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Array Riled reps
scorn retreat
Two council members are opposed to a hasty funding decision made
by the student council to help finance the next frosh retreat.
Brian Roach and Mark Crawford, arts representatives on student
council, opposed council financing
of $1,000 towards a weekend frosh
retreat at Camp Elphinstone.
The retreat is aimed at first year
students and hopes to familiarize
them with various functions of
Three major issues of discussion
at the retreat will be: the structure
of the administration, board, senate
and Alma Mater Society; areas of
personal interest such as food services, housing, and the registrar's
office; and how to get involved.
"Basically, the rationale is to
show UBC students how to get involved," said Roach Wednesday.
But he disagrees with the idea on
several points. "It seems to me it is
rather expensive to send 80 to 100
students, plus the administration,
board and senate to the camp,"
said Roach.
"I oppose this because it is not
simply a learning experience. By
making it a weekend away, it is
building this thing into a social affair."
"The topics discussed suggest
they are pushing themselves to fill
out the weekend. If students are
really interested in what's going on,
they're more likely to find out for
themselves," he said.
Roach would rather see the orientation run on campus because
"some students can't given an entire weekend because of work or
"Something could be run on
campus for less money with numerous sessions on different topics at
several set times," said Roach. "A
lack of interest in the past shows
that students may not come away
from a retreat at Elphinstone any
more inspired. If the conference
was held here and it didn't work,
less money would be lost."
Roach feels the decision to give
the money was made too quickly.
"The issue was never mentioned at
a previous council meeting, then it
came up, was submitted, and passed."
The students are paying for this,
and it is not an insignificant amount
of money, said Roach. In the future
council could possibly be asked to
contribute more money.
Roach was bothered by the fact
that other groups, such as the women's committee, are questioned
thoroughly and have problems obtaining funding from council. "The
quickness of the decision shows a
lack of thought," he said.
"Should we really be holding this
if there's been a lack of interest in
the past? We're spending all our
money arranging conferences trying
to figure out why things aren't happening rather than doing them,"
Roach said.
Apathy murders
media meeting
Members of the Alma Mater
Society media commission are
dismayed and disturbed that only
five people presented briefs at the
commission's first public meeting,
held Tuesday in the conversation
"The fact that only five people
showed up probably means the
media commission is unnecessary,"
said Ubyssey editor and commission member Verne McDonald.
"We learned absolutely nothing
we didn't know before,"
McDonald said. But he added,
"there was something accomplished
by the meeting in that students had
access to what was going on, and
that's very rare around here."
Student senator Alida Moonen,
another member of the commission, said she was disappointed by
the turnout but not surprised.
She added, "public meetings
usually aren't very productive
anyway. They tend to get emotional
and get people's backs up. People
are quick to criticize something they
know nothing about."
She said the meeting was designed to get student input for
guidelines on setting up a media
liaison committee, and condemned
the debating society for presenting
two briefs merely to criticize The
Ubyssey and "practice their
debating techniques."
Two members of the debating
society attacked The Ubyssey for
not meeting the needs of clubs on
"It's damn near impossible to get
anything in the paper except for the
miniscule print under the heading
"Tween classes,' " debating society
vice president Simon van Norton
He opposed suggestions that The
Ubyssey or CITR become
autonomous from the AMS, saying, "if we have no control of the
media, should we (students) foot
the bill? If it (The Ubyssey) wants
so much to be individual, it should
find some way to pay its own way."
Rick Clark, president of the
debating society, proposed the formation of a four page club supplement which would be distributed
with, but independent of, The
Joe March, another member of
the media commission and CITR
news director, said he was surprised
anyone showed up at the meeting at
all. He said the meeting was nonproductive.
"Let's face it, all they did was
flak The Ubyssey. At least we (the
commission) performed our duty.
We tried to go to the people," he
Bill Tieleman, former Ubyssey
news editor and former Canadian
University Press national bureau
chief, recommended the formation
of a publications board with
Ubyssey representatives, AMS
representatives and students at
large. He said the board would
publish The Ubyssey and effectively
remove the friction between The
Ubyssey and the AMS.
Vol. LXIII.No. 8
Vancouver, B.C. Thursday, September 25,1980       <^^>'iH      228-2301
— «ic agg.rtaon photo
SIMON VAN NOLTON speaks to media commission Tuesday, little realizing photographer is using rare radium
lense designed to cause irrelevance and tangential thought. Tactic worked as Nolton spoke eloquently and
forcefully on subject having nothing to do with meeting nor purpose of media commission, according to commission members. Norton got lion's share of applause. See story, 'Apathy murders.'
Pit patrons ponder progress
The $80,000 spent by the Alma
Mater Society on Pit renovations
has not inspired an $80,000 response from UBC students.
In fact, several old-time students
said the renovations have actually
worsened the Pit's atmosphere,
while others felt the change was un-
"This is my fifth year and I liked
it better the way it was before,"
said a fifth year student who declined to be named. A number of
students echoed his views.
"I walked in there and had to be
reminded that it had been
changed," said arts student Stephen
'I don't think it (the renovations)
was worth the month and a half we
waited for it. They extended the
bar, but it wasn't enough to show a
valid improvement in their service," said student Colleen Nickel,
arts 4.
Other students criticized the
AMS' spending priorities.
"I don't think our money
should've been used to dress up the
place,"  said  Mark  Hilton.   "I'd
Paper censorship  tabled
WINNIPEG (CUP) — The University of
Manitoba's student council (UMSU) tabled a motion
last Tuesday which would have given it control over
the editorial policy and budget of the Manitoban, U of
M's student newspaper.
The motion also dealt with changes to the
university's bylaws of the Manitoban operations committee, the special UMSU standing committee set up as
a buffer between the council and newspaper. Portions
of the MOC bylaws concern editorial content and
budgeting procedure.
The motion, presented by the UMSU bylaws committee, was a response to controversy surrounding interpretation of the present MOC bylaw. The bylaws
currently delegate control of the Manitoban to the operations committee. Only final approval of the paper's
budget and the power to amend MOC bylaws is left up
to UMSU.
Students against the motion said the move would
make the operations committee a figure-head body
and threaten the editorial independence of the Manitoban.
But other students argued that the present bylaws already give UMSU the right to set the Manitoban's
budget and amend MOC bylaws.
UMSU president Jim Egan and director of administration Mike Crutch said that since the council has the
ultimate responsibility for the newspaper, UMSU
should have complete control over the Manitoban's
budget and the operations committee bylaws.
Crutch said that under the present system the
paper's staff could arrange their budget any way it
likes, once the total subsidy figure was received from
After some debate the motion was tabled for a
rather see lower prices than a nicer
"If SFU can sell beer cheaper,
they (the Pit) shouldn't be ripping
off the students. It doesn't seem
right to me," said Pete, a pharmacy
student who wouldn't give his surname.
The renovations have led to
greater efficiency, said Pit manager
Graham Smyth. He said the staff
can sell the same volume with less
One Pit employee said, "I think
the new facilities are better for the
staff than they are for the
AMS finance director Len
Clarke said the renovations have allowed the Pit to provide greater service to patrons.
Clarke also pointed out that
renovations were necessary because
the health department threatened to
close down the Pit if certain standards weren't met.
Allan Soltis, AMS external affairs coordinator, said he hopes
there will be more renovations in
"It's nice the way it is, but it
would be nicer to get it all finished
off. I was hoping that they'd do
more renovations, especially with
the roof and fighting," he said.
"Everybody will drink there because it's our drinking hole, but
let's make it a nice drinking hole,"
he added. Page 2
Thursday, September 25,1980
Ian Smith
not wanted
at McGill
Smith, former Rhodesian prime
minister, will not be speaking at
McGill university after all.
