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or bust
Vol.   XLVI
No. 30
Shown above is sketch otcampus upon completion of a five-year, $30 million building program. Dotted elipse
shows main feature—an academic core.
Governors say
SUB help
keyed to
fee hike
UBC's board of governors
has told student council Thursday night it won't back the
proposed student union building financially unless the SUB
is paid off in 15 years.
Without administration support, the students would have
serious difficulties financing
and administering the building, said president Malcolm
"It would not be realistic
for us to go ahead with the
building without their support," he said.
Under present conditions,
the AMS fee would have to be
raised $5 in order to pay off
the SUB in 15 years.
The present $10 allocation
would take 30 years.
The board's statement said
the financing plan, under
which students would pay $2.9
million of the $3.8 million
building, "is approved subject
to acceptance toy the student
body of an increase in Alma
Mater fees of $5 per year for
15 years."
The statement also said no
further discussions on the architectural competition for SUB
would take place "until it has
been determined that the student body approves the proposed SUB project and agrees
to the 15-year financing plan."
(Without  administration   approval    of    the    architectural
(Continued on Page 5)
... waste of land
stye's site
too good',
says Porter
The present student union
building site is too good, says
UBC planner John Porter.
Porter, who in June gave
up a downtown architectural
practice to head a group mapping out UBC's future
growth, says the SUB site is
prime academic land, within
one block of a four-building
area which will house 14,000
"It's just too good a piece of
land for a non-academic building," Porter said'.
"If the present five-year
plan goes into effect, the
corner of the Main Mall and
University boulevard will be
the student centre of the campus."
5-year plan will
change UBC's face
Student parking sent
to sports arena area
A $30 million five-year building program that will radically change the face of the campus was unveiled Monday
by campus planner John Porter.
The   plan   features
an academic core with an approximate diameter of 2,000 feet,
centred on the library lawn.
It shows the student centre
of the campus will be in four
biulding complexes in the
area of Main Mall and University Boulevard.
These buildings — and expanded bio-science/ education,
new art-commerce block and
the physics-chemistry complex
—will house 14,000 students.
All student parking will be
relegated to an area north of
the present winter sports arena
and south of Agronomy Road.
Vehicular traffic will be al-
m o s t non-existent on the
campus proper. Instead, a
perimeter road, approximately
as outlined on the map, will
ring the campus and short access roads and loops will allow access to central areas.
University area will end in
a bus loop in front of the proposed student union  building.
Faculty parking will be
limited to four lots, on the
"corners"    of    the    academic
core, as shown in the drawing.
A new engineering complex,
already under construction,
will be completed in 1966-67
and will be located as marked
on the sketch.
The new $15 million teaching hospital will be included
in the five-year plan only if
more money can be raised
from outside sources.
Under the plan a new administration building will be
built, located west of the
West Mall, between the mall
and the residences.
A new forestry-agriculture
building will go in west of the
engineering complex and south
of the B.C. research council
The stadium will be moved,
if the new student union building goes in, probably to a
site west of the present sports
A new major access road to
the university probably an extension of Sixteenth Avenue,
will likely be built. It will
allow access to the major student parking lot.
(Continued on Page 5)
Porters plan .. .
Here are the highlights of
John Porter's five - year
#$30 million in buildings, $45 million if hospital
# More than double the
building value of the campus.
# Student parking further than C-lot and four
major faculty lots.
# University Boulevard
ending in bus loop in front
of union building.
to consider
CUS fee levy
UBC students may soon be
paying more to belong to the
Canadian Union of Students.
AMS president Malcolm
Scott said Monday a resolution
for an increased per-student
levy will be put before the
council soon.
Carleton University and the
University of Alberta have recently increased their per student levies to $1.
UBC's contribution to CUS
for   1963-64  is  $5,710,   or   an
(Continued on Page 5)
Tuesday,  November  19,  1963
Campus males beware
—stuart   clugston   photo
sizing  up Mike Vaux for Sadie Hawkins  Day.
Sadie Hawkins' Day caps
a week for UBC's women
Sadie Hawkins' Day is Friday so all campus males
better beware.
Sadie Hawkins' Day allows
females to chase males, buy
their    coffee   and    generally
perform pleasantries for campus gentlemen.
