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The Ubyssey Nov 25, 1976

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Array Socreds hack UBC budget
The provincial government's
decision to withhold a $4.5 million
special grant to UBC will severely
restrict the university's operating
budget for 1977-78, administration
vice-president William White said
White, the administration
treasurer, had been depending on
having the $4.5 million included in
next year's budget.
"If that amount is not made up in
some way, it will be extremely
difficult," White said. "Dr. Kenny
will have to look for other sources
of revenue."
Administration president Doug
Kenny has publicly said he does not
want tuition fees to increase next
year. But he has also said the
administration would not involve
itself in political crossfire if the
government forces UBC to look to
tuition fee increases as a source of
Last spring a special grant of
$7.5 million was granted to the
universities council by the
provincial government. Of that
sum, UBC received $4.5 million,
boosting its operating budget to $92
million for 1976-77.
Education minister Pat McGeer
said in an interview Tuesday that
the $4.5 million was a "once-only
grant to permit universities to
write off all obligations." If the
grant was misallocated, he said, it
is the university's problem.
"The grant would free universities of any future obligations, so
that they are never in a position to
ask for a grant again,'' he said.
McGeer also said the government would definitely not include
the $4.5 million in next year's
budget to the universities.
But White said the money was
needed to meet "on-going salary
commitments. It was assumed that
the money would be built into the
budget in future years," he said.
White said the purpose of the
grant was to help the university
meet salary commitments so the
expectations were that the grant
would come through.
Vol. LIX, No. 28    VANCOUVER, B.C., THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 1976     «€3^>4S   228-2301
And Basil Peters, student board
of governors member, said
Tuesday that costs for wages of
faculty and staff are expected to
increase 10 to 15 per cent.
So, assuming that no new
programs are implemented, the
university must receive $11 to $12
million more next year to offset
costs. With the loss of the government's $4.5 million grant the total
amount needed is $15.5 to $16.5
And since the two main sources
of revenue are the government's
grant and student fees, the difference needed must come from
these sources. This year, the
government gave the administration $92 million. Student
fees brought $12.4 million.
See page 7: BOG
Cocke hits at
high tuitions
Tuition fees should be
eliminated, Dennis Cocke,
provincial NDP education critic
said Wednesday.
Tbeiievein education as a right,
including post-secondary
education," Cocke said. "Anybody
who has a yearning for higher
education should have access to it.
A tuition fee increase runs counter
to this argument.
'T certainly support those of you
who have taken a position against
an increase in tuition fees," Cocke
said. But he said his support is on
behalf of those who can't afford to
come to UBC.
Cocke said although much of the
working class is now middle class
and can afford post-secondary
education, there are still many
people who are poor. He said these
people are kept out of higher
■ 'One of the most offensive things
in education is using money as a
way of keeping people out, of
keeping (so-called) triflers out,"
Cocke said.
Cocke challenged young people
to get a good education and to
respond to the stresses of society
and the need of others to get a good
education. "More than anything
we need participation," Cocke
said. "There should be discussions
at the university about what we
should do in the future.
"There should be an improvement in the education
climate. There's far too much
general dissatisfaction among
Cocke said almost $4 billion is
spent on education and health care
each year in B.C. "We can only
continue to pay these bills if there
are people out there who can carry
the load to pay them," he said.
He said there must be a set of
checks and balances in education
Cocke said he thinks the Insurance Corporation of B.C. surplus this year will be about $100
million. He said the NDP would try
to hold Pat McGeer, minister of
education and ICBC president, to
his promise of rebates for those
drivers who do not submit an accident report.
Cocke said McGeer will likely
; spread the loot around by offering
rebates to other age groups besides
the under-25s. But he said the
rebate offer was unfair because all
those who had submitted accident
reports will be ineligible, even if
they were not at fault in the accident.
Cocke said McGeer as minister
in charge of ICBC is unresponsive
to the public. "If he's going to do
the same thing in education it's
unfortunate," Cocke said.
He's firmly entrenched with the
new group (Social Credit) now and
it's the bottom line syndrome,"
Cocke said. McGeer was formerly
a Liberal MLA.
Cocke said if the Socreds lower
ICBC rates, it will probably be
prior to an election.
If we get back into government,
we won't turn it (car insurance)
back to private firms.
Cocke said money from ICBC
premiums is invested in B.C. He
said if private firms had access to
the premiums, the bulk of the investments would be made outside
the province.
Cocke was vice-chairman of
ICBC while the NDP was in power.
If the private enterprise system
can produce nothing better than 10
or 15 per cent unemployment, or
even 30 per cent in Terrace, then
the system is a failure," Cocke
said. "Where it fails there is a
necessity for the government to
intercede in the marketplace.
"We were criticized when we
were in the government for interfering in the marketplace." He
said thousands of jobs were saved
by the NDP government's purchase of Canadian Cellulose and
other smaller firms.
"Unless we start thinking in
those terms again and put people
again as a top priority then we're
in deep trouble," he said.
V">"« ■«
RARE SPECIMEN, aimless rubber-skinned cyclist flies across campus in daring bid
later recaptured and returned to Pango Pango zoo, where his bicycle was confiscated.
—doug field photo
to escape rain. He was
Trident protester hauled out of court
Anti-Trident protester Jim
Douglass was hauled out af a U.S.
district courtroom Tuesday as he
tried to read a prepared statement
before he was sentenced on two
counts of trespassing and destruction of government property.
Douglass    and    four     other
protesters received sentences
ranging from 30 to 90 days on
charges stemming from a fence-
cutting protest \ug. 8 at the
Trident nuclear sul marine base in
Bangor, Wash.
