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The Ubyssey Sep 17, 1982

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Vol. LXV, No. 2
Vancouver, B.C. Friday, September 17,1982
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' Amid university cutbacks,
election rumours and controversy over his tenure Pat McGeer
finally gave in to the Ubyssey's
request for an interview. It has
taken many months of trying and
we're not sure why he's done it
now. But on Sept. I Ubyssey
staffers Arnold Hedstrom and
Charles Campbell talked to Dr.
McGeer at his office on campus
at the Kinsman Institute. Here is
an edited text of the interview.
tells all
What is your reaction to the 32 percent tuition fee increase at UBC this
year? Do you think it was excessive?
Fees as a percentage of the cost of
university operation have been declining
quite substantially so that fees nowadays
are the greatest bargain that they have
ever been in Canada, even with the increases that took place last year. There
are some countries like Australia that
charge no fees at all, but on the other
hand, they make much higher demands
than we do in Canada because they limit
emrolment. In countries like Japan they
not only put very high limits on enrolment, but they charge high fees as well.
So for the combination of low cost to
the student and a wide range of
academic opportunity.
Now Canadian universities are under
the jurisdiction of the provinces and
despite what was stated in Ottawa, the
costs are borne by the provincial
treasury so that the support is really a
matter of the generosity from provincial
revenue sources. Compared to other
provinces in Canada, B.C. is really one
of the most generous because our fees
are amongst the lowest in the country.
At the same time, I believe B. C. is second lowest in the country in terms of
university funding ?
Oh no. We're amongst the highest.
And you know I had a little contest last
year when I said if you can find people
that have greater increases to the universities than has B.C., with the one exception of Alberta that gave that enormous
amount for capital expansion, I'd offer
a $100 prize.
See page 12: McGeer
Tenured professor or Socred minister?
Pat McGeer's tenure as universities, science
and communications minister is loaded with
ironies and contradictions. He is an academic
in a cabinet of car dealers; a believer in
education in premier Bill Bennet's "simple
country boy" government. He is a man with
a vision of high technology industry for
British Columbia in a political party that
views this province as a clearing house for
natural resources.
As well, Pat McGeer has arrived at his present position by a strange route on which he
has criticized many things he now has to
answer for. It's an awkward situation, at
best, for a man who claims he's true to the
ideals he preached twenty years ago.
History has seen him say that education is
a priority in the development of the ec onomy
and that the lack of education is a drain on
the provincial treasury. Nineteen sixty-five
saw him suggest that students with fust class
marks should not be charged tuition so that
more student aid money would be available
for the passing student.
"The very purpose of the educational
system is defeated when capable people reject
educational opportunity because the price is
a deterrent," McGeer said. "Our economy
has been handicapped by a shortage of much
larger infusions of highly skilled people and
our government resources drained by the unskilled and the unemployed. In the near
future, money must go to our educational institutions."
Yet now he talks about the lack of
economic leverage that government services
have in improving the economy.
McGeer talks about everybody taking less
in order to maintain existing jobs. Yet his
rhetoric bounces around between that ideal
and the continuing belief that skilled workers
are important to an improved economy.
And people are still rejecting the opportunity to acquire those skills. Enrollment is
up admittedly, but only because many
students are mortaging their future for their
Meanwhile the provincial government
refuses to run a deficit to invest in human
Mature students, women students and
students from outlying areas all have special
problems in terms of accessibility that
government and university policy do little to
address. For many in these groups, going to
university is still prohibitively expensive.
Programs that McGeer has brought in, like
the Knowledge Network and the Open Learning Institute, have done much to spread
educational opportunity around. But there
are still many forms of education that are
available only at major universities.
McGeer dismisses the possibility of the
provincial government stepping in to increase
aid by shifting responsibility to the universities. "That's up to the president and the
board. They can put bursaries at the top of
their list of priorities or they can put them at
the very bottom." Of course that answer ignores the provincial responsibility for grant
money as opposed to university administered
bursary money.
The answer simply reflects, in a broad way,
McGeer's response to criticism he is uncomfortable with. He shifts responsibility to
others, either to the universities' senates,
board of governors and administrators on the
one hand, or to the federal government on
the other.
"The government is just a banker for the
universities," he says adding that one
wouldn't want the minister to be telling the
universities how to spend their money.
But that curt answer ignores two things.
The first is that the universities can only
work within the budget that the provincial
government provides. At present the money
provided ignores both the special problems
of students and the economic value of education.
The second thing is the fact that government does influence the spending priorities of
the universities. If Pat McGeer was his own
critic he would no doubt say that any other
approach would be irresponsible.
Pat McGeer's strength is that he has a vision of what universities should be and he
acts on it. Whether one likes what McGeer
does with his influence or not, he is not just a
McGeer sees that people who share his vision of universities are put in positions of
responsibility, whether they are people appointed to the universities council of British
Columbia to the Various boards of governers
(11 of 15 positions at UBC).
"You want to appoint leaders who will
lead," McGeer says. He would never allow
that he doesn't consider where they are going
to go.
Of course it is the provincial government
that dictates where capital expenditures are
made. It is the provincial government that initiates projects like the Discovery Parks (industrial research parks associated with
university and college campuses) that
strengthen the connection between business
and universities.
And there are all the subtler means of influencing priorities. There is the ever present
possibility that if university spending doesn't
coincide with government priorities, future
budget allocations may suffer.
What is unfortunate about McGeer's vision of universities is that it leaves out so
many things. There is McGeer's disdain for
the value, both economic and social, of a
liberal arts education. There is his desire to
turn universities into collections of professional schools where faculties are isolated
from one another and a broad based education becomes less and less possible.
Another element that McGeer would like
to leave out of his vision of universities is student representation. "The basic thing, I
think, that has to be realized about universities is that they're not democracies," he
said in 1975.
"I know of no university in the world that
has been furthered in its own standards by
the appointment of students to the board of
governors or to the senate. If there are people
who can stand up in this assembly and tell me
of universities that have prospered in that
way I would like to know of them."
One irony remains in spite of McGeer's
shortcomings. McGeer still believes very
strongly in the value of higher education,
both for the economy and for the individual,
and he remains the lone academic in a cabinet
of entrepeneurs.
Asked if his position as the strongest voice
in defence of university funding in the Socred
cabinet was one of his reasons for staying on,
McGeer paused a long time before answering
But it's obvious that the man who has long
expressed a desire to retire from politics, had
something in mind when he decided not to
quit. He said his particular talents would be
of use of use to the government and to the
people of the province during this economic
That begs the question; what talents does
have to offer?
The answer shows McGeer to be more consistent than his rhetoric would lead one to expect. It is that McGeer knows that university
funding will suffer much more without his
presence in the cabinet. McGeer realizes Bill
Bennett and company are still a clearing
house government, that they have little concern for the knowledge-based industry that
the province needs and will not act to protect
the province from the ups and downs of a
resource based economy without him. But his
influence isn't enough. Unfortunately,
McGeer can't do much more than keep the
Socreds from selling all the cars in B-lot. Page 2
Friday, September 17, 1982
Puce blorgs on this tiny island community have gone on rampage
against rock and roll. Blorgs, accustomed to blindly following newly found messiahs, threw all
DC/AC and Baab albums into a
giant pile in the town square and
burned them after travelling indoc-
trinator Ikki Yappi told them rock
and roll was the work of Satan.
"Listen to good music like
Lawrence Welk and Guy Lombar-
do," said Yappi. "After all, Guy
has gone to the good place, 1
hope," said the island's latest cult
As Yappi and the blorgs danced
around the flames, they sang Yap-
pi's version of Stairway to Heaven.
"When you get there you know, all
that glitters is God, you're climbing
the stairway to heaven with me."
Blorgs became disillusioned
with Yappi when they played his
new song backwards and discovered
comments critical of Yappi.
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Cp. Sc. students reprogrammed
A number of computer science
students have been deprogrammed.
When they went to register last
week, some actual and potential
computer science majors discovered
that "program approval does not
guarantee entrance into courses."
Students registering on Thursday
and Friday found that some of the
third and fourth year courses they
needed to complete their major requirements were full, Hugh Dempster,    computer   science   under
graduate advisor, said Thursday.
As a result, these students have
been put on a waiting list and some
of them will be "bounced out" of
the computer science program, said
The course restrictions are due to
the large number of undergraduates
wanting to take third and fourth
year computer science courses, said
Dempster. The department doesn't
have the resources to cope with the
number of students, he said, and
decided to establish course enrollment limitations.
The size of the department can't
be increased due to financial
restraints and because it is difficult
to find people to fill vacant teaching
positions, said Dempster.
Pat Darragh, a third year computer science student, said he can
"forget about the year as far as
computer science is concerned."
Course restrictions pushed him into
becoming a part-time student
because there weren't many choices
— rick katz photo
"ALRIGHT, WHERE is he? I know that little troublemaker is around here somewhere," snooping student says as
he prowls the UBC campus in search of ever elusive Pat McGeer. Student later identif ed himself as freelance journalist out to equal recent heroic exploits of two Ubyssey reporters who somehow managed to get interview with
timid politico. "Oh well, maybe I can interview Doug when he gets back from his holiday in the Orient," aspiring
scribe muttered. Cub was last seen walking in direction of SUB 241k.
Marrow vote creates department
Four students will graduate next
year at an extra cost of $50,000 to
the university.
A motion to approve departmental status for the division of orthopaedics was overwhelmingly
passed by senate members at their
Wednesday meeting.
Medicine dean William Webber
said orthopaedics would need an
additional $50,000 a year to
transform the division into a
department. Costs would cover
raises of up to $6,000 in administrator's   salaries,   additional
secretarial staff and other expenses.
Although four students will
graduate from the five year program each year, a medicine faculty
review committee believed recent
trends towards specialization in the
area justified departmental status,
according to a senate submission.
But student caucus senator Lisa
Hebert voiced her concern over the
hasty expansion when cutbacks are
imminent in the near future. "I am
concerned about the lack of
financial foresight", she said after
the meeting.
Some   student   caucus   senators
Researcher maimed
OTTAWA (CUP) — A University of Ottawa graduate student was
seriously maimed while working on
a project involving a new anticancer chemical.
Jim Freed lost one hand and
three fingers, suffered minor burns
and cuts to his chest and neck.
Lydia Radzevicius, an assistant who
was working with him at the time,
suffered minor burns to her feet.
Freed was conducting a chemical
reaction experiment when the
substances he was mixing exploded,
shattering the fume hood he was
working under.
Chemistry department officials
are unable to explain why the explosion happened. Chemistry department chair Tony Durst said he is
completely baffled by the accident.
"1 have thought it through I
don't know how many times. I
don't want to speculate but I don't
think it would be fair to blame it on
poor safety in the lab or on any
carelessness on Jim's part," said
He added that Freed was working
with very small quantities of
chemicals that can cost up to
$30,000 per kilogram.
An inquiry commission, headed
by a member of the National
Research Council, was immediately
initiated by the university but has
yet to make a report.
According to Durst, however, the
only person who really knows why
the accident occured is Freed who
refuses to comment on it.
A small explosion occured in the
same lab two years ago when a
mislabeled bottle of potassium
metal was left in a sink. Chemistry
professor John Holmes, who was in
the room when the explosion occured, narrowly escaped injury.
also opposed the motion. Medicine
student representative Mike Mc-
Cann supported the move.
Acting surgery department head
A.D. Forward, in a written submission also disagreed with Webber.
General principles of medical
undergraduate studies would
benefit most with orthopaedics remaining a division of surgery, he
said. Orthopaedics is a strong division as it stands and already has
great freedom in the department of
surgery, he added.
* • *
In other business, senate approved the establishment of an ad hoc
committee to study the "minimum
breadth" requirements of
undergraduate programs.
Forestry Dean Joseph Gardiner
said the new committee's decision
cannot be held up indefinitely. He
also questioned what constituted
"good breadth" when the committee was asked to suspend approval
of new and major program changes
on that basis.
Senate overwhelmingly rejected a
motion from psychology head Peter
Suedfeld to suspend major program
approval until the committee
reports to senate.
* * *
Jim Martin, principal of the Vancouver School of Theology complained about the high volume of
UBC's open air concerts. "It was so
loud, il was incredible," he said.
No anti-noise by-law exists for the
campus or University Endowment
lands but administration president
Doug Kenny said there is no need
for by-laws or police intervention.
Kenny hoped civility would come
by "intellectual means."
left to him when he was not admitted to the course he needed to complete his degree, he said. Although
he was put on the waiting list for the
course, he doesn't see a chance to
get in since 120 students wanted to
enroll, while the course limit was
The department is not restricting
enrollment to students with higher
qualifications and academic standings. "Trying to maintain standards means limitation," said
"I'm not mad. I'm
disappointed," said Vic Shumuk,
science 3, about his failure to regain
admittance to computer science.
Shumuk took computer science 215
two years ago when a passing grade
was a sufficient prerequisite to computer science 315.  A 60 per cent
grade is now required to take 315,
and it is too late for him to improve
his previous grade, Shumuk said.
Dempster estimated there were 70
first year students on the waiting
lists, and about 40 to 50 third and
fourth year students. The holdups
are especially rough on third and
fourth year students who wish to
carry on in computer science but
have been denied their chosen major, said Dempster. He is advising
those students to choose another
An effort was made last year to
notify students about the new entrance requirements, said Dempster. But since the information
about the new entrance requirements was not submitted in
time, it was not included in the
1982-83 UBC calendar.
Cockroaches still
thrive in Acadia
"Some people flip out if they see
one cockroach, other people accept
them as a way of life," Nicola
Rowe, chair of the Acadia Park
highrise cockroach committee, said
Byron and Susan Brandle are two
members of the flip out school of
thought. Two UBC students from
out of town, they accepted, unseen,
an on-campus apartment in the
highrise. What they saw, upon arriving at the apartment earlier this
month, was roaches.
According to housing department
director Mary Flores, the Brandies
then demanded the department
guarantee in their lease that the problem be eliminated.
"They didn't approve of ongoing
chemical fumigation," said Flores.
"There's no way we can guarantee
the highrise will be free from insects
with one treatment."
The Brandies were temporarily
housed in the Gage lowrise, and
finally elected to live off-campus,
said Flores.
Nicola Rowe and the cockroach
committee, which has existed for six
years do not give up so easily.
"We are basically trying to create
a hostile environment to
cockroaches," Rowe said. This includes methods as diverse as the use
of electric traps, roach hotels, boric
acid, and simply taping over holes
in walls and floors from which the
roaches emerge.
The housing department's participation in this project is minimal,
Rowe said, but that pleases her. "I
like the way they put it in the hands
of the tenants," she said.
Bruce Williams, former Acadia
Park tenants' association president,
is less impressed with the department's attitude. "We were not very
successful at getting a high level of
co-operation from the
Milligan is quite possibly the
leading expert on the roach situation in Acadia highrise. Once a
UBC undergradate, he is now completing his master's thesis at SFU on
pest management at Acadia.
