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The Ubyssey Oct 10, 2001

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DETERMINED: Protesters say that rallies must be held until Prime Minister Jean Chretien
withdraws military support for US-led attacks on Afghanistan, nic fensom photo
        by Al Lin Choo
"Silly" and "unacceptable" were the two
words used most frequently last night at a
demonstration at the Vancouver Art
Gallery (VAG) to describe US attacks on
About 400 people crowded around the
front steps of the VAG to listen and lend
support to speakers who asked for
increased attention to human rights, justice and peace in the South Asian state.
"We want to take the Canadian and
American flags and remove them because
they are being used as blindfolds and
being used as gagsl" shouted Garth
Mullins, a member of the Mobilisation
against War and Racism (MAWR), the
group that organised the event "And we
will not be blindfolded, and we will not be
silenced with patriotism. We will build a
movement that stops this war."
Mullins criticised Prime Minister Jean
Chretien's decision to back the US with
military support, and emphasised that
peace rallies should not stop until Chretien
realises that continuing the war is
"They haven't been able to find Osama
bin Laden for three years, and is carpet-
bombing Afghanistan going to be able to
do any different?" he asked the crowd. "No.
Cruise missiles will not bring justice and
an end to terrorism. Carpet-bombing will
not bring justice and an end to terrorism."
"We see a war at home in Canada that
blames immigrants and refugees here, a
war that stigma[tises] people of colour, and
a racist backlash with mosques burning,"
he said.
Mwalu Jan Peeters-Kasengeneke, a
member of the Alma Mater Society (AMS)
resource group Colour Connected and a
speaker at the UBC peace rally held last
week, said last night that it is essential to
remind people of the devastating effects
of war.
"I think most of lis have been to enough
rallies to know that just showing our dissent in this way is not much more than a
symbolic gesture," he said. "But I think by
hopefully having events like this and raising consciousness, by having people that
might not already necessarily be against
the war, by showing them that there is
broad-based opposition, hopefully [that
will] get more people to question Canada's
While about ten speakers went up to the
microphone to voice opposition to US military action, many others shared their
opinions by distributing flyers and carrying signboards. One young girl in the
crowd wore a sign over her dress that said:
"I am a Muslim. I am human. I am not a
Abeer Majeed, a fourth-year Science
student said that she feels alternatives to
war are still not being discussed enough
and said that she hopes open discussions
will be better facilitated by raising public
"I think [rallies have] made quite a bit of
a difference already in a sense that as a
Muslim myself, it's given me a lot of support that there are Canadians out there
who don't believe in racism and are standing up to it," she said. "I mean there's a
wide spectrum of Canadians here: there
. are families, seniors and parents
with children."
Majeed said that in her opinion, pro-
Taliban demonstrations worldwide are
only occurring because "innocent people
will be killed in the attack and...people are
rightiy outraged."
While some speakers called for stronger
anti war sentiment from Canadian citizens,
others accused US military strikes of carrying out a hidden agenda.
Nasim Sedaghat, a former prisoner in
Iran, accused the US of disregarding international law, saying that the aim of US military action was to 'terrorise people of the
former colonial countries" where "either
you do as [Americans] say or you get
1 She applauded Sunera Thobani, a UBC
assistant professor whose controversial
remarks on US foreign policy sparked a
nation-wide furor last week. She also said
that she feels US interests in Afghanistan
are far from humanitarian and are targeted towards controlling the large amounts
of oil and natural gas lying near the
Caspian' Sea.
See "Rally" on page 2.
AMS bylaw could      students to 'die' In the name of peace
keep contracts secret _
fay Mia Christensen
by Sarah MacNeiil Morrison
A policy that would allow the Alma
Mater Society (AMS) to keep some of
its records secret from students is
one controversial proposed change
that the student society may make to
its bylaws this faLL
Currently, AMS Bylaw 18 permits any student who is an AMS
member to inspect the books and
records of the society between
10am and 3pm on a school day.
The AMS hopes to change Bylaw
18 to allow the student society to
keep certain information confidential, including documents containing personal information, draft recommendations or policies not yet
implemented, and information
which, if revealed, could compromise the security of the SUB or of a
computer system-
More controversially, the AMS
also wants to keep confidential any
information which, if revealed,
could harm negotiations between
the AMS and third parties, or which
could harm the competitive position
or financial interests of third parties. The change could also allow the
student society to keep secret some
information protected from disclosure by law or any contract involving the AMS.
But some Council members,
such as Arts representative Rob
Nagai, say that the AMS should
remain inore open to, its members.
Nagai said that students should be
able to see what kind of job the AMS
is doing on their behalf, and what
they are working on.
"Otherwise it would simply be,
we could sign onto a contract and
See "Bylaws" on page 2.
A group of UBC students will be staging a 'die-in' in the Student Union
Building tomorrow as part of a
peacefrd protest against the recent
US-led attacks on Afghanistan,
Students involved in a variety of
organisations, such as the Social'
Justice Centre (SJC) and
Mobilisation Against War and
Racism at UBC, as well as individuals who are against the recent US-
led retaliation against' Afghanistan,
will be uniting to educate fellow
UBC students on the issues surrounding the terrorism and violence that has occupied the attention of media and people from
around the world since the attacks
on September 11. .
Lynda Dechie£ a UBC graduate
student in health care and epidemiology, is the head organiser
for both tomorrow's 'die-in and a
similar event to be staged in downtown Vancouver today.
The idea to hold the die-in came
on Sunday, after an emergency
peace rally in response to the air
strikes on Afghanistan, was held at
the Vancouver Art Gallery (VAG).
Dechief said she and some friends
went for dinner afterwards and
decided they wanted to stage an
A die-in seemed the right way
to raise awareness of the issues,
according to Dechief. She had
heard of die-ins before" and
thought they were "elegant powerful way[s] to communicate with
people without using words."
"It's a really simple concept A
group of people 'die' all at the same
time, in the same location, and
passers-by have no choice but to
wa&'around or over the people. It's
a very up front kind of direct
symbolism/ she said
Kim Hendess, a former UBC student and an organiser for today's
die-in downtown, said the die-in
concept allows protestors to reach
a wider variety of people than at an
organised rally.
"We were at the rally on Sunday
and thought there's got to be
something more we can do. We're
preaching to the converted, we
need to get this message across to
people who aren't coming out to
events like peace rallies/ she said,
adding that a 'die-in' is an effective,
cheap and memorable way to put
out a peaceful message.
"Even if people passing by don't
stop and talk to us, they, will still
remember it/ Hendess added.
Mia Amir, a second-year Arts
student and financial coordinator
at the SJC, said the die-in will "help
educate people on what's happen-
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Demonstrators say rallies must continue
"Rally" continued from page 1.
'Recently, a woman, a woman who we should all be
proud of, you all know who I am talking about—yes,
Sunera Thobani—said that from Chile to El Salvador to
Nicaragua to Iraq, the path of US foreign policy is soaked
in blood. I'm asking you, with this kind of record, do you
believe that the United States is pursuing justice in
Afghanistan?" Sedaghat asked. The mention of Thobani's
name elicited a loud response of cjheers from the crowd.
Gulalai Habib, a councillor with the Afghanistan
Women's Network who came to Canada after working
at a refugee camp in Pakistan two years ago, also dismissed US statements that military attacks on the
Taliban will help secure the rights of Afghan women.
'I think before the Taliban, with the Northern Alliance
who are now being assisted by USA, women had difficulties and were suffering a lot" she said. "So I could not say
which one is better than the other one. There were lots of
cases of rape or of women who were tortured [before].
There were lots of cases of all this."
While most people passing the rally stopped to listen
to the speeches, others stopped to argue that war was
essential to secure justice and revenge for lives lost in
the September 11 terrorist attacks in New York and
Washington, DC. People handing out flyers to pedestrians were also targets of verbal abuse as passers-by
called them "assholes' or "bastards."
Organisers from the MAWR said mat demonstrations' will not stop with last night's rally at the VAG.
AMS bylaws under question
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UNJUST: US strikes will only serve to kill innocent
people, say demonstrators, nic fensom photo
They will be hosting a public organisational meeting
at 5pm today in the SUB. ♦
"Bylaws" continued from page 1.
say 'Okay, it's a good contract trust us/
and I don't believe in that' he said.
"It's about democracy. The bylaws
themselves are something meant to
protect democracy," he said, "and I
think that's what's happening here.
It's being used to protect third parties,
which is not what we're about We're
there to protect students."
The AMS has not made any major
changes to its bylaws since 1981.
After spending several months in
committees, the proposed revisions
to the bylaws will come before the
AMS Council tonight where councillors will debate the changes, and are
expected to vote on them. If the
bylaws are approved by Council, a student referendum to pass the changes
can take place as early as this fall.
The AMS's bylaws are the society's
entrenched laws, which are supposed
to represent the interests of the students, the AMS's membership at
large. Bylaws can only be changed at
an AMS annual general meeting
attended by 3800 students, or by a referendum which meets quorum—ten
per cent of undergraduate students.
'[The bylaws are] designed to be
difficult to change/ said AMS Senate
representative Chris Eaton, chair of
the AMS Code and Policies
Committee. "The bylaws are the will
of the membership. They're how
Council and how the AMS operates."