The McGill debating union has
decided not to sponsor Smith for
financial reasons although members
of the club acknowledge the
"furor" which erupted on campus
over Smith's visit.
"The decision was based on
financial merits due to the non appearance of co-sponsor funds caused by the debate on the issue," said
Marcel Mongeon, president of the
debating union.
The McGill student society had
condemned the invitation and the
arts and science undergraduate
society had refused to contribute
any money towards it. A petition
was circulated on campus to condemn the use of student funds to
pay for Smith.
Barbara Jenkins, president of the
McGill South Africa committee,
said she was happy to hear aboift
the decision but wished it had not
been made solely on a financial
"I'm very relieved that this issue
has been resolved because it takes
away from the main issue of our
committee which is divestment,"
she said. "1 think it is a wise decision not to have a speaker such as
Ian Smith at McGill university . . .
I only wish they would have made
the decision for different reasons."
Smith would have been paid
$6,000 for his appearance.
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AUCE slams
budget cuts
Members of the Association of University and College Employees union
at UBC are strongly opposed to a move by the provincial government to
slash $2.1 million dollars from university salaries.
"In the face of the announced budgetary cutbacks, AUCE totally opposes these cutbacks which may result in reduction of already under paid
and overworked staff," said a press release issued by local 1.
UBC spokesman Al Hunter announced Sept. 17 that 1.7 per cent of the
salaries budget would be cut back university-wide in next year's budget.
"We don't want them to save their 1.7 per cent at our expense," said
Wendy Bice, coordinator of the UBC local, after local executives held an
emergency meeting Tuesday to discuss the cutback.
The union plans to send a letter to administration president Doug Kenny
stating their opposition to staff layoffs as a result of the planned administration cutback.
The union has not been told how the cutbacks will affect its members.
"We haven't been consulted or given notice by the university yet," said
Bice Wednesday. "We are very concerned, but until something happens,
we are watching to see what will happen."
Bice did not know if the salary slash would slow down hiring. "Right
now there are a lot of postings, a lot of job openings," she said.
Bice was not sure what form the cutback would take because "it could
involve laying off faculty, or cuts could be made through attrition," she
$2.1 million will be cut from UBC's budget because the provincial
government operating grant has not kept up with inflation. The university
received an effective operating increase of only 7.9 per cent although it had
asked for 10 per cent, well below the average provincial grant request of
12.5 per cent.
The UBC faculty association has attacked the provincial government for
cutting back on university funding.
"The government gets out easy," faculty vice-president Charles Culling
said Sept. 18. "It says we must make the adjustment and leaves the university with the decision on how to do it."
In the library reduced public services or larger backlogs will be one effect
of the cutback according to the head librarian. The library is currently operating with a limited budget.
Laurier council
scraps station
(CUP) — The campus radio station
at Wilfred Laurier University has
been shut down because the student
council says it did not justify the
money spent.
But radio station manager Ted
Musgrove has charged the closure
of the station was a "trade-off" for
the building of a new $220,000 student lounge on campus.
The Wilfred Laurier student
union decided Sept. 14 to disband
Radio Laurier. Council president
Mike Brown said the station was
not worth the investment.
"The on-air portion of Radio
Laurier was not serving the
students. It was not worth the expenditure," he said.
Musgrove said the financial argu
ment cannot be used because this
student council treasurer has said
there is no shortage of funds.
"(Brown) is using the radio station as a scapegoat for the costs of
the new floor," he said.
It was a planning committee of
the council that decided to close the
station despite protests from the
staff, Musgrove said. He charged
the decision had been already made
prior to the Sept. 14 meeting.
He said the criterion for Closing
the station was ^unsubstantiated.''
Brown maintained the radio station was not worth funding. "Some
people were hurt and dejected
because of their strong commitment
to the radio station but that is not
enough to make Radio Laurier
work," he said.
JM-I.'s light fizzles
Self-defense is the only way to
combat racist and fascist violence, a
former student activist charged
Tuesday. But few students showed
any interest in joining a front to
fight racism and fascism if the
Communist Party of Canada
(Marxist-Leninist) belonged to it.
Charles Boylan, vice president of
the Alma Mater Society 1966-67,
against racist and fascist violence.
More than 20 people attended the
meeting held in SUB 205.
Opposition to groups such as the
CPC(M-L) belonging in a coalition
of groups and political interests is
not a valid reason for not belonging
to the front, Boylan said.
"Those who use anti-
communism and an anti-CPC(M-L)
attitude as a reason not to form a
united front are fighting on the
same side as the fascists and the
racists," charged Boylan.
People cannot count on the
authorities to protect themselves
from racist attacks, said Boylan.
"The source of racism is found in
the social system itself, as well as
with   the   government   that   ad
ministers that system," he said.
Boylan advocated a broad front
of all groups and political interests
to combat racism. "To legitimize
fascists will allow them to increase
their attacks," he said, adding that
the passivity of the people in pre-
nazi Germany must not be allowed
to happen in Canada.
Racism is still "part and parcel of
the state even now," said Boylan,
and that the continued existance of
racism and fascism was "a critique
of the social system itself, which is
based on exploitation of man by
Ordinary people, not government, must organize to combat
racism, Boylan said.
When asked whether or not
Canadian racist movements such as
the Western Guard and other opposing groups had rights to free
speech, Boylan said the people have
a "right to exist without deprivation of their liberties."
Boylan replaced Hardial Bains,
chairman of the CPM(M-L), as
speaker at the meeting after Bains
failed to appear as promised.
— stuart davta photo
ANOTHER BRIGHT sunny day passes at UBC and students sit quietly playing 'caps' in the gleaming golden rays.
Those who have sampled joys of classroom in past weeks now find more entertaining pursuits such as 'two for
flinching' and the long-time favorite 'rocks, paper, scissors.' Veterans know better than to get too bored when
there are five months of classes yet to come.
Expresso excites ex-Rhinoceros
Espresso coffee and psylocybin
mushrooms are the best drugs for
the coming decade, a defeated
Rhino candidate said in the SUB
auditorium Wednesday.
Rhino John, Eh? McDonald told
60 people that hallucinogenic drugs
used widely in the '60s were crude
by comparison with the many mind
alterting drugs available today.
"People don't want something
that destroys the mind or body,"
McDonald said, advocating safer
organic drugs as the best pharmaceutical aids for the coming decade.
But Colin Mangham of the provincial government's alcohol and
drug education program said drugs
are merely cosmetic aids in an egotistical, consumption-oriented
"We're facing a lot of problems
and drugs aren't the solution,"
Mangham said.
McDonald and Mangham were
speaking at an Alma Mater Society-
sponsored forum on "Mind-altering drugs for the '80s."
"We don't have a drug problem.
We have a people problem,"
Mangham said. "We're discussing
mind-altering drugs like they were
McDonald agreed that drugs
were treated too frivolously in our
society and advocated capital punishment for dealers in nicotine, a
drug which he said he felt to have
far worse effects than heroin.
McDonald admitted that there
was a "burnout factor" in LSD use
and was reluctant to recommend its
However, he said that there were
benefits to be gained from the use
of psychedelics but that the penalties handed out by the law in most
cases offset the advantages of synthetic hallucinogens.
Mangham discounted the possibility of using drugs to accelerate
intelligence and awareness.
' 'The only thing that will increase
intelligence is work and study," he
Students squeezed
ST. JOHN'S (CUP) — A space
squeeze in Memorial University
residences almost cost female
students their right to have single
rooms earlier this summer.
Memorial's student housing office intehded to place two students
in each of the 29 single rooms
available for women in residence.
