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Friday,4 November, 2005   THEUBYSSEY
Worlds a scattered song and dance
Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of
the War of the Worlds
HR MacMillan Planetarium
until November 20
by Matt Hayles
When I first heard of the rock-opera
version of H.G. Wells' science fiction classic The War of the Worlds, I
thought the internet might once
again be pulling my leg. But a few
weeks later, quite by chance, I came
across a poster for Jeff Wayne's
Musical Version of the War of the
Worlds' Vancouver debut, appropriately set for the H.R MacMillan
According to the project's website, The War of the Worlds is the
best-selling musical of aU time,
the soundtrack having charted in
twenty-two countries worldwide
since the show's debut in 1978,
and has since been dubbed into
nearly as many languages. The
score is heavily synthesised and
prog-rock-inspired, culminating
in an eclectic medley of sounds
that manages to somehow come
across as not entirely absurd
when I Hsten to a bootlegged copy
before the show. Then again, the
entire idea is absurd. Going into
the Planetarium on Saturday
night, I was not sure of the composer's intentions. Is this a joke?
Under the domed canopy of the
Planetarium's Star Theatre, the
excited audience members seat
themselves expectantly—kids, parents, and .the occasional enthusiast
for DiscDrive, the CBC radio pro-,
gram whose host, Jurgen Goethe,
will command the stage as the
Narrator/Journalist One quarter of
the room is set aside for the performers, submerged in the centre
stage cavity is the ominous, insectlike abdomen of the main projector.
The lights dim, and the show
begins with Goethe's powerful narration. With eighteen years of radio
under his belt he has a superb spoken voice, projecting himself with
just the right sense of foreboding.
The music, too, is spectacular; the
Hve five-piece band easily Hves up to
the standards set by the original
recording. Co-director and
sequencer Stephen Bulat manages
to overcome the limitations of the
space, which is not designed for theatre choreography, and cleverly
focuses the action on the projector's
pit The projector itself occasionally
rises up as a Martian, a cute trick
that makes good use of its naturally
hulking frame. But as the show progressed, my own sense of foreboding increased accordingly.
My first disappointment comes
when I realise that Goethe doesn't
actuaUy sing himself— all of his
songs are covered by other members of the cast, a tactic that
becomes increasingly confiising as
the show goes on. Andy Toth, who
ostensibly plays the part of the
delirious preacher Nathaniel,
overstretches an otherwise strong
performance when he takes over
for Goethe. Renee Cook (Beth) also
drops out of her range occasionally, and her self-conscious posing
comes across as a bit too Baroque
in the context of the show.
Fortunately, Neil Minor (as
Artilleryman) is a consistently
strong performer his and Toth's
maniacal soliloquies are the cer
tain highlights of the show.
Entirely missing from this rendition is the vocal part of the
Martians, whose haunting cries
drive much of the action in the original score. And while the light show
is impressive, Bulat overuses the
Star Theatre's available arsenal of
projectors and lasers, and in the
end it looks more like he's showing
off than actually defining the scene
or music. In the hurried days leading up to the first show, Bulat managed to rig the system to have the
Martian fighting machines shoot
lasers out from behind the screen.
But the overlapping layers of pro
jections don't always mix well with
each other or the more abstract
laser patterns, and the overall effect
is a clumsy visual palimpsest
The main draw of the evening is
the band, but when you add in the
vocals the overall acoustic experience isn't terribly impressive,
given that the original can be
streamed online for free. Geothe is
an excellent narrator, but since he
can't sing himself, his value to an
opera is questionable. I was excited
for such a unique and bizarre
evening, but left disappointed by
the final result And I still don't
know if it's a joke or not II
Matthew Good with
special guests the Ladies
and Gentlemen
The Commodore Ballroom
November 4 and 5,8pm
Enjoy the greatest hits of
Vancouver's homegrown
talent as he plays the
Commodore for two
straight nights;
timebombs discouraged.
Canada's International
Policy Statement
Conference Room 120,
Institute of Asian Research
November 4, 1-2:30pm
Discover Canada's future
diplomatic plans as Michael
Eyestone, Deputy Director of
the Policy Planning Division of
Foreign Affairs Canada, comes
to UBC to speak about
Canada's new vision for
the world.
University Singers
The Chan Centre
November 4,8pm
The prize-winning mixed
ensemble offers beautiful
choral music for your listening
pleasure. Bring a date...
or don't.
Living the Global City
Lecture and Discussion
Various venues
November 3-23
Sustainable development is on
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9th Annual Hopscotch
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November 4,6-11pm
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14th Annual Vancouver
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Vancouver Museum
November 4-5,
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Press Number 0040878022 THEUBYSSEY   Friday,4 November, 2005
Deepa Mehta's Water reflections
now playing
by Ann Hui
Ten years ago in India, filmmaker Deepa Mehta
saw an old woman on the steps of the Ganges
River. According to Mehta, the woman was
"bent like a shrimp, her body wizened with age,
white hair shaved close to her scalp, she scampered on all fours, furiously looking for something she had lost. She was given scant attention even when she sat down to cry." This image
was to become indelible in Mehta's mind, and
set forth the ten-year struggle to get her latest
film, Water completed.
The woman Mehta saw that day in the Holy
City of Varanasi was a Hindu widow, one of an
estimated 34 million in India. India today is
home to the largest population of widows in the
world. Immediately following their husbands'
deaths, Hindu widows (often as young as eight
or nine) are routinely sent to Hve with other
widows in ashrams, where according to tradition they must live in penitence. Indian widows
are commonly considered the pariahs of Indian
society, their presence so offensive that even
their shadows are kept away from married
women. These women often hve in cramped
and meager conditions, left with no choice but
to beg for food, and to wait patiently to die.
Water is the final film in Mehta's controversial
and critically acclaimed trilogy of the elements.
The first film in the trilogy, Fire, which explored
the oppression of Indian women within the household as well as the issue of lesbian relationships,
was met with wild criticism from right wing and
Hindu fundamentalist groups. During the 1998
release of Fire, these groups rampaged through
theatres that were showing the film, smashing
glass and burning posters in protest And when
Mehta began filming for Water two years later, a
rioting mob of 2000 attacked and burned the sets
of the film and issued death threats against her,
despite receiving approval by the Indian government to begin shooting the film.
Effigies of the director were burnt in cities
across the country, until an attempted suicide on
the part of a protester (who later turned out to be
a 'professional suicide attempted hired by various
right-wing groups) caused the local government to
shut down the production under the pretence of
public safety. Mehta was forced to return to
Toronto, and the production was cancelled.
From a hotel in Vancouver just days before
the film festival screening, Mehta talks about
the widow problem in India: "It's what the text
of Manu [Hindu sacred text] says, a woman is
half-body of her husband when he is alive, and
then when he dies, she becomes half dead.
However, the texts were written by men, interpreted by men, misinterpreted by men." Mehta
continues, arguing that an economic privilege
is at play. "It's all economic, it really is," she
says. "It benefits the households and the men if
a woman who is a widow is sent away under the
guise of religion."
Mehta directed and wrote the screenplay for
Water, which tells the story of one such widow's
ashram during Mahatma Gandhi's rise to power
in colonial India. Water traces the journey of
eight-year-old Chuyia after the death of her
much-older husband; from a wedding she doesn't even remember. Chuyia's feisty presence
and relentless questioning of the traditions
inject some much-needed life to the house, and
forces the other widows to question their own
traditions, faith, and place within Indian society.
Canadian Lisa Ray plays Chuyia, a beautiful
young widow who is prostituted by the matriarch
of the house and ostracized by the rest of the
women. Kalyani quickly befriends Chuyia, and as
result her life and the Hves of all of the other
women in the house are forever changed.
Mehta argues that the themes her films deal
with, including patriarchy and the oppression of
women, are universal themes, not just limited to
Indian culture: "Things that I talk about it could be
anyone. It could be Christianity, it could be
Judaism, it could be Buddhism. It's dreadful, and
they're all interpreted by men."
But Mehta is reluctant to embrace labels that
brand her as a "feminist" filmmaker. "I like to
think of myself as a humanist, before I think of
myself as a feminist, because that's more important," she says. "I think of myself as a filmmaker,
who happens to be a woman. It's very important
[to tell the stories of women], but these are just
stories that I was curious about, indignant
about, felt passionate about. So I approached
them as a storyteller. I would hate to be limited
to women's films."
