58 with Bob Forsyth scoring 21
points and on Saturday the 'Birds knocked
off Gary Taylor's 88-62. John Stark led all
scorers with 28 points.
The 'Birds open theif Canada West season
at home Friday and Saturday against the
University of Saskatchewan Huskies. Game
time both nights is 8:30 p.m. in the War
Memorial Gym.
*        *        *
The Thunderette basketball team dropped
both games of its season opener series in
Lethbridge on the weekend. Friday night
UBC was edged 77-76 in overtime after the
score was tied 63-63 at the end of the second
half. Agnes Baker, a transfer student from
defending champion Laurentian University,
scored 26 points and Jane Waddell added 17.
Saturday the Thunderettes lost 64-51, with
Baker scoring 29 points.
UBC plays at home this weekend against
the University of Saskatchewan. Games Friday and Saturday night start at 6:45 p.m. in
War Memorial Gymnasium.
* *        *
The UBC fencing team had a strong.show-
ing in the Fran Wetterberg Open fencing
tournament in Edmonton last weekend. Jane
Milton placed second in the women's foil
after losing a barrage for the title, while
Frances Sloan placed fourth in the same
event. In men's action Craig Bowlsby placed
third in the men's foil while Graham Smith
finished fourth in the epee and Rockson
Tang eighth in the sabre.
This weekend the team travels to Seattle
for the University of Washington Open tournament.
* *      *
The women's field hockey team suffered a
second half letdown and tied Mohawks 4-4 in
Vancouver Women's Field Hockey League
action Saturday. The Thunderettes led 3-1 at
the half, and 4-3 with two minutes remaining.
Women's basketball
UBC 76 Lethbridge 77 o.t.
Men's basketball
UBC 79 Puccini's 58
Men's ice hockey
UBC 6 Calgary 4
Women's field hockey
UBC 4 Mohawks 4
JV's 0 North Vanl
Women's basketball
UBC 51 Lethbridge 64
Men's basketball
UBC 88 Gary Taylor's 62
Men's ice hockey
UBC 4 Calgary 5
Men's rugby
McKechnie Cup
UBC 22 Fraser Valley 9
Japan Cup
UBC Seconds 33 Valley 0
Women's ice hockey
UBC 1 North Delta 4
After a year's hiatus UBC could
have two volleyball teams as national
contenders this year.
And there are two new coaches who
hope to lead them there.
The women's team, which was
deposed as national champion by the
University of Saskatchewan Huskiettes
last year, has six players returning
from last season including, starters
Kerry Hutchison and Chris Trainor.
The biggest change is at the coaching
position, where former York University coach Sandy Silver has taken over
the Thunderettes.
Silver took York to the national final
last year and has also coached the Ontario provincial team, as well as lived in
the Soviet Union for a period to study
the game.
Silver said Saskatchewan would
again be the strongest team in Canada
"They haven't lost any players
through graduation and they have
picked up some Americans," she said.
Silver is optimistic about the team's
chances because all players have
previous experience. She will also be
aided by the addition of national team
member Mary Robertson, who is atten^
ding UBC for the first time.
The men's team, which suffered
through a disastrous season last year,
will be rebuilding under new coach and
former Thunderbird captain Keith
Galicano. Galicano, who is a Ph.D.
student in chemistry, played professionally last summer for the Salt Lake
TWO EXTINCT SPECIES compete in very live game Saturday night at Vancouver has thrill a
winter sports centre. Dinosaurs outlasted Thunderbirds 5-4 in this attract students, one
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race test
City   Stingers   of   the   International
Volleyball Association
"We averaged about six to seven
thousand fans a game," Galicano said.
He added the league had plans to expand to B.C. in the future.
Galicano has three returnees from
last year's team including captain Gary
Warner. Two other players have been
playing in California for a year, he
Both Roy Dawson and Dan Watts
have learned greatly, from playing in
the States, he said.
Galicano said his team's balance will
be its strength during the Canada West
"I can put six guys on the floor who
can serve equally well," he said,
"We*re going to be one of the smallest
but better skilled teams."