AMS Vice-President, External
Kristen Harvey, who sits on the student society's Code and Policies
Committee, said that the decision to
Dying for peace
"Die-in" continued from page /.
ing with the violent actions against Afghanistan and
encourage people to start questioning whether this is
appropriate or if it's just another terrorist tactic itself."
The theme of death woven through the event Amir
added, is there "to remember people who have already
died, and people whose lives will be taken in the violence
going on in Afghanistan and surrounding areas right
This cycle of violence, both Amir and Dechief said, is
something people need to question and they hope the
die-in will encourage that
'I've heard a lot of people saying that we don't have a
choice. And certainly this thinking has been expressed
by Bush and Blair, you know, the idea that you're either
against terrorism or you're with it That's just saying that
you either agree with violence, or you agree with vio-
update Bylaw 18 came after the AMS
was asked to disclose information
about a confidential contract between
the AMS, UBC and Coca-Cola which
was signed in 1995.
"We found that we were in a situation where, either way, we were
breaking some kind of obligation—
either the bylaws or the contract In
order to address that situation we
decided to include these [changes],'
she said.
A Freedom of Information (FOI)
request to unseal the Coke deal was
filed by Ubyssey reporter Stanley
Tromp in 1995, but was rejected by
former BC Information Privacy
Commissioner David Flaherty. The
case was then taken to the Supreme
Court by Tromp, where Flaherty's
decision was overturned because of
an improper hearing. In 1999, another FOI request was filed by then-
Ubyssey (kx>rdinating Editor Bruce
Arthur, and Commissioner David
Loukidelis took charge of re-evaluating the case.
In May of this year, Loukidelis
ordered the release of the details of
the contract after ruling that the university and Coke did not supply proof
that they would be harmed by revealing the contract's details.
But regardless of whether.any
party would be hurt by the contract's
unsealing, by not revealing the terms
of the agreement ihe AMS was not
following its own bylaws.
Technically the AMS was in violation of Bylaw 18 when they refused to
release information,* said Eaton.
Eaton said that while he doesn't
approve of the AMS making confidential agreements, he thinks that many
of the proposed changes to the
bylaw—changes which would ensure
that the AMS could keep computer
security codes and personnel documents confidential—are necessary.
"But whether or not the society
should be able to engage in confidentiality contracts is a philosophical decision that is Council's duty to
decide," he said. 'And once Council
decides, it's up to the^membership,
because these bylaws cannot just be
passed by Council; they are for the
membership to consider in
The confidential Coke contract was
not the only instance of the AMS
refusing to reveal details of its business dealings. Last year, the student
society refused to disclose how much
it had paid to have performers Edwin
and Chris Sheppard play at First
Week, UBC's week-long orientation
"It's an entertainment industry
standard. Performers work in a
competitive business," said then-
AMS President Maryann Adamec at
the time.
Other major changes proposed
to the AMS bylaws that Council will
address at tonight's meeting
include moving the turnover date
for the AMS executive from
February to May 1; giving Student
Court more power to fix ambiguous
referendum questions; and
entrenching a code that gives the
AMS executive more power to establish rules and regulations. ♦
lence—there is no choice, in reality—there isn't a recognition of other, non-violent options here," Dechief said.
Dechief also stressed that actions like the die-in are
needed to express the importance of civil freedoms. If
there was ever a time for Canadians to embrace their
democracy, she said, the time is now.
"When the attacks on September 11th happened, a lot
of the media coverage and government officials talked
about how it was an attack on democracy. We do apparently live in a democracy and that means that what we
want should be represented here," she said.
'I just want to encourage people, if they disagree with
what their government is doing in Aighanistan on their
behalf, then they need to speak out against it"
Today's die-in will be held in the downtown core.
People wishing to participate will be meeting at the VAG
at noon. Tomorrow's die-in will be taking place in the
SUB main concourse from 12:30 pm until 1pm. ♦ THEUBYSSEY
Human rights still a hot t
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2001     3
 by Joslyn Oosenbrug
While China's capital city begins
preparations for the country's first
Olympic games, debate continues
to rage around the decision itself,
and the impact it could have on
human rights.
"More than 90 per cent of the
Chinese people support Beijing's
bid, because they believe it will help
improve their quality of life," said
Liu Qt Beijing's mayor, in response.
to the July 14, 2001 decision by the
International Olympic Committee
(IOC) to award the 2008 Olympic
games to Beijing.
"It will help promote our economic and social policies and will
further help develop our human
rights cause."
Many feel, however, that human
rights improvements are not on
China's agenda and that hosting
the Olympics is more a way of gaining acceptance within the international community for a history
tainted by repression and human
rights violations.
"China wanted these Olympics so
badly because they see this as an
international stamp of approval of
their continued occupation of
Tibet" said Kate Woznow, president
of the UBC chapter of Students for a
Free Tibet (SFT), who was arrested
in Beijing last February for protesting China's occupation of Tibet.
Woznow is concerned that the
victory will encourage a continued
repression of Tibetans. China has
occupied Tibet since 1950, when
Chinese troops invaded the country, eventually overthrowing the
Tibetan government in 1959.
Millions of Tibetans have been
killed under the current regime.
Woznow feels that by awarding
the Olympics to China, the
International Olympic Committee
(IOC) is sending the message that
human rights issues can be ignored.
"The IOC has been saying all
along that this isn't a human rights
issue, but it is," she said.
In a report released by the IOC's
evaluation committee in May, the
decision to hold the games in Beijing
was supported by the belief that the
"Beijing games would leave a unique
legacy to China and to sport"
"We are totally aware at the IOC
there is one issue at the table, and
that is human rights," wrote IOC
director general Francois Carrard.
"Human rights is a very serious
issue in the entire world. It is not up
to the IOC to interfere in this issue.
But we are taking the bet that seven
years from now, we sincerely and
dearly hope we will see many
changes [in China]."
But Alex Neve, Canadian secretary-general for Amnesty
International, said that the IOC
should have taken China's human
rights record into proper consideration.
'In making a decision, it was our
strong recommendation to them
that they make the question of
human rights a matter of para
mount concern."
"Human rights should be a central criterion] in anything," said
Neve. "The Olympics are a question
of the international community
engaging with another country, and
in any engagement of that sort,
human rights shouldn't only be
given token consideration."
Michael Duke, a UBC professor
of Asian studies, said that the IOC
made the right decision based on
the criteria, but argued that hosting
the Olympics will not change
China's approach to human rights.
"I really don't think that the
Chinese position on human rights
will change one way or the other
simply because of the Olympics,"
he said. "I don't think that they're
going to stop cracking down on the
Falun Gong people, for example,
because of the Olympics. They will
try to make it seem like they are
doing things better and better, and
to some extent they will," said
Duke, "but then they will also lock
up a lot of people before the
Olympics so that those people
won't be around to make any trouble on the world stage."
Both Neve and Woznow also
fear that the international attention
that China expects to receive during the Olympics will result in the
harsh treatment of protesters who
plan to demonstrate or publicly
voice their opposition to the country's human rights practices.
"China could decide to mount
some sort of brutal crackdown, as it
CHINA? Kate Woznow went to Beijing last year, but doesn't think
the Olympics should go. ubyssey file photo/tara westover
has in the past with respect to Falun
Gong practitioners, or pro-democracy activists in an effort to keep them
off the streets and curtail their right
to protest* said Neve.
But Woznow also feels that such
action could be an opportunity to
bring such issues to the forefront of
public consciousness.
"Within the Tibetan movement
the 2008 Olympics are seen as a key
turning point" she said. "With all the
attention that's on China right now
because of the Olympics, there are a
lot of things we can do [as activists]."
"China is going to make some
mistakes along the way, and we
have to be ready to exploit any [bad]
decisions/ she said.
Neve says that it is also up to
the IOC to pressure China to
change their approach to human
"It would be our hope that the
IOC would seek to use this experience as an opportunity to promote
human rights reform in China/ he
said. "The IOC needs to be doing
everything possible to ensure that
the Olympics don't lead to human
rights violations, [but rather] to
human rights improvements." ♦
Software controversial Canada and pollution
by Justin Cheung
A software program that allows professors to
check the originality of their students' papers is
generating concern among students over its introduction at UBC.
Turnitin.com, a program developed in the US
to combat plagiarism in universities and colleges,
allows professors and markers to upload essays
online, where they will be compared with written
material available on the Internet and then given
a number ranging from one to ten based on their
This year, the MBA program in UBC's Faculty
of Commerce is considering using the software,
prompting concerns about how students may be
affected by it.
Erfan Kazemi, president of the Alma Mater
Society (AMS), questioned the need for the software and said that he feels UBC needs to ensure
that students are aware of its policies regarding
Kazemi said that many students have not been
fully trained to understand plagiarism, and that the
university needs to do a better job of educating students on the proper use of citations and its overall
policies on plagiarism.
"I don't think a lot of people realise what plagiarism is. I think that UBC should concentrate its
effort on that front," he said.