It took nearly five years to put the production of Water back together, in Sri Lanka, where
it was filmed under a false name, with a new
cast, and a strict code of secrecy. Whereas most
films hire publicists who routinely leak news to
the press regarding the production of their
film, Mehta hired what she calls an 'anti-publicist' to divert press attention away from the
The film is now complete and has already
been lauded as Mehta's best work yet. With so
many people putting forth such tremendous
efforts in having this film silenced, you expect
something powerful.
And it is. Water is a profoundly moving film,
which tells the heartbreaking story of millions
through the intimate and nuanced portrayal of
the women in the ashram. Painful, honest, and
inspiring, Water is truly beautiful. Although
Mehta's explanation of the complex widow situation in India can at times seem overly
simplistic, Water is one of those rare films
where you feel that what you are watching transcends the action depicted up on screen. U
Shooting Water: "We had to come together as a family to deal with it"
by Ann Hui
After working as part of the crew on the film
Water, Devyani Saltzman returned to Toronto in
June 2004 knowing that she had an incredible
story to tell. But she was unsure whether her
story would translate into anything more than a
few thousand words. It wasn't until her mother;
filmmaker Deepa Mehta (writer and director of
Water) persuaded her to attend a meeting with
Key Porter Books that she realized what she had
in her head was a novel.
At first, Saltzman had doubts about writing
the book, "I was terrified", she admits. "But I
thought, 'it has to be told, it was important for
me.' So I went away and did it."
The result, a memoir entitled Shooting
Water, was released last month and is available
across Canada in major bookstores. According to
Saltzman, the memoir is about three things: the
film's five year odyssey, the politics behind the
shutdown of the film, and most importantly, the
relationship between her mother and herself.
"It's really a love story between my mom and
I," says Saltzman. "My parents divorced when I
was very young, and I had to choose, and I chose
my Dad. I carried that burden for many years,
and I don't think anyone should have to choose."
For Saltzman, "the book was about coming to
terms with my Mom, with that choice, and our
coming together as mother'and daughter."
Before making Water, the extent of Devyani's
involvement in her mother's films was as an
extra in the 1996 film Fire (credited as 'girl in
video shop'). 13 years old and shy at the time,
Devyani sums up the experience bluntly: "I
hated it." Nine years later, working as a still
photographer and camera assistant on the set
of Water, Devyani found the experience much
more rewarding.
"Water brought us closer together. Because all
of a sudden there's this scary threat (Hindu fundamentalist groups issuing death threats and
conducting violent protests aimed often at Mehta
herself), so we had to come together as a family
to deal with it." Above all, Saltzman says, "I really learned to respect her through seeing her
work, and she learned to respect me. Although
we work in different mediums, I love film, and
she loves books."
For Devyani, the most rewarding part of writing this book has been to share the story about
her relationship with her mother with all people
who've gone through similar experiences. She
says, "I've had young kids come up to me and say
1 was really moved', and 'that's cool to hear'." II
The Puruvian
war on terror
Pacific Cin6mathkque
November 6
by Aman Rai
To most, the first three in the
sequence trigger the recall of historical events or tragedies. But the
last name may seem unfamiliar.
Abimael Guzman played a critical
role in Peru's social history, and
his influence on rural Peruvians,
facilitated by his Shining Path missions, is brilliantly documented in
Pamela Yates, Paco de Onis and
Peter Kinoy's State of Fear.
State of Fear highlights the
strife of the Peruvian population
through the use of interviews,
videos, and expert accounts. Gut-
wrenching scenes range from
limbless bodies, to child soldiers,
to a woman describing her gang
rape. This documentary not only
depicts the social impact and
results of the Shining Path terrorism, but also places the events in
context by diverging into the political causes of the "war on terror."
The Shining Path movement was a
direct product of the economic
and political disparities that
plagued the Peruvian masses.
Abimael Guzman was a
Peruvian academic who created
the Shining Path, a Marxist
inspired revolutionary group,
which had the aim of overthrowing the democratic government
and replacing it with the revolutionary peasantry. Guzman's
Shining Path provided an outlet
for discontent and organized the
struggling lower class, through the
usage of mass propaganda and
anti-capitalist jargon, into a terror-,
ist militia to bring down the
Peruvian government.
Much of the commentary is presented by political observer Carlos
Ivan Degregori, who recalls his
earliest encounters with Guzman
as well as the ultimate demise of
Alberto Fujimori's tyrannical
regime. This first hand account
provides depth and insigut into
the events tihat unfolded in Peru
from 1980, the beginning of the
insurgence until 2000, the fall of
the dictatorship.
This documentary gives due
attention to the horrendous
human rights injustices that took
place during Peru's war on terror.
The sights of war torn villages and
impoverished and maimed children are enough to clench anyone's heart and soul. Yates and
company had a mission to create
awareness and education about
the Peruvian war on terror and
their mission was accomplished
by the events documented in State
of Fear.
Currently, Peru has a democratic government in office that has
been accused of corruption and
influence-peddling. Approval ratings of the government have
steadily declined since 2001 as
the electorate has acknowledged
the transparency of Peruvian corruption. Fear of insurgencies are
surfacing once again.
State of Fear plays at 4:55pm
on Sunday November 6 at the
Pacific Cinematheque. IB
The 10th Annual Amnesty
International Film Festival runs
until November 6. Check
http://www. amnesty, be. ca/filmfest/
for a list of Sims and fihowtimes.
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Spend an evening with Gwar
by Ben Coli
"The Cuttlefish of Ctulu is my penis/
said Oderus Urangus. "It's not really
a penis so much as a fish—anyway,
my lawyer has advised me to tell
everyone it's a fish, so I'm sticking to
that But yes, it is a dangling, hideous
appendage between my legs that
squirts many thousands of gallons of
syphilitic pus all over the audience
every night"
Oderus Urungus, aka Dave
Brockie, is the lead singer of Gwar,
the legendary gore-core metal
band. The Ubyssey was lucky
enough to land an interview and
talked to him so you don't have to!
Oderus taught us things that no
amount of alcohol or therapy will
ever allow us to unlearn.
Gwar is a group of five guys who
wear masks and armour and play
metal really fast. That sounds like
any Saturday night in Surrey, but
their five show is legendary. We've
collected reports of life-changing
Gwar concert stories, including sudden blindness, religious epiphany
and apostasy, bleeding from the
nose and ears, slight nausea and
unexplained cases of stickiness.
What's going on at these concerts?
Why are they so tragically popular?
When asked why the masses flock
to their shows, Oderus told us, "while
we are trying to play our music, we
are continually attacked on stage by a
host of superpowered adversaries
who are trying to rip our brains out of
our heads, and, you know, it's tough
to carry a tune when Gor Gor is chewing on your scrotum."
Gor Gor chews on his scrotum?
"Gor Gor is our 20-foot
tall mutant tyrannosaurus rex,"
informs Oderus.
Gor Gor the mutant tyranosaurus
rex chews on his scrotum. The band
keeps playing through all of this.
Oderus's marble bag is just the
appetizer, though.
"Gor Gor of course eats at least
400 people a night," said Oderus.
"Sometimes lucky people actually get
to come on stage and be eaten aHve
by Gor Gor."
People pay to come to the show
and get eaten?
"Yeah," Oderus said. "That's the
weirdest part. They pay money to
be assailed by our dubious musical
abilities and have the shit kicked
out of them and then be eaten by a
dinosaur while their girlfriend is
torn apart by wild pigs. They pay
out the ass, yes, and they buy a lot
of merchandise."
Ocferus obviously isn't one who
worries about offending people
when he speaks. Nor does he
appear to be at all concerned with
the things he says and how it might
play out in the press. Some people
wouldn't tell an interviewer "I eat
several bowls of dick a day," but
that's exactly what Oderus told the
Ubyssey. Most people would worry
that an unethical journalist would
take it out of context and use it to
make him look bad.
In context, what Oderus actually
said was, "we like to lubricate our guitars and massive death machines
with the blood of humans. We
feast on human blood and
human brain tissue and
I eat dicks. In fact
sometimes I eat several bowls of dick
a day. It's quite a spectacle. Where I
come from it's pretty normal, but
here on earth people think it's something special."
Somehow, context doesn't help.
And what's with all of this eating of
male genitalia?
Indeed, there's nothing much that
Oderus is afraid of saying. Let's take a
look at some lines from Fistful of
Teeth, a track from Gwar's latest
album. War Party:
"And then I saw you/You had
tears in your eyes/And when we
impaled your family/I felt I should
apologise/Soon we mated with
fury/Our mutant baby had a worm
for an arm/Its face was blistered
and furry/But not without charm."