It was created by cartoonist Al Capp for one of his
characters — Sadie Hawkins
— who couldn't  find  a hus-
UBC professor elected
as NDP vice president
A UBC professor was elected to the executive of the
B.C. New Democratic Party at its weekend convention.
Dr. Walter Young, of the Political Science department, became second vice-president of the party.
He is also expected to chair a committee to investigate
the selection of candidates for each constituency.
Provincial leader Robert Strachan was re-elected to
his .eighth term as provincial leader.
Glot  potholes  gone
— for the time being
The potholes in C-lot disappeared Saturday but they'll
probably be back.
R. S. Houston, a civil engineer with the department of
buildings and grounds, said it
cost more than $400 to fill and
grade all parking lots and access roads.
"But," he said, "unless the
weather clears up and especially if we get a frost the surface
will soften and sink."
HKU trounced
TAIWAN (CUP)—The Taiwan University ping pong team
recently beat a visiting Hong
Kong University team by a
score of six games to one.
UBC Employees Union
Local No. 116
Sun., Dec. 15th, 1963, in the
Labor Temple, 307 West
Broadway, at 2 p.m. sharp.
This will cancel the meeting  of Wed., Dec. 11th.
Last week students began to
grumble when heavy rains
opened up large holes in C-lot
and access roads became
Several students complained
they damaged their cars when
they failed to see the holes.
band. It has become a nation
ally celebrated day.
And UBC is no exception.
Friday night, UBC will
have a Sadie Hawkins' Dance
in Brock Lounge.
The dance will mark the
windup of the Associated
Women's week.
The week will include a
Wednesday debate in Brock
Lounge (Topic: BA spells
MRS.) and a bazaar Friday
also in the Lounge.
There campus males will
be able to have their backs
rubbed1, pants mended, and
shoes shined.
Friday's girl-ask-boy dance
is designed to give girls an
opportunity to repay in kind
the countless dollars and energy spent for the ritual
known as entertainment.
Dress for the dance is
'hard times' and girls will
be expected to provide vegetable corsages for their beaus.
Tickets are on sale all
week at the AMS office,
South Brock.
English premier
Bennett weighs 245 dry lbs,
and does not speak French.
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CCF, CLC merger
was 'key event'
The union of the old CCF and the Canadian Labor Congress is the most significant event of recent Canadian history.
This is what William Dodge,
executive vice-president of the
CLC told an audience of UBC
students Friday. He said it
represents a turn from the traditional point of view held by
Samuel Gompers, a former
president of the American Federation of Labor.
Gompers was president of
the AF of L continuously from
1882 to  1924.
"Gompers felt that unions
should encourage the rank and
file to vote for individuals
who they felt were friendly to
labor," he said.
"This works under the
United States government
system, but in Canada where
the parties follow a party line
an individual who is a friend
to labor may be forced to support anti-labor legislation.
Dodge gave a short speech,
in order to leave time for questions
When asked if the connection between the NDP and the
CLC had not harmed the public image of the party because
of strikes and violence, he replied:
"It hasn't helped. We have,
however, gained votes across
the country although this is
not reflected in parliamentary
"We are a voluntary organiz-
aton, with no police powers,"
he said. "There was nothing we
could do about the criminal
actions with the SIU."
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m*t& fuesday, November  19,  1963
Page 3
Perrault —
"Separatism is a sterile, bitter, unrealistic  introversion."
Ray Perrault, B.C. Liberal
Party leader, said this Monday.
He said he is weary with
talk of separatism.
"Press coverage of separatism is more heat than light."
"An overwhelming number
of the citizens of Quebec are
too sensible to be influenced
by this kind of irresponsible
"claptrap," he said.
Perrault was speaking to
more than 300 students in
Brock Lounge.
Separatism would be economically disastrous for Quebec.
And, he said, separatist
Pierre Bourgault "does not
know the facts and figures of
the  economic  situation."
Bourgault spoke here during French  Canada Week.
"I believe in Confederation,
said Perrault. "Unless we hang
together, we may hang separately."
"We did not commit ourselves to bilingualism and biculturalism at Confederation.
We have no obligation to biculturalism on historical
"Bilingualism cannot be
legislated. "It must result naturally from economic need."