"This will be one of the strongest
teams UBC has had in a long time."
. The volleyball teams fell victim to
the Conservative government cutbacks
in travel funding and there will
therefore be no Canada West tournament at UBC this year. The league had
planned to expand to four tourneys but
have had to cut back to the usual three,
with the first in Saskatoon on Nov.
After the cutbacks were announced
the CWUAA decided to drop the tournament planned for UBC.
The Thunderettes will warm up for
that tournament against the powerful
University of Washington Friday night
in Seattle.
'Birds split with Calgary
At the start of this Canada West ice hockey
season, the University of Calgary Dinosaurs
were hailed as the team to beat. On the weekend, the UBC Thunderbird ice hockey team
proved it could be done.
In a two-game home series, the 'Birds
dropped the Dinos 6-4 Friday, then lost 5-4
Saturday in an end-to-end skating combat.
Leading scorer in Friday's match was Jay
Rumley with a pair of power play goals.
Other goals were scored by Hugh Cameron,
Dino Sita, Jim Allison and Bill Holowaty.
Cameron and Holowaty also picked up two
assists each.
Saturday's standout was Marty Matthews
who scored two goals to raise his season total
to 10. Other 'Birds scorers Saturday were
Holowaty and Jim McLaughlin with one goal
each while Cameron picked up his second
pair of assists in as many games.
Men's ice hockey standings
— kevin finnegan photo
minute as well as two other features designed to
of which is the price.
The 'Birds were reduced to 19 healthy
players entering the series with Calgary. UBC
coach Bert Halliwell said, he is hoping to
shorten the injury list as much as possible by
"Ted Fostey (off with a groin injury), and
Ted Cotter (recovering from a knee injury),
should be back in the lineup next weekend,"
he said.
UBC should be a serious contender from
now on in contrast to last year's 7-17 record.
"The 'Birds have at least a dozen players
with three or more seasons ahead of them,
while top teams like Calgary have a majority
of players with three or four years behind
them," said Halliwell. "If we can perform
this well when our team is young and rebuilding, we should be a real force in years to
Calgary coach George Kingston said the
number of overtime games and games decided by a single goal is evidence of the closeness
of the league this year.
Champs edge
ice hockey
The UBC Thunderettes ice hockey team
lost 4-1 to defending B.C. champions North
Delta in Vancouver Senior Girls League action on Sunday.
UBC's lone goal was scored by centre Mar-
na Mueller three minutes into second period.
It was her twelfth goal of the season.
Thunderette goalie Kathleen Corbett
played an outstanding game, stopping 24
shots on goal while her North Delta counterpart stopped 12.
UBC coach Ralph Fraser said the team's
overall confidence should improve now that
they have played the league's finest teams.
UBC is tied with Killarney for third place
with a 2-3-1 record, having performed well
against league leaders such as South Delta
and Killarney, he said.
"UBC still needs work on defensive strategy," said Fraser. "Although there has been
much improvement, more emphasis must be
laid on developing an aggressive attitude.
When the puck is in our own end, there
should be no hesitation in getting to it first
and mounting our own offensive drive."
Fraser said the fundamentals of hockey
must be reiterated often enough for them to
become second nature.
Fraser cites centre Sherri Smith, goalie
Kathleen Corbett and defencewoman Elaine
Bernard as having improved significantly in
past games.
UBC will play Surrey's Flindall team this
Sunday at the winter sports centre's main
rink. Game time is 4:45 p.m.
"Alberta downed Saskatchewan twice last
week. The first was 4-3 in overtime and the
second was 8-7 in double overtime," he said.
'Birds rookie centre Holowaty said he is
impressed with the speed and discipline of the
varsity league compared with the now-defunct Pac 'A' league. "When I played for the
Nor-Wes Caps, you did what you wanted to
do with less control from the coaches," he
said. "This is a tough league this year."