Student housing manager Brian
Johnson said the proposal was
made by the administration at a
meeting to discuss the housing shortage. A letter had been sent to
residence officers and the Council
of the student union at the universi
ty outlining the problem and offering the proposal as a solution.
Johnson said the letter was sent
only to see what the reaction would
be, but student union president Joe
Greene said the letter stated the
practice would become official this
The numerous complaints received by the housing office and the student union resulted in the "doubling up" proposal being dropped
Lack of privacy and insufficient living space were the main arguments
against the move.
A large waiting list for rooms still
exists in female residences. Johnson
said it had been suggested one of
the male residence houses be used
for women, but they are completely
filled now and it would be impossible to change in mid-stream.
Meanwhile, more than 1,000 men
are waiting for single rooms at UBC
residences. In addition, nearly
another 500 men and women are on
the single room waiting lists.
UBC off-campus housing director Dave Johnson said last week the
housing crisis is no longer a
desperate situation, and that most
students have found some sort of
temporary shelter Page 4
Thursday, September 25, 1980
September 25, 1980
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater
Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS or
the university administration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page
Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Editor: Verne McDonald
Heather (3 times) Conn moved her fingers slowly over the quivering copy of Mark Leiren-Young. "Ooh, I want to just scratch it," she said to Verne McDonald
who was trembling as he fondled the keys of his tripewriter. Nancy Campbell gently stroked an em ruler for the first time. "So straight and hard and, oh God, it's
more than 12 inches long," she gasped as she laid the ads (much to their delight!. Chris Fulker and Paul Yaskowich cast covetous eyes at Heather's firm and
upright political stance while Steve McClure just couldn't stand it any more watching the way Gail Shaw worked on the long ones. Eric Eggertson moved in for a
closeup with his phallic telescopic lens while Stuart Davis totally satisfied the twisted needs of Glen Sanford. Anne Nickerson and Sally Cotter sniffed in disgust
at the scent of heat coming from page 4. "At least they didn't use the word 'fuck' or anything else objectionable," they said. "Oops," said Heather. And
everyone went to the party the address of which was on the blackboard.
Why we're here
It isn't a good year for media on Canadian campuses.
Every day we publish, there seems to be another story coming in over
the wires of our national news serice telling us of another student council
restricting, taking over or shutting down another student newspaper or
radio station.
This trend toward thinking of campus information services as businesses
that must make money or get out is most harmful to the students. Making
money is not the purpose of student societies.
But then, most student societies don't profit $100,000 a year from
students like ours does. And even they couldn't really get along without
free media outlets.
The Alma Mater Society exists in a perfect vacuum but for the efforts of
The Ubyssey and CITR to let the students know whaf s being done with
their money. As well, campus media provide news about a hundred different things which affect students, whether they affect your wallet, body,
mind or soul.
Without some way of getting the information to students, student
government may act, but it will act without true responsibility or accountability.
This is not even considering the actions of the provincial government's
ministry of universities, science and technology that are rarely fully
reported in the commercial press. Only newspapers serving students will
tell you about these things that government imposes on you.
We have been hearing that these issues of student housing, of inadequate student aid, of unnecessary fees and arrogant administrations, of a
student government that cares less about us than black ink, are
uninteresting and unimportant to students.
Could be. But we don't think that is at all desirable or that apathy is to be
simply accepted.
Nor do we accept the claims of some groups on campus that we are ignoring them or treating them at all different from others who come to us
for coverage of their events.
We should explain. We've been told we haven't done enough of that
For those who haven't noticed our announcements printed in The
Ubyssey, we will print any and all public announcements in the Tween
Classes section. When space is available, we will provide an amusing blurb
(newspaper talk for free advertisement) for those that have requested it.
We will print all letters we receive, with about the only exceptions being
those letters which are the ninth or more on any given subject or those
which are just too icky to print.
Some of you may have noticed there's very little we consider too icky to
As well, we have a column, Perspectives, for any member of the university community to provide typed, triple spaced (70 space line) articles
which we may decide to publish, depending on their interest value.
The rest is for the staff to tell you things that, as people who process a
lot of information a day, they think are important.
We hope your wallet is important to you.
Get a lot of rhythm with no blues
The other day I was glancing
through Insight '80 with an intent
to discover the popular trends in
campus contraception. I was pleased to see that ovulation methods
gained a mention this year, but I'm
disappointed by the very brief and
rather discouraging description.
At least one statement is perhaps
misleading: "This method of birth
control is used by people whose religious beliefs preclude the use of
other methods." While this statement is no doubt true, it somehow
Parking gripe
It has been said that just about
any old fool can run a university.
Just deal with problems associated
with athletics for the alumni, sex
for the students, and parking for
the faculty, and (so it is said) the
rest will take care of itself. But this
university is not run by any old
I don't know how our esteemed
administration is managing with the
thorny issues of athletics and sex,
but the President's parking policy is
preposterous. Why must perfectly
practical parking possibilities, like
the two rows of parking in front of
Wesbrook (on East Mall) that we
enjoyed during the summer, be
blocked off at the beginning of
term, just when we need them
Is it part of the $5 million
beautification scheme that this impoverished institution is indulging
Yagoddabee Jogin
suggests that those are the only people practising the ovulation method
(also known as natural birth control).
The mention of religion may also
bring to mind the traditional
rhythm method of birth control
with its accompanying high incidence of failure. Since the late
1950s natural birth control has
made great advances. A report by
the World Health Organization in
1967 found the strict temperature
method (requiring abstinence from
the end of your period until after
ovulation) to be 98.6 to 99.2 per
cent effective.
I am among those whose choose
natural birth control for reasons
other than religious ones. It does
not tamper with my natural cycle or
endanger my health. Nor do I run
the risk of reducing my chances of
conceiving at a later time.
To me natural birth control
makes sense. On certain days of my
cycle I am fertile. Therefore, if I do
not want to get pregnant I must determine when these fertile days occur and abstain from intercourse on
these days. I see no reason to pop a
pill, wear an IUD or diaphragm or
use a condom every day when I
need only protect myself from pregnancy for a portion (about 11 days)
of each cycle.
Natural birth control allows my
lover and I to take total responsibility for preventing pregnancy. We
are not dependent upon chemicals,
metals or man-made products. We
are in control of our bodies. We believe that by carefully observing and
charting the changes that occur in
my body during each cycle and by
abstaining during fertile times we
can prevent conception.
Natural birth control is exciting
because it allows me to make discoveries about my body. Two years
ago I didn't know it was possible to
determine when I ovulate. Now, by
looking at my temperature graph
and daily observing my cervical
mucous I usually know the day on
which ovulation occurred.
As I learn more about my body I
become more and more confident
that I can prevent pregnancy without the use of artificial aids and I
love that freedom.
While I love practising natural
birth control I recognize that it is
not for everyone, nor is it suitable
at all times of one's life. It is not a
method that you can choose to use
by yourself. It requires the commitment and cooperation of you and
your lover. It is not well suited to
casual sex.
Even if you do not plan to use natural birth control it's a delightful
means of finding out more about
how your body functions. And if
you think you might be interested in
practising this method in the future,
now may be a good time to begin
charting your cycles as it takes a
while to learn to recognize your fertile and infertile days.
More information about natural
birth control can be found in various books on the subject. Try Banyan or Ariel bookstores, both on
4th Avenue. I recommend "A Cooperative Method of Natural Birth
Control" by Margaret Nofziger.
Also, the Women's Health Collective has a good library and they
can give you names and phone
numbers of people who teach the
ovulation method. The address of
the Women's Health Collective
given in Insight '80 is incorrect. The
correct address is 1501 West Broadway.