If that bit of fatherly pride doesn't
jerk a tear from you, then I'm afraid
you're incurably insensitive.
Are we so jaded that to be entertained, we have to watch someone
have his scrotum chewed on by a
tyrannosaurus rex while he shouts
out metal lyrics and eats bowls full
of dicks?
I think we are. Fortunately, we
have Oderus Urungus and the
good folks from Gwar to save us
from ennui.
Come on down to the Commodore
Ballroom on Saturday night and
bring the whole family. After all,
everyone needs something to talk
about with their therapist IB THEUBYSSEY   Friday, 4 November, 2005
I can't believe I Saw this movie; I can't believe ifs number 2
Now playing
by Terry Boake
It comes as no surprise that Saw 2 is
worse than its campy predecessor.
With performances that are slightly
better, and dialogue that is slightly
worse, the same kind of stock characters find themselves in devastating
circumstances in which they must
sacrifice something crucial (often a
body appendage) to survive some
sociopath's demented torture traps.
Therein lays the problem. Is this
really a detour from Saw? Or is it
just a ghoulish tour-de-force that
regurgitates the same old hellish
visuals to make a quick buck?
This time around, the Jigsaw
killer, a decrepit cancer patient who
punishes those who don't appreciate
their blessings, abducts eight people
and places them in a httie house of
horrors. The ventilation in the house
is rigged with a deadly nerve agent
that slowly seeps through the house.
The victims have two hours to find
either the escape route or one of several antidotes hidden amongst the
deadly traps scattered throughout
Failure to comply with either results
in a horrific and graphic death.
To stay true to the trend of modern horror films, every character is
so terribly written that their decisions
and dialogue are just unbelievable.
They are instruments to drive the
plot as straight forward as possible.
They are also outrageously stupid;
none seem able to follow the easy
directions Jigsaw gives them to sur-
vive his httie game. This is the first
narrative of the two over-lapping narratives that thread through Saw 2.
The    second    subject   is    Eric
Matthews, the bad-ass cop who actually apprehends Jigsaw in his hideout
within the first fifteen minutes of the
film. This might seem like an odd
plot development, but you mustn't
assume anything to be a coincidence.
Eric soon discovers that his son is
one of the eight detainees, and watches the depraved action unfold in real
time through several monitors. He is
then drawn into the deadly scheme
himself, as a pathetic game of cat-
and-mouse between Eric and Jigsaw
unfolds simultaneously with the
events within the house of horrors.
This is ostensibly to build suspense,
but instead becomes excruciating to
sit through, as all of the characters act
in such ridiculous manner that true
tension is never sustained.
But perhaps the film's biggest
disappointment is the lack of originality behind Jigsaw's traps: none
are as impressive as any found in
the original Saw. This is supposed
to be the reason to see the film. But
most of the directions to each trap
in the sequel are either unexplained or are based on a certain
character surviving long enough to
make it to those traps designed
specifically for them; impossible to
plan, but this is the cruz Saw 2 is
built upon—fortunate coincidence.
Surprisingly enough, the finale
is absolutely amazing, and almost
saves the film...almost. But again,
the recurring problem with modern
horror films: most are written solely with the climax in mind, sacrificing the character depth and narrative to drive the plot in a realistic
fashion. It's just bad storytelling.
Saw 2 ultimately suffers from
more of the same. There will be
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The slowest disaster
How BC's Mountain Pine Beetle epidemic is setting the tone for things to come
Feature 7
The Interior of BC isn't green these days, it's a sea
of red, a carpet of dead and dying trees.
A tiny bug, the size of a grain of rice, is changing the face of our forests—and the economy of
the Interior along with it. The Mountain Pine
Beetle (MPB), Dendroctonus ponderosae if you
want to get Latin about it, is by no means a
stranger to the woods of western North America.
Fossil records of the beetles found in bogs go as
far back as 30,000 years ago. Nonetheless,
they've emerged from the swamps of time to
become what is being termed the largest insect
epidemic in North American history.
Sadly, good ol' humankind is partly to blame.
Our greenhouse gases, also credited with melting
the polar icecaps and other nasty effects, are helping change the planet's climate, leading to global
warming. Because of global warming, beetle mortality rates have plummeted; more of their eggs are
surviving beneath the bark of trees during milder
winter seasons.
Also to blame is our long history of fire suppression and our tendency to over-encourage the
growth of pine forests—the province's most commercially harvested tree species. Safe from fire,
there is now more mature pine in BC than ever
before, which translates into more fodder and nesting sites for the pine beetles, which need lodgepole
pine to continue their life cycle. This is why populations have surged to such massive numbers, far
out of reach of any serious human intervention.
The ravages of the epidemic have so far been
limited within the borders of our fair province,
renowned for its evergreen woods the world over.
By 2004, the beetles had tainted seven million
hectares of those forests, all in a time-span of about
ten years.
The economic consequences of their penchant
for pine are rather dire: the provincial government
estimates that the mountain pine beetle infestation
will have critical economic implications for 30
communities around the province, which will in
turn determine how 25,000 families will go about
earning their wages in the future. As the pine
forests slowly die off in the next ten to 15 years, one
wonders as to what will happen to the people who
depend on them.
It is here that an interesting pattern begins to
emerge. Faced with a natural disaster that will take
a decade to really make itself felt, the people in BC
have been given the same amount of time to
prepare themselves. It's a little like warning farmers in Saskatchewan about an impending drought,
and then giving them ten years advance notice. A
natural disaster in slow motion, the MPB epidemic
raises the following two questions: what are we
doing to prevent a social and economic depression,
and will it be enough?
Quesnel: tomorrow's ghost-town?
Nate Bello is principal of an alternate school, family man and mayor of Quesnel, BC, arguably one of
the hardest-hit towns in the province. He's known
for being straight-shooting and tenacious, which
helps explain why he's won the last four consecutive mayoral elections. He credits his poHtical success to his door-to-door campaign strategy: he generally hits 80 per cent of the homes, in a city with a
population of 10,000 people, on foot. Bello is currently gearing up for yet another election, and says
the mountain pine beetle epidemic will easily be
the biggest challenge for whoever wins the post.
"We're the worst hit,* he says simply. "Quesnel
is the worst hit community, because we are so
dependent on the forest industry.*
Here's why: despite its tiny population,
Quesnel has six sawmills, two pulp mills and one
medium-density fiberboard (MDF) plant. The
sawmills alone provide 1,800 direct jobs, and
Bello estimates 7,200 people would be directly
affected if the mills went belly up. The gravity of
his city's situation is clear: "We're noted as the
most concentrated area for wood processing in
North America," he says grimly.
Outside his city's plight, Bello visualises the
problem in terms of the bigger picture. He
knows the scenario Quesnel is facing is just one
of many playing out in other cities and towns,
such as Burns Lake, Vanderhoof, Williams Lake
and 100 Mile House.
Lodgepole pine constitutes about 70 per cent
of the forest around Quesnel. It's also the dominant species in the rest of these communities,
which, taken together, form what is called the
province's 'pine belt.' Practically all of it is classified as dead or dying. To say people are concerned is an understatement.
Ironically, Quesnel and other cities are enjoying
something of a boom at the moment, made possible by a decision issued by the BC's Chief Forestor,
who is allowing the mills across the Cariboo-
Chilcotin and Omineca regions to cut a much higher number of trees than normally permitted under
the Ministry of Forest's Annual Allowable Cut
(AAC). While the pre-epidemic AAC for the Quesnel
district stood at 2.2 million cubic metres of wood,
these days it sits at over five million. To cope with
the huge swell of wood coming into their log-yards,
many sawmills have hired extra shifts and added
state-of-the-art upgrades to their operations. Both
the government and the logging industry are hop-
THAT PESKY RING AROUND THE COLLAR Beetles inadvertently bring the bluestain fungus
into the living part, or sapwood, of a tree.Together, the beetles and the fungus kill the tree in
a matter of weeks,   john worrall photo
by Bryan Zandberg features editor
ing to harvest as many of the dying trees as they
They only have a short window of opportunity to
do so. After a tree is first successfully attacked and
penetrated by beetles, the mills have around five
years to process lumber from the tree. If they don't
get to the tree during this time, it's game over for
cutting anything useful from the logs, which
become too dry and cracked to be of any good.
