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Array Brass get unwanted raise
The UBC administration brass
received a pay increase this year
of about $2,400 each, although they
asked not to be given one.
After a series of closed meetings,
the UBC board of governors voted
unanimously to give administration president Doug
Kenny an increase on his $60,000
salary and to give his four vice-
presidents an increase on their
salaries of $54,800, board chairman
Thomas Dohm  said Wednesday.
Board members contacted
Wednesday estimated the raise
was about $2,400.
Rick Murray, student member of
the board, said the increase was
the largest allowed according to
federal wage and price controls.
And board member George
Morfitt, an accountant, said, "I'm
90 per cent sure the increase was in
the neighborhood of $2,400. That's
about eight per cent of $30,000,
which is the guideline set by the
Anti-Inflation Board."
Kenny said Wednesday he asked
no increase be given to himself or
the vice-presidents because of the
shortage of university funds.
"I recommended to the board
that there be no salary increases
for myself and the vice-presidents
due to restraints within the
Murray said "the board of
governors felt the only way we had
of showing our appreciation for all
they've done was to give them a
And lawyer Thomas Dohm said,
"It's a matter of policy. We must
be consistent with the cost of
living. Everyone else wants one
(an increase), so we thought these
people should get one too."
But economics professor Gideon
Rosenbluth was confused. "I'm not
sure that you're right. I can't
remember whether it was
discussed in the closed or open
part, or whether I was present at
the meeting.
"Mr. Dohm must have
recollected wrongly. You're just
plain wrong. I'm not sure about the
raise, but I am sure that nothing
about the salary was discussed in
any board meeting this year," he
Morfitt said, "We felt the in-
Vol. LIX, No. 25      VANCOUVER, B.C., THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 1976
•*13i 1    V\
TOWERS DO GOOD FOR ONCE and drag car onto Southwest
Marine Drive after vehicle plummeted 200 feet down down Point
— deryl mogg photo
Grey cliffs. Young woman driver, who blacked out while driving at
50 m.p.h. is in fair condition in hospital.
Jock Volrich new Vancouver mayor
Jack Volrich, who steered The
Elector's Action Movement firmly
to the right, was elected mayor of
Vancouver Wednesday, continuing
TEAM'S domination of the mayor's
Volrich, who took 27,664 votes,
about 45 per cent of the total, beat
out civic Non-Partisan Association
candidate Ed Sweeney, who got
15,001 votes, Committee of
Progressive Electors candidate
Bruce Yorke, with 8,992 votes, and
independent Helen Boyce, with
8,120 votes.
Volrich succeeds TEAM mayor
Art Phillips, mayor since 1972
when TEAM ended NPA
domination of city hall. To win,
Volrich won a bitter nomination
meeting over Aid. Michael Harcourt, a sometime NDP candidate.
Volrich said he would run for
mayor whether or not he got the
TEAM nomination, which he won
because his supporters bought
more memberships than did
Although only five incumbents
ran for council, it will be roughly
the same makeup as it is now.
COPE's Harry Rankin topped the
polls, followed by four TEAM
• members and three NPA members, plus independents and former TEAM members Darlene
Marzari and Harcourt.
Elected or leading for TEAM at
press time early today were: park
board chairwoman May Brown,
TEAM president Marguerite Ford,
park board commissioner and ex-
alderman Bill Gibson, and ex-
policeman Don Bellamy.
NPAers on route to council are
Aid. Warnett Kennedy, evangelist
Bernice Gerard, former park
board member and 1974 mayoral
candidate George Puil. Following
behind the top 10 were TEAM incumbent Art Cowie, NPA heavy
Michael  Francis  and  COPE's
Bruce Eriksen, a community
The jubilant Volrich told supporters in the Bayshore Inn that he
is "very conscious of the problems
and challenges that lie ahead,"
adding he is "most impressed by
the support and confidence expressed in me."
Phillips joined him on the
platform before the crowd dressed
in furs and three-piece suits and
said: "I think you'll be one of the
best mayors — well, maybe not the
A bitter Sweeney told NPAers
assembled at the Four Seasons
hotel that "the printed media did a
pretty good ax-job on us. I think I
personally made a few blunders,
but it only shows I'm human."
Yorke told a jubilant COPE
crowd: "Thanks for your work. It
was worth it. We're on our way. We
are in the civic field to stay and I
predict that in 1978, we'll win."
The new school board will again
be dominated by TEAM and the
park board will have a mix of
TEAM and NPA members.
Quorum reached in fee vote
About 3,800 students had voted in
the Alma Mater Society fee
referendum when polls closed
Wednesday, enough to ensure that
the result of the referendum is
The referendum, which asks
students to approve a $5 fee increase for the AMS, needs a voter
turnout of 15 per cent of the student
population, or 3,500, votes to reach
The voters, who turned out in
unexpectedly large numbers, also
cast ballots on whether to give $1
each to the National Union of
Students and the B.C. Students'
Federation and whether to give a
$2 increase to women's athletics.
In the general AMS fee increase
referendum, students are being
asked to give $2 dollars to The
Ubyssey, $1 to campus radio
station CITR, and $2 to AMS administration. Students currently
contribute $1.20 a year to The
On the same referendum last
year, only 643 students voted on the
first day.
Voting was particularly heavy in
SUB and Sedgewick library where
1,000 and 850 ballots respectively
were cast. About 575 people voted
at Buchanan and 600 voted in the
advance poll in the residences
Polls are also located in IRC,
War Memorial Gym and the
commerce, forestry, civil
engineering and education
buildings. They are open today,
last day of the referenda, from 9
a.m. to 5 p.m.
Results will not be available until
ballots are counted late today.
Brent Tynan, AMS director of
services, said Wednesday he could
not remember the last time he was
so excited, after he heard of the
heavy voter turnout.
crease was what they required to
equal the inflationary trend to
meet their basic requirements.
"They wanted to set an example
to merest of the university. We felt
that was very noble of them, but
that they didn't have to do that.
They are setting a good example
by only taking $2,400."
Board member Sadie Boyles said
the increase was approved to
"bring them in line with faculty
association policy. The association
is getting a certain percentage
raise, so this was basically the
The faculty received an increase
this year of 3.16 per cent plus $1,050
across the board.
Donovan Miller, board member
and university chancellor, said,
"As far as I'm concerned, this
administrative team is doing a
first class job. Performance should
be rewarded. It's as simple as
Trevino said, "I'm afraid I'm
partly responsible for requesting
that- the board sit in camera,
without the president and vice-
presidents being present, to
discuss whether or not to honor
their request that their salaries not
be increased. We decided to do this
because it would have been embarrassing for them to discuss the
matter with them."
William White, university vice-
president and bursar, was not
available for comment. But the
other vice-presidents were
reluctant to discuss the salary
"I think anything of that nature
See page 2: UNWANTED
SFU report
puts strings
on interior U
Simon Fraser University will
agree to operate a four-campus
university college in the interior,
but with several conditions, a
report to SFU's senate indicates.
The report assesses the implications of the proposal, made in
the Winegard commission report
on post-secondary education in
B.C.'s nonmetropolitan areas and
was prepared by pest management
professor Bryan Bierne.
The Winegard commission
reported in early September that a
university college affiliated to SFU
be set up with campuses in Prince
George, Kelowna, Kamloops and
Nelson with headquarters in
Vernon. The proposed institution
would become independent by 1990.
Education minister Pat McGeer
gave SFU until the end of the year
to accept or reject the report. If
SFU rejected it, he said, the institution would be set up independently.
If SFU accepted the Winegard
recommendations unconditionally,
Bierne said such a move "would
meet with widespread opposition
from a majority of the faculty of
If SFU rejected it "a clearly
valid reason would be essential, as
merely to excuse or rationalize
selfishly could be academically
indefensible and politically unwise."
Bierne's report, which was
obtained Wednesday by The
Ubyssey, suggests, but does not
state, the best alternative would be
to accept the report if conditions
giving SFU strong control over the
new institution were granted.
Such conditions would allow SFU
to run the new institution along
lines different from those
suggested in the Winegard report.
Bierne was critical of several
aspects of Winegard's proposals,
particularly the cost of the new
Bierne suggests SFU could
See page 2: SFU Page 2
Thursday, November 18, 1976
SFU to decide evolution
From page 1
accept the Winegard report if SFU
can decide how the new institution
is to evolve. For instance, SFU
could remain a multi-campus
university indefinitely, it could
remain multi-campus after
"budding off" a new multi-campus
university, or it could revert to a
single-campus university after
"budding off" a new multi-campus
university (as Winegard suggests)
or several new single campus
universities, Bierne said.
