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The Ubyssey Oct 24, 1978

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Array Tuning fades on TV library
A $100,000 investment might be
lost because of mismanagement'at
UBC's audio-visual library, library
designer Charlie Keast charged
Keast said the library, which is
operated by UBC's Centre for
Human Settlements, is not making
a meaningful contribution to the
Keast is suing the centre for
wrongful dismissal. He said his
position was terminated by centre
director Peter Oberlander last
Keats designed the library and
supervised its construction. He
said Oberlander was unrealistic in
putting the library in the instructional resources centre because
the lease on its location is only for
18 months.
"They (the centre for Human
Settlements) spent close to $100,000
on building the library in IRC when
they knew it was only a temporary
location," he said. "The facility
was never given a chance."
The library was built in May,
Keast said the library will not be
as well-equipped in a new location.
"It would be very interesting to
compare what exists now to what
will be there after (the move). All I
know is they're not reconstructing
the facilities."
The library will have to move
sometime in the next few months,
said Keast.
"Obviously Oberlander did not
take seriously the fact that the lease
would be up in 18 months."
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Keast said the library and the
Centre for Human Settlement are
run to serve the interests of
Oberlander, who Keast called an
'' academic j et-setter.''
"He (Oberlander) organizes
conferences and invites professors
from all over the world to discuss
subjects on which they all have
irreversable opinions," said Keast.
"They just talk a lot and no one
benefits from it, including the
Keast criticized the location of
the library for being too far ffom
the people in the social sciences who
use it most. He said if the library
was moved it would still be in the
same general area.
Oberlander said the library wai)
never intended to stay in its present
first step, the university
space  to   start   it   (the
"As a
gave us
He added the facility is used
extensively by faculty and student!
and his major concern was to keep
on adding to it.
Napalm hits
Oxfam camp
OTTAWA (CUP) — Hundreds
of unarmed Zimbabwean civilians,
and not guerrillas, were slaughtered
by Rhodesian forces Thursday,
according to United Nations officials.
The UN high commission for
refugees says 226 Zimbabwean
refugees were killed and 629 were
injured when Rhodesian helicopters
and jet fighters strafed and dropped
napalm on a resettlement camp just
outside of Lisaka, the capital of
The camp was operated jointly
by the United Nations, the International Red Cross, Oxfam-
Canada and the Zimbabwe
(Rhodesia) African Peoples Union
The white supremacist government of Rhodesia said the camp
was used to train guerillas. They
also claim to have killed 1,500
"There  were  2,248   people   at
freedom camp, including old
people, recently-arrived young;
boys, and many sick, handicapped,
and blind Zimbabweans who are
not part of ZAPU's army," said
ZAPU leader Joshua Nkomo, the
day after the attack.
Brian Tomlinson, national
secretary of Oxfam-Canada, said
the camp housed schools, clinics,
dormitories, carpentry workshops,
and an agricultural program funded
by Oxfam, the Red Cross, and the
UN. The projects were set up to
provide a self-sufficient base for the:
large number of Zimbabwear.
refugees fleeing Ian Smith's regime,
he said.
UN official Guy Ouellet, who
visited the camp in August, said ii:
housed mainly boys between 5 and
18 years of age. It was designed to
house 8,000 students, but was only
partially filled because water and
sanitation facilities had not been
completed, he said.
'TAs need union
to battle admin'
—peter menyasz photo
IT'S ALL SYSTEMS GO for bionic reporter Julie Wheelwright as space-age contraption simultaneously captures
condition of heart, lungs, and muscles in fitness test in Aquatic Centre basement. Donna Mackenzie, physical
education 3, controls the wizardry, awaiting Wheelwright's impending collapse. Subject passed test. See story
Teaching assistants at UBC need
to be unionized to protect themselves against the university administration's discriminatory
policies, David Fuller, president of
the association of teaching
assistants, said Monday.
' "There has been a very
noticeable swing in the feelings of
people," he said. "Those who were
undecided before are now saying
yes, we have to be unionized to
successfully protect wages and
working conditions."
He said the administration told
the ATA that certain major items in
the university budget were- fixed by
contract, such as faculty salaries
and university staff salaries. But
then the administration said
teaching assistants are flexible
items, like stationary, he added.
"The result of this (flexible
salaries) is that TAs' salaries have
fallen below the cost of living for
the past three years. We are sort of
Fitness centre tests bulging midriffs
If you have a sneaking suspicion that you
are overweight and out of shape, you're
probably right and in the same condition as 80
per cent of UBC students.
I found an excellent way of uncovering the
truth about the evil that lurks around my
midriff by taking the fitness test conducted by
the UBC department of physical education.
The test gives a functional fitness appraisal
of the heart, lungs, respiratory muscles, body
composition, muscular strength, flexibility
and endurance. The entire test takes about an
hour and a half, costs $15 for students and is
followed by a prescription on how to get in
"It's lots of fun here. There's nothing like
this centre in North America, let alone
Canada," says fitness research assistant Doug
The fitness center is located in the basement
of the aquatic center and contains a gleaming
collection of some of Canada's most modern
and accurate testing equipment. The object of
the test is to motivate people to become
physically fit and the results remain confidential.
Edward   Rhodes,   director  of the   fitness
center, explains that many people do not want
to find out they are in poor physical condition.
But most people who take the test are happy
with their results, he adds.
The long road to physical fitness should not
be something painful or unpleasant, according
to Rhodes.
"Fitness should be a by-product of your
life. You shouldn't have to fight it all the time.
You should enjoy physical activity," he says.
Rhodes explains that 80 per cent of the UBC
population is unable to reach the recommended fitness requirements.
See page 11: ICE-TONGS
categorized with paper clips."
A 1973 university policy on TA;>
states there should be a certain
minimum wage for TAs and that
after 1973 wages should be kept in
line with the salaries of junior
faculty, Fuller said.
"But we have statistical proof
that all TAs in art departments ar;
being paid way below the minimum
and most forestry and agriculture
TAs are underpaid."
Graduate students senator Dave
Smith said when the administration
discovered junior faculty members
had received wage increases of
more than 60 per cent while TAs
salaries had only increased by about
40 per cent, the administration
decided to change the policy instead
of raising TAs salaries.
Fuller said he agreed the
university is reluctant to change
policies because of the cost involved
in raising TAs salaries.
"I guess they are cutting corners
on paper clips and TAs," he said.
Smith said the graduate students
association submitted a proposal
for a new policy for TAs in
December, but has heard no
response from the administration.
"We were told at a meeting
during the summer that the administration was working hard to
change the policy but we certainly
haven't been told of any changes,"
he said. "The administration has
showed no desire to see the policy
It is largely because of unfair
wages paid to TAs that the GSA
decided to allocate $1,000 to the
association of TAs for the
possibility of forming a union, said
See page 8: UBC Page 2
Tuesday, October 24, 1978
It Sounds
At That Speed, The 309 Pages Come Across
With More Impact Than The Movie.
In Living Blood, You Might Say.
You can do it. too. So far almost I,OOO.OOO people have done it.
People who have different jobs, different IQs, different interests,
different educations have completed the course. Our graduates are
people from all walks of life. These people have all taken a course
developed by Evelyn Woo'd, a prominent educator. Practically all of
them at least tripled their reading speed with equal or better comprehension. Most have increased it even more.
Think for a moment what that means. All of them—even the
slowest—now read an average novel in less than'two hours. They
read an entire issue of Time or Newsweek in 35 minutes. They don't
skip or skim. They read every word. They use no machines. Instead,
they let the material they're reading determine how fast they read.
And mark this well: they actually understand more, remember
more, and enjoy more than when they read slowly. That's right!
They understand more. They remember more. They enjoy more.
You can do the same thing—the place to learn more about it is at a
free speed reading lesson.
This is the same course President Kennedy had his Joint Chiefs of
Staff take. The same one Senators and Congressmen have taken.
Come to a free Speed Reading Lesson and find out. It is free to
you and you will leave with a better understanding of why it works.
Plan to attend a free Speed Reading Lesson and learn that it is
possible to read 3-4-5 times faster, with  better comprehension.
You'll increase your reading speed
 50 to 100% on the spot!
Today & Tomorrow
5:30 p.m. or 8:00 p.m.
Student Union Building
ROOM 205
EVELYN WOOD READING DYNAMICS Tuesday, October 24,  1978
Pag* 3
Students support seal bashing
The National Union of Students'
recent decision to support
Newfoundland's annual seal hunt
for its major contribution to
hunters' income is completely false
in its reasoning, a spokeswoman for
the Vancouver-based Greenpeace
Foundation said Monday.