At a recent AMS council meeting, Kazemi suggested UBC offer a course for first-years to give
them an idea of the full scope of what plagiarism
Paul Chwelos, an associate professor who
teaches in UBC's MBA program, is considering
usingv Turnitin.com in his class. He used the program as an assistant professor at the University of
California, and sees it as a "preventive measure to
preserve the academic integrity of the educational process."
"I think [Turnitin.com] is a useful tool when it
is used in a preventive way, simply to ensure that
all students are judged by the same standards," he
said. -   •
Kazemi worried that professors might rely on
Turnitin.com as the final word on whether or not
students have plagiarised.
"Is this software, which hasn't been implemented yet, is its word final and at a scale
between one to five. What's a three? Is three a reason for alarm? Is that common? There's all these
questions/ he said.
But Chwelos said that "the number is just a
guideline" and that the final decision on whether
a student has plagiarised is based on the discretion and judgement of the professor.
Melissa Lipscomb, vice-president of business
affairs at iParadigms, the company which developed Turnitin.com, agreed.
In an e-mail, she wrote mat the final analysis
should remain in the hands of the person grading
a paper.
Lipscomb wrote that by ensuring that students
who go through a course have little chance of
cheating, the software can actually increase the
value of a student's degree.
"Turnitin.com provides a tool for instructors to
use in order to increase the value of a student's education," she wrote. "The majority of students do not
cheat and their efforts are undermined by those who
do. This is the strongest validation that your instructor cares about academic integrity and should not be
interpreted as anything other than that concern.*
Chwelos said that the major objective of the
software is deterrence and prevention, and that
when he used the software in the past, he
informed students at the beginning of the class to
prevent them from plagiarising in the first place.
But student Paul Dagenais said that some students in his class—where the software may be
used—felt that the program's use targeted students who may never have considered cheating.
"The general feeling in our class was it implied
that we were guilty of it before it actually [was]
done, before we actually plagiarised something,"
he said. "So the overall sentiment was somewhat
negative towards the idea of instituting the plagiarism software/
UBC student Karin Jenson said she believed
that Turnitin.com will discourage students from
taking the easy way out
"I think it's a good idea because it restores the
integrity of students to do the assignments and it
forces us to come up with a higher level of assignment and essay," she said.
Executive Coordinator for the Vice-President of
Students Byron Hender said that UBC will allow
professors to use the Turnitin.com software as a
part of a variety of means to combat plagiarism. ♦
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Office of the Coordinator of Health Sciences
Interprofessional Activities in the Health & Human Service Programs
Council of Health & Human Service Programs
The McCreary Prize was developed to recognize and therefore promote
interprofessional teamwork in the health professions. This prize is
awarded annually to a group involved in the provision of health care in
B.C. The activities that form the basis for the selection of this team will
demonstrate the cooperation and creative teamwork of three or more
health care disciplines in an innovative manner leading to improved
patient care.
For further information, please call the Office of the Coordinator of
Health Sciences at (604) 822-5571 '<
Live and Teach in Japan!
The Japan Exchange and Teaching Programme
Free Information Session
Thursday, October 11 - 12:30 pm to 2:00 pm
Asian Centre Auditorium
Tuesday, October 23 - 12:30 pm to 2:00 pm
8226, Buchanan Building
The Government of Japan invites university graduates to
participate as Assistant English Teachers or Coordinators of"
International Relations in a one-year, cultural exchange
programme beginning July 2002.
Applicants must be a Canadian citizen, have a Bachelor's
degree by July 2002, and be under the age of 40.
Application forms available from:
UBC Career Services
Consulate General of Japan/Tel: (604) 684-5868, ext 223
Deadline: Postmarked by November 23, 2001
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The Grapevine does not prescreen callers and assumes no liability if you meet callers.
Calters must be.18+. Free local call within N&ncouver calling area. 'Conditions apply.
UBC doesn't go the distance
New Canadian Virtual University opens new possiblities for distance education
Heather Fischer
While UBC distance education courses will be offered
by the recently created Canadian Virtual University
(CVU), UBC will not become a member of the program because of concerns over the accreditation of
courses from other participating universities.
According to Mark Bullen, acting director of
UBC's distance education and technology depart;
ment, there was no advantage for UBC in becoming
a member of CVU.
"Members of CVU are
agreeing to accept each other's
credits," Bullen explained,
"UBC might have a hard time
accepting credits from some of
these institutions."
The CVU unites online
courses available from 13
chartered Canadian universities onto one website. The
combined offerings add up
to about 2000 courses and
200 diplomas, degrees or
certificates. This catalogue
offers Canadians and others many online learning
options on a central website, and minimises non-
tuition costs to students.
Universities currently
participating in the CVU
program      include      the
University of Victoria, Athabasca University, BC
Open University, University of Manitoba, Mount St
Vincent University, and Royal Roads University.
As a participant in BC Open University, a distance-education school that provides online access
to courses in association with various post-secondary institutions, UBC has courses available to CVU
programs, said Bullen. But to protect UBC's reputation, he said, UBC will not accept courses from other
university programs as equivalent.
Bullen also said that with "so many consortiums,
it is getting difficult to decide which ones to join."
CVU does not grant degrees and diplomas directly and students must still be accepted by, and registered in, one of the participating universities in
order to register for CVU courses. Upon successful
completion of a course, students are granted credit
"Distance educa-
f ion operates
in a deregulated
where unknown
entities compete
with established
—Jean Waiters
President of Laurentian
by the university in which they are registered.
Jean Watters, president of Laurentian University
and member of the CVU board, argued that regulating courses was a big part of the program's role. She
said that regulation comes from the quality of its
member universities.
"Distance education operates internationally in a
deregulated marketplace where unknown entities
compete with established universities. CVU was created to offer Canadians a quality-guaranteed education that results in a recognised credential from a
recognised university," she
Bullen said that in general,
he is not concerned with the
quality of virtual education and
"added that he is enthusiastic
with the results of distance
education so far.
"There's lots of good and
bad online, just as there is
lots of good and bad education in the classrooms...but
we have a lot of satisfied students in distance education,"
he said. "[Cooperative virtual
learning] can work very well.
Aside from expanded access,
the insitutions' course development experts and program
designers can work together
to develop .something that can
then be individualised...and
students from the participating institutes can come
together and interact online."
UBC has been working jointly with Instituto
Tecnologico y de Estudios Superfores de Monterrey
in Mexico at developing an online affiliation, and
has plans to cooperate with McMaster University in
rehabilitation science.
While distance education usually targets adults,
whose difficult schedules or locations keep them
from campuses, CVU president Dominique Abrioux
said that university students are also beginning to
gain interest in distance learning.-
' "The typical 20-year-old university student is also
starting to look at online courses," he said. "The
number of people attracted by the flexibility of
online learning and university programs and courses that meet their career needs continues to soar." ♦
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Relaxing skill-assessment criteria could boost economy
by Shawn Jeffords
Ontario Bureau Chief
OTTAWA (CUP)-Canada's 'brain
gain' could save students and new
Canadians across Ontario a major
headache when trying to transfer
schools or get a job, an Ottawa-
based think tank says in a new
report Y
The Conference- Board of
Canada says if Canadian governments, schools and employers^
recognised more degrees, diplomas, certificates and courses
Canadians held, it would add an
additional $4.1- to $5.9 billion to
the country's economy.
The report, released last week,
says the recognition gap is slowing the increase of skilled workers and is hurting the country at a
time when the government
should be trying to boost the
"Recognising this educational
gulf is a very economical way of
adding to our skilled labour supply," said Micheal Bloom, associate director of policy, business
and society for the Conference
Board. Bloom also said that more
than half a million Canadians
could improve their income by
$12,000 a year if the proper system were in place to recognise
their training.
The report points to current
shortfalls in Canada that prevent
students, new immigrants and
Canadian professionals from taking full advantage of all of their
training. Often when students
transfer schools, their credits are
not fully recognised by the new
institution. As well, new immigrants with degrees from foreign
universities are often not recognised by Canadian schools or
- Bloom says filling the recognition gap could present an added
benefit to universities and colleges.
"You'll find that schools that
start to recognise more students'
backgrounds will stimulate them
to take more courses. They'll
want to learn more," he said.
"There are two complex sides
to the issue," said Henry Jacek,
president of the Ontario
Confederation of University
Faculty Associations.
"You have to assessJhe level of
quality of the institute the degree
holder is coming from and you
need to see if the student's skills
should be upgraded. On the other
hand, some people will just say
that these degrees are just too
weak and that they aren't worth
recognising [and] that's not
Jacek said in the past, people
across the board have been too
rigid when it comes to recognising different forms of training.
However, that may be changing.
"I think there has been a real
desire for good will from employers and schools recently and I
think that feeling is increasing.
The rigidity is breaking down and
they're finally looking at the skills
on the table," he said.
Joel Duff, Ontario chairperson
for the Canadian Federation of
Students also says this could
affect the status of colleges in the
Canadian education system.
"Colleges can no longer be
seen as the poor second cousin to
universities," said Duff. "College
is now a stepping stone after university, not the other way
Bloom ' stressed that more
need's to be done by all parties
involved to help bridge the recognition gap.