A long time member of the
cockroach committee, he describes
the roach infestation at the highrise
as "heavy."
"Roaches are relatively uncommon in B.C., Milligan said, and the
infestation at the highrise, which is
estimated at several million, can be
very disturbing to people with low
roach tolerance.
He has studied the causes for the
unusual infestation for years and is
now "100 per cent convinced the infestation is a result of the unusually
See page 8: HOUSING
ACADIA —   millions of cockroaches Page 4
Friday, September 17, 1982
Where ...?
We have it from a UBC career man that the lineups at the armoury this
year set a new university record. At its height, the line commenced at the
entrance of the armoury, went up the concrete steps, meandered past
Music, hung a right at Lassarre, and finally collapsed in despair in front of
Sedgewick library.
Where did they all come from? In classes that rightfully should draw a
crowd of eleven or so, 40 people were perching on window sills, or on each
other, apparently willing to suffer any hardship to have the mysteries of
thirteenth century petit point design and construction explained to them.
Enrollment is up all over the mainland, and somehow we doubt it's due to a
B.C. renaissance.
"Oh, that magic feeling, no place to go . . ."
That's what's sending students lemming-like to the cliffs of UBC.
There's nowhere to go. No jobs.
But being a student is somehow nicer. When you're a student surviving
below the poverty line, living in a co-op tent, taking money from your folks,
or the government, you're not on the dole — you're being financially
assisted through post-secondary education. The working class is still a
long way away.
In the harshest of financial lights, the myth finally breaks down.
Academia is not a bastion against the vaguaries of the "real" world.
Books are tricky to get at, like every year, and once you get to them,
they are overpriced. Student loans are being cut back, student aid increasingly tricky to get and the few bucks that anyone manages to save from a
summer of poorly paid work just doesn't go as far as it used to.
And Mom and Dad don't have quite as much to give this year either.
Horrible as it may be, come January students who innocently believed
that school was the perfect place to ride this nasty time out are going to
realize they're about to be booted from this haven as well, into the realm of
the other side.
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B&LLA Between classes.
'Palmistry, ESP, spiritualism can be harmful'
Later this month a four-day 'ESP
Psychic Fair' will be held at the
PNE with various 'consciousness-
expanding' booths presenting
psychic and spiritual wares. Due to
the popularity of various 'ESP'
tricks such as palmistry, reading
minds and moving objects it is likely a wide cross-section of people, including families, will consider attending to 'have some fun' and
perhaps discover the secret location
of the family jewels through communication with a dead relative.
Similar wares are posted up all
over this campus, claiming to give
various kinds of special experiences
and mystical insights. It must be
stated that most of these powers do
not come from divine sources and
are often produced through spirit
possession which means one's own
will and personality has been taken
over by another. Many of the
claims publicized by 'spiritual' and
'psychic' individuals and organizations sound enticing.
But like drugs they entice and entrap many seekers of the truth and
produce disastrous effects upon the
seeker's sanity and emotional and
mental - and spiritual - health. They
are insidious because their dangers
are   not   apparent   until   much
damage has been done and the
seeker may have lost all his possessions, friends, and sometimes his
Not all powers contribute to the
central path. Visions, voices, levita-
tirn, communications with the dead
and astral projection make our ego
think that we are special. But these
powers and techniques are detours
that confuse, if not destroy, our
true seeking.
When choosing a spiritual path
or a guru ask these questions:
1) Is money taken at any time? The
truth cannot be owned, it cannot be
bought or sold.
Reality comes to bus riders
A good thing couldn't last. The
Metro Transit Operating company
finally has changed the transfer
system so that avid transit transfer
collectors like myself can no longer
"rip-off" the system.
It is too bad. Since the two hour
transfer system was established,
I've saved, on average, about 75
cents a day. The only trips I paid
any fare for were the ones when
nobody was at the stop flashing a
transfer so I couldn't raid my collection for the right letter of the
alphabet to get a free ride. Even
then I found I could usually short
change the box 35 or 40 cents. Now
the date is written directly on the
transfer, colour coded and the time
doesn't repeat for a.m. and p.m.
That's the rip-off.
It is a ripoff because the Vancouver transit system is not worth
the money. The service is either irregular or overcrowded. I don't
think that the MTOC can be to concerned with collecting fares if they
make customers wait for three
buses between Alma and UBC in
the morning peak periods. A 40
minute wait at 11 p.m. on the Dunbar route is too long. And why does
the Spanish Banks bus run every
half hour on those warm summer
days when some people may prefer
to take a bus to the beach instead of
fight ciowded parking lots.
But all is not lost. I plan to take a
transfer when I get on the bus. And
MTOC can be sure that I'll be giving it to someone at the stop where I
get off the bus so someone won't
have to pay the fare.
And if I can't give it away, who
knows, maybe next year on Sept. 12
around 11 p.m., I'll take a bus and
be able to use the same transfer. Or
will they change the color next
I am not signing my name. Direct
action, even when justified, often
brings hassles. But everyone ought,
to work against MTOC cuts and un-
fare (sic) policies.
Name withheld by request
To err is The Ubyssey
With pleasure I launched into a
fifth year of reading you, and with
glee I write to claim the uncovering
of two errors.
First and least, most of the fraternities own their own houses; what
the provincial government planned
(and still considers implementing) is
a severe increase in the lease of the
land on which stand the houses.
And on that note please allow me
to take mild offence at the
desperate tone of Shaffin Shariff's
article on housing. For three weeks
now the Sigma Chi fraternity has
had a notice posted at the student
housing   office:   comfortable
carpeted furnished rooms with
board to rival your mother's, all for
$2,800. This includes the rich social
life of the Greek system and our
proven scholastic program. And
colour TV and foozball.
Shariffs final sentences closer
approach my viewpoint — to be optimistic, fellow students; between
$2,000 gifts from the government,
part-time jobs, and appeals to mom
and dad, you should be able to
finance living and studying at this
wonderful university. And reading
this wonderful newspaper.
Timothy Bult
Sigma Chi fraternity
2) Are you pressured as if by
salesmen? The truth is not dependent on salesmanship. You should
feel in your heart by your own conviction the value of th path being
offered. If you are in doubt and
under duress, leave. Do not be
3)Can you, yourself, feel the effect
of the technique? The truth just is
and can be experienced without
anyone trying to convince you of it
through argument.
4) Do they ask you to wear unusual
dress, adopt strange postures, or
submit you to wild chanting? The
truth does not have to be attained
through strenuous efforts. It is the
strength and purity of your desire
which counts, not the harshness of
their tests.
5) Is the path righteous? Does it
uphold such basic divine teachings
as the ten commandments, followed
by the sages, yogis and great men of
the past which lead one to the centre, or will it lead to bizarre experiences of a subconscious or
superconscious nature?
6) Are the members of the organization, including the guru or leader,
people you can trust? Are you comfortable with them? Do they display
love and joy? Is the value of what
they are teaching evident in their
speech and behaviour?.
7) Is your freedom of choice
respected, to leave or continue?
Follow your heart, do not be seduced by flattery to your ego. Give
heed to your fears or misgivings and
do not be manipulated by professional slick techniques.
The most valuable power that
anyone can give us is the power to
discriminate between right and
wrong. It is an inborn power to
which we each have a right. With
the ability to discriminate we can be
our own guru, we can distinguish
those cults founded on false
powers, on fake gurus after our
money, and on experiences which
invite possession. We can also, with
the certainty of our own spirit,
discern the path which speaks from
the heart and will satisfy our lifelong seeking.
This is a warning to be careful in
your seeking. Trust your heart.
Eclectic sampling is harmful and
can be very dangerous. Seek out the
Truth and be clear enough to
recognize it when you find it.
Mark Taylor
asian studies 3
September 17, 1982
The Ubyssey is published every Tuesday and Friday
through the university year by the Alma Mater Society
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"I'm sick of all this Gonzo bullshit!", screamed Craig Brooks. "Who the Fuck is Dr. Thompson?", asked Robert Laing and Neil Lucente. "Shut-the-Fuck-ap - all of you," ordered
Charles Campbell. "It's 1:45 a.m. and Muriel Draaisma, Sarah Cox, and Joy Taylor still have
to bring portions of the interview I lashed together this morning in the Pit?' Rick Katz, Kerry
Regier and Victor Wong sprayed mace on Ikki Yappi, while Monika Fruehe tore Peter Berlin's
clothes off, hysterically crying "let me out of this nightmare?' Kelley Jo Burke called it a
depraved and sordid act, adding that she "wouldn't even drink with a person that crazed?'
Shaffin Sharriff called it "just a plain, bad movie." I told him there was no way I'd stay past
3:30 — not even if he promised never to show up at my place drunk at five in the morning
again. Raoul Duke called to say he was glad that he didn't have to be there and that the
heroin would be held up for a while because of "serious problems?' Undaunted, Arnold
Hedstrom held Emilie Smith and Brian Jones at gunpoint with a Smith and Wesson .45 — the
kind with the walnut grip — and forced them to ingest the remaining dangerous drugs A. K.
Phynning had received through the grapevine of the wierd.d Friday, September 17,1982
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"PLEASE MOMMY I don't want to go to class" says child prodigy on way to English 100 class. Mother heard of
impending $6 million in cuts and figured offspring should get education over as soon as possible. "I think I'll
become a brain surgeon, just like Pat McGeer," said child. "Then I can do something totally different, like be a
Residence vacancies - for women
For the first time in years there
are vacancies for women in Totem
Park and Place Vanier residences,
but no one to fill them.
A residence administrator said
Thursday there has never been a
vacancy rate so early in the year and
they're eager to fill the unoccupied
The waiting list for women
awaiting accommodation in Totem
and Vanier residences has already
been gone through once, so the
rooms will now be allocated on a
first come first serve basis.
The outlook for male students
awaiting on-campus accommodation and those females waiting for
Gage is not as good. On Thursday,
50 or so hopefuls turned out at 1
p.m. for the daily calling of the
waiting list, only to find three openings for men in Gage and two each
in Totem and Vanier.
Bill Smiley, commerce 3, said
even though his application met the
deadline he ended up number 320
'The road to cutbacks'
Canadian University Press
As Simon Fraser University is cutting its library services and imposing
quotas on international students to save money, $6.8 million in university
funds is being spent on a road around the campus.
The road, which is currently under construction, is necessary for the
development of SFU's research park according to SFU physical plant and
planning director William Devries.
Six million dollars will be spent on the actual construction of the road
and $800,000 on a new parking lot, said Devries.
The project was planned a year and a half ago, he added.
Discovery parks are a joint project between the provincial government
and the three universities in B.C. The provincial government has leased
land to allow corporations to build research facilities at SFU, the University of British Columbia and the University of Victoria.
While the $6.8 million is being spent on road construction, SFU's administration recently imposed quotas on the number of international
students allowed into various programs, due to financial pressures. Last
year the university was forced to cut back on library services because of a
budget shortfall.
on the waiting list. "I've got temporary accommodation for now
and am pretty confident that
there'll be an opening soon," he
David Pittman, science 1, also
had his application in on time but
ended up number 717 on the
waiting 1 st.
"I came in from Toronto in
August and was able to find off
campus accommodation, but the
rent is higher than I expected. I'm
still hoping to get in somewhere."
Residence administrator Bob
Frampton said applying for
residence on time is no guarantee of
a room. Every year 90 per cent of
students already in residence retain
their rooms, leaving only 10 per
cent of the rooms open to new applicants.
There are still approximately
1,000 males on the waiting list but
this figure is misleading, said
Frampton. He pointed out many
people have found alternate accommodation and the number of people
showing up for the calling of
numbers on the waiting list is
Frampton said it's hard to predict
how many more openings will come
up but there are more after
He added there are currently
plans to put forward a proposal for
additional student residences to the
university administration.
UBC to cut
$6 million
The provincial government has
instructed the Universities Council
of B.C. to decrease this year's
operating grant to the three universities by $12 million, and UBC will
likely suffer the most damage.
"It looks like UBC is going to
get hit for about $6 million," Dave
Dale, student board of governors
representative, said Thursday.
UCBC was told to make the cut
in April, but the universities still
have not been told how much they
will have to cut from their 1982-83
operating grants. "It's a real
ludicrous situation," said Dale.
"You're one third of the way
through your fiscal year and you
don't know what your operating
grant is."
"They (UCBC) told us a month
ago they were chopping $12 million,
but we still don't know how much
UBC has to chop," information
services officer Al Hunter said
Wednesday. "We still don't know
how much money we've got for
1982-83," he said. "We're virtually
half way through the fiscal year and
we still don't know how much
money we've got."
But UCBC will make its decision
by Sept. 28 about how much less
each university will receive, UCBC
chair Bill Gibson said Thursday.
"We have to see the three univer
sities and we won't have made our
visit to the other two until the
twenty-eighth," he said.
UCBC officials are currently
meeting with the boards of governors of the three universities to talk
about the decrease, and the 1983-84
operating budget. UCBC met with
the UBC board of governors Thursday, and will meet with the boards
of Simon Fraser University and the
University of Victoria later this
"Until we've been the rounds I
don't think we'll know what the
division (of the $12 million cut) is
likely to be," Gibson said.
Dale declined to disclose the
details of the meeting between the
UBC board and UCBC.
On Tuesday the board held a
special meeting to prepare for the
meeting with UCBC, but Dale also
limited his comment on it.
"I'm not allowed to disclose
what happened until it's finalized,"
said Dale. "The discussion centred
on (universities minister Pat)
McGeer and then they went
through the presentation of what
they were going to say to UCBC."
But the board didn't budget for a
tuition fee increase for 1983-84 in
its operating grant proposal, Dale
said. The board might have to reevaluate this, depending on
UCBC's decision about the 1982-83
grants, Dale added.
Daycare to close?
Fire departments usually put out
fires, not children.
But because the Acadia Park
daycare centre is a fire hazard and is
not accessible to fire equipment,
UBC's fire marshall has condemned
the huts in which it is housed. It
could face closure if the facilities
aren't improved.
Two hundred and fifty children
are currently enrolled in the centre.
Seventy per cent of these are the
children of students, 20 per cent of
faculty members and 10 per cent of
local residents.
"The majority of these children
belong to students and the needs of
these students are often forgotten,"
Dave Frank, Alma Mater Society
president, said Thursday.
Frank, who met with Nathan
Divinsky, chair of the president's
advisory committee on daycare,
said Divinsky is trying to find
$200,000 to renovate the centre and
keep it open.
"If the situation stays the same,
D-day for the daycare centre could
be before December," Frank said.
He said Divinsky is hoping
students can raise $50,000. The
money would come from the proposed $20 AMS fee levy which is
being called to  a referendum  in
"I hope to get some feed-back
from students on the idea of including some funding for the
daycare centre in the fee levy," said
"Maybe if students raise $50,000,
it'll shame the ministry of human
resources into giving more money,"
he added.