The protesters are members of
the Pacific Life Communities in
New Westminster and Seattle. The
PLC is a pacifist group aiming to
halt the spread of nuclear weapons
through non-violent protest.
Douglass, and John William of
Seattle, have both said they will
fast for their entire 90-day jail
terms. The two men received
concurrent 60 and 90-day sentences
on   trespassing   and   destruction
SRA against Blandford plan
The student representative assembly Wednesday
overwhelmingly rejected the principle of instituting
differential fees for out-of-province students.
The motion to oppose a differential fee system was
a reaction to a proposal by student senator Joan
Blandford to introduce such a system at UBC. Under
this system out-of-province students would pay more
than B.C. students, and foreign students would pay
even higher tuition fees, she said in an interview
Blandford, who was not present at the SRA
meeting, admitted she did not know what effect such
a system would have on the university budget. She
also said she did not know how many out-of-province
or foreign students there were at UBC. "I haven't
done all the groundwork yet to speak to the motion.
I'll have to find out how many people it will affect,"
she said.
Moe Sihota, external affairs officer, said that a
differential fee system would have an effect on the
university budget of about 3/10 of one per cent.
According to the registrar's office there are a total
of 3,715 foreign students enrolled at UBC this year. Of
these students, 2,675 are landed immigrants who will
presumably become Canadians some day.
Sihota said that an increase in fees for students
from other countries would limit the number of
students from underdeveloped countries who would
be   able   to   afford  any   education    here.    "The
See page 2: SRA
charges, as did Jo Maynes, also of
Douglass completed a 30-day fast
in Washington, D.C, Nov. 2. He
lost 34 pounds in that fast, but PLC
member Marty Osberg of the
Community's house in New
Westminster said Wednesday
Douglass has regained his weight
and strength.
Magistrate John Weinberg gave
Douglass' wife Shelley concurrent
30 and 60-day sentences for the
same offences, and Caroline
Wildflower of Seattle was sentenced to 30 days for illegally reentering the Trident base after
receiving a previous barring letter.
The Aug. 8 demonstration
protested the building of the
Trident base, which by 1979 will be
the home of at least 10 550-foot
nuclear subs.
The submarines are designed to
each carry 408 individually-guided
nuclear warheads, which will
make the Trident system the most
powerful in the world. It will be
capable of launching a first-strike
See page 2: JAIL Page 2
Thursday, November 25, 1976
SRA reps don't like fee plan
From page 1
education of foreign students is one
of th e cheapest forms of foreign aid
Canada can provide," Sihota said.
No one spoke in favor of differential tuition fees and there was
only one vote against the motion.
The motion stressed the
desirability of having foreign
students as a part of the university
Basil Peters, student member of
the board of governors, said he
doubted -the issue would arise
during the next board meeting.
Provincial governments in
Ontario and Alberta have decided
that there should be higher fees for
The Alberta government is
pressuring that province's
university boards of governors to
raise tuition fees for foreigners but
the boards are fighting such a
move. They have hiked tuition fees
for foreign students at the
University of Calgary.
Peters said other provincial
governments are watching the
effects of the system in Ontario,
before deciding whether to apply it
in their provinces.
UBC would probably not demand
higher tuition fees from foreign
students, said Peters. "I doubt that
the board of governors would be in
favor of differential fees," he said.
Sihota said that apart from the
United States and Ontario, most
western countries do not have
differential tuition fees.
Jail sentences set
From page 1
assault on at least 4080 targets at
Half-way through reading his
prepared statement Douglass, who
holds joint Canadian and American
citizenship, began to speak about
Canada-U.S. relationships and
Canadian involvement in the
Trident project.
Weinberg declared this
irrelevant and asked Douglass to
confine his remarks to the case.
Douglass continued reading
from his statement and Weinberg
ordered him removed from the
A sixth convicted protester who
was also scheduled to be sentenced
Tuesday did not appear in court.
Laurie Raymond was arrested
Monday night by Washington
police for spray-painting a
downtown Seattle theatre and was
still in jail at the time of the sentencing.
She was sentenced Dec. 6 with
three other people arrested at the
Aug. 8 protest.
The protesters are being held in
the King County jail in Seattle.
Three other anti-Trident
protesters were found guilty
Tuesday in Seattle on charges of
destruction of government
property during another fence-
cutting protest at the Bangor base
Sept. 19.
They will be sentenced Dec. 30 by
judge   Donald   Voorhees,   who
earlier this year gave 30-day jail
terms to three women involved in a
May demonstration inside the
Trident base.
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Page 3
Foreign students hit fee motion
Many foreign students will be hit
hard if they are forced to pay
higher tuition fees than B.C.
residents, a Ubyssey survey has
Some foreign students interviewed Wednesday said other
studies at UBC are subsidized and
they would not have any trouble
paying higher fees, but others said
higher fees would make it difficult
for them to continue here.
The students were reacting to a
notice of motion, presented to UBC
senate by student education
senator Joan Blandford, which
advocates increasing tuition fees
for students from outside the
Joseph Sugasaga, fine arts 2,
said he will undergo financial
hardship if foreign students' fees
are increased.
"I am paying my own way and I
think any increases will affect
me," he said. "The economic
situation in B.C. is getting worse
and worse. You have to pay more
for clothing, housing and food, and
so any increase in fees will make
these costs harder to pay."
Sugasaga said he is already
considering dropping out of UBC
and going to another university.
He said he doubts the money the
university would get from
collecting higher fees for foreign
students would have much effect
on the university's budget. "I
would understand if foreign
students were 50 per cent of the
university population. But such a
small percentage, how will this
benefit the university?"
There are 3,715 foreign students
enrolled at UBC but 2,675 of them
are landed immigrants and would
not be affected by fee increases.
