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The Ubyssey Oct 22, 1996

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money circulates
on campus
T-Bird men clinch
Canada West playoff spot
Michelle Shocked
returns to Vancouver
Doing 140 in a 90 zone since 1918
Public condemns community plan
on a petition against
Bob Hancock hits up William Mohn for his John Hancock
the university's current plan, richard lam photo
by Desiree Adib
UBC's Official Community Plan proved widely
unpopular at last Tuesday's public hearing on
More than 200 student, faculty and neighbourhood representatives attended the
GVRD's meeting to discuss UBC's development plans for a 162-hectare triangle of land
south of West 16th avenue.
Over 3 5 people spoke, expressing concerns
about ecological, transit and housing issues.
Many speakers were also concerned
with the governance of OCP lands,
which currently do not fall under any
municipal government's jurisdiction.
Since the provincial government
is studying the governance issue and
is expected to recommend a structure for local government in the next
two years, many argued the OCP
should be delayed until the area has some
form of elected government.
"The AMS recommends that the GVRD
tables the OCP until such time that a responsible elected government body is in place and
can be responsible to the members of this
community," said AMS Coordinator of
External Affairs Allison Dunnet.
Bill Evert, a resident in the University
Endowment Lands (UEL) area and a member
of the planning advisory committee was also
concerned with governance. "My concern is
getting the university to commit to some kind
of independent third-party elected final decision making process."
He said the Board of Governors is not an
appropriate body to stand as the local government for the prospective 25,000 UEL residents the OCP calls for.
Many also opposed the shutde bus service
that is to serve the new development, and
called for a main bus route go through the
"A shuttle bus usually entails infrequent
service and limited hours," said Graduate
Student Society representative Micheal
Hughes, "Why would people give up their cars
if this is the alternative?"
"I would be the last to claim
that all the faculty members
are informed about this issue"
Dan Birch
ubc vice-president academic
Speakers also accused OCP planners of not
seeking enough public input in the process.
Bob Hancock, professor of Microbiology, said
the OCP is "a vision of a very small number of
people" and that the planning process has
been unconsultative and unrepresentative of
faculty and students of this campus.
"Information was not available in a fashion
that was truly accessible to the average faculty
member," said Hancock.
Dan Birch, UBC's vice-president academic,
admitted that it was not possible to inform
everybody on the OCP.
"I would be the last to claim that all the faculty members are informed about this issue or
anything else on this campus," said Birch. ♦
Environment ignored by OCP, critics say
by Irfan Dhalla
UBC is ignoring its own environmental
assessment in its rush to develop the
south campus, according to both planners and critics of the Official
Community Plan.
"What is the message that [the OCP]
sends?" asked Microbiology professor
George Spiegelman. "The message is
'the heck with the environment. We've
got to get some dollars. And everything
will be okay as long as we get some dollars."
The assessment in question was performed by Talisman Land Resource
Consultants and ranked areas on campus according to their biological sensitivity.
The Talisman study recommended
that planners "preserve forest areas with
the highest biological sensitivity first,
beginning with the mature forest unit in
the southeast quadrant of ihe 16th Ave-
nue/Wesbrook Mall intersection."
That quadrant is one of the areas
designated for housing development in
the OCP. Hugh Kellas, a GVRD planner
who assisted designing the OCP, said he
believed development in the area was
justified. "That's where it was the most
appropriate location. It's really a tradeoff between housing and trees," said
Spiegelman, who has campaigned
against the OCP since the beginning of
the planning process, said none of the
Talisman recommendations are being
followed. "There's a list of critical environmental areas in there, and the only
thing they decided to not develop is the
north slope by Cecil Green House," he
Critics of the OCP said that developing the area near the southeast corner
of 16th and Wesbrook could have far-
reaching ecological ramifications. "That
area happens to be part of the headwaters of Cutthroat Creek, which supports
one of the last trout populations in
Greater Vancouver," said Jeremy Forst,
a member of the Student Environment
Centre. "The development will not be
environmentally sound."
Moura Quayle, a member of the OCP
Planning Advisory Committee and a
professor of Landscape Architecture,
said that while the OCP is imperfect, it
should still be passed. She agreed that
the plan ignores recommendations
made by Talisman, and said the OCP
does not go far enough in protecting
UBC's forest setting. However, Quayle
said, more detailed planning may be
able to address its shortcomings. "I'm
frustrated with the process, but I feel
that we have to move on the next level
in order to grapple with the real problems," she said.
But many other faculty at last
Tuesday's public hearing said development concerns should be addressed
now. Professor Bob Hancock presented
a faculty petition recommending the
OCP's approval be delayed.
"225 individuals signed [the petition] in the five days we were collecting
signatures, he said. "With more effort
and time I feel we could have easily
obtained the signatures of 50 percent of
the faculty." ♦
Will the OCP pass?
In an informal poll. The Ubyssey asked students J
and faculty if they thought the Official Community Plan would be approved by the GVRD.
"I think the OCP will be tabled until there's]
a governance structure in place. It would be
ludicrous to pass it in the face of the opposition |
that exists." - David Borins, AMS president
"We are awaiting a negative decision of the ]
GVRD, since this would seem to be the only
appropriate response to the waterfall of nega-1
tive opinion expressed [at the public hearing].
- Bob Hancock, professor of Microbiology
"I don't think it will be postponed, but 11
think that they may modify some transit things |
in the plan." - Michael Hughes, GSS
"I would suspect that the review panel will |
listen to all those considered opinions, and suggest that [the OCP] be delayed. That's my gut I
feeling." - Moura Quayle, professor of I
Landscape Architecture, member of the OCP|
Planning Advisory Committee
"I hope that it won't go through. I think I
there's a greater chance of it not passing than |
it passing." - Jeremy Forst, SEC.
The GVRD public hearing will make its recom-1
mendation today, and the GVRD Board of
Directors will vote on the OCP on November 1. ♦ I 2   THE UBYSSEY, OCTOBER 22, 1996
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Poll promised on grad venue change
 by Chris Nuttall-Smith
UBC is giving students a say in where they
graduate next spring, although it may not take
their advice.
The Ubyssey reported on October 8th that
student leaders and some administrators were
unhappy with the university's plans to move
graduation ceremonies from War Memorial
Gym to the new Chan Centre for the
Performing Arts.
Those concerns led to a meeting last week
between student leaders and university
President David Strangway.
"We came out of the meeting with more
than we had expected," Commerce Senator
Adam Legge said.
Legge, Dean of Commerce Michael
Goldberg, Senator-at-Large Chris Gorman and
AMS Policy Analyst Desmond Rodenbour
attended the meeting.
Rodenbour said the president agreed to work
with the AMS on a student poll, but would not
commit to binding himself to the poll's results.
At issue is the number of guests graduates
can bring to the ceremonies. Until this year
graduation was held at the War Memorial
Gym, where students in most faculties could
bring an unlimited number of guests. The
Chan Centre's 1350 seat capacity means most
students will be allowed only four guests.
