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The Ubyssey Nov 27, 1979

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Kenny dreams as university stagnates
UBC administration president
Doug Kenny's major policy statement last week on the future of
the university is the biggest administrative attempt in years to
tackle UBC's considerable "growing pains."
Fullback Kenny is going for the
academic touchdown with his
Mission of UBC statement to the
Universities Council of B.C., but
he is already so far in his own end
zone he probably won't complete
the play. Kenny hopes he can mow-
down problems of student accessibility, poor research funding
and the government cutbacks
flanked only by big government
grants on one side and an unflagg-
ingly high academic standard on
the other.
But the game isn't that simple,
and Kenny knows it.
Kenny is going to need a lot of
government money to make UBC
the kind of university he outlines
in his report, and just where that
money is coming from is one of
the biggest flaws in his game plan.
"I'm an eternal optimist. They
(the provincial government) are
going to have to respond. We'll
have to keep pressing our claims,"
Kenny said yesterday.
He says taxpayers will be more
than willing to pay for a higher
quality universities system if the
universities can assure the public
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Vancouver, B.C. Tuesday, November 27,
quality will be maintained.
"We've got to assure the public
we're dealing with high quality
students and faculty," says Kenny.
Kenny is confident he can win
the support of the public because
"people are starting to vote with
their minds." But unless Kenny
plans anything short of a small
citizen's revolt of a push for a new
election, that public support will
probably come down to the support of one man — Pat McGeer,
universities, science and communications minister.
And since last week's cabinet
shuffle it seems Kenny may also
have difficulty in maintaining a
balanced distribution of government funding among university
disciplines due te McGeer's habit
of heavily overlapping his science
and technology interests with his
interest in universities. Kenny admits the priorities of both the provincial and federal government
will have to be "watched carefully."       -
But again he seems confident
the government can be convinced
of the wisdom of expanding
technological and science education at the same pace as expansion
in the humanities.
"A large number of the important decisions facing society will
need the help of the humanities to
make the decisions. The aim of
society is not just being dictated
by technological people," says
But all recent government funding announcements would seem
to contradict Kenny's optimism
about the ease of maintaining a
balance in university growth and
funding. The federal goverment
has just announced a 32 per cent
increase in funding for the
Natural Sciences and Engineering
Research Council and McGeer
recently presented the Discovery
Foundation with a $3 million
government cheque to begin the
construction and design of industrial research parks at UBC,
Simon Fraser University and three
other locations.
The fact of the matter is that the
scientific, industrial research
parks have potential for commercial exploitation of research work,
and government and industry are
willing to pour money into those
areas because they know there will
be a return on the investment.
There are no easily visible
monetary gains from improving
See page 2: PLAN
Students to get
park forum input
— kevin finnegan photo
STUDENTS SIGH with relief after being released from two week hostage taking in main library bookstacks. Mad
professors overtook library two weeks ago to protest lack of work on term papers and held several hundred
students at penpoint until all essays were finished. Students in photo say they are planning wild weekend of oral
sex to celebrate their release from academic bondage. Profs are not invited.
Students have won a small battle
in gaining more input on development of UBC's 58-acre research
Administration president Doug
Kenny and a representative from
the B.C. Development Corporation
have agreed to meet students in an
open forum this Thursday to
discuss their concerns about the
park's construction.
Forum organizer Glenn Wong
said Kenny and Don Larsen will not
be permitted to "do a PR job on
Discovery Park," but will be asked
to give only brief presentations and
field questions from students. "It's
not like a rally. The important thing
to stress is that the president doesn't
come to do a PR job and students
don't come just to demonstrate and
. rally," said Wong.
"The meeting will undoubtedly
be used to check the pulse of student concern. It should be of interest to everyone on campus. It
was clear from (vice-president
Erich) Vogt's talk at Cecil Green
that if students don't talk then they
may not get a chance for such an
open exchange," said Wong.
But Kenny said he isn't concerned about the number of students
who show up for the noon forum,
but with the level of intellectual
debate students exhibit. "It's the in
tellectual argument within an intellectual community that you pay
attention to. I don't think you can
decide issues on headcounts.
"'Even if a small group articulates
concerns, that's something we
should take into account," he said.
But the meeting should be only
the beginning of a continuous student input on the research
park issue, said Marty Lund, chairman of the student representative
assembly research park committee.
"We do not consider this meeting
to be sufficent," he said.
Lund said the committee is
demanding a moratorium on the
development of the park until full
public hearings have been conducted and a representative body
has been established to provide input into the planning and management of the park.
"We have been given reassurances, but no commitments
have been made. We want straight
answers and commitments," said
Lund. He said the SRA committee,
which held its first meeting last Friday, is hoping to gain support from
members of the Point Grey community in its research park fight.
"We will rally the support of the
people in the Point Grey area, but
they won't be involved in the committee. There are people out there
who want public meetings like they
have had on Wreck Beach."