Another 369 students are being
sponsored by their home governments and so would not feel the
effects of an increase.
So only 643 foreign students, here
on student visas, would be affected.
Other students said their
financial situation is difficult
because they are not allowed to
work while living in Canada on a
student visa.
Yau-Nam Cham, - business
graduate   studies,   said:    "It"is
impossible for foreign students to
get a job in the summer. No matter
how hard the employer may want
to (hire the student). The fee increases will definitely reject some
of these students."
Another student, Raphael
Ramotete, said foreign students
who do not have government
sponsorship find it hard to meet the
costs of studying in B.C.
"I think for the third world
countries it is a disaster, for it is
cutting off a channel towards
higher education."
Another problem for foreign
students is that it is hard for them
to receive grants when they are
outside their home countries.
"In my opinion the Canadians
can do what they wdnt. The
Canadian politicians must listen to
what the Canadian public wants. If
they want to increase fees for
foreign students, then the
politicians must do it," Ramotete
Mireille Arnold said she is here
on a Canada Council grant so fee
increases would not affect her.
But she said: "It does not seem
fair to increase, foreign student
fees since they face higher expenses than do Canadian
She said foreign students contribute a lot to the university
academically and if some are kept
away by higher fees the academic
standards of UBC will suffer.
Jaime Nierras, commerce
graduate studies, said many
foreign students, however, will not
care if fees are increased because
they are subsidized to attend
university and their fees are paid.
Teacher training at UBC
unfairly criticized—dean
Allegations that student
illiteracy is caused by poor teacher
training are exaggerated,
education dean John Andrews said
But he said there are some faults
in the faculty's program training
teachers to teach English.
Andrews was commenting on a
report put out to the provincial
education department, in which
some teachers surveyed expressed
dissatisfaction with their
university training.
"Virtually every profession has
this difficulty," he said. "The
members run into practical
situations difficult to handle, and it
is natural to blame the training
"However, we (the faculty of
education) need to do a good deal
more than we presently are doing
with respect to language-arts and
Andrews said some changes to
programs have been made and
more are being considered. One of
the biggest changes was made two
years ago when a course in reading
for elementary school teachers
became mandatory.
But, Andrews said, this has not
yet had any effect on teaching.
Screening and remedial tests
have also been implemented to
ensure that grammar and
language education students use is
Bill Broadley, B.C. Teachers
Federation president, said the
problem lies in communication
between the high schools and the
"Teachers attack the faculty of
education, the universities attack
the high schools, the high schools
attack the elementary schools, and
the elementary schools attack the
parents," he said. "But all these
attacks don't help to solve the
"Steps need to be taken to improve communication between the
faculty of education and schools."
Broadley said: "UBC has
traditionally been the most difficult to reach. But within the last
few years, there have been some
innovations and programs have
been made more meaningful to
Broadley and Andrews also had
opinions about education minister
Pat McGeer's decision to create
province-wide English placement
"It will depend on the way in
which the results from these
exams are used," Andrews said.
"If they are to be used to place
students in different kinds of
English programs, I think the
exams will be beneficial. But if
they are to be used for admission
purposes, the results could be
"Although that is not the intention right now, I'm afraid it
could happen."
Broadley said he does not have
too much faith in the idea of an
"Is the result of one exam — a
number — going to allow the
university to place students in
appropriate courses?" he asked.
"Foran indication of a student's
work, a teacher should take a lot of
assessments during the school
year. This would be a better indication to universities regarding
student achievement."
He said placement tests do not
take into account factors such as
how a student will feel on the day
he is given the exam.
"I have a great fear in the
confidence which people give to the
credibility of numbers," he said.
I'm afraid these placement tests
will become like IQ tests were a
few years ago. A student will get a
number stamped on them that tells
what they can and cannot do."
Robert Jordan, UBC's English
department head, said the
education faculty isn't all to blame
for the teaching training problem.
"That includes the English
department," Jordan said
He said the education department's report makes the point that
English teachers should be trained
in   English   skills.
The English department has
improved over the past several
years, Jordan said, and results in
the report on teacher training have
a time lag because many teachers
have not undergone training for
several years. But he added there
is still room for improvement.
But he said improving university
training and giving teachers more
time for each student will
ultimately cost money.
He said the grade 12 exam will
help both the faculty and the
students. "It will give us a lot more
time to deal with the results,"
Jordan said.
The education department's
development of the report and the
exam are "encouraging," said
Jordan, "but at the same time I'm
frightened by all these cutbacks."
—doug field photo
TRAPPED BY PERSPECTIVE, students study furiously, unaware of
glass cage closing around them. Students were kidnapped by mad
pyschologist in  Henry Angus who  mistook them for rats.
Differential fees imposed at Calgary
advanced    education
that the board take such
The request was contained in a
private letter to board chairman
Ross Mackimmie.
Mackimmie denied Tuesday that
the board had had undue pressure
exerted on it by the government.
He said the board had been "pretty
responsible" in its decision  and
University of Calgary board of
governors has bowed to pressure
from the provincial government
and implemented increased tuition
fees for visa students at the
The decision to add a $300 increase for new visa students was
announced Tuesday and follows a
"request"   from   Bert   Hohol,
Raid policy set
RCMP staff Sgt. Al Hutchinson said Tuesday he has issued a lengthy set
of instructions to UBC's detachment as a result of a police raid on a
Totem Park floor mixer Friday night.
The instructions clarify detachment policy.
"Student rooms are considered to be private residences, and police
officers areonly to go there for two reasons," Hutchinson said.
Police should go to residences only in response to a direct complaint or
in a public service role to convey messages, such as a death in the family,
he said.