The last proposal, which is
substantially different from the
Winegard recommendations,
would "give autonomy early to
regional institutions without
reducing the availability of expert
assistance and co-operation from
SFU," Bierne said.
"It would reduce problems of a
multi-campus system. It would
permit SFU to avoid becoming
involved where it is unable or
unwilling to do so," he added.
Bierne said SFU should accept
the new institution only if its status
be clearly defined with a strong
controlling role from SFU.
"The suggestion in the report
that each centre should have a full
time faculty of only 10 is
unrealistic," Bierne said. He
suggested that 20 faculty at each
centre at least would be needed.
' SFU should not accept the
Winegard report if the Universities
Council and the education
department do not reject its
description of SFU as a university
with little interest in developing
professional schools, he said.
Kidnapped pool table
returned to CUS
A pool table which was stolen
and held for ransom Oct. 27 has
been returned to the commerce
undergraduate society.
CUS president John Henderson
said Wednesday the table was
returned about 10 days ago.
And CUS executive member Joe
Bowes said: "The table was
spirited back one night. They
didn't like our terms, so they gave
it back with their tails between
their legs."
The tablenappers left a ransom
note saying the table would be
returned if CUS donated $50 to the
crippled children's fund.
But CUS told the anonymous
thieves they would donate $100 to
the fund on the condition it was
returned and the thieves agreed to
make a similar donation to the
multiple sclerosis fund.
CUS executives are not certain
who took the table, but suspicions
are that the engineering undergraduate society is responsible.
Henderson said: "We can't
confirm that it was the EUS,
because we didn't specifically see
them do it.
"What we know is that the
engineers made a showing a couple
of weeks ago."
He was referring to an incident
in which a group of engineers
dragged a plywood model of a pool
table, complete with green felt
cover, to the library pond. They
tanked and burned the model.
Henderson said the table was not
returned in its original good
condition. "It was pretty badly
scratched," he said. "It looked like
Unwanted raise
From page 1
you'd better talk to the president,"
said  Chuck  Connaghan,   vice-
president   in   charge   of   administrative services.
"I'd have to check my files for
the exact amount, but it was under
$2,400," said Erich Vogt, vice-
president in charge of faculty and
student affairs.
Shaw, vice-president in charge of
university development, said his
pay increase "is the business of the
chairman of the board of governors. I don't really think there's
anything to discuss. It's my salary,
and I'm not really used to
discussing it."
He said of the offer to not receive
an increase: "There was some
discussion along those lines."
Big or Small Jobs
they'd dropped it. And there were
scratches on both sides — it looked
as if they'd dragged it through a
slightly too narrow door. One
corner was crushed, and the felt
cover was gone."
Faculty and students would have
to meet regular SFU standards,
Bierne said, an arrangement
which would allow faculty to move
between SFU and the new institution and would not degrade
SFU's reputation.
He said the Winegard cost
estimates are "unrealistically
low," and said it should not be
accepted unless assurances of
adequate funding are made. New
cost estimates could not be made
until priorities are set, he added.
Bierne rejects the suggestion
that extra members from the new
institution be seated on SFU's
board of governors, but said an
advisory council proposed would
ensure adequate representation in
SFU decision making. Faculty and
administrators from the new institution should have representation on university committees
and the senate subject to current
SFU regulations.
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ARMED FORCES. Thursday, November 18, 1976
Page 3
Carleton sops outbooze UBC
OTTAWA (CUP) — Media
reports that Carleton University
students drank an average of 38
gallons of beer each last year for a
total of 1.3 million pints sold in the
campus pub have created unfounded hysteria, according to
student association president Scott
Carleton is being picked on
because it lacks access to nearby
pubs, unlike the downtown
University of Ottawa," he said.
"Weonly provide the pubs, we do
not coerce students into getting
pissed to the gills."
Mullin said if students are
drinking to drown their sorrows the
problem is partly that of health
"I don't think closing down the
pubs is going to solve the
Health service director Dr.
Juanita Casselman pointed out
that last year some waiters were
given a course conducted by an
addiction research foundation to
train them to discourage heavy
Liquor operations manager Ron
Mertens challenged contentions by
health services that heavy campus
drinking caused venereal disease
and   unwanted   pregnancies.   He
Book sale
hopes to
break even
This year's book sale will
probably not feature any dramatic
price discounts, bookstore director
John Hedgecock said Wednesday.
"My feeling is we will not be
marking prices down that much,"
he said.
Hedgecock claimed the books on
sale are already about 50 per cent
cheaper than their retail value.
He said the book sale has not
really been needed for the past two
years but is continuing anyway as
an annual UBC tradition.
The Bookstore tries to sell its
overstocked books at the book sale
Hedgecock said. He said the overstock comprises about 20 per cent
of the books on sale.
Hedgecock said the other books
are bought from publishing houses
throughout Canada that are
anxious to clear out leftover stock
at reduced rates.
The bookstore could possibly
make a profit on the book sale
Hedgecock said, but is only concerned with breaking even on the
"As long as we get our investment out of it, that's it," he
Hedgecock said the books for
sale had a total retail value of
about $150,000.
He said the bookstore didn't buy
as many books for this year's sale
as in previous years.
The bookstore purchases are
based on the price and
marketability of the books,
Hedgecock "said.
He said the books are not student
oriented because it is difficult to
get hold of such books from the
publishing houses. Many
publishers will shred leftover early
editions of academic books rather
than cut the sales of new editions
by releasing the previous editions
for sale at discount prices, said
Hedgecock said the book sale
started several years ago when the
bookstore had a large quantity of
old textbooks that could not be sold
at the retail price.
The bookstore decided it would
be more economical to sell the
books at any price than to store
them, and held a sale featuring
"giveaway" prices.
By the end of last year's sale
books were being sold for $5 a foot.
said if alcohol leads to permissiveness it's the immaturity of
the drinker, not the availability of
alcohol that results in the permissiveness.
Mertens said if pub staff notice
that somebody is "well on his way"
that person is cut off and ushered
out of the facility.
He also challenged beer consumption statistics.
"Sure, the regulars here may
well have consumed 38 gallons
each. But that's not the average.
The average works out to about
five gallons each for the students,
faculty and staff using Carleton's
liquor outlets. And considering
about5,000 people without Carleton
identification drink here each
year, the average per Carleton
student drinker is more like four
According to John St. James,
faculty club assistant manager,
one group of professors might
spend $300 to $400 on drinks there
on Friday evenings.
Since the club is a private institution, it doesn't have to release
its profit and consumption figures.
St. James added "This is
basically a social club and they all
know each other very well . . .
there's lots of promiscuity and
UBC students drank somewhat
less than their Carleton counterparts, Pit manager Tor Svanoe
said Wednesday. But he added: "I
think they are exaggerating
The Pit sold 84,000 gallons of beer
last year, almost 4 gallons per
student. But Svanoe said the Pit
runs only at capacity two nights a
week — Wednesdays and Fridays.
Under the new system adopted at
the Pit after its month-long
closure, Svanoe said it will likely
sell a smaller quantity of beer than
"I don't think we should take
second place to Carleton
University," he added.
BROWSING STUDENT . . . peruses books at Brock sale
- matt king photo
Vital c'tee hasn't met since March
Student politicos are angry
because Robert Bailey's food
services, a student service, has
been operating for eight months
with no student input.
Brent Tynan, Alma Mater
Society director of services, said
Wednesday the 10-member food
services committee has not met
since March. The committee
oversees the operations of food
services and is made up of student,
administration and faculty
"Students deserve a chance to be
represented," Tynan said.  "The
food services budget for 1976-77
estimates gross revenues from
residence meal passes and from
campus food services operations at
more than $3.8 million," he said.
There are four students on the
committee, and food services head
Robert Bailey is now an ex-officio
member of the committee.
Stan Oberg, commerce professor
and long-time food services
committee member, replaced
Bailey as chairman of the committee after Bailey stepped down
last summer after two years as
"I requested that because of a
conflict of interest," Bailey said
Wednesday. He said he never
wanted to be chairman and asked
Erich Vogt, administration vice-
president in charge of faculty and
student affairs, to be allowed to
step down. The committee reports
to Vogt.
Bailey said the committee last
met in June. But Oberg said he
does not remember when the last
meeting took place.