McGeer moves, but the earth doesn't budge
The music stopped and Pat
McGeer found himself still sitting
in the education chair — kind of.
With the wisdom of Solomon,
premier Bill Bennett decided to
split the education ministry between McGeer, who gets universities, and Brian Smith of Oak
Bay, who gets stuck with
everything McGeer disdained and
The announcement of the
cabinet shuffle came, political
futures were decided, the earth
stood still — and nothing happened.
But the news surely must have
caused a shudder in the administration offices of B.C.'s
three universities.
If anything has marked
McGeer's years as education
minister, it has been his reign of
terror over universities. Only four
short years after he became education minister, McGeer virtually
dictates policy at  Simon Fraser
University and the University of
Victoria. And he has got a
stranglehold on UBC's board of
And that's not even mentioning
the 25 and eight per cent increases
in tuition at UBC in the past few
The bully tactics can be expected to continue, especially
since the pesky and politically
dangerous part of the old portfolio has been exorcised.
Don't expect a sympathetic ear
either, especially if you're interested in a liberal arts education.
But you can bet McGeer is
chortling while sitting on his
throne. He despises elementary
and secondary education. Obnoxious unions. Feisty teachers. And
not everyone there accepts the
heaps of . . . er . . . garbage
McGeer so joyously dumps on
UBC and other universities — like
grandiose research park schemes
with their promise of riches for
B.C.'s downtrodden industries.
All of which goes to show how
interested the Social Credit
government is in university educa
tion. The seat goes to an old
political crony, who's placated
enough to remain in the party and
But there is a bright side to all
of this. By staying in cabinet,
McGeer could quite possibly lose
his tenure as a UBC professor,
thus making it harder for him to
come back and take over administration president Doug Kenny's job.
Then again, he could just
change the law on tenure. Bet on
it. Page 2
Tuesday, November 27,1979
Plan misses mark
From page 1
an english or policial science department.
One of the main themes
throughout the Mission statement is
the important role of the university
in expanding Canada's industrial
base from simply resource extraction to secondary industry production.
It is this view of the university's
function that has caused much
discussion among academics and
the media. Monday's Vancouver
Sun editorial stated that "his (Kenny's) statements, outlining
something of a blueprint for the
university's future, touched an old
Canadian nerve: research and
development. There have long been
many educated, concerned voices
warning us that our resource and
development is badly underfinanced."
It seems the public is finally catching on, but perhaps they are missing the entire point.
One of the more shocking facts
revealed in Kenny's Mission statement was that less than five per cent
of all Canadians have university
degrees and that only 15.6 per cent
of British Columbians have attended any post-secondary institutions.
Unless this situation is remedied, it
won't matter how much money is
available for research and development — there just won't be anyone
qualified to spend it.
Kenny says the low attendance
figure for B.C., one of the lowest in
Canada, has little to do with the
rising cost of tuition but rather with
misinformation about the function
and usefulness of a university, lack
of accessible student aid and an archaic perception of Canada's
economic role.
"To what extent fees control accessibility, I'm not sure. I think
other factors play a larger part,"
says Kenny. He claims Grade 10
students in high schools are not informed enough about what universities have to offer, and blames
some of the poor participation rate
on this lack of information.
But both in discussion and in the
Mission statement, Kenny takes little note of the possibility that
economic barriers are the chief problem to student accessibility and attendance.
In the Mission statement Kenny
says he is aiming "to achieve the
resources to permit all deserving
and qualified students to attend
university, so that none are excluded because they lack necessary
funds. The university would be failing if it were t6 accept a lesser
And in an interview Monday,
Kenny said he will push for increases in student aid money and
the creation of student distance subsidies. He says students from outlying areas have much higher costs in
attending university than those
from the Lower Mainland, and funding programs should take that factor into account.
But despite these concessions
Kenny has chosen to ignore massive
student protests and studies on tuition increases and general accessibility of universities to lower
income students.
No one can disagree with the admirable goal and intention of stopping the constant drain of nonrenewable resources from the country by establishing a firm secondary
and high technology industry and a
developed society. But to reach that
goal universities must not only be
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Page 3
— kavin finnegan photo
NO IT'S NOT a scene from Star Trek, the movie. And it's not a new administrative tool to ease student accessibility to UBC. And it's not even a new engineering project to capture black holes and quasi-quasars. We
know what it is, but do you? If you have faith in your perception, come to The Ubyssey with your answer. If you're
right, we'll treat you to a free brew; if you're wrong, you'll treat us to one.
Delay might put AMS in hot water
There will be trouble if the student representative assembly blocks
further action on constitutional
proposals, Alma Mater Society
president Brian Short said Monday.
"We have a letter from the
registrar of companies and he said a
referendum can be held," Short
said. "In fact he encouraged it."
The provincial registrar of companies is the main arbiter of the
meaning of the Societies Act, under
which AMS has its charter, he said.
Short said there had been difficulties because of the wording of
the Societies Act but that did not
change the ultimate action the AMS
must take.