Like numerous other communities dotting the
Interior, Quesnel is going full steam in an attempt
to salvage as many trees as possible.
"Right now things are humming along,*
explains Bello, adding that as a result real estate is
up in his city as well. "It's a pretty positive climate
right now.*
But the prosperity is far from permanent. In
fact, it's more like a last-ditch bonanza before
Quesnel falls on hard economic times. In the next
five to ten years, the AAC will have to drop to less
than half of the old level in order to ensure a sustainable harvest of trees for future generations.
After all, the province's woodlands don't grow as
fast as they are being cut; in order to compensate
for the increased harvest going on right now, activity in the future will have to be severely curtailed.
In Quesnel, for example, it is forecasted that in ten
years the mills will only be allowed to handle about
one million cubic metres per year. The consequence of such a sharp drop in a city like Quesnel
spells sure economic disaster.
Alarmed by what he sees as a threat to the
future of Quesnel and the Interior of the province
in general, Bello has been an instrumental political figure, clamouring for the attention of officials
at both the federal and provincial levels. He
secured the sympathy of the Campbell government during a symposium on the problem in
November 2003, by stressing the unprecedented
threat of the MPB on rural communities, as well
as the need for concerted leadership and action to
address the issue. Those efforts, added to the
efforts of other community leaders, were rewarded with a $ 100 million grant from the federal government, along with an additional $101 million
from the provincial government.
The money is to be used in a number of different ways, ranging from silviculture restoration and
fuel management to research and economic development/diversification. A great deal of the money
will be used by business and community leaders in
order to plan what to do next.
Grateful, Bello nonetheless sees the federal and
provincial aid as a drop in the bucket compared to
what the Interior will need if it's going to make it
through the crippling years ahead.
* We're looking for over a billion dollars to come
in [to the province] to support us as we restructure
our economy" he says. "It's crucial."
Loggin'for a livin'
Further north, in the one-stoplight hamlet of
Telkwa, BC, lies the head office of John
Vandenberg's logging contracting company
Triantha Enterprises. Vandenberg, by phone,
sounds like a pretty buoyant and exuberant guy for
someone who works in a troubled industry. He tells
me that business is good; in the past four years, his
company has shot up to about 70 full-time employees, all of whom are flush with work in the bug-
wood. All of his machinery and employees have
shifted a couple hundred kilometers to the south, a
huge area of bug-attacked pine near Ootsa Lake,
just north of Tweedsmuir Park.
Before Vandenberg came in and got on the
phone, I spoke briefly with one ofhis employees,
a trucker named Alvin Jaarsma, who, when
asked if the mills were reaping fat profits from
the beetle infestation, languidly replies, "I think
they're coinin' her."
It's easy to see where Jaarsma could get this
notion. Mills normally have to pay between 30 to
40 dollars for every cubic meter of wood they cut,
which works out to ballpark $1,600 for every logging truck you see going down the road. Bug-infested trees, however, are classified as 'salvaged trees,"
and thus the forestry companies are paying a mere
25 cents per cubic metre. That's about ten dollars a
truck. The profit margins for the sawmills are, at a
glance, huge.
AFTER THE GOLD RUSH There isn't much green to be seen these days on a flight over Barkerville. john mclean photo
Vandenberg, however, doesn't seem willing to
jump the same conclusion.
"It doesn't break my heart to see the outfit I'm
working for making money, because at least I know
I'm going to get a cheque, right?"
He's been left holding the bag in the past, when
the company he was working for suddenly went tits
up. That experience made him sympathetic to the
reality that the mills have their bottom-lines, too.
"They've all got shareholders they have to
answer to, and if they're not turning a profit then
you know they're in trouble too."
George Hoberg, head of the Department of
Forest Resources at UBC, doesn't agree. He thinks
the 25 cent salvage rate is "way too low."
"It doesn't make any sense," he reasons. "It
makes sense when it is a modest exception to general pattern of healthy forest, but when it becomes
the dominant price for trees it just doesn't make
any sense at all."
Vandenberg begs to differ. "I know there's a big
perception out there from the media and the government that the sawmills are cutting the fat hog in
the ass," he declares, "but I'll tell you...I don't know
how they can honestly cut boards out of some the
stuff we bring."
He's talking about the poor quality of the timber coming in from beetle-killed logging blocks,
surprised any sawmill can turn it into a saleable
"They're making it go one way or another,"
he says.
Disagreements on stumpage fees aside, the sentiments of both Vandenberg and Hoberg coincide
when it comes to challenges facing the province's
logging sector. While Hoberg knows that the mills
are making what he calls "a tremendous amount of
money," he's quick to point out that it isn't an easy
time for the lumber industry in general in Canada.
"They have other challenges," he says. "Right
now the price of lumber is dropping and they still
face the softwood lumber duty [with the United
States]. And the exchange rate with the United
States is very unfavourable in terms of exports."
The softwood lumber dispute alone has cost the
Canadian industry billions of dollars and thousands of jobs. Compounding those problems is the
challenge of selling lumber cut from bug-killed
pine. Normally, pine casts a cheery yellow colour;
these days, buyers around the world are put off by
the blue pigment they are seeing in BC pine products—a result of the blue fungus that the mountain
pine beetle carries on its body, which makes its
way into the tree's sapwood once the beetle has
bored under the bark. In Japan, for example, the
construction industry refuses to build with blue-
stained pine, which means lumber producers have
had to scramble to find new niche markets for what
has been perceived as a sub-standard product. This
has lead to the current name pitched to would-be
buyers, a term no doubt dreamt up by casually
dressed salespeople: 'denim pine.' Nevertheless,
concerns have been raised in the southeastern US
markets as well, which find the blue-stain to be
similar in color to mildew.
Despite the rigours, Vandenberg is confident
about the long-term health of the industry. When
asked what the economic outlook is for himself and
his company in the next 15 years, he forecasts that
his company will have scaled down on staff and
moved back north, where there is less pine and
more species of tree that will survive the epidemic,
including spruce, hemlock, fir, and cedar.
Visions of future fortunes
Vandenberg may find that the economy has
undergone a complete metamorphosis in the
meantime. While nobody's saying that logging
won't continue in the Interior, just about everybody associated with the pine beetle epidemic
agrees that the economy is going to have to
undergo a radical transformation if logging communities are going to survive.
Dennis McKay is one of these people. He's an
MLA with the BC Liberals, and even if many people
have their political reservations (to put it nicely)
about the Campbell government, it's clear that
McKay and the Liberals have no shortage of plans
for re-shaping the future of BC's economy.
The breadth of these plans is sprawling,
although they tend not to depart from the traditional extraction-based economic model. As for
doing something with all of the dead-standing
trees that will be no use for making lumber,
McKay says they will be used to create electricity
by burning them in co-generation plants. Several
such efforts have already cropped up in places
like Williams Lake.
But it's clear the following ventures are dearer to the hearts of the Liberals: mining, oil and
gas, and hydroelectric power. McKay signals
proudly to a 400 per cent increase in terms of
mining exploration alone, since the Liberals
took office. Around $200 million was spent
probing for deposits last year.
If alarm bells are going off about the environmental impact of these projects, there doesn't
seem to be an outstanding cause for concern, or at
least for the moment While many in BC shiver to
think of the Liberals" plans for off-shore oil drilling
along our coastline, these plans have been stymied
by federal-provincial bickering about who owns the
rights to the deposits. As for the Liberal economic
agenda for the Interior, support for some of the
most important mines setting up shop light now
comes from some pretty unlikely places.
Nathan Cullen, a young, fiery MP with the NDP,
doesn't seem to bat an eye at the new initiatives
taking hold under the Liberal government He's
based out of Smithers, and has personally been out
to visit some of the new mines, including the much-
talked-about Galore Creek deposit He says that the
new philosophies that govern modern mining
practices make it possible for him to overcome his
reservations. When asked for his opinion on the
elated economic optimism of McKay, Cullen
doesn't hesitate to answer.
"Dennis isn't wrong on that," he says. "There is
an economic renaissance going on here."
What he does take issue with, however, is the
attitude of the federal government vis-a-vis the
mountain pine beetle problem, which he likes to
characterise in a single word: apathy.
"Generally it's 'over there," he says, referring to the reluctance of federal officials to
address the issue. Cullen, highly critical about
the federal government's approach to politics in
general (which he sums up as "fear-based"), says
that you would never see the same disinterest
over an environmental disaster on the other side
of the country.