Recently I discovered something
else which may be of interest to
many women. Ariel Bookstore is
selling an alternative to tampons —
natural silk sponges.
A sponge can be used like a tampon but instead of discarding it you
simply rinse it out and insert it
again. I find mine a delight to use
and once again health risks seem to
be reduced.
Jennifer Elliott
The Ubyssey welcomes letters
from all readers.
Especially those who type their
letters, triple-spaced, on a 70 space
typewriter line, because these are
the people who are most likely to
see their letters printed sometime
before next Durin's Day eve.
Pen names will be used when the
writer's real name is also included
for our information in the letter and
when valid reasons for anonymity
are given.
Although an effort is made to
publish all letters received, The
Ubyssey reserves the right to edit
letters for reasons of brevity, legality and taste.
Neatness counts. Thursday, September 25,1980
Page 5
Catch 22' snares rape victims
Most Canadians are unaware of an astonishing event that has taken place recently in
this country, and which affects the safety of
51 per cent of the population.
I refer to the dangerous precedent which
has been established in Canada by the Regina
vs. Pappajohn rape case. Although the Supreme Court upheld the conviction of rapist
George Pappajohn, a decision was taken
which is nothing short of incredible, and
which poses a grave danger to all Canadian
The Supreme Court of Canada judges, all
male, who heard Pappajohn's appeal against
conviction, agreed that if an accused rapist
claims he honestly believed the woman consented to sex, then he need not provide any
reasonable grounds for his belief. In other
words, the would-be rapist can feel free to ignore his victim's begging for mercy, screams
or kicks.
All he need say is that, in spite of all the
woman's protests, he honestly believed it was
okay — and he need not provide any grounds
outlining why he believed it was okay!
The origin of this incredible line of defence
for accused rapists is the 1975 DPP vs.
Morgan case in the United Kingdom, where
the British House of Lords decided (against
bitter protests from women's groups and
even from male lawyers) that a man accused
of rape need not provide reasonable grounds
for his professed belief that a woman had
consented to sexual intercourse.
In the Morgan case a woman had been raped by three men at the invitation of her husband. He had told the rapists that his wife
would scream and cry, but that was only
play-acting; in reality she liked it. Consequently, although the woman cried and begged the men to leave her alone, she was
At the trial, the rapists used the husband's
invitation at their defence, and this defence
was eventually accepted. The evidence of the
victim —■ that she had screamed and resisted
— waa apparently considered to be of less importance.
Shortly after the Morgan decision was
handed down, a man who had already been
convicted of rape had his conviction overturned as a result of the Lords' decision. His
defence was that as a result of a conversation
with the victim's husband, he too believed
she was consenting, even though at the time
of the rape the woman herself was crying and
asking to be left alone. In this case also, the
husband had invited another man to rape his
In other words, because of the Lords' decision, a woman in England in 1975 lost all
say in whether any attention should be paid
to her protests that she did not want to be
raped. A man's opinion — whether that man
was her husband or a stranger — was considered to carry more weight than anything she
could say or do.
Pappajohn quoted the Morgan decision,
and although he lost his appeal, the Supreme
Court decided to adopt the Morgan decision
that a rapist need not have reasonable
grounds for his belief that a woman was inviting him to have sexual intercourse.
Victims of rapists have two choices: to
physically resist the attacker, with the risk
that this will provoke him to use greater force
which may result in her death; or to accept
the degradation, physical damage and emotional anguish of a rape.
As most women in Canada know, women
have been advised by police and Rape Crisis
Centres not to resist strenuously if they are
attacked. Women are told to run away if it is
possible; they can beg, they can cry, they can
scream, but if all these fail, society tells
women it is better that they should submit to
rape than that they should be murdered.
However, society assures women that if he
is caught, the rapist will be punished for his
crime. Yet if women accept rape instead of
murder, this very acquiescence can be used
against them by the rapist's lawyers, who will
ask, "If you truly did not want to be raped,
why did you not fight back?" (thus insinuating the woman did, in fact, desire sexual intercourse).
It is a Catch 22 situation. Women are murdered if they do fight back, and they are
damned by the courts if they do not. It is well
known that it has always been extremely difficult for a woman to prove rape. Now, with
the Pappajohn decision, it appears women
can lose all legal recourse altogether. All the
rapist need say is that he honestly believed
the woman consented to sex, in spite of his
having no reasonable grounds for believing
One may ask, "If a rapist is legally entitled
to ignore a woman's screams and protests,
what can a woman do to make it absolutely
clear she objects to being raped?" The answer to this, since the Pappajohn decision, is
— nothing. Whatever she says is going to be
punishment depending on the sex of the victim? This question must be answered!
Readers will note that in both the Morgan
and the Cogan cases, a husband had invited
men to rape his wife, which apparently was
enough to throw charges of rape out of
court. Once again, as in previous centuries, a
wife was reduced to the position of chattel, to
be loaned out by her husband in the same
ignored, whatever she does is going to be ignored, whatever she screams is going to be ignored. The honest belief of the rapist will be
considered more important than all her kicking and screaming. The precedent-setting
Pappajohn decision represents carte blanche
for rapists.
Incredible? Yes. Unjust? Yes. Insane? Yes.
But it is really happening.
Women would like to ask: In what other
criminal situation is the honest belief of the
criminal taken into account?
Suppose you return home and catch a
burglar stealing all your silver. You fight for
your property — you kick and scream — but
he escapes. Later, he is caught. Would any
lawyer, judge or jury give serious consideration to the thief s defence if he pleaded that,
in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, he
honestly believed you did not mind his taking
your property?
Such an excuse would be laughed out of
court. Let us take another situation.
A man is returning home after an evening
out, when he is set upon and beaten up by a
stranger who gets a thrill out of doing that
particular kind of thing. The man struggles
and fights back. Later, the stranger is arrested. He uses as his defence the plea that while
it was true the man had resisted his attack, he
nevertheless honestly believed, without having reasonable grounds for that belief, that
the man in truth enjoyed being physically assaulted. Such a defence would be swept aside
with contempt.
Yet this defence is being taken seriously
when the attack is against a woman. Why?
Why are women being treated with less
Let us explore further. The scene is a
prison rape, with a young male prisoner being sexually attacked by three other prisoners. He yells and kicks — it is useless. He is
raped. What we women want to know is —
can these rapists use the defence that they
honestly believed the young prisoner was
consenting to sex, although they had no reasonable grounds for their belief?
Will male victims receive the same treatment from the courts as female rape victims?
Or will male victims continue to receive the
protection of the pre-precedent law? Will
there be two different levels of justice in Canada for rape victims of the future, with the
way that he might loan out his car. And it is
this Morgan precedent that our own Canadian judges have accepted as being fair and
just, and on which they based their Pappajohn decision.
One does not have to think very hard before one can envisage the future. The Pappajohn decision has given rapists a golden excuse for rape, and this line of defence most
certainly will be used — how could a rapist
turn such a chance down? It is too good to be
true. And this at a time when the crime of
rape is on the increase!
This dangerous Pappajohn precedent has
spurred Svend Robinson, MP for Burnaby to
bring in a private member's bill to amend the
Criminal Code, so that accused rapists will
not have available to them the defence of
"honest belief in consent, without reasonable
grounds for that belief."
He also wants rape removed from the
classification of sexual offence, and reclassified as a crime of violent physical assault,
which definition more accurately reflects the
crime of rape. It is up to all concerned Canadians to support him, regardless of party affiliations.