One student asked where
Fulton obtained his campaign
"A high ranking Conservative who doesn't like Fulton
told me McCutcheon got them
from businessmen in the
East," he said.
get their
polio lumps
Nurses will pop sugar lumps
into the mouths of UBC students Nov. 28.
The lumps will contain a
new oral polio vaccine.
The clinic, from 9 a.m. to
4:30 p.m. in The Armory is
open without charge to all
students, faculty, staff, and
residents of the University
Dr. A. M. Johnson, head of
the university medical health
services said only persons who
have had at least two shots
of the Salk vaccine should take
the oral vaccine.
. . . digs money
than bones
B.C. is a rich field of study
for the archaelogist but most
of B.C.'s archaeologists are
anything but rich .
In fact they're so poor, says
a UBC antropology professor,
they spend more time digging
for cash than  artifacts  .
Dr. Charles Borden Saturday night told a UBC audience, "I have to dig for funds
before I can dig for artifacts.
"And it's harder, more frustrating and more time consuming.
"Archaelogy is badly neglected in B.C.," he said, "most
of the province is a blank regarding research in this field."
"B.C. has a wealth of
archaelogical evidence of pre-
historical races and cultures,"
Borden said.
He said the total budget of
archaeologists in B.C. for the
last 18 years was only $65,000.
"The University of Oregon,
he said, "has an annual budget of $75,000 to search for
Borden urged business, research companies, government
sources and news media to support the fight for more funds
for the study of archaelogy.
Borden spoke to more than
300 persons Saturday at a
Vancouver Institute lecture.
Four receive
Four scholarships worth
$2,500 each have been awarded
to UBC students by Union
Carbide of Canada.
Recipients are Michael Healey, Sc. IV; Christopher Breal-
ey, Sc. Ill; Garth Van der
Kamp, Sc. II and James Lund-
gren Sc. I.
Altogether 60 Canadian students at 19 universities will
share $150,000 in scholarships
from Union Carbide.
McMaster students find
food was spiced too well
HAMILTON, Ont. (CUP) — Horrified McMaster university students are finding flies, hair, green and white
worms and cockroaches in meals served at the campus
One student said he found bits of tin in several desserts, but it didn't bother him:
"It's the things we don't see that bother me," he said.
Cafeteria superintendant Gail Carruthers said the
worms might have come in a shipment of canned food,
the metal filings from a faulty can opener, and the flies
through an open kitchen door.
On scholarship plan
Gov't promises
to keep promise
A $10 million federal government scholarship plan will
be in operation in time for the 1963-64 academic year.
Tex Enemark, Western Vice-
president of the Canadian University Liberal Federation,
said Monday senior cabinet
ministers in Ottawa assured
him of this last weekend.
The scholarship plan, to
provide 10,000, $1,000 scholarships for Canadian university
students, was promised by the
Liberals in the last election.
"They told me they would
bring down the legislation
early in the new year," he
said. "They want to have the
scheme ready for next fall."
Enemark said he talked to
cabinet ministers Lionel Chevrier, Maurice Lamontagne and
parliamentary advisor Tom
"I told them about the discontent of students of this
university over the delay in
starting the scholarship plan,"
he said.
UBC student council recently sent the government a letter
Candles will
light SUB
lights will go out on University of Ottawa students unless
they pay their bills.
The local power company
will turn out the lights in the
student union building unless
someone pays for recent maintenance costs.
Students and the administration insist the company should
pay for the work they claim
was  "long overdue."
protesting  the   delay   and   demanding action.
Enemark was in Ottawa to
attend a convention of the
Young Liberal Federation.
"It's most encouraging to
hear this," said AMS first vice-
president Jim Ward, "but if
they don't bring in the legislation by next January, we'll
have to start agitating again."
Grads   spirit
to get jolted
Tom Skupa, newly elected
grad class president, wants
graduating students to get
up a head of spirit.
He said the grad class executive will plan a series of
speakers, panel discussions
and social activities after
He said grad students interested in planning activities should attend a meeting
today noon in Bu. 202.
Mud problem
University is the only university in the world where a count
is kept of submerged Volkswagens. They have a muddy
parking lot.
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Block that cobweb
The essence of the university today is a cult of
mutual unintelligibility.