"This is another "Western alienation' kind of
thing, it's not on their radar. If this was Quebec you
would have massive programs right now. But it's
not," he laments, "it's not Quebec. And we have to
ramp it up," he adds with a laugh.
Still, some of the federal parties seem to be
listening, even if it smells a bit like pork-barrel
politics. Tory leader Steven Harper, who stopped
in Quesnel on a pre-campaign visit a couple
months ago, promised Nate Bello and the
Interior of BC the billion dollars they're demanding if the Conservatives get elected. The federal
NDP has been making similar promises.
According to John McLean, who has been teaching forestry at UBC for the last 2 8 years, it might be
in Ottawa's best interest to perk up and pay a Httie
more attention.
McLean studies, among other things, how
pine beetles spread over such vast areas of land.
He's learned about the way they travel by wind.
As the beetles are blown ever nearer to the
Albertan border, there is the fear that they could
adapt themselves to attack and infest new
species of pine.
"If it can get through the hybrid zone," says
McLean, 'it could be carried along to the jackpine
in the rest of the country.'
BC's epidemic may just yet become a national issue, albeit in a destructive and unfortunate
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When the mills can't pay
the bills
Whether or not the federal government steps in and shows it is serious about helping, the feeling that
BC cannot sit around and wait
seems to be unanimous. And while
many people, like John Vandenberg,
see the health of the mills as being
synonymous with the health of the
community, there are others who
suspect that the mills will cut and
run when the AAC boom is over.
'Everyone's kind of saying look
we just got an upgrade so we'll be
ok/* says Cullen, referring to the
false sense of security among community members when they see the
mills building high-tech additions.
'But they're forgetting the transportability of these things.*
"These are multinational organisations; they regularly move shop.
And while it might cost them a couple million bucks to move, that's
Back in Quesnel, Mayor Bello
isn't going to take any chances, even
though he clearly nourishes the
hope that he'll manage to retain the
most prominent local mill. West
Fraser, by floating some hefty tax
incentives their way. If he wins the
upcoming election, he'll continue
with wide-ranging plans to diversify
the economic base of his city. He
lists his economic and social agenda
as follows: increased tourism; a new
fiber research centre run in conjunction with BCIT; increased agriculture; retirement incentives to
keep locals and attract retirees from
other centres; linking and expanding Quesnel's College of New
Caledonia with UNBC and tapping
into oil and gas reserves in the area.
Neither hurtland nor
heartland, but srnartland
Cullen sees the importance of the
communities banding together as
regions to make their collective voices heard at both the federal and
provincial levels. Still, he doesn't
believe throwing money at the epidemic will solve the problem. While
he's confident that there's no shortage of money in Ottawa right now,
he says that's not the issue. 'It's very
much a shortage of vision,* he
insists, going on to enlist a success
story from his constituency, about a
woman who began pressing oil
from cedar and has now expanded
her business to employ 20 people.
'Who knew?" he says, making it
clear he's rooting for the httie guy.
He knows communities need the
big mills, but seems more than
ready to throw himself behind
smaller, more dynamic ventures,
like a new consortium of 15 small
woodcutters in the area that want
into the Chinese market.
'I'd much rather have my eggs in
the basket of 200 httie people rather
than a 200 person thing,* he says.
"The table has more than one leg, it
has many.*
It's a different ethic than that of
the mills. Writing by e-mail, Larry
Gardner, RPF and Resource
Development Forestor at West
Fraser Mills in Quesnel, characterises the future of sawmilling in BC as
'survival of the fittest*
'West Fraser plans to be the lowest cost producer/ he says, 'thereby
out-competing our competitors
within BC and abroad.*
There's a certain toughness in
his words, but that sort of resilience
is only half of what's needed,
according to Cullen.
"There's possibly two or three
attitudes [toward the issue]* he says.
'One: real apprehension; don't
know what to do about it Two: head
firmly buried in the sand.*
'We need the third category,
which is concerned and thinking
about the plan, what's next.*
So where will the Interior of this
province be in 15 years?
'If we're smart about it, we'll
be better [off] than we are now,*
he says. II
It's a bug's life
The mountain pine beetle attacks
and kills lodgepole pine trees. It
generally completes its life cycle in
one year. In mid-summer, large
numbers of adult female beetles
attack new trees by boring
through the bark to the sapwood.
They construct vertical galleries in
the phloem between the bark and
the sapwood where, after the
males join them, they mate and
thefemales deposit their eggs.
These eggs hatch into legless
larvae that feed outwards from
the vertical galleries on the
phloem tissue of the host tree.
The beetles introduce a blues-
tain fungus into the sapwood of
the tree that prevents the tree
from repelling and killing the
attacking beetles with pitch flow.
It also blocks water and nutrient
translocation within the tree. The
joint action of larval feeding and
fungal colonization kills the host
tree within a few weeks of successful attack (the fungus and
feeding by the larvae girdles the
tree cutting off the flow of water
and nutrients).
The larvae continue their
development under the bark over
winter, turn into a transformation
stage called pupae next spring,
and finally emerge to fly and
attack new host trees in the summer following the initial attack.
—courtesy of the Pacific
Forestry Centre
(hnp//www.pfc.cfs.nrcan.gcca) THEUBYSSEY  Friday,4November.2005
News/National 9
Globe and Mail University report released
Report does not represent institutions adequately, improvements needed says AMS VP
by Paul Evans and Eric Szeto
The grades are in. The University
Report Card, a supplement making
its fourth appearance in The Globe
and Mail, revealed the results of a
comprehensive survey that rated
Canadian universities on a wide
range of criteria.
UBC ranked well in terms of campus attractiveness and hbrary
resources but earned a low grade for
its financial assistance programs.
Although a sample of 26,000 students all across Canada was surveyed, the criteria that is used to
judge universities are inadequate,
said Alma Mater Society (AMS) VP
Academic Gavin Dew.
"The benchmarks and the metrics that are used to evaluate universities are just plain shoddy,* he said.
Dew suggested that the reputation ranking, which UBC landed an
A- on, was flawed because it was self-
"In some cases, they're literally
harmful because they encourage
these completely skewed perspectives...they contend to perpetuate
just really poor measures of performance,* he said.
The reports are statistically
sound, according to Simon Beck,
the Toronto Editor of The Globe
and Mail.
Beck noted that the impact that
the reports are having on universities has been nothing but encouraging. In some cases, the report has
altered university policies, he added.
*A lot of universities have started
to pay much more attention to student opinions,* he said. *I think it's
had a pretty good impact*
Beck explained that the improvements that have been made over the
past few years have lent the report
more credibility.
One of these methods has been the
growth of the sample of respondents.
"We get more response every
year and more people are
becoming more aware of [the
report] now,* he said.
University officials have been dismissive, however, claiming that this
report is just another survey among
a variety of others.
*I don't think this tells us anything new,* said UBC Public Affairs
Director Scott Macrae, reacting to
the report card. "This is one more
survey. It gives us information but
the University is already moving to
address many of these issues.*
Macrae recalled a recent
Economist magazine   report that
placed UBC in the top 40 among
international research universities
for the third year in a row.
But Macrae said he was surprised by the poor results UBC
received for financial assistance, a
D in both merit-based and needs-
based scholarships—UBC's lowest
'It's surprising—given that UBC
is one of only two universities in
Canada to have a policy that says
that no otherwise qualified domestic student will be prevented from
attending UBC solely for financial
reasons,* he said, referring to the
University's PoHcy 72.
AMS President Spencer Keys suggested, however, that these low
marks can be attributed to poor
implementation of this policy.
'I think the University really
needs to look at how Policy 72 is
being operationalised,* said Keys.
"There's a bit of a tension between
what the policy states and what's
actually happening for students."
In the future, Dew recommends
that university reports like
MacLean's and the Globe and Mail's
adopt measures that encourage the
use of current and effective pedagogical standards.
He feels that if universities cater
to rankings, it may cause universities to act dishonestiy, citing the
2003/2004 MacLean's report where
UBC allegedly manipulated class
sizes to receive better rankings.
'Manipulating class sizes to get
better ratings, that's bad. That
encourages a culture of mediocrity,
trying to teach to ratings.