Knowing how busy everyone is today, and
also that many people have difficulty expressing their thoughts on paper, the North Shore
Women's Centre has prepared a form letter
for all concerned Canadians, both male and
female, to sign. The steps to follow are as
To the Hon. Svend Robinson, M.P.,
House of Commons, Ottawa, Ont. K1A
0A6. Dear Mr. Robinson, We support the
private member's bill you are presenting this
fall, in which you will attempt to have the
Criminal Code amended so that accused rapists will not have available to them the defence of "honest belief without reasonable
grounds" as decided by the Supreme Court
in the recent Pappajohn rape trial. We also*
demand that the crime of rape be reclassified
as a crime of violent, physical assault. We
call on all Members of Parliament to support
your bill. (Signed.)
Obtain as many signatures (not printed)
and addresses as possible, and forward them
to Robinson. If you have access to a photostat machine, take three more copies of your
letter and forward them to Jean Chretien,
minister for justice, Lloyd Axworthy, minister for the status of women, and your own
MP respectively.
A bother and a drag? Of course it is. But
we are talking about the safety of your
sisters, your mothers, your daughters, your
friends, both young and old. The matter is
urgent. Surely people can afford 30 minutes
to make sure such an injustice is never allowed to become a permanent part of Canadian law? If it does, we will only have our
own apathy to blame.
It is a disgrace that Canadians should be
forced to write even one such letter — but
write we must. Mail strike or no mail strike,
Jancia Andrews
mail those letters to Robinson. He will receive them eventually.
The Canadian public must make its legislators understand that an injustice like this
cannot be tolerated. Canada does not have to
import the blind mistakes of the British
House of Lords, or have to accept the blind
actions of the Supreme Court. Justice Dickson, one of the Supreme Court judges, made
a very confused statement. He said: ". . .the
crime of rape involves an act — sexual intercourse — which is not itself either criminal or
unlawful and can indeed be both desirable
and pleasurable." It is frightening to suspect
that those who administer justice in our
courts have not kept up with the latest studies
on rape. Psychologists and psychiatrists have
proved beyond any doubt that the crime of
rape does not involve sexual lust — rather, it
is an act which uses sex in order to terrify,
humiliate and subjugate the victim. In other
words, it is the worst sort of power trip. The
Supreme Court judges apparently do not
know that one of the characteristics that rapists have in common is their hatred and contempt for women.
Show this article around. It is alarming to
think that this decision is slipping quietly into
Canadian law without any prior discussion
with that -very group it most affects — the
women of Canada. Get those signatures. If
this piece of legislation is allowed to stay on
the lawbooks, it will be this century's darkest
day for Canadian justice.
-uri W'eWIe Page 6
Thursday, September 25,1980
Separatism seeds skepticism
On Sept. 12 there appeared an article entitled "Utopia comes with
separation." It argues that British
Columbia should separate from the
confederation of Canada, and that
it has enough essential
characteristics to constitute an independent state.
If the arguments used in the article are indicative of what most
western separatists believe, they
have serious ideological problems
William Clark
which are not easily solved. From a
close reading of the essay, Chris
Fulker's position turns out to be
rather pig-headed, ignorant and
prejudicial. It is a shame that the
legitimate claims of the West are
distorted by such rhetorical claims
about western separation.
One of the most common complaints about being Canadian is that
we lack identity; therefore it seems
incredibly absurd to say that B.C.
has enough independent character
to constitute a state in more than
mere economic terms. It appears
that the author thinks that the
origins of western separation are
not just economic, but that
westerners have a very different way
of looking at the world and civilization.
Let us look at some of the claims
of the western separatist movement.
It is argued that B.C. is ripped off
by the federal government in the
form of taxation (including
resources) and import duty.
Well, in what sense do the people
of B.C. own resources? In the sense
that an American company would,
or in the sense of being members of
a democratic community? If it is the
latter, then we are in trouble.
The whole is necessarily greater
than the sum of the parts; then, it is
Canadians who own the resources
and not the provinces. The provinces may have the rights to exploration but not ownership in the
full sense of the word. Import duty
protects industry throughout
Other complaints about the
federal government can be equated
with racist tendencies. Too many
foreigners are being let into Canada
and they all want to come to B.C.
Only if B.C. was a nation could it
restrict the flow of "imports" and
thus stop the rise of the Chinese
"problem." Also as B.C. is so
"beautiful" everyone in Canada
would be here. If this were true, no
problem would exist as B.C. would
have the majority of Canada's
The author complains about bilingualism. If he is serious he has less
knowledge about the world than my
dog. She knows that the world is
not unilingual and that the more we
know and use other languages and
the people who speak them, the
greater benefit for Canadians — in
an educative and cultural sense.
Complaints about metrification
are equally unfounded as the rest of
the world, for all intents and purposes, is using the metric system.
The other side of the coin is that
B.C. has everything to gain and
nothing to lose by separating. The
author implies that the standard of
living in B.C. is dropping because
we are members of Canada, and
that if we were to separate, our
standard of living would rise. He
fails to realize that the whole
western world is no longer as
wealthy as it was; that inflation is
not a local issue but an international one.
But if the author is right, then
what happens? B.C. becomes fantastically wealthy, and can leave the
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I certainly found Al Soroka's letter rallying the prols quite amusing.
In light of the invasion of Afghanistan, Cambodian genocide and a
lot of other fraternal pranks by assorted communist cutups it certainly was funny of Al only to mention
only fascist violence. Just about as
funny as there being no Muslims or
Asians on the Russian politburo.
Oh well my Congrats to Al and his
comic views. I hope the "Committee Against Racism and Fascist Violence" cuts a record soon.
M. Holland
law 1
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rest of the world behind. Who cares
about injustice, peace, and kindness
anyway? This wealth shall enable us
to buy any physical pleasure we
choose to enjoy.
ty." I might be an idiot who thinks
that there is more to life than sensual pleasure. If we are, as some
would suggest, totally dependent
upon economics then the question
This type of attitude is ingrained
with selfishness, greed and envy. It
disregards the most important
things which are essential to lead a
complete life, such as love, kindness, brotherhood, respect, humility and concern.
It is a world which reduces all
things to materials and does not
care for such things as the good, the
spirit and God. There is no concern
for our children (other than in the
sense that they are wealthy), or for
the future of the world and humanity.
It is very possible that these are
only the naive statements of a babbling fool who refuses to see "reali-
of whether B.C. is a part of Canada
or not is totally irrelevant for the
simple reason that life itself is
meaningless in the long run. That
is, my friends, at least to me, a horrifying thought.
So far, I have not given any
reason why B.C. should continue to
be a member of what we call
Canada. That is not my intention.
It is simply to see what the reasons
for separation are, and if these are
good reasons. The reasons given by
the author of "Utopia ..." are,
in my estimation, invalid.
As members of Canada we constitute something very special. We
have an equality of nationality
which can not be found in any other
western nation. This can not be said
to be a bad thing; it is a moral duty
which I believe to be good. We
allow immigrants to preserve at
least some of their traditions, and
we let them feel proud about them.
Utopia shall never be achieved
through wealth, but only through
understanding. British Columbia
separatists lack any understanding
except how to make money and
how to steal. Do we really care to
live in an Epicurean hell, a place
where we can only find stimulation
of the senses? Let us, as Canadians,
say what we want to do together; let
us not be moved by selfishness and
greed; let us at least try.
Perhaps one thing the author said
was right. Canada is a compromise
of a country; but who is to say that
that in itself is not a very good and
special thing?
William Clark is a third year arts
student providing yet another in a
series of students' opinions on the
structure of our nation. Readers are
reminded their country is being
formed right now in a way rare for
any nation at any time.
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Page 7
Megabanks and your minibucks
Canadian University Press
Most students support the megabanks — those banks that are tops
in the profit-making business — for
the sake of convenience and necessity. But banks not only handle
your money, they're skilled at making it too.