Dr. Nortlhrup Frye, one of Canada's outstanding men
of letters, made that statement the other day in Kingston.
It is also the conclusion that has been reached by
hundreds of puzzled undergraduates after three sleepy
months in the ivy-covered halls of learning.
Like the sociology students who complained last
week in The Ubyssey about a dry, aimless course, which
they are forced to swallow on TV, yet.
Unfortunately, tihe sociology class is not the only
one suffering from the blight of the academic supermarket, indeed, it's probably better off than some.
In class after class, undergraduates are faced by
teachers who can't teach. They don't inspire one to
learn, or to think. The most they do is inspire 10:30
a.m. yawns, and coffee-shop discussions about who is
really UBC's worst.
These profs read from the textbook, which is usually even duller, take whole periods to explain a
"simple" concept which is just too simple for words, and
dash from the room precisely 10 seconds before the buzzer. They are irritating, humorless, condescending. They
are nit-picking, cynical and anti-social.
And they're encouraged to withdraw even more by
a strange custom which decrees that the best professors
are the ones who hide the most in their office, reading
the oldest books, and writing the most academic papers.
You must be able to publish, not teach, at university.
We must have it all wrong, but, to us, this tradition
is the classic example of the cobwebby, complacent, conventional academic mind at work.
The only solution we can see is to memorize your
crib sheets, snatch your BA from the chancellor, and get
the hell out of here.
And, oh—if you hear a rustle up at the front of the
class while you're reading this, don't worry. It's just
your professor scratching his cobwebs.
Letters  on  SUB
What will become of Brock?
What is this man doing?
a) Demonstrating the fly now, pay later
b) Doing 5-BX.
c) Performing a  parliamentary judo-
d) Telling his boss to stuff it.
e) Negotiating  the   price  of  a   Chev
f)  Nothing.
Editor, The Ubyssey:
I have been watching the
SUB controversy develop
over the past few months, culminating in the emotionally-
charged AMS general meeting, during which speakers
with varying degrees of eloquence declared themselves
either for or against.
If UBC was a well-endowed
university, and had adequate
research facilities, a well-
stocked library, good salaries
for profs, etc. I could see
some merit in spending $4
million in student money for
a union building.
But while our academic deficiencies exist, it would be
criminal to spend so much for
facilities which will do nothing to help the desparate situation our university is in.
But the principle reason for
this letter is to protest the
future of Brock. Mr. Scott has
told us that it will be turned
over to the administration if
the SUB is built. I was not
aware that buildings built
with student funds could ever
be used for other-than-stu-
dent activities. The gym and
ice arena will not likely re
vert to the administration in
futuer, so why Brock?
We thought enough of the
place to rebuild it after it
burned down; then we put an
expensive wing on it. And
now it seems the building for
which we paid is no longer
Council seems remarkably
unperturbed by this apparently futile expenditure of student money, our money. Or
perhaps the vision of a shiny
new SUB is temporarily
blinding them to reality.
Vote NO on the referendum.
Science IV
Fair amount
Editor, The Ubyssey:
At the general meeting
Thursday one girl suggested
that fees for payment of the
SUB be scaled according to
I see no reason for this. If
SUB is passed—and I certainly hope it is—then no student regardless of year, would
have to pay an unfair amount.
This year's frosh would
have to pay for three years,
which is only fair because
they will get at least one
year's use of it. A student
in third year at present
would pay only one year. Is
this such a great price to ask?
Who knows, maybe their
children will benefit from
their $10 or $15 contribution?
In conclusion I urge everyone to vote yes for SUB.
Science I
Editor, The Ubyssey:
While I am in favor of the
SUB as described in the student union special Oct. 29, I
am still confronted with two
important questions.
1. What happens to Brock
if the SUB is given the go-
2. If it is not torn down
why are their duplications of
several Brock Hall facilities
included in the SUB.
I submit that such duplications are expensive and unnecessary.
Will the SUB committee
please justify their decision
on the matter?
Arts  II.
The SUB answers from Scott
I would like to deal with
several questions raised in
letters   to   the   editor.