"Government needs to create
standards that can support more
holistic learning methods," he
said. "Employers and post-secondary institutions might even
consider developing joint credentials between themselves to
help workers, and the public
needs to be more aware of the
learning they have that should
be recognised." ♦ THE UBYSSEY
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2001      5
Bloc MP speaks of separation
"    by Hywel Tuscano
Bloc Quebecois MP Richard Marceau's speech
began simply, with the emphatic statement, "I
am a separatist"
Marceau, an MP from the Charlesbourg-
Jacques Cartier riding in Quebec, was featured
in an Alma Mater Society (AMS) forum last
Wednesday, October 3.
The forum's topic was "The West wants in,
Quebec wants out Sovereignty and Western
alienation, similarities and differences."
Marceau said that feelings of alienation in
the western provinces—feelings of being
ignored by the federal government—provide
reasons for the West to support the separation
of Quebec.
"The West feels alienated or feels they are
likely to wave the 'fleur-de-lys' than they are the
flag of Canada," he said.
Marceau said he thinks Quebec's only association with Canada if it were to separate
would be "some international representation,
maybe currency, but absolutely nothing socially, nothing fiscally."
But not eveiyone in attendance agreed with
Marceau's statements.
"I don't agree with
his distinct society.
Different groups, distinct from one another,
live all over Canada,"
said Alex Inglis, a
fourth-year Arts student "Instead of running for the hills why
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ALL SMILES: Richard Marceau, a Bloc Quebecois MP and separatist believes
Quebec's separation would put focus on the West, surita bains photo
not being treated fairly because their political
weight does not equal their economic weight
inside of Canada," he said. "As long as Quebec
remains a part of Canada, it will take focus
away from the West"
Marceau said that it was a "huge disappointment" for his parly when the Western-
based Canadian Alliance (CA) parry could not
reach voters east of Manitoba, and that the
Bloc and the CA
had   hoped    to
work together to
power in Ottawa.
But while the
forum was being
advertised as a
comparison of
Quebecois and
Western sentiment, Marceau
spent most of his
time speaking
about Quebec's
discontent as a
part of Canada,
particularly the province's relations with the
federal government
According to Marceau, 50 per cent of
Quebec's provincial budget will be spent on
health care by the year 2003 because of lack of
federal funding.
"Where the government once gave 50 cents
for every dollar spent on healthcare, it now
gives 13 cents," said Marceau.
Marceau also emphasised Quebec as a
unique and distinct society apart from Canada.
He also drew comparisons between the
Canada-US relationship and that of Canada
and   Quebec,   ultimately  concluding  that
Canada is as different from the US as Quebec
is from Canada.
"When protesting...Quebeckers are more
—Richard Marceau
MP, Bloc Quebecois
this and work harder
for Canada," he said.
Despite all the talk
of Quebec's separation,
students expressed a
strong  belief in  the
heed for Canada to be united.
"I am a patriot I believe in Canadian unity.
I think they have shied away from what a society is and more towards a political point that
Quebec's voice is not being heard in Canada,"
said Inglis.
"I think a lot of people just don't realise or
understand why Quebec feels the way it does,"
said Christine Lenis, a third-year Arts student
from Montreal. "But I think it's not an issue at
hand right now. I think Quebec should concentrate on other things on
its agenda."
Marceau's speech was given earlier that
same day to the Fraser Institute. Those attending the AMS-sponsored event were given a
briefer version in forum format ♦
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Calling all Clubs,
Series Organizations,
Constituencies and
Resource Groups
Announcing Spring- term Bookings
Line-up for your meetings and socials
Line-up on October 11th at 7:00 a.m. to
book your space in the SUB for next term.
Make sure your bookings representative
is there, or risk losing your place in line.
For further information, please contact:
Mark Fraser, Vice-President
Administration, at 604-822-3961 or
Did you O
know     -s*:
The AMS has created a Health and
Dental Assistance Fund to reimburse
part of the Health and Dental Plan
The fund is; available on a need-basis
from the AMS and GSS*. To apply,
visit us online at www.gss.ubc.ca by
October 15th, 2001.
*The application for reimbursement requires
detailed financial information.
Upcoming Events
XFM Thursdays and the AMS Present...
Fresh from NYC, Billy Hopeless & the gang will
be at the PIT on THURSDAY OCTOBER 11.
Cover is only $8 for students. Show starts at 9
p.m. Come prepared to win free prizes and see
one of the coolest tickets in town.
The Fan Fadiion Far - a sEspn'iig stiraiaganzi
Hosted by your Alma Mater Society
October 9th to 12th - 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Student Union Building - Main Concourse
There will be a bevy of vendors offering a variety
of goods including: jewelry, accessories,
aromatherapy products, native arts, clothing, sun
tanning packages, and yummy edibles (jams,
jellies, & baked goods).
One Month Later
UBC students join together to promote an
inclusive campus community
October 11th, from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
Please join us in the Sub South Plaza to hear live
music, take part in a healing circle, and add your
vision of a tolerant campus on our poster board.
This event is sponsored by the UBC Equity
Office, the Women Students' Office, the First
Nations House of Learning, the UBC Equity
Ambassadors and the AMS Women's Centre.
Callingall International Students
The AMS is looking for ways to increase and improve International Student
Representation on Campus.
Current ideas include: creating a position on student council, adding an
International Students Commissioner, or setting up an advisory body that will
represent your special concerns.
The AMS encourages all International students to get involved. We are keen
to hear from you in order to find solutions that best address your concerns.
Please submit your suggestions to Evan Horie, Vice President Academic and
University Affairs, at vpacademic@ams. ubc.ca or call 604-822-3092.
We want your input
The AMS, your Student Society, wants to know what we can do for you.
We are in the process of creating a multi-year plan to optimize the programs, services,
events, businesses and advocacy that we offer you. Our first step will be to create a closer
bond between the students and the student government.
Please e-mail your comments or suggestions to Krissy Price, Assistant to the President, at:
pres-assistant@ams.ubc.ca or multiyearplan@ams.ubc.ca
We are also looking for volunteers to get the game plan rolling
— so get involved —
We need students for the following committees:
• Long Range Focus Group on Academics, Learning & Support
• Long Range Focus Group on Financial Viability and Stability
• Long Range Focus Group on Community & Relevance to the
• Alpha Appointments Committee -Responsible for making recommendations
for hiring Elections Administrators, Ombuds personnel, Student Court Judges,
Speaker of Council and other Court Officers
Come out and he part of a team that decides your future.
If you are interested, please get in contact with Evan Horie, Vice President
Academic and University Affairs, at vpacademic@ams.ubc.ca or call 604-
822-3092. WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2001
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The UBC Symphony Orchestra and the VSO join forces
by Ron Nurwisah
at the Chan Centre
Oct 12
Two years is a long time to wait for a concert, but for some members of the UBC
Symphony Orchestra, thatYs life. In
1999, students and classical music
lovers found out that UBC's orchestra
and the Vancouver Symphony would
perform Bruckner's Fifth Symphony
under the baton of Georg Tintner, a
world-renowned conductor and well-
known authority on Bruckner works,
later that year.
Then the unimaginable happened—
Tintner committed suicide, leaping
from the balcony of his Halifax apartment No one completely understands
what pushed the 82-year-old Tintner to
take his own life, but some explanation
came from news that he had been suffering from cancer and was faced with
the. prospect of painful, debilitating
UBC scrambled to find a replacement
for Tintner, but on such short notice no
one could be found. The concert was
shelved. Fortunately, this delay has only
been temporary. Next Friday, almost two
years after Tintner's tragic death, the
Vancouver Symphnoy Orchestra and the
UBC Symphony Orchestra—some 160
musicians—will take the stage, at the
Chan Centre.
It's an exciting opportunity for everyone involved. For the students, the
chance to hear professional musicians
up close, much less join them on stage, is
a rare treat In fact, for Micajah Sturgess,
a first-year French horn player, the experience has already been worthwhile.
"I feel like I'm learning lots, both
from the other UBC orchestra members
and the VSO members," he said.
For Evet Kim, a second-year violinist,
the benefits are slightly less tangible. "I
[have] learned the attitude of professionalism [After the rehearsal] I want to go
for it go for a professional orchestra,"
she said.
After Tintner's death, a replacement
seemed impossible. But in 1999, Jesse
Read, dean of the School of Music,
approached Bramwell Tovey, music
director at the Winnipeg Symphony
Orchestra, to conduct the concert At t
time, Tovey was unavailable. But
year he moved to Vancouver to take
the re'r.s «. the Ylncouv^f'|s^gpljMiy,
and*«ow 'i'-jyey will befell
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members of the
unity, was sad-
r's death, but
'it would have
; Tintnerwanted.
STwas very humble kind of guy, the
idea of him working with youth was really
this question of passing on this heritage.
He came from that pre-war era of musicians who had to flee Nazism. He was
quite extraordinary in what he had to
endure throughout the years," Tovey
Looking at Georg Tintner's biography, it's easy to see what Tovey meant by
"heritage." Born in Vienna in 1917,
Tintner grew up in Vienna where the
music of Brahms, Wagner and Gustav
Mahler was fresh in many people's
A gifted musician from an early age,
the Jewish conductor then left Nazi-
annexed Austria in 1938, eventually settling in New Zealand. His career saw him
conduct dozens of orchestras and opera
companies from Australia to Canada,
where he spent the last years of his
career as musical director at Symphony
Nova Scotia.