The board of governors cannot
fund daycare because they are not
responsible for it, and their finances
are ear-marked for education, said
Chicken little?
The aquatic centre suffered a
"freak accident" four months ago
when two skylights fell out, Aquatic
centre manager Jim Bremner said
The skylights have not been fixed
because the centre is still taking
repair estimates and no one has
been hired to do the job, Bremner
Although the glass, is less than
five years old there is no warranty
on it, Bremner said, adding that the
installation company assured the
centre the skylights could only fall
out once in 40 years.
Registrations 'lost'
The misplacement of 1,700 course selection cards has been termed
insignificant by the registrar's office.
Three trays of computer registration cards were not transcribed
onto UBC's computer because of a card jam in the computer,
associate registrar John Piercy said Thursday. The accident happened Friday afternoon, but was not discovered until Monday morning,
he said. Class lists, usually made available to faculty the Monday or
Tuesday following registration, were delayed a couple of days by the
mistake, said registrar Ken Young.
"This is not an unusual occurance for this time of year," Piercy
said. "But it sure causes a lot of bloody sweat and pain for those involved."
Piercy said those with the pain were 30 registrar's office staff who
worked all Monday night to fix the records. All 1,700 course selections had to be typed into the computer by hand, he said.
Any mistakes found should be taken to the registrar's office where
they will be dealt with, Piercy added. Page 6
Friday, September 17,1982
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There is an extensive non-credit instructional program covering a
wide variety of sport/recreational activities
Registration for all classes will take place during regular office hours at the Intramural 8- Recreational Sports Office
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Room 203, War Mem. Gym. (Phone:
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Tuesday, September 7-Friday, September 17, 1982
Second Term Registration: Monday, January 3-Friday, January 14, 1983
PLEASE NOTE: Classes cancelled on the following holidays: TERM I
Thanksgiving Day      Monday
, Oct. 1
Rememberance Day Thursday, Nov.
Mid-Term Break       Thurs.-Fri., Feb
6:30-8:00 p.m.
Gym G-Osborne Ctre.
Sept.-Dec. 1
6:30-8:00 p.m.
Gym G-Osborne Ctre.
Jan. 17-March 30
12:30-1:30 p.m.
War Mem. Gym
Sept. 20-Oct. 8
12:30-1:30 p.m.
War Mem. Gym
March 14-April 1
12:30-2:30 p.m.
War Mem. Gym
Sept. 21-Oct. 14
12:30-2:30 p.m.
War Mem. Gym
March 8-March 31
4:30-5:30 p.m.
Weight Room-W.M.G.
Jan. 17-Feb. 9
4:30-5:30 p.m.
Weight Room-W.M.G.
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4:30-5:30 p.m.
Weight Room-W.M.G.
Oct. 25-Nov. 17
4:30-5:30 p.m.
Weight Room-W.M.G.
Feb. 21-March 16
4:30-5:30 p.m.
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Oct. 26-Nov. 23
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7:30-8:15 a.m.
SUB Ballroom
Sept. 30-Dec. 2 or
12:35-1:15 p.m.
10:00-11:00 a.m.
War Mem. Gym
Gym B West-Osborne
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4:30-5:30 p.m.
Gym B West-Osborne
Sept. 21-Dec. 2 or
12:35-1:15 p.m.
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War Mem. Gym
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Gym B West-Osborne
$1/session    Sept. 25-Nov. 27
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Gym B West-Osborne
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CLASS (Dr. S. Brown)
12:30-1:05 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Sept. 20-Dec. 2
CLASS (Dr. S. Brown)
12:30-1:05 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Jan. 17-March 31
7:00-8:30 p.m.
Gym G-Osborne Ctre
Sept. 21-0ct. 28
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7:00-8:30 p.m.
Gym G-Osborne Ctre
Jan. 18-March 1
9:30-10:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Sept. 22-0ct. 29
9:30-10:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Jan. 19-March 2
7:00-9:00 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Sept. 20-Dec. 2
7:00-9:00 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
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7:00-8:00 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
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9:00-10:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Sept. 20-Dec. 2
9:00-10:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Jan. 17-March 28
POWER SKATING (Learn To Skate)
10:30-11:30 a.m.
Thunderbird Winter Sports Ctre
Sept. 20-Dec. 1
POWER SKATING (Learn To Skate)
10:30-11:30 a.m.
Thunderbird Winter Sports Ctre
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POWER SKATING (Hockey Players)
11:30 a.m.-12:30 p.m.
Thunderbird Winter Sports Ctre
Sept. 20-Dec. 1
POWER SKATING (Hockey Players)
11:30 a.m.-12:30 p.m.
Thunderbird Winter Sports Ctre
Sept. 23-Oct. 14
(4 lessons only)
12:30-2:30 p.m.
Rm. 203 Osborne Ctre
Satuday, Oct. 16
March 3-March 24
(4 lessons only)
12:30-2:30 p.m.
Rm. 203 Osborne Ctre
Saturday, March 26
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1:30-2:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
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March 1-March 31
1:30-2:30 p.m.
Gym E-Osborne Ctre
Saturday, April 2
Sept. 23-Oct. 14
12:30-2:30 p.m.
W.M.G.- Rm. 211
Saturday, Oct. 16
Saturday, March 26
12:30-2:30 p.m.
W.M.G.- Rm. 211
Sept. 20 & Sept. 27
Oct. 4 & Oct. 11
9:00-12:00 p.m.
10:00-12:00 p.m.
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UBC Aquatic Ctre
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Sept. 22 & Sept. 29
Oct. 6£t Oct. 13
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Sunday, Oct. 17
NOTE: SCUBA CLASSES - Register with "AQUASOC" SUB Room 230B
3:30-4:30 p.m.
War Memorial Gym
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3:30-4:30 p.m.
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3:30-4:30 p.m.
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3:30-4:30 p.m.
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R'n R - The stairway to hell
They are all gone aside,
They all together become filthy,
There is none that doeth good,
No, not one.
- Psalm 14
Forgive the poor old people who gave us entry,
Taught us God in the child's prayer in the
- Jim Morrison, the Doors
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire — the
devil is behind that evil rock and roll!
Rock and roll damnation is the heavy
metal message fundamentalist preacher Nick
Pappis and the Marantha Campus Ministries
are bringing to UBC this week in an attempt
to convert boogie children into bible
Pappis believes that all rock and roll comes
straight from hell, with Satan himself playing
lead guitar. At a "fact-filled rock and roll
mini-seminar" the gospel according to Pappis made clear that:
• John Lennon was shot to death shortly
after he publicly renounced Christ. (Lennon
earlier raised the hackles of the holy when he
said the  Beatles were more popular than
Jesus ever was).
• John Hinckley shot Ronald Reagan
after listening to the Talking Heads' tune
Psycho Killer.
• Bon Scott, the late AC/DC singer, was
a dog because in the Bible the dog returns to
its own vomit. Scott asphyxiated on his own
• Jim Morrison, lead singer of the Doors
who died in 1971, was regularly "taken over
by spirits" during concerts and would
"writhe like a snake or lizard" on stage.
• Rush directly mocked Christ by putting
out an album with a Christian being sacrificed on a pentagram, which Pappis called a
demonic star.
• Several rock songs, when played
backwards, are homages to Satan. Electric
Light Orchestra's Eldorado says, "He is the
nasty one, Christ you're infernal." Rush's
Anthem states, "Oh Satan, you, you are the
one who is shining." Led Zeppelin's famous
Stairway to Heaven really leads the other way
— "My sweet Satan, no other made a path."
• Other rock songs use subliminal
messages that can be heard without being
played backwards. Blue Oyster Cult's You're
Not the One says, "Furthermore, our father
who art in heaven, Satan."
The choice Pappis gave his audience was
clear: "Either you walk with Satan or you
walk with Jesus. I believe some of you have
been walking on that highway to hell!"
Who is Nick Pappis and why is he saying
nasty things about rock and roll? Pappis is a
former music producer from the southern
United States who dropped his career for
Christianity and a shot at saving the souls of
rock ravaged students across North America.
Pappis' theology, demonstrated to about
60 people in SUB 212 Monday night, is easy
to follow. Sex, drugs and rock and roll lead
to Satan, suicide and sorcery.
Not content simply to condemn rock music
to fire and brimstone, Pappis also attacked
abortion and homosexuality as Satanic
The fundamentalist slant of Pappis'
preachings illustrates the roots of the Marantha organization. Started 10 years ago in the
southern U.S. Bible Belt after founder Bob
Wiener had a vision from God, Marantha
now has more than 60 American chapters
and three in Canada. At UBC the Marantha
Christian club is a small group that regularly
ROCK  ALBUMS  .   .   .  walking  with Satan himself?
shows   films  and holds  other  recruitment
events on campus.
The rock and roll seminar advertising was
typical of Marantha events. A large picture
of Jim Morrison was featured on a poster
that promised music, live concert footage
and slides. A large headline proclaimed "No
one here gets out alive," a line from the
Doors' Five to One and the title of a Morrison biography, and only at the bottom in
smaller print was Marantha mentioned. A
smaller poster, similarly illustrated, failed to
mention Marantha sponsorship at all.
The false advertising clearly was effective
Monday night, as it lured many unsuspecting
rock and roll fans to the event. About 10 people left in the first five minutes and others
rolled out during the two hour presentation.
More than a few people were unnerved by
Pappis' repeated focus on Satan and
cheerleading amens from the Marantha
followers in attendance.
At one point Pappis claimed that two or
three members of the audience had seriously
contemplated suicide and went on to say that
a woman in the room would soon have an
abortion. This prompted one woman to immediately leave the room in disgust.
Pappis also attempted to make fun of the
Beatles, saying, "I don't have a copy of the
White Album but who wants to look at a
white album? It's pretty boring anyway."
This brought forth derisive laughter from
Pappis and the Maranatha followers.
Pappis' method of delivery was fast, hard
and non-stop. He spoke loudly in gospel
style, repeating words and phrases, though
he stumbled occasionally.
He backed up his claims of Satanic
messages on records with tape recordings of
rock songs played backwards, but the sounds
were unintelligible.
The Marantha approach has turned off
more than just rock and rollers. George Hermanson, Lutheran United Church campus
chaplain, says that to Maranatha, the end of
saving souls from eternal damnation justifies
the means — whatever can be used to bring in
new converts.
Hermanson said in an interview that the
ultra-fundamentalist group is run by an inner
hierarchy that interprets the Bible in a particular way for the Maranatha followers,
rather than encouraging them to develop
their own interpretations individually.
On their Sandinista album, the Clash gave
their own sarcastic sum up of religious fringe
groups with a song called The Sound of the
After all this time,
To believe in Jesus,
After all those drugs,
I thought I was him.
After all my lying,
And a-crying
And my suffering,
I ain't good enough
I ain't clean enough
to be him.
Students face court after sit-in
OTTAWA—(CUP) Twenty-
eight students are about to stand
trial for their role in one of the most
dramatic occupations in Canadian
university history.
The students were arrested by 75
Universite de Moncton security
guards and city police in full riot
gear April 11, and charged with
obstruction for their role in the
takeover of the U de M administration building.
The 4 a.m. raid came as the
students were preparing to celebrate
Easter Sunday mass following a
week-long occupation to protes: a
rumoured 20 to 25 per cent increase
in tuition fees.
The students at University de
Moncton, the only unilingual
French university outside Quebec,
are among the poorest in the country. Seventy-five per cent draw student aid, compared to about one-
third nationally.
Tuition fees have risen 85 per
cent in the last five years, 23 per
cent in the last year alone. The
Board of Governors was to meet in
camera April 3 to discuss another
increase, and it refused to allow a
presentation opposing tuition fee
increases from the student government, La Federation des Etudiants
de l'Universite de Moncton
Sixty students showed for the
Board meeting, but it was moved at
the last minute to a secret location.
Although the Board agreed to meet
with the rallying students after their
meeting, only the Board president
and university president came.
The next day, 250 students decided at general meeting to occupy the
administration building. For the
first two days they also barricaded
entrances to campus, shutting down
the university.
Under pressure from the jpolice,
they relented and lowered the barricades, but most of the 1,500
students who did not join the occupation stayed away from classes,
so none were held.
During the week, 250 to 300
students slept in the administration
building at night, and 600 to 1,000
participated in meetings and
workshops during the day.
Fewer students remained in the
building overnight for fear of the
arrests which came in the middle of
the night, according to Diane
Flaherty, executive officer of the
Canadian Federation of Students.
CFS supported the occupation and
later narrowly elected one of its
leaders, Brenda Cote of FEUM, as
its chair.
UBC's student council sent a
telegram of support to the occupiers.
The protest ended suddenly with
the 28 arrests. Flaherty says she is
puzzled by the choice of those arrested because "many of the most
prominent leaders weren't
After using force to end the occupation, the university administration issued orders forbidding
assembly of more than five persons
at the U de M for any purpose other
than teaching classes for the remaining two weeks of the term.
After things quieted down in
May, the 28 arrested students appeared in court on charges of
obstruction.   All   the  cases   were
postponed to late September or early October. Flaherty said the police
may make a deal to drop charges
for 15 of the students if the other 13
plead guilty.
Soon after the court appearances,
the university began mailing out letters expelling some of the students
involved in the occupation. The administration refused to provide a
list of these students so it took
many weeks for occupation
organizers to learn that 17 had been
Fifteen of the 17 appeared before
a university committee to seek read-
mittance. Of these:
• Two were readmitted with no
conditions attached.
• Two were offered readmit-
tance only if they agreed to respect
university rules and not to participate in any legal or illegal
• Four were offered readmit-
tance subject to two additional conditions, that they agree not to hold
any positions with any organization
on campus and not to attend any
student meetings or other activities.
• Seven were flatly denied read-
Three of the six offered conditional readmission refused.
The occupying students claimed a
partial victory when tuition fees
were raised 12.9 per cent, instead of
the rumoured 20 to 25 per cent.
Flaherty said although there were
some special circumstances at U de
Moncton, incidents like the occupation will become more common.
"1 guess there comes a point
when the frustration sets in and
students decide something has to be
done," she sajd. "Chances are we'll
see more of this, not necessarily occupations, but similar tactics."
She said planning for some of
these 'similar tactics' will come out
of the CFS Week of Information in
October. She expected that this spring will be marked by the use of
political lobbying, leafletting to the
general public, sit-ins and
demonstrations across Canadian
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Housing embarrassed
From page 3
high temperature maintained in the
building year round."
Temperatures in the kitchens and
bathrooms, the main roach population centres, are a constant 75
degrees farenheit without the heat
being turned on. The building's
hallways are an average 80 degrees,
It is crucial to roach reduction to
maintain temperatures of lower
than 72, Milligan said. That is one
of the areas he had a substantial
lack of co-operation from the housing department.
"We (the cockroach committee)
put forth a number of suggestions
for dealing with the problem, but
the housing department acted on
few of them," he said.