Vice-President  Ceremonies   and   Events
RCMP issues counterfeit warning
by Brad Davis
Canada Post Publications
Sales Agreement Number
UBC's RCMP detachment is warning all campus vendors and students to watch out for
counterfeit $ 10 bills.
The warning comes after two bills, bearing
two different serial numbers, were identified
as fake. However, despite the warning, RCMP
Corporal Doug Gambicourt says counterfeit
money on campus is not a widespread problem.
"To my knowledge, we've only had one incident of this on campus," he said. "There's not a
heck of a lot we can do unless the person passing it can be identified, and then, they probably
got it from somewhere else and are unaware
that it's counterfeit."
Campus change machines are not accepting
$10 bills; an explanation on each machine
blames counterfeit money. But a spokesperson
for Versafood Vending Services, the company
which manages the on-campus vending and
change machines, says the policy is a result of
counterfeit problems in Burnaby, not UBC.
"To my knowledge, no counterfeit money
has been passed at UBC this year, we just put
this up as a warning across the lower mainland," he said.
He did, however, say UBC's vending
machines had been defrauded in the past.
"What we've done here is to protect ourselves,
and also to protect the students, so they know
what is going on."
Police are asking cashiers on campus to
check the authenticity of all $10 bills, take an
accurate description of anyone they suspect of
using counterfeit money and notify the authorities immediately. ♦
Charles Slonecker also said he didn't know
whether the poll's results would be binding.
But students warn that university officials
should take the poll seriously. "I think Dr.
Strangway has a concern for students and he
does take their interests to heart, but if the poll
were to show that students resoundingly wanted [graduation] in War Memorial and he did
not stick to his agreement we would try to use
Senate power to have the venue changed."
Gorman, Legge and Rodenbour hope to
meet with Slonecker this week to come up with
a polling plan. Legge said polling should start
in two or three weeks.
When approached by The Ubyssey,
Strangway refused to comment. ♦
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Soccer Birds clinch first place
by Wolf Depner
Even though the regular season is
not quite over, the soccer Birds
are already looking forward to the
Last weekend, the first-placed
men's soccer team clinched home
field advantage for tlie Canada
West play-off final against archrival Victoria Vikes.
But head coach Mike Mosher
and his lads didn't exactly break
out the bubbly following Sunday's
3-0 clincher over the Lethbridge
"There are still a lot of preparations to be done," explained
Mosher. "[Clinching home field] is
the first of three goals that this
team set out to achieve."
Their other two goals are to win
the Canada West final and CIAU
nationals at York University; and
Mosher knows those goals won't
come easy.
Neither did Saturday's 2-0 win
over the Calgary Dinosaurs.
UBC took a well-deserved 1-0
lead at the 15 minute mark when
Nico Berg's long pass from left
midfield found Mark Rogers
streaking down the right side.
Rogers then blasted the ball home
from seven yards out for his third
goal of the season.
The Birds then lost all sense of
direction for the next half hour
and were flattered by the 1-0 half-
time lead.
There were far too many turnovers in the offensive midfield
while the Birds'defence looked
shaky against an average Calgary
team. But the Birds got back on
track early in the second half and
had three quality scoring chances
to put Calgary away.
Ken Strain sealed UBC's victory
in the 73 rd minute with a brilliant
individual effort. A long pass
allowed Strain to break free down
the far right side. He then
undressed one defender, cut back
into the middle and with one
defender still on him, slipped the
ball into the net from seven yards
out for his fifth goal of the season.
While the Birds struggled
against the Dinos, Sunday's 3-0
win over Lethbridge was far less
With six regulars resting, the
Birds still dominated play and had
enough chances for more than
three goals.
Nico Berg scored his first of the
season in the 14th minute with a
lovely header off Jason Levit's
cross. Ken Strain then made it 2-0
in the 32nd rninute on a partial
The second half was even more
UBC pushed the ball around
with confidence and had several
good chances to increase their
lead. Lethbridge, meanwhile,
barely got to sniff the Birds' goal.
Matt Pye's first goal of the season rounded out the final scoring
moments before the whistle.
The 8-1 Birds will host the SFU
Clansmen this Tuesday in the
Charity Cup and finish up the regular season with a home-date
against the Victoria Vikes in a
Canada West final preview. ♦
Puckbirds split series
with Pronghorns
by Normie Chan and Wolf Depner
In Gunnar We Trust.
UBC forward Gunnar Henrikson scored
four goals Saturday night as the Birds turned
the Lethbridge Pronghorns into roadkill with
an 8-2 drubbing.
The win gave the Birds a split in the two
game weekend series after the Pronghorns
spoiled the Birds' home-opener with a 6-3 win
Friday night.
Special teams made the difference Saturday
While the Pronghorns struggled on the pow-
erplay (0 for 7), the Birds scored three times
with the man-advantage and Corey Stock
added a short-handed goal at 7:39 in the second period to put UBC up 4-1.
"Our powerplay came alive [Saturday
night]," explained UBC head coach Mike Coflin.
So did Gunnar Henrikson. "Everything
seemed to go into the net," said Henrikson who
was quick to credit his team-mates. "It was a
great team effort... We came out and we were
ready from the start."
The same can't be said of Friday's game. The
Birds played lousy without the puck and went
zero for six on the powerplay.
UBC's penalty killers didn't fare much better as the Pronghorns connected four times
with the man-advantage.
Both teams played physically in
Friday's game, but it was Lethbridge
who drew first blood when defence-
man Clay Awe scored on the powerplay
at 4:38 in the first period with a hard
blast from the point.
UBC tied the game at 12:34 when
Tim Davis dumped the puck into
Lethbridge's zone. The puck bounced
off a stick straight to Dan Nakaoka
who buried the puck through Ryan
Nessman's five-hole.
Lethbridge then regained the lead
on the powerplay 3:29 into the period
when Jarret Zukiwsky's wrist shot got
past UBC goalie Dave Trofimenkoff
who was screened on the play.
Sandy Hayer's goal at 5:03 tied the game at 2
as he ripped a loose puck into the top-right corner.
But it was all downhill for UBC from then on
in as Lethbridge scored twice within two minutes to lead 4-2 heading into the final period.
The Pronghorns then put the game away
with two third period powerplay goals.
Saturday's game was a complete reversal of
Friday's. The Birds came out with intensity and
played smart without the puck.
Ryan Douglas' powerplay goal gave UBC a 1-
0 lead at 6:07 ofthe first period.
Pavel Suchanek made it 2-0 at 13:07. He
cruised unchecked into the slot and beat Ryan
BRAD EDGINGTON fights off Jason Distewich (16) during
Saturday night's win over the Horns, richard lam photo
Nessman on a weak shot through the five-hole.
Lethbridge got one back early in the second
when UBC rookie goalie Jon Sikkema was beaten on Jason Disiewich's powder-puff shot from
the right circle.