UBC winger Cameron, a linemate on the
Caps with Holowaty for two years, said it
helps to be familiar with another's playing
style when playing on the forward line. This
must be true as Cameron and Holowaty com
bined for three goals and five assists in the
Calgary series.
UBC will face off against the University of
Saskatchewan this Friday and Saturday in
Saskatoon. The games will be played at
Rutherford Rink alias 'the deep freeze,'
where it is rumored to be so cold no artificial
ice is required — they simply hose down the
rink at night.
On Sunday UBC will play the University of
Regina to make up for an earlier match halted
by a power failure after two periods with
UBC leading 3-1. The exhibition game will go
a full three periods with the first period counting towards the original game.
Women's basketball
UBC vs. Saskatchewan,
7:45 p.m., mem gym
Men's basketball
UBC vs. Saskatchewan,
8:30 p.m., mem gym
Men's ice hockey
UBC at Saskatchewan
Women's volleyball
UBC at Washington
Women's field hockey
JV's at North West College
Tournament, Tacoma
Men's squash tournament
10 a.m., winter sports centre
Women's basketball
UBc vs. Saskatchewan,
6:45 p.m., mem gym
Men's basketball
UBC vs. Saskatchewan
8:30 p.m., mem gym
Women's badminton
UBC at Mainline Tournament,
Men's ice hockey
UBC at Saskatchewan
Women's field hockey
UBC vs. Ramblers,
11 a.m., Spencer field
JV's at N.W. College
Tournament, Tacoma
Men's rugby
UBC vs. Trojans,
2:30 p.m., stadium
Men's ice hockey
UBC at Regina
(first period also counts
as third period of incomplete
game on Oct. 21)
Women's soccer
UBC vs. I.O.D.E.
10 a.m., Hastings park
Women's ice hockey
UBC vs. Flindell,
4:45 p.m., winter sports centre
— kevin finnegan photo
HOVERING EXTRATERRESTRIAL SPACECRAFT causes astonishment but not fear
among hardy group of UBC rugby players Saturday. After recovering from initial shock Ross
Breen singlehandedly crushed coneheads and vehicle before getting help from teammates in
performing similar act upon Fraser Valley reps. 'Birds return to earth and league action this
Saturday against Trojans at 2:30 p.m. in Thunderbird Stadium. Page 8
Thursday, November 15,1979
Staley strikes out
Re:    "New    Constitution
'Dangerous' " (Nov. 6):
I almost couldn't believe my eyes
when I read the article referred to
above. Two criticisms come to mind
right away.
First, what right does Bob Staley
have to "allege" that the meeting of
the Alma Mater Society code and
bylaws committee was "deliberately
scheduled to coincide with an arts
beer garden?" Where do your priorities lie, Bob? If he'd rather go to
a purely social function and rub elbows with the commoners than attend a meeting that deals with a
quite important subject (a new
AMS constitution), then perhaps he
should resign his position to someone who takes life a little more
He also accuses that ". . .there's
something wrong with the person
calling the meeting." All I can say is
that there is something wrong with
a person who walks out of an SRA
meeting, deliberately destroying a
quorum, just because he hasn't
been getting his way. My recommendations to Mr. Staley are: Open
mouth, change feet.
Secondly, what happened to objective journalism? Some would say
it went out with the high-buttoned
shoe, and I'm tempted to agree with
them. The Ubyssey has presented
quite well the views of Bob Staley,
Valgeet Johl and Dave Smith. But
what about the other side of the
coin? Was there no effort made to
get comments from other members
of the committee, particularly those
with pro-amendment opinions? I
think that the campus rag's credibility would go up if you at least printed that said people could not be
reached for comments, even if you
didn't try to reach them.
Bruce Corbet
Correct yourself . . .
When your reporter interviewed
me by telephone last month I expected him to report the facts as
stated. The story published Oct. 19,
1979 should be retracted on the
basis of inaccurate reporting or at
least corrected in part.