Tintner's work with Bruckner's compositions goes back to his youth, when
the conductor was a student of Franz
Schalk, a former student of Bruckner
himself. This life-long involvement with
Bruckner culminated in Tintner's critically acclaimed recordings of all
Bruckner symphonies for the Naxos
Today the works of Bruckner don't
have the same popularity as Bach,
Beethoven or even Wagner. But in
Bruckner we can see shades of all three
of these composers. Like J.S. Bach,
Bruckner also started as a church organist. Bruckner's music, although not
overtly religious, does have spiritual
overtones. And like every Austro-
German composer born in the 19th century, Bruckner also feels Beethoven's
influence in his symphonies.
Bruckner's Fifth} Symphony, the work
that headlines the concert, typical
Bruckner: lush orchestration and breathtaking slow movements.
"The stage is just swamped with people and the lioise is awesome and the
commitment of play is quite something,
the bigness of the sound, the richness.
It's very special when you get an orchestra pulling in one direction like that one
big orchestra. It's just a thrill. The whole
sound just embraces you," Tovey said.
For Akira Nagai, the VSO's concert-
master, the best part of Bruckner symphonies is not the elaborate endings, or
enormous orchestrations.
"[The :.'■■ strings] have^ r wonderful
melodies in1 the; "slow movement [In]
Bruckner symphonies the best parts are
in the slow movements, there's always
glorious moments," he said.
But the work is definitely not an easy
one to sit through. As well as being musically rich and complex, the piece also
clocks in at around 80 minutes, almost
double the length of the average symphony. Tovey admits that this was often
a problem for those who have never listened to Bruckner.
To ease the transition, Friday's concert will start with Ralph Vaughan-
Williams's Fantasia on a Theme of
Thomas Tallis. Inspired by an old English
church melody, Vaughan-Williams's
smaller, and more intimate, piece is certainly dwarfed by a Bruckner symphony.
According to Tarda Miller—the VSO's
assistant conductor, the piece is a good
selection for the concert
"The Bruckner has a very large depth
of spirit and much complexity to the
music. The Vaughan-Williams is a simple folk-song that unravels in a very
melodious and softly harmonic way.
They complement each other so well. We
start the concert with the beautiful
sounds of the Vaughan-Williams
melodies and we build into the music
that we're going to be hearing with the
Bruckner," she said.
Tovey feels that the piece's length
ultimately will not be a problem.
"It's exactly the same as climbing a
mountain, you look at the mountain and
you say 'I can't be bothered to do that'
but when you get to the top the view is
spectacular. That's exactly Bruckner's
music. That's exactly the sensation you
get;' he said.
The UBC Symphony Orchestra and
; the Vancouver Symphony conducted by
^amwell Tovey plays Bruckner's Fifth
'Symphony and Ralph Vaughan-
Williams's Fantasia on a Theme of
Thomas Tallis at the Chan Centre
Friday, October 12,8pm Tickets are $ 1S
for students. ♦
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ed. by Lorna Crozier
and Patrick Lane
[Greystone Books]
You might think it sounds
romantic. The fusion of
art and life, the edge of the
page eating into dark-fed
nights. If this sounds interesting, the ten essays in
Addiction: Notes from die
Belly of the Beast can tell
you just how 'romantic' it
really is.
The    essays    read    as
Ihough you're sitting across
from each of these Canadian
personalities: David Adams
Richards, Stephen Reid, Peter
Gzowski,     John     Newlove,
Evelyn Lau, Sheri-D Wilson,
Lois       Simmie,       Marnie
Woodrow and editors Lorna
Crozier and Patrick Lane.
Each of them deserves mention here, because they all relate
with equal nerve their trials
against temptation, the past and
themselves. Each of them writes
with   disairming   forwardness,
without the formality and artistic
by Phoebe Wang
distance of their prose and poetry. Yet you never forget
that they're writers, practiced in grabbing attention. As
addicts, they are even more familiar with attention and
exploiting die very romantic appeal now dispelled in
these essays.
"I was no longer facing the end of the world," writes
Evelyn Lau with her trademark authenticity. "I became
like eveiyone around me." Marnie Woodrow admits once
thinking that her pain was 'unique' and that she was an
"artist with a 'special' set of problems." For David Adams
Richards, the desire to be free of addiction stemmed
from the desire to feel human.
In their attempts to flourish in everyday life, these
writers both fail and triumph. They have managed to prudently measure drama and frenzy, focusing it towards
writing. They've accepted responsibility, as we all must
do. Being different says John Newlove, feels like being
"wrong, hardly human, a performer with no audience, a
fake." The publication of this anthology ensures they'll
never be quite like everybody else. In print, their stories
have the substance of myth. They make you wish you'd
been there at those parties, even though you know they
ended at the rim of a toilet bowl.
This book is a fascinating read. Their essays make you
aware of the danger in fascination, the danger of a society that separates audiences from performers. They have
performed both as addicts and as writers, and reading
this book, it's difficult to tell which holds more interest
In her foreward, Crozier admits that the project of
Addicted arose from wondering what Canadian writers
such as Gwendolyn MacEwan, Al Purdy and Alden
Nowlen might have written about their drownings. It
reminds us again that something enlightening can arise
from the belly of the beast ♦
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until Oct 28
by Ron Nurwisah
Shakespeare has done more to immortalise Britain's royal families than
any other person in history. No matter what the historical truth actually
is, Henry V will be seen as a heroic, charismatic and brilliant warrior-
king; Richard UT is cursed to be a traitor and brutal murderer.
Elizabeth I was never the subject of a Shakespeare play. It was probably a pragmatic gesture on his part, as writing a negative portrayal of
the queen probably would've had Shakespeare rotting in the Tower of
London pretty quickly. But what if Shakespeare really had intended to
write about the great queen but never got to do so? The result might
have looked a little like "Elizabeth Rex."
Written by well-respected Canadian author Timothy Findley (He
Wars, The Piano Man's Daughter), "Elizabeth Rex" revolves around an
imaginary encounter between Shakespeare and his company of actors
and the queen. On the eve of a politically motivated execution, the
actors and Shakespeare are trapped in a barn where they are surprised
by the visit from the queen. AU of them are suitably awed but one, Ned
(David Marr), a gay actor dying of herpes.
Soon Elizabeth (Gabrielle Rose) and Ned get in an argument He
accuses the queen of killing her femininity in order to rule England.
Ned, famous for playing women's parts, is seen by the queen as having
forgotten what it's like to be a man. This conflict is the core of the play
and Findley writes these charicters brilliantly
To say that Findley writes good dialogue would be an understatement—the crucial verbal battles between Elizabeth and Ned explode
from the stage. Their arguments have an almost lyrical quality to them;
as points and counterpoints clash with one another.
Findley liberally sprinkles passages from Shakespeare's plays and
sonnets into the piece. These sonnets take on a life of their own in the
play. They are used by the queen as evidence to link Shakespeare to his
lover, a duke about to be executed. Ned uses a scene from 'Antony and
Cleopatra* to show the queen the meaning of a woman's love.
"Elizabeth Rex* is a textually dense play and has great demands on
its actors. Rose and Marr, the central figures of the play, both give
steely-eyed, epic performances. Their characters experience emotions
ranging from hard-edged stoicism and determinism to grief and
despair. Through it all, both of these veteran actors never veer into
melodrama. Memorable is one way to describe it, near-perfect is
another.    • . "
Nonetheless, I questioned some of director Janet Wright's decisions.
The lighting and use of music to accentuate a number of the dramatic
scenes seemed forced. The fake and contrived backgroud music which
piped through the Stanley's tinny-sounding speakers cheapened some
of the play's most gripping moments.
Greg Roger's portrayal of Cecil, the queen's private secretary, also
fell short Perhaps it was his ridiculous costume, or the rather forced
accent, but I never felt any of the conniving malice or lust for power
that I should've felt from this Machiavellian character.
But in the end, the shortcomings can't even come close to dimming
the brilliance of Marr and Rose's performance or of Findley's script
Shakespeare and Elizabeth may have died centuries ago, but with writers like Findley and the actors of "Elizabeth Rex," these historical rg-
ures can still leave an indelible mark on modern audiences. *> 8      WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2001
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John F McCreary Lecture
Dr. Soma Ganesan, MD, FRCPC
Thursday, October 11, 2001
12:00 -1:00, Woodward IRC #6
The health and welfare of refugees arriving in British Columbia and
Canada are matters of continuing concern though rarely addressed
in public debate. In particular the need to rethink refugee mental
health services is a critically important question. In the context of a
review of current provincial and federal refugee intake policies and
services, and drawing on recent research, Dr Ganesan will address
this topic and propose a system redesign partnership model for
Dr Ganesan's pioneering and extensive work in implementing and
advocating for cross-cultural approaches in the design and delivery
of mental health services in British Columbia is widely recognised. The
field of cross-cultural psychiatry has been enormously enriched by his
research and practice as has the development of culturally sensitive
community mental health and human services. His vision, ideas and
commitments hold significant implications for understanding and
advancing the need for inter-professional education and practice in
the health and human services.