"The top amount a sealer would
be able to make in a season would
be $2,000. They only get about $4
per pelt," said ecologist Julie
She added only two per cent of
the hunters make over $1,000 in a
"They would have to work night
and day to make $2,000," she said.
A motion was passed at the
National Union of Student's
conference Oct. 15 to support the
continuation of the seal hunt in
Newfoundland and Labrador,
because it is an important part of
the hunter's annual income.
Kate Andrew, Alma Mater
Society external affairs officer, said
Canadians do not need seals
because they are an unnecessary
"Seal pups are awfully cute and
adorable and it's easy for anyone to
fall for them. If they were giant sea
slugs you wouldn't get the public
support," she said.
Andrew added the harvest of seal
pelts is an important part of a
Newfoundlander's income.
McMaster said the seals are in
danger of extinction because the
annual seal slaughter far exceeds
the current 180,000 quota set by the
federal government.
"You'd be very lucky to see a
monk seal now. It's when the big
monopolies come in that you start
to have trouble," she said.
But Andrew said NUS decided
the seal hunt assisted the ecological
"NUS felt they should be behind
this for humane reasons. The hunt
is an important way of maintaining
the ecological balance. However, it
B.C. Tel unafraid
of free enterprise
A new Vancouver-circulated
directory which boasts "free enterprise in action" is causing no
great alarm for the well-established
Yellow Pages.
"We don't feel in the least bit
threatened. We've never been
worried about the competition,"
Rex Scofield, general manager of
Dominion Directory Co. Ltd. said
But Scofield admitted that the
new directory, published by
Seaboard   Publishing,   has   lower
Funds wake
Asian Centre
After a three-year construction
hibernation it appears that UBC's
Asian Centre may finally be
The university should be getting
approval this week for a $3.7
million grant to finish construction
of the centre, David Freeman,
chairman of the Universities
Council of B.C.'s capital committee, said Sunday.
A decision on funding, which
would come from the education
ministry, should be announced this
week, he said.
"I'd be very surprised if there
was any problem (getting the
funds)," Freeman said. "I don't
see any reason why it shouldn't be
automatically approved."
Freeman said the council passed
on to the ministry last week a
recommendation that funding be
given for the Asian Centre. The
$3.7 million would come out of
money budgeted under a five-year
plan for capital expenditure
projects for B.C. universities, he
Financing problems have plagued
the centre since construction funds
ran out in 1975. The centre was
originally conceived in 1970 as a
symbol of co-operation in relations
between Asia and Canada.
The roof structure, which was
part of the Sanyo Corporation's
pavilion at the 1970 world exposition in Osaka, Japan, was
donated by Sanyo to UBC in honor
of B.C.'s centennial celebrations
marking the province's entry into
rates than Dominion, which
publishes the B.C. Tel yellow
Seaboard Publishing general
manager Andro Malo called
Dominion's rates outrageous.
"I'm not recommending that
every businessman cancel their ad
out of the Yellow Pages and
publish in ours," he said. "I'm just
offering an alternative."
He estimated his new telephone
directory was up to nine times less
expensive than Scofield's advertisements.
Scofield said Dominion's higher
rates are justified because the
conventional Yellow Pages are
much more effective than
"We know we reach everyone
with a telephone," he said.
Malo said Dominion Directory
Co. never lets its customers see their
advertisement before they are
published, but Seaboard gives a
proof of every advertisement to the
customer for approval before
Malo added he worked for
Dominion Directory for seven years
and so has a good knowledge of
their business. Many of Dominion's
Yellow Page salesmen have quit
and come to work for Seaboard, he
"I'm glad they're (Dominion)
underestimating me," he said. "It
gives me an edge."
Seaboard Publishing is a Bur-
naby-based company operating
under the name Yellow Directories
in Alberta, Saskatchewan,
Manitoba and Quebec. Yellow
Pages, similar to the B.C. Tel
directory, are also offered in these
Malo said Seaboard directories,
which are delivered by United
Flyer, are reaching just as many
people as Dominion's are.
"We have run a survey as to
where the directory is being
received and we're very satisfied
with the results," he said.
"The confusion about our effectiveness arises from the numbers
involved in distribution. We will
distribute about 475,000 books,
while Dominion distributes about
one million.
"But half of their (Dominion's)
books are sitting in very large
offices not being used.
"We're basically offering
ourselves as an alternative to the
(telephone company's) Yellow
Pages," he said.
is not the most important issue
NUS has ever faced," she said.
McMaster said the hunt continues because it is a traditional
practice. The seals are in danger of
extinction because very few are
allowed to grow to maturity, she
"They kill pups from four to
eight days old. After that age they
begin to develop black spots oh
their pelts and the price of them
drops. They are sold as luxury items
in Europe."
McMaster said people are all part
of a natural cycle, and added if we
interfere with the cycle too much we
are going to make a lot of trouble
for ouselves in the future.
"We'd like a moratorium on the
seal hunt until we can assess the
facts on the hunt. We have a great
deal of public support behind us,"
she said.
People protesting the seal hunt
are currently not allowed on the ice
floes without special permission
from the federal department of
fisheries, ensuring that protestors
will not interfere with the seal
hunters, or swilers.
Andrew said the right for seal
hunters to kill baby seals is a matter
of life and death.
"I'd prefer to see a cod or a baby
seal die, cute as they are, rather
than a (human) baby. I support the
humans in this."
She said killing seals maintains
the proper balance of fish to seals in
—peter menyasz photo
NOT LIKE THEY USED TO. they don't build 'em, do they. Tree was just driving along when it went out of control, thrusting self into parked vehicle. Fortunately tree was not damaged and owner plans to keep car as small
momento of humorous incident. Gage resident Donald Boyd is owned by car, which was brushed by falling shrub
during brisk winds Friday afternoon.
'Give AMS tune-up, not cash"
The UBC Alma Mater Society is not running on
empty but needs a tune-up and a new design, according to engineering undergraduate society president
Brian Short.
Short said he will encourage the EUS not to support the upcoming AMS fee referendum at an EUS
meeting today, because AMS spending priorities do
not reflect student interests.
"I think it's time the AMS realized that at least the
engineering students aren't happy with them," he
But AMS financial director Glen Wong said the executive is still going to have certain fixed expenditures regardless of its priorities. These expenditures
are currently being paid by service cuts, he said.
"I don't know how to get through to Brian (Short)
and explain to him that if we keep cutting and cutting
until there's no more AMS, they're still going to have
fixed costs," he said.
Students will vote today until Friday whether to accept a $2 AMS fee referendum increase. The AMS
executive has said it needs the additional funding to
prevent cutbacks in student services.
If Short or the EUS object to the referendum as
proposed they should have voiced their discontent
while the issue was being discussed at the student
representative assembly meeting last week, said AMS
president Paul Sandhu.
"As a member of council anybody who feels that
the referendum should have been organized differently should have brought it up at SRA," he said.
"They (the EUS and Short) didn't do that."
Short said it was his own mistake he did not bring
up his objections at the SRA meeting.
He added he objects to the referendum being
presented as a blanket $2 increase. The expenditures
should be itemized and voted on separately, he said,
as they were in the AMS fee referendum two years
ago. The 1976 referendum was defeated.
The referendum promises a lot of programs, but
the money it generates will actually go into AMS
general revenue, said Short. He said there are no
guarantees the referendum money will actually go in-
to the programs the AMS says it will. J Page 4
Tuesday, October 24,  1978
A minor controversy has raged on in our letters sections
over the type of ads which we should or should not print. One
particularly insistent letter-writer has argued that the paper
should stop running advertisements for the RCMP, the Bank
of Montreal and others.
The consensus among the other letter-writers is that censorship of particular advertisers constitutes a form of censorship and interferes with freedom of speech.
While the freedom of expression point is well taken and
one of the principal reasons why we run ads from organizations we may disagree with, there are more fundamental
reasons. One of them is money. We need it to be able to
publish and express the points we think should be made.
However much we may wish to, we cannot selectively cut
ads by organizations we disagree with without suffering
financially, a burden which would be paid for by the Alma
Mater Society, our publishers.
The second point is that one of the organizations referred
to as worthy of censorship is the RCMP.
It is doubtful in the extreme that ignoring or censoring the
RCMP will make the problem go away. Whether we like it or
not, police forces will always be with us — they are a part of
our society. By ostracizing them and putting the RCMP at
arms length we run the risk of widening the gulf between the
police force and the people they serve.
Ostracizing and casting the RCMP away from the rest of
society like lepers will ensure that the lowest elements of
society will apply to join the force.
Our third point is that we believe UBC students are a
discriminating readership and are capable of judging for
themselves the worth of an organization; without this paper
excercising a form of censorship over what they can read.