The story reads with a degree of
inaccuracy throughout but in particular on two major points including its headline. We are not planning to take anyone to court. The
question asked was: "Are you planning to take UBC to court over the
Swan Wooster master plan should
they decide to accept it as it
stands?" My reply was that "we
hadn't considered such action. I am
aware of similar situations where
court injunctions have been obtained, however the master plan is
shelved at the present moment and
no doubt will be modified to some
extent in which case we may support it. If the UBC should go ahead
with the original master plan then
we would have to hold a general
meeting and sit down and discuss
the possibility of such action."
The second point has to do with
the proposal of "aerial seeding of
the cliff face supervised by the UBC
Botanical Gardens." What 1 stated
was that we "recommend planting
of vegetation, shrubs and bushes
under the supervision of the UBC
Botanical Gardens." I then stated
as a separate recommendation that
aerial seeding of the cliffs be carried
out through UBC tender."
1 trust these facts can be straightened out in your next publication.
John E. Madill
Wreck beach committee
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A union is best for TAs
A recent letter to The Ubyssey from Greg Norman
commented on some possible disadvantages that teaching assistants might experience if the current teaching
assistant union drive succeeds. Since Mr. Norman's
concerns are probably shared by other TAs, we, as
members of the union, would like to reply.
Firstly, the "loss of individuality and freedom" is
probably illusory. The only freedom we would surrender is the freedom to accept gratefully whatever the
administration is generous enough to give us, if it gives
us anything. But in return, we would gain the freedom
of job security, and the freedom to negotiate our own
conditions of employment. It's not a bad trade.
The "generally pleasant working atmosphere" that
Mr. Norman writes of should not be adversely affected
by a TA union. We would naturally seek to retain a
reasonable degree of flexibility in the performance of
our duties, since this flexibility is a quality we enjoy.
What we don't enjoy is the abuse of that flexibility
which occurs within some departments — abuse that a
union contract would protect us against.
The monthly union dues will probably be around
one per cent of our pay cheque — hardly an onerous
imposition, when you consider the benefits.
It is true we may some day find ourselves seriously
considering strike action. Obviously, however, we
would do this only as a last resort. TAs want to work,
not to strike. But there are various steps we could take
short of a full-scale strike. For example, we might refuse to work more than 12 hours a week.
The possibility of the other campus Canadian Union
of Public Employees local going on strike should not
be overestimated. They have never had a strike yet.
That's not to say they never will — but if they should
some day do so, it will be our own membership who
will decide what action the TA local will take. We
would consult with the other local on this, so as to
keep hardship to a minimum.
As for the contention that full-time technicians
would be a more efficient means of teaching science
labs — we shouldn't be too fearful about this. It is correct that some department heads have spread it around
that they would replace unionized TAs with full-time
staff, but what good would it do them? A union job is
a union job — they can't solve their problems that
Moreover, we TAs tend to shrug off job problems
because we are, as Mr. Norman implies, students first
and TAs second. But full-time teaching staff would
hardly be as tolerant as we are — the administration is
better off dealing with us. Besides, how do these department heads propose to support their graduate programs if they abolish TAships?
To provide grants in lieu of TAships while paying
other staff to do TA jobs would be absurd, yet the alternative would be to let their graduate programs
dwindle to insignificance. They won't abolish TAships
— they can't afford to.
The TA system is basically a good idea, and there is
something in it for all of us — administration, faculty,
graduate students and undergrads. But it needs an
overhaul. The TA union will get a better deal for TAs,
markers and tutors, but only if enough of us support it
by joining it. We invite Mr. Norman to do so. We welcome his opinions!
Glen Porter and Lynne Cannon are enrolled in graduate studies at UBC and for them, a TA union is a
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Page 11
PQ airs association plan
From page 12
a yes or no answer on the government's proposal. The actual question has not yet been determined.
' The next step is negotiation. The
white paper authors are assured
that if the people of Quebec say yes
in the referendum, "Ottawa and the
rest of Canada, though they will be
disappointed, will have no choice;
they will negotiate."