Dr. Ganesan is Clinical Professor [UBCj and Medical Director of the
Clinical Practice Unit of Psychiatry at the Vancouver Hospital.
For further information please call the Office of the Coordinator of
Health Sciences (822-5571)
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Field Birds stay undefeated
Two ties give the field hockey team "a reality check"
 by Scott Bardsiey
In the first Canada West tournament of the season, the
women's field hockey team had an outstanding show,
winning all four games by at least two goals. Last weekend, however, at the second tournament the T-birds'
performance was more mixed—but still strong enough
to keep them in first place in the conference with an
impressive 15 points.
'Being on the top, the only place that you can go is
down, so we felt like we really needed to work hard in
those two weeks and we did, but I think that our opponents worked equally as hard and they were more psychologically ready then we were," third-year forward
Stephanie Quinn said.
'We're feeling like we got a litfle bit of a reality check
this weekend, which was good," she said. "We all feel like
we need to work a little harder in the next two weeks to
prepare for Victoria [the next tournament]."
The team got off to an unlucky start on Friday. Their
flight was delayed and by the time they were taxied out
to the field, it was already past game-time. The team was
given an extra 15 minutes to get their equipment on, but
they were left without their normal 45-minute warm-up.
The game left a lot to be desired.
"We just sort of became complacent, winning the game
1-0, and then Manitoba got a short corner, and they had a
great short-corner unit; and we couldn't stop it and
they got another short corner and scored again, so
we sort of went into panic mode and we tied it 2-2,"
captain Stephanie Hume said.
The team resolved to put Friday behind them,
playing well on Saturday and defeating both Calgary
The team had to play the weekend without midfielder Stephanie Jameson, who broke her thumb at the previous tournament
"Having Steph Jameson injured was hard for us to
adjust to," Quinn said.
The team is increasingly aware of how competitive
their conference has become this year, particularly as
far as Manitoba is concerned. Traditionally, the Bisons
have never been a winning team, but they tied UBC and
beat Calgary in one of their strongest performances in
recent memory.
"It's really close this year. As the games show, different teams are tying all over the place, so every game you
have to be up because it could go either way. Manitoba
used to be killed 10-0 a game and now there's no game
we can go into and not worry about," Hume said.
Overall, despite some mishaps, the Thunderbirds
had a pretty good weekend. They remain the only undefeated team in their conference and their 20 points put
them comfortably ahead of second-place UVic, with 15
points. The team leads their conference and is in a solid
spot to go to the national championships in Toronto this
The Birds will wrap up their regular season
in Victoria in two weeks at the third Canada
West Tournament ♦
Watch out for Stephanie-
all four of them
and Alberta 2-0.
"Those games, we had a good mix of little passes and long balls. We were driving to the net well.
Things were clicking a lot better than they did in the
Manitoba game," fourth-year defender Laura
Balakshin said.
'We played our game. We played our little passing game and were able to do the running game.
Both Calgary and Alberta defensively weren't as
strong and allowed us to walk into the D a lot of the
time. Both games went really well. The team
knew...that we had to pull it together and we did on
Saturday," Hume said.
On Sunday, the team was up against their traditional rivals—and the current second-place team in
the conference—UVic. In the first Canada West tournament the Birds played their best game against the
Vikes, but in the second, it may have been their worst
"UVic did their job very well and figured out how
to stop us from playihg our game and, basically, we
were rattled for the whole game and we weren't
able to do our little passing game...It definitely was
not one of our better games. We sort of held out the
game. It wasn't a question of whether we were
going to win; at the end of the game it was a 'we
made it through that one.' It wasn't a very good
game," Hume said.
"We weren't really playing as a team. It felt like
everybody was trying to win, but not together. They
dominated us. We were lucky to come out with a
tie," Quinn said.
If jou're playing '-he field hotkey te-iin, >ou'd better
wdlfhi out f-ir Stpphanie. And Stephanie. And
Stephanie. And th«t oiher Stephanie. la a tea in '.w!h
oi'Iy 16 players, four of the Bird-? .-re named
Slephame. Aid Stephanie Smith, Quinn, Jniue»un
and H-ime are all powerful pliers In the first
Canada West tournament, Smith scored once in e v-h
game, Quinn got three and Jameson one, while
Hume set up four goals from rcidfield. Smilh and
Quinn currently lead the conference in sroringi
Oa field I'ominuniraUcn could have been a problem
for the Birds wi'Jh four people listening fnr tries nf
"Steph1" but e-K.h pla>> r has her own mi kainie. Qainn
is> 'Q-iinner,'J.'ini-'-i-a is 'Jay' ^nd Hume js Barney,' a
ni'lvncTM" '.hat Hume earned after ^>he had to dress up
as the pL-rple dinusaur in her firstyear for a team function.' Smith, a new placer from SFU, doesn't have a
nil knsine yet "We just cail her Steph since we don't
really have a .'ikknarae for her yet. Some people have
been calling her Smithy, Pinky, but I think for a while
it'll just stii k as Steph because we don't know her well
enough," Quinn said.
Hump enjojs having so many Stephanies on the
te3tn: "It's pretty fun actually. We make jokes about
how we can have a whole short-corner unit work and
just be from Steph to Steph."
But why >>re there so many Stephanies on the field
hockey team when there aren't any, say, on the
women's soccer team? Hume and Quinn guests it's
just 3 coincidence. *>
On Friday at 7pm the 3-2
Saskatchewan Huskies come to
Thunderbird Stadium to play
the 1-4 T-Birds. The two squared
off in September and the
Huskies came out on top with a
massive 50-13 victory. In that
game, the Birds had an inexperienced Rob Kenney as their
starting quarterback, but
Kenney has noticeably
improved as the season has progressed. The team also has Zack
Silverman as its new starting
The game will be crucial in
deciding the Birds' dwindling
post-season hopes, since UBC is
currently caught in a losing
fight with Calgary and Alberta
for the last playoff berth in
Canada West.
The men's soccer team will play
Trinity Western University tonight
at 7:30pm at Thunderbird
Stadium. Although Trinity has
played one more game than the
Birds, the Spartans are still two
points behind UBC in the Canada
West conference, with a whopping
five losses and only four points.
This game should be a good warm-
up for the Birds' Saturday game at
UVic. which will be a challenge for
the Birds as UVic is currently is in
first place with 14 points.
The women's team has a good
chance to move up in the Canada
West conference standings tomorrow at 6pm in T-Bird Stadium
when The Birds play Regina, who
has a streak of terrible play this
year, losing all seven regular sea
son games. The Birds will have a
much more challenging fight on
Friday at UVic, as the Vikes are
only one point behind the Birds in
Canada West
Women's Rugby
The women's rugby team will play
an away game at UVic this
Saturday. The Birds have had a lopsided 0-2 record so far this season,
though their second game was
mired in controversy.
The cross-country team competed
in the Willamette Invitational
Cross-Country Race on October 6.
The men's team finished sixth out
of 40 teams in the 8000m race
with four top 50 finishes. David
Milne placed fourth, Byron Wood
22nd and Jon Luckhurst 40th.
Heather MacDonald led the
women's team with a first-place
finish in the 5000m. The women
finished 16th out of 40 teams, with
Sarah Swann placing 46th. ♦ THE UBYSSEY
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' Dustin Cook
Saturday night, the UBC men's hockey team wrapped up their pre-season
with an impressive 10-1 victory over
the visiting Mount Royal Cougars.
But with a 1-5-1 pre-season record,
the Thunderbirds' pre-season has
been nothing to write home
The team has been suffering
from the injury bug, so it may be
unfair to judge the Birds on their
record alone. Forwards Marc
Stephan and Chris Rowland are
recovering from shoulder injuries.
Forward Tyler Kuntz has a knee
injury from the Canucks prospects
game. Worst of all, centre Rob
Petrie's injuries will keep him out of
action for at least a month.
The Birds were also struggling in
the pre-season, still adapting to a
more offence-oriented game plan,
which, up until the Saturday night,
had yet to work.
The Birds seem to have a problem
putting the puck in the net Last year
they averaged a paltry 2.6 goals per
game, finishing last in their division
in goal scoring. And to make matters
even worse, last season's leading
scorer Ian Lampshire graduated.
But coach Mike Coflin has a plan.
With a change in game strategy, he
hopes centres Casey Bartzen and
Nils Antons will be able-give the
Birds the point production they
"We're going to try to open it up
a little bit We've had trouble scoring
so we're going to try to approach
offence from a group point of view
and try to activate our defencemen
and try to be a little more creative,"
he said.
"It's not going to show overnight
but it should create more scoring
chances," he concluded. 'We're
going to be entertaining one way or
Coflin is optimistic that the Birds
will get better. And rightly so; after
finishing in the cellar of the Canada
West conference last season with a
6-19-3 record, the Birds have
nowhere to go but up.
But the Birds also impressed
Coflin with their play in the second
half of last season. The team's
improvements in the off-season
have also been cause for optimism.