"It certainly has been a while
since the committee has discussed
policy," Oberg said Wednesday. "I
haven't even had my first meeting
with Mr. Bailey as chairman of the
Fee hike sought for aliens
Student senator Joan Blandford
gave notice of a motion at Wednesday's senate meeting which
would have senate oppose tuition
fee increases — but only for some
Blandford's motion asks senate
to recommend to the university's
board of governors that there be
no, or minimal, tuition fee increases for students who have
lived in B.C. for a year or more,
larger increases for Canadian
students from other provinces, and
still larger increases for students
from outside Canada.
Blandford, whose motion will not
come up until senate's January
meeting, said she thought foreign
students and students from outside
B.C. should pay higher fees
because they do not pay taxes and
support the university with them.
Senate was also faced with yet
another motion about the
disruption last month of three talks
by South African politician Harry
The motion, presented by psychology department head  Peter
Suedfeld, asks that senate consider
procedures to avoid such disturbances in the future.
Suedfield said he made the
motion because he was afraid the
resolution made by senate last
month strongly deploring the
actions of the demonstrators,
would have no effect on the
"The people originating the
disruption don't care (about the
resolution)," Suedfeld said.
"We need to go beyond this.
Steps can be taken to minimize the
chance of disruptions."
Senate eventually decided the
administration should "explore
procedures (to minimize disruptions of speakers) and report back
to senate," which would then be
"made aware of how it might cope
with these situations."
Senate also passed a motion by
arts dean Robert Will calling for
some changes in supplemental
exams within the arts department.
Previously, Will said, students
who failed a course could write
supplemental exams in any course
in which they failed a final exam
and pass the course regardless of
the weight of the final exam in the
total course mark.
With Will's changes, arts
students will only be able to write
supplemental exams in courses
where 40 per cent or more of the
course's marks from the final
exam, and the supplemental will
only count for as much as the
original final exam.
Will took at least 30 minutes to
explain his proposal.
Engineering dean Liam Finn
objected to Will's proposal because
students in other faculties, such as
engineering, would have to be
judged on another faculty's
standards for required courses
such as English 100.
And chemistry head Charles
McDowell said he was uncertain
why Will would make the proposal
to senate.
"Dean Will has entertained us
with many flights of fancy in*the
past year, but tonight surpasses
any," McDowell said. "It boggles
my mind to think anyone would
think differently (about the supplemental exam revisions)."
committee. I plan to have lunch
with Mr. Bailey tomorrow."
Oberg said he thinks a meeting
date for the committee will be
established on Thursday. "I
haven't any idea why the committee hasn't met yet."
But Herb Dhaliwal, AMS
director of finance, said Bailey
caused the delay because Bailey
had an opportunity to call a
meeting in September.
SAC was told only two weeks ago
that Bailey was no longer committee chairman, Dhaliwal said.
The traffic and parking committee
has already met twice this year, he
"He (Bailey) will have to answer
to complaints about what food
services has done," Dhaliwal said.
"Food services is taking revenues
from vending machines which at
one time were going to the undergraduate societies."
"There's something wrong,"
Tynan said. "There's more and
more window dressing. I think
(administration) president Kenny
should be informed that his
committee isn't meeting."
Tynan said SAC sent a letter to
Bailey a month ago requesting a
meeting, with a copy to Vogt. He
said the SAC has phoned Bailey
regularly to arrange a meeting,
but nothing has come of it.
"It's right in the SUB lease that
the student representative
assembly must be informed of
changes in food services' operating
procedure," Tynan said.
"We haven't really been consulted about any changes,"
Dhaliwal said.
"I'll be very interested in seeing
the profit and loss figures for
Octoberfest," Tynan said. He said
if food services loses money on
such events the revenue has to
come from somewhere else. Page 4
Petty cash
Isn't generosity wonderful?
In a jolly and chummy display of generosity, the board
of governors has unanimously voted to give administration
president Doug Kenny and each of his four vice-presidents a
$2,400 salary increase.
Gee whiz, people, that's really nice of you. After all,
poor Doug the Thug was only making a paltry $60,000 a year
before you gave him that much needed infusion of cash.
And the other four old boys, good old Erich and
Michael and William and Chuckles, why, heck, they got an
even less princely sum of $54,800 a year.
Shucks, it's really too bad you couldn't even give them a
real eight per cent salary increase, like everybody else (even if
they don't make $60,000 a year) is allowed these days. But
you know how it is with that nasty Anti-Inflation Board back
in Ottawa that only lets you give those poor fellows a
maximum increase of $2,400.
But don't worry old boys, those horrible people will be
gone in less than another two years, and then you can give
those deserving fellows the kind of increase they really need.
Golly gee whiz, folks, we know the same as you do that
good old Doug and the boys said they didn't even want to
ask for the raise in the first place.
Like you said, Thomas Dohm,-it's all a matter of policy.
Those guys should get an increase just like everybody else. Of
course you have to be consistent with the cost of living —
even if it does cost poor Doug $60,000 a year to live. Sure
would be nice if we could all live like that, right?
And gosh, George Morfitt, you're only too right when
you say the increase is what those poor beggars need to equal
the inflationary trend and "meet their basic requirements."
Some of us sure wish we had basic requirements like a fifth
car, or a wardrobe of $500 suits.
You said it even better, Mr. Morfitt. Like it is really
"noble" of those self-sacrificing souls to set a good example
by only taking $2,400 increases. Wouldn't it be great if
everybody else who works on campus got only a $2,400
And by the way, when you get around to hiking tuition
fees for all us students, make it a hefty increase, won't you?
We wouldn't want to have to shortchange Doug and
Erich and Michael and William and Chuckles, now, would
Thursday, November 18, 1976
8i de ufW.aaE
I would like to make the campus
aware of the parking situation at
Gage Towers.
There are 117 Gage residents on
a waiting list for parking spaces
around the towers. These people
must park their cars in B lot, a one
and one-half mile round trip from
Gage. They encounter many
problems: long walks to their
vehicles in rain and snow; vandalism and theft from their cars
while parked in that poorly
patrolled area; danger to their
persons while walking between
Gage and B lot.
Gage residents need their cars at
their disposal for many reasons.
All Gage residents need to buy
groceries which are very difficult
to transport on the bus. Many
residents have practicums or part-
time jobs for which they need their
cars nearby.
Many of the working residents
simply do not have the time to get
out to B lot and drive to work after
their last class. Students who have
practicums must walk to B lot in
the early dark mornings to reach
their cars. If it is raining these
people are in no fit state for work
by the time they get to their cars.
In past years Gage residents
have made representations to the
president's advisory committee on
traffic and parking, requesting
space in SUB lot. The committee's
response amounted to little more
than a token gesture of allowing
Gage residents to park in SUB lot
for one extra hour in the early
morning, but this did not do
anything to solve the basic
Last Thursday a delegation of
Gage residents attended a meeting
of the traffic and parking committee to once more attempt to
plague Gage
communicate with the committee.
Unfortunately, four of the faculty
and staff members were absent.
At that meeting a petition
bearing 625 names was presented
requesting space in SUB lot for-
Gage residents. I asked that 120
spaces be made available to Gage
residents and that the shuttle bus
service be improved during peak
morning and afternoon hours for
daytime users of B lot.
This would allow a shift in traffic
patterns, keeping traffic flow down
in the centre of the campus during
rush hours and ensuring that
nobody would have to walk across
the campus at night.
The traffic and parking committee seemed split, with some
members supporting this idea and
others apprently confused about
the issues. The committee then
came to no conclusion, but implied
that something should be done by
somebody. No specific measures
have been taken.
Sharon Taylor
Gage liaison subcommittee
on parking
Sensationalism and crap
THURSDAY,  NOVEMBER   18,   1976
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the
university year by the Alma Mater Society of the University of
B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS
or the university administration. Member, Canadian University
Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page Friday, a weekly commentary
and review. The Ubyssey's editorial office is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301;
Advertising, 228-3977.
Co-Editors: Sue Vohanka, Ralph Maurer
This is going to be a clean masthead (for a change). Scoop the fearless
white newshound howled as Heather Walker and Bill Tleleman dusted him
with flea powder. Ralph Maurer, Simon Warner and Deb van der Gracht
came into the office looking whiter than white, as Matt King, Verne
McDonald, Steve Howard and Mike Bocking tried to hold Chris Gainor's
head in a stop bath. Sue Vohanka chased Doug McMullin around the
typewriters as she tried to wash his ink-covered T-shirt with a Brillo pad.