Banks work this way: They take
in money — your deposits — then
put it back out again in the way of
loans. You are paid interest for letting the bank use your money, and
the bank takes interest from the
people who are using your money
(in the form of loans).
The difference between the interest the bank takes in and the interest
rate the bank pays you belongs to
the bank. Whatever is left over after
the bank pays its expenses is profit.
In a recent article in the Vancouver Sun, Walter Stewart noted that
these days the profits of each of the
Big Five — the Royal Bank, the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce, the Bank of Montreal, the
Bank of Nova Scotia, and the Toronto Dominion Bank — run higher
than those of Imperial Oil.
That's not surprising because the
Royal, to take the biggest of these
financial institutions, is ten-and-a-
half times bigger than Imperial Oil,
and has three-and-a-half times the
assets of the Bank of Canada.
As a group, the Big Five control
90 per cent of the money market in
Canada. The smallest bank among
them, the Toronto Dominion, is
larger than any other corporation in
the country. But maybe the most incredulous of Stewart's revelations is
that these banks pay taxes at an
average rate of 18 per cent — that's
the same rate as a person making
$15,000 a year.
It is also interesting to note that
the Big Five are notorious for keeping their employees from organizing
unions. The Canadian Imperial
Bank of Commerce had its knuckles
rapped last year for violating labor
laws by freezing wages at banks
where there was a "union
presence." The Bank of Commerce, along with the Royal and the
Bank of Montreal, have been cited
on previous occasions for unfair labor practises.
What else? At the Bank of Montreal's annual meetings, it has almost
become a tradition for a handful of
shareholders to object to the bank's
policies regarding loans to South
Africa and Chile.
More bad news: A survey conducted by the Canadian Civil Liberties Association last year found
that banks discriminated against
native populations in three Northern Ontario communities.
Despite a native population of
14,000 in the area of Sault Ste.
Marie, Fort Francis and Kenora,
for example, the chances of finding
a native person behind the teller's
wicket in any one of the towns' 29
bunks is practically zero.
And now for the other side. The
Big Five are rated among the 50
largest banks in the world. They are
alone among world-sized Canadian
industries. Canadian development
companies attribute their success in
the United States to backing from
the Big Five. These banks bring in
foreign funds and earn foreign exchange.
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So what if, as many bank critics
claim, they display all the characteristics of oligopones. (For those of
us who haven't taken Economics
100 yet, an oligopoly means a few
so-called rival firms dominate the
market, and rather than being competitors they are interdependent.
As a Globe and Mail editorial
puts it, "There has been too little
recognition that the banks are in
business, like all other businesses,
to make a buck, and are not entitled
to be lofty about it. Their job is to
serve the customer."
But the business of making a
buck, unfortunately, sometimes
conflicts with the business of serving the public. Banks, for example,
compete for customers not by offering better interest rates, but by offering instant money machine gimmicks through slick advertising
Considering their shortcomings,
it is unfortunate that there are so
few alternatives to banks — short
of stuffing all your summer earnings in an old mattress.
As the underdog of the financial
world, credit unions are often overshadowed by their banking counterparts. But a closer look reveals they
are a viable alternative to banks.
A credit union differs from a
bank in terms of service and policy.
The slick multi-million dollar advertising campaigns of banks promise
instant money machines and computerized, sometimes impersonal
banking. The corner credit union,
however, emphasizes consumer
protection and education without a
compulsion to make the biggest
profit possible.
A credit union is owned and operated by its members — it's a coop. Everyone who deals with a
credit union is a shareholder, entitled to vote at annual meetings; one
member, one vote.
Membership in a credit union is
restricted by a bond of association,
the group for whom a credit union
is organized. For example, the Ottawa Community credit Union is restricted to people who live or work
in Ottawa-Hull.
The principles of the credit union
are service rather than profit, limited ownership, and democratic
control. It is run by the members,
for the members.
A credit union is run the same
way as a bank: members put their
money into the credit union, and
the credit union uses the money to
make low-cost loans to other members. Any profit left after expenses
is paid back to members in the form
of dividends on their shares.
Making the dollars last as long as
the university year is a challenge for
any student. Where to keep those
dollars is part of the challenge.
These days you practically need a
computer to keep track of all the
different types of accounts financial
institutions offer. Check the services you use most often and find
the financial institution that will
provide them free or cheaply, while
at the same time give the highest interest rate on your savings. For
most students that means having
two accounts; a savings account to
get the highest rate of interest; and
a separate chequing account for
paying bills.
Paying your bills is usually
cheaper at the bank; otherwise, it
costs the price of a cheque plus the
price of a stamp.
If you write a lot of cheques, but
don't always have enough money in
your account to cover them, you
should consider opening an account
at a bank or credit union where the
cost of NSF (not sufficient funds)
cheques is low.
A true savings account is a good
way to collect a high rate of interest
on your money. On this type of account you get a passbook to keep
track of deposits and withdrawals,
but no cheques can be written on
the account.
A daily interest savings account
collects a lower rate of interest than
a true savings account, but the interest is calculated every day rather
than once a month. It's a good deal
if the money in your account tends
to go from feast to famine a lot.
A chequing account is what you
need if you have bills to pay or large
purchases to make. Because chequing accounts usually don't pay any
interest, it's wise to put just enough
money in this account to cover the
cheques you write. If possible, get a
chequing account at a bank or
credit union that doesn't charge for
One of the newest chequing services is the daily interest chequing
account. The advantage of this account is that you can make interest
while your money sits in your chequing account — but it's only three
per cent. Most banks require a large
minimum balance unfortunately,
and the cheques are expensive.
At first glance a combined chequing/savings account looks like a
good idea — it's easier than keeping
two accounts. But the low rate of
interest and the high cost of cheques
make this account one to pass by
for most students.
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Submit your application to Marlea Haugen in SUB 240. Deadline: Friday,
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Four (4) Judges
Two (2) Alternate Judges
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Applications are available in SUB 238. Submit them to Marlea Haugen in
SUB 240. Deadline: Friday, Oct. 10, 1980 by 4:30 p.m. Page 8
Thursday, September 25,1980
SFU food worse
Upon coming out to UBC to do
some reading, I chanced to look at
your paper for the first time this
year and was surprised to note that
there are those among you that do
not like the food served in the AMS
building. To those people I would
like to say, "Thank your lucky
stars!" If these fine souls want to
know what swill is, they should trot
up Burnaby Mountain to that bastion of gastronomic horror, SFU.
With the exception of the student
pub (which only serves sandwiches,
anyway), one catering firm has a
complete monopoly on food services here. I refer to them as the
B.C. Tel of food, because the similarities are incredible; their quality,
service and prices are on a par with
Tel. How would any of you like to
pay $2.95 (that's $2.95, folks) for a
small dish of beef stroganoff made
with beef that's about three grades
below stewing beef? How about a
plain hamburger with the texture of
cat food for $1.05? And that's just
the beginning!
I come out to UBC fairly regularly and look forward to eating in
the AMS cafeteria (you heard me).
At least there one can find a real
variety of things to eat and drink.
(Perrier. They actually have Per-
rier.) Even the vegetables have some
real texture, some crisp and fresh
flavor. I'm telling you, for an institutional catering service, the AMS
does pretty darn good.
Thanks for listening to me. Don't
cry too hard over your Shrum Bowl
loss this year.
Lawrence R. Hale
student senator
Simon Fraser University
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'Write your MP'
Exactly one month ago, more
than 700 concerned British Columbians demonstrated at the missile
base at Comox to commemorate
Nagasaki Day, the 35th anniversary
of the dropping of the atom bomb
on that city, and to urge the removal of the missiles.