At one point the committee suggested to Ken Simpson, on-campus
housing maintenance supervisor,
that the heat be turned off in the
building. After a year and a half of
being assured that it could not be
done, the committee obtained the
plans to the highrise, and showed
Simpson where the valve to shut the
heat oft' was.
Despite hassles, both Rowe and
Mulligan believe pursuing alternatives to fumigation is necessary.
"It's totally ineffective," said
Rowe. The building has been completely fumigated twice since 1968,
the last time at a cost to the university of $6,000, said Milligan. Within
six months the building was totally
The highrise has in the past been
fumigated with the controversial
chemical Baygon, but Dursban, a
chlorine-based pesticide, is now used in the apartment's fumigations
which occur every year.
Milligan said Baygon is believed
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by some researchers to be carcinogenic, while "there are a lot of
skeletons in Dursban's closet as
He said the best weapon against
the roaches is information. He was
a major contributor to the committee's handbook, "This place has
bugs," whose printing the tenants'
association funded.
The situation with the Brandies.
could have been completely avoided
if the students had been warned by
the housing department about the
roaches, Milligan said.
The pamphlet was given to the
housing department for distribution, but after three months the
department stopped giving it out.
"Several people in the housing
department have said to me that
they would be embarrassed to have
it widely known that they have a
building with cockroaches."
We're the Ombudsoffice and we are looking
for enthusiastic young people like yourself
to become a member of this fast growing
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To Raoul Duke who said, "this is the time of
fear and loathing we've been waiting for".
It was still only 7:00 a.m., June 12, 1982,
and I was shivering on this street corner
across from the United Nations building, exhausted from averaging four hours sleep a
night for the past week in this consuming
metropolis, and from driving to Washington
and back the day before at a ferocious pace
in a pissing rain. My mind was floating
somewhere between wondering how I'd
manage to get through this day which promised to be filled with treachery, heat, bar-
networks are monopolizing everything. We'll
have to use guerrilla tactics!"
Keith sighed, "Oh God . . . where will it
end?" "At Central Park you filthy bastard,"
I injected. "Didn't you read your press-kit?
If you weren't so affected by that perverse
habit of yours (enjoying carnal knowledge of
barnyard animals), and wandering around
here like some extra from The Night the
Zombies Invaded Fat City, as well as being
under the illusion that you work for CBS,
then maybe we could actually get something
It was decided that our crew would cover
the UN stage for the morning, which had
people like Coretta King, Susan Sarandon,
Bella Abzug, Barry Commoner, Russell
Means, James Taylor, and Peter, Paul, and
Mary lined up. We'd also wander through
the crowd picking up "person-on-the-street"
interviews.  The second crew would move
We also talked to Barry Commoner, who's
a microbiologist and activist. He's written
books on ecology and energy, and ran for
president in 1980 on the Citizen's Party
ticket. When the June 12 rally committee
split in April into two competing factions
over the issue of which members would sit on
the steering committee, Commoner quietly
helped patch things up behind the scenes. He
said it was time to turn these demonstrations
into direct political power by "for example,
the June 12th movement insisting this fall
that every candidate for office take a peace
pledge for the freeze, for real disarmament,
for a huge cut in the military budget, and for
pulling our cities and towns, like New York,
out of the civil defence program."
Looking at the set-up for the day, I
wondered how they were going to run a rally
at both the UN and Central Park, especially
when anyone would be swept past the stage at
and a sense of possibility. What the fuck has
our generation produced? . . . Our generation of doom which is too goddamn COOL
and REALISTIC to be committed to
IDEALS. That's why, or maybe because,
we've never fought for anything . . . just
resigned ourselves to the ebbing tide eating
away at what's left of the foundation of
Justice and Freedom. And that might just as
easily explain why the concerts we see don't
have artists who dress in ruffled shirts and
run amok on stage doing a song like Wild
Thing, then light their guitar on fire; or
maybe that's why we aren't going to have a
Woodstock — not that I'd want to spend any
amount of time with all you paranoid
fuckers. And while I'm at it, I'll remind
everyone in the Herpes Generation that it was
that "other" generation which was responsible for sexual liberation, Apocalypse Now,
and this goddamn anti-nuclear demonstration we're talking about.
ricades, thousands of cops, surging masses
and nasty odors, and a dream I'd had some
months earlier in which I was being pursued
by a vicious mob of snarling unitormed
thugs with my father the head of them, and
escaping by suddenly sprouting a set of wings
and flying away.
I see no need to discuss that any further
just now, but I would like to mention that
when the police are estimating upwards of
half a million people would throng through
these parts by the end of the day, for the June
12 disarmament march and rally, one could
bet with very good odds that the seething
multitudes would include some of the more
malicious and deviant con-men, pickpockets, muggers, psychotics, and all-
together Undesirable Persons New York City
would have to offer, and that this was a good
reason not to expect much in the way of fun.
It was also a good reason to keep a very
watchful eye on the $75,000 worth of film
equipment beside me which we apparently
had in our possession due to an obscure connection with York University. I was told the
University also extended a loan for the film
and insurance bill, so when I was asked to
guard the stuff, I figured, what the hell. But
as I watched the technicians setting up on the
media platform across from the stage, I
began to get very annoyed that I'd be left so
long to such a mundane task; after all, I was
the "interviewer" and "ideological guide"
of this filmic adventure.
Just then I saw this tall and twisted fiend
with a shock of red hair and a giant lens barrel protruding from the mechanism on his
shoulder, shoving his way through crowd
right towards me. Hmmmn, looks like Keith
I thought, though it was hard to tell. . . that
is, he was changed. He had been quite involved in shooting, as it were, for the past 96
hours with only marginal rests, and this morning he swore at the Arri ST for about an
hour because "the scum-sucking, bastard,
pig-fucking magazine wasn't loaded properly." I could excuse him to a point, since he'd
only called four days ago from Toronto
claiming we had to make a film of this event
and after driving all night had arrived with a
pile of equipment three pages long and half
of our crew of eight, but I feared for what
further sources of embarrassment he would
be that day.
"Did you see the monks over there?"
Made a great shot, great cutting point, great
cutting point." Then the poor bastard babbled mysteriously about strategy, footage, and
how we couldn't make this film simply
"event coverage."
I had to yell at him, "Christ, we've got to
decide who we're going to interview. It's going to be brutal; Richter Productions has
eighteen fucking crews out and the big-pig
with the march to Central Park and pick up
close-ups and banner shots. Apparently, the
third crew would take the overview shots
from skyscrapers along the route.
One of our first interviews was with three
middle-aged, middle-class housewives from
Orillia, Ontario with beehive hairdos, who
were at once intimidated by the camera, but
flattered that They Were Being Filmed. Asked why they'd come to the march, one
responded, "I've always been one of those
people who'd said there's nothing one person
can do, but we've got to make a stand, and
we've got to start somewhere — that's why
I'm here." Another one said the Jonathon
Schell articles in the New Yorker (the series
was published in book form as The Fate of
the Earth and has become the major
philosophical source for the disarmament
movement) made her take her "head out of
the sand." Pretty fair answers I thought for
people who'd probably never been to any
demonstration other than Tupperware.
Then there was a guy who said he'd come
out because "ever since he'd become a
gardener (he was holding a potted plant), he
realized there's something to protect." We
did a tracking shot of a contingent of oriental
monks in saffron robes which had a very old
man with a long whispy beard in a wheelchair
as leader. While he held his hand in prayer
position the younger monks beat animal-skin
drums and chanted . . . well it actually came
off more like an anguished wail — like the
banshee screaming for Richard Nixon on a
full moon night in August.
The first "celebrity" interview we nailed
down in the media area was with Russell
Means, the American Indian Movement
leader who along with Dennis Banks led the
Wounded Knee occupation in 1973. In 1981,
Means and seventy other Lakota Indians
established Yellow Thunder Camp on their
holy land in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
It also happens to be on national park land
which in turn happens to be land guaranteed
the Lakotas by the Fort Laramie Treaty of
1868. As Means towered above our six-foot-
two camerman, his stern face framed by two
foot long braids, he described the anatomy of
the arms race in basic terms: "Our sacred
grandmother, the mother earth, has become
overpopulated. If you will look at where
there are rabbits, deer, grasses — our green
relatives of the earth — wolves, or any other
living species that becomes overpopulated,
what happens? They become aggressive.
Now we're facing species suicide!" One feels
very humble speaking to a North American
Indian about mutually assured destruction,
after their being ripped-off and wiped-out by
Caucasians for 400 years. Now the White
Culture has stuck this ultimate weirdness
"species suicide" up their ass.
the UN starting point in a matter of five
minutes by the march. What was the point of
having a stage there if people would only see
it for five minutes?
Little did any of the participants know that
they would be barricaded up in a 20-block
area, known as "assembly points A thru Z,"
for several hours while police methodically
channelled the demonstration by the UN
stage in an orderly fashion. And to keep the
potentially restless mobs pacified during their
long wait, the rally committee had stationed
mobile speaker columns at every corner of
the assembly area, so people could hear the
music and speeches at the UN stage, which
was blocked from most people's view by
scores of monolithic concrete towers, which
on any normal day would have had strange
tiny people clad in tight-fitting, itchy, wool
and polyester suits, scurrying around inside
them and looking so uncomfortable and
frantic one would've thought they were
rushing to collect the family and jewellry
before The Big One turned the place into a
radioactive, wind-ravaged, flaming hell.
But this was not a normal day, nor was
that particular scenario to materialize just
then. Instead, after months or preparation
and approximately $500,000 worth of
publicity, from distant countries such as
Japan, and hundreds of American and Canadian cities, perhaps a million people would
converge on these few blocks in the heart of
the Western World's largest city, to
demonstrate that they were scared shitless of
all this talk of "willingness to engage in a
nuclear exchange" at a time in history, as it
were, when collectively the two principle
nuclear antagonists could hurl over 30,000
megatons of atomic horror over more than
half the globe in 30 minutes.
But most likely it'll be the computers that
get us in the end. A fitting finale for a species
held hostage to instantaneous extinction by
the technology it developed in the mad and
greedy pursuit of power and profit. Ground
Zero has estimated there have been 15 false
red alerts in the last five years. Not a very
good record for billions of dollars worth of
technology designed to ensure that those
weapons are absolutely never used unless
there really is an enemy attack or the
Commander-in-Chief — that third-rate actor
who's lived in a fishbowl all his life and has
the brain of a halibut that's spent too long
sucking around the L.A. sewage duct — says
Ahhh yes . . . we've wandered again . . .
but the spirit is right — Mississippi Queen on
the headphones. Which reminds me . . . I'm
often accused and lambasted for being
"nostalgic" and obsessed with "the past."
Well Fuck It! The past had color, excitement,
The Central Park rally was beginning at
one, so we split shortly before. We met Bella
Abzug on the way to the car, so we grabbed
an interview. I couldn't remember what she
said because the event was over-shadowed by
another ugly display by the producer/director. After every interview the soundperson
has to flash a light into the camera lens which
simultaneously puts a "beep" on tape so the
sound can be cued with the picture. After
rolling on Bella the soundperson was in a
daze as usual and Keith started screaming for
the "goddamn fucking beep."
"Get that fucking thing over here," rang
in the air. "You dumb slut, you made us
waste five feet of film!"
"Oh Lord," I muttered, here he goes. The
spectacle of our camerman subjecting our
soundwoman to an extremely sexist and
savage tirade in front of one of America's
leading feminists, or in front of anyone for
that matter, was not a pretty one. I pushed
them back and led Bella along apologizing to
her, explaining that our cameraman had been
acting strange all day — bad acid or
something — and that he was borrowed from
CBS but was all we could find after our
regular had been involved in a fatal accident
the night before.
Upon entering the backstage media area at
Central Park, there was no mistaking the
volume of this event. Hundreds of people
were buzzing around, all attached to some
sort of photographic, motion picture, recording or communications hardware, creating a
scene which looked like a massive outdoor
Japanese electronics convention. All the national television and radio networks, and
local stations, had mobile trailers to the side
of the stage, each one looking as if had the
entire Bell system and the cockpit of a 747
jammed inside. Stacked on the stage, which
was about the size of two large lecture halls,
were eight 40-foot columns of speaker
cabinets, and half-way out the field were two
more banks of speakers. There was a constant roar from the vast crowd on the field,
which was blocked from view by an eight-
foot wall in front of the stage. The presence
of the swelling energy and power beyond the
wall was very strong.
Big Orson Wells was bellowing slogans
from the podium, as planes and helicopters
circled above the gigantic assemblage of people — now estimated to be over half-a-
million. We scrambled to the media platform, anxious to witness the sea of people,
and to get set up for Helen Caldicott who was
to speak in fifteen minutes. We were halted
at the stairs by a fat, old, cigar-smoking, rat-
faced man wearing a June 12th Coordinator
T-shirt, who
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Friday, September 17, 1982
Alternate labs 'temporary'
First-year science students will be
having physics labs only every other
week at least until mid-term, a
physics laboratory instructor said
Peter Matthews said the physics
department could not handle the
full course load until mid-term due
to large class enrollment. "We can't
handle that many (students) at the
beginning of the year."
It will take until mid-term to sort
out class lists and lab scheduling, he
When the labs get going, only
half will be marked, he said. "As a
result of financial cuts last year, the
department cut back on teaching
assistants," he said.
In 1980 the department had four
TA's and one profesor for each 80
student lab. This year, only two
TA's    and    one    professor    are
available, Matthews said.
Prior to the cuts all labs were
'Americans support peace'
(RNR-CUP) — Saying he's never
encountered anything quite like it,
pollster Louis Harris says
Americans seem to have developed
a sudden and urgent hunger for
Among Harris' findings: 86 per
cent of the population wants the
United States and the Soviet Union
to negotiate a nuclear arms reduction agreement not to produce any
new nuclear weapons. And, by a
margin of three-to-one, Americans
believe every country that has
nuclear weapons should ban their
production, storage or use.
Harris says the message for politicians is clear: 56 per cent of the
voters say they will vote against a
candidate who favors an escalation
of the arms race — even if they support the candidate on almost every
other issue.
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Fall, 1982 Programs
The Women Students' Office offers a number of programs and workshops free of
charge which have been designed to address t
women students at U.B.C.
The fall schedule is as follows:
(Time Management for Women)
*Assertiveness for Women
•Career/Life Planning for Women
Essay Anxiety — Composition Skills
•Decision-Making for Women
•Exploring your life through Women in Literature
Panel: Women in Commerce
Panel: Women shaping the City
Panel: Women in People-Related Careers
Catherine Robbin, Soprano
Songs by women composers
Merry Christmas?
Brown Bag Lunch Group
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12:30-2:20 p.m.
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Thursday (1 session)
September 30
12:30-2:00 p.m.
Brock 302
Thursday (1 session)
October 21
12:30-2:00 p.m.
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November 18
12:30-2:00 p.m.