One writer asks, "Why are
there duplications of several
Brock Hall facilities included
in those of the SUB?". In
fact, only a few facilities are
involved and even these are
really not duplications, but
changes in location. People
using these facilities should
be drawn into the mainstream
of the student community
and for that reason these facilities are included in the
The SUB is intended to
give student activity and student interests a focal point
so that a common meeting
ground for the social and intellectual growth of the individual will be available. We
will then have a university in
the truest sense of the word,
and not merely a collection of
isolated schools.
In a somewhat emotional
tirade from the pen of another
writer, we are asked, "Why
should Brock be turned over
to the administration?" In
the first place, it would be a
selfish and needless waste for
us to retain a facility that we
could not properly utilize.
The SUB will provide the
necessary facilities for student activity and Brock will
thus be surplus to our requirements. It will not, however,
be surplus to the requirements of the university as a
whole. Its use by the university for such things as an office block for professors and
a centre for the extension department is both logical and
acceptable  to  students.
It is also argued that we
have paid for this building
and therefore we should
either retain it or if we give
it to the university, we should
demand some payment for it.
This is not a valid argument.
We contributed less than
half the cost of these facilities,    the    balance    being
. . . the SUB answers
matched in money supplied
mainly  by   the  university.
Also, we must bear in mind
that the university has contributed for more by way of
operating grants used for the
maintenance and upkeep of
Brock Hall than we originally
contributed in the form of
capital. The university now
has title to this building and
of course should retain this
title and make proper use of
the building.
One might, however, say
that the university is in fact
buying the Brock if one considers that the $340,000 students put into Brock will be
repaid in less than three
years by the $125,000 a year
that the university has guaranteed towards the operating
costs of the new student
union building.
Another argument often
raised concerning the levy for
buildings is that we shouldn't
vote for something we are not
going to use or that we feel
our group isn't going to use.
This argument is not valid
when one considers that if
only the athletically-minded
students had voted for the
student levies that have gone
into the provision of playing
fields, the Winter Sports
Centre and the Memorial
Gymnasium, then these would
have undoutedly gone down
to defeat and no one would
have had the use of them.
Finally, let me turn to a
letter from Mr. Lockwood.
When this letter is stripped of
its colorful language and
questionable statistics it seems
to present an insoluable dilemma to those of us who believe this university deserves
more support and who also
believe in the SUB.
The implication is that the
SUB must bow to the other
needs of the university. If
this were in fact, the alternative, I would find the decision
very hard to make. However,
we must recognize that while
there is a SUB proposal before us there is no proposal
before us to contribute money
towards academic facilities
and furthermore there has
never been such a proposal
before us.
Although this point of
view has been raised again
and again, no one putting it
forward has done more than
that. We must reject this argument as in fact defeat of the
SUB would not contribute
money to academic facilities.
There are two worthwhile
causes put forward here. We
should consider each one on
its merits as it arises and I,
for one, would fully support
a referendum to put money
into academic facilities, in
addition to supporting a referendum on SUB. Please, Mr.
Lockwood, suit your actions
to your words. There are
many of us who would support a realistic proposal to
contribute towards the university's development. However, one cannot help but resent the posing of false dilemma such as the one put forward in your letter.
AMS president. Tuesday, November 19,  1963
Page 5
NEW DENTISTRY BUILDING, shown in architect's sketch, will be built at corner of University
Boulevard and Wesbrook Crescent. Building, announced Monday by President John
Macdonald, will cost $2 million. It will house teaching, research and clinical facilities.
It is to open in Sept., 1965.
At opposite ends
SUB form axis
(Continued from Page 1)
The new plan will make the main mall the major north-
south axis of the campus, while the main east-west axis will
| be along the road between the
(Continued fram Page 1)
competition, it might be difficult to retain the present site
and the traffic and financial
concessions which the students
now have).
(A campus-wide referendum
on the $5 increase will be held
Said Scott: "We appreciate
the concern of the board' with
regard to the financing of SUB
that has prompted them to require $15 per year financing,
however this should not be the
key to our decision on the matter.
"If we approve the building
at the present $10 (30-year)
level, we will negotiate with
them to see if the bulding can
be financed on that basis".
Scott said he did not and
would not take the statement
as a directive.
"It is a guideline, really.
They are concerned about the
economic situation and the $1.5
million in interest which the
shorter-term plan would save."
The board's letter also stated
the administration would increase its grant to SUB for
food service facilities more
than $100,000, from $775,000
to $881,360..