Hutchinson is conducting an inquiry into the raid by five RCMP
members, led by Corp. David Patterson, which shut down a mixer on fifth
floor Haida. He said the investigation is not complete and no action has
been taken against Patterson.
"I'm still waiting for the rest of the students' statements to complete
the investigation," he said.
claimed the university's autonomy
'had not been compromised."
But, board member Harvey
Buckmaster, a physics professor,
said Tuesday that Hohol had
threatened to change the
province's Universities' Act, which
says only the board can implement
fee increases, if the board did not
go along with his wishes.
"The minister said 'you do it
(oppose fee increase) and I'll
change the act,"' Buckmaster
Vic Cowley, students' union
services vice president, said the
move will generate very little new
revenue for the university. If the
same number of new internationals is admitted next year
as in the current year, only an
extra $12,000 would be raised, he
In its resolution, the board said
differential tuition fees would
discourage students in lower income brackets from attending the
university, restricting attendance
to those who have the money and
not necessarily the academic
The resolution   also   said   "any
Canadian university of stature"
must have ''an appreciable
number" of visa students. It said
Canadian universities "have a
responsibility to contribute to the
higher education of visa students,"
especially those from third world
and developing nations.
The increased fee will be implemented only for next year's
newcomers and will not affect visa
students already enrolled at the U
of C.
After next year, tuition fees may
be determined by the board and
approved by the minister, the
resolution said.
The resolution also called for a
royal commission to look further
into the role of visa students in
Board member Pat Ruby-
O'Conner, students' union
president, said she is "pretty
disgusted" with the board's
decision. It was made under a
great deal of political pressure
from Edmonton, she said.
Ruby-O'Conner said she would
have preferred a board resolution
clearly and firmly opposing differential tuition fees. Page 4
Thursday, November 25, 1976
Rot 'n* roll
What's wrong with Rolling Stone magazine indicates
what's wrong with rock 'n' roll: it's no longer culture, it's
business. The counter culture has become the
over-the-counter culture.
This year, Rolling Stone moved its offices from San
Francisco to New York, for two reasons: one, New York is
where the money is, and two, New York is where the
political action is, and there's nothing — not even money —
Stone editor Jann Wenner would rather have than a U.S.
Senate seat. Now all we're waiting for is for Rolling Stone (of
which Xerox holds controlling interest, by-the-by) to change
its name to Rostoco Inc., producing the magazine as a
"leisure service of Xerox."
Recently, the Stone devoted a whole issue to Richard
Avedon photos of people who are somehow supposed to be
America's leading lights. Some names were unrecognizable. A
few issues later, one of these supposed leading lights wrote a
letter to the Stone, thanking them for honoring him by
including his picture. Many people whom he didn't even
realize read Rolling Stone congratulated him on the portrait,
this man wrote.
And who was this so-honored man? The president of the
largest advertising firm on this globe. It would be cynical to
suggest that the Stone ran his picture for that reason
(magazines like Stone like lots of attention from advertising
companies, especially the world's largest advertising
Rolling Stone has reached middle age. It used to write
honestly about rock music, an important part of a vital,
growing culture. Now, like the culture, like the music,
Rolling Stone has reached fat, comfortable middle age. In its
heyday, Rolling Stone had no golden calves. Even Bob Dylan
was dumped when he turned out a lousy record. But that
attitude died when John Lennon produced a record that so
awed Rolling Stone that they decided they were not worthy
of writing about it.
And Rolling Stone is a good analogy for rock music.
Apart from reggae music, there have been no new musical
developments since the late 1960s. Most rock musicians are
doing the same sort of thing they were doing 10, 20 years
ago, and in many cases are literally doing the same stuff
(George Harrison, for example). The other day, a CITR jock
told us that so far this year, only three non-disco singles have
topped North American popularity charts this year. Disco?
The name of Elvis Presley's first greatest hit record was
something like 50 Million People Can't Be Wrong. Maybe, but
taste is another matter.
"Why do I do it?      'Cuz one of these times he's gonna get his foot stuck, that's why."
Look for fee vote encore
It's ironic that the referendum on
honorary membership for students' spouses,
which received fewer votes than any other
referendum, passed while two referenda,
receiving a larger percentage of the vote,
The reason is that the Alma Mater
Society constitution requires a two thirds
majority in favor of any referendum
involving money. So while an overwhelming
majority of students are in favor of raising
student fees by $5, the 37 per cent who
voted against the. measure got their way.
Don't be surprised if council comes up
with an amendment to the constitution: that
if more than say, 20 or 25 per cent of the
students vote, then only a simple majority is
needed to pass a fee referendum.
Why the change? Because, believe it or
not, you're going to face another fee
referendum before this winter session is out.
Council realizes that a fee increase realiy is
necessary and we're going to get fee
referenda thrown at us until we finally pass
doesn't know
what it takes
I wasn't very pleased after
reading your article, Alien motion
ill-informed, in Tuesday's
Ubyssey. Asa matter of fact, I was
quite disgusted and as a foreign
student I feel very discriminated
Joan Blandford hasn't the
vaguest idea what it takes to come
and study here. Many foreign
students have taken considerable
barriers to come and study at UBC.
Service in the armed services first,
hassle with both governments or
just scraping an incredible amount
of money together in our own
currency just to study here.
UBC rates are some of the
highest in the world today. How
would you like to be confronted
with higher rates just because you
want to study in another country,
or because the study you've chosen
is more specialized somewhere
The biggest laugh is she wants to
discriminate against her own
countrymen as foreigners. She has
my pity for being so narrow-
minded. It's a first class example
of degrading Canada's level of
education. Just remember that
Canada also has a considerable
amount of students abroad.
If possibilities for international
EUS-injured 'innocence'
Congratulations, kids. The
Ubyssey has done it again.