'Its like teaching to the exam. It's
an extremely poor pedagogy environment for academics,* he said. H
PAULY CARES: Concerned about fish? You should be, says this UBC Prof, yinan max wang photo
by Heather Travis
Transparent glass inside the Aquatic Ecosystems
Research Lab (AERL) provides a window into the
'schools' of fisheries researchers working alongside International Cosmos Prize winner Daniel
Pauly, director of the Fisheries Centre at UBC.
Pauly recently traveled to Osaka, Japan to
receive his award for his work on FishBase, an
online encyclopedia which has catalogued more
than 28,000 fish, and Ecopath software, a program
that models ecosystems. His major research project, referred to as, "The Sea Around Us,* examines
the impact of fishing on marine life within a global perspective by looking at how industrialised
fisheries function.
Pauly, who has been director since 1994, says
that fisheries have modified the way that marine
life is organised, a change that is unduly blamed
on pollution.
"We understand that on land we can't plough
everything under," said Pauly. "But in the sea...we
do not let any of these natural configurations exist.
We modify them all, we plough under everything.*
The impact of the damage to marine configuration has been the focus of Pauly's research, and
also the source of his awards.
His project also looks at data collected by the
United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation
to analyse the food catches of industrialised fisheries in the global market.
"They call it diversifying in this province," said
Pauly. "Instead of [having] the species that were
before abundant...[due to fish mining] they have
been depleted."
Ocean ecology and fish composition has been
adversely affected since the industrial age because
of over-fishing of those who are higher on the food
web, he said.
This in turn affects those lower on the food web
and the marine plant life that are dependent on
each other for sustainability, he added.
Pauly says that the commercial demand for fish
has adjusted itself to what is available.
"Young people start their hves with what is
there and they don't know what was there. This is
called shifting baseline."
So what can we do about this? His advice for students is to get involved.
Pauly advocates for the restructuring of marine
polluted areas and the need to reduce fisheries. He
believes that if students and non-government
organizations (NGO) work together to put pressure
on the provincial and federal governments,
marine composition will take a positive turn.
But don't stop eating fish just yet; Pauly does
not think that regulating your consumption of fish
is the only way to make a difference because the
demand for fish will not decrease.
In its place, alternative markets will pick up the
demand from the fisheries. He beHeves that a commitment to NGOs, such as the World Wildlife Fund,
will naturally lead towards preservation.
For now, Pauly will continue to further his
research and advocacy for marine life, taking a
slightly different look at the fisheries issue.
He is documenting the amount of fuel consumption by fleet boats and the cost of fuel subsidies that are helping to maintain fisheries that are
potentially bankrupt. He intends to release a paper
on global fuel subsidies soon.
"Canadians are not getting as involved with the
fisheries issue," remarked Pauly—as a challenge to
UBC students. Remember: "the government is not
the only social actor." 01
Interview with Ralph
Nader in the big T.O.
by Sarah Barmak
TORONTO (CUP)-Ask any young,
left-leaning, poHtically savvy person what they think about Ralph
Nader, and their answer will probably be a unique blend of reverence
and resentment.
An American activist lawyer and
three-time presidential candidate,
Nader is used to a fight. From going
up against General Motors on car
safety in the sixties—when the mere
concept of wearing a seatbelt was a
joke—to inspiring groups of bright-
eyed government lobbyists-known
as "Nader's Raiders" to advocate for
countless environmental and consumer protection issues, Nader has
left his mark on US poficy for the
last four decades.
In advance of his talk about how
social justice can provide the
answer to chmate change today at
Ryerson University, Nader sat down
with The Varsity to talk about what's
getting him mad right now.
The Varsity: Do you think that
the Canadian government is standing up to Bush and his administration as much as it could be? What
role do you see Canada playing at
the upcoming UN Summit on
Climate Change in Montreal?
Ralph Nader: I don't think
Canada [is standing up to Bush],
and I think part of the reason is
Ralph Klein and Alberta. Your
provincial power is more powerful
than our states in such matters.
You've got to show your independence from the United States, and
say energy's too important for
world peace, too important for the
environment, too important for economic efficiency, to follow the Bush
administration. This is a government marinated in oil.
Ottawa's got to be more assertive.
If Chretien can say no to Bush in the
invasion of Iraq, then everything else
is easier. That's the hardest thing
Canada's ever done.
V: What will happen globally to
the Kyoto Protocol? British PM Tony
Blair recently criticised it, and the
Gleneagles G8 Summit statements
downgraded climate change from, a
"threat* to a "challenge."
RN: Kyoto was designed for failure. It excludes India and China,
and the US has backed off...There
has to be a new imprimatur against
global warming. You start with efficiency for the pocketbook, then
pollution control, then you go to
reduction. People are more concerned about the price of gas than
anything else.
The Varsity: The energy crisis.
What happens when the oil runs out?
Will alternative fuels really be able to
replace the amount of energy the
world is currendy consuming?
Ralph Nader: Yes, but that
depends on a few variables. One is
that as long as the price keeps going
up, the more they find oil that it was
not [previously] economic to drill
for or produce, offshore or onshore.
And that's true for natural gas, too,
and coal. Unfortunately, there are
far more fossil fuels available in the
world than we can environmentally
utilise. So, the problem is not are
we running out, but are we melting
down. If you look at what's going on
in the Arctic and the northern
provinces, it's not theoretical at all.
It's extremely accelerating the melting of the permafrost and ice caps.
The second thing is that as the
price of oil goes up, solar becomes
far more immediately economic.
And of course, it's always been
superior environmentally and also
superior geopofitically, because it
wouldn't get us into wars.
V: Are you planning on running
for president in 2008?
RN: It's too early to tell. But I am
committed to and engaged in a lot
of electoral reform activities, and I
still want to break the two-party
election dictatorship.
V: Do you ever think it might be
more profitable to try to reform
from outside instead of from within
the system, for example, by returning to advocacy and lobbying?
RN: WeU, this is reform from outside, a form of outside. You have to
have a lever, a foothold inside if
you're going to mobifise from outside, because it becomes too
abstract for people just to say electoral reform.
If you put enough pressure from
without [on the process], like more
competitive candidates, it'll start
changing it from within. The only
language they understand is when
they lose votes. M a*i
1Q Opinion/Editorial
^ *—
- , It's your party
but we'll cry president if we want to
Friday,4November,2005  THEUBYSSEY
Dear BUI Clinton,
How's it going? We heard you were
in the Lower Mainland the other
day, but we're poor students and
could not afford the $5,000per
person fee to attend a dinnerparty
with you at a swanky Erwin Drive
house in West Vancouver. Had we
been there however, we would have
given you ihe following message to
pass on to your wife.
Dear Hillary,
So we were skipping class and
watching Ellen the other morning,
and suddenly there you were,
beatific and magnanimous in that
plush club chair, coyly denying any
intention to run for the Oval Office
in 2008. You were trying your best
to make everyone like you, joking
with the lesbian host about potato
chips, trying your best not to look
uncomfortable, sticking to your
script and emphasising the Senate
race in 2006.
Hil', that's bullshit You want the
big chair more that anyone, and
you loved every second of the
standing ovation from the studio
audience as you sidestepped the
awestruck badgering from the host
Basically, you are demonstrably
sane and reasonable, and in the
current poHtical climate that's
unfortunately qualification enough.
Now, don't be walking around
the Clinton hizzy acting like you're
a shoo-in just because you've got
the money and the support of the
party apparatchiks and the
Democratic Leadership Council.
You're a woman and a Clinton and
a lot of people hate you. So we
understand if you've got to reposition yourself and the party at the
poHtical centre, and we'll try to put
up with your newfound conservatism as best we can, even if it
does mean you've got to talk a lot
about "faith-based initiatives" and
getting tough, whether on unwanted pregnancies or those marrying
gays. But just so you don't forget,
we went through a few of your old
pet projects and jotted them down
for you so you don't forget your
proud history of bleeding-heart Hb-
eralism. Tuck it in your pocket and
pretend it's your conscience, so
when you win you can pull it out
and rock the house.
Health Care
In 1998 you followed in the
footsteps of your husband and supported a plan for universal medical
care in the US. Yet, since that time
you have changed your tune and
stated that health care reforms
must be made gradually. Obviously
serious concern needs to be placed
on health care, as there are currently over 41 million people without
health insurance your country.
Currently you are have been
supporting moral and faith based
forms of sexual education in the
hopes of promoting abstinence in
order to reduce the occurrence of
unwanted pregnancies. Since
you're married to Bill, you should
know that people, no matter what
their age, have a hard time keeping
it in their pants. Maybe try teaching
the youth about safe sex.