To censor certain ads is to insult our readers by implying
that they are incapable of making their own decisions.
Victims used
The recent decision of the National Union of Students to
support the annual baby seal hunt in Newfoundland makes
the fundamental error of identifying the issue as between
seals and their hunters. Both are the victims. Few Newfoundland sealers have much choice of occupation due to the
chronic unemployment situation there.
No doubt most sealers would prefer a job which did not require them to go on freezing, hazardous ice floes and bash
animal heads in. They have few choices.
By the same token environmentalists are right in their quest
to save a species from extinction. The only permanent solution to the problem will be to provide alternative means of
livelihood for sealers. The federal government enters the picture here, but instead of providing the means for economic
solution, it sides with one of the victims — the hunters.
The culprits in this issue are not the hunters or environmentalists (depending on your persuasion). The culprits are the
federal and provincial governments for their dismally poor
management of the Newfoundland economy.
The National Union of Students fell into the trap of supporting one of the victims (again the hunters) instead of supporting some kind of action which will bring a more long-term
In the course of supporting their untenable position they
search for arguments, any arguments which justify their
perspective. The most ridiculous statement justifying the annual harvest is that it is done to preserve the ecological
balance in the area. One wonders how the earth survived for
the billions of years it did before Man entered the scene.
OCTOBER 24, 1978
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the
university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of
B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the
AMS or the university administration. Member, Canadian
University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in
room 241K of the Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Editor: Mike Bocking
The office glowed with nostalgia as the Ubyssey's sub-teen staffers described the wonders
of the movie they had just seen, Clockwork Orange. Heather Conn, Torn Hawthorn, and Geof
and Julie Wheelwright marched about the newsroom kicking the crap out of bewildered older
staffers. "Shit, that smarts!" yelled Steve Howard and Mike Bocking as the unruly mob
removed their cataracts with broken beer bottles. "Will you cut it out, we're trying to eat,"
grumbled Paul Wilson and Don Mclntyre. In a classical case of misunderstandilng, the
viscious gang of semi-literates seized the terrified Peter Menyasz and, Bill Tieleman and
removed their spleens. Fran McLean and Vicki Booth hid in the darkroom in an attempt to
escape from the madness, but it was to no avail. Four switchblades gleamed in the darkness
and the heads of Chris Bocking, Kevin McGee, and Verne McDonald thumped on the floor in
front of the panic-stricken ladies. "Power to the pre-pubescents!" shouted Glen Schaefer,
and they left the vultures to do the rest.
AS   CAL.VES OR Cop . . . ?
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'Africa coverage slanted9
The Ubyssey's slanted coverage
of South Africa is shockingly deficient. Who would believe that articles such as Hexham's "Rhodesian blacks 'need our support' "
(Oct. 6) and Wallace's "West exploits black workers" (Oct. 19)
would be published, and as serious
arguments? Sad it is that anti-
government opinions are in
For years Rhodesian and South
African democratic governments
have striven to better education, improve health and in general, make
their countries a better place to live.
Their present superior standard of
living when compared to other
African nations is a living testament
to their success.
In contrast, look at the disastrous
consequences of black rule in other
states. Nigeria collapsed into
bloody civil war after British administration was ended in favor of
black rule. Idi Amin's Uganda remains an economic wasteland.
Zaire   fails   to   prevent   rampant
Mom, what
was grass?
More pavement.
Wow. It is as if it is growing.
Someone at UBC is fixed with the
idea of covering any and every trail
that develops across existing
grasslands. I like to walk on grass. I
know I am not alone in simple
pleasure as paths cross many of the
un-man-covered surfaces. I have
seen many unobtrusive trails hard-
topped, cemented and asphalted in
the time I have been here.
Even today cement is going down
on what used to be one of the finest
lawns on campus. A new walk is being poured on main mall outside of
Scarfe. At this rate, by the time my
kids get here, there will have to be
someone to explain what grass was.
Vera Staples
commerce 4
slaughter of its citizens in recent
upheavals; totally black rule is not
good for southern Africa and clearly the "white" democratic governments offer a superior, enhanced
How narrow-minded and stupid
it is for supposedly intelligent
academics to utter public denouncements     and     abusive
statements about "white" governments that have given their people
so much, especially considering
how regressive alternative "black"
governments are. Worse yet that
The Ubyssey publishes such in-
vogue trash as news.
R. R. Greech
arts 2
'Support strikers9
Should students support the
postal strike? We feel that there are
a number of reasons why students
have a real interest in supporting
the Canadian Union of Postal
CUPW is locked in one of
Canada's most militant strikes in recent years. More than 20,000
workers are taking Trudeau's
government head on. They have
defied federal back to work legislation and have vowed to stand
against the courts' injunctions. In
fact, CUPW is leading the fight
against the government's recent
policies of widespread cutbacks and
attacks on hard-won rights, aimed
at making working people, the
unemployed, women, young people, minorities and immigrants pay
for capitalism's crisis.
At the present time, students too
are facing severe cutbacks. The
federal govr—iment has slashed the
funds it contributes to provincial
education programs. So students in
B.C. and the rest of Canada are faced with cutbacks at schools, colleges and universities.
We students and the CUPW are
facing a common enemy in the
Trudeau government. It's only
logical that we support each other
in our fight against Trudeau and his
Since the AIB has been lifted,
Trudeau has come out with new
measures to keep the capitalists'
profits up. The government is using
the public sector workers as an example — leading the way for the
private sector by holding wages
below six per cent, eliminating cost
of living allowance clauses, undermining job security and even taking
away the right to strike and bargain
as a union. Trudeau is out to break
CUPW. A 10 per cent wage settlement and control over future
technological change for CUPW
could set the basis for other contracts — the capitalists wouldn't be
too pleased for they couldn't make
the same rate of profit.
Students along with public and
private sector workers must take up
independent political actions to
block the government and the
capitalists' attacks. We mustn't be
fooled by bourgeois parties like the
NDP, which once again, is selling
out the workers. Bill King, former
NDP labor minister in B.C., immediately called CUPW to "go
back to work," to give in to the attacks.
We students must actively
organize support for CUPW. We
can pass support motions in various
student societies and clubs. We can
actively organize ourselves to go
down to their picket lines. Court injunctions against the union will be
brought down soon. Mass pickets
are needed especially this Wednesday at 8 a.m., 3 p.m. and 10 p.m. at
the main post office, Georgia andc
Sheila Maxwell Tuesday, October 24,  1978
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Fee referendum fuels bureaucracy
Beginning today, the Alma Mater
Society is asking us to cough up
another $2 per year by holding a
referendum to increase our student
activity fees. At stake, they claim, if
you don't vote "yes," is the
prospect of reduced services, no
concerts in the gym, no intramural
sports and $1.10 for a bottle of
your favorite in the Pit.
The argument goes that there has
been no fee increase since 1947, and
that with inflation eating away at
their purchasing power they are
simply finding it impossible to
continue in the manner to which we
have become accustomed.
The $2 involved is itself no big
thing, but I think the AMS should
be worried that students have, in
fact, become accustomed to a
manner of operation which we do
not agree with and will not be
willing to continue to provide
financial support for.
It is simply not true that there has
been no fee increase since 1947.
The students of this university had
approved fee increases to cover,
among other things, the construction of the Winter Sports
Complex, the new Aquatic Centre
the Student Union Building and
extra-mural athletics. These were
specific projects which were
deemed worthy of support and we
enjoy today the results of the
The question of fueling an incompetent, wasteful, mismanaged
and for the most part, non-
representative bureaucracy, is
something else again.
Before even considering support,
I think the AMS owes us an explanation of the following:
1)— On gross sales of $482,500,
while paying no rent, maintenance,
administration or other usual costs,
how does the Pit, which has nearly
capacity crowds every night, make
only $30,000 per year? Why are
there so many more staff working
there than in any other bar in
town? Why did the Pit manager,
after battling with the stupidity of
student politicos for three years,
quit this year in desperation?
2) — With short-term and long-
term investment assets of $462,000,
why did the AMS only manage to
realize an investment income of
$32,000, or seven per cent last year?
3) — Why, for the past three
years has the AMS shunned big-
name gym concerts on which it
made in excess of $1000 each as an
agent, in favor of a "programs
committee" which spends $8000
per year to bring to UBC speakers
on such topics of narrow appeal as
the plight of Namibia, or the
struggle of oppressed workers in
4) — Why should intramurals, in
which over 10,000 of our
representatives' constituents participate annually suffer at all? We
will be paying this year, according
to the recently approved AMS
budget, $5000 for a Womens'
Centre, $8000 for "special
projects," which means placards,
posters, and revolutionary leaflets,
$14,800 for salaries for politicos
who hire themselves during the
summer and to organize the
"special projects," and $9000 for
political AMS committees. Lets get
our priorities straight here.