Kathy Ford and Deryl Mogg showed everyone how to use dental floss to
clean typewriters, while shane McCune and Simon Warner tried to lure
Nick Smirnow into the shower. The only dirty person in this masthead is
Charlie Micallef, who was seen playing in a mud puddle just before press
time. Marcus Gee was left out of this masthead on purpose.
The Alma Mater Society fee
referendum is a lot of crap.
After months of being rattled and
annoyed by petty campus
politicking, misdirected
"protests" and demonstrations
that flopped, UBC students are
being subjected to yet another vote
on a conglomeration of nebulous
While the much-publicized
National Student Day fizzled
almost before it began, last week's
Ubyssey front page ominously told
us that Vote looms, student groups
Not only is this sudden and heavy
coverage unwarranted, but it is a
pathetic case of sensationalism.
We are told that this week's AMS
referendum will either make or
break several student services on
campus. Well. Let's take a.look at
these issues.
Students of both sexes are asked
to pay an extra women's athletic
fee. Why can't a more equal
distribution of present budgets be
found? Or does it cost more to
make a woman sweat?
Intramurals supposedly need
extra money, for "referee fees and
publicity." Why don't volunteers, if
they're so dedicated, do their own
publicity and why don't the
physical education teachers do the
refereeing? One would hope that
they are qualified for at least this
CITR, this university's excuse
for a radio station, wants to "expand its audience" with an FM
cable. How much? On top of what
they're already getting, an additional $7,000 a year. Cute.
All students are asked to kick in
an extra dollar for both the B.C.
Students' Federation and the
National Union of Students. What?
Who? Isn't it enough to be forced to
belong to the AMS (Anyone Making
Speeches) already?
This AMS promises the stunning,
revolutionary change, when it gets
all this new money, of, are you
ready? organizing "a full-time
special co-ordinator to replace the
special events committee." Oh.
The Ubyssey, that thrice-weekly
bowel movement of a handful of
SUB's resident political hacks, is
threatened with reducing its
production to less papers per week
and losing some obscure wire
service from back east. My God,
can you imagine what a
catastrophic loss this would be?
The mind boggles.
Lastly, and this has to be the
biggest joke of all, part of the
$84,000 AMS increase (your money,
remember) is to go to the newly
invented women's centre.
Now what the hell is that needed
for, when there are already several
independentwomen's groups doing
excellent work on campus?
Wouldn't it be a scream if someone
decided to start a men's centre?
And then asked you to pay for it?
Most UBC students are doing
their damndest to pay off their fees
and get through their courses. At a
time when money is tight and
academic standards are tough, not
to mention " the concerns of
economic recession and unemployment waiting for us when we
finish here, the last thing we need
is more propaganda and expenditures to finance a lot of half-
baked, airy-fairy schemes.
This week, if you vote at all on all
this nonsense, vote no.
Lance Morrison
arts 3
More letters, see page 5 Thursday, November 18, 1976
Page 5
BERKELEY, Calif. — America will soon
know what it is like to have a president who
has read Bob Dylan.
The mood here, and probably in other
Democratic strongholds, is one of relief as
much as celebration.
In the last few days before the election,
one could sense that people were seeing the
decision to be made in terms of the real
alternatives — Gerald Ford and Jimmy
In the end, the left, by and large, went for
Carter. Eugene McCarthy won less than one
per cent of the vote in California — less than
the margin by which Ford won the state.
Ford did win California, though, so all the
Carter votes in Berkeley amounted to
nothing nationally, because of the winner-
take-all electoral vote system. In this state,
so peculiarly divided between north and
south, the conservative forces of the lower
latitudes prevailed, so the significance of
the swing to Carter in the north (including
Berkeley) is in its signalling a sort of acceptance of the, albeit imperfect, political
The pages of the New York Times seem
unusually jubilant in the wake of the election
Democrats seem slowly to be awakening
to (he idea that they will soon have power
again. One wonders if they aren't a little
unsure what they will do with it.
While the Democratic congressional
leaders know what they want, no one knows
in what form Carter will materialize as
To  judge  from   his   first   post-election
He's making
us proud again.
... to no avail
Relief greets
Carter victory
south ef border
I am
comments, Carter's self confidence seems
to be re-emerging. It had vanished since
Ford's nomination.
Since then, Carter has been fighting for
his political life — and losing. The role of the
loser is unbecoming to the reborn man, and
he is exceedingly uncomfortable with it. It
remains to be seen if he can keep his confidence in check and restrain the impulse to
become cocky and arrogant.
In the New York Times on Nov. 4, William
Safire wrote: "Of the last four occupants of
the Oval Office, one has been shot out, one
scared out, one thrown out and one voted
out. It would be very good for all of us to
have a president serve a full, successful
#    #    #
Carter has one great thing on his side,
which just might be the key to any success
he could have — he really owes no favors in
Washington, he does not have to balance a
ledger of personal favors.
Those debts he owes to his party are not
that great, and he is probably capable of
defying his party in some situations. For
better or worse, he is stubborn, and does not
like to be bound.
After the last Ford-Carter debate,
political scientist John Schaar commented:
"Carter comes from somewhere; he
knows what 'community' is ... I think he.
has a better idea of the flickering, wild and
scary pulse of this nation ... It doesn't take
much to get me to believe, and that's why
I'm voting for Jimmy Carter on Nov. 2 with
a clear conscience ... A smile isn't enough
to salute, but it's enough for political faith."
The real test for Carter now will not be
whether he can keep from becoming aloof or
whether he can maintain his base of support. It will be in his ability to live up to his
No one outside perhaps his family and
close advisors — and one wonders about
them in light of the cynical management of
his campaign — believes he means what he
has said.
He must now show that he can fill the
shoes he has fashioned for himself.
If he cannot, he will have to shed his
image and don another, but in doing so he
would confirm the suspicions of a wary
electorate — something we can only hope he
is aware of, and loathe to do.
*    #    #
If anyone deserved to win in this election,
in terms of effort or in virtue of the issues, it
was Cesar Chavez's United Farm Workers.
They'lost, unfortunately.
Proposition 14 would have given
organizers the right to speak to workers
after hours on the growers' property, where
the workers live, and would have ensured
state-supervised, secret votes on union
affiliation. It was defeated by a three to two
margin after growers mounted a multi-
million dollar campaign against the
The UFW people were probably not
In their appeals for support in Berkeley,
they repeatedly stressed the need to out
weigh the votes of southern California and
rich agricultural regions such as the Salinas
During the campaign, the UFW registered
300,000 new voters under the state's new
registration-by-mail scheme, and followed
through with speeches, rallies and marches
in the closing weeks of the campaign.
This voter, having signed up with the
UFW, was phoned twice: once to make sure
I had received my registration packet, and a
second time on election day to make sure I
had voted.
This is not the end for the UFW. The fact
they got 40 per cent of the electorate to
support them is a mark of how far they have
come in 10 years.
This year, they became legitimate when
the California Democratic Party and
governor Jerry Brown supported
Proposition 14. Eventually, even Carter
came out and expressed his support.
Asked why the measure failed to pass,
Brown replied with a characteristic non-
response: "I don't think we can really hope
to explain these things."
*   #   #
More disappointing and certainly more
surprising than the defeat of Proposition 14
was the election of Vancouver-born linguist
S. I. Hayakawa to the U.S. Senate.
A Nov. 1 Newsweek magazine interview
with Hayakawa said in part:
" 'God, I don't know . . . These are among
the things I've got to learn,' he responded to
a question about how to handle the fluctuating economy ... He (Hayakawa) favors
repeal of child-labor laws (working kids are
less likely to turn to crime) ... On the
Panama Canal, he says: 'We should keep it.
We stole it fair and square.' "
The feeling here was summed up by one
voter: "The state that elected (former Los
Angeles mayor) Sam Yorty, (former
senator and movie actor) George. Murphy
and Ronald Reagan will learn to live with
Sam Hayakawa."
The only consolation may be the possible
spectacle of Hayakawa pitted against his
fellow freshman, academic and verbal
trickster Daniel Moynihan.
John Morris is a former Ubyssey staffer
now studying at Berkeley.
CITR needs your bucks
In response to his letter on Tuesday
regarding the Alma Mater Society
referendum for a fee increase, I feel that
John De Marco does not understand the
intentions of CITR.
CITR's executive and members want all
UBC students to be able to listen to UBC
radio. Our portion of the fee increase will
enable us to take a big step towards
allowing most students to not only pick up
CITR, but also pick up a much improved
CITR, in terms of program quality.