"We have a constitutional
obligation to hold a referendum
within 21 days of a petition being
presented to SRA," he said. "That
would be either this week or next."
The most recent petition concerning the AMS constitution was
received Nov. 15, he said. But SRA
voted last Wednesday to postpone
Short springs back
at attacking hacks
Lifespring has not affected his
responsibilities to the Alma Mater
Society, Brian Short said Monday.
And Short added his involvement
with the self-development group
has provided an excuse for others to
attack him. "1 feel that several people are using myself and Lifespring
as an excuse for the things they
haven't done or should be doing,"
he said.
"If something goes wrong, people immediately look for somebody
else to blame."
Short said he missed a student
representative assembly meeting
"by choice" to attend a Lifespring
course. And he added this should
have no greater effect than that if
he had been at home sick.
"I tried to set up the AMS so the
world doesn't stop when I leave,"
said Short.
Short also denied any responsibility for the paper on tuition fees
that AMS external affairs officer
Valgeet Johl said she had to write in
his place. "That's her job," he
said. "She's the one who writes
papers on tuition and things like
But Johl said Monday it was
Short's fault she had little time to
prepare the paper. "The request
from the board of governors came
to him a month before it was due,"
Johl said. "I only got the request
three days before it was due. It was
my understanding they wanted the
paper from Brian."
Short denied charges that Lifesp-
ing is taking time away from his
duties as AMS president. "Not at
all," he said. "It has an effect on
my studies, if anything."
But SRA secretary-treasurer
Glenn Wong said much of the activity going on in the AMS has been
misguided and pointless. "The key
issue is not the time they're taking
off," he said. "People have been
really putting in time, but it seems
the referendum until the society's
lawyer gives his advice.
Short said obstruction by SRA of
constitutional proposals could end
up in charges being laid .against the
"I think we're in trouble," he
said. "We could end up in violation
of the Societies Act."
Short condemned the actions of
the SRA in dealing with the referendum, which has twice been stopped
by the assembly.
"I'm pissed off at the way the
SRA is working at it," Short said.
"It's been worked on for a year and
a half and there's been lots of
meetings, lots of time to work on it.
"SRA has simply refused to deal
with it, which is why people have
been drawing up and submitting
petitions," he said.
Short said three petitions have
been submitted so far to SRA asking that the constitution be changed.
One of the petitions, he added,
has been "forgotten." The other
has been sent to student court and
the third is the one that has been
sent to lawyers by SRA for a decision on its legality.
Phillips takes
a test drive
The federal government should
buy out the ailing U.S. Chrysler
corporation and establish it as a
temporary crown corporation,
Liberal MP Art Phillips said Friday.
Chrysler's current economic problems would allow the federal
government to buy out Chrysler
Canada and its U.S. parent for well
below their regular market value,
Phillips (L-Vancouver Centre) told
200 students in Buch. 106.
Phillips said the government
takeover is necessary now because
the government has no guarantees
the $300 million they are giving
Chrysler as a financial incentive will
guarantee jobs.
"If we're seriously considering
advancing the money, then why not
buy it out. Right now if the gamble
doesn't work, we lose," the possible Liberal leadership candidate
"If we walked in and acquired
the whole corporation, right away
we would,own about 10 per cent of
the world's automobile industry.
The government should move in
and take over an important section
of the industry at a good price," he
Phillips said the U.S. government, which is currently pumping
$1.5 billion into saving Chrysler,
would probably welcome the move.
But he admitted: "I think it would
cause a bit of a stir in the States."
Phillips said the money for the
takeover could come from selling
off the Canadian Development
Corporation to the private sector.
Chrysler would remain a crown corporation for about 10 years and
would involve "a commitment of
several billion dollars ultimately,"
he said.
"1 don't see it as a gradual accumulation by government of.
business. When things are in a
stable state private ownership is
Phillips also speculated on
whether he would run for the
leadership of the Liberal party. "I
always feel it's wrong to close
doors. The most important thing to
me is resolving the personal side. If
you get into that role, it's a complete change in your personal
lifestyle," he said.
But Phillips admitted to a French
CBC radio reporter one of the problems he would face in a leadership
race is bilingualism. She asked him
in French to comment on his
chances for success and he replied
in broken French that his speaking
ability in Canada's second language
was "un probleme pour le leadership."
Gage residents left
standing in cold H20
Gage residents have solved two of
the problems that perennially
plague resident dwellers — early
morning sex and doing the dishes.
The solution is childishly simple.
Cold water.
"At the beginning of the year I'd
say the water was 50 degrees
Fahrenheit in the morning," said
south tower resident Doug
Demetrick. "It was terrible."
The problem inspired Demetrick
to write a letter to The Ubyssey and
to complain to housing director
Mike Davis.
After one month of complaining,
the situation improved drastically.
The water is now lukewarm in the
"They've worked on it, but there
could still be a lot more improvement," said Demetrick.