The Birds lost several key players
in the off-season, including team
captain Trevor Shoaf. They have 16
returning players, though nine are
only in their second year. The team
may be young, but they're united.
"Our team, is really together,
we've kind of eliminated some pretty high-maintenance people that
really didn't fit our team concept,"
Coflin said. Left-winger Brad
Keilmann echoed coach Collin's
"The team is a great group of
guys that get along veiy well and
want to work hard for each other.
We're not just teammates but we're
Coflin is also pleased with this
year's defensive . corps. Chris
Sotiropoulos and Brent Zaluski have
had excellent training camps. Led
SMOOTH SKATING TheThunderbirds practice on Monday afternoon in the Winter Sports
Centre for Friday's season-opener against Alberta, nic fensom photo
by new team captain David;Penner,
the Birds look solid on the blue line.
But not only are the defencemen
strong, the Birds' last line of defence
is even better.
Starting goalie Robert Filch
returns this season after training
last summer with the Slovakian
national team. He's backed up by
rookie Chris Levesque, who was a
three-time all-star in the Manitoba
Junior League.
"It looks like we've  got two
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Our goaltending should be as good
as anyone's goaltending tandem in
the league," Coflin said.
The Birds will start their season
on Friday night in a tough home
opener against the Alberta Golden
Bears. Last season Alberta was the
best team in the Canada West conference, losing only once in the regular season. In the pre-season the
Birds had a fair record against the
Bears, tying them once after suffering a 4-2 loss the night before.
If the Birds' defence and goal-
tending remain solid, and their
offence clicks like it did on Saturday
night they should have a decent
shot at their first playoff spot since
1997-98. But if they're going to get
their season off to a good start,
they'll have to find a way to win
against some tough opposition without key players who are out nursing
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transformed Ai Tin Choo into spam. "What's, a masthead?" inquired wide-eyed leapfrog Kerrie Thornhifl.
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Who's watching out for students
When the Ubyssey wanted to know the details of
a confidential exclusivity deal the university and
the Alma Mater Society (AMS) made with Coca-
Cola in 1995, it took six years, two Freedom of
Information requests, and extensive national
media coverage to get the details.
It should have just taken a bylaw.
According to the AMS's Bylaw 18, "the books
and records of the Society may be inspected by
the members...on any school day between the
hours of 10am and 3pm.*
This means that last year, any student should
have been able to walk into the AMS's offices
and ask to see the Coke contract and be able to
peruse the 76-page document to their heart's
Had a student been shown this contract last
year, the AMS could have been sued by Coke. But
this is irrelevant. The fact that AMS councillors
entered into a confidential agreement in 1995,
knowing that the contract violated the society's
own bylaws—the principles on which the society
should be based—shows a commitment to something other than students.
But now that the AMS is not involved in any
secret deals, the AMS could separate themselves
from the. decision of past councillors. When the
Coke contract was released in May this year,
AMS President Erfan Kazemi said that the socie-
■ iy had "always, wanted to release the documentation, so we're happy that it's out in the open."
But today, the AMS Council will debate a
number of proposed changes to its bylaws. One
of the changes, if passed, will allow the AMS to
keep confidential any information "which is otherwise protected from disclosure by law or by a
contract to which the Society is party."
So, despite the fact that the AMS is happy that
the confidential deal has been unsealed, they are
setting themselves up to participate in more
secret contracts? Something's not quite right
Many other student societies across Canada
aren't as confused about their priorities when it
comes to commercial opportunites. When
Capilano College signed a confidential exclusivity deal with Coke in 1997, the North Vancouver
college's student newspaper, the Capilano
Courier, joined the Ubysseys FOI request But
while UBC's student society had been a part of
the confidential exclusivity deal, Capilano's student union became a part of the resistance.
When the Courier placed a large purple fridge
filled with non-Coke products in the centre of the
school's student lounge, the student union—
which had earlier refused to put a Coke vending
machine in the area—supported the paper.
"Basically we feel that public institutions
should be accessible to everybody, and we have
a right to space where we're not being pitched
something," said student union Chairperson
Alexandra Hansen at the time.
A right to space where students are not being
pitched something—a novel idea. Anyone who
has walked down the centre of the SUB this year,
even when there aren't booths selling watches
and sarongs, could tell you that the SUB is just
another part of campus where you can't avoid
spending money.
Some parts of the suggested changes to Bylaw
18 make sense. Keeping confidential the personnel records of AMS employees and security
codes of the SUB—fair enough. But this shouldn't
be tied into the commercial interests of the AMS,
or those of 'third parties' in future contracts.
The AMS keeps saying that its number-one
focus is student services. But proposals like
these, which protect the financial interests of the
society while barring its members from important information, show that the AMS is focused
more on profit, less on students.
Not only would students be prevented access
to future confidential agreements, the newly
proposed bylaws would actually take away the
rights of students to decide whether a document
should be confidential. The proposed changes to
Bylaw 18 would give the AMS General
Manager—an unelected non-student official who
already controls much of the AMS's policy—the
power to decide which documents would be
open to student inspection.
How could students do this to other students?
One final thought. The AMS has to get almost
4000 students to vote in a referendum on bylaw
changes. Getting 4000 students to vote on anything has proved to be a challenge in the past
Last year's elections saw only 3122 students cast
a ballot to elect their AMS executive. Despite the
questionable nature of some of the proposed
bylaws, the AMS needs to have them updated. ♦
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Supporting Dr.
I would like to support the recent
article titled "Professor Thobani
supported by UBC" (Oct 5) by Ai
Lin Choo.
It is important when discussing
a certain incident or view, to keep
the context in mind. I further agree
with the chair of UBC's women
studies Tineke Hellwig's comment
that "what any person hears should
be critiqued and discussed. [And]
it's essential that people see differ
ent sides to an issue."
I also agreed with the second-
year Arts student interviewed,
Emily Elder. All the labels many
people are putting on Thobani are
unfair. Each person should be
allowed to speak her mind. It might
be hard to believe a UBC professor
being up-front about comments
such as these, especially at this time,
but it is still her point of view. There
must be some reason that would
cause her to say such things. The
important thing is to understand
why she said what she said, instead
of focusing on what she said.
Things like speeches can be
effective because of their popularity with the public, or they can be
like Dr. Thobani's speech, shocking
and the centre of a heated debate.
Speeches are intended for communication of ideas on the part of the
presenter and a source of reflection
for the audience. The quality and
quantity of the responses received
regarding Dr. Thobani's speech is a
good sign that people actually
thought about what she said.
Response is a good thing, no matter
if it is positive or negative.
—Susan Lin
Grade 12, Sir Winston Churchill
Secondary School
Remarks charcteristic.
of Western universities
Your editorial "Who Really
Deserves Our Scorn?" (Oct 5) suf
fers from the same selective indignation and perversity that characterised assistant professor
Thobani's recent remarks. If you
kept up with the American opinion
press, you'd see that there's been
plenty of scorn for "white, middle-
class. Western" men who have
made comments similar to
Thobani's. You might also notice
that a "woman of colour* is the
United States' national security
advisor, and that a man of colour is
its secretary of state.
It is true that Thobani's comments got more attention than
some, but the obvious reasons for
that seem to have only partially
penetrated your thick ideological
armour. Yes, it was the timing.
But more than that it was the
irony. Overwrought sanctimonious "pro-feminist* fantasies
notwithstanding, Thobani's sex
and race had nothing to do with it.
Being a foreigner did, but only
because of the extent of her scorn
toward a culture which affords
her a comfortable living and the
freedom to speak out But what
was most newsworthy was that at
a moment when the US and the
West is in conflict with one of the
most repressive, violent and
misogynistic regimes in recent
history, it is the West this supposed feminist accuses of "patriarchal racist violence.*
Thobani stands for a kind of
resentment that has infected universities around the West and has
done so much to lower their reputation. Rather than a reasonable
appraisal of both the successes
and failures of the West,
Thobani's ilk focuses on, magnifies and even fabricates fault, all
while avoiding frank discussion of
the real failures of the undemocratic nations of the world. She is
not unique in her expressions of
resentment for the West, but the
timing, the irony and the extraordinary venom of her speech made
it especially newsworthy.
-Anthony O'Donnell
Forestry students:
giving back to the
In response to Mark Bryan's letter
"What do Forestry students know
about civility?' (Oct 5), as a biology-
turned-Forestry student myself I
take exception to Mr. Bryan's view,
that we are "destroying one of this
country's most valuable natural
resources." Might I remind you that
our resources are valuable precisely
because we make use of them (what
are YOU wiping with?).
In addition, as Forestry students,
we are learning to manage them in
such a way that they will remain
valuable for generations to come. It
seems strange to me that Mr. Bryan
would object to this when all over
the world countries like Afghanistan
rape and pillage their natural
resources to raise money for war
and terrorism without ever giving
back to the environment. Who's
civilised now?
-Kirsten MacKenzie
Graduate student—Forestry
Forestry fights back
Mark Bryan from Philosophy
claims that as a Forestry student, I
have no grounds to speak on matters outside of my field. ("What do
Forestry students know about civility?' Opinion [Oct. 5]). He then proceeds to contradict his own logic by
speaking about forestry, which has
nothing to do with his studies!