Gay rights
Your opposition to gay marriage
is cause for concern. How exactly
do you intend to support the civil
union of gay couples—as you say
you want to—without the institution
of marriage?
You advocate looking at the root
causes of terrorism, a considerably
softer stance than the one the current admin is employing, but
important nonetheless.
Border issues
Perhaps a change in immigration poHcy would also be in order.
Is it reaHy necessary to have mili-
tant vigilantes with guns keeping
both Canadians and Mexicans out
of the US?
Post Secondary Education
Hillary please make school
free. Then even we would move to
the States—heck, it'd be much
cheaper than up here. But since
that's not really plausible, it would
be great to implement some of the
post secondary poHcies mentioned
in your previous platforms.
Reducing the financial restraints
on students will allow more individuals to pursue and finish
advanced education. Allowing the
consoHdation of loans in order to
secure lower interest rates would
enable over five million borrowers
to have more flexibiHty.
Additionally, your promise of
increases to the Pell Grant by the
2010-2011 school year would ease
the burden of high tuition costs for
students. Making high education
more accessible to all students,
both young and old increases the
productivity and potential of society as a whole.
—Love, the Ubyssey
Perspective Opinion
The Sponsorship Juggernaut Rolls On
by Gilles-Lauran Grafstrom
Well, in reference to sarcasm, the
excitement of the sponsorship
scandal inquiry continues with
phase one of Judge Gomeiy's final
report Recapping this fiasco, the
sponsorship program—inspired by
The National Unity Agenda under
the Chretien regime, turned into
the sponsorship "scandal." It
became a scandal as a result of
the laundering of the program's
financial account. The sponsor-
ship inquiry headed by Judge J.
Gomeiy has been in operation to
pubHcly investigate the matter,
finaHse a report, and make recommendations. For democracy, it's a
good thing.
A major development in April
2005 had Judge Gomery partially
lifting a media ban on damaging
testimony by former Groupaction
Marketing Inc head Jean Brault
Testimony given by Brault has in
no way lightened the dirty laundry
of the scandal and has been the
paramount thus far in developments. It has bombarded the
inquiry with information of monetary transactions between
Groupaction Inc and Quebec
Liberal bureaucrats, among other
people and agencies. This story is
clustered with fine details.
Part of the government's goal
with the inquiry, aside from trying
to salvage the scraps of money
they disposed to people like
Brault, is to demonstrate a desire
for self-accountabiHty. What
they've failed to realise in advance
is the lack of help it has done for
PR. With the addition of Brault's
testimony, the inquiry temporarily
served to drive a transposition of
poHtical popularity between the
right and center. Over time,
Canadians, particularly in Ontario
decided they didn't like the right
and reverted back to centre.
I'm dizzy already, but beyond
that, and to put it in accurate Hterature, the Conservative Party only
gained temporary points. The
scheduling of parHamentary tea
parties et cetera by the Liberals has
done good damage control.
Depending on what your poHtics are, this could be either good
news or bad.
A lot of people including myself
will agree that fraud alone should
not be exalted. People should
always expect honesty from their
government Unfavorable as it is to
the Canadian student body, this
charade managed to work in favor
of the right wing Conservatives.
Not that I condone Jean
Chretien, but he would have been
better qualified a leader to handle
the situation, as he would have
done so head-on and with professional astute. At this point, fuck any
notion of elegant convention. Ill
put it to you this way; Paul Martin
exudes moderately different quaH-
ties as PM than Chretien, and he
has in no way shown mental
strength in handling the sponsorship scandal onslaught. The fact
that he was a top member of government during the Chretien
regime damaged his profile immediately after he took the leadership
reigns. Chretien does bear partial
responsibility for this mess but the
onus is on every member of the
Liberal Party who condoned The
National Unity program/Sponsorship. It failed. The insulting part
about this is that government
resource and energy surrounding
the whole sponsorship program
was wasted when it could have and
should be spent on pressing social
issues such as education, tax cuts
and the environment
The pubHc battery and forced
ousting of Chretien may have been
a perceived solution to squander
the stink sponsorship erected unto
the Party. But when it all boils
down, speaking only in the spirit of
limiting sponsorship damage,
Chretien's poHtical professionaHsm
and strength may have dealt with
this more efficiently.
In the world of business, it's
always healthy to set standards.
Those standards were recognized
as a result of conspicuous minutiae
in The Sponsorship Scandal, and
most likely it was only after Sheila
Fibble's audit report that a vast
amount of MP's from aH parties
including Liberal, learned of the
illegal activity that The National
Unity Agenda brought forth. For PR
sake, the Liberals feel it within harmony to have the Gomery Inquiry
impugn those that were closest to
them at one point
In conclusion, The Sponsorship
Program had nothing to do with
the Canadian student body. The
havoc created by this involves a
few bureaucrats and an ensemble
of firms. In Hght of the Judicial
expose, the Libs shouldn't expect
the Canadian student body to pardon their behavior given their 8 +
bilHon dollar budget surplus per
year combined with the unHvable
high tuition rates students face.
—Gilles-Lauran Grafstrom is an
arts and science student at
Douglas College
Ubyssey edit degenerates
into random bullshit
I normally read the Ubyssey to try
and keep myself well informed on
campus issues and usually enjoy
the weU-written opinions of the
Ubyssey s writers, so I was quite
surprised to find the editorial in the
Oct 25 edition of the Ubyssey
degenerate into random bullshit
Was there really nothing that happened in the past few days that you
felt the need to comment on?
There are about a dozen papers
on campus which regularly turn out
stuff like this and the Ubysseyis
one of the few that actually takes
itself seriously and reports news
and opinions. Now, it's not that I
have anything against this kind of
thing, it can be fun and humourous,
I'm just saying that it has its place.
the Ubysseyputs out its own satire
paper at April Fools and I'm sure
the other campus papers are always
looking for submissions. With its
large readership, the Ubysseyhas a
unique opportunity to keep students informed about important
campus issues, as many students
probably rely on it as their sole
source for UBC news.
I hesitate to say it, but with this
opportunity also comes the responsibiHty to not just churn out a paper
twice a week because that's what's
supposed to happen, but to produce
a paper that provides valuable
insight on campus issues.
I'm sorry to be a stick in the
mud, I realise sometimes deadHnes
can be short and we all have a lot
going on, but I just wanted to let
you know that someone out there
cares (about the quaHty of the
paper, not about you).
—Jordan Soet
4th Year Computer Engineering
What are some key
issues that national
leaders should focus
"Peace building initiatives in failed
or fragile states...global security
depends on it.*
—Rich Stevenson
Electrical Engineering Alumnus
"Developing environmental sus-
tainabiHty and making trade fair
for developing countries.*
—Anneke Ruedebusch
Oxfam Intern
"Poverty, drug use and abuse, and
sexual assault"
—Kate Butler
Theatre 4
"I Hve in a student bubble. I don't
care what the rest of the world
—Kyra Berg
BioChem 3
"I'd have to say international relations to prevent the unilateral
action that happens in the world."
—Andrew Brentano
—Streeters coordinated by
Carolynne Burkholder
and Yinan Max Wang THE UBYSSEY   Friday, 4 November, 2005
Sports \\
Stinger Jason Manzano and his hazing experience
by Jay Joshua Turnbull
MONTREAL (CUP)-The categoiy-five
media storm that has been swirling
around the McGill campus since the
football team's rookie initiation ritual
became pubHc has almost run out of
wind. The player at the centre of the
storm has hightailed it from the U
niversity after dropping out last week
(he is stiU considering legal action),
and suspended Redmen players were
back on the field.
After the team's win over St FX,
Redmen coach Chuck McMann
claimed that the struggles his team
faced since the "Dr Broom* story surfaced have helped his players bond.
Isn't that what hazing rituals are
meant to achieve in the first place, a
feeling of togetherness?
"Dr Broom" damages McGill's
On October 18 McGiU University
officially announced the canceUation
of the rest of their football season
after an investigation into a basing
incident A player alleges that he was
sexually assaulted with a broomstick
during a Rookie initiation night
There have been conflicting reports
surrounding the hazing. Was there
penetration, or wasn't there? Who
was involved? Were the coaches in
the know and did they do enough to
prevent it? Rookie initiations have
been taking place for centuries and
the popular opinion seems to be that
an age-old McGill ritual to create
team bonding went a bit too far—
about three inches too far according
to some media outlets.