It was Sikkema's only major mistake as he
made 32 saves to win his first regular season
The Birds maintained the pressure and
scored three times within six minutes to take a
5-1 lead into the final period.
UBC didn't let up in the third period and
added three more goals. The final tally was 8-2
for the Birds. ♦
Field hockey
The women's field hockey team
finished the final Canada West
tournament with 3-1 record to
place third with a 7-3-2 record,
tied with Victoria Vikes. UBC will
have to wait until next week to
find whether or not the Birds will
get one ofthe two wildcard spots
in the CIAU nationals. UBC
opened the tournament with a 0-
3 loss. The Birds then bounced
back with a 2-1 win over Calgary
and disposed of Manitoba 4-0.
The Birds then upset top-ranked
Alberta Pandas 3-2. Leading goal
scorer fot £he Birds was Sherry
Leah Victor with three goals.
The Football Birds got help
over the weekend as the Calgary
Dinosaurs defeated the.Alberta
Golden Bears 28-7. The.Birds
now control their own destiny
and can make the playoffs with
wins against Calgary this week
and lowly Manitoba next week. ♦
Women's team ousted from soccer playoffs
by Wolf Depner
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
The women's soccer team will
miss the Canada West post-season
for the first time ever after being
ranked first at the season's start.
UBC was officially eliminated
from play-off contention this
weekend when Alberta defeated
Saskatchewan 4-0 Saturday, and
the Birds lost to Calgary.
Calgary Dinosaur Steph O'Neill
buried the Birds when she scored
in the 70th minute for the game's
only goal in Saturday's 0-1 loss.
While Calgary capitalised on its
only major scoring chance, UBC couldn't unhinge Calgary's defence, which
improved as the game progressed.
"We had the intensity, we just
couldn't finish," explained striker
Zoe Adrian.
"You can't fault the team's effort,"
said head coach Dick Mosher. "If a
team puts in that much effort, you
would like to see some results, but
we still have ourselves to blame."
Needing a win, the Birds
attacked from the start and dominated play. But they lacked
patience and imagination around
Calgary's penalty box.
UBC's lone offensive highlight
in the first half was in the 35th
minute when Zoe Adrian scored
from five yards out.
But the goal was disallowed on
the off-side rule.
The Birds continued to push
forward in the second half, but
generated few chances.
UBC's best second half chance
came in the 65 th minute when Liz
Conner blasted the ball from 18
yards out.
But the Calgary keeper made a
brilliant leaping save to keep the
game scoreless until O'Neill put
the top-ranked Dinos on tlie winning track five minutes later.
A through ball sprung O'Neill
free down the left side and she
calmly tucked the ball into the bottom left corner from 12 yards out
past  UBC   rookie   keeper   Sara
Collings who had come out to cut
down the angle.
With nothing on the line,
Sunday's 3-1 win over lowly
Lethbridge had no meaning
except for the final standings.
Despite sitting out three regulars, the Birds came out focused,
maintained the pressure and
finally took the lead in the 33rd
minute when Adrian's header
bounced into the goal for her
fourth goal of the season and her
first in five games.
The Birds took a 2-0 lead in the
52 nd minute on Brandy
Heatherington's second goal of
the season. But that lead did not
last long as UBC keeper Lisa
Archer misjudged Chelsey
Riedel's shot and allowed it to
skip into the net.
Jessica Mann restored UBC's
two goal lead in the 75th minute
with a low shot that hand-coughed
UBC will wrap up the regular at
home against the Victoria Vikes. ♦ 4   THE UBYSSEY, OCTOBER 22, 1996
Hardcore logo more than just a slick flic
'  by Richelle Rae
"Spinal Tap's mean lean little brother" is
how director Bruce MacDonald describes his
latest cinematic adventure Hard Core Logo.
Does the film live up to the description?
Yes and no.
Yes, because a large part of the film is
done in the spirit of the legendary Spinal
Tap, documentary style.
No, because Bruce MacDonald goes a little wacky with his post-production special
effects which detract from the gritty, spontaneous, realistic feel that a documentary film
typically possesses. The film becomes a little
too slick, if that is possible for a Canadian
film, and at times verges on looking like a
MTV rock video.  (Perhaps this can be
explained b}r the fact that MacDonald has
made several rock videos over th e last few
years.) However, the departure from the traditional is what makes Hard Core Logo a
movie worth seeing.
Hard Core Logo is a ficticious story about
four guys in a punk rock band who embark
on an ill-fated reunion tour across Canada.
The screenplay was adapted from a book by
Vancouver's resident 'poet laureate'
Micheal Turner. Having read the book
before seeing the film, I have to admit that
Noel S. Baker does an admirable job of
adding both depth and individuality to the
characterisation ofthe band members while
maintaining the poetry of Micheal Turner's
original story.
Hugh DiUinn and Bernie Coulson both
star in the film. T had the chance to ask them
what makes Hard Core Logo different from
every other movie about sex, drugs, and rock
n'roll? Answer:"It's Canadian. I don't think
that there's.actually been a Canadian rock
n'roll movie before," That fact alone brings
both a unique feel and a distinctive flavour to
the film that MacDonald has proven to be talented at exploiting and developing.
What makes this film worth standing in
line for on a rainy October night is not just
the great script or MacDonald's intuitive
direction, but uie outstanding performances
by the ensemble cast. Hugh Dillion as Joe
Dick, the talented but egomaniacal lead
singer and guitarist of the band, is everything that Bruce Willis and every other crap
Hollywood actor would like to be. In a word:
magnetic. Callum Keith Rennie playing Billy
Talent has screen presence oozing out of
every pore. Bernie Coulson described his
character Pipefitter as "a Celtic man who
would slice off your head off for a case of
beer." Coulson is hilarious as the band's
drummer, delivering some of the most
comedic moments of the film. And John
Pyper Ferguson as John Qxenburger reminds
us that even punk rock bands have their hidden poets and tortured souls despite outward appearances.
See this film. MacDonald, cast and crew
remind us "that is isn't the money that
makes a good movie but the bus-load of
faith that gets you by." And this film, more
than any Canadian venture I've seen proves
it. ♦
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Who nostalgia: 'reign over me'
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HUGH DILLON goes Hard Core, richard lam photo
The Who
Thurs. night Gm place
The Who concert was a bad nostalgic
trip—nothing more than a short
video presentation, with the band
playing in between the breaks.
Predictably, the music was very
polished, but lacked energy and
youthful drive. There were some classic Who moves, including Roger
Daltry swinging his microphone by
its chord. Pete Townsend also traded
his acoustic guitar for an electric and
performed his classic windmill move,
which was a definite crowd pleaser.
Unfortunately, there was no soul, no
acing guitar sound behind it
Townsend did, however, save the
show by singing a tune with his
acoustic guitar on an empty stage.
The show's video clips were a
shorter version of the cult classic
Quadrophenia. Dubbed with an overacted monologue by Quadrophenia's
hero, the video also contained classic
live black and white footage of mods
doing mod tilings, like scooter runs.