And Demetrick added cold
showers   have   upset   his   daily
routine. "It really affected my
schedule. I'd get up a hell of a lot
earlier because I couldn't bear to
start the day off with a blast of
50-degree water.
"I started to get up at 7 a.m. but
it was already cold because some
smart bastards were getting up at
six. It was a pain in the ass."
And no dishwashing water is
threatening the harmony of the
south tower quads. "You end up
leaving the dishes unwashed until
you get enough hot water," said
Demetrick. "You get big piles
stacked up and then scraps begin in
your quad because of it."
Student housing business
manager Susanne Nikles said Monday she has not received any recent
complaints from south tower.
"That doesn't mean there haven't
been any complaints," she said.
"They just probably haven't been
made to the right place."
NOOOOOOOOOOOO, Ms. Bill, please don't kick me. Commerce goalie
learns to guard against hard-driving inflation in intramural soccer game
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— kevin finnegan photo
against Varsity Outdoor Club. VOC jocks in photo drop-kicked commerce
student through uprights for winning score. Page 4
Tuesday, November 27,1979
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It's in the cards
President Kenny's crystal ball is glowing.
The mighty fortune teller is proud of his marbles for predicting
UBC's sad future in research and development. We rank far behind
the U.S. in international academic excellence, he tells us, our
"young people" are uneducated, the university participation rate is
abysmal and lack of government funding has led to rundown
buildings and worn-out instruction equipment. And students are
finding it harder to pay to enter university too.
As if we didn't know.
Soothsayer Kenny is certainly correct in acknowledging the
grave decline in quality education, increasing difficulty of student
accessibility and need for improved facilities. But why. now, all of a
sudden, does he publicly unveil this magical clairvoyance when
we've been well aware of these conditions for years?
It's simple. The UBC prestidigitators are touting a 58 acre
research park, which, they proclaim, will boost UBC's world
stature, greatly enhance good old R and D and train and produce
qualified graduates, well-educated members of the working world.
That's indeed true, but will it solve the current problems of
declining student accessibility? Not likely. Kenny blames almost all
of UBC's deficiences on lack of funding, but at the same time says
money (i.e. tuition fees) isn't a key factor in preventing students
from entering university. In other words, the administration can
conjure up the provincial government as arch villain for not
coughing up enough dough, but students aren't expected to complain about increased tuition fees.
Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to pay and cry.
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November 27, 1979
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Co-Editors: Heather Conn and Tom Hawthorn
BRAAPA went the Ubyssey city editor chairsaw as the mad puke-faced Menyasz chased reporters
around the office. Cold hands Heather Conn screamed with delight as Menyasz slammed her down on
a meathook and then proceeded to chop up tittle Tommy Hawthorn is a most malicious manner.
"Aaah," he yelled as the tiny blades tore into his soft flesh. Gary Brookfield heard the cry and went to
investigate, but the crazed chains wielder quickly turned him into a pile of crumpled muons decaying
on the slaughterhouse floor. It was al' too much for jocks Kevin Finnegan and Dave Francis who tried
to ward off the madman with old smelly jockstraps. BRAAPA . . .!!!!! ft was all over for them too.
Verne McDonald and Glen Sanford attempted to soothe the poor psychopath's mind with some
hallucinogenic drugs, but that only inspired him further as more warm blood oozed into the engine
chamber of the machine of death. Curtis Long and Geoff Olsen also quickly went under the teeth of the
saw and it was only Geof Wheelwright who finally asked Menyasz why he did it all. "The honeymoon is
over," replied. For more BRAAPA, come to the newswriting seminar at 1 p.m. today.
Jerusalem symbolizes peace and strife
Jerusalem has often been referred to as a
"diy of peace." Todry, life in Jerusalem is
normal and showing signs of growing amity,
both on a personal level as well as between
the different religious groups of the population. Indeed, much of the recent strife has
not involved Arabs at all but rather different
sects of Jews. However, on the international
and political level Jerusalem is not so much a
symbol of holiness and peace as of strife and
conflicting aspirations. An obvious and current example is the recent furor over Clark's
aborted embassy move.
There are many approaches one can take in
discussing Jerusalem. This article is a tentative exploration of Jerusalem as it is
coveted by three maior world religions —
Islam, Christianity, Judaism.
In Islam the sanctity ol Jerusalem is an undisputed fact. The question that must be addressed is how the city came to acquire that
place in Muslim consciousness in a religion
whose founder, the Prophet Muhammed, ex-
cercised his ministry in south-western Arabia.
It is beyond doubt that the Prophet and his
message were profoundly indebted to a
Christian and Jewish legacy (monotheism,
the day of judgment, humanity's moral
responsibility for its actions). The holiness of
Jerusalem was part of that legacy and, indeed, the original direction of prayer was not
to Mecca but to Jerusalem.
"Praise be to Allah who brought his servant from the Holy Mosque to the Remote
Mosque, the surroundings of which we have
blessed." In mainstream Islam, this famous
passage from the Koran was interpreted as
follows: The Prophet Muhammed was
miraculously transported from Mecca to
Jerusalem, and it was from there that he
made his ascent to heaven.