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Wednesday (1 session)
December 1
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The Wild Hunt for
Victor Shulman is a film-maker
from the Byelorussian SSR, a
republic in the Soviet Union. In the
U.S.S.R. Shulman directed several
films, including international
releases such as Vennok Sonneta,
and most recently The Wild Hunt
of King Stakh, which he co-directed
with an other Byelorussian filmmaker, Valeri Rubinchik. He has
lived in Vancouver for a little over a
year, and has plans to continue
making films as soon as his English
is good enough. Ubyssey staffer
Emilie Smith spoke with him in his
West End apartment where he lives
with his wife and daughter.
"In the Soviet Union today the
artist must make movies with two
faces — one for the government,
the other is the true story. The Wild
Hunt of King Stakh was for the
government a film about how poor
people make revolution. For the
film-maker it was a film against
fear. People musn't be afraid."
The time was 1920. The place was
Leningrad in the still new Union of
events in the actual historical locations; a sort of mystery play performed in the Palace square and on
the steps of the Bourse, with participation of real warships, marine
detachments, and classical choirs
(one might well ask why) and masks
representing capitalists and proletarians."
Possibilities and imagination
were endless.
Then in the '30s came Stalin's terror. Most films portrayed fat, happy peasants, or Stalin as messiah.
"The government said movies
must be more realistic; no more experiments. My father was a student
of Eisenstein's at the time. He left
the school (the All-Union State
Cinematography Institute) in
Moscow in 1938 and returned to
Minsk (in the Byelorussian SSR.)"
Stalin's reign was a veritable
quagmire for the Soviet film industry. No flow of new ideas were
allowed into the country and certainly none were allowed to develop
"The government ordered only
castle, haunted by dwarves, ladies
dressed in blue, and a vicious band
of wild horsemen, whose efforts include, for the most part, terrorizing
and murdering the local peasants,
and driving the lady of the castle
potatoes   for   one   scene   (Soviet
special effects).
Other problems surfaced. "The
KGB has a little room which has
cards on everyone — who your
grandparents     are."     Their
Soviet Socialist Republics.
Everywhere was excitement and
new life, new beginnings, new
challenges. The old reigns were
dropped, and the new ones not yet
in place. This was a time and a place
that really understood the meaning
of the word experiment. On the
crest of this wave rode 16 and 17
year olds, whose slogan might very
well have been, "don't trust anyone
over 20."
Gone are those wild and wonderful days. Gone are the Factory of
the Eccentric Actor, the Heroic Experimental Theatre and the Studio
of Spectacles and Mass Festivals,
the true wombs to early Soviet film.
Russian film pioneer Sergei Eisens-
tein is dead, and all his comrades
are either with him or old and grey.
Sergei Yutkevitch, a Russian film
director and a very good friend of
Eisenstein, wrote in his memoirs
about the early experiments in
Soviet theatre and cinema: "At that
time, too, Leningrad produced an
entirely unique kind of spectacle —
the mass street performances. The
Taking of the Winter Palace was a
haunting reconstruction of real-life
five to 10 films to be made a year,
but they wanted them to be really
good ones, only patriotic films,
showing what good weapons we
"My father's friend, who was
giving lectures, said that an
American (D.W. Griffith) was the
first to use emotional montage in
his films. For that he went to jail."
After Stalin's death in 1953 the
Soviet film industry came back to
life. The Soviet Union experienced
a renaissance of culture in the '60s.
Excitement and experiment reached
almost the frenzied level of the
1920s producing new directors, Andrei Tarkovsky, Larrisa Shepitko,
Andron Mikhalkov-Konchalovsky
and new films, The Cranes are Flying, Heat, Andrei Roublev.
In 1968, in the midst of the
uproar, Victor Shulman graduated
from Moscow's Ail-Union
Cinematography Institute. In 1979
he co-directed The Wild Hunt of
King Stakh.
King Stakh is on the surface a
film about a folk-tale collector at
the turn of this century. In the wilds
of the Ukraine he runs into an old
Photos from Shulman's The Wild Hunt of King Stakh
mad. He spends much time and effort, and eventually succeeds, in
arousing the masses to confront the
horsemen. They expose them for
what they really are — hollow
skeletons tied to horses, led by a
greedy landowner, trying to gain
possession of the castle.
"People musn't be afraid. They
musn't be afraid of nothing. The
horsemen in the film were the KGB,
or perhaps the CIA."
King Stakh was made in the
Ukraine, in the city of L'vov. Plans
had originally been made for a film
exchange with Poland. "Lots of
good castles there." The film crew
from Poland came to the U.S.S.R.
and made their film, but when time
came for the Shulman/Rubinchik
team to leave for Poland they were
denied permission to do so. Solider-
nosc was the reason—unrest in
They decided instead to film in
the Ukraine where they found a
suitable old castle. At one time it
belonged to the Polish king, Yan-
syberski, when the Ukraine was
part of Poland. When they found
it, it was a hospital for tuberculosis
invalids. The castle was used only
for exterior shots, except the basement    which    they    filled    with
'My fathers' friend
said D.W. Griffith
was the first to
use emotional
montage in his
films. For that
he went to jail/
dressmaker was unsuitable as she
was a known reader of Alexander
Solzenyitzen, the dissident writer.
Another member of the crew, a
camera operator was also unsuitable — she had children, but no
husband. After a four month pre-
production period everything was
settled and ready to go ahead. Six
months were spent shooting, and
three more editing the film and
preparing it for release.
When completed the Wild Hunt
of King Stakh went first to the
Byelorussian minister of film, and
then to Moscow for final inspection. Approved, it was distributed
nationally and then internationally.
Sergei Yutkevitch writes of
Russia: "My country has given me
everything. Trusting in me, it has
given me the right to work for the
most important of all the arts.
"In our country the cinema is
deprived of only one right: the right
to be stupid and irresponsible, the
right to be a money-making
machine, the right to be a carnival
"In our country the cinema has
the obligation to be intelligent, profound, responsible towards the people.
"We have a vast and wonderful
Victor Shulman says: "It is
harder to work in this country than
in the U.S.S.R. It is harder to work
in this condition. In the Soviet
Union the government oppresses artists and writers. The censorship
laws are strict. Nothing is produced
with the government knowing
about it. But it is easier to create art
when it is more difficult to do so.
Here it is money, money, money.
Speilburg is not art. In the Soviet
Union the artist must think why he
is making a film. The artist must
look within himself." Page 12
Friday, Septemb
Dr. McGeer finally talks.
From page 1
(In spite of increases in funding.
University operating costs per
capita in B.C. remain the second
lowest. That ranking rises only
when capital costs are added to
operating expenses. — editor).
Now I can't say for the current
academic year, because all governments in Canada are in severe
financial difficulties and it may be
that because we have a policy to not
run deficits in B.C., and because we
have a very strong restraint program relative to some provinces, it
may not apply this fiscal year.
That is yet to be determined. We
really don't know what budgets are
going to be at this stage.
This particular year governments
are asking their own civil servants to
partake in the six and five restraint
program. Do you think it is contradictory that students are asked to
accept 32 per cent increases in tuition when the federal and hopefully
the provincial government are saying they'll hold back increases in
costs to people?
Well you remember that the six
and five program strictly is government and the university sets its own
fees. Now we have had very
substantial increases to the faculties
of our universities not withstanding
the impact this would have on fees.
So we don't attempt to dictate to
the universities how much they give
their faculties. We don't dictate
what the number of faculty hired
will be. Now again, we have had to
make exceptions this year because
the faculty increase is going to be
referred to the provincial commissioner. That is the one that was
awarded by arbitration to UBC.
The other institutions have yet to
report in with the final judgement.
So you would be correct in saying
there is some measure of control for
the first time on the salaries of
faculty members.
Contracts in effect will not be interfered with, nor will the increases
in fees that were a consequence of
that arbitration decision a year ago.
I like to see professors well paid.
After all I'm a professor on leave of
absence. But you may recall that
when I threw out my challenge last
year about naming any place where
faculty salaries were more generous,
it was known then that UBC faculty
salaries were the highest in Canada
and that overall, if Harvard rates
were paid in B.C., adding on to the
Harvard salary the 20 percent exchange rate, if we could apply those
rates to our faculty, in the three
universities in B.C., we could save
$11 million.
At the same time, assistant professors and teaching assistants get
paid better at Harvard than they do
No. They get paid much worse.
We pay very generously here. Now
that's by other universities' standards.
(Education writer Larry Pynn for
the Vancouver Sun found that, including assistant professor and
teaching assistants in the Harvard
average, Harvard's average salary is
higher than UBC's. Jack Webster,
host of BCTV's early morning talk
show, declared McGeer had lost the
original bet made on the show.
McGeer paid only one third of the
$100. — editor).
There is always the cost of living factor. Forgetting about Harvard, isn't Vancouver's cost of living a reason why salaries should be
higher and tuition lower?
One can give dozens of reasons.
But the hard facts are laid out by
the comparative wages, salaries and
fees. You can argue that the fees
should be lower and the wages and
salaries higher, the cost to the individual less, the benefits more
because of some special factors that
you cite but there isn't a place on
money which is judged not by me
but judged by the UCBC and they
set their own priorities. Now I'm
not trying to run UBC or any other
university. That's up to the president and the board. They can put
bursaries at the top of the list and
make that the first dollar received
or they can put it at the bottom and
make it the first item to go. But that
is the decision that UBC makes —
not a decision the minister makes.
About the Summer job creation
program, the youth employment
project. There was an awful lot of
confusion surrounding it. It was implemented late for ease of application. Do you think the confusion
could have been avoided?
I think the universities were extremely fortunate to receive any
funding this year given the state of
the economy. So I'm terribly
grateful that some opportunities
were there. Naturally we wish it
could have been more. But given
the alarming decline of the B.C.
economy salvaging anything was a
pretty heroic measure.
You 've talked often in the past of
the role a university plays in providing skilled workers and creating
the talent so secondary industry can
develop. Don't you think that even
in a time of recession, and perhaps
Our policy as a government is that you
keep everybody going. To let people
off at a time like this is just to
throw individuals overboard into
shark infested waters.
God's green earth that doesn't have
special factors that might make someone say they deserve special
On the matter of aid, UBC has to
some degree compensated for the
increase in tuition fees with
$970,000 in bursaries. It is a one
year effort and comes out of the $6
million surplus. Is your ministry
planning to do anything to compensate for the loss of those bursaries
next year?
The universities manage their
own affairs, and we make available
at the provincial level a global
budget, and that global budget is
divided by the Universities' Council
of B.C.
Each university receives a sum of
especially in a time of recession
spending money on an educational
institution is a positive thing to do?
If we have a mature high
technology sector such as Silicon
Valley has or Japan or West Germany the things you say could have
truth. But you can't take the example of Japan's industrial success
where the output of engineers is six
time higher than Canada's and
translate that into industrial
benefit. That is not the way our
economy has worked. The way our
economy has worked is that the
tremendous wealth we have
generated from our natural
resources has been spread around
generously in benefits to people including   a  very  advanced  health
system and very generously supported institutions. The development of those resource industries
has depended on the existence of
those resources and the availability
of capital both domestic and
foreign to exploit. Now those
sources of capital have been totally
drained off as a result of federal
policy towards investors and that
has left us with no where to turn for
our new industry let alone perserv-
ing the industry we presently have.
Isn't it to a certain degree, the
Socred government responsible for
not taking the benefits that came
from exploiting our natural
resources and creating some sort of
secondary industry in B.C.
Well we're certainly attempting
to do that. That's why I'll be coming up with a high technology position paper for the next session of
the legislature. It takes a long time
to build this. We hope to have a
Discovery Park here at UBC. It was
the last university to come on
board. BCIT was first and the other
universities quickly followed.
Haven't the Socreds been a little
slow in getting off the mark?
Well this isn't entirely a government venture. Government doesn't
do all in Japan. It doesn't do any of
it in California or Massachusetts.
Governments will have to play a
more signifigant role in Canada
than other countries. We don't
have the type of industury that can
take natural steps towards producing this kind of industrial success.
It doesn 't seem to be a priority
for the govenment. It's fine to say
all this but in reality there is a lot of
money being thrown into exploiting
underpriced resources, and B.C.
Place, when it is a bad time to do
that sort of thing.
Well that's a judgement of yours.
A lot of people say it is the best time
to do that sort of thing.
And likewise, I would say it is the
best time to invest in human capital,
to provide dollars for education, so
that when the economy improves
you don't retard the growth of institutes.
One way to make the same
amount of money go further is to
have everyone take less and that
way you do preserve everybody.
There are lots out in the private sector that don't have a job at all.
There are many who still have a job
and consider themselves extremely
grateful if they are able to take
home what they took home a year
You basically make your way on
what you can manufacture for export. That becomes the leader.
Then behind that you can build service industries of all kinds. At the
bottom of the economic tree always
are government services that are
financed by taxes. There is no
economic leverage from that and indeed what it does is impede
economic performance higher in the
We've got to have a complete
rethinking of where we stand
within the public sector. This
doesn't apply just to B.C. It is a national syndrome that's got to be
recognized and appropriately dealt
Isn't there a special responsibility
for a government to plan for that
and make sure there is something to
fall back on in a resource based
Every country wants things they
can fall back on. The reason
Canada has done the worst of all industrial countries this past year
should give people cause for concern for their governments. We in
B.C. do not set the policy with
respect to energy, foreign investment, with respect to taxation
levels, with respect to deficits and
foreign borrowing. All those things
are generated at the national level
and I can tell you it is very difficult
to run contrary to the policies of the
national government.
I'm not trying to make excuses
for our government but I'm saying
there is a limiited amount that a
jurisdiction like B.C. can do when
the investment climate is poisoned
by unwise policies nationally. One
of the things that we do is reassure
people that everybody in Canada
doesn't think like the federal
There's been an additional
rollback in the grants to the UCBC
announced. Have you come up with
a figure?
We said there might have to be
savings of as much as $12 million
from what was originally was proposed in the budget because the
money anticipated in the budget
just simply isn't there. Our
economy has continued to spin
down over the summer. The budget
was done in February and while
things looked dark then, in
retrospect they looked good compared with today. The reason you
have to adjust is you cannot have a
spending momentum which is out
of step with what you think you'll
get the next year and the year after.
We don 't know what the levels of
activity are going to be. Even if the
industrial recovery comes as we
hope, we still have to digest as a nation this enormous deficit we've
built up during this past year — $40
billion is a terrifying number.
Do you think the $12 million will
be in part made up by an anticipated rollback in faculty and
staff salaries or do you think there
will have to be additional retrenchment?
That depends on how skilled the
management of the institution is.
Our policy as a government is that
you keep everybody going. To let
people off at a time like this is just
to throw individuals overboard into
shark infested waters. The way you
cope with it is you say if there is this
The day you want
the minister to set
priorities come
and complain to
me about that. But
even if you trusted
me you wouldn't
want the minister
to do that.