Since many hard core mods were
upset when Sting was cast as the Ace
(head mod) in the Quadrophenia
movie, that footage was noticeably
purged this time around.
Some of the concert's guest stars
included Gary Glitter and a mod
onstage on a Vespa. Billy's singing
was great; he was a crowd pleaser.
The problem with the show was
that Quadrophenia was about the
problems facing a lower class
British mod teenager.
Is it possible for The Who, at then-
ripe old age, to feel connected to this
material? Is it possible for the geezer
North American audience to have an
understanding of mod culture?
For all the hard core mods, there
is comfort in knowing that Weller's
band The Jam are still out there,
integriiy intact. For the rest of us,
there is reassurance in knowing that
Kurt Cobain will never pull a stunt
like this. ♦
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Hear this
poet and writer of
fiction read from
her latest work:
"Other Women"
Tuesday. October 29.1996
at 12:30 PM
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Vancouver, B.C.
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7:00 PM
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The political songstress that really shocks
by Jenna Newman
It's been a long time since Michelle Shocked released
Arkansas Traveler, but don't think she hasn't been
The reason for her silence? Shocked was trapped in
recording limbo and fighting against Mercury
Records. "They wouldn't let me out of the contract,"
she says, "but they didn't have any material to release
because they wouldn't pay for the studio time for me
to make it in the first place."
Not willing to accept this stifling, Shocked took
matters into her own hands, and made a demo
version of Kind Hearted Woman—a series of
stark, painful stories of struggles in rural
America. Fitting, since the album comes out of
Shocked's own last few years of struggles and
Everyday life is a hard place, but Shocked renders
it with compassion arid beauty. Sometimes quiet,
sometimes barely containing rage and sometimes triumphant, the songs evoke a very real community.
Shocked masterfully presents several different voices, breathing life into each "storysong" with the cry,
laugh or whisper that it demands. Each detail and
nuance, echoing with resonance, say far more than
their simplicity would suggest, giving the album a
haunted feel.
Known for her political activism as well as her
music, Shocked affirms that this is a political album,
but not, she says, in the "pedagogic Billy Bragg
anthem" sense of the word. "I feel it's a very salient
political point to say that when you have the choice
and [make] the decision to grow up, to accept responsibility, to mature and not to allow your fear of losing
you ideals and your identity as a rabble rouser — and
trust [in your own] growing and changing — you will
become a more whole person, a more integrated person, and therefore a better citizen.
"On Kind Hearted Woman, there are so many narratives told that are not autobiographical," Shocked
says. "These days, empathy is the most salient political
tool any flunking person could have, empathising with
experiences that may not be your own."
Kind Hearted Woman's vividness invites the listeners into its small towns and farms, not only to watch
what goes on there, but to feel it.
Touring now with "a really kicking new band",
the Casualties of Wah, Michelle Shocked is playing
at Vancouver's Rage on Thursday, October 24. The
show includes material from Kind Hearted
Woman, and from the Mercury trilogy Short Sharp
Shocked, Captain Swing and Arkansas Traveler
songs, as well as songs from a New Orleans project
and a R&B project—where she thinks her true voice
"This four year limbo that Mercury had put me in
could be seen as 'now I really need to buckle under
and get serious about getting that one pop hit.' Or,"
Shocked muses, "I could say I've been creative, I've
been alive and well, and just because I haven't put out
a record in four years in no way means that I haven't
been creative and fertile.' That's what the show represents, I think, more than anything." ♦
Figaro sings one heluffa buffo
by Alison Cole
"The Marriage of Figaro"
October 19,22,24,26 & 28
at the Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Vancouver Opera has served up a
creatively-crafted blend of love,
betrayal, deceit, mistaken identities
and brash silliness as its premiare
production of the season. Mozart's
grand opera buffa The Marriage of
Figaro (sung in Italian with English
surtitles) made a spectacular debut
on opening night, wowing the audience with its ingenuously talented
cast and the ebullient magic of 18th
century. music. Wolfgang himself
would have been proud.
One of the starring roles in a potpourri of international singers went
to Australian baritone Peter
Coleman-Wright, who portrays Count
Almaviva. American bass-baritone
Richard Bernstein plays Figaro; and
sopranos Helena Kaupova, from
Czechoslovakia, and Jee Hyun Lim of
Korea, act as the Countess and
Susanna (Figaro's future wife),
respectively. Special recognition
should be given to Israeli lyric soprano Rinat Shaham for a superior performance as Cherubino, the hormone-crazed pageboy. Adding some
Canadian content to the cast are
bass-baritone Taras Kulish (Antonio,
the "drunken" gardener and
Susanna's uncle) and soprano
Monica Huisman (Barbarina,
Antonio's daughter).
Though supported by a cast of
world-renowned artists boasting
impressive resumes, one wonders
why the Vancouver Opera Ensemble
doesn't make more use of local talent.
The opera begins with a dramatic
storyline reminiscent of a present-
day tv soap opera. The first three acts
move swiftly along as the story
unravels and evolves into affairs of
distrust, shocking discoveries and
comedic situations. However, by the
fourth and final act, the intertwined
plots become increasingly confusing
as more and more characters arrive
on stage, assuming each others'
identities, hiding behind statues and
spouting incomprehensible dialogue. This final "garden scene"
drags on to the end of the three-and-
a-half hours, and inviting drooping
eyelids in the theatre. The orchestral
music, however, helps compensate
for any lack of interest on stage.
The Marriage of Figaro exemplifies all aspects of a great opera comedy; this is one presentation not to be
The Vancouver Opera's next production is Janacek's Jenufa, November 23 to December 2. ♦
RICHARD BERNSTEIN, Helena Kaupova and Jee Hyun Lim star in Mozarfs The Marriage of Figaro.
The film maker that ate the Vancouver International Film Festival
by Robin Yeatman
Interview with Alan Williams and Michael
McNamara of The Cockroach that Ate
Cincinnati at the Vancouver International Film
Director Michael McNamara has said, *I
always like to say that the camera always
lies.* ARbt seeing his first feature,72ze
Cockroach that Ate Cincinnati, these
words take on a certain wisdom.
Originally a stage play by Alan
Williams, The Cockroach is a story about
on a cantankerous, cynical man known as
"the Captain" (Alan Williams) who is
caught between fame and obscurity.
"The original show was really about
someone who was pissed off about the
'60s, and how things hadn't panned out,"
Williams explains.
Indeed, the Captain appears to be
pissed off with the world, spewing out stories and philosophy about his life in an
intense attempt at making a film about
himself. Williams says the character is
"dissatisfied with everything" and has "a
mind with no brakes."
William's said he was inspired
when no work turned up. "I got flat,
stoney broke. So in desperation, I
thought,     I'll     write     some-     j t^..
thing...Anyway, I did it and it
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No arguments here: The J
Cockroach is a funny, yet
serious film, that leaves a strong impression on the viewer. Those who lived
through the '60s and 70s will appreciate
the constant allusions to the time.