In 638, Jerusalem was conquered by the
Khalif Omar. In 691, 53 years later, the Mosque of Omar was built, which to this day is
one of the glories of religious architecture.
This mosque soon came to be identified with
the "remote mosque" in the aforementioned
Koranic passage.
The sanctity of this holy site acted like a
magnet, and an increasing number of devotional practices and beliefs came to be
associated with it. After the conquest of
Jerusalem by the Crusaders, a kind of
"Zionist" literature began to flourish in the
Islamic world, singing the praises and virtues
of Jerusalem.
Although I have referred to Christianity's
Jerusalem in light of the Crusaders, Christian
attitude to the Holy City was not always of
the crusading type, but rather, far more complex and ambiguous. For contemporary with
the Crusades medieval Christian theology
taught that the true home of the Christian is
the heavenly Jerusalem. The terrestrial
Jerusalem, which is united to the one in
heaven, is wherever the perfect Christian life
is lived.
Yet for many generations of Christians,
the land in general and Jerusalem in particular was the scene on which the most uniquely momentous events of history had been
Christians have always cherished Palestine
as a "holy land" and Jerusalem as a "holy city." Christian pilgrims have at all times come
to visit the sites associated with the historical
manifestation of the miracle of Christ and
mystery of salvation. Yet at the same time
many of the great spiritual figures in the
history of Christianity expressed doubts
about what seemed to them a potentially
crude, unspiritual and hence unsound approach to Christian teaching and salvation.
The ideal Christian image is thus of a
heavenly Jerusalem. This spiritual entity of
which the Church is an earthly reflection, is
the abode of God who dwells in the midst of
his sanctified people. To the extent that
Jerusalem also has a territorial dimension as
a holy city, it is mainly in its quality as a
momento of holy events that occurred at certain "holy places."
Jerusalem entered Jewish history and
religious consciousness under David. David
made Jerusalem the cornerstone of the
religious and national unification of Israel.
Jerusalem became the symbol and the most
significant expression of the transition from
'peoplehood' to the formation of a nation-
state. But it was never completely subservient
to, or completely identified with, the new national status, and later, when the state ceased
to exist, Jerusalem did not lose its important
and symbolic value for the Jewish peole.
Indeed, Judaism cannot be understood
apart from the amazing depth and tenacity
with which Jerusalem has struck roots in
Jewish feeling, belief and theology.
Jerusalem was the city which God had
chosen, and the choice of this city was as
much a part of God's covenant with his people as that which was recorded in the biblical
book of Deuteronomy.
The meaning of Jerusalem as it subsequently determined Jewish self-
understanding and history consciousness
comes out most clearly in the books of the
Prophets and in the book of Psalms.
Jerusalem and Zion are synonymous, and
they come to mean not only the city, but the
land as a whole and the Jewish people as a
whole. City, land and people become one in a
grand symbolic fusion.
To briefly recapitulate, the Christian tradition has "de-territorialized" the concept of
Jerusalem from that of a geographic to an
orientation towards a personal and universal
centre. The Christian spiritual emphasis came
to be focused on the heavenly Jerusalem with
its earthly counterpart being not much more
than a very important momento of the holy
events enacted there.
In one important respect there seems to be
a crucial difference between the Jewish relationship to Jerusalem on the one hand and
that of Christianity and Islam on the other.
For Christians and Muslims here are sacred
places, hallowed by the most holy events:
here are the places for pilgrimage, the very
focus of highest devotion. But for Judaism
Jerusalem is not a city containing holy sites
or commemorating holy events. The city as
such is holy. Judaism is not tied to "sites,"
but to the land, not to what happened in
Jerusalem, but to Jerusalem itself.
But if there are fundamental differences
there are fundamental similarities as well,
specifically in the source from which all three
religions draw their inspiration, their value
and contribution to humankind. With
respect to Jerusalem, the prophet Isaiah put
it best: "Zion will be redeemed by justice
and its inhabitants by righteousness."
Come out and see Jerusalem City of Peace,
a HABITAT '76 musical and visual display.
It's all day Wednesday in front of the SUB
conversation pit.
Brian Field is a fourth-year economics student. He is a member of NETWORK, the
Canadian Jewish University students'
organization, affiliated with UBC's Hillel
House. Tuesday, November 27,1979
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'I've got nothing to do with those terrorist hoodlums'
The Ubyssey has been strangely
silent about its opinion on the Iranian students' hostage taking protest in Tehran. Why does it refrain
from expressing its usually
notoriously biased opinions? Is the
paper perhaps embarrassed about
its   former   stand   on   the   evil,
capitalistic regime of the Shah,
which was replaced by a religiously
fanatic one devoted to reducing
human rights to seventh century
To help The Ubyssey overcome
its reluctance to discuss the issue, I
must respond to the foolish letter by
Theodore Baracos (Nov. 22). He
praises the Iranian students for
undertaking a rarely-seen-today
revolutionary protest. In my opinion, the Iranian hostage taking
students must be condemned for
their internationally criminal actions.