If anything can be done to tarnish the image of a well-loved and
respected group on campus this
rag will leap at the opportunity. I
am referring of course to the Nov.
18 reporting of the CUS (CUS?
Canadian University Students?)
pool table incident. What pool
table? Who cares?
In looking for a chance to slander
(sic) anyone who wears red, your
ace reporter was duped by an
almost clever, halfbaked plot by
CUS to drum up support and in-
terestamongst their dull and dumb
comrades. The main theme of the
CUS turkeys' plot was to set
commerce students against
engineers (or anyone handy), a
tactic copied rather blatantly from
education were hampered by
Blandford's motion it certainly
would be a very bleak situation for
every student, regardless of race,
creed or origin. Everybody is
affected by an increase in fees. We
combined our strength when our
government tried to raise our fees
(to $300) and we succeeded in
stopping that because we took
more appropriate and effective
So use your common sense, Joan
Blandford. Thank God not all
people are like you.
Jeremy Ralph
geology 5
Ralph is a former student council
member at the Vrye Universiteit of
TAs discuss union today
those great CUS heroes, A. Hitler
and Co.
Needless to say, a little shrewd
detective work by Sherlock Civil
uncovered this singularly grisly
scheme. By cleverly feeding one
and one-half beers to a fourth year
commerce cluck (he bought) I
ferreted out the information that
the table was in fact ripped off by
those Classic Cry Babies, the CUS
Nice try, Henderson. You might
have gotten away with your little
caper if you had blamed it on the
AUS, SUS, PEUS or any other dead
and dying campus group, but
really, the EUS is out of your
Well, back to your vibrators, eh
John Knappett
applied science 2
There may be some misunderstanding among graduate
students of the activities of the
Graduate Committee on TAs due
to the article published in The
Ubyssey on Nov. 16 entitled UBC
TAs to form union?
One may receive the impression
that the GCTA has already decided
to form a union of TAs and is in the
process of doing so. The position of
the GCTA on all matters is
available in the GCTA Newsletter
which appears about every two
weeks, copies of which are posted
in every graduate department and
sent to The Ubyssey. I quote the
paragraph  in   Newsletter   No.   4
NOVEMBER 25, 1976
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the
university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of
B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS
or the university administration. Member, Canadian University
Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly commentary
and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301;
Advertising, 228-3977.
Co-Editors: Sue Vohanka, Ralph Maurer
It was Heather Walker's fifth birthday within living memory, and all the
kiddies from The Ubyssey had gathered for a birthday party. Marcus Gee
cried because none of the presents were for him, while little Chrissie Gainor
snitched hunks of cake when he thought nobody was looking. Stevie Howard
looked adorable in a blue satin sailor suit with a matching bow in his hair.
Susie Vohanka showed little Ralphie Maurer and Mikey Bocking her pink
panties, while Scoopie the fearless growing newspuppy and Dougie McMullin
looked on. Shelley Roberts and Jannie Nicol played Pin the Tail on the
Donkey but pinned it on Teddy Davis and Verne McDonald instead. Kathy
Ford and Vickey Booth, resplendent in frilly dresses, popped Matt King's
and Dougie Fields' balloons.
which is relevant to the issue of
forming a union:
.Although the GCTA has committed itself to not taking any large
scale action until the results of the
questionnaire are known, an
opinion was voiced and supported
that we should start considering
what form our action should take to
achieve our desired objectives.
One of the possible avenues that
has been considered by TAs is that
of unionization. In order to understand better the consequences
of this type of action, the next
meeting is being devoted to the
discussion of the possibility of
forming a union (as at Simon
Fraser University), or a
bargaining association (as at the
University of Toronto). The GCTA
will hear reports of TA organizing
at other Canadian universities.
This should be the first of many
discussions in which all opinions
will be considered, and all those
who wish to voice their opinions
are encouraged to attend."
I would like to point out that
today's meeting will be the first
meeting at which the union issue
will be discussed explicitly. I take
this opportunity to invite all
graduate students interested in the
GCTA to attend the regular
meetings, as this is by far the best
way to keep informed of our activities.
David Chapman
for the GCTA
Letters should be addressed to
the paper care of campus mail or
dropped off at The Ubyssey office,
SUB 241-K. Thursday, November 25, 1976
Page 5
Ubyssey quote inaccurate, claims AUCE organizer
I am writing with respect to the
article entitled Students surprised
at admin raises which was
published on the front page of the
Friday Ubyssey, in which I was
inaccurately quoted. I would
request that you publish this letter
as a matter of courtesy as it will
serve as a retraction.
In the final paragraph of the
above mentioned article you made
reference to a statement allegedly
made or rather implied (you failed
to use quotation marks which
would indicate that the author was
not reporting verbatim
statements) by myself as
spokeswoman for local 1. Whether
the statement was meant to be
implicit or explicit it is certainly
contrary to any of the statements I
made over the telephone to your
Firstly, when I was approached
on this issue I maintained that
AUCE concerned themselves with
corresponding groups, employees
at other universities, when
drawing up proposals for increases
in wages and that we were not
overly concerned with what the big
brass received. I also told the
reporter that we did not discuss the
increases recently received by the
president and vice-presidents and
$3.50 too much to pay for movies
Since this seems to be a mini-   $3.50 a shot for us to view what has
Winter of Discontent at this
university, I thought I'd throw in
another worthy cause for us to
raise a stink about. Namely, the
absurd practice of the majority of
theatres in Vancouver in charging
recently been the crappiest
collection of celluloid garbage in
recent memory.