In the recent past, CITR has not had the
funds to diversify or upgrade program
quality, now CITR has the chance.
De Marco has obviously not tuned into
CITR on a regular basis. If he had he
would find a wide variety of music:
classical, jazz, progressive rock, folk, top
40, easy listening, and CITR's unique
In my opinion this variety would satisfy
anyone's tastes. CITR has more live sports
programming than most any station in any
market.   CITR  broadcasts   Thunderbird
hockey, home and away, play-by-play;
this is the third year.
CITR was the only station in the city to
organize the live broadcast of the Forest
City Bowl from London, Ont. In fact, CITR
offered CFRO-FM the coverage to show
students what CITR's sports programming consists of.
CITR's news department carries international,, national, local and campus
news hourly throughout the day.
Our effort goes unheard. CITR is trying
to change that, but we need the money to
do it. Vote yes on the AMS fee increase
ballot and hear the result.
CITR hopes to be on the FM cable
system (without commercials) by early
January. I've been frustrated for over
three years about CITR's minimal
coverage. Finally, De Marco, this is our
chance to let "the sound of the campus" be
heard — vote yes, today.
Richard Saxton
president, CITR
Ubyssey deservedly dumped on
We are writing in regard to the hitchhiking article you reprinted from Images,
the Kootenay women's paper, in your Sept.
23 issue of The Ubyssey.
We were outraged that you would print an
article from a feminist newspaper and
accompany it with such sexist graphics.
As a member of Canadian University
Press, and as an "alternate" newspaper,
you have made a commitment to use your
media to eradicate sexism and portray
positive images of women in their struggle
for change. Yet your graphics for the article
depict a Playboy female, a sex bait on the
highway, mini-skirted, full-lipped and
Not only do the graphics insult all women,
they further the myth of women hitchhikers
as sex objects. The cute line under the
graphics, A lesson on how not to hitchhike,
does nothing to erase the effect of the
graphics themselves.,"A picture is worth a
thousand words," especially to the casual
Our collective would like your readers to
be aware that these graphics are antithetical to our politics. By printing such
pictures, you have undermined the tone and
intent of our article. We suggest your
newspaper staff re-evaluate your purpose in
using those graphics; of all the positive and
strong images of women you could have
portrayed, why did you choose these!
the Images collective
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Thursday, November 18, 1976
Bank of Montreal
offers 'Campusbank'
The SUB branch of the Bank of
Montreal has installed a little
machine next to its door which
dispenses cash to students with a
special card.
But this machine is different
from the nine Instabanks which
dispense as much as $100 a day to
account holders around Vancouver.
The SUB machine is called
Campusbank and only gives out $25
per day to students, who have a
different card and cannot use the
Why the difference?
According to Stuart Clark,
manager of the SUB branch,
Mastercharge, which operates the
Instabank system, will not issue
cards to students.
"Mastercharge, like Chargex,
will not generally give out cards to
students because they are not
considered to be gainfully employed," Clark said Monday.
"So we made a deal with the
bank to allow students to use a
similar facility," he said. In a
normal Instabank, he said,
Mastercharge grants the credit
and charges interest on overdrafts.
But with the Campusbank, there is
no charge and the branch itself
grants credit.
BCSF meeting
at Cap College
this weekend
At its annual conference this
weekend the B.C. Students'
Federation will discuss education
spending cutbacks and possible
tuition fee increases.
BCSF members hope to arrive at
a strategy to fight both cutbacks
and fee increases.
Executive members are also
concerned about the effects of
education minister Pat McGeer's
stated intention of putting more
emphasis on technical and
vocational education in the future.
McGeer has said several times in
the last year he is interested in
seeing more job-oriented education
in B.C.
He has also sent letters to
community colleges, warning
them they will not receive much
increase in operating grants next
In his letter, McGeer said ". . .
there is little or no prospect of
increased grants this year except
for the most essential items.
"There is no assurance . . . that
grants can be expanded to cover
increases in salary to staff even if
they come within federal anti-
inflation guidelines."
And, McGeer said, the colleges
should consider increases in tuition
fees as a means of supplementing
their operating grants.
Universities will undoubtedly
face the same problems, McGeer
has indicated.
The conference will be held at
Capilano College from Nov. 18 to
3644 West 4th Avenue
At Alma
The qualifications for a campus
card are much looser than those
for a Mastercharge card, Clark
The $25 limit was agreed upon
during negotiations with the bank
because "there is an avenue of
abuse, and we have to cut it off
Mastercharge sets its own credit
criteria, said Clark, who described
Mastercharge as "an empire unto
The only other similar installation is at the University of
Alberta, he said.
Clark said 1,000 cards have been
issued so far and there have been
no abuses of the machine in its two
weeks of operation. But if anyone is
suspected of abusing the machine,
he added, it will be programmed to
swallow up that person's card.
voters appear in hordes for AMS
fee referendum, swamping ballot
box staffers in SUB Wednesday.
Vote continues today.
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Gov't withholds information
Canadian University Press
The government is cloaked in
secrecy. The light of day and the
eyes of the public have difficulty
penetrating it.
The government considers
public information its private
property. It passes along only what
it thinks the public should know.
Civil servants are not obliged to
tell anyone anything unless
directed to do so by superiors and
some estimates have the government withholding 80 per cent of its
Recently, a producer of a radio
talk show was looking for a very
simple bit of information about a
piece of land owned by the
government. After talking to 12
people in the department concerned she finally got the admission that, yes, the government
did indeed own the land. If she had
the stamina to press the issue
further she still might have come
up cold. There is no legislative
recourse for her to appeal a
decision made by a bureaucrat.
All levels of society, in dealing
with the government, experience
the secrecy syndrome. In the
spring of this year residents of Port
Hope, Ont. attempted to find out
how much radioactive waste was
being dumped into Lake Ontario.
They were met with official
When prime minister Pierre
Trudeau announced his wage and
price controls last fall, many
people wondered why he reversed
his stand from the 1974 election
when he so adamantly opposed
such measures. What reports or
facts or studies caused the change?
The reasons for implementation
were never made fully clear. The
supporting documents have been
well guarded.
In June the Consumers
Association of Canada passed a
resolution supporting an act
respecting the right of the public to
information concerning public
business. It guarantees the
"public's right to know." The
association is concerned because
secrecy in areas like food inspection, pesticide residue levels
and pollution control standards
may be hazardous to consumers. It
is literally a matter of life and
death to withhold such vital information.
To make a rational decision it is
necessary to have all the facts. To
marshal them people must have
free access to information. Information freely given is one thing.
Information carefully selected and
channelled by the government is
A number of interest groups
have been calling for freer access
to government information. The
government responded in last
month's speech from the throne by
stalling and trying to appease its
critics with rhetoric. It didn't
propose any legislation, but simply
promised it would present a policy
paper to an official committee
which has been studying the issue
for the last two years. It also gave
lip service to the policy of greater
access to information by the
Support for freedom of information is growing across the
country as concerned individuals
and groups form committees to
lobby for strong legislation on
federal and provincial levels. The
type of legislation forthcoming (if
and when it does come) and how
information will be made available
is still the vital question.
One of the controversies arising
is the question of final decision in
cases of dispute. For example, if
an individual goes to department X
and is told the information
requested is not available because
it is secret or confidential, what
A civil servant said recently: "If
a senior official or a deputy
minister wants to keep back information all he has to do is refer to
the Privy Council guidelines of the
government motion for the
production of papers which outline
the four types of classified information, and proceed to classify
the documents as top secret,
secret, confidential or restricted. It
then comes under the umbrella of
the Official Secrets Act and effectively stops any information
going out."
Retiring government house
leader Mitchell Sharp says the
final decision in cases of dispute
should rest with the minister involved. He advocates an information ombudsman to review
cases of contention or denial, with
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release of a report. Thus, if the
minister feels the information
requested is at all sensitive or
could hurt the government, the
secrecy lid remains on.
Others feel the final decision
should rest with an independent
body — the courts or an independent complaints board with
the powers of a civil court.
The most radical act, in the
opinion of most experts in the field,
would be one that simply stated all
information is freely available to
the public, as part of its basic
"right to know."
There would be clearly defined
exemptions, though. This would
mean amending the Official
Secrets Act and perhaps other acts
which currently prohibit disclosure
of information, especially in the
area of national security.
Canada's information laws led a
Conservative member of
parliament who attended an international conference on freedom
of information in Austria to
comment that "Canadians, along
with the British, have the most
antiquated laws concerning
release of government documents
in the free world."