'Horse9 with no name is not enough
As one who regularly uses the cycle path on University Blvd., I was
delighted and somewhat surprised
to see the recent improvement to
some small patches of the path near
the golf course. I was delighted
because the path is gradually
becoming so bumpy and rutted as
to be dangerous for cyclists. I was
surprised because in the past five
years I have seen little evidence that
the endowment lands administration cared about the state of the
path and the recent improvements
do little to ease my concern because
of the callous treatment of cyclists
by the Cicuto Bros. Contractors
currently working on the B.C.
Hydro gas lines.
Surely the endowment lands administration should oversee the
safety precautions on any construe-
'You want the dirt on cliff erosion?
Gee, can we dump a load on you'
It might be of interest to your
readers to know that in addition to
the briefs in the geography reading
room mentioned by Greg Smith in
his article in The Ubyssey of Nov.
23, there is a set of cliff erosion task
force briefs, including critique proposals, alternate proposals and information    appendices,    in    the
university archives, special collections division, Main Library, UBC.
There are also other documentary
and printed materials relating to the
cliff erosion in the special collections division.
Laurenda Daniells
university archivist
tion under their jurisdiction. Obviously the UEL office is not concerning itself with such matters or
the unfortunate accident in which a
student rode his bike into an open
pit on the cycle path on the evening
of Thursday, Nov. 15 would have
been prevented. I arrived on the
scene a few minutes after the accident and was appalled by the lack
of warning provided cyclists. One
small "horse" with a flashing light
so dim it couldn't be seen more than
a couple of feet away is not adequate to block a path. It was too
easy for cyclists to ride around the
"barricade" and fall into the pit.
There was no real warning of the
danger ahead. Luckily no one fell
into the pit on top of the first victim
who could not have climbed out by
himself even if he had not injured
his pelvis.
Paul G. Harrison
assistant botany professor
Innocent people might be
murdered in the name of a rather
trivial cause, whose fulfilment
would in no way help humanity. It
is impermissible that innocent people be used as a means of attaining
revenge. The hostage taking
students are far from noble; their
motivations are grounded in base
revenge, nothing else.
Not only is the students' cause
deplorable, but even more so is
their setting up of a precedent (if
their demands are met) for interna
tional terrorism and blackmail,
which could upset the precarious
stability of today's world. These
Iranian protesters are not responsible students; they are mad people
driven by an irrational lust for
revenge. If they continue to be called students, I shall no longer regard
myself as a student, because the
word will no longer have any meaning with which I want to be
John Kaiser
arts 2
Islamic youth society did not meet
with group of UBC Iranian students
Under the dramatic heading
Hostage drama hits home (Ubyssey
Tuesday Nov. 20) I was surprised to
read that several UBC Iranian
students were to meet with the
Islamic youth society at UBC on
Thursday Nov. 22 to "discuss
possible methods of dealing with
the situation arising out of the
hostage taking in Tehran.','
This statement is totally inaccurate.
For the record, please note:
• The IYS at UBC is totally non-
• That at NO time have I or any
member of the IYS executive sought
a meeting with Iranian students to
specifically discuss the hostage taking;
• That Iranian students at UBC
were invited to attend a lecture by
Dr. Hanna Kassis organized by the
IYS on Thursday Nov. 22 on the
impact of Islam on the modern
I presume your reporter, Erica,
was confused about the purpose of
our invitation.
Kindly ensure that the readers of
The Ubyssey are appraised of the
facts as they really were.
Nazim Shirji
law 3
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'Bumps and jerks bug me'
As a fairly regular bicycle commuter to UBC, this letter is in
response to statements attributed to
Chuck Connaghan in Friday's
Ubyssey. It is possible that the
story does not reflect a full and accurate text of any statements the ad-
ministrator    may    have    made,
struction increases Westbrook traffic flow of both cars and cycles.
From the safety and function
standpoint cycle routes should be
completely autonomous from
automobile routes.
The cycle route beside University
Blvd. suffers from several bumps
Big heart is Short stuff
I don't know why everyone is bugging poor Brian Short. 1 mean,
whatever makes you mellow, right? Why, I'm even told some people
find meaning in getting tied up and hit. Or drinking poisoned kool-aid.
But I don't care what Brian or the rest of the hacks do, as long as they
also do their job. Take the tuition report, for example. I'm sure that
Brian will do a convincing job of explaining how financially tough it is
to be a student nowadays. After all, he's still one of us, is he not? He
must know what it's like to dodge landlords, does he not?
More than that, Brian should be a true inspiration to us all. While the
rest of us are squandering our money on food and occasionally rent,
Brian is saving $750 to improve himself to the $1,100 level at Lifespring.
Wow! That's phenomenal discipline, Brian. There's no doubt in my
mind that Brian Short's heart is with the average guy.