5) — Why does The Ubyssey pay
$6000 in Canadian University Press,
fees, when all we ever see under the
CUP heading are stories about
Chile, South Africa, multinational
imperialism and other close-to-
home topics? Further, why can The
Ubyssey afford the luxury oi'
running space-consuming "comic"
strips such as Onan the barbarian,
when that space is worth the
equivalent of thousands of dollar:;
in needed ad revenues at $6.72 per
column inch?
Do not be intimidated by claims
that the sky will fall without your
support. I would be willing to pay
any amount to finance specific
projects such as intramurals, but I
think we would be fools to imagine
that another $2 per year will find its
way into anything but power-
wielding special interest groups,
and the support of an inept
government that has proven to be
neither by the people nor for them.
Kirk Cazn
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Newspaper raves
This is my first year here at UBC,
so I am not too familiar with the
ranting and raving that goes on in
this "student" newspaper out here.
However, I must take pen in hand
to protest your editorial condemning arts dean Robert Will.
Dean Will is a fine and honorable
man, and despite his admittedly
squeaky way of addressing people,
does a lot more good on campus
than you bunch of turkeys do. How
dare you. What gives you the right
to cut a man to ribbons in public? I
know that dean Will would have
responded to your editorial except
for the fact that he is so timid, not a
bad quality to try to emulate.
I saw in the issue before the first
one that you are also cutting down
the board of governors for appointing Alan Eyre to the board,
snickering in your oh-so-snide way
"Anyone for shares in UBC Co.
I suppose you would like to see
more bleeding heart liberals on the
board, eh? Shit, if it were left up to
wimps 'ike you guys who to put on
the board, we'd be in a lot more
trouble than we already are.
Don't you know that the free
enterprise system is the only way
this country can get out of the mess
it's in?
We should abolish welfare,
unemployment insurance and all
those grants Trudeau and his
cohorts are giving away to whoever
wants them.
Heck, we should do away with
government altogether, except for a
few people to administer the police
and fire departments. It has been
proven that private enterprise can
do anything the government is
presently doing better, and cheaper.
So cut the crap, and let's hear it for
the Canadian version of
Proposition 13.
Elliot Prinshaw
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While glancing through an old
copy of 'New Internationalist'
magazine I came across an
astonishing statement: Even though
the rate of population growth in the
Third World is more than twice as
fast as in the rich world, the current
population increase of the
developed world puts about eight
times as much pressure on world
resources as current population
increase in the poor world. Each
new member of the developed
world will enjoy 20 times the income of each new member of the
poor world and will cost our planet
30 times as many resources to feed.
Also, I have seen around campus
these days some kind of theme of
South Africa and what's happening
over there. What is South Africa
symbolic of in terms of what New
Internationalist has to say?
Well for one, I can no longer say
that "all this Third World bullshit
has nothing to do with me, why
don't we leave them alone to deal
with their own problems?" Because
in light of the overconsumption
that I am involved in as a member
of this society, I am part of their
problem. So by getting involved in
some apparently isolated issue like
South Africa, I am ultimately
investigating my own participation
in the world.
After all that bleeding heart
liberal "I'm going to go over there
to help those poor black people," I
will find myself staring into a
mirror. No wonder it's easy to close
my eyes and let them deal with
'their' problem. Otherwise I'm
going to have to come up with some
kind of justification of why I, as a
member of the First  World,  am
entitled to 20 times the income o:r
someone in the Third World.
Unfortunately the only criteria tha:
I can come up with is based on
things like skin color, oir
educational status.
Stuart Lyster
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For fifteen years Fred Halstead worked against the
war in Vietnam.   He started marching with a few dozen
in the early sixties and helped build the movement up to
demonstrations of over a million by 1970.     He worked
with Jerry Rubin and Dave Dillinger on the October 1967
Pentagon demonstrations.
He was in charge of logistics for the November 1969
Washington march of 750,000 against the war.   Halstead
has recently written "Out Now! - a participant's account
of the American movement against the Vietnam War"
published by Monad Press, detailing the politics of the
He was interviewed by Canadian University Press
in August at the Active Workers and Socialists
Educational Conference in Oberlin, Ohio.
CUP: I suppose one of the amazing
things about the anti-war movement was the
seemingly overwhelming odds you were
against when the movement began. Most
people at first were not against the war. I
wonder if you could talk about the early
Halstead: Initially, it was more that the
American people didn't know anything
about it. That is, they trusted the government. It was only a tiny handful that it had
even occurred to that they should oppose it.
So at first we were very isolated and it was
almost a case of making the record, for your
own soul or something.
The government would do whatever it
goddamn well wanted and then just cover it
up. But, there were ways that you could tell,
read between the lines or the foreign press or
the American radical press, which put
together didn't amount to much.
The main thing was the weight of the anti-
communist hysteria — and it was a hysteria
— if somebody was labelled 'Communist',
he was labelled out of the human race. Even
within the old peace movement. Polemics
would break out in the peace movement with
people asking 'How can we do this? We're a
peace movement that doesn't try to stop a
But, then the war itself became more of an
issue. The first thing that signalled to large
numbers of people was the Buddhist
demonstrations against the Catholic regime's
religious persecution. At that time, Diem,
who was the premier, persecuted people who
weren't of his religion. Some of the Buddhist
monks actually burned themselves to death
in these demonstrations.
That was widely reported and it shocked a
lot of people, they asked 'just what is going
on here?'. But even then, there were no
demonstrations in the United States, except
maybe a handful — a dozen people making
the record.
But, then Madame Nhu, the wife of one of
the Vietnamese government officials, made a
trip to the U.S., and she referred to these
demonstrations as 'barbeques'. That's when
demonstrations of some size began. When
within the old peace movement, which was
protesting nuclear testing at the time, the
question of the Vietnam war was not allowed
to be raised. Individual small radical groups
would raise the question, but never the whole
peace movement.
CUP: So even the peace movement thought it
natural  that  the   U.S.   should   wage   war
against 'communism'.
Halstead: Right, the thing didn't break out
on the streets at all. It began to break out
the beautiful
she would appear at a university, a
demonstration would be there to meet her,
sometimes quite large — 300 to 400 people.
CUP: Your book goes into how a certain
youth wing of the old socialist movement
began to become more radical under the
pressure of events and took a leading role in
building of the early anti-war movement.
Could you talk about the role of this group?
Halstead: well, they did it once, just once,
but    that    was    enough    to    make    the
breakthrough. It had a background to it.
SDS (Students for Democratic Society) was
at the time a very 'acceptable' social
democratic formation, something like the
youth group of your New Democratic party.
SDS was the youth group of the League for
Industrial Democracy, which was funded by
some moderate unions.
Well, the youth began to become sensitive
to some of the things the adults were not
sensitive to. One of these was the war in
Vietnam, most of the youth were opposed to
it and another was the Southern rights
struggle. SDS wanted to'work with the youth
group of the major civil rights organization
in the south, which was called the Student
Nonviolent Co-ordinating Committee.
They wanted to become a Northern
support group for SNCC. Well, SNCC had
broken with anti-communism, because in the
south all you had to do was say you were
against segregation and you were labelled a
Now, the League for Industrial
Democracy demanded exclusion of communists, which made it difficult for SDS to
work with SNCC. So SDS wanted to make a
differentiation from LID and it just hap-
'no that's wrong, we have to try to stop this
war'. Not only that, but if you're going to
build a radical constituency, you better build
it on issues which are current now.
We proceeded to call for a conference
which would develop a 'national coordinating committee against the war in
Vietnam'. This was established.
CUP: In bringing together all these anti-war
elements, you had to recognize that they did
so for different reasons. Some were just
pacifists, some were in favor of the National
Liberation Front winning, sonie didn't want
their sons killed, some wanted detente. There
must have been all sorts of strategies put
forward for ending the war. Could you
discuss some of these?
Halstead: Well in the beginning, there wasn't
much tactical dispute, because we were so
small. People more or less agreed on two
main tactics. One was the mass demonstration, just to get some visibility that
people were opposed to the war. The other
was the teach-in.
The first big teach-in was at the University
of Michigan around the time of the April '65
march. It almost transformed the nature of
the school for a while. The anti-war element
Activist autl
pened to choose the Vietnam War upon
which to draw that line. So they called one,
but they didn't think it would be that important, it was done more for internal,
faction fight purposes than the issue itself.