And although Williams is aware the
concentration on these two decades might
narrow the film's target audience, he says
couldn't have written The Cockroach any
other way.
"There would be na.point in me trying
to write the life of a '90s teenage slacker.
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I don't talk to them enough. It was a matter of me picking a subject that I felt some
kind of authority about."
The film not only tells the Captain's
story, but also says. a.lot about the mak
ing of movies. Victoria and Terry
Blossom, the amateurs who are filming
the Captain, have an important voice in
the film.
"We thought, to have these characters
who are not professional filmmakers,  would  allow us  to have  a
love/hate relationship with the
medium  of film  itself,"  says
McNamara.     Including     the
Blossoms in the film tells a
"o"" story within a story. "Layers
of people are participating
in the telling of the story,"
McNamara says.
While the story originally belongs to
the Captain, it is passed on to Victoria,
then Terry, then McNamara and finally,
the viewer."'"There are varying degrees in
which the audience has to decide how
much of this they are going to take as fact,
and how much they're going to take as fiction."
As expected with a low budget film,
there were many obstacles. Chasing an
imaginary field of crows for a dramatic
scene was Alan's favourite. Finding a
heap of rubble instead of the building on
which their title was to be painted was
another minor setback. And, pf course,
problems with cameras and unfocussed
film were frustrating, McNamara and
Williams are now able to laugh about
these little snags. "The film still kept the
spirit of the stage play despite all the
plans that went awry and all the things we
intended to do but didn't," says Williams.
For Williams and McNamara, the
future looks busy; they will be making
another film. And although they say it will
not be a sequel, if it is anything like The
Cockroach it will be well worth seeing. ♦
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of approximately $1,600 has been made available by
the late Dr. William G. Black. The topic for the essay
will be designed to attract students from all disciplines.
The competition is open to students who are enrolled
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Date: Saturday, November 2,1996
Time: 10:00 AM-12 Noon
Place: Angus 110 6 THE UBYSSEY.OCTOBER 22
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Carolyn Mcintosh is off the apple juice,
for good this time! Desire Adibe is sticking to her Fresca. Irfan Dhala is a Dr.
Pepper. Brad Davis just wants some old-
fashioned lemonade. Chris Nuttall-Smith
drinks virgin daiquiries. Loretta Seto is
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he's a Bud man. Jenna Newman and
Robin Yeatman think chocolate milk
comes from chocolate cows. Normie
Chan wants Sam to pour him a beer.
Richelle Rae is stayin' alive with 5 Alive.
Daniel Ariaratnam likes Blue Hawaiis.
Joe Clark, on the other hand, only likes
drinks with a pinkish hue. Alison Cole,
Sarah O'Donnell, and Nick Bouton think
Coke is it. Scott Hayward, Clare Atzema
and Richard Lam are diving into Nestea.
Federico Barahona and Emily Mak want
another chi-chi. Wesley Chiang and Nina
Greco know how to make Tequila body
slams. Katheryn Chan and Ian Gunn are
sipping out of Peter Chattaway's fuzzy
University has closed mind on open planning
In the past month, there has been a lot talk
about the Official Community Plan and its
impact on the university's future. Last
Tuesday's public hearing on the proposed
development proved that people are unhappy
with both the OCP and the process that created
The university unquestionably needs to
plan its fature development carefully, but the
current OCP proposal misses the mark—by
some distance.
The university has the unique opportunity
here to come up with something original, innovative, daring and creative—something
Concord Pacific, for instance, wouldn't or
couldn't dream of trying on False Creek.
We have the opportunity to plan and build a
community that would set a new standard in
urban planning. It may sound lofty and idealistic, but shouldn't we at least try.
The first step clearly involves dedicating
more—considerably more—of the proposed
housing in the OCP to the campus community.
It irrmiediately solves several of the largest
concerns with the current plan. First it prevents
the transportation nightmare the OCP threat
ens. The plan on the table now wants to add
more than 10,000 residents to the south campus area; residents who will want and need to
commute east into Vancouver each morning.
Meanwhile the UBC population will continue its
commute west from Vancouver. This in a climate where, despite the touching optimism of
the OCP authors, funding for public transit
infrastructure is uncertain. Wouldn't it be
preferable to have more ofthe campus population live on campus and dramatically cut the
numbers of commuters in each direction.
And this is just the begihnirig. The improvements this allows are inumerable, even for our
lirnited imaginations: fewer parking lots, more
green space, a pedestrian and cyclist campus
that sets into practice much of what the city of
Vancouver is simply talking about in Cityplan.
We concede that would cut into the vast
quantity of cash the administration hopes to
reap from the market sale ofthe land. And yes,
we recognise the university's financial bind
and the impetus for the current vision.
But what the current vision lacks is a recognition that this campus—if it possesses half the
prestige UBC Reports regularly accuses it of—
has the personnel to do something truly innovative. We have the planners, the engineers,
the landscape architects, the designers and the
entrepreneurs to design, finance and build a
community we could be proud of and happy
hving in.
Would this not compensate for lost revenue? It's hard to believe that a genuinely innovative project wouldn't attract other funding
So why not open the planning process to tlie
university and its neighbours? Why not seek
the input and advice of the talented and interested community right here? The interest is
clearly there. Professor Hancock's ability to collect more than 200 faculty signatures in just
five days demonstrates—with no slight meant
to Dr Hancock's wit and charm—a significant
level of interest. A public hearing and a poorly-
advertised open house or two does not constitute consultation.
Why the university remains so resolutely
opposed to including its community in planning is a mystery of considerable depth.
Particularly when it is so clearly to its—and
our—detriment. ♦
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Sloppy prez
doles out too
much rhetoric
As a third year university student
majoring in Political Science, I
have found many ofthe AMS president's comments to be completely
without foundation and substance.
Often his public displays lack in
proposals to better the campus and
operations of UBC. As an observer
to your public expressions, I somehow find myself putting you in the
same category as Bob Dole or
Preston Manning. As a paying
member of the AMS, I suggest that
you cut your rhetorical slops, slanderous, and ill-founded remarks to
a minimum, and focus on solutions, alternatives, and constructive criticism by means of presenting viable, realistic and REAL
progress which give you, the student body, and UBC administration credibihly. Thus, if you and
the UBC. aclministration can work
together and exhibit signs of cooperation, progress and compromise, perhaps your term as AMS
president would be a more rewarding and productive experience for
all parties,  including the  UBC
aclministration and the AMS. The
UBC has been given a budget, so I
suggest that you work with them to
optimize, rather than minimize
effective expenditure under such
stringent constraints. An effective
"fait accompli" has never been
achieved without synthesis, cohesion and communication together
in a productive mindset. Hopefully
you and the UBC Board of
Governors will produce creative
compromise which will renew my
faith in you and the AMS to rise
above sheer self interest politicking for a more productive ends at
present and in the future.
Andrew Szabo
Third Year Arts
Show students
the audit!