The reception the white paper
received last week in the national
assembly was far from warm. The
PQ knew they would not be greeted
with open arms when they brought
forth their proposals. Yet, they
assert with defiance that the federal
government will negotiate. The en-
Olympic bid
could mean
new homes
CALGARY (CUP) — The University of Calgary might get a $23
million student residence if Calgary
is successful in its bid for the 1988
Winter Olympics.
Plans for the residence are awaiting the outcome of a university report on student housing scheduled
for completion at the end of next
The complex would hold 2,000
students and would probably be
suitable for married couples. Part
of the $23 million would be used to
upgrade existing dining facilities
and tunnels, according to Frank
King, chair of the Calgary Olympic
development association.
University president Norman
Wagner cautioned that "nothing
has been decided at all" on the project, but says there have been talks
between CODA and the board of
Wagner feels one of the disadvantages of the proposal is the number of years it would take to implement the plan.
"It'll be several years and I'm not
sure we can wait that long," he
He emphasized that the university is concerned with the housing
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tire proposal unfortunately rests on
the willingness of the Clark government to "play ball" with the PQ.
Herein lies the problem with the
white paper. Too much is left to the
whim of Ottawa. As they explain in
the opening pages, the federal
government has a habit of not
listening to the provinces. Why will
they be more inclined to listen this
This can be partially answered by
the last chapter of the white paper.
The resources that Quebec has at its
disposal make it a rich area, and
this in turn gives it political clout.
But deadlock upon deadlock has
shown that the federal government
will not even discuss the proposal.
"It's absolutely unacceptable,"
they say.
The white paper concludes with a
message from premier Levesque.
The tone of the letter is a familiar
one, he speaks as he always speaks:
with defiance and vitality. His
words    are   encouragina    and    he
hopes to spur people on to claiming
what is rightfully theirs. He reiterates what is said in a previous
chapter about the effects of a no
answer in the referendum. It would
be a setback for Quebec, "from
which they would have trouble recovering."
claim of some English-Canadians
that if Quebecers vote no in the
referendum, reforms in Canadian
federalism would be made. He
quotes the words of Robert Cliche,
a federalist who said, "1 think that
one of the biggest dangers now
would be a no in the referendum.
English would then think that the
crisis had been averted and go back
to sleep."
Cliche had reason to worry. No
one should think that the crisis can
be avoided. For Quebec and
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"I used to think banks
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"I used to think banks were huge
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they weren't fussy about women in
management, and you can see I had a
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Look forTD recruiters onyour campus soon. Page 12
Thursday, November 15, 1979
Quebec turns sovereignty into
black and white association
Canadian University Press
government's white paper on sovereignty association last week proved once and for all
that the Parti Quebecois is not playing
Throughout Levesque's first turbulent
years countless politicians, educators and
soap box orators have claimed the PQ would
never pull off the referendum, much less establish a sovereign state with an association
with Canada.
But now the reality of a full-length text,
outlining the importance of such a "new
deal" and detailing the necessary steps, cannot be ignored. Yes, the PQ means business.
Quebec-Canada: A New Deal begins with
an historical overview of the French in Canada. The determination of the Quebecois is
presented with a brief summary of the conflicts caused by the British takeover of the St.
Lawrence Valley in 1763.
The francophone opposition to confederation — it was denounced by the Quebec Liberals and 22 of the 49 Quebec members of
parliament rejected it — and anti-conscription attitudes among the French Canadians
are but two historic examples of Quebec feeling differently towards an issue than the rest
of Canada.
alist system, and more specifically the trend
towards centralization, is clearly outlined by
the Quebec government. There is no condemnation of the system: on the contrary there is
a realization that federalism is favorable to
the anglophone community and works well in
the rest of Canada.
"The increased powers and influence of
the central government corresponded to the
aspirations of the English-Canadian community, which quite naturally saw this 'national' government as the main instrument of
its progress as a society."
But Quebecers, says the PQ, do not see the
federal government helping them to grow as a
society. In fact, they have been a hindrance.
The intervention of Ottawa in provincial
matters has, they say, weakened the role of
the provinces, and in this case, Quebec.