Prime minister Trudeau pledged
to remove them at the United Nations Special Session on Disarmament in 1978; McKinnon of the late
Conservative government stated
they would be removed in 1983. In
July Trudeau confirmed that they
would be removed in 1983.
Since both major parties agreed
on the removal of the missiles, obviously they do not consider them
essential to our security. We wanted
to ask them, at the rally, why they
should not be removed immediately
but representatives of the Liberal
and Conservative parties did not respond to invitations to speak.
Neither did the New Democratic
Party — we would like to know
what their policy is on the missiles
and on nuclear arms in general.
The removal of the missiles was
to be the beginning of a major disarmament effort on the part of the
government and as such is a symbol
of the sincerity of their intentions.
The Throne Speech announced that
an ambassador for disarmament
would be appointed but so far none
has been named.
While we wait, the tense international situation threatens us all. A
significant move in the direction of
disarmament  by  our  government
might have world-wide effects in reducing the tension.
We suggest that readers write to
their Members of Parliament, whether members of the government or
opposition parties, as we have
done, urging them to raise this matter in the House of Commons and
in the external affairs committee at
the earliest opportunity.
We do not want to have missiles
still there on Nov. 9 when we commemorate the first anniversary of
the false alert in 1979 which might
have  triggered  the  Third   World
Edith Adamson
Victoria Coalition for Disarmament
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Thursday, September 25,1980
'Tween classes
Shafa vagetarian lunch, 11 a.m. to 2 p.m., HMat
Dr. P. Doaaa apaaka on "Islam in a modem context," noon, SUB 119.
Organizational  meeting  and firat gathering  of
proepective  amateur  radio  operators,   noon.
Brock 368.
First general meeting, open to all, noon, SUB
Or. Jamie Smith M.D., speaks on "The reta-
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Terry Anderson apaeks on ethics and the prob
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Square dance, 7 p.m., Gage Maclnnes lounge.
General meeting and social evening, 7 p.m.,
SUB 212.
General meeting for anyone interested in the establishment of aviation museum and archives in
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p.m., Richmond Arts Centre.
Deadens for registering in the women's ice
hockey program. War Memorial gym 203.
Organizational meeting, noon, Buch. 12S6.
Hoedown wfth square dancing, 8 p.m., Lutheran
Campus Centra.
Wine and cheese party. 7:30 p.m., SUB 212.
Gym night, 8:30-I0-J0 pjn., gym A.
Baroque dance deaa, 7 p.m., SUB 207/208.
Worship with Eucharist, 9:30 end 11 a.m.,
Lutheran Centre.
Roman Catholic Lutheran dialogue, "Exploring
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you've just let loose a couple of
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cool and you're not concerned
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wielding a sledge hammer. Without
a word he demolishes your guitar,
Hot flashes
your amplifier and your left foot.
If this decreasing tale describes a
situation you're familiar whti, a naw
club is being formed just for you.
Ifs called Rockers Co-op and is being formed to allow campus musicians to meet, exchange ideas, and
obtain adequate practice space on
If enough people we interested,
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you need. Contact Mark or Roman
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There can be no masking the
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"Social science and human nature"
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On Friday the lecture series will
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"Economic man and original sin,"
at the same time, same place.
More tomorrow
Jeremy Boultbee, a free-lance
journalist specializing in the problems of third world countries, will
speak to all interested students at
noon Friday. Much to our dismay,
there's not enough room in this column to print just where he'll do the
speaking, but look for the answer in
tomorrow's edition of 'Hot
Science students arise! SUS needs your
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To alleviate this we are holding a fee levy
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Dirty ditty 'last straw'
Over the years we have grown accustomed to the garbage that appears in The Ubyssey and have
come to accept it as a fact of life
stemming from the obviously limit-
SA C solicits
There is an opening on the student administrative commission, a
body of 10 appointed students that
decides on clubs, SUB bookings
policy, club grants, etc. Members
are selected for their administrative
(not for political) abilities. Total
time commitment is small, and is a
good way to get involved without
having to go through an election.
If you have always had that deep-
seated desire to become a genuine
AMS "hack," or you are new to
campus and want to get involved in
student government, then you
should consider applying for SAC.
Anyone interested should contact
me in SUB 254 (228-3961) Thursday
2:30 to 4:30 p.m. or Friday 1 to 3
p.m. Craig Brooks
director of administration
    chair, SAC
ed mental capacity of this paper's
We did not realize, however, the
severity of this handicap until we
happened to glance at the fine print
under the section entitled The
Ubyssey on page four (Sept. 23).
We find this to be not only a
totally useless waste of space and
words, but absolutely disgusting.
We had thought that by the time
people reached the university level,
they had stopped stooping to such
immature nonsense but apparently
we were mistaken.
Your detailed paragraph on the
sexual mayhem that occurs in your
office only confirms our longstanding belief that The Ubyssey is
a total waste of students' time and
money, that is, as long as people
like you continue to run it.
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A logical look at the church cult
Once again, Clubs Day brought home to:
me the zeal of religious sects on campus. Ever
since I came to UBC, the question has puzzled me why so many students, some of them
undoubtedly intelligent, can be sold on the
hypothesis of God.
From talks with young Christians I
gathered that it was most often the promise
of a social support group that drove them into the religious camp. Without their congregation, for many this university would be
a lonely, cold and hostile place.
But tempting as it is to purchase companionship through some partisan religious
commitment, the friends one makes do not
justify the dogmas one must take into the
bargain. It is fair to say, I think, that Christians generally conceive of "God" as a personal and benevolent creator, infinite, immaterial, immutable and immortal, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent.
I have come to reject this God-idea on five
grounds: that it is largely unintelligible, unsupported by evidence and partly contrary to
it, partly self-contradictory and wholly non-
explanatory. Christianity, to anyone who
dispassionately considers the arguments
against it, is a clearly refutable and refuted
While I cannot, in one brief page, both
state the religious position and demolish it,
the relevant philosophical literature is easily
accessible to honest seekers after truth.
Every thinking person, even among
Catholics, will have to admit that so-called
"proofs of God" are all, without exception,
riddled with fallacies. Many believers,
however, pride themselves on faith.
To them, the failure to find evidence for
God simply shows that religious belief need
not be based on evidence. Thus, the emotional intensity with which a belief is held
becomes its sole justification, and predictably, whenever in history a whole country
subscribed to the same brand of Christianity,
fanatical bigotry ruled public life and
dissenters were exterminated.
"Faith" is the flagrant contempt for
reasons against a belief which one has accepted on authority. Most Christians, indoctrinated as children, feel psychologically
comfortable with religion and are blind to inconsistencies.
To give an example: No religious
apologist, by any stretch of the imagination,
has ever been able to reconcile the concept of
a good Creator with a creation so permeated
by evil. Indeed, the attempt to reconcile a
perfectly good, loving Creator with a world
full of undeserved suffering — a world
where, right now, 700 million children suffer
from starvation — is an outrageous, heartless
Even if there were a God who created the
world and all the misery it it, I find it hard to
understand why any sane person should consider him worthy of worship. Stendhal was
right when he said: "God's only excuse is
that he does not exist."
Many Christians argue, that, since their
belief makes them happy, they have a right to
it. But if religion is justified simply by making adherents feel better, then, by the same
argument, anything is justified that makes
anyone feel better. Along with religion, this
argument sanctions every other kind of self-
deception and justifies everyone who calls
truth whatever he pleases.
Of course, people believe in religions, not
because they seek truth, but because they
need a crutch to live. Is religion an effective
crutch? I concede that an unhappy life may
be easier to endure if one envisages some
ulterior purpose and reward.