You would always
want the minister
not to do that. er 17, 1982
Page 13
much money you share it around.
Everyone takes a little less so each
one can work. But this is no time to
dismiss people as some have done.
The unions that say we are going to
demand every benefit that we ever
got in any contract, when there isn't
enough money to go around are
pushing people overboard into
shark infested waters.
Where does UBC have room to
You've got any amount of room
to move. All you have to do is have
everyone take less. That's the way
you get all the financial room you
Do you have any idea what kind
of a rollback in salaries would make
up for $6 of the $12 million that
UBC would absorb.
You can sit down with a pencil
and work it yourself very quickly.
But do you have any idea what it
You just calculate what the
operating budget is. No. I think it
would be an excellent arithmetical
exercise for you people. It should
take you all of half an hour.
(The possible rollback from the
current nine per cent faculty salary
increase to a six per cent increase
will save UBC about $5.5 million.
— editor).
You've argued in the past that
overlapping faculties are a waste.
Now there are plans to establish an
engineering faculty at the University of Victoria. Do you think that's a
good thing to do in a time of recession or do you think the money
could be better spent expanding
UBC's faculty of engineering.
Well perhaps both should be
done, because a country like Japan,
one of our major competitors, turns
out way more engineers than we do.
You have three art faculties. Why
would it be wrong to have three
engineering faculties? And that very
much depends on what the individuals can do when they
graduate — what contribution they
can make to the economy.
What about overlapping
ministries? The ministry of education and your own ministry for example?
I don't think we are top heavy
with redundant civil servants.
// seems to me one of the most
important challenges that we face in
a technological society is to bridge
the gap that exists between the
science community and the
humanities community. How do
you see the universities' role in that
and do you think it's fulfilling it?
I think there is a concern that the
universities are becoming a collection of professional communities
and that they are not providing the
broad based education they were
originally intended to provide.
Engineering is being cut back from
five years to four and and students
will only be required to take nine
units of humanities. People with a
degree in engineering with little
background in the humanities will
be making decisions that affect
society in general.
There is nothing to prevent people from taking as much of the
humanities as they desire. As far as
the five year course in engineering is
concerned, it became a major
deterent to people going into
engineering simply because
everyone else has a four year
course. If you're training at UBC to
become an engineer why would you
go to a place that takes five
years when you could go to a highly
respected school like Cal Tech or
MIT where you only take four
What you have to do is ask the
ones who are not taking the course.
Those here have opted for the five
year program. Ask those people
who are out there, some who took
five and others who took four.
You said there is nothing to stop
people from taking as much
humanities education as they want.
Don't you think that the university
has some responsibility in providing
guidance in the education people
should get?
Beauty is in the eyes of the
beholder. And one thing for which
there is little sympathy on the part
of the tax paying public or on the
part of the graduate is the game of
academic snakes and ladders where
you try and upgrade the value of the
course not by testing the endowment of the student but by testing
the student's endurance.
In 1976 you said in an interview
with The Ubyssey that let alone the
cost of tuition, a liberal arts education wasn 't worth the time people
put into it.
I don't recall saying anything like
that. If it is documented in The
Ubyssey I'll be quite prepared to
state on a stack of Bibles I never
said it.
(The following appeared in the
March 26, 1976 edition of The
Ubyssey in a question and answer
interview: "Many universities, particularly liberal arts colleges, are in
trouble in North America and are
closing down simply because they
are not providing the students with
saleable skills, and therefore it
becomes an uneconomic thing for
the student to spend his time and his
student fees, much less what the institution offers, because what he
gets out of it simply isn't worth the
time he puts in."
Anyway, what I want to do is Jit
you with a new pair of shoes and
ask you what is the value of a liberal
arts education?
This is something an individual
has to decide for himself in terms of
what they see the liberal arts
graduates contributing to society as
a result of that liberal arts education. One of the things that does
not apply today but once applied is
that the person who went to
univeristy was assumed to have
much greater endowment than the
ones who didn't go to university,
and therefore, if you took a liberal
arts degree that would be more
valuable in employ as a generalist
than those who didn't go. That feel-
I guess if you're
a government you
want to know
how many people
are going to vote
for you. If you
take a poll and
you find the
public want to
vote for you, that
means for you,
they want an
ing doesn't apply today. And
therefore you can't look, as the arts
graduate of the thirties did, on an
arts degree as a way of getting a
preferred job in society. Therefore
you have to seek judgement of
worth on things other than
economical. That is a relatively new
phenomenon for the arts graduate.
So let's talk about things other
than economic value. You almost
always talk about arts in those
That's why many people go to
universities. That's why I say you
have to decide what spiritual,
humanistic,   moral   and   intrinsic
We will occasionally offer a carrot where we think the institutions
are not fulfilling their roll to society
because after all, we represent the
taxpayers who are paying the bill.
Now we did that in the case of
medicine because only one in 10 was
getting into medical school and the
province was registering 400 physicians while it was graduating 80. In
In the case of the engineers if they
are going to hold the key to some
future industrial development then
certainly the numbers we graduate
in Canada and B.C. compared to
what exists in Japan is extremely
small indeed. There is more involv-
I don't recall saying anything like that.
If ifs documented in the Ubyssey I'll
be quite prepared to state on a stack
of bibles that I never said it.
values will flow from the opportunity to delve into the liberal arts.
I don't think the humanities have
ever done better. Never more
money, never more generously
treated, never more opportunity.
But if others too are making gains
then it would be demeaning for people in humanities to resent that. But
as far as the humanities are concerned they've never been treated
We have seen the dispersal of the
humanities both in terms of a
geographic and financial basis into
many smaller communities in B.C.
So it's available now at all our community colleges and its available at
the Open Learning Institute.
One of the things I've been most
proud of doing as the minister
responsible for all aspects of education is to have started the Open
Learning Institute and so many
other provincial institutes and to
have encouraged the development
of our colleges so that people: a)
would be able to have the benefits
of some of the things you've been
talking about in their own community and, b) would be able to enjoy them without having to give up
their job.
You say that the university sets its
own priorities. In the case of UBC
they've decided that professional
development has immediate value
in the job market, and in order to
finance professional programs, they
rolled back arts $500,000. The
budget of the library, which is
essentially the laboratory of arts was
rolled back $500,000. And again
this leads back to the government
setting priorities.
You wouldn't want the minister
to set them. Now you may disagree
with what they do, but the day you
want the minister to set the
priorities, come and complain
about that. But for heaven's sake
even if you trusted me you wouldn't
want the minister to do that. You
would always want the minister not
to do that. You would always want
your own administration to do that.
So that is a complaint that you
should definitely take to your administration and board.
Okay, you say again and again
that you don't tell the universities
how to spend their money, what
they do once they get the grant is
their affair, and use that as a way of
shifting responsibility away from
yourself for the priorities they set
That is their responsibility not
Let me finish . . . Are you saying that you don't try to influence
the university through your appointments to the board of governors, and through grants to capital
expenditures, and through line
items like the $1 million given to the
engineering faculty, and all through
the subtle means of political persuasion that you have in your power.
ed than just numbers. There is a
question of relevancy and the type
of program that's being offered. Do
we need engineers today to build
bridges and design roads if the
engineers that are produced in
Japan are designing new electronic
marvels and they're going to produce the robots of tomorrow.
tf one could summarize what
you've just said, it would be that
the government, if it feels things are
going along fine, won't interject,
but otherwise it will.
Let me put it this way. The
government will certainly reserve its
right to do something if there is
gross mismatching of what is required in the province compared to
what is being done. We would do
that in the form of grants that have
a sunset provision. But certainly, if
someone complains that this thing
or that is being cut by the university
then the only thing we can say is,
'well the things that get cut are the
things that the university considers
to be the least important of all the
things they undertake. And the
things that they fund first are the
The government
will certainly
reserve its right to
do something if
there is gross
mismatching of
what is required in
the province
compared to what
is being done.
most important. If they decide not
to fund the library, it's because they
think the library not to be very important.'
You have to take responsibility
for those decisions to some degree.
It's the board of governors that
approved UBC's retrenchment program and you are responsible, as
the cabinet minister in the Socred
government that appoints 11 of
those 15 members, to a certain
degree, for the policies they set.
No. We don't have a caucus in
Victoria that says okay the board of
governors at UBC will come in and
have the game plan of the minister
before they go to the board
meeting. What you try to do in
government is to try to supply competent people, usually alumni from
the institution, who will help to take
responsibility with the administration for operating it.
Last year there was an absolutely
appalling letter we received through
the University of Victoria. It was
the deputy minister communicating
with the UCBC chair and there it
was in black and white statements
from the ministry saying that the
priorities would have to change,
that the arts would have to suffer,
that those sort of programs were
not as important. And yet with
those kind of documents I can't see
how you can say that the universities' ministry doesn 't interfere.
Really I don't know what document you are refering to.
// was a letter from Stewart to
Gibson. It ran in The Ubyssey and
came from the UVic student council. It may not be direct interference
but that type of communication and
philosophy is coming out of the
deputy minister's office.
I don't concur with what you say
and therefore we're just in a debate.
Do you think the majority of
people the provincial government
has appointed to the UBC board
have backgrounds in business? Do
you think that is healthy? Or are
those people going to naturally set
priorities in the university that
relate to job training for business?
I would think if there are
priorities for employment then
those priorities would be strongly
demanded by the students and I
think that if you want to get opinions as to why students are attending university this would be a worthwhile question to ask them.
But again you have students
enrolling in arts.
Then the students enrolling in
arts would be a good group to poll
plus the engineers and perhaps the
lawyers. But why not determine
Well we're on the subject of
universities meeting students'
needs, you 've said in the past that
universities are meritocracies not
democracies and in that context you
said that universities don't benefit
from student representation. Are
you saying that student representation on the board of governors isn't
a good thing or what?
It depends on the students. There
have been some excellent students
on the board at UBC. There have
been some bad embarrassments.
Some of the students have been an
adornment to the board. It has not
been universal.
/ don't understand what your
view of student representation on
the boards is. Do you think it is a
valuable thing or a necessary thing?
It depends on whether the student is capable or not. As I say
there have been some very embarrassing circumstances in the past.
But, particularly in recent years,
some shining examples.
There seems to be a good tradition in that respect. Right now, and
over time perhaps, the answer to
your question would be yes. If one
looked over the period when
students have been on the board
considering the embarrassing early
years you would say the jury is sitll
Well what is your criterion for
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WOMEN. . .chained by Rousseau and Romantics
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still cherish the idea of a residual
"maternal instinct." In Mother
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Polytechnique, has taken upon
herself the task of debunking the
"maternal instinct," of proving
that mother love is "a gift, not a
given." Judging by the cautionary
foreword, the book has already
sparked considerable controversy in
Mother  Love  lacks the confes
sional tone of Adrienne Rich's Of
Woman Born, Nancy Friday's My
Mother, Myself, or Phyllis
Chesler's With Child. In the tradition of Simone de Beauvoir,
Badinter builds her theory on a slow
and relentless accumulation of
historical dates. The result is a tour
de force covering the ideology of
motherhood from medieval times to
the present.
Drawing on an arsenal of
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Philippe Aries' Centuries of
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was little love or affection in family
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"vile," "beastly" creatures who
were the living examples of original
According to Eladinter's
statistical excavations, relations between parents and children hit their
nadir in the late 18th century. Out
of 21,000 children born in Paris in
1780, 19,000 were shipped off to
wet nurses in the country. Here they
lived in squalid conditions, wrapped in their tiny straight jackets of
swaddling clothes, seldom visited
by their parents, malnourished,
diseased, until the parents saw fit to
reclaim them — if they were still
alive. How can there be a "maternal instinct" is Badinter's question,
when mothers practiced what
amounted to "indirect infanticide"?
Mother Love: Myth and Reality
By Elisabeth Badinter
330 pages
A transformation in attitude did
take place, but Badinter attributes it
to Rousseau and the Romantics,
who brought the new ideal of the
"natural" mother into vogue. For
the first time, the mother became
responsible for the emotional well-
being of the child who was no
longer a marginal creature but suddenly a "child-king," "trailing
clouds of glory" behind him.
Encouraged by promises of
maternal bliss, many women took
to the new fashion, returning to the
practice of breast-feeding and letting their children run wild, "a la
Jean-Jacques." Rousseau's Sophie
was the model for the 19th century
ideal of womanhood, so familiar to
us from Victorian literature, of a
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mystique of maternal self-sacrifice
and maternal guilt.
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its finger at the bad mother who
refused to sublimate her own ambitions for the sake of her children.
She points out it is only after
decades of feminism [hat women
are beginning to free themselves
from the yoke of excessive responsibility for the child. Younger men
are laking a bigger share in
"mothering" now that so many of
their wives are working outside the
Badinter's meticulous research
proves that mother love is by no
means as constant throughout
history. But she does not provide
either anthropological findings,
biological evidence, or the personal
experience of women that would offer more convincing proofs of
whether or not there is a "maternal
instinct." Still, that failure does not
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Friday, September 17, 1982
Romance synthesizes old and new
In the nineteenth century, the
supreme art acknowledged by
almost everyone was music. But the
twentieth century has seen the rise
of the written text again as the central art, ranging from the earliest
Joyce, Proust, and Kafka, to Son-
temporaries like Barthes, Grass,
Canetti, Lem and Borges.
In the nineteenth century the
novel concerned itself primarily
with the exposition and development of characters; of course this is
an oversimplification, but still it
generally holds true. Novels by
Dickens, Balzac, and earlier writers
like Defoe and Sterne followed this
Long before any of these people
were alive, there was a tradition of
tale-spinning, of the development
of romances in which the story, the
structure of the created world, was
paramount. How much can we say
of the character of Archilles? Of
Arthur or Sir Tristram? Of Gargan-
tua, Oedipus, or Beowulf? Very little. These characters are necessarily
limited in scope because it is not important to know precisely whom is
acted upon in the story, but rather
to know that someone, a person, is
part of a story.
These stories were handed down
mostly by long oral tradition,
embellished, and sung as well as
spoken. The truth was in the tale,
and characters merely players in it.
The Wandering Unicorn
By Manuel Mujica Lainez
Lester & Orpen Dennys
Munica Lainez is attempting to
revive that tradition of the
romance. The Wandering Unicorn,
translated by Mary Fitton from the
original Argentine Spanish, has all
the features of a fairy tale, including a fairy. But, as Louis
Borges says in his introduction to
Lainez's novel, "the Wandering
Unicorn is not a reconstruction of
time past; it is like a glowing dream
set in the past."
This then is really less a revival
than a homage, a synthesis of old
and new, a single-volume history of
literature. While the Wandering
Unicorn employs ancient forms,
structures and conventions, Lainez
lives firmly in the present, and the
voice of the storyteller is clearly present on many levels symbolized by
the many different levels of time in
the narrative. This voice, the narrative "I," was barely if ever present before the eithteenth century.
It is a thoroughly modern device.