They called this demonstration in
December, 1964 and set the date for April,
1965. In between these two dates the major
escalation took place and SDS was on the
scene with an already called demonstration
against the war. So the April demonstration
was far bigger than they'd thought it
would be, modest by later standards, but still
about 25,000 people. This youth group which
had broken with the hysteria made the
biggest thing ever, that was the
CUP: That's sort of an inauspicious
beginning for the 'new left'.
Halstead: Well, yes, SDS fancied itself the
new left and after that got a big reputation.
Their membership grew by many fold,
largely because of that one bold action,
which really wasn't so bold when you come
to think of it. They really just kind of fell
into it.
CUP: But, SDS had really built the first
united demonstration against the war, and all
the forces opposed to the war were included
in it.
Halstead: Sure, SDS had a non-exclusionary
policy, and they invited all the various
groups. I remember when they came to the
Socialist Workers Party and asked us to
support the action. I said, 'By all means, it's
about time'.
CUP: Well, what happened after this?
You've had one demonstration where
everybody's involved but then you've still got
all sorts of people who are in favor of exclusion of certain elements.
Halstead: As a matter of fact, a number of
leaders of the old Peace movement
denounced SDS and this march, publicly redbaited them. But, it was so big they ended up
with egg on their face.
Then, a peculiar thing happened. SDS
decided it wouldn't be in the leadership of
the peace movement. They dropped the ball.
They developed a strange theory about this.
They said the Vietnam war was important,
but it wasn't something that ladicals should
work on. 'We can't stop the war, we're not
strong enough. What we have to do is
develop a radical constituency in the community and get a big mass movement of
radicals which would be able to stop the
seventh war from now'.
That's the phrase that they used to
dramatically point to their position that it
was impossible to stop this war. It would
have to just run its course while the SDS built
a radical constituency on other issues.
CUP: They passed the buck?
Halstead: They defaulted. Some of us said,
wanted to have a strike by students, (boycott
of classes) but knew they were not in the
But, the administration was so afraid of
the strike, that they proposed a teach-in. So
the anti-war elements took them up on it,
thinking maybe a few hundred people might
come to it, and they'd do some educating.
Well, practically the whole school came, it
lasted all night. It spread very rapidly and it
resulted in resounding defeats for the
government position.
I would say that in the course of that one
year, the government's position on the war in
Vietnam was thoroughly discredited among
the academic community, simply because
you had a fair debate. The government, of
course, had been lying about the reasons for
their involvement.
CUP: You had a groundswell of support
against the war?
Halstead: Only in the academic community
now. There were two reasons for this. One
was that the students now had the information and knew that it was wrong.
People became experts on the war.
The other factor was that students were
being subjected to the draft in a certain way.
When Johnson announced the escalation, he
upped the draft. Well, students had what was
called a 2-S draft deferment, providing they
maintained their grades and stayed in school.
But, they were under the threat of the
draft. Others grated under the injustice of
the student deferment itself. Working class
kids and poor kids were being drafted and
students weren't. They felt obligated to do
After a while, the government did start
drafting students, because they needed these
college educated kids to non-commissioned
officers and all. This just gave a bread and
butter edge to the anti-war movement,
because suddenly they were being asked to go
out and die in a war they didn't believe in.
CUP: How did discussion develop when the
movement became more general?
Halstead: There was always some discussion
about civil disobedience, from the Ghandian
pacifists, who advocated it during the old
anti-nuclear bomb days and said we should
do this as a tactic in the war. It wasn't difficult to reconcile this with mass demonstrations because these were well trained,
well organized civil disobedience doers who
would plan it out and do it in such a way that
those who didn't want to do it didn't have to.
The arrests would be limited to those who
wanted to be involved.
A little later on, when the frustrations
came, there were those who began to advocate attacks on windows and trashing
buildings and stuff like that. That grew out
of the frustrations felt of a few years of
actions   like  teach-ins   and   mass   demon- Tuesday, October 24,  1978
Page 7
tions which didn't stop the war. It came
big head at the 1968 Democratic Party
here were big differences over this. We,
socialists, were very strong to' advise
inst movement violence. We weren't
ifists. We would defend ourselves against
attacks of right wingers. But, we weren't
looking for fights with the cops, and we
l't think throwing a rock against the
dow of a bank or a store was going to
) the war. It just gave the government a
nee to come down on you with their
iut, there was a lot of frustration. People
a't realize just how effective the anti-war
cement was — that it was reaching out
) broader and broader layers,
remember I used to make a talk at
ferences in those days. I'd say 'A few
usand students going out and trash all
r the place aren't going to stop this war.
:re are only three groups in the country
t can stop this war. One is the ruling class.
:y started it, and every time they start
lething they've got the power to stop it.
vnother is the working class. They've got
power to stop this war. 100,000 students
part of the cancer, that it was necessary to
build a movement arguing for the total
transformation of society. How did you
address that sentiment?
Halstead: Well, it was true. It was only part
of the cancer. We didn't have any argument
with them. We all had a radical view of
society. We wanted all sorts of fundamental
changes, not just the end of the war. So, it
was a false argument, no one was 'just'
against the war inside the movement. Each of
us had a whole series of positions.
The problem was that no two
organizations had the same series of
positions. If you tried to get agreement on all
the other questions you couldn't have unity.
The only thing we all agreed upon was opposition to the war. So the technique was to
combine those two things together without
splitting apart. The way it was finally done
was that we would have coalitions around the
war issue and nothing else.
It would be non-exclusive coalitions in
which people of all kinds of other ideas could
be a part and would be free to speak their
piece, try to explain their other ideas and
pass out literature at demonstrations.
But, the whole coalition wasn't responsible
or recollects
and Vietnam
nonstrating aren't going to stop the war,
: 100,000 longshoremen, truckdrivers and
Dn stopping moving can stop the war. The
rd group is the GIs and soldiers them-
ves, who are the fodder. If they become
i-war they have the raw power to stop it.
Oh, it's treason, you can't even think it,"
ne would say. Others in the movement
uld say, 'The soldiers are butchers, you
l't get through to them.' We had a big
pute over that.
was one of those who advocated first that
had to reach the soldiers. One of the
sons was that I remembered what we did
the Navy at the end of the Second World
ir. At the end of the war, we actually had a
ss movement for rapid demobilization
i to come home. They wanted us to stay
:re and become part of the Chinese Civil
ir. We didn't want that, we wanted to
ne home. So we had mass demonstrations
:n in uniform, even in shooting situations,
new that GIs could be reached, we've got
reach GIs.
IP: I suppose you found a certain layer
o argued that the war in Vietnam was just
for anything that they said except their
opposition to the war. That was how we'd
resolve it. It wasn't easy because you'd build
a coalition around the war and you'd have a
mass demonstration. Everybody would see
that the demonstration was so powerful that
they'd want it to adopt their particular multi-
issue program. Sometimes they'd succeed at
a conference in carrying that. But, that
particular organization would no longer be a
non-exclusive one, because it would exclude
anyone who didn't agree with all those
So, the Socialist Workers Party with
others very strongly insisted on sticking to
the war issue and uniting everyone who you
possibly could around that one issue. The
political thrust was to be around the slogan
for immediate withdrawal. Our slogan was
'Bring the troops home now Mt was designed
that way on purpose.
It was that way so you cut through the
patriotic hysteria and the pseudo patriotic
crap. The right wing attempted to say we
were stabbing the American soldiers in the
back. They'd say 'support our GIs'. We
PROTESTORS . . . close B.C
would answer 'bring the troops home now',
which appealed to the GIs. It undercut the
right constantly.
As a matter of fact we'd even adopted half
of their slogan and combined it with ours.
We said Support our GIs, bring the troops
home now'. The way to support our GIs was
to stop this war, just get out.
But then others would say, 'Well let's call
for negotiations'. We'd say 'All right we're
not against negotiations. Something's going
to be negotiated anyway. But that slogan can
be adopted by the government.' They'd say
we're in favor of negotiations, too. Then
they'd just continue the war.
What can't be adopted by the government
is bring the GIs home. That's what appealed
to the broadest masses. Because it was just
ordinary people out there, whose sons were
being drafted and wrote letters home saying,
'what the hell am I doing here'.
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These people would ordinarily be hostile to
the anti-war movement. They weren't
radicals but, when they say that slogan 'bring
the GIs home', that's what they wanted. We
appealed to the mass. They didn't care about
negotiations, that was just some complicated
bullshit the politicians talked about. What
they wanted was their boy home.
We appealed to that, no bones about it.
'We are making a bread and butter appeal to
ordinary people in the clearest simplest way
-we can*. We said 'that's ordinary people.'