Now that legal proceedings have
been initiated around the dismissal of Dale Read as Food and
Beverage Manager (in June), it is
time that the graduate students
were shown the forensic audit
used to justify this unprecedented
action by GSS Council. As it is
unfair to expect graduate students
to individually go to the GSS office
to see the audit and an edited summary of it in The Graduate is unacceptable, the (11 page) body of the
audit should be inserted (in a compressed form) in the next issue of
the graduate.
To remind readers, Mr. Read
was suspended with pay and a
forensic audit initiated by the
GSS Executive Committee on
June 3. This "emergency" action
was approved, retroactively, by
the Council at its June 18 meeting
following an in camera session
during which the GSS President,
Kevin Dwyer laid out the "evidence" against Mr. Read.
Following this, the Society's
lawyers were instructed by the
executive to negotiate, if possible,
or proceed to court to arrive at a
financial settlement to Mr. Read's
claim that his dismissal was
unjustified. As of the end of July,
the Society has spent $8,100, for
the forensic audit, and $ 1,905 on
legal fees. Society members have
not been informed of the
amounts expended since July on
subsequent legal proceedings.
Nor have we been given estimates of the cost of these court
proceedings, as well as additional
expenses related to the manag
er's dismissal, disruption of food
and beverage operations, hiring
of a new manager and dismissal
of other staff.
The procedure the executive
has followed during this period is
to take actions as they saw fit and
then ask for retroactive approval
by GSS Council. The executive has
generally been successful in
extracting approval by going in
camera, during which time members of the executive disseminated rumours and innuendo and
then demanded that all of this be
kept confidential under threat of
Councillor unseating or legal
action. Unfortunately, I fell victim
to this procedure and was unseated, re-elected, threatened with
another unseating and finally
reseated. This served to divert
attention away from, what I consider to be, systematically irresponsible and undemocratic
behaviour on the part of the executive.
Beyond the effect of these
actions on our mounting debt
(over $100,000) and the manipulation and bullying of Council, the
dismissal of Mr. Read violated a
basic principle of representative
democracy: duly constituted and
continued on page 7 TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1996
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approved actions of one administration should be respected by the
succeeding administration. Mr.
Read's contract, which ran from
January 1, 1996 to December 3 1,
1996, was signed by the previous
executive and approved by
Council. The present executive
and Council would have had the
opportunity to amend or not
renew Mr. Read's contract before
\he end of their mandate in
February of 1997. Instead, they
effectively reversed the previous
Council's actions, despite the lack
of evidence of any precipitous violation of operating procedures let
alone criminal action by Mr. Read.
Unfortunately, due to the secretive and authoritarian behaviour
of the executive, graduate students have been excluded from
and remain largely ignorant ofthe
actions of this present council, in
the name of and using fees pro
vided by graduate students.
Publishing the forensic audit will
be a start in restoring democratic
accountability to the GSS.
David Murphy
Political Science Representative
Graduate Student Society
Free speech
and the UBC
In the Ubyssey article about the
threat by Discovery Parks Inc. (DPI)
to sue me for interfering with its
pursuit of big profits ("E-mail
angers UBC developers," Oct. 16),
Vice-President Dennis Pavlich indicates that any decision about a lawsuit "will come from DPI's independent board and not the university."
I would reply to this statement
by respectfully reminding Dr.
Pavlich that the executive director
of DPI tried to intimidate me in
the first place because he thought
that as a member of this university I was vulnerable top coercion
via DPI's close contacts with the
administration. He threatened not
only to sue me but also to call
President Strangway personally
and ask that I be reprimanded
and denied access to e-mail privileges. Yet now that this attempt to
squelch my freedom of speech has
been exposed, the administration
prefers to see DPI as "independent". Some independence!
Moreover, according to the article, Dr. Pavlich says "that the property [sic] adjacent to the disputed lot
is owned by Danielson and that
'clearly his own interests are at
stake.'" I confess, my wife and I do
own a house in the neighbourhood
that borders on the Trillium Trails
forest. It is where we and our children live! And yes, I suppose our
interests are at stake since we enjoy
the fresh air, the birds, and the
trees. Does this somehow render
invalid my claim that the forest
should not be destroyed? If I could
afford to live in Dunbar instead of
Burnaby, then would I be permitted
an opinion?
Finally, I am very grateful that,
in the face of DPI's threats, I have
received strong expressions of
support from my department,
from the executive of the Faculty
Association, and from the faculty
representatives on the Board of
Governors. From the higher
administration, however, I have
heard or read only the Ubyssey
account of what appears to be Dr.
Pavlich's justification of DPI's
actions and his impugning of my
motives for opposing the destruction of urban greenspace.
Perhaps Vice-President Pavlich
was misrepresented. Perhaps he
meant to express abhorrence that
an agency with intimate ties to UBC
tried to silence the voice of a faculty
member at this university. Perhaps
either he or Dr. Strangway will yet
state clearly that the adininistration
values freedom of speech above
profits acquired through its hired
guns in the real estate business.
But so far, no such matters of
principle, no one in the administration has uttered a word.
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October 2nd, 1996
in the SUB
Your Ua$C,
Transportation and Parking (Forum 3
Moderator:      Maria Klawe
Panellists: Bill Lambert - BC Transit, Allison Dunnett - AMS, David Grigg - Campus Planning and Development, David Miller - Parking Services,
Janet Land - Sustainable Development Research Institute, John Smithman-UBC Transit Consultant, Duncan Cavers- Student Environment Centre
Q. There are rumours regarding 4th
Avenue buses shutting down after 9 pm.
This would cause significant inconvenience for students. Is it true?
A. There is a proposal to the Transit
Commissioner to combine the #4 and #10
routes on some sections. Passengers will get
on the #210, and the bus will make local stops
to provide service along 4th Ave.
Q. Does that mean that people have to get
off the bus and transfer? What about the
frequency of service?
A. The frequency won't change and this will
make the #210 just a bit more crowded. We
are trying to refine the service so that where
demands are lower we can reduce service,
and add service where the demand exists. This
year we added a million dollars to the Transit
plan to address the problems we are having on
routes in the lower mainland.
Q. On a couple of mornings I tried to take
a bus rather than cycle, and while I was
standing at 10th and Trimble waiting for a
bus, I noticed the new #99B buses come
by with 5 or 6 people on them. Two went
by as I waited for the #10. It was packed
like sardines and I had to stand on the
stairs. Is the #99B line solving the problem of packed buses?
A. The #99B line is an improvement in service,
and has long been awaited. BC Transit realizes
that more service is needed for UBC. We have
buses that could be used next year, a major
increase in services, all subject to funding. We
would like to see those buses used and
improve service on all routes.
Q. There is an important issue facing
Campus Planning. Is UBC pedestrian
friendly? This is critical; faculty members
and students are very concerned about
cars taking over on campus. For example,
over 5 years ago. Campus Planning gave
an undertaking to remove parking near
the UBC Bookstore. People should feel
safe, but vehicles block the ability of BC
transit to function properly. Another
example. East Mali and the surrounding
area was out of bounds to vehicle traffic.