What with higher car insurance,
rents, food costs, bus fares, etc., it
Plagiarism probe begins
At the moment this university
has no official definition of
plagiarism nor any standard
procedures for handling cases of
alleged plagiarism. This is not to
the students' advantage. Nor to the
professors'. It would be better for
everyone if there were some impartial standards and procedures
that could be invoked in cases of
dispute. Otherwise one student
might end up being flunked for
something which hardly seemed to
him/her to be plagiarism, while
someone else might only have to do
a rewrite — even though every
word of his/her essay was copied
straight from some text.
The Faculty of Arts has recently
set up a committee to study
plagiarism. This committee
realizes it needs student input to
make a sensible recommendation.
The members of this committee
are Bill Anglin, Lois Bewley,
Elizabeth Bongie, S. K. Heniger,
Jon Kesselman, R. I. Sikora and
Tannis Williams. We would like to
get a message through to students
to let us know what they think
about plagiarism. Please contact
anyoneof us. I can be reached care
of the philosophy department or in
Brock 165.
Bill Anglin
student faculty rep
is high time we made an effort in
the opposite direction. Depending
upon how much student interest is
shown, I would like to start up a
petition urging the Famous
Players and Odeon chains to immediately allow student rates to be
applied to all university students,
instead of their present policy of
granting this saving to 18 year olds
and younger, as is the case in every
theatre in town, with the only
exceptions to this being the Varsity
and the Dunbar as far as I know.
Hopefully a strong demonstration of our concern would
convince them that the monetary
loss on individual tickets would be
more than compensated by a
substantial increase in student
So please, send your opinions to
The Ubyssey, and if enough of you
show an interest in this, I will start
work on the petition as soon as
^ " Kevin McGee
political science 4
that our union had no opinions to
render on the subject. The only
time during our conversation that
the amount of $2,400 was mentioned was when the reporter
asked me if it was true that that
amount was the maximum allowed
for under the Anti-Inflation Board
guidelines — to which I answered
To reiterate AUCE's position on
the AIB guidelines it can be simply
said that we are opposed to them.
We do not consider them to be a
fair criterion for establishing wage
increases, whether they be increases received by labor or
management. The statement
published, "'the increase was
within the guidelines and the union
would therefore consider it
reasonable" is certainly not my
statement, nor sentiments. As a
union representative I do not feel
that the restrictions placed on
Canada's working people by the
AIB are in any way reasonable in
light of the quasi-restraints placed
on prices. But that's a whole different ball game that I could write
a few pages on so I'll spare you.
Inclosing I would appreciate it if
in the future your paper's reporting was more objective than
subjective. I ask this as a student
as well as a member of staff, and
as you referred to me as a
spokeswoman. There are 1,400
members of AUCE local 1 and
misquotation lead to
misrepresentation of a lot of people
in the university community.
Fairleigh Funston
union organizer
What Funston actually said,
when asked her opinion of the
raises given the president and vice-
presidents, was "In light of the
Anti-Inflation Board, the raises are
in keeping with the guidelines."
As she says, AUCE does not
consider the AIB guidelines
reasonable, and "unarguable"
would probably have summed up
her statement more accurately.
Funston also said AUCE used
increases granted to other campus
unions in presenting their own
arguments in contract
negotiations, in particular the
Canadian Union of Public Employees, but would not be able to
use figures relating to university
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Most UBC students will be
eating real food during the
Christmas holidays and probably
nobody cares when food services
outlets will be closed. But here are
Hot flashes
the   dates   they   will   be   closed
• the old auditorium cafeteria
will close Dec. 11 and reopen Jan.
• the Barn will close Dec. 21,
Buchanan snack bar. Bus Stop and
IRC snack bar will close Dec. 23
and reopen Jan. 3;
• Place    Vanier    and   Totem
'Tween classes
noon,    SUB
Testimony     meeting,
Lecture     and     slide     show
avalanches, noon, Chem 150.
General     meeting
International House 402.
Managing Our Priorities, noon, SUB
Luncheon     get-together,     noon,
Ponderosa cafeteria.
C-West meeting, noon, SUB 247.
General meeting, noon, SUB 212A.
General      meeting,     noon,     Grad
Student Centre.
Organizational   meeting,   noon,  old
Civils 201.
Handbuilding class, noon, SUB 261.
of     a     Fisherman,
cents,    12:45    p.m.,
Film      Song
admission    50
SUB ballroom.
Group    meditation    and
lecture, noon, Buto. 297.
Lecture,     Rev.     Rot     Bell
noon, Chem 250.
The peasant in Tolstoy's though and
writings, noon, Bu 2238.
Social     event,     bring     slides     and
photos, 8 p.m., SUB clubs room.
Fellowship     meeting,     7:30     p.m.,
Lutheran Campus Centre lounge.
"A showcase of bright baubles"
— Vancouver Sun
A subscription series of music
recitals by UBC faculty and
students, presented by the UBC
Alumni Association in
cooperation with the UBC
department of music.
The student concert November
25th will feature works by
Franck, Brahms, Beethoven and
Series tickets, $8, ensure a
reserved seat. Individual
recitals, $2/ticket. Student
concerts Jan. 20, Feb. 3 and
Feb. 17 will feature a variety
of vocal and instrumental
Recital Hall, Music Building,
UBC, 8 p.m.
Free Rehearsal Concerts for
Students every Tuesday
preceding Thursday Concert
- 12:30 p.m.. Recital Hall,
Music Building.
For tickets or information, contact
UBC Alumni Association, 62S1
Cecil Green Park Road, Vancouver
V6T 1X8   (228-3313).
Early Reservations Advised
Bear and pizza night — members
only. Bring I.D., 6 to 11 p.m., SUB
Forum   on  CLC  manifesto,
1208 Granville.
A ristophanes
E c c I esiazusae,     8
Bible study, noon, SUB 212A.