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There are currently two freedom
of information models to draw
upon from the U.S. and Sweden.
The U.S. first passed a freedom of
information law in 1966, but the
spirit of the act was not being
followed. In 1974, stiff amendments
were passed which gave a citizen
the right to take the case to court if
a request for information was
turned down. The case
automatically takes precedence,
goes to the top of the court list and
is dealt with as quickly as possible.
It is recognized that information is
There are also penalties for a
U.S. civil servant who wilfully
withholds or denies an information
request. The penalty is paid by the
civil servant responsible.
In addition the U.S. has a
Government Data Privacy Act
which allows an individual to inspect and correct personal files.
In Sweden, free access to
government information is embodied in the constitution, which
dates to 1776. People have the right
to   all   documents   except   those
exempted by the Secrecy Law of
1936. It is up to the civil servant to
decide on the spot what is or is not
secret. When the private citizen
disputes the classification the case
goes to the Supreme Administrative Board or the parliamentary
ombudsman. However, the final
decision rests with the minister.
The Canadian government has
already made a move in the
direction of the U.S. model concerning access to personal files in
government departments and
agencies and will give an individual the right to request, inspect and correct personal files.
This means erroneous or
misleading information will be
corrected. It is not yet clear
whether this proposed act will
allow groups access to their files or
whether the individual has the
right of appeal if denied access to
the file.
What a freedom of information
act would do is bring about accountability. Politicians and
bureaucrats would be held ac-
See page 8: GOV'T
Last Shot
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Number one in Mexico.
Number one in Canada. Page 8
Thursday, November 18, 1976
UWO doesn't like OFS
LONDON, Ont. (CUP) — The
students' union at the University of
Western Ontario has taken the first
step towards a new provincial
student organization to replace the
Ontario Federation of Students.
The university students' council
voted Nov. 10 to call a meeting of
university and college student
council presidents to discuss the
proposed organization sometime in
the new year.
The move was proposed by
council member Steve Lighty, who
was instrumental in the successful
campaign to pull UWO out of OFS
during a recent campus referendum.
USC vice-president Greg Kay, an
OFS supporter during the October
referendum asked Lighty if the
proposed meeting wasn't "a little
premature at this point."
But Lighty refused a suggestion
the conference be delayed until the
opinion of other campuses was
sought saying, "if they don't want
representation    (in    the    new
organization), they won't show
UWO students voted narrowly to
stop their membership in the four-
year-old OFS in the October
referendum called by the council
last spring after some councillors
objected to an OFS leaflet on
provincial government cutbacks in
social services.
Council executive member
Larry Haskell recommended the
council urge students to vote
against continued OFS membership in an article for the
provincial Young Progressive
Conservatives' Newsletter, after
he attended the OFS spring conference last June.
Haskell objected in his article to
the federation's policy of
demanding free tuition for higher
education and its attacks on
education spending cutbacks by
Ontario's Conservative government.
Lighty, an executive member of
the Conservatives' campus
association council led the  anti-
Gov't acts as censor
of public information
From page 7
countable to the public for their
acts. In 1964, before entering
politics, Trudeau used to speak of
participatory democracy.
"Democratic progress requires
the ready availability of true and
complete information. In this way
people can objectively evaluate the
government's policies. To act
otherwise is to give way to despotic
secrecy," he said.
The proposed legislation, if and
when it comes, will indicate
whether Trudeau will hold to his
thinking. It seems with the
ascendancy to power of any
government the urge to withhold
information and to protect
bureaucratic secrets grows. It now
remains to be seen if "right to
know" legislation will be passed by
a "no comment" government.
This story appeared earlier, in
slightly different form, in Content,
a Canadian journalism review.
VOTE-NOVEMBER 16, 17, & 18
12:30 p.m.
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OFS campaign which focused
mainly on the federation's
unionized staff's wages and
$2.5m spent to
defeat UFW,
says magazine
Growers in California spent up to
$2.5 million to defeat a state
proposition that would have
guaranteed farm workers the right
to organize unions, Business Week
magazine estimates.
Proposition 14, strongly supported by Cesar Chavez's United
Farm Workers Union, was
defeated Nov. 2, the day of the U.S.
presidential elections. It would
have given farm workers the same
right to organize unions as workers
in other industries are guaranteed
under current federal laws.
The magazine reports that
virtually all of the 60,000 growers in
California joined a "No on 14"
committee that launched a multi-
million dollar media blitz to defeat
the initiative.
The committee's advertisements
promoted the theme that
Proposition 14 would destroy
private property rights because it
gave union organizers the right to
communicate with workers on
private property during certain
hours of the working day.
Business Week says that compared to the growers $2.5 million
budget, the Chavez forces have
spent less than $250,000 to promote
their cause.
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Shetlanders live with oil boom
Canadian University Press
While Canada's Arctic awaits the
impact of an oil and gas pipeline
almost certain to disrupt the
delicate environment, this group of
120 islands north of Great Britain
seems   to   have   found   some
profitable solutions to a similar
Unlike the lengthy impact
inquiries and land claims talks
going on between the Canadian
government and the North's native
Land owners
people, Shetland's 18,000
inhabitants have contained the
giant oil companies through the
Shetland Island Council Act,
passed in 1974.
The act makes the islands'
council the owner of all land used
for the development of North Sea
oil, discovered in 1971. In Canada,
thevictimsof the James Bay hydro
development were less fortunate in
settling for a cash payment.
The act also makes the council a
full partner in the development and
'Pressure' cut Ont. fee raise
TORONTO (CUP) — An unconfirmed report says
Ontario premier William Davis has yielded to
political pressure and reduced the proposed Ontario
tuition fee hike.
According to Claire Hoy, provincial government
columnist for the Toronto Sun, Davis reconsidered
the increase, and reduced the hike of $175 for
university and $100 for community college students to
$100 and $75 respectively.
The report said Davis made the suggestion to the
provincial cabinet because he was "concerned about
the political ramifications of large increases." The
hike would mean a 29 per cent jump in university
tuition fees and a whopping 40 per cent increase for
community college students.
A government official said the proposed
educational budget would not be presented for
another month. The minister would make no comment regarding the Sun story.
David Warner, the education critic of Ontario's
NDP hinted at the reason behind Davis's political
manoeuvre. "There are over 130,000 students in post-
secondary institutions and except for 9,000, they are
all eligible to vote," he said.
"The extra $175 might be passed on to the parents
and this could potentially affect over 300,000 adults.
This spread out over 20 centres in Ontario would
mean that in a lot of ridings voters would oppose the
premier," Warner added.
He said a study at Carleton University in Ottawa
destroyed the myth of universal accessibility to
university. The summer study revealed that only 14
per cent of the students at Carleton had parents who
earned less than $10,000 a year.
It also showed that children of parents with higher
incomes had less difficulty finding jobs, and that
unemployment of females was greater than that of
Having that part-time job
could hurt chances for loan
OTTAWA (CUP) — Students
working part-time next academic
year may face reduced financial
aid as a result of recent proposed
changes in federal student loans.
The decision that financial aid be
reduced for students whose earnings from part-time jobs exceeds
a monthly ceiling was one of
several changes to the administrative criteria for the
Canada Student Loans Plan at a
meeting of federal and provincial
representatives here in October.
But the changes proposed by the
Canada Student Loans plenary
group must receive the unanimous
consent of the nine provinces
participating in CSLP, and will not
be officially announced until the
release of the CSLP criteria
booklet next spring, according to a
federal official.
Madeline Kallio of the finance
department said the plenary group
does not release information about
its deliberations, nor are the
meetings, which are held in secret,
The results of the plenary
group's meeting came to light in an
interview by the University of
Manitoba student newspaper with
the provincial student aid director
Rick Kleiman, one of the nine
student aid directors represented
on the CSLP administrative body.
The changes include:
• Imposition of a ceiling on part-
time earnings of $75 monthly for
single students and $150 for
couples, along with an increase in
living allowances based on a
projected 12 month cash flow
period. Anything earned in excess
of these amounts would be applied
against the student's loan award:
• A 10 per cent reduction in
expected parental contributions,
but only for those cases where
students' parents live away from
home due to a prohibitive physical
distance to their institution, and
• A decreased minimum course
load requirement  to  qualify for
■loan assistance, to 30 per cent from
the current 40 per cent of a normal
yearly term.