Planners opened up the road to traffic,
and now it is dangerous; cars are swerving, cutting across from East Mall lo the
area in front of the SUB, so the pedestrian
area is no longer safe. Will Campus
Planning give pedestrians pride of place
over vehicles and enforce minimum traffic regulations?
A. I agree thaf bringing in traffic to access
Bookstore was a retrograde move regarding
pedestrians, but in the past 5 years ago we
have moved forward. There is a draft plan in
place regarding planning issues and traffic
patterns. This plan looks at what do we do,
how commercial vehicles have access, where
we direct the traffic. We don't want to resolve
one problem by creating another. We need to
look at the whole campus. Secondly, yes, East
Mall is a bad area and used to be off-limits to
vehicles outside of the university. This proved
very difficult to enforce, and made it difficult
for couriers and trucks, etc. to do business. All
faculty staff demand high quality service, and
we are trying to resolve for this for pedestrian
traffic, but we do not have full support for one
solution yet. I would like to reassure people
that there have not been problems with safety, however pedestrians feel violated. I
acknowledge that there is much more we can
do and Campus Planning welcomes your suggestions. The planner's job is to implement
your vision. To address your third item, traffic
around SUB, this may have been solved by
putting planters in place. I've been there 4 or 5
times to see, and there have been no trucks
there so it seems to be working. I think what
we are facing here is competition on campus
about how to use the campus and I therefore
suggest that many people get their feedback
to us regarding these issues. It is not one person who makes the decision about which
roads are to be used in which way. We as a
community have to agree on it. We need a
plan we can all live with, and we are going in
that direction.
Q. I am concerned about smoking. There
are times when a bus driver is taking a
break and smoking on the bus, and there
haye even been times when people come
on the bus and the driver is smoking.
There is a no smoking policy on campus,
so should the drivers be doing this? I am
concerned about second-hand smoke.
and asking for the passengers' sake.
A. First, I'll address smoking by-laws. I agree
that it is not good for drivers to smoke on the
buses, contaminating the environment for passengers. This needs to be better enforced. I
think there are many opportunities to deal
with this problem, and perhaps one of the
most effective would be to make a constructive suggestion to the bus driver who is smoking on the bus - and say that you would appreciate that drivers not smoke on the bus.
Q. I tried that, and the driver became abusive. I had to get off and use a different
bus. Now, if I see a driver smoke then I
wait for a different bus, but I shouldn't
have to do this.
A. That's right, and I'd like to hear about these
incidents, please give Transit a call when they
A. With respect to UBC policies - there is no
one here from Health, Safety and Environment,
but there is no smoking in any building on campus, but this doesn't apply to vehicles. People
can smoke in their cars, and outside buildings.
Q. In the introductions, Maria mentioned
that the AMS is conducting a survey on
transit use by students and others coming
to UBC. Allison, can you give an outline of
the survey?
A. We received about 400 surveys back about
buses, stops, service in the morning and the
afternoon, etc. A great percentage of UBC
people answered yes to "have you been left
behind when the bus is full"," Have you seen
other people left behind", these sorts of questions. The complete results of the survey are
available from the AMS, and we will be providing the results to BC Transit.
Q. One of the buses to UBC operates to
Crown also, and often buses that are
filled to capacity pass by students.
Maybe the Crown bus should not stop
enroute to UBC?
A. Thanks for making us aware of the difficulty, we will look into it.
Q. This is a question for people who take
care of roads - the cycling route from
Blanca along University Boulevard is
good, but tree roots have affected it and
there so many bumps that my back wheel
came off once! Are there any plans or
ideas for "smoothing" off the bike paths?
A. The paths don't belong to UBC, they are the
responsibility of the Ministry of Transportation
and Highways, but we have been pushing for 4
years for a reconfiguration of the road for better cycling, for example, one lane for traffic
and one lane for cyclists. The Ministry of
Transportation is very sympathetic to the idea,
but will not do anything until the Official
Community Plan is in place so we can see the
traffic flow and the number of vehicles on the
road. We'll move on to the next stage sometime in the next 3 months.
Q. I was on the bus once and the bus driver took a short break; he stopped outside
Macdonald's, hopped out and got a muffin
and coffee and then hopped back on. I
wasn't in hurry but it shocked me! Does
Transit know about drivers doing this?
Does it encourage it?
A. We know that it happens, and in some
cases it is OK. Some routes have more time
built in, and drivers have opportunities to take
longer breaks.
Q. I heard that the University of
Washington, by charging for parking,
subsidizes student bus passes to a
monthly cost of about $9. The University
worked this out with Transit and the City
of Seattle. Does UBC have any similar
plans to do this?
A. This is called the U-Pass, and it works well
in Seattle. Some elements of that system exist
here already. The missing part is the bus pass,
and we are working with BC Transit on 2
fronts, faculty/staff and students, to make it
work for UBC.
Q. My understanding is that UBC subsidizes the annual cost of parking for faculty, but at the University of Washington
parkers pay an annual fee so that the net
difference goes towards the U-Pass.
A. I'm not aware of any subsidy for parking at
UBC. Parkers pay a monthly and yearly rate.
The current parking prices here are comparable to downtown Vancouver. There has been
much discussion about parking here, and sev
eral groups on and off campus talking about
redesign. There is a first draft of the
Transportation plan and in that we are looking
at many of these issues. Parking has role to
play and is being 'measured', but we still have
much to do. Anyone interested can get a copy
of the draft, and address questions to John
Smithman. You can contact him care of UBC
Parking Services.
Q. Bus drivers have one of the highest
occupational mortality rates and the earliest retirement rate. It is a stressful job. I
think that Transit should find a way to
take the stress out. Schedule drivers
under less stress and also put them in a
position of being ambassadors of the
transportation network in the community.
Is there any effort being put into looking
at this?
A There are several ways of addressing this,
and we are always changing the schedule to
improve service and meet the needs of the
community. We are helping bus drivers deal
with stress by giving them upgrading and
training on how to deal with customers, how
to deal with being on the front line, how to
make improvements, marketing etc. We are
working on it and agree that it is stressful
Regarding the U-Pass: part of the success of
this has to be a multi-faceted approach for a
variety of transportation access, and Transit is
part of this. It's a win-win for us.
Q. I would like to talk about the West 41st
Ave. and S.W. Marine Dr. routes - at the
end of the highway there is a traffic light
at the intersection, and you have to cross
the highway with many cars rushing
along. Many have to make this crossing
every day. Who has the power to improve
this situation to make it safer? Who do I
lobby about this? Also, I have a suggestion for BC Transit: whenever I bike on
41st and I am approaching a bus stop, the
bus will be tailing my back tire very
closely; this is dangerous and nerve
wracking! How can this be changed and
A. The Ministry of Transportation and
Highways have acknowledged in last 6 months
that cyclists frequently use this road, but
MOTH have not followed through or assisted
us to use this road properly. We have to contend with garbage and cars parked along it.