Contrary to the lies spread by
environmental organisations, the
forest industry is not attempting
to remove all the trees from BC.
The industry is focused on sustainable development while simultaneously considering all the values of the forest This is why there
have been almost five billion
seedlings planted in BC (200 million every year), and why there are
millions of cubic meters of second-growth trees being logged
each year. We've been logging
here for more than 120 years and
still almost 80 per cent of our
forests remain untouched, with 15
million hectares of old growth forest protected. BC's entire annual
harvest comes from less than one-
third of one per cent of BC's working forest which is itself only 24
per cent of the provincial land
I would also like to dispute
some of the statements made by
Katja Cronauer ("No Genocide in
Canada," Opinion [Oct 2]) against
my letter. The writer said that the
"excessive military force" used
against the Natives at Oka is evi
dence for genocide. How are the
police supposed to respond to a
group of people armed with
machine guns who are shooting at
them? This can't be construed as
evidence for genocide, because
law had to be restored and there
was no other option in these
cases. Another point made in the
letter was that over half the people
killed by police were Natives. Are
we supposed to believe from this
statement that the police have
been shooting people only
because they were Native? This is
ridiculous, obviously there were
just more people of Native origin
who conducted themselves in a
manner which led to them being
shot by the police. This is a sad
fact, but to cry genocide is unwarranted. If there is a genocide of
Natives here, where are the mass
executions? There are none,
because there is no genocide of
Natives in Canada.
—Matt Campbell
Forestry 4
The hypocrisy of the
word hate'
On October 1, 2001, Dr. Sunera
Thobani a professor of women's
studies at UBC, was credited with
some very controversial and some
would say "hateful" remarks.
What is interesting, however, is
how the university and the student
body are reacting. University should,
ideally, be a. place of freedom of
speech and the ability for individuals
to further develop themselves by
forming opinions and using their
better judgement So I do believe
that Dr. Thobani has a right to voice
her opinions, although maybe picking a bad time and venue for them.
What is the most interesting aspect
of this story is how it has unearthed
a tremendous amount of hypocrisy
• on this campus.
As a neutral party often reading
and observing the Genocide
Awareness Project (GAP) opposition,
I cannot help but notice several pro-
choice supporters rallying around
Dr. Thobani's right to free speech.
However, these same demonstrators are the first to speak out against
GAP as "hateful" and thus not applicable to the same rules of free
Does this make sense to an intelligent person? Seems to me that
"hate* has become a good word for
limiting free speech. Please stop
insulting our intelligence and let us
make our own decisions.
—Sebastian van Wollen
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Oct 10
When I entered the raeaSr& to see Yado-Yadegar, I knew
very little about Iran other than its location on the globe
and its government's seemingly xenophobic attitude
towards the Western world.     - f
Yado-Yadegar, I would soon Bad out from an elderly
Iranian couple sitting befiind mej translates loosely into
memory and place of ineffitory^ With footage shot over a
four-year period,,'directors Mostafa R. Karimi and
Farhad Varahraia takgf us on a Journey through their
homeland. The moviefDigresses through a shockingly
diverse array of rjatroral scenes, and explores some of
Iran's beautiful historical buildings.^ With only a b4,ef
spattering of eylture thrown in, it*tcfei$l%get a seiisjl
of the Iraniawpeople,'However, 3*#4 me -qu7"- '-*
footage taken, the film's focus on Iran's environment
and art history is well-warranted.
A skillfully designed soundtrack accompanies the
movie. With many scenes being only seconds long, a
number of the transitions often felt forced and abrupt
Nonetheless, these quick transitions allowed the presentation of much more footage than conventionally possible, and enhanced the film. Yado-Yadegar s breakneck
visual pace was also reminiscent of another gorgeously
shot film, Baraka. *
As I walked out of ihe theatre I was flooded with
memories of Iran, its beauty and culture laid bare for
me. And though they aren't my memories, I now feel
compelled to visit Iran, the place ofthqse memories that
K&^K^egarSo eloquently c£pjwf*3tir4
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Sept 3Q
Kwak Kyung-Taek's autobiographical movie is one of
the highest grossing movies in Korean rttm, and shows
- the maturity of Korean cinema. ,
' - Friend is a complex movie and
sometimes difficult to watcli. It traces
the Byes of four friends—the intellectual (the character based 04 the
directot himself), the two gangsters
(played by Jang Dong-Gua and Suh
,Tae-Hwa) and fee happily ittarried
man over the span of two decades,
from' a cnerished childhood in the
, 1970s to a'tuybulenl; adulthood in the 1990s. The £Lm
, is dominated by issues of trust, honour and loyalty. The
two gangster figures pledge eternal brotherhood at one
point, but as the movie unfolds, they betray each other
and one orders his, 'brother' killed. Kwak's character is
constantly torn by his support for both- his hoodlum
friends!,, _ t  ,     - '    Y   „,- '   ''; .'.'■ ' ,. ' ' >
■'. . What is most interesting, ftut also most disturbing;'
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at the VIFF
Oct 7
The French ha^e a tradition of making complicated, subtle and great- films about love. A case in point is, Va
Savoir, a film with more meaning, better characters and
more intricate love triangles than your average romantic comedy. „"5---.f >>p
Camille (Jeaan£~Balibar)fc is an actress returning \stM.
Paris after a three-year absence and a semJ^accessM
tour around Europe. She finds herself more^|Hghten«fr
of the stage thaasver before^ But,it*» i^th^rs^teg'lha^ -
truly worries her. She ip more;"wsKferoedT about '<w4
encounter with her ex-losfer and hls'new^gfrlfrieMY
Canaille's new relationship with-, her director further -
complicates the situation. '' -?"?» W"-"4\ 7
The two couples decide to get together for dinner,
a meeting which naturally goes sour. Throughout Va
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at the VIFF
Oct. 5
Having grown up with Disney movies and the usual
Hollywood blotkbuslers, I was unprepared for a film
composed largely of sexual promiscuity and incest
Jan Dara will be an eye-opener lor naive audiences.
This rendition of the inflammatory novel by Thai
author Osana Phleur.gtham treats sex as something
existing outside the realm of human propriety and
goodness, distinct from love and respect
Jan Dara is a man with many roles: the hated son,
the man in love, tlie devoted one. The movie explores
the sins of lust and adultery within a deeply reMgious
family, where justice for betrayals committed by two
different generations is served by karmic retribution.
In between close-ups of gorgeous actors frolicking
with one other lies a lesson about Thai culture in the
is the parallel sequencing of scenes myolving the two- ;
gangsters. As one {Dong-Cun} is training his new
recruits in the art of murder, his friend {Tae-Hwa) is
ruthlessly sabotaging a fishery and killing workers
using the methods that Dong-Gun describes, This \
sequencing   is   reminiscent   of   Coppola's   The 1
Godfather.   Another   brilliantly
employed technique is the use- of ;
,' black-and-white shots to show the- {
, past as outof-reach memories. \
: Despite scenes of intense via- \
lenceY the movie focuses ori the j
values, of male friendship., This ;
film could have turned out to be '
another melodramatic film, but \
Kwak's vision steers us away from I
that. Thg rav? emotions are compelling,, and the \
story is woven together artistically to make 3 strong ;
tale full of intimate friendships. Friend is a moving :
and harrowing movie to watch. It takes its audience
,through a journey; that's both' engaging and' ]
heartbreaking.*    ,-     '.    ''    '   -\  ' '
' : •       '' —Samantha Tse ;
^Savoir, fhe two'women fluctuate oetween a dynamic
of mutual jealousy and one of mutual admiration.
The men, on the other hand, participate in a verbal
swashbuckling match and their antagonism culminates i$ 3|Suel to the death.' The pJ4fep: 50 feet above
ground in the scaffolding of thefplayhouse. The
weapon: vodka. The idea is to drink' until only one
man & left ^standing. I won't give away the ending,
Dtttljsall.say that this is one of the most entertaining
Jsgt^egof the fiTm. 	
7-^e'fepurm of Va Savoir lies- in its intense, quirky
ch^acteBfand its witty dialogue. The moral of this story
is i$i O&at© live by, and the ending is somewhat of a dis-
appolntmea^ SWk;Jfa~S~avoir is worth watching for its
hilariously awkward situations and its light-hearted take
oa tempta&oaulb Hie enj, this French vehicle is still better thaa the latest Nora Ephron schlock-fest ♦
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1950s and tho marks lelt by World War. II; While thej
relationships between mastrr, servant, and elders
have all boon blurred, traditional cultural roles are
still observed, and we see that title holds importance
over all else. With few people he can rely on, Jan is
unable to escape his familial ties and obligations and
he lacks the power to control sexual desire, just as his *
despicable father did.
Asipn fiims rarely drpict sex as anything other than*
something people do behind closed doors/- but this*
film definitely breaks  the mold. Director N'onzee
N'imibutr not only explores sex and eroticism but also j
examines rape and abortion, wrenching ewry sexual
controversy out of tlie closet and forcing audiences to
acknowledge, then contemplate the issues. The end
result is a courageous film that never flint Los at the
darker and seamier side of sexual experience. ♦
—Beckie Wong


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