Fete Baran
commerce 2
however, I will comment on the
statements as they appeared.
The closing of the University
Blvd. route to bicycles, or rendering
it the obstacle course it currently is,
effectively severs the main bicycle
route into campus. Looking at the
alternatives there is Chancellor
Blvd. which involves considerable
sidetracking as does the 41st access
route. Sixteenth avenue I consider is
an undue safety risk to bicycle use
in its present shoulderless condition
during the morning rush hours.
It is unlikely that the main auto
route into this campus would be
rendered as useless as the main cycle
route is now. The placing of a few
bumps in a bicycle route might appear to be a minor problem to an
automobile driver but to my
magnesium alloy rims which do not
have the benefit of a shock absorber
system between them and the frame
the situation is more serious.
Westbrook admittedly does have
very wide shoulders but it runs
perpendicular to main entry routes
into campus and cannot at present
be considered a main access route.
These wide shoulders frequently
have cars parked on them, forcing
riders into the stream of traffic.
This problem is minor now but will
become more serious when the completion  of the   16th  Avenue con-
7:00 9:30
due to badly applied past repairs
and tree roots breaking the
asphalt. The path is very narrow
considering the combined velocity
of approaching cyclists is often in
the range of 40 to 60 miles per hour
Leaves do not seem to be cleared
frequently and form a soggy and
slippery  coating  to  much  of the
route. The odd pedestrian and jogger blunders innocently down the
path, seemingly oblivious to the
bicycles which weave past them trying to outguess their moves. The
route ends rather abruptly in the
village without giving a definite entry path to the campus. Now the
utility construction adds further to
making this an obstacle course.
Bicycles pose a pollution free
method of commuting to campus
for a considerable portion of the
population here. It is quite probable
that if more attention was paid to
the bicycle access routes, a few
more of the daily auto riders would
be riding bikes. Bicycles do not require multimillion dollar parking
facilities but do need smooth, car
free, paths.
The needs of bicycle riders should
not be rejected as easily as they
seem to be now and future proposals must involve input from
bicycle riders themselves.
Andrew W. F. Metten
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MULLINS . . . team play . . .
. . makes   Thunderbirds
giant slayers
Dinosaurs find 'Birds not extinct
UBC team efforts pay off
UBC's volleyball teams created a
few shock waves in Saskatoon during the first Canada West tournament on the weekend.
UBC women's team finished second behind defending national
champion University of Saskatchewan while the men's team finished third.
"It was, I think, a total surprise
to the Calgary and Alberta
coaches," said women's coach Sandy Silver. "They said they didn't
recognize many faces on our
Silver said it was a team effort
but singled out several players for
their performance.
"Kerry Hutchinson was very effective, and Tara Senft was unstoppable. No one could stop her when
she was hitting from the middle,"
said Silver.
The Thunderettes beat Calgary,
Alberta and Lethbridge by 3-0
scores, but lost to Saskatchewan 3-1
in the final match of the round
robin tourney.
The Thunderbirds, rebuilding
after a bad season last year, finished
a strong third in the men's tournament.
The three tournaments to decide
a western representative at the national championships will not
operate on an escalating point
system, the coaches decided. Ties
will be broken instead by the ratio
of points for and against, which
Silver said she didn't like.
"The system doesn't let me play
my bench," she said, and added
UBC beat Lethbridge 15-2, 15-2,
15-2, but had to keep the first string
in because the point difference
could be important in February.
The second and third tournaments will take place after
The Thunderettes will play in the
first round of the B.C. Volleyball
Association championships this
weekend at Simon Fraser University.
The Thunderbird wrestling team
continued to suffer from a shortage
of competitors as it dropped two
dual meets on the weekend.
The 'Birds lost 51-15 to Alberta
after they were unable to fill several
weight classes, then later Friday lost
to Central Washington University
29-19 for much the same reason.
Saturday UBC entered four
wrestlers in the Simon Fraser Invitational and they all finished third.
Peter Farkas in the 142 pound class,
Dexter Ratcliff in the 150, Lee
Blanchard in the 168 and coach
Craig Delahunt in the 177 pound
class all took the bronze.
The   Thunderbird   rugby   team
demolished Capilano 38-0 in Van
couver Rugby Union action on the
Graham Taylor had two tries,
two converts and two penalty goals
for the 'Birds, while John Olesen
returned to the first team after
several leg injuries and scored two
tries. Other tries came from Dale
Turkington, Roy Hoolihan, Peter
Mortifee and Don Halliday.
The Thunderbirds will meet the
University of Victoria Thursday at
noon in Thunderbird Stadium for
the "Boot". Admission is free to all
The UBC swim team travels to
the island for a dual meet against
the University of Victoria this
weekend. UBC coach Jack Kelso
said his men's team shows considerable strength but the women's
team is suffering from the loss of
several top swimmers.
It was quite a few years ago now
that a scout for the Philistine Slingshot League happened upon a
chap named Goliath. The subsequent scouting report told the-story:
enormous, strong and frightening,
but a mite on the slow side.