The federal government "invasion" in
areas of provincial jurisdiction has also resulted in unnecessary federal-provincial overlapping. These duplications of effort are not
only costly, but also create an unnecessary rivalry between Ottawa and the provinces.
"It forces government, both federal and
provincial, into a climate of competition with
no clear division of powers and resources, in
an attempt to get around'a constitutional
problem that has become impossible to solve
and to satisfy the needs of the population."
The white paper rejects the notion of "renewed federalism" as being unworkable. A
Royal Commission on Bilingualism and Biculturalism, created in 1963 by Lester Pearson's government, raised two interesting
questions which the Parti Quebecois feels
„„r, ^*Mj|
LEVESQUE . . . hopes to repeat
election shocker
"renewed federalism" does not and cannot
"What in fact does equality of the two languages and the two cultures mean, and under
what conditions can it be realized?
"Do Canadians want this equality? Do
they accept the conditions under which it
could be achieved?"
The white paper states that "renewed federalism" is a confusing expression: it means
different things to English and French
"Certainly Quebecers, when they talk of
'renewed federalism' because they are dissatisfied wjth the status quo, think of a serious
and substantial transformation of the system,
not a cosmetic job.
"English Canadians, on the other hand,
give quite a different meaning to the term: it
is a 'touched up' federalism that they want,
since they feel that any reform must totally
respect the role and the prerogatives of the
central government, seen as the 'national
government' of all Canadians."
pains to ensure that people understand that
autonomy for Quebec is the will of the people.
"It is the manifestation of the firm conviction of Quebecers that they constitute a distinct community and people."
The meat of the white paper is the explanation of sovereignty association and its implications. The description given in the white
paper should, once and for all, dispel all
myths of what it is. Clearly and concisely,
sovereignty association would:
"Ensure for Quebec a maximum of autonomy while maintaining the natural interdependence and the historical and human links
that exist between Quebec and the rest of
Part of the uproar at the present, since opponents of the PQ can no longer say they are
bluffing, is the assertion that sovereignty association is nothing short of independence. It
is claimed that Levesque is trying to pull the
wool over the eyes of the rest of Canada: he
has no intentions of negotiating with Ottawa,
he just wants out.
Obviously the definition of the word independence has never been so much in question. No country is ever really independent
because economic realities preclude the possibility of a country providing everything its
people need.
Although some people chose to mistrust
the word of the PQ in the white paper and
other public statements, they surely cannot
ignore the reality that Quebec or any existing
country cannot survive without interdependence. Premier Levesque is well aware that a
sovereign Quebec cannot work without association.
Some specifics of the proposed state of
Quebec are:
• There will be a single government for
Quebec and taxes would be paid only to Quebec.
• All residents of Quebec will have an
automatic right to Quebec citizenship.
• Quebec will remain in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and will ask to be
admitted to the United Nations.
• The Canadian dollar will be the only
currency of Quebec.
• Goods and people may circulate freely
between Quebec and Canada, meaning there
will be no customs barriers at common
• Quebec's anglophone community will
maintain the rights they now have.
uous. Admittedly, the white paper was not
designed to calm the fears of anglophones in
Quebec. Yet, there is a certain amount of
confusion and worry among the English population of this province and it must be addressed.
Although the white paper asserts that the
minorities in Quebec will have at their disposal "the community facilities and cultural
instruments with which they will be able to
develop their heritage on their own," the
Quebec government does not take into account the likelihood of a diminishing English
What will be the place of English Quebecers in the state of Quebec when they represent
10 per cent or less of the population? Will the
government provide funds and facilities to allow English to flourish in Quebec? Will they
keep their promise to "joffer them the ideal
surroundings in which to live and grow?"
While the government readily admits the
white paper does not answer every question,
the role of minorities is painfully absent. The
English should not be made to feel they are
being cast aside. The French should
remember not to be guilty of the same crime
they accuse the English of committing: ignoring the minorities.
ly slated for May or June of 1980 and will be
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