Individuals who claim that religion is their
support in life, their source of hope and joy,
can hardly be refuted, but clearly, the
strength of their beliefs is rooted in low vitality. Anyone can see that the consolations of
faith are not proofs that God exists, but just
motives for wishing that he did.
While self-deception makes life bearable in
some cases, I have serious doubts, however,
that it generally makes people happier.
Human  beings,  to  the  degree  that  they
possess reason, cannot be fully happy unless
their beliefs are consistent with reason.
History, as well as psychology, shows that
self-deception, like any neurotic defense
mechanism, may bring short-term relief, but
almost always causes harm in the long run —
immense harm to the individual and to the
whole society.
I can only begin, here, to point out the appalling record of churches. God knows — if
he exists — that his name has inspired
countless atrocious wars, witchhunts, colonialism, suppression of science, discrimination against women and so forth, ad
Christians killed each other off for
disagreeing on the finer points of the Trinity.
Christian clergymen consecrated the cannons
on both sides in both world wars. Up to the
cult's fraudulence, we seem to have forgotten
the blood-stained history of all great churches, especially the Catholic Church which,
between the 14th and 17th century, burned
millions of "witches" and "heretics" at the
Let there be no mistake: The existing
religions justify, by their example, even the
bizarrest kind of superstition. With their doctrines, the world's great churches are on no
better grounds than the obscurest of cults.
There is absolutely not a shred of evidence
that the Bible is more than an ancient story
collection, and not the faintest rational basis
for accepting the divinity of some itinerant
Jewish preacher, whose doings cannot be
disentangled from the myths woven around
Evidentally, most of his contemporaries
19th century, Christian churches were among
the staunchest defenders of the slave trade,
which the Old Testament repeatedly sanctions.
Under Christianity, mental disease used to
be treated with torture to exorcise "evil
spirits." Jesus allegedly preached the virtue
of poverty, and yet the Catholic Church grew
rich through simony — charging confes-
sioners money for absolutions and selling
church offices including the papacy.
A figment of the religious imagination that
has been done immeasurable harm is the doctrine of sin. Church fathers have spread the
doctrine that sex, even in marriage, was wicked as soon as there was pleasure mixed in.
Even today, religious hang-ups are known to
be a major cause of sexual dysfunctions.
It is also common practice to implant in a
child, before it develops critical faculties, the
concept of "sin" and "hellfire," and to
forestall religious doubts by branding them
the most deadly sin — a practice almost certain to throw many reflective adolescents into
inner conflicts.
Children are threatened with eternal
punishment for harmless pranks and, during
the most formative years, are subjected to the
ritual of self-abasement, forced to accuse
themselves of sinning, which often leaves
them with little self-esteem in life.
(Although churches have downplayed the
doctrine of hell in recent decades, it remains
instrumental for the belief in Jesus as a
saviour — for if there is no hell, there is
nothing for him to save us from.)
When we were shocked last year that an
American cult leader could persuade hundreds of his followers to commit suicide, and
take this insane act as obvious proof of the
saw nothing divine in him; and in wake of
modern scholarship the Bible remains sadly
destitute of authenticity even to Christian
Indeed, it takes a colossal desire for self-
delusion to believe that God, with infinite
resources at his disposal, would choose as his
medium of communication some scrolls
covered with Greek and Hebrew characters,
which almost nobody can read and which
those who can interpret in a thousand different ways.
Ask yourself: Would a supreme being, if it
existed and if it cared that we know it exists,
fail to make its presence known in some un-
mistakeable way?
On the one hand, God neglects to communicate clearly what he wants from us; on
the other we are told we'll go to hell if we
don't do what he wants. Therefore, if God is
conceived as moral lawgiver, benevolent and
omnipotent, his cruel neglect to communicate his law worldwide, unequivocally
and convincingly, must be taken as powerful
evidence against his existence.
"But without fear of a divine judge,"
believers object, "most people cannot be
trusted to behave in a morally responsible
way." We atheists can reply that a miscellany
of arbitrary doctrines which most people,
even in our society, already disbelieve is
useless as a basis for morality.
"On the contrary, it creates strife among
those who believe conflicting moral absolutes, and reckless moral cynicism among
those who disbelieve. Clearly, since the
various world religions are irreconcilable, we
cannot build a world order acceptable to all
on a religious basis.
Especially in an age like ours, when there is
need for drastic measures to reduce world
population, humanity's future is endangered,
not only by nuclear bombs, but equally by
religious sentimentalism as to the sanctity of
motherhood — and fatalistic trust in God's
Last week on Clubs Day, when I talked to
the "Christians on Campus" about the need
for birth control, they readily admitted the
disastrous environmental consequences of
overpopulation — and then concluded: "But
you see, once the whole environment is
destroyed, God will simply sweep this world
into a dust-bin and create a new one."
Mothers with half a dozen children or
more are told that birth control is wicked,
although throughout the world human
misery multiplies with human numbers. In
Latin America, where countless millions are
undernourished, Roman Catholicism is in
large part to blame for the fastest population
increase of any continent.
No part of religion does more harm than
the belief that the fate of humanity rests
ultimately in the hands of a loving God who,
through earthly suffering, wants to make us
worthy of celestial rewards.
When I hear of churches opposing abortions and contraception, in an overpopulated
world where 2 billion people suffer from
malnutrition already, I sometimes think they
deliberately want to help Armageddon along
a bit, so as to speed up the Day of Judgement
— their great distribution of rewards!
Even in Canada today, many people again
stake and make fortunes on promises of
everlasting life. Although scores of
denominations make monopoly claims to
truth, keeping each other's bigotry somewhat
in check, the influence of churches has grown
alarmingly in recent years and encroached
upon individual rights, as, for example,
ready access to abortions. And religious sentimentalists continue to advocate the
madness of food shipments to overpopulated
countries, as well as open-door immigration
While atheists cannot deter believers from
wishful thinking, except through reason, I
think we should vigorously oppose their influence on public life. They may stick to their
moral code and dream their pipe dreams of
heavenly rewards, but let the rest of us enjoy
life free from obsessions with sin and guilt —
free from the arbitrary morality of minds
befogged by superstition.
Therefore, wherever churches peddle their
lies, we atheists should not remain silent and
unconcerned. If we let peoople of every persuasion have their say, even intolerant people
like fascists, separatists and religionists, only
the strong and sane voice of atheism can
counter a new wave of repression.
Unfortunately, religious belief inspires
crusades much more readily than the
freedom from it, and though probably the
larger number of UBC students are atheists
or agnostics, few of them can be bothered to
speak out. But I feel we should not fear to expose religion as the shoddy hocus-pocus it is.
We should encourage people to break free
from the tyranny of superstition, especially
intelligent people whose religion is already a
shaky thing and liable to collapse — if we only confront them with its absurdity. We
should warn young people against the propaganda of churches and make them aware
of their fraudulent scheme: the fraud of
capitalizing, with empty promises, on eager
human hopes. And we should object to many
churches and theological colleges that occupy
university land — object to the university
making organized nonsense-worship look
One of the things a university education
ought to accomplish, surely, is to rid a person
of childhood superstitions by making him or
her think critically. University is supposed to
be a place to examine's one's values, beliefs
and aspirations, a place to discard what is
worthless, to pursue new lines of thought,
and to discover worthwhile goals and causes.
Religion is clearly not a worthwhile cause.
Committed to the unexamined life, believers
place themselves beyond the reach of meaningful communication, into a state of self-
deluded torpor.
Perspectives is a column of analysis and
opinion open to members of the university
community other than the staff of The
Ubyssey. Articles of topical importance are
gladly accepted to be considered for publication when typed triple-spaced on a 70-space
line. The Ubyssey staff reserves the right to
refuse publication.


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