There's no equivocating on it. 'You bring all
the American forces home and the war is
CUP: On the basis of that simple, single issue
slogan you were able to build a broad based
anti-war movement for five years, from 1967
to '72?
Halstead: Yes.
CUP: You must have had a pretty rocky
Halstead: Oh, yes. It was very rocky. It
would have its ups and downs. We would
have a big demonstration and then the
movement would go into decline afterwards.
People would feel frustrated. The government would lie. The government would
pretend to ignore this.
We now knew, from the secret documents
released after Watergate, that they were
obsessed with it and it did affect their
policies. It became a major factor that they
had to deal with.
But, it didn't really stop the government in
their tracks until it reached the soldiers. The
soldiers just started to really dog it. The
American ground forces became a 'net
liability'. That's the phrase some of the
generals used. At that point they had no
choice. They had to pull them out.
CUP: What sort of workers' support did the
anti-war movement get?
Halstead: Originally it was students and they
remained the shock troops throughout. At a
big mass demonstration of a quarter of a
million people, most of them were workers.
But, they didn't come as workers, in the
name of their trade union. We were conscious of trying to get the unions involved,
but it was a pretty uphill struggle.
It wasn't until May 1970 that we succeeded
in getting large unions involved. By 1972, if
the government had tried another escalation
after the signing of the accords, there's no
question that the unions would have been
very heavily involved in the protests. That's
one reason why the government didn't try an
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Tuesday, October 24,  1978
Veterans threw back their medals
From page 7
CUP: The movement entered a
general decline after 1972 ...
Halstead Well, inevitably it would,
because the troops were withdrawn.
The bombing was stopped. The
civil war in Vietnam continued with
the U.S. still supplying arms and
But as far as the ordinary
American was concerned the im-
UBC admin
blamed in
union drive
From page 1
"The GSA thinks a union is
definitely necessary," he said. "The
GSA decided to get serious and stop
playing kid's games (with the administration)."
Fuller said the administration
thinks teaching assistants' wages
should be set by supply and
demand, but added fewer TA
positions  are currently  available.
The administration does not
want to set TA wages too low,
because UBC has to attract outside
graduates for the prestige of the
university, Fuller added.
Erich Vogt, faculty and student
affairs vice-president, said he is
surprised that TAs are considering
forming a union.
"We (the administration) have
been revising policy concerning
TAs and we are still discussing this
with them."
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was relieved. The interesting thing
was that by 1973, the thing had
come full circle. By '73 the U.S.
was in the same position as they had
been in 1960, with small forces
there, under the guise of advisors
and military aid to the counterrevolutionary side.
The difference was that they
couldn't escalate. They couldn't
put their own troops back in there.
CUP: There were 500,000 troops in
Vietnam in 1967 and about 120,000
by the end of 1971. Two years later
they were all gone. Do you feel you
were directly responsible for that?
Halstead: There's no question.
1971 was when the big break came.
We had our biggest demonstration
(750,000) in April 1971. At that
time I think there were about
300,000 troops there. By the end of
that year they just weren't an effective fighting force.
It's interesting the shift that took
place. At the beginning of the war,
we'd often have WWII veterans
march at the front of the parade
wearing their medals. By 1971, you
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could barely find an American flag
on a demonstration. One of the big
dramatic actions of the 1971
demonstration was to have a group
of Vietnam veterans march up to
the Capitol and throw their medals
back at the government. Just hurled
them back with bitterness.
CUP: Carter is beginning to sabre
rattle at various countries in Africa
today as U.S. corporations find
hostile political climates. If they
tried some sort of intervention
again, how fast would the
movement spring up again?
Halstead: I think it will spring up
damn fast and that's one of the
reasons why they haven't tried it.
But, they'll continue to try it,
they'll probe, probe — sooner or
later they'll do it. They do have this
problem, they know there will be a
very big reaction. One of their
calculations in starting a new war
will be, has that mood dissipated.
Have people forgotten?
CUP: That's why you're still
Halstead: Yes and reminding them
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or a licentiate in accounting, wishing to register as C.A.
students with the Institute of Chartered Accountants of
British Columbia, to join the Office as Audit Assistants. Interested students majoring in other subjects are also invited
to apply.
We offer a comprehensive and attractive compensation
package to successful candidates.
Interested students should contact the Canada Employment Centre on Campus, telephone 228-4011, for further information. Deadline for applications is October 30th, 1979.
i t
Career Counselling Workshops
I—For WOMEN (3rd & 4th year); 3 THURSDAYS,
Session 1, OCT. 12; Session 2, OCT. 19;
Session 3, OCT. 26; 12:30 - 2:20 p.m.
II—For WOMEN (Returning/Mature); 3 THURSDAYS,
Session 1, OCT. 26; Session 2, NOV. 2;
Session 3, NOV. 9; 12:30-2:20 p.m.
Ill—For WOMEN/MEN (3rd & 4th year); 3 THURSDAYS,
Session 1, NOV. 16; Session 2, NOV. 23;
Session 3, NOV. 30; 12:30-2:20 p.m.
Workshops will include evaluation of skills, career
and lifegoals, resume writing and interviewing
Facilitators — Maryke Gilmore, Workshop II, Tel.:
Diane Waterman, Workshops I & III,
Tel.: 228-6271.
Buchanan Building, Room 456
or call: 228-2415 Tuesday, October 24,  1978
Page 9
Slow start for travelling icers
Rebuilding a hockey team is a
slow process, as UBC Thunderbird
head coach Bert Halliwell is finding
out. The 'Birds showed their pin-
feathers on the weekend road trip
to the Kootenays, dropping a 4-1
decision Friday in Cranbrook, then
losing 7-3 to the Dynamiters in
Kimberley on Saturday.
Jim MacLaughlin counted
UBC's lone goal in Friday's g&me,
while Rob Jones and Bruce
Youngman tallied for the Thunderbirds in Saturday's contest.
"We're a young team (averaging
21 years) and consequently we are
inexperienced," said Halliwell.
The Thunderbird coach doesn't
make excuses for his team's per
formance > but
there   is   an   ex-
The 'Birds are more or less
forced to play most pre-season
games on the road.
"Road games are much easier to
arrange, says Halliwell. It is easier
to arrange for our team to play a
road game than to bring a team
down here, because of the expense."
The Thunderbirds are given a
travel guarantee by the various non-
conference teams they play, which
assures the team a percentage of
gate receipts to help cover travel
expenses. At the university the
games are seen mostly by students,
who aren't charged, so no travel
guarantee can be offered to a team
playing at UBC.
In hockey, as in most other
university sports, the visiting team
is at a disadvantage.
"Home ice is worth two goals,"
insists the UBC coach. And these
pre-season games are not exhibition
games, as many people assume. The
wins that Cranbrook and Kinberley
recorded go into their league
standings, so they play for keeps.
"The University of Calgary and
the University of Alberta do the
same thing," added Halliwell in
reference to the playing-for-points
situation. "It's very much similar
to the series the Europeans played
against the WHA (World Hockey
Association) last year. Those games
were played for points."
Football playoff spots loom
for just 2 teams from West
The UBC Thunderbirds football
team moved into a first-place log
jam atop the Western Intercollegiate Football League Saturday
by virtue of a 30-9 victory over the
University of Manitoba Bisons.
The 'Birds are currently in a
three-way tie for the top spot with
Alberta and Calgary, but can wrap
up the top berth and home field advantage for the sudden-death
playoff on Nov. 4 with a win over
the Golden Bears Saturday afternoon at Thunderbird Stadium.
A Pts.
5 2
5 2 242 101 10
5 2
3 4
0 8
73 260
UBC had to battle gale-force
winds to defeat the winless
Manitoba Bisons and improve their
season record to a healthy 5-2 in
league play. But more importantly
for the league playoff situation, the
Calgary Dinosaurs scored a 20-10
upset over the previous league
leaders, Alberta Golden Bears, to
also bring their record up to the 5-2
Calgary clearly has the easiest
route to the playoff game. They
host the University of Saskatchewan Huskies (3-4) on Friday
night. Should they win and the
Birds go on to defeat the Golden
Bears the next day, the 'Birds and
Dinos will be tied with 6-2 season
records. But UBC would gain home
field advantage for the playoff
game by virtue of a 48-39 edge in
points. UBC lost to Calgary 29-14
in its season opener but beat the
Dinos 34-10 Oct. 14 at UBC.
Should Calgary lose against the
Huskies UBC would gain a playoff
whether it wins or loses Saturday's
game. A win would give UBC sole
possession of first place and home
field for the playoff, while a loss
would give the 'Birds second place
and move the playoffs to Edmonton.