Stinger defensive end Jason
Manzano transferred to Concordia
for the 2005 season after spending
four seasons at McGill. He had his
own run-in with "Dr Broom* during
his rookie campaign with the
Redmen and said the details have
been blown out of proportion.
*I find it pretty hard to beHeve that
they did those things. What [the
media is] saying and describing, it
isn't what happens. They poke you on
the  cheek [with the broomstick],
that's it" Manzano said.
Manzano doubted the players
would have taken the hazing as far as
has been suggested because the veterans impHcated in the incident didn't have to endure anything as severe
when they were rookies.
"Maybe these guys took it a Httie
too far but there's no justification for
them to do it so I don't think it happened. If they did, then I have no
remorse for [the suspended players]," he said.
True or not, the ramifications
might become evident in McGiH's
future on-the-field product
"It might hurt their recruitment,"
Manzano explained. "As a parent, if
you've read this, do you really want
your 18 or 19-year-old kid to come to
this atmosphere? I don't think I
would want my kids to go there."
No Dr Broom at Concordia
According to both Manzano and
Stingers head coach Gerry
McGrath, Concordia rookies don't
face anything like what's been
described at McGill.
"We have rookie night at the
end of training camp where they
will put on a skit and usually make
fun of the coaches. The rookie
coaches and therapists have to do
it, as well," McGrath explained.
"[The rookies] sing a song at
lunch time in training camp,
which I like to see because if he
has to play in front of 20,000 people at Laval he should be able to
sing a song in front of his teammates," McGrath continued.
There are practical jokes that
rookies have to endure on almost
every sports team and the Stingers
are not an exception, but players
finding mashed potatoes in their
helmets or finding their equipment temporarily stolen is a far
cry from sodomy.
McGrath was emphatic when
discussing how far he will let his
players take an initiation.
"At Concordia the policy is
quite simple—there is no hazing.
In my 14 years here I've never witnessed or heard of an event where
a rookie was asked to do some
thing that was demeaning or
against his will," said McGrath,
adding that he's fortunate that his
core group of veterans try to make
newcomers feel at home.
"When a young man comes to
Concordia he's one of our team
members. He's not someone to be
beHttled or picked on and we certainly would not tolerate it,"
McGrath continued.
Like Manzano, McGrath was
surprised to hear about the hazing
at McGill.
"Chuck McMann is a great guy.
He certainly would not condone that
and I'm sure had he known something like that was taking place he
would have stopped it before it even
got started," said McGrath, stressing
that he only knows what he has read
in the newspapers.
Manzano said the media atten-
tion hurts more than just McGill.
"It's unfortunate because aU universities wiU be under a microscope, and it's especially unfair to
Concordia because we don't do anything wrong," he said. II
Going for three
The UBC women's field hockey team
tries for their third straight CIS
national championship tide this
weekend. UBC takes on Toronto at
9:30am today, and plays against
Guelph at 3:30pm. On Saturday UBC
plays Alberta at 12:00pm. The final
games will be played on Sunday. AU
games take place at Wright Field.
Football Canada West Playoffs
The UBC Thunderbirds are looking
for a victory against the Saskatchewan Huskies this weekend, as
the footbaU teams battle it out at
the Canada West semifinals in
Saskatoon. UBC hasn't won a playoff
game since 1999 when they beat
Calgary during the Canada West
Soccer playoff weekend
The men's soccer team wiU be in
Langley this weekend at Trinity
Western University for the Canada
West   Playoffs.   Alberta,    Calgary,
Trinity Western and UBC are aU in
the hunt for the title. Today UBC plays
against Calgary. The last time the
Thunderbirds qualified for nationals
was in 2001.
The women's soccer team is also
facing Canada West Playoff action
this weekend. The T-Birds wiU be in
Calgary along with UVic, Alberta and
Trinity Western. UBC won the national championships in both 2003 and
2004. There are two Canada West
berths at stake, as weU as University
of Calgary's host spot
T-Birds make a splash
Today and Saturday the UBC Aquatic
Centre wiU host the Thunderbird
Cup. This is now a long course
(50m) event in order to prepare
competitors for the Commonwealth
Games. The Commonwealth Games
take place in Melbourne, Austrafia
March 15-26. II
2006 AIMS Executive Nominations
Info Sessions
Think you've got what it takes to be an AMS Executive?
Find out what you need to do to run in the AMS elections.
November 8th, from 7:15 pm
in the CG Lounge Henry Angus Building
November 24th, from 5:30 pm
in the AMS Council Chambers, Rm 206, Student Union
Get Informed and Vote! Civic Elections 2005
The Alma Mater Society of UBC wants to provide you with information about the 2005
Civic Elections. Check out some of our events to help you learn more about civic issues,
and to get information about how to vote!
ELECTION FORUM - Electoral Area A Director
Monday, November 7th - SUB Conversation Pit, 12pm
Do you live at UBC? Come out to hear how the candidates running for
Electoral Area A Director want to represent you to the GVRD Board.
peel free to come out and get answers to those burning questions you have!
MEET & GREET - City of Vancouver Candidates
Tuesday, November 8th - SUB Gallery Lounge, 6pm-9pm
Want to meet the candidates running in the 2005 City of Vancouver Election? We'll
provide the free food, and you can come out to socialize and chat with the candidates.
Blue Chip Cookies - Your Coffee Shop
Ethical, Affordable and Good
Craving something sweet? Try Blue Chip Cookies, located on the main concourse
of the Student Union Building. Everything here is made not only with fresh
ingredients, but also with love! In addition to an amazing assortment of cookies,
you can indulge in olive buns with flavoured cheese filling, incredible cinnamon
buns of the other kind, and delicious fruit buns and fruit squares. Any one of these
items would make an ideal breakfast on the run or afternoon pick-me-up.
Last year, like all AMS Food
& Beverage outlets, Blue Chip
switched over to 100% Fair
Trade coffee. Please try all
your regular,favourite coffees
and specialty coffees, using
organic, shade-grown, Fair
Trade beans. Did also you
know that if you bring your
own mug to Blue Chip, you
will save 25 cents vs. using
a disposable cup?
The AMS Food and Beverage
department employs approximately 275 students and spends more than $1M in
student wages. Like all AMS businesses, the department is not only 100% self-
supporting, but it actually contributes 100% of its net profit back into your student
.*£•; r
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BALLBREAKERS: The UBC women's team demonstrates that the soccer pitch is the site of fierce competition, yinan max wang photo
T-Birds shut out Lethbridge Pronghorns in sixth consecutive win
by Lindsay Ford
The UBC women's soccer team
took on the only team they hadn't
yet defeated this season on
Saturday at Wolf son Field. The last
time the T-Birds played the
Lethbridge Pronghorns was the
only game this year that UBC did
not score any goals. Although the
Pronghorns played a solid game
on Saturday, the T-Birds were one
step ahead to defeat their evenly
matched rivals 1-0.
Saturday's win gave the T-Birds
their sixth consecutive win and
shutout, for a total of 23 goals
scored in their last six games. The
T-Birds have not been scored upon
in their last six games which has
paid off for the Thunderbirds who
currently sit in first place in the
western division.
Although the T-Birds had a few
scoring opportunities in the first
half, the game remained scoreless.
Midfielder, Ariane WilHams created a near goal with a nice cross at
the net from a corner kick. UBC
point leader. Heather Smith, just
missed the top of the net, with a
shot from the eighteen yard box.
Defender, Anja Sigloch played a
star performance with her head on
several balls that threatened to
enter the T-Bird zone. Goal keeper,
Hannah Shoichet, remained active
by coming out of the T-Bird net to
help make some passes back up
the field.
The second half of the game
was played with fresh legs, as
Coach Mosher made several player changes, sending out forward
Katie McRae who headed the ball
into the back of the Lethdbridge
net off an on-net cross from
Bonnie Glover.
The T-Bird's chances continued,
with a solo attempt by Chelsea
Hampton who took the baH into
Pronghorn territory all alone, for
another dose scoring opportunity.
*We definitely stepped it up in
the second,* noted Shoichet after
the game.
"It felt good to beat the only
team we couldn't all season,* commented McRae on the T-Bird
The women's soccer team won
the CIS championships in 2002
and 2003, and is hoping to bring
home another title this year. H
Civic Elections 2005
The Alma Mater Society of UBC wants to provide you with information about the 2005 Civic
Elections. Check out some of our events to help you learn more about civic issues, and to get
information about how to vote!
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