The admini s t r a t i o n also
# To provide maintenance
and services in the new SUB,
as it does in Brock Hall, in return for use of the building
during seminars, conferences,
and for other university functions.
# That no academic buildings would be constructed between the SUB site and the
proposed bus and car pool loop
at University Blvd. and East
# That future student parking areas would be between
Wesbrook Crescent, Lower
Mall, Agronomy Rd., and the
Tenth Ave. extension.
Access to the transportation
loop and location of the parking lots will increase considerably student pedestrian traffic
in front of the SUB.
present forestry and civil engineering buildings, extending east between the library
and the physics-chemistry
The administration building will be at west end of axis
and the proposed student
union  building at the  east.
The "academic core" principle will keep the campus
from sprawling and make it
possible for students to get
from one class to the other
within the present seven-minute break, Porter said.
• •    •
It will also mean students
won't have to walk any further
than  necessary   in   the   rain.
"We're also investigating the
possibility of covered walkways between certain buildings," Porter said.
"Students need not fear that
this concentration will result
in all the campus green areas
disappearing. We consider the
maintenance of grassy areas of
prime importance in our planning.
"All the patioed malls will
contain planted areas, and it
is likely that the lawns in
front of the library and the
old arts building will remain.
Traffic and parking are one
of the major planning problems, Porter said.
• •    •
"In 1962-63 there were about
12,000 cars a day moving in
and out of the campus and
most of these movements take
place in one hour in the morning.
"By 1966-67 we estimate
this number will be up to
Porter said a partial solution to the number of cars on
the campus might lie in a
rapid-transit cross-town bus
service, perhaps along Broadway.
There will be at least one
beneficial side effect of the
building program. Most of the
huts that have been 'temporarily" decorating the campus
since the end of the last war
will disappear.
Drink beer
have fun
— theologian
KINGSTON (CUP) — Theology students should live it up
a little according to an American theologian.
William Hordern, a professor at Garrett Theological
Sanctuary in Illinois, said
theology students should show
the rest of the cahipus they
are not the third sex.
"They should drink beer
with other students and mix
in the general life of the university," he said.
"It is possible to be both intelligent and a Christian."
Horden warned students,
however, not to do research
in sin.
Gutted by fire
gutted the sixth floor of Loyola
College administration building and destroyed a valuable
collection of Eskimo carvings
last week.
Magistrate concerned
Campus drinkers
court trouble
Drinking offences involving university students are on
the increase in the university area, magistrate M. E. Ferguson
said Monday.
"The liquor situation is becoming a real concern to me,"
Ferguson said.
Ferguson is manager of the
endowment lands as well as
"Cases are definitely on the
increase in this area.
"It's getting to the point
where we should give the issue special attention," he said.
He said the cases involve
local high school students as
well as UBC students.
And another Vancouver
magistrate Cyril White, is
alarmed when UBC students
come before him.
"Every time I see one I feel
he shouldn't be here," said
White. "Students are the leaders of the future and should
lead an exemplary life."
The magistrate was quoted
in the downtown press as
saying: "It rather concerns
me, the number of university
students coming before me in
the last month. It shows a
complete disregard for law
and order."
White told The Ubyssey he
was concerned about university students, but he said his
statement about law and order specifically referred to
Halloween rowdiness not UBC
students, as the papers inferred.
"In total actual numbers,
the number of university students appearing before me is
very small," he said.
White's   comments   followed
(Continued from Page 1)
average of less than 40 cents
per student.
"We must consider what
CUS is doing with the .money,
if we want to spend the money
for this purpise, and' if the
money is available," said Scott.
Mary Lee Magee, past
NFCUS chairman at UBC. said
several other western universities are considering upping
their levies.
"It was a general trend at
the Edmonton Congress," she
Scott said CUS has already
proved itself and shows promise for the future.
"CUS is now doing a better
job than was done before. The
changes at this year's Congress
alone are evident of what has
been done in the past year."