The only eventuality that leaves
the 'Birds out in the cold is a win by
both Calgary and Alberta. This
would put them both in first place
with 6-2 records with the playoff
game in Edmonton due to their
point differential against Calgary
this year.
In last Saturday's game at Winnipeg, high winds kept both teams
passing game to a minimum. But
UBC quarterback Dan Smith
managed to connect with league-
leading receiver Chris Davies for
touchdowns on two and three-yard
Former Bison John MacKay ran
in for a touchdown and Dave
Negrin got a major on a 20-yard
dash. Gary Metz converted all four
touchdowns for the 'Birds while Al
Chorney booted two singles from
63 yards and 84 yards.
The hapless Bisons had all their
points scored by one player, Les
Oakes. In the first quarter, Oakes
kicked   a   37-yard   field   goal.
The Kootenay Hockey League is
one of the areas from which the
Thunderbirds extract their talent, in
addition to the Pacific Coast and
B.C. Junior Leagues.
"We have seven or eight local
products on this year's team,"
beamed Halliwell.
The UBC coach scouts extensively during the off-season, in
an attempt to draw better players to
the university. This year he has
added two eastern products to the
lineup: Frank Inouye from the
University of Western Ontario and
Giles Grenier from Lavalle
University in Quebec.
This year's roster totals 22, but
includes only eight returnees. For
league play the team is allowed to
dress only 18 players at home and
may carry only 17 on the road.
The loss of the junior varsity
squad two years ago has really hurt
the hockey programme at UBC.
The added expense was more than
the budget could handle, so the
team was eliminated. Coach
Halliwell explains that about 75 per
cent of the Jayvee team moved up
to the 'Birds.
"I'm now forced to farm out our
less experienced to the Pacific
Coast League, and that makes it
hard to keep up with their
progress," he said.
The Jayvee's acted as a farm
team for the 'Birds, from which
players could be moved up or down
according  to   their   performance.
When asked what the team's
biggest probelm was last year
(having now exhausted this year's)
coach Halliwell replied, "Alberta,
they're too damn good. After you
win one or two championships your
reputation speaks for itself, you
develop a tradition and the players
start to come to you."
The UBC coach expects this
year's University of Alberta team to
be just as strong. In their preseason play the Alberta squad
played Denver University, a
perennial powerhouse in major
college hockey, to a 5-5 draw in
BIRD SEED — The Thunderbirds
will assume home advantage this
Friday as they take on the great
'Birds of the past in the fourth
annual Alumni-Varsity game.
Game time is 7:30 pm at the Winter
Sports Centre. In last year's contest
the 'Birds soared to an 8-3 victory.
Jock Shorts
CHORNEY . . . long kicks
Manitoba quarterback Duane
Hysop completed a 39-yard pass to
Oakes in the second quarter to give
the Bisons their only major of the
game. The Manitoba convert attempt was kicked wide.
Dave Negrin, formerly UBC's
No. 4 running back but now playing
in place of his injured brother Rich
Negrin and star back Gord Penn,
was the game's leading rusher, carrying the ball 16 times for 177
yards. MacKay also had a very good
day rushing, gaining a total of 132
yards for UBC.
Davies led UBC with three
receptions for 14 yards.
The UBC women's Varsity field
hockey team was in Saskatoon on
the weekend to compete in the
Canada West Intercollegiate field
hockey championships. They
returned home victorious, having
repeated as the Canada West
champions for the second consecutive year.
The Thunderettes went through
the tournament with an unblemished 4-0 record. They met the
strong University of Victoria
Vikettes in the final. Dana Sinclair
tallied all three goals for the UBC
team in this contest, which ended 3-
1 UBC.
Other Saturday victories were
recorded over the University of
Alberta (4-0) and the University of
Saskatchewan (5-0) in preliminary
The Thunderettes will now
prepare for the Canadian Intercollegiate Athletic Union
national championships in Toronto
Nov. 2-5.
*    *    *
B.C., bolstered by the addition
of several UBC players, beat
Quebec 41-3 at the Canadian Rugby
Championships in Calgary over the
weekend. The 'Birds play
Cowichan on the Island Saturday,
* *   *
Intramurals, which ran a $3,500
deficit last year, may go right down
the tube if the Alma Mater Society
fee referendum doesn't pass. Even
if you're not in intramurals, why
not get out and vote this Wednesday, Thursday and Friday?
* »   *
The soccer 'Birds finish their
Canada West Soccer League season
when they host the University of
Alberta Golden Bears at 4 p.m.
Friday at Mclnnes field.
With a 3-3-1- record, UBC holds
down third, place. On Saturday,
UBC beat the Golden Bears 1-0 in
Edmonton, then went to Calgary,
where the 'Birds beat the Dinos 2-0.
The University of Victoria (4-1-2)
leads the league and the University
of Saskatchewan is second (4-3-1).
sticky hands
Thunderettes thrive on soccer interest
Soccer is Canada's fastest-growing sport,
and women's soccer at UBC shows that the
level of skill grows along with the new interest.
Soccer is not yet, by any means, the most
important campus sport. There were only a
dozen onlookers Sunday morning when the
Thunderettes lost 1-0 to a strong Wesburn
team in B.C. Senior Women's Soccer League
play at UBC's Mclnnes field:
But the indications are there. The six-year
old, two-division league is flourishing, an'1
juvenile teams are sprouting up all over. Add
to that a professional team (the Whitecaps)
in town, plus television coverage, and the
basis is laid for the sport's growth.
Only a few of the Thunderettes have
played much soccer, so the level of skills on
the field is greatly veried. And because soccer
is extra-curricular, it's hard for some players
to find time for the practices and games,
which compete with other sports for their
UBC was without two of its best players,
i captain Debbie Shaw and fullback Collen
Kirk, and were dominated for much of the
game by Wesburn, which pressed UBC,
forcing errors. On one occasion UBC was
trapped in its left corner, and when the ball
was cleared in front of the goal, Evelyn
Cobley knocked home the winnet.
"They're nervous because they're playing
against a good team," said coach Joe
Molnar. They haven't been together long.
There's only four or five back from last year.
Some of them have no ball control, no
(strong) kick."
Indeed, one of UBC's problems was
inability to slow down the play, then build a
drive with organized passes.
"There's no system," s&id Molnar.
"There's not much talk on the field."
He added that few of the players are able
to take enough time, while carrying the ball,
to look around. This results in close checking
and frequent tackling, and the ball changes
possession too often, he said.
Forward Chris Trainor said women who
decide to play senior soccer wjjl already have
mastered the basic skills only when the game
is played regularly in high schools, where it is
still almost ignored.
But Molnar did say that the team is better
than last year's version, and he expects UBC
to finish second or third in the playoffs,
which are held after the 14-game regular
And with the future, who knows? Maybe
soccer will achieve the popularity it is accorded in Europe and South America.
Molnar says at bast a couple of the Thunderettes are good enough now to make
professional women's teams in England.
But he says that Canadian professional
teams shouldn't hire players from abroad,
but rather should encourage local players to
make a career out of soccer. He points out
that many locals he coached when they were
with the 'Birds have gone to play in the U.S.
Molnar says that to build a strong soccer
system the hire of money Is needed at the,
professional level.
UBC sees its next action Saturday and
Sunday in a 16-team tourney at New
Westminster Secondary School, hosted by
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Tuesday, October 24,  1978
'Tween classes
Supper, movie Guess Who's Coming to
Breakfast, 6 p.m., Lutheran Campus Centre.
General meeting, noon, SUS 130.
Testimony meeting, noon, SUB 224.
Sports night, 7:30 p.m., Thunderbird Sports
Complex gym A.
Informal discussion, noon, SUB 113.
General meeting, noon, SUB party room
Letter writing workshop, executive meeting,
noon, SUB 212A. Letters for Prisoners of Conscience available for all students to send, noon,
SUB 237.
Prayer and sharing, noon, SUB 213.
Dr. Harry Anthony lectures on London:
Rebuilding the Core, noon, F. Lasserre Building
room 102.
General meeting, noon, SUB 212.
Lesbian drop-in, noon, SUB 130.
Meeting, slide show, noon. Chemistry building
room 250.
Battered Wives special interview, music, 8 p.m.,
95,9 FM cable, 650 AM on campus.
Hot flashes
My T-cup
runneih over
They fix your aches and bake
your cakes.
Nursing and Home Ec. will meet
on Mclnnes field next to SUB at
noon Thursday to promote support
for the annual Muscular Dystrophy
fund drive in T-cup game.
Donations for the MS fund can
be placed in cans located
throughout the campus or at the
game on Thursday.