Films:     Essay     on     Science
Computer   In    Space,    12:40
Henn. 202.
General meeting, noon, SUB 215.
General   meeting,   7:45   p.m.,   SUB
Folk song group, 5:30 to 7:30 p.m.,
SUB 213.
Meeting,  noon,  International House
8 p.m.,
p.m.,      BU
Park residence cafeterias will close
Dec. 21 after dinner and reopen
Jan. 3;
• SUB cafeteria closes Dec. 17
after lunch and SUB snack bar
will be closed holidays and
weekends from Dec. 24 to Jan. 3.
Hours of operation will be 8:30
a.m.-to 3:30 p.m.
• the SUB pizza parlor will
close Dec. 19 and not reopen until
Jan. 3 except for special parties.
• the gym cafeteria will close
Dec. 8.
Next time you're trying to
outski an avalanche, you'll wish
you'd attended the Varsity
Outdoor Club presentation on
avalanche safety.
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It's election time...
Politicos after BoG, senate seats
Student politicos are already
champing at the bit for the annual
race for board of governors and
senate seats, which go up for grabs
Jan. 19.
At this early stage of the campaign, it looks like the biggest fight
is going to be for the two board
seats now occupied by Basil Peters
and Rick Murray.
Murray will not be running
because he is no longer a student,
but Peters, an electrical
engineering student, said Wednesday he intends to run again.
Moe Sihota, Alma Mater Society
external affairs officer, is also
planning to run. He said it is
unlikely Peters will be re-elected,
BoG faces
$$ squeeze
From page 1
But if the grant leaves the administration short of funds, the
board of governors will be forced to
increase fees to meet the estimated
$15.5 to $16.5 million deficit.
So next year's tuition fees would
have to increase from the basic fee
of about $460 to $1,138 if no cutbacks are made. If the government
increases this year's operating
grant by $8 million, student fees
would rise to $570.
Deputy education minister
Walter Hardwick has indicated the
universities will receive little or no
increase in their operating budgets
next year. And in a similar warning to B.C. community colleges,
McGeer has said operating
budgets will not increase much
until there is an upturn in the
provincial economy.
but admitted Peters is his
strongest opponent.
Sihota said Peter's campaign
last year was freedom of information for students. But: "I
don't think he has kept students in
the know. A lot of the things which
happen on the board have not been
discussed in the student
representative assembly," said
Peters said there are certain
matters discussed on the board
which are privileged information
because they sometimes involve
staff, hiring, firing, tenure and
promotion. "I appreciate the
criticisms of my politically ambitious colleague, but I have attended all SRA meetings and have
reported on all open board matters," he said.
Peters said his strongest point is
that he has not resigned his
position as many other student
politicos have done, and that he
represents a middle-of-the-road
viewpoint shared by most students.
Bob Salkeld, president of the
science undergraduate society,
will also run for a board seat.
Salkeld said he is against increases in tuition fees at this time.
Selkeldsaid a major plank of his
platform will be a demand for a
report about university financing.
The report would examine alternative methods of financing
education so that tuition fee increases can be avoided.
But Salkeld may have damaged
his chances for a board seat by
resigning from his position as SUS
representative on senate.
Another possible contender for
the board is Roger Schiffer, a first-
year law student and former Simon
Fraser University senator. There
is speculation he will run because
he tried to create a vacancy on the
board by having Rick Murray
Schiffer was unavailable for
comment Wednesday.
That controversy arose when
Murray did not return to UBC this
year as a student but decided to try
to keep his student seat on the
There will likely be. other contenders for the board, but at this
early stage it looks like the candidates mentioned will be the front-
The engineering undergraduate
society will likely have a candidate, and will undoubtedly give
unofficial support to current board
member Peters.
The race for senate seats is less
clear-cut, as the number of
positions available is greater.
There are five senators-at-large to
be elected and 12 positions to be
selected from the undergraduate
Maureen Peters and Bob Chow,
who were recently elected
senators-at-large in a byelection
last fall, will probably run again.
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president and current arts rep on
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fall as AMS president and it has
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Thursday, November 25, 1976
Charges laid after Chevron tiff
University of Waterloo student
federation executive member was
apprehended in a rock-throwing
incident late Sunday, which
shattered a window in the office of
The Chevron, the student
newspaper suspended by the
federation two months ago.
Franz Klingender was
questioned after the incident.
A campus security spokesman
said Tuesday charges will be laid
by campus security "within the
next couple of days." Klingender is
scheduled to appear in court Dec.
Klingender is one of two
federation councillors recalled by
their constituents last week in a
petition for failing to carry out
campaign promises and backing
federation president Shane
Roberts in attempts to stop The
Chevron from publishing.
However, Roberts has refused to
accept the recall petitions because
of a technicality — they lack
presidential approval.
A petition is also circulating to
recall Roberts and, according to
the Free Chevron published by
Chevron staff, about 1,000 of the
necessary 2,300 signatures have
been gathered.
In related incidents, the
federation executive changed locks
on the doors of the photo and
editor's offices of The Chevron,
leaving the paper's staff occupying
the larger central office on Friday.
The staff is operating without
several pieces of equipment in-
Carleton University pres
opposes differential fees
OTTAWA -- The number of
international students in Canada is
not sufficiently disturbing" to
warrant differential fees or quotas
for those attending post-secondary
institutions, according to Carleton
University's administration
"Differential fees is one of the
worst ways of applying a policy of
some restraint," Michael Oliver
told a workshop at the joint conference of World University Services Canada and the Canadian
Bureau for International
He said deciding how visa
student enrolment should be
limited is "begging the question"
because there is a lack of information suggesting those
students are a burden on the
economy or that they prevent
Canadians from attending school.