But like classical tragedy, the
Wandering Unicorn centers around
the gradual decline and collapse of
planned activity, ultimately ending
in death — but not despair. For
Lainez, the joy is in the quest and
not the goal, the game and not the
winning: for nobody wins in the
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Lillo's latest a ^boring, dreary' effort
A dreary, unexciting production
can only be partially redeemed as a
theatrical experience by it's audience's patience. You can feel the
audience quietly rooting for the
play to succeed on stage because it
has competent actors and is directed
Cold Comfort
By Jim Garrard
Directed by Larry Lillo
At the Vancouver East
Cultural Centre until Oct. 2.
by a professional whose previous
work has been stellar. Such is the
case with a current production of
Jim Garrard's Cold Comfort,
directed by Larry Lillo who helmed
the successful production of Bent at
the Arts Club last year and more
recently at the Queen Elizabeth
The play's black twist is a reworking of the tired joke about
the traveling salesman who spends
the night with a farmer's daugther.
Only the morning after does the
farmer tell him she was dead. In
Garrard's version, the butt of the
joke is Stephen, a Montreal
salesman stranded in the boondocks
of Saskatchewan. Rescued from his
car by Floyd, a jack of all trades,
Stephen awakens in a dingy house-
that once adjoined Floyd's gas station.
At home is Dolores (Miriam
Smith), Floyd's 16 year old
daughter who is enamored by
Stephen's sophisticated and
fascinated with his two picnic
baskets; she is amazed at the sight
of pickled herring. She is also
charmed by and takes advantage of
his concern for her apparently
brutal life with Floyd.
After Floyd walks in on Stephen
and Dolores while they are in bed
trying to make love — a situation he
helpled to set up — he becomes
violent. Stephen doesn't do
anything to alleviate the tension; he
has already convinced Dolores to
leave Floyd and run away with him.
At the end, it is Dolores and Floyd
who leave to explore the world outside their sheltered existence.
Stephen is shackled to the floor,
doomed to spend the rest of his lire
in front of a black and white television.
The irony, of course, is obvious.
A man of the world, with all his
pretensions to class and culture, is
stuck in Saskatchewan while a rural
couple — father and daughter who
are probably incestuous lovers —
are about to enjoy Stephen's life.
The butt of the joke is once again
the traveling salesman.
Garrard's play is potential,y exciting stuff — but only when
someone takes the trouble to offer
a synopsis of it — and if capsule
reviews are trustworthy at all, sue-
Garrard aims for
Pinter's style and
comes up empty.
cessful productions of it have been
staged elsewhere, in Toronto, for
But Vancouver East Cultural
Centre's production doesn't go
anywhere because Garrard's play is
dreadful; most of the lines are
smile-getters, and the irony of the
situation is never forceful enough.
And the play resorts to tedious
Canadian jokes, thereby ensuring
laughs from the hopefully few hardcore nationalists in the audience
who can overlook incompetence in
favor of a home grown hybrid.
Worse yet, the production itself is
theatrically limp. The menace that
Stephen encounters in the character
of Floyd is seldom acute enough to
be believable or even threatening;
everything is so detached from the
audience that most of the play
doesn't ring true. With its comedy
of menace, Cold Comfort is
reminiscent of a Harold Pinter
play,  like  The  Caretaker or  The
Homecoming. But there is constantly a dual edge to Pinter; his
language and his characters are
pregnant with intentionally
obscured significance. When
Pinter's plays are staged realistically, without any nods to absurdist
tendencies, they can be frightening,
funny, and tremendously exciting.
Cold Comfort aims for some of
it as a brutal spectacle.
But current production is
theatrically tame and visually unexciting. So tame and boring that
nothing that happens on stage surprises you very much; it's just the
actors going through the motions.
Even when an actor is very good, as
is Miriam Smith as Dolores, the
production   doesn't   have   enough
What is more puzzling and incomprehensible than the production itself is the praise it has
garnered; it's almost as if director
Larry Lillo can do no wrong. The
only thing this production has going
for it is a realistic stage design that
conveys more about the setting in
the first few seconds before Act I
unfolds than the rest of the produc-
the best qualities of Pinter plays
and come up empty. Garrard's language is a long sword
with dull edges. It may be that problems with Garrard's play — the
principle one being a flaccid first
act — are surmountable by a production that draws the audience into some (or any) menace by staging
going for it to make you genuinely
excited. And Tom McBeath's performance is unconvincing particularly in the second act when his
outrage at being a prisoner comes
off more as a diatribe than heartfelt
pleas from a man who doesn't
understand what wrong he has
In other words, Cold Comfort is
a flop. There is very little comfort
in that, especially since Vancouver
East Cultural Centre has staged
some fine productions. That the
centre got stuck with Garrard's play
is no comfort at all. Not even cold
Freeze dried Dead
Animals attractive/
brimming brew
body and indeed its basic rights as a
living creature.
"I didn't kill anything," says
Gibson. "The cat came like that
from the biological supply house."
I Own a Uterus with a Paint Job.
further demonstrates this. A human
uterus painted in day-glo colours is
pinned to a supply house invoice. A
uterus can be purchased for $99
U.S. Livers are a steal at only $40.
Some of the exhibits in Gibsons
show are even attractive and appealing. Dry Ink is a freeze dried
octopus. Its tan, mottled body is arranged naturally, and a green,glassy
eye cooly regards the spectator.
A holograph of empty egg shells
with a timer in the background is
also appealing. "I like the abstract
quality of octopus," Tibson comments. "Taxidermists can do lovely
things with animals but even that I
have to wonder about."
Dead Animals is not an easy
show to take; that is, it is not like
most art which the viewer can
behold and then leave behind. It
stays with you. If its description
seems merely macabre, don't be
misled. "It's concerned with the
death of industry and the willingness to accept it as the status
quo," says Gibson.
Tips on saving alligators
A man with his face pasty white
lurches past. He moans and clutches his latex viscera spilling from
his abdomen. A woman staggers
past equally distressed. But the audience at Rick Gibson's exhibition,
Dead Animals doesn't mind them.
The pig fetus with the thermometer
protuding from its skull is holding
their attention.
Also present is the holograph of
chicken heads entitled The
Auschwitz Attraction at
Disneyland — just one of the many
pieces at the Unit Pitt Gallery. They
are all fascinating and disturbing.
The animals used in the exhibition are real. They have been
preserved by freeze drying, a
vacuum method that removes all
moisture. "I became involved with
freeze-drying through problems I
was trying to solve in working with
Dead Animals
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At the Unit Pitt Gallery
until Sept. 26.
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aware  of animal  liberation.   The
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upon looking at his clipboard told
us we'd have to make a reservation
to go up and the soonest we could
get it for was in fifteen minutes. As
we waited, several people pushed
through and went up the stairs, and
the rat-faced man along with his
two assistants just continued
gossiping with friends, ignoring our
questions and protests. I left the
line and found a June 12th media
person I'd befriended earlier, who
said the week before "deals" had
been made behind closed doors with
the big networks. It seems, to ensure "maximum" media coverage,
the networks were given permanent
spots at the front of the platform,
while the small independent units
like us, who were perhaps more ardent supporters of the disarmament
movement, could only get up for
fifteen minutes at a time, and had
to grovel to do even that.
When I got back to the line,
Keith was involved in a heated argument with Rat-face who was now
saying we wouldn't be getting up at
all "in the forseeable future." I
thought the time was right to launch
into a high-powered verbal assault:
"You fucking guys call yourself a
democratic grass-roots movement
and here you are showing
favoritism to the big pig networks
who already have the most
sophisticated equipment and exorbitant budgets, while you ignore
unemployed students like us, who
really need the favors, and have
travelled hundreds of miles and
gone into debt just to make a film
here." Rat-face was slightly taken
aback and responded with a
demented grimace. We chose that
moment to forcefully push our way
through, meeting only token
resistance. At the top, Keith, never
knowing where the line is, yelled
back at Rat-face, "You're a pig-
fucking Communist and your
mother bakes rancid apple pie!"
But then we turned and saw It
. . . cameras, the stage, and PEOPLE . . . mounds and mounds ol
fucking people, right to the
horizon. The field looked like a
monstrous colony of swarming
multi-colored ants for as far as the
eye could see. "Goddamn!" we
kept muttering to each other as we
stood transfixed by The Scene. We
were snapped out of it by Helen
Caldicott's introduction, and
furiously we began setting up.
Caldicott is an Australian physician who moved to Boston with her
family in 1977 and took up a position at Harvard. After looking into
cases of radiation poisoning and
doing extensive research, she began
giving seminars to fellow doctors on
the dangers of uranium mining and
nuclear power plants before Three
Mile Island. Through this process
and her book, Nuclear Madness:
What You Can Do, she revived
Physicians for Social Responsibility
and steered it towards the anti-
nuclear issue. She has become the
premiere speaker of the disarmament movement and there are now
two films centered around her: the
National Film Board's If You Love
This Planet and the biographical
documentary Eight Minutes to Midnight.
Caldicott is a magical speaker;
she very quickly strikes at the emotions of an audience. She has that
special touch with her voice, phrasing, and expression with which she
could probably make you cry even
if she was trying to sell you drugs or
something on television — or in any
other sordid context. Today she was
a bit stiffer than usual. She went
through her standard talk about
what a 20-megaton bomb would do
if dropped on "this very spot." I
could see a visible shudder pass
through the crowd when she said
"there are at least 65 hydrogen
bombs targeted on New York
alone." She urged people to put
pressure on their representatives
and senators to support the freeze
proposal and to "watch those
politicians!" Pretty good advice
considering how there was a majori-
rath of bad acid and savage decades past
haunt largest protest in U.S. history...
the Mudd Club is decadent and depraved
ty of representatives on record as
supporting the Kennedy-McCloskey
freeze proposal, but when it came
to a vote in August, mysteriously
lost by two lousy votes (after a week
of intense personal lobbying by The
Helen Caldicott was one of the
few inspiring speakers that day, out
of a roster of 80. The stage hosted a
steady stream of professors, church
people, labor leaders, and politicians whose harsh slogans and frequently boring, pedantic, and self-
serving speeches, from the audiences point of view, were only oc-
cassionally alleviated by a dozen-
odd musical acts. I think my observation is supported by the fact that
by late afternoon, after all the big
musical acts like Linda Ronstadt,
Bruce Springsteen, Jackson
Browne, James Taylor, Joan Baez,
and Oluyemi Adeniji had left, the
crowd had dissipated rapidly to
roughly one-third its previous size.
Wandering through the audience, it
was fairly obvious that people were
there more to state their support for
the cause, be together, listen to a bit
of music, and to check out the
costumes, banners and buttons,
than to pay much attention to the
erratic voices emanating from the
distant stage on this hot and overwhelming, as it were, day.
By 6:00 p.m. we'd moved up to
the front of the audience where we
witnessed the event degenerate into
a pathetic competition between
various speakers and performers for
the microphone and state. Rita
Marley was twisting her wav
through a rather revoltingly slick
and showbiz hyped set. She'd cut
off Dave Dellionger, who was the
emcee, while he was trying to introduce a woman speaker holding a
plaque. Twenty minutes later the
woman was still standing there
holding her goddamn plaque and
Delliner was nervously trying to get
Marley to wrap it up. When she
pushed ahead with an "encore" the
woman walked off and Dellinger
shook his head in futility. When
Marley was finally subdued, Dick
Gregory tried to grab the mike, but
was shunted aside by a pitiful
parody of the Supremes called the
Are & Be Ensemble. Many others
who were scheduled to appear —
Bella Abzug, Russell Means, and
Peter, Paul and Mary — never
made it to the microphone at Central Park.
When the Grand Music Finale
came, everyone was let down that
Springsteen didn't come back with
all the stars, as was anticipated.
They had to hustle up all the stage
hands and burnt-out organizers
they could find, and any speakers
still vain enough to be hanging on,
and once more push Dick Gregory
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(bless his soul) could come out and
lead them all through If I Had A
Hammer. When that finished, confusion ensued, and the mike was
tossed between a few non-entities
who shouted brainless slogans. The
technicians finally spared us any
more pain and shut it all down
before it got more embarrassing. I
was reminded of that line in the
Hollow Men: "This is the way the
world ends, not with a bang but a
Eight hundred thousand people
came out for the largest demonstration in American history. The
police made no arrests and were applauded by stragglers as they left
the field.
The next day the President said
he shared the concerns of the
demonstrators but said he didn't
think their approach would work.
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and Bechtel Corporation's George
Shultz, from the firm which built
over half the nuclear power plants
in the United States, would replace
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Dr. McGeer drains his brain
From page 13
bad representation ? You mentioned
embarrassing things. Are things
that are embarrassing to the government things that have been leaked?
They've been embarrassing to the
university. And I don't really make
any observations. It is certainly not
embarrassing to the government
because we are just the banker for
the university.
/ think this whole series of questions is revolving around what community the university is serving and I
think theoretically the university
serves the wider society as a whole.
I'm not quite clear that need is met.
You see you're telling me about
your point of view. And I suppose
you could say The Ubyssey really
doesn't represent a broad community of interests. It represents
those who have a particular interest
in The Ubyssey. A university is not
a college and it does serve many interests. So when you say a broader
community that isn't really meaning one person's narrow community
put under a magnifying glass. So
how many in engineering, in
medicine, in law get to be
represented in the thinking in your
student newspaper.
How many people on the board
of governors represent the population that's female.
I would hope they all do.
Okay a little earlier you said you
didn 't want to see any conflict of interest on the board. And there is
Alan Crawford, he is a member of
the board of governors and his
company, Anateck Electronics, is
going to be one of the major ten-
nants of Discovery Park when it
gets off the ground. Do you see someone with fingers...
Where? Here on the UBC campus? Your speculating aren't you.
/ believe Anateck expressed an interest in becoming a tennant at
Discovery Park. (In 1979, Anateck
executives expressed interest in
Discovery Park. — editor).
Who ever said that? Imean it may
be true, but who ever said that?
It's old information.
But from whom.
Has the government felt out who
possible tennants would be for the
Discovery Park?
The government doesn't have
anything to do with it. It is an independent foundation who's
beneficiaries are the universities and
the science council.
Then it is an iffy question. If a
member of the board was a member
of the board and a major tennant in
Discovery Park would you see that
as an uncomfortable situation?
Not for me.
A situation that could be construed as a conflict in interest from
the point of view of the university.
That would be a question for the
university to decide.
It would be a question for you to
decide when you made appointments to the board.
Look when I appoint somebody
to the board do you think I'm going
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trying to develop some future
scenario of what a man might do
there or somewhere else with Ids
life? I mean if you sit and speculate
what might happen in ten years,
Lord alive, you would never make a
If you're going to have people sitting on the board, you want them to
be leaders. You shouldn't pick for
the board of governors, for
anything, names out of a telephone
book. You should look at the accomplishments of people and pick
leaders. Because you want leaders
to lead. You don't want average
people or people who follow. No
great institution in the world has
achieved great successes as a result
of that. Nor will a university in
British Columbia.