Somehow, UBC Thunderbird
basketball coach Peter Mullins got
ahold of that report.
The 'Birds played the part of
David to the Goliath act of the
University of Calgary Dinosaurs on
the weekend and split a pair of
Canada West games with the huge
The Thunderbirds utilized their
quickness and aggressiveness Friday
night at War Memorial Gym to
shock the Dinosaurs, ranked fourth
in the country, winning 75-69.
Saturday UBC almost repeated the
feat, losing 78-73 after leading by
one point with less than two
minutes remaining.
"Right at the end of Saturday's
game we took the ball off them four
times and got nothing," said
"1 think Calgary was lucky to get
out with a split."
Calgary has five players over
6'8", but Friday they succumbed to
ihe relentless pressure of UBC's full
court press. Saturday the 'Birds
were just as effective stealing the
ball but had their shooting accuracy-
drop off, hitting only 38 per cent
from the floor.
"We're in trouble if we don't put
the ball in the basket," said
Mullins. "We've got to average 45
per cent. If we do that, we're in
The 'Birds got 21 points from
guard John Stark in the Friday
night win while Bob Forsyth added
16. Saturday Forsyth had 20 points
and forward Rob Cholyk 16.
Mullins said team cooperation
and spirit were the big factors in
UBC's surprising success. He
pointed lo UBC teams of a few
years ago which would have been
beaten before they went onto the
"This team's not like that," he
said. "We've played unbelievably
well as a team."
"But we still have a long way to
go," he added.
The first step in that journey
comes on the weekend when UBC
will play in the University of Victoria Invitational tournament. Five
of the ten top-ranked teams in
Canada will be present, and -the
Thunderbird's first game Friday
will be against second-ranked
University of Winnipeg.
In women's action the
Thunderettes extended their league
winless streak to six, losing to
Calgary 53-47 Friday and 78-54
Saturday. Agnes Baker had 16
points Friday and 10 Saturday.
The Thunderettes host their annual tournament this weekend in
War Memorial Gym. Games start at
3 p.m. Friday and Saturday and at
8:30 a.m. Sunday, with the final
scheduled for 2:30 p.m. Sunday.
The Thunderettes first game is 9
p.m. Friday aganinst Eastern
Washington University.
Injuries give Halliwell pain
Women's basketball
UBC 47 Calgary 53
Men's basketball
UBC 75 Calgary 69
Men's ice hockey
UBC 6 Calgary 7
Men's wrestling
Alberta 51 UBC 15
Central Wash. 29 UBC 19
Women's field hockey
UBC 2 Jokers 0
Women's basketball
UBC 54 Calgary 78
Men's basketball
UBC 73 Calgary 78
Men's ice hockey
UBC 3 Calgary 8
Women's soccer
UBC 1 Victoria 1
Men's rugby
UBC 38 Capilanos 0
Braves 0 Caps II 7
Totems 20 Caps III 8
Frosh 22 Scribes 4
Women's soccer
UBC 1 Retreads 4
Women's field hockey
UBC 2 North Van 1
The UBC Thunderbird ice
hockey team had a poor harvest on
its weekend prairie doubleheader,
dropping two games to the University of Calgary.
UBC was edged 7-6 Friday in a
game decided by a last-minute
Calgary goal then lost 8-3 Saturday
in an injury-filled game.
"Saturday's loss was due to a
lack of healthy bodies," said UBC
coach Bert Halliwell. "Five UBC
players were at half-strength, but
we were forced to use them because
they were experienced. We lost
Marty Matthews and Bill Trenaman
Saturday with shoulder injuries,
while Ted Fostey was sidelined with
a vision problem due to a first-
period fracas."
Top scorer in Friday's match was
Jim McLaughlin with two goals,
while Ted Cotter, Dino Sita, Jay
Rumley and Matthews collected one
each. On Saturday, McLaughlin,
Rumley and Rob Jones were the
scorers with one goal each.
Men's ice hockey standings
GP     W       L   Pts.
Calgary 13      10       3      20
Alberta 13      10       3      20
UBC 13       7       6      14
Saskatchewan    12        5        7      10
Calgary led both games in shots
on goal, edging UBC 37-31 Friday
and 45-43 Saturday.
Halliwell said the league, which
was tighter earlier in the season, is
starting to separate with Calgary
rising to the top as expected. Alberta has a weak hold on first place but
Calgary is back at full strength with
no injured players, he said.
"We have six exhibition games
upcoming in December which will
give us a chance to rest our injured
and recoup strength," said
UBC will combine with the
University of Saskatchewan in a
special arrangement to play the
Canadian Olympic team on campus
Jan. 5. The scheduled UBC-
Saskatchewan series will be moved
to Jan. 3-4 to accomodate this
special game.
UBC will face-off against Delta
in exhibition on Thursday at Delta's
Sun God arena. Game time is 8:30


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