The plenary group also considered "encouraging" banks to
reduce monthly repayments for
students with low incomes
following graduation.
ensures the payment of royalties
which now total $12 million. It is
expected to grow to $100 million
within the 20-year life of the
The British government has
since ended the power of local
governments like the Shetland
council to enact such legislation.
But "after the act was passed we
were sitting pretty," said A. I.
Tulloch, council convenor.
"If you ask me personally if I
want the oil I would say no. What
we need to have is a stable indigenous industry to provide long-
term jobs," Tulloch said.
Industries hit
Shetland's traditional industries
are fishing, subsistence farming
and knitting. The distinctive
knitwear is marketed world wide
but trades people say production
has dropped 50 per cent since oil
was discovered.
Before the oil discovery, these
industries provided full employment. They had entered the
most prosperous period of their
history and many islanders did not
need or want the oil development.
The oil boom has caused the
decline of these industries and the
fishing fleets have been the first to
Already facing stiff competition
from European and British ships
that can no longer fish off Iceland
as a result of the Cod War, the
islander's fishing grounds have
been further cut by oil rigs and
Both the fishing industry and the
oil companies seek a sandy bottom
for their business. The pipeliners
say they go to a lot of expense
burying their lines. But fishing
fleets have found that debris from
barges has effectively*closed off
any fishing around the two 100-mile
Gov't official hits students
for turning down lousy jobs
department of manpower official
has castigated students in the
prairie provinces for not taking
over 6,000 jobs available last
summer that he admits paid the
minimum wage, and, in many
cases, lasted only a week.
Roger Garrity, regional coordinator for student summer
employment in the three provinces
lamented: "We couldn't get people
to take these jobs. While they may
have been minimum-wage jobs,
most students are minimum-skill
From this he concludes:
"Anyone who says they couldn't
get a job in Winnipeg in the summer is either a fool or a liar."
Garrity said in a recent interview that of 6,546 jobs filled
from the 14,207 Manitoba secondary and post-secondary students
registered with manpower last
summer, about 900 were casual
jobs lasting no more than a week.
Meanwhile, the Manitoba youth
secretariat, a branch of the
provincial department of continuing education and manpower,
was only able to place 3,700 of the
10,000 students applying for jobs
due to the government's spending
cutback policy, according to a
secretariat spokesperson.
Garrity also said he thought the
cancellation of the Opportunities
for Youth program by the manpower department last winter did
not adversely affect the prairies'
job market.
But Drew Cringon of Manpower's job creation branch and
former OFY organizer said the
40,000 OFY jobs were missed, and
noted the department was introducing its Young Canada Works
program next summer.
The program is part of Manpower minister Jack Cullen's five-
year employment strategy
recently tabled in Parliament, and
is expected to supply 21,000 student
Student representatives such as
the National Union of Students
have welcomed the announcement
of the additional jobs but note these
are inadequate to meet student
unemployment, estimated last
summer at between 15 and 25 per
cent. The jobs will be based on
provincial minimum wage scales
and will be of short duration.
Local Manpower official Paul
Walmsley said OFY accounted for
600 summer jobs in Manitoba.
Despite the deterioration of local
industry, Tolluch said: "We had to
keep the national situation in
perspective. Britain needs this oil
to pay of four debts. It is my duty to
see that it comes through as
quickly as possible."
Storage area
Shetland will act as a storage
area for oil coming from eight
offshore fields in the two undersea
Oil and gas will then be shipped
from Shetland's Sullum Voe terminal. As Britain's largest oil
terminal, it is scheduled to start
shipping in early 1978.
The act allows council to build
the harbor facilities for the terminal and to become the harbor
authority allowing them to control
traffic and pollution.
They will build roads and other
public services from the revenue
earned through the operation of
companies they formed which
relate to the terminal.
As a result, property taxes are
expected to decrease and the level
of services will increase, said
Moreover, the council's act
allowed them to confine development to the 1,200-acre Sullum Voe
terminal, although the 30 oil
companies, led by Shell and British
Petroleum, wanted two terminals.
The act gives council 50 per cent
of the votes in Sullum Voe
Association Ltd., a policy-making
body in charge of construction and
operation of the $1 billion terminal.
Spill feared
As airtight as the act seems,
environmentalists here, like those
in Canada, are sceptical. Some like
neither the oil development nor the
council's handling of it.
Initially, 3,000-ton tankers,
among the world's largest, will
move 1.2 million barrels of oil a
day. This could increase to as
much as 3 million barrels.
Environmentalists say a giant
spill is inevitable. One of their
concerns is the effect of a spill on
the numerous species of rare sea
birds nesting in the Shetlands.
These fears are not unfounded.
As one oil company official said:
"If a 300,000-ton tanker goes
aground there isn't much you can
do about it in the short term."
The environmentalists say
council already has enough money
and power to provide adequate
protection, although no antipollution programs have been
Convenor Tulloch said council is
working on such programs, but
environmentalists, while lauding
the act, are concerned about
whether they will use it to full
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Thursday, November 18, 1976
Hot flashes
Want to learn to ski? Well
here's your chance. The Canadian
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sponsoring a downhill skiing
course at Whistler Mountain.
The course starts Jan. 15, and
runs for six consecutive Saturdays
or Sundays. The program costs
$82.50 and includes return bus
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beginning, intermediate or
advanced skier, and all lift tickets.
For more information call
Does   racism exist in B.C.?  Is
this province a hotbed of racism?
A panel of experts from the
East Indian defense committee,
the Chinese cultural centre will
discuss just that, along with Philip
Puaul, a B.C. Indian chief. It all
happens today at noon in the SUB
This panel discussion is
presented by the AMS speakers
committee, which, evidentally,
still exists.
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Writer Janet Rapoport of the
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Skating   party,   7:30  p.m.  Stardust
Roller Rink, North Van.
Guest   speaker,    Al   Argent,    noon,
SUB 207.
Forum     on     Racism,    noon,    SUB
Film, the Harder they come, noon,
IRC 2.
Exercise and dance class, 7:30 p.m.,
Armo. 208.
Dr.    Fred    Zack   on   oral   surgery,
noon,    MacDonald     building    main
CPSC soc
Speaker   David   Hughes  of  B.C. Tel
data processing, noon, Civils 201.
Meeting   of   handicapped   students,
1:30      p.m.,     Sedgewick     library
conference room.
G. Johnson with first-hand account
of China in 1976, noon, Bu. 106.
Musical     drama     on     parable     of
prodigal son, noon, Chem. 250.
Instructional workshop, noon, SUB
Group    meditation    and    advanced
lecture, noon, Buto. 297.
Bill Hill on Campus Practise, noon,
SUB 224.
Hugh   Wilson   on   education   as   an
instrument of government policy in
South-east     Asia:     the     Singapore
example, 3:30 p.m., Bu. penthouse.
Practice session, noon, SUB 212.
Organizational     meeting,     8    p.m.,
Graduate Student Centre ballroom.
Une  conference sur les universities
en France et en Quebec,  midi, Bu.
General meeting, noon, SUB 215.
(SUB FILMS presents
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Coffee house with Bruce Griffin's
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A Baha'i perspective of prospects
for religious unity, noon,  Bu.  205.
Cantonese class, $4 for members,
$16 for non members, noon, Bu.
Ballroom dancing, 7 p.m.,
International house.
Work     party     to     prepare     TA
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Forum    on   the   struggle   in   South
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Organizational meeting for weekend
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Career     planning    seminar,    noon,
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The graduate students represent a vital and vigorous part of the
soul of this academic community. As such we should be
contributing to the running of this university at all appropriate
levels. In these times of severe financial cutbacks it is essential
that we make our collective voice heard in order to preserve and
improve the quality of education both for graduate students and
for the university as a whole. I have had considerable experience
in university affairs elsewhere in Canada and I feel that I can use
this experience productively as your A.M.S. representative.
I recognize that most graduate students don't have time for much
involvement in student organizations. Therefore, to be assured of
the benefits to which you're entitled, you need to elect a
representative who will devote his energy to protecting your
Some issues which I would address as GSA executive member and
AMS representative are:
1) Responsible operation of the Grad Centre.
2) Compensation of teaching assistants.
3) Limiting student fee increases.
| 4) Maintaining a visible and responsive Grad Association.
As qualifications, I submit several years experience in student
organizations and student administration relations. More importantly, I offer a total commitment to serving your needs.
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Monday, November 29
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Page 11
Council still harassing Chevron
WATERLOO (CUP) — Assault
charges and countercharges,
disconnected phones and seized
equipment, legal battles and
charges of censorship fill the air as
the dispute between the University
of Waterloo student council and the
student newspaper it has disowned
enters the third month.