Nuke the nukes
If you're interested in finding out
why nuclear weapons are a no-no,
then the Coalition for World Disarmament will be showing a slide
show on the dangers of nuclear
weapons and power in SUB 119 at
12:45 p.m. on Wednesday.
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A comprehensive training programme will be provided to successful
applicants over an initial two-year period
leading to placement as a Divisional
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Candidates must be available for
placement in various metropolitan centres of Canada. Ideally, applicants should
be graduates with Bachelor of Commerce (Marketing) or Home Economics.
If you are interested in Merchandising, come have a talk with us. Contact
the campus placement office to arrange
an appointment for an interview to be
held on campus November 1st and 2nd.
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General meeting, noon, SUB 200.
Dr. D. J. Glencross speaks on Motor Program
and Feedback Controls of Speed Movement,
12:40 p.m.. War Memorial Gym room 211.
Forum on state-organized attacks on foreign
students, 7:30 p.m., SUB 213.
Club meeting, noon, SUB 115.
General meeting, noon, SUB 213.
Women's drop-in, noon, SUB 130.
Beer night; meet NDP federal candidates Alan
Bush, Mercia Stickney, Svend Robinson, Ron
Johnson, 5 p.m., SUB 207. Federal NDP candidate Svend Robinson speaks on The Socialist
International, noon, SUB 215.
Ski ramp demonstration, noon. Flag square outside SUB.
Evangelistic meeting, Dr. Don Anderson speaks,
noon, SUB 125.
Annual T-cup football game between nurses and
home economics students, noon, Maclnnes
Go Hire Yourself An Employer workshop for
returning/mature women, noon. Brock Hall
room 301.
Ramez Atallah speaks on Christians and Quebec,
noon, Angus 104.
Psychotherapist Ellen Tallman speaks on Gays
and Feminism, noon, SUB 212.
Discussion on medieval costuming, noon, SUB
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of prisoners of conscience in South
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available today and every day this
week in our office upstairs in SUB.
Come by SUB Rm. 237 at lunch and
send a letter. Please help us help.
20 — Housing
rooms, S75 each per mo., singles S125-
$150 per mo.; kitchen facilities. Rent
discounts possible. 2280 Wesbrook,
ph. 224-9678, Mike or Greg.
25 — Instruction
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Westend: 682-4141 or 4B2-7981.
31st Oct.
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"1984"   in   SUB   Theatre   on   Thurs.,
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65 — Scandals
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is his first film after "The Exorcist".
Sorcerer starts this Thurs. at SUB
BLACK CAT BONE performs live gonzo-
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$2 non-members in advance at Imtern'l
House, 228-5021.
PROFESSIONAL TYPING on IBM correcting typewriter by experienced
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Pag* 11
Ice-tongs gizmo measures excess body fat
From page 1
"Young people just aren't tHat
active, but this is changing. In the
past three or four years there has
been more concern about pysical
fitness. The setup here is really to
help people find out where they
are," he says.
The centre is designed to be
accessible to students, Rhodes
adds, and it aims at the university
community, students, faculty and
staff. The center is open 18 to 20
hours a week, with staff members
available to help students with the
circuit, located just outside the
testing area.
The fitness center, known as the
John M. Buchanan research centre
in exercise and physiology and
sports medicine, is used for various
special groups. For instance, the
center tested the Vancouver Police
Emergency Response team and
used the test as a screening device
for UBC firemen. The fitness center
test is also used to evaluate the
condition of many athletes.
"We're trying to be very positive,
but you have to lay it on the line
with people sometimes," says
In order to become fit, it takes a
good two or three months of a
concentrated program to build up
the cardio-vascular system, according to Rhodes.
"It's a life time commitment.
Young people don't think about it
as much, but as you grow older you
become more aware of the need for
physical fitness," he says.
He says the test is a starting point
and walking a block a day is a good
beginning towards physical fitness.
The overall outlook for Canadian
fitness is hopeful, says Rhodes.
"The general consensus has it
that the average Canadian is
becoming more physically active,"
he says.
People are gaining the courage to
become more physically active
because a lot of myths about fitness
are disappearing, especially those
concerning women, says Rhodes.
"Women used to think it was
unfeminine to exercise. They
thought that they would develop
bulging biceps, but they don't have
to worry about that. The old myth
that it's unfeminine to take part in
sport is gradually fading. An
example of this was the ladies' run
that was held in Stanley Park."
For my own contribution to
women's fitness, I decided to take
the test myself. I stepped up to the
scales, weighing in at 120.8 pounds,
66.1 inches, as an 18 year old
female. These measurements are
the criteria for the assessment of the
test results, on a sex/age average.
The first test is the cardiorespiratory assessment, which
indicates the ability of the heart and
lungs to deliver oxygen and is the
most indicative measure of a
person's physical condition.
As part of the test, a series of
electrodes are placed on the chest
and several pulse points. Electrical
impulses are projected onto a
screen, while the subject peddles an
exercise bicycle.
My score was below average,
indicating that I should be building
up my heart and lungs to avoid
becoming wheezy in my twenties.
A flexibility test follows, which
indicates the subject's ability to
move body parts through a range of
motions without undue strain to
joints and muscles. On a sit and
reach test, with back and shoulder
extensions that feel like a bend and
stretch torture session, I received a
good to excellent score.
An apparatus resembling a pair
of ice-tongs measures the percentage of fat and gives the exact
amount of extra fat the subject is
carrying. This amount is found by
taking the weight of your bones,
muscles, organs and body fluid and
calculating your normal fat content. This figure is then subtracted
from the actual body weight. My
results indicated that I have 22.57
per cent body fat, while the average
is 20.5 per cent. The fitness center
staff recommends you convert your
extra poundage into muscle instead
of simply losing weight.
The optimal body weight is the
most you should weigh, with a
projected percentage of total body
weight of 14 per cent. The effects of
too much body fat can lead to such
diseases as diabetes and hypertension.
The center's pulmonary function
tests assess the dynamic capability
of the lungs and respiratory
muscles. Something can be said for
heavy breathers, as the test involves
blowing into a tube as hard and as
fast as you can for a period of
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several seconds. This evaluates the
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When it is all over, the staff
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date of your interview. Mark the date and the room no. on your UCPA, along with the company's name. This will ensure your UCPA will be given to the right interviewer!
Schlumberger Canada
The Hudson's Bay Co.
(Note: Peat, Marwick, Mitchell - require current transcript & personal resume also)
Direct Sign-up opened Oct. 16
Procter & Gamble (Pro
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Direct Sign-up opened Oct. 20
ALL 6 C.A. FIRMS Direct Sign-Up opened Oct. 23
(Note: Touche, Ross require UCPA forms be submitted by Nov. 1st)
Hudson's Bay Oil & Gas
MacMillan Bloedel
Factory Mutual Eng.
Great-West Life
Eli Lilly Canada Ltd.
Amoco Canada Ltd.
Direct Sign-up opened Oct. 23
(for Geophysics program)
Direct Sign-up opens Oct. 30
Canadian Imperial
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Canada Life Assurance
Direct Sign-Up opens Nov. 6
London Life Insurance
Direct Sign-up opens Nov. 14
There have been a number of amendments and additions to the latest Bulletin #2, which was
published Oct. 17th. Check in regularly at the Canada Employment Centre and with your
student/faculty employment representative for details!
Som^mployer^vh^repre-screening may not have notified you about the results . . .
When the week of the campus visit approaches, check with the Canada Employment Centre if
you have not heard from the company. Most employers are using telegrams to notify students,
or phone calls if they are located in Vancouver.
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The AMS has been running on empty the last
3 years. WHY?
In the last 30 years there has not been an increase in student operating fees. Faced with
the LOWEST student fees in Canada and
escalating costs that are financially crippling the Society, the AMS is asking YOU for a
$2.00 increase in its fees.
Without the increase . . .
The subsidies to the intramurals programs,
clubs, and undergraduate societies are
relatively impossible to maintain without a
referendum. The Student Union Building
could potentially become inaccessible to the
students as the AMS is forced to impose
Rental Fees to cover administration costs.
The AMS is not a business, and it should not
be forced to operate like one.
Help the Society to foster development of
programs across campus and to continue
operating at a high standard of QUALITY.
VOTE OCTOBER 24th-27th
Polling Stations will be in the following locations
WED.—Sub, Sedge, MacMillan, Ceme, Hebb, Computer Science, and Law
THURS.—Sub, Sedge, IRC, Ceme, Angus, Buch, Hebb, and Scarfe
FRI.—Sub, Sedge, MacMillan, Angus, Buch, Scarfe and Computer Science


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