The Ontario government's
decision to impose differential fees
in January "comes from a climate
of misinformation,''  Oliver said.
"I think the governments are
responding in a very peculiar way
to what they perceive the public
thinks," he said.
The Carleton president and
member of a CBIE task force
studying third world students, said
America is
United States has become "a
hamburger society," according to
the Wall Street Journal.
The average American is now
consuming 50 pounds of hamburger a year, the Journal says, up
from a mere 20 pounds of ground
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the increasing visibility of international students has sparked
an "emotional reaction" from the
Canadians are not used "to
people who look differently and
talk differently" and are
frightened by those "whose race
may be perceived as a threat."
Oliver said the costs of univer
sity would remain the same
without international students and
that government should "balance
the costs with the benefits" of visa
students participating in Canada's
educational community.
He also stressed the need for
governments to base policy for
visa students on adequate information.
eluding five cameras seized by
Roberts Nov. 16. The following
day, an office typewriter was
impounded by campus security as
evidence after a scuffle between
Roberts and Chevron staff
following an attempt by Roberts to
remove the machine.
The federation executive has
also cut off The Chevron's phones.
At a meeting Sunday before the
rock-throwing, council ratified a
motion instructing the president
and vice-president "to take those
steps necessary for the federation
to enjoy full and unencumbered
access to and use of the space and
facilities in its offices, especially
room 140 of the campus centre"
(where The Chevron office is
The motion passed 8-7 after
council speaker Bob White voted to
break a 7-7 deadlock. Both recalled
councillors voted in favor of the
Council also voted 8-6 to approve
an 'interim publication" and pay
its editor a salary.
The first edition, which appeared
Monday, was called "the real
Four councillors are challenging
the legality of the council meeting
on grounds that Roberts allowed
recalled councillors Klingender
and Don Orth to vote.
They are calling for Roberts'
resignation on the same grounds.
The Waterloo federation closed
The Chevron Sept. 30, reversing a
decision four days earlier when
council overturned its executive's
attempt to lock the staff out of the
paper's offices.
Council also dissolved two paid
positions on the staff — production
manager and news editor — effectively firing Neil Docherty and
Henry Hess respectively.
The executive charged the paper
was taken over by a campus
political group, the Anti-
Imperialist Alliance, after the
former editor-in-chief resigned,
citing political pressure from other
Chevron staff as his reason.
The council approved the closure
after a special issue of The
Chevron denounced the federation
executive. Staff deny the charges
of an AIA takeover, and say the
federation has never produced
proof for its allegations.
They continue to publish The
Free Chevron, and demand the
reinstatement of the fired staff and
funding for the paper.
Guelph pres, contests referendum
GUELPH (CUP) — The student
president at the University of
Guelph is contesting the results of
a referendum in which students
voted by a large majority to reject
membership in the National Union
of Students.
Peter Meisenheimer, central
students' association president,
accused the leaders of an anti-NUS
campaign of electoral
irregularities during the
referendum last week in which
students voted 2,200 to 400 against
NUS membership.
Meisenheimer and other
councillors are calling for a new
referendum, charging that an anti-
NUS "committee for concern"
violated voting procedures by:
• covering pro-NUS wall posters
with anti-NUS posters;
• affixing "vote no" stickers to
several ballot boxes, and
• distributing anti-NUS
literature' after polling began.
The referendum followed weeks
of campaigning by pro and anti-
NUS groups in which both
publicized their views in leaflets,
posters and letters published in the
student newspaper.
The pro-NUS campaign, supported by Meisenheimer and other
councillors, stressed the national
union's   activities   dealing   with
student unemployment, tuition
hikes and wage and price controls
and gave general information
about the 180,000-member
organization, according to NUS
field worker Gavin Anderson.
The anti-NUS campaign consisted of posters, "vote no"
stickers and a leaflet accusing the
organization of "Marxist thought"
because of its promotion of the
Kraft Foods boycott — "issues of
three and four years ago," according to Anderson, who said the
anti-campaign gave incorrect
information about NUS.
The committee for concern
campaign also attacked the
organization for its support of the
Oct. 14 national day of protest said
Opposition to NUS membership
came mainly from Guelph
agriculture students, said Anderson, noting their students'
council voted against supporting
the national union before the
referendum  and expressed  their
objections to NUS in letters to the
campus paper.
Another letter from the campus
young Progressive Conservatives
club denied accusations the
"concern" group was YPC-led, but
urged its members and supporters
to vote against NUS membership.
YPC members led a campaign
urging students to vote against
continued membership in the
Ontario Federation of Students at
the University of Western Ontario
in an October referendum.
Teacher gets legal grass
WASHINGTON (ZNS-CUP) — In a landmark
decision the federal government has decided to
supply about five marijuana joints a day to a young
school teacher who claims he needs the pot to save his
Robert Randall of Washington, D.C, has been
informed he can now drop by the offices of the
national institute of drug abuses once a week to pick
up his personal allotment of high-quality government-grown weed.
The government's decision comes as a' result of
Randall's arrest on pot charges last year. Instead of
simply pleading guilty to possessing marijuana,
Randall stated he was blind in one eye and rapidly
losing sight in the other as a result of the eye disease,
He added that pot smoking relieved the symptoms
of the disease, and produced medical studies and
doctors' statements to back up his claim.
The 28-year-old teacher claimed that the government — in denying him marijuana — was preventing
him from exercising what he called his "constitutional right to sight."
This week, the government relented. The drug
institute says that under a special experimental
program, Randall will be entitled to weekly allotments of pot grown at the government's marijuana
plantation in Mississippi.
However, a criminal complaint against Randall in
the courts is still pending.
Beefeater Dry Gin, distilled and bottled in London, England,
retains its fine taste even in mixes.


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