In its latest move the UofW'
council ordered the telephones of
the Chevron disconnected Wednesday after a scuffle between student
president Shane Roberts and
Chevron staff erupted over an
attempt by Roberts to remove
equipment from the paper's offices
the previous day.
Assault charges from Roberts
are pending, according to Chevron
staffers Larry Hannant and Neil
Docherty, who along with news
editor Henry Hess are the defendants. The three plan to lay the
same charges against Roberts,
who the previous day removed five
cameras from the Chevron offices
in the student centre.
Meanwhile, student leaders on
campus have accused the paper,
currently publishing independently
as the Free Chevron, of refusing to
print their submissions to the
paper and expelling them from
staff meetings.
Docherty admitted that
federation representative Manny
Brykman and field worker Phyllis
Burke were asked to leave a recent
Free Chevron meeting after the
staff adopted a motion banning the
participation of "enemies of the
Free Chevron."
But he said the motion was
rescinded at the next meeting after
a "long battle" among the staff
over the issue. But persons who
wish to contribute to the paper still
must sign a petition calling for the
reinstatement of the Chevron to
council funding.
Another petition calling for the
recall of Roberts from the student
presidency is circulating on
campus, according to Docherty
and Hannant.
The paper also plans legal action
to force the council to rescind its
decision    removing    the    paid
Selkirk College paper gets funds
position of Chevron news editor
and production manager, which
effectively fired Hess and
In the meantime Brykman has
circulated an open letter protesting
the expulsion of himself and others
from the Free Chevron meeting
and the "moral and financial
support" for the paper by
Canadian University Press.
CUP, a national news
cooperative of more than 70
Canadian student newspapers of
which the Chevron is a member,
has opposed the attempted closure
of the paper last September on the
grounds that the action amounts to
The council cut off funds and
attempted to eject staff members
from the Chevron offices after then
editor-in-chief Adrian Rodway
resigned, citing political pressure
from other staff members as his
reason. The council maintains that
members of a
group, the
Alliance, have
paper since a
members and
eluding Hannant and
work on the Chevron.
campus political
taken over the
number of AIA
supporters, in-
A recent offer by the council to
resume financing the paper if the
staff could produce an interim
editor until a permanent one could
be selected pending new constitutional bylaws, was rejected.
The staff continue to demand the
reinstatement of Docherty and
Hess to their jobs as the condition
by which they will resume
publication of the regular Chevron.
CASTLEGAR (CUP) — The Sounder, Selkirk
College's student newspaper, published Wednesday
for the first time since the student council froze its
funds Oct. 25.
Funds were frozen because council did not have a
treasurer, and they were unfrozen at a special
meeting Nov. 11 following Nov. 9 elections to fill
vacant council positions.
The Wednesday paper "has the financial support of
council," said new council chairman David Mot
Monday night. But council has yet to approve the
Sounder's request for a $1,300 annual budget.
Sounder staff published three "Prodigal Sounders"
without student council backing. Two were
mimeographed newsletters funded by staffers and
donated supplies and the third was a regular tabloid
size offset newspaper.
The faculty association offered a grant of $60 and a
loan and the athletics department offered a grant to
keep the Sounder going. With their financial backing
the Sounder published a tabloid issue focussing on the
election for the chairperson.
No money has yet been received from either of
these groups. A staff decision was made to approach
these groups only for the difference between the
revenue from advertising and the actual cost incurred in publishing the paper. "This will probably
amount to about $40," said Sue Horner, Sounder
The council formed a budget committee Monday
night, which will draft a budget for presentation to
the next council meeting, to be held Monday. This
committee will be deciding the priorities for council
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Thursday, November 18, 1976
Legal aid clinics offer advice
During the past year about 6,000 people
who could not afford expensive lawyers for
legal advice turned to UBC law students for
The idea of an off-campus legal aid clinic
staffed by UBC law students was at first
opposed by the university law faculty.
"The administration thought students
lacked the capability and legal knowledge to
offer worthwhile advice to clients," said
James Conrad, law 3, an executive of the
Law Students Legal Advice Program.
But since the legal aid clinics began in
1971 under the direction of Aid. Mike Harcourt, the law students have proved the
faculty wrong, setting up 17 advice clinics in
the Lower Mainland, staffed by about 180
law students.
Though the clinics depend on donations of
space and facilities such as telephones, their
operating budget has risen to between
$50,000 and $60,000 a year.
Stan Lanyon, law 3, co-ordinator of
LSLAP, said the 17 clinics are currently
handling their limit of caseloads but as news
of free legal advice spreads, he expects the
clinics to expand too.
Bar supports clinic
But while the clinics offer advice to
clients, staff members have not been
allowed to represent clients in the courtroom.
"At this point we're not allowed to actively participate in even the small claims
proceedings," Conrad said.
But Lanyon said the group's importance
has been recognized by the Vancouver law
"Bar members are all supporting the
program overwhelmingly, and there are
over 100 established lawyers helping in the
project," Lanyon said.
LSLAP handles only summary conviction
cases, those involving fines up to $500 or six
months in jail. These could include assault,
impaired driving and soft drug convictions.
But the law students offer advice on a
wide range of legalities from landlord and
tenant problems, to marital relations to last
will and testament documents.
The law students are backed by five
professional lawyers, headed by John
Stanton, who oversees the work, ensuring
that the advice suggested is the best
"It's a unique operation in British
Columbia and one of the best of its kind in
the country," Conrad said.
Simon Fraser university has no law
faculty and the University of Victoria's law
school was only recently established.
Many of the clients seeking help from the
law students are welfare recipients who
come to the clinics because they simply
can't find cheap legal advice.
"If we didn't help with the paper work,
these people wouldn't have their day in
court at all," Conrad said.
One of the clinics operates Tuesdays in
SUB 234 from noon to 2:30 p.m. Beside the
legal problems of the outside world, UBC
students have been told how to deal with
appeals to the university judicial bodies
such as the senate.
While the law students have been sup
ported and admired by the Vancouver legal
community, the UBC administration is
examining the project.
UBC worried
Though the faculty has no direct affiliation with LSLAP, law dean Ken Lysyk
has set up a committee to investigate the
proceedings of the program.
And the program staffers are apprehensive about the study.
If the dean's committee withdraws support from the LSLAP the scope of the
program, which is now virtually unlimited,
could be limited.
"Some of the faculty members are opposed to the program because they fear it
will give a bad name to the faculty or the
university should we make a major mistake
somewhere," Lanyon said.
But if the university is worried, the B.C.
Law Society is not. The work of the students
in the Vancouver community is supported
by more than 100 lawyers and judges. The
success of the student venture over the past
five years is well known to bar associations
across Canada and the U.S.
"With the legal advice clinics stabilized,
we're now trying to find new directions for
the program, preferably with UBC support," Conrad said.
And the second direction for the law
students is a legal research program.
Lanyon said the program will charge
lawyers $15 per hour for doing research on
cases they submit to the law students.
The students who do the research will be
paid $6 per hour, about $3 will go toward
LEGAL ADVICE . . . Harvey Blackmore, law 1, gets advice from David Pedlow, law 2
. . . law advice co-ordinator
administration and another $6 will go back
to the student researchers to do further
This program, which began this year on
Oct. 1, will respond to requests from community groups needing legal research done.
"By compiling a system of precedents, the
program could be instrumental in the area
of law reform," Lanyon said.
But the Vancouver Community Legal
Assistance Society is opposed to UBC law
students entering into the area of legal
"Like UBC they're afraid of the liability
involved and the tarnishing of reputations,"
Lanyon said.
Lanyon said the research program could
help support the work of the legal aid
program and relieve some of the financial
burdens of law students.
Work constructive
"Even with the incoming money, we're
still a non-profit, selfsupporting group,"
Lanyon said.
Members of the LSLAP executive are
Lanyon, Conrad, Mark McEwen, John
Neilsen, Ruth Taylor and Al McDonald.
The group was incorporated as a society
Wednesday for legal and social research.
"A critical part of the research ahead will
of course be money," Conrad said, "but it's
also important to have the backing of the
university behind us, something which is in
question right now."
Lanyon said the work of the law students
is probably one of the most constructive
ventures a UBC group has ever undertaken
in terms of servicing the needs of both
students and the community.
"The legal aid program is a beneficial
experience for both law students and the
clients. But it's just beginning to realize its
potential now," Conrad said.
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