MOTH have a long way to go to acknowledge
cyclists. UBC is in constant touch with MOTH
and they do respond, but there is much to do
yet. We will continue to lobby them about this.
The address for you to write to is MINISTRY
A. One the OCP is completed there will be
some implications about W. 16th Ave. and the
use of that kind of road, so there will be an
opportunity to 'normalize' that section of the
Q. BC Transit has taken a lot of flack
because of cutting routes, but this is not
their fault. They should be receiving more
funding to improve transit. Cars have a
high social cost, for example, medical
costs regarding traffic accidents. What is
the university doing now about making
parking and driving to campus more
expensive and therefore less attractive,
in order to encourage more people to use
A. The cost of parking has increased substantially over 5-8 years, we have encouraged and
promoted car and van pooling, parkades and
parking permits are all more expensive.
A. The plans are to continually increase cost of
parking on campus for everybody. We are also
reducing the number of parking spaces as
years go by and we don't plan to replace these
with parkades. Instead, we plan to use the
money to encourage car
pooling on campus. There is a lot of unofficial
car pooling going on because of the high cost
of parking; people find others to share the cost
of permits as prices increase.
Q. Are parking revenues currently subsidizing transit?
A. No, we are not subsiding transit use at the
current time, but it is worth considering. Fees
from parking do subsidize the UBC Security
Q. What about other issues like putting
bike racks on buses, making more bike
lockers available, and installing more
covered bike racks?
A. We recognize that the fees for bike lockers
have been too high in the past, but the lockers
are all filled now. Bike racks on buses are a
great idea - I think the buses on Vancouver
Island have them and buses to the ferries may
use them. BC Transit is doing an analysis of
this. With respect to bike facilities on campus
and racks, there is no central planner to
approach for funding. There are maybe about
1500 cyclists using this means of transportation We need to consider ways to find funding
for bike racks. There is a covered facility at
SUB and Athletics. We also need to consider
the issue of security for bikes because of theft
being an issue. Some questions we need to
consider are who coordinates the bike racks
on campus? Do we know enough about bike
racks and their purposes 1 Perhaps we don't
know enough about where they are About
four years ago we discovered the need for bike
racks and put in about 80 since then. We concentrated on those areas most easily
accessed, and put the racks under cover, if
possible. The committee group is working on
it, and considering how to bring in similar
models to a Vancouver by-law. The City
requires new developers to put in shower and
locker facilities, we would like to see this happen at UBC and have put in recommendations
regarding this. One suggestion was made earlier regarding the use of parking fees for better
bike facilities and bus passes, etc. If you
believe these should be a priorities, then
please make your voices heard. Provide input
to Janet Land regarding the Transportation
Plan. You can reach her in the Sustainable
Development Research Institute.
Q. I drive to school because the transit
service is not good enough to get me here
in less than two hours. I got a car pool
going with 9 friends, and it works fine
with 2 parkade passes. We tried to get all
names on the parkade pass, but we were
told that we couldn't do that. We therefore have to use a carpool lot that is out of
the way for all of us. Why not
let car-poolers use a parkade that is more
A Permits for parkades don't need al! the
information. We have room on our database
for information on two cars, but you can use
more cares than this. You can make the car
pool as small or as large as you want, so we
don't have to keep track of each vehicle
Q. So I can drive another car to school
and my parkade permit is useable?
A. It is portable, yes - flexibility is our aim!
Q. One of most critical problems is single
occupancy vehicles - so many cars come
to campus with only 1 person in the car. I
think that we should start a system where
if you show up at a B-lot or a parkade
with only 1 person in the car, then there is
a charge of $1 or something for every
empty seat in the vehicle.
A. I've never heard it put that way before, but
we are doing approximately what you suggested by increasing parking rates, and there
are more increases coming each year. We
want to create a car pooling atmosphere. We
have looked at other ideas and unfortunately
there is a problem because this campus has so
many entrances into this campus, whereas at
a campus like the University of Washington
every entrance has a gate, so if you haven't
got enough people in your car you have to pay
extra. Students should have a say on how this
extra money will be spent, for example are
people here interested in this plan for student
bus passes now, not 10 years from now? - if so
please come and talk to Allison Dunnett, her
office is located upstairs in SUB.
A. There is work being done now to encourage
people to car pool. It is difficult finding a sufficient number of people to car pool, so the new
site on the internet may help.
Q. When can we expect to see this?
A. In about 2 weeks to a month. Duncan
Cavens has agreed to let PASS know when it
is active and we are printing posters to advertise the service. It will also be connected to
the UBC Homepage. There will be a terminal
to access the Web page in the SUB concourse.
Q: I have a question about the Security
Bus and how it operates - I heard that it
was not running in September. Also, is
that service going to expand because it
needs to be expanded - and what about
shuttle buses on campus for people to get
to their classes on time?
A. The Security Bus was operating in
September. I'm sorry but I can't answer the
other questions Currently, we can only fund
the two vehicles operating The shuttle bus
idea is interesting.
Q. Are you going to be increasing the cost
of a car pool pass? Also, why is C-lot the
only car pool lot?
A With respect to the cost of the pass, no, and
we didn't increase the price of the car pool last
year or this year About Clot, this lot is the
closest lot in the core of the campus where
can you reserve an entire lot for car pool parking. Please let David Miller know if you have
ideas about any other lots
Q. What about establishing a 1-800 number for people who want to car pool but
with no access to the internet?
A. For people with no access there will be a
permanent terminal on the SUB Concourse.
A. It is a case of desperately needing more terminal access to the World Wide Web for students for a variety of reasons, and we are trying to find ways to do it
Q. How could Vancouver City Council
help support or improve your efforts?
A I think they've already helped us with their
feedback about our programs We have had to
look at ourselves critically to respond to that.
We are proud that in 1989 we began 15 various programs to reduce car transportation to
UBC, and we have had some success. We
have had a reduction in single occupant vehicles from 1991 to 1994 measured and we want
to see this continue - we will be conducting
benchmarking this fall to see how well the
program worked We want to include all UBC's
neighbours in the program. Many groups in the
lower mainland are working on transportation
and we should all work towards the same purpose. The city has made an informal approach
to have a member on the Transportation committee, so there is acknowledgment that we
can help them and they us!
Q. Relating to the discussion about the
UBC U-pass, it seems to have worked
successfully at the University of Victoria
and the University of Washington, in part
because the charges for parking provide
a subsidy. I really encourage you to consider this.
A. A lot hinges on the Transportation Plan, and
looking at all the issues in context. When the
plan is put in place subsidies may be one part
of it and then parking rates will have to be
arranged. There are many possibilities, and we
want to stress again that this is an ongoing
and community effort. We want the plan to
belong to the UBC community.
Your UBC Forum 3:
Student Rights cii!
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Wednesday, October 23
SUB Conversation Pit
12:30-2:30 PM
Please join us, and bring a friend. Speak Your Mind...We're Listening


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