Do you think that for a person to
be accomplished and a leader that
he or she necessarily must have a
background that's high up in
government or business or is that an
important consideration?
Well you can give your definition
of leader and make a list and think
through in your mind what makes a
leader. It might be any number of
endeavors. But certainly it should
be in something. Now a pierson
might be an outstanding hockey
player on the Vancouver Canucks.
But that would not make them the
most desirable person for a board
of governors for an institution or an
industrial firm. But it might make
them an excellent choice as the
general manager of the Canucks, or
a coach or even someone who might
be a good curator for the B.C.
Sport Hall of Fame. You need to
have outstanding achievement to be
a leader but it all needs to have
some relevancy to the job at hand.
Well. I think we can take another
right angled turn.
Did the fact that you are the
strongest voice in the Socred
cabinet for education influence
your decision to run again ?
Do you find you are the strongest
voice in the Socred cabinet?
Yes. But that's natural. After all,
I'm   the   minister.   The   minister
should be.
So I guess the whole scene prompts another question. Will you
resign your seat if the Socreds lose
the fall election and return to the
Well uh . . .
There is a lot of debate over
whether you can extend your tenure
or whether your tenure will be extended if you take another term of
Well yes. You see the circumstance is, as you can see, I have
a laboratory here and I'm in it. So
the necessity for me to be on faculty
is so that the research grants come
in and post doctoral people can be
hired by the university to do work.
Obviously I get paid by the
government so that my faculty
status has nothing to do with me
personally. It has to do with the
research programs that I manage.
And obviously my resigning essentially destroys a functioning
research team.
When Henry Kissinger was
secretary of state he made the same
request of Harvard and they said
Well. I think if I were secretary of
state I then would certainly not feel
it necessary or even desirable to
continue. When Henry Kissinger
was secretary of state, I don't think
he wrote 90 papers and wrote two
books. I don't think minister of
universities is at all like secretary of
state. I see little value in destroying
a research team.
Is there going to be a fall election?
Your guess is better than mine.
After all, it is the mood of the
public that determines whether or
not there is an election.
/ suppose then that the recent
Socred poll asked whether or not
the public wanted an election?
I guess if you're government, you
want to know how many people are
going to vote for you. If you take a
poll and you find the public want to
vote for you, that means for you,
they want an election.
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For information about program and fees, call 291-4771. Registrations
accepted on site, but since space is limited, preregistration is
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Is Rock and Roll
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Monday—Battle of the Sexes
Tues.—T & A Night
Wed.—Ladies Night
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Open 8:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m.
Nightly from 8 p.m.-10 p.m.
M.T.V.    live   from    N.Y.    on
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932 Granville Mall      687-6418
in SUB basement
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Two Shows Nightly
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entertainment with prizes. WEDNESDAY Ladies
Night with exotic male dancers & male waiters.
The Best Live Rock club in town,
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rock bands. Open Monday thru
Saturday evenings.
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Spent Youth: 8:30 p.m., tonight, Grad
centre. Touchstone theatre benefit dance.
Tickets $5 advance at AMS Ticket centre, $6
at door.
Steelback: rock 8:30 p.m.. Gators,
7100 Elmbridge Way. Richmond. To
Sept. 18.
Trama: rock, 8:30 p.m.. Gators. Sept.
20 to 25.
The Imperials: blues, 8 p.m., Queen
Elizabeth Playhouse. VTC/CBO.
Rio Bumba: afro-latin, tonight, Soft
Rock Cafe, 1925 W. 4th Ave.
Reconstruction: reggae, Sept. 18, Soft
Rock Cafe.
The Hart Bros.: folk, Sept. 19, Soft
Rock Cafe.
Auditions: folk blues jazz, Sept. 21, Soft
Rock Cafe.
Wildroot Orchestra: rock-folk, tonight.
The Town Pump, 66 Water Street,
Auditions: tonight, for students wishing
to play in the 1982-83 Academy Orchestra.
Phone 734-2301 for audition time.
Music Swap: 10 a.m., Sept. 18,
Orchestra Rehearsal Room, Music centre.
734-2301 for more information.
Gerald Stanick: 12:30 p.m., Recital Hall,
Music building.
UBC family housing film series: SUB
auditorium: Fiddler On the Roof, 7 p.m.,
Sept. 21. Students with valid AMS card, $1;
$2 general admission.
at National Film Board theatre, 1151 W.
Rome: Open City, 7:30 and 9:30 p.m.,
Sept. 19. A milestone in Italian neo-realism,
by Roberto Rossellini.
Kiss Me Deadly: 7:30 and 9:30 p.m.,
Sept. 22.
RIDGE Theatre (16th and Arbutus,
738-6311): Aug. 17 to 19: Performance,
with Mick Jagger, 7:30 p.m.; A Clockwork
Orange, 9:30 p.m. Sept. 19: The Gypsy. 4
p.m. Sept. 20-21: Mother Kuster's Trip to
Heaven, 7:30 p.m.; Chinese Roulette,
9:30 p.m. Sept. 22-23: Kurosawa's Dersu
Uzala, 7:30 p.m.; Nicholas Roeg's
Walkabout, 9:30 p.m.
Commercial), 253-5455): Sept. 17-19: Roger
Vadim's Barberella. with Jane Fonda, 7:30
p.m.; Cat Ballou, with Lee Marvin, 9:30
p.m. Sept. 20-21: Apprenticeship of
Duddy Kravitz, 7:30 p.m.; The Fixer, 9:30
p.m. Sept. 22-23: The Long Good Friday.
7:30 p.m.; The Amateur, 9:30 p.m. Sept.
19: 1860, 2 p.m; Viva Italy, 3:15 p.m.
Admission: $3 for both films. Presented by
Intituto Italiano di Cultura.
The SAVOY (2321 Main at 8th)
872-2124): Sept. 17-19: Ragtime, 7:30 p.m.;
One, Two, Three, 10 p.m. Sept. 18:
Eraserhead. Midnite series, Sept. 20-21:
The Girl Can't Help It, 7:30 p.m.:
Jailhouse Rock, 9:15 p.m. Sept. 22-13:
Bonnie and Clyde. 7:30 p.m.; Cool Hand
Luke, 9:30 p.m.
They're Playing Our Song: Neil Simon
musical comedy (read mush), 8:30 p.m.,
held over to Sept. 25. Arts Club theatre
on Granville Island. 687-1644.
.  at Folk Music Festival.
Meeting for those interested in joining the news
or sports departments. 1 p.m., SUB 233.
General meeting, all welcome, noon, Brock hall
Orientation: wine and cheese. 7 p.m., Graduate
student centre.
First generel meeting certified and noncertifted
referees welcome, 1:30-2:X p.m. War Memorial
gym.   Rm. 32.
Registration for fall ballet, jazz and dancercise
classes, first dance workshop, sale of T shirts
and legwarmers. For more info., SUB 216E, or
the club's day booth.
Talking Dirty: Sherman Snukal's long-
running (understatement) play, 8:30 p.m.,
held over to Sept. 25. Arts Club on
Seymour. 687-1644. Box Office.
Love Among the Women: by Fay
Weldon, 8:30 p.m., City Stage, 751
Thurlow. Reservations and more
information, 688-1436.
Cold Comfort: dreary Canadian play and
production, 8:30 p.m., to Oct. 2.
Vancouver East Cultural Centre, 1895
Entertaining Mr. Sloane: great play by
British playwright Joe Orton, 8 p.m., to Oct.
2. Previews Sept. 22, Freddy Wood.
Axis Mime theatre: 8 p.m. to Oct. 9,
Firehall Theatre, 280 E. Cordova.
Once a Catholic: supposedly a hilarious
comedy by Mary O'Malley, 8 p.m., James
Cowan Theatre, 6450 Gilpin Street,
Burnaby, to Sept. 18 and Sept. 22-25.
Beyond Seeing: photos by
phototherapists Joel Walker and Judy
Weiser, to Oct. 10, Presentation House,
333 Chesterfield Avenue, North Van.
Chinese Architecture: Lectures, 7:30
p.m., Sept. 23. By Li Zai-Chen. Vancouver
Museum Auditorium, 1100 Chestnut
Park, Vanier Park.
Paula Ross: Dance, tonight and Sept.
18. Embraceable You, Shades of Red, film
about Paula Ross. 3488 West Broadway,
732-9513. Admission: $4, $2 childen.
Literary Storefront: Poetry Reading by
Maxilne Gadd, tonight, 8 p.m., free, 314
Cordova St.
Literary Storefront: Fiction poetry
reading by George Payerle, Sept. 23, 8 p.m.
Take Back the Night, rally and walk
women against violence, Sept. 17, Mount
Pleasant Community Centre, 7:30.
Theatre Department
Week-end conference to form a B C. student
peace coalition.  7:00 p.m.   Friday     4:00 p.m.
Sunday UBC Whistler ski cabin. Contact Gary
Marchant at 734-2714 for further information.
Film showing:  "Prophecy."  Followed  by brief
general meeting. Noon Sub 205.
Guest lecture sponsored by advocates for human
life:   U.   of   Cal.,   Berkeley;   Jonn   T.   Hoonan,
"Abortion and Fundamental rights," Noon, Law
Dim.   Sum.   10:30  a.m,   (stragglers  welcome).
Further   details   at   office,   SUB   239;   phone
Talk on Egypt by His Excellency, the ambassador
of Egypt, Tahsin Beshir. 12:30. Buchanan A 203,
Annual sale of indoor plants. 12:00 to 3:00 p.m.
Friday, Sept. 17. Botanical Garden Office and
Educational Centre, 6501 Northwest Marine Dr.
Volunteer reeders needed to record books for the
blind. Call 228-6111 and ask for Lynne to arrange
an audition.
Public   lecture,   John   T.      NoDnar,   Univ.   of
California Berkeley.
"Abortion and fundamental rights: the Pro-Life
Noon,   Law 101.
Practice,    everybody    welcome,    10:00    p.m.,
Aquatic Centre. Ignore Horatio.
Movie: Just like at home — (Olyan Mint Otthonl,
6 and 8:30 p.m., Sub Auditorium.
General meeting, noon, SUB 212.
General meeting, 5 p.m., SUB 213.
by Euripides
(November 17-27)
Directed by Klaus Strassmann
Open to all UBC Students, Faculty Et Staff
WEDNESDAY, September 15, 2:30-5:30 pm
THURSDAY, September 16, 7:00-10:00 pm
FRIDAY, September 17, 12:30-2:30 pm
Audition appointments may be arranged in advance
through the Theatre Department Office, Room 207,
Frederic Wood Theatre Bldg. or Telephone 228-3880
COME ONE ********** COME ALL
Second annual Terry Fox Marathon of Hope, 2-4
p.m., registration outside Osborne centre.
Gym. F. Hosted by UBC intramurals.
General meeting, noon, SU8 213.
General meeting, noon, room 32, War Memorial
Public lecture, S, C. Coval, UBC dept. of
Philosophy: "Abortion and fundamental rights:
the Pro-Choice position."   Noon, Law 101.
Friday. Sept. 17
Want  to   see  what   nuclear  war
is really like? Students for Peace and
Mutual Disarmament are showing the
film, Prophecy.
Come to SUB 206 at noon today and
see what the U.S. government has been
hiding. This film contains extensive
footage of the Hiroshima bombing that
was kept classified until this year. It has
some super-effective and inspiring
Women    take    back    the    nightl
Vancouver Rape Relief has organized
the annual walk and rally against
violence against women.
Meeting point is at the Mount Pleasant community centre, 3161 Ontario,
at 7:30. Childcare will be provided.
RATES: AMS Card Holders - 3 lines, 1 day $2.50; additional
lines, 60c. Commercial — 3 lines, 1 day $4.20; additional lines, 63c. Additional days, $3.80 and 58c.
Classified ads are not accepted by telephone and are payable in
advance. Deadline is 10:30 a.m. the day before publication.
Publications Office, Room 241, S.U.B., UBC, Van., B.C. V6T2AS
5 — Coming Events
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CLASSES: Wednesdays 7:30-10:30 pm.
Beginning and Intermediate levels. Campus
and Community Members Welcome. UBC
International House Information Marcia
Snider 738-1246, Richard Spratley 228-3652
BAHAJ'I FAITH — Informal discussion. This
week's topic: What is the Baha'i Faith? this
Friday, 8 p.m. 5529 Univ. Blvd. Tel:
224-3596. All welcome.
LOST: Gold, engraved cross pen between
E Lot and Law Bldg. Call Dave, 738-5107,
Big Bucks for its return.
70 — Services
MODE COLLEGE of Barbering and Hairstyl-
mg. Student hairstyle, $8.50. Body wave,
$17 and up. 601 W  Broadway, 874-0633.
For Sale — Private
FOR SALE. Near new Erika protable manual
typewriter. $80. Ph: 224-7242.
FOR SALE. 69 VW Bus. Runs well. $2000.
Call 987-5903 after $6:30 p.m. weekdays.
DATSUN 510. Fibreglass fenders. $125 pair.
Dave. 596-0298.	
20 — Housing
Cayce style deep trance
readings. Any question in the
world. Booking now for DON
DAUGHTRY'S September visit
to Vancouver. Call Pat Wood,
ON CAMPUS. Room and board $2800. At
5725 Agronomy. 224-9620.
30 — Jobs
FREE HAIRCUT: Cheek to Cheek requires
models for apprentice training in haircut
ting. Work supervised by experts. Please
ph. Donna or Wanita, 733-7795.
WANTED — women's field hockey coach
4 hrs./wk. esp. Sat. 'til Dec. Honorarium.
Contact Judy, 261-4714/687-3333 or
Rosalind, 873-0568.
NUTRITION & HEALTH. Major international
company has local openings for outgoing
people, part-time work, full time income.
Call 531-4383.
TOUCH FOOTBALL REFS. needed for Oct.
9lh Tournament at $8/game. Leave name £f
number at 732-5595.
85 — Typing
35 — Lost
A lot of sentimental value. Call Barb
LOST: Irish Setter, beach trail #6, Wed. the
15th. Call 263-0464.
REWARD $50. For the return of my cat. Male
1 yr. old with white spot on belly. Lost
Sept. 8th around the Law Bldg. Call
224-7720 days or 682-8073 evenings.
EXPERT TYPING essays, term papers, fac
turns, letters, manuscripts, resumes, theses.
IBM Selectric II, Reasonable rates. Rose,
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TIRED OF TYPING? Rent time on a word
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cheap — and easy. For further information
phone Tom at 224-1061.
term papers, etc. $10 hr. Jeeva 876-5333.
TYPING. Special student rates. Filtness Ef
Cameron, public stenographers, 5760 Yew
(Kerrisdale). Ph. 266-6814.
ACCURATE Professional Typing in my
home. Near Alma and Fourth $150 per d s
page. Call Audrey 228-0378. Page 24
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