EDITOR: Mike Hunter
Associate Keith Bradbury
New*   Dave Ablett
Managing .... George Railton
City   Mike Horsey
Photo   Don Hume
Critics      Ron  Riter
Sports    Denis Stanley
Asst. News .... Tim Padmore
Asst. City .... Richard Simeon
Senior Donna Morris
Senior   Maureen Covell
Goclsell, Alvin Eeetball, Mike
Vaux, Left Guard, Don Hull,
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Shore, Grey Cup and brothers Al
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if tlie Lions lose the next two
frames to Repina and all those
H.C. Lions slogans stenciled on
Vancouver's   streets   are   wasted.
Graduates who've been out a few years say the important things to
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Tuesday,  November  19,   1963
Says missionary
Contact with God
comes from spirit'
Experience and  reason cannot prove the existence of
God, a leading missionary and educator said Friday.
Rev. Derek Prince told 600
students at a Varsity Christian
Fellowship meeting that knowledge of God can be attained
only by revelation through the
Bible and the Holy Spirit.
"The intellect does not
apprehend divine truth," he
said, "If you want to get in
touch with God, you have to
make contact with the Holy
"Ultimately," he said, "the
scientist depends on his senses
and his memory. Here is an
entirely different avenue of information—the Spirit of God."
Many people, he said, believe university life is responsible for the loss of Christian
faith among students.
This   is  because  many   stu-
Victoria also
has sun problem
Roads cadets who stole a
sundial from the campus of
Victoria College had the
last laugh.
RCMP officers caught them
and made them return it.
But they put the 500-
pound sundial back backwards.
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their faith, he said.
"Faith is based on facts," he
said, "If your faith is based on
tradition or feeling, you may
lose it.
It's not a bad thing if you
"Christianity, is not merely
a dogma forced on you independent of experience. It is
confirmed by experience. Once
it is put practically to the test,
it works."
Harvard prof blasts
orgynization'  men
NEGRO AUTHOR James Baldwin who was awarded
honorary degree at UBC's
fall congregation failed to
show up for a fine arts festival at McMaster University.
Festival committee said it
forgot to get written confirmation from Baldwin.
CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (Cup)
—Reports of wild parties and
freewheelindg sexual intercourse in residence have
shaken Harvard University.
The changes were made in
a report by Harvard professor
Dr. Graham Blaine.
He said "Orgiastic parties"
were leading the university to
outright scandal.
Under college rules men may
entertain women in their
rooms as late as 12 at night.
Girls at Radcliffe, the women's college which shares classrooms with Harvard, are allowed to have men in their
rooms a total of 25 hours a
Radcliffe President Mary
Bunting   said,"   There   is   no
cause for concern about the
activities of Radcliffe girls."
Blaine said the liberal rules
encouraged pre-marital relations and that 50 per cent of
the college women were no
longer virgins.
Harvard men say things
aren't as bad as Blaine says.
Red draws cheers
The second communist to speak
here since the lifting of a ban
on communist speakers drew
applause from students for his
criticism of the former Diem
regime  in  Viet  Nam.
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Lees surrender
To UBC on march
UBC's   powerful   Thunderbird    soccer   team    recorded   its
eighth   straight   victory   by   defeating   the   Robert   Lees   5-1,
Saturday afternoon at McGinnis field.
^^^^^^^^^e^^^^^^t*       It was their ninth win in ten
EDITOR: Denis Stanley
Layout: Bill Willson
land new
puck punch
Father Bauer's Olympic
hockey team learned the
meaning of "scoring punch"
over the weekend without
being kayoed in the process.
The Olympic team, who
previously became puck shy
when they approached the
net, outscored their opponents 44-10.
Other accomplishments
included six victories and
one tie against Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Northwestern Ontario teams.
Sunday, they defeated
Lakehead All-Stars of the
Thunder Bay Senior Hockey
League 6-3 before 2,600 fans
in Fort William.
Bauer's boys scored 12
goals, their high mark for
the trip, against Pla Mors
Friday. Goalie Ken Broderick recorded his third shutout of the tour.
Ray Cadieux set the pace
for the Olympics with a hat
games and increased the defending champion Birds' first-
place lead in the Mainland
Senior Soccer League's top
division to three points.
T-Bird goals were scored by
five different members of the
well-balanced forward line.
Speedster, Jimmy Berry,
playing inside - left, scored"
once when he raced on goal
and punched the ball over the
Lee goalie's head.
Centre-forward Jim Jamison
added another goal from a
scramble in front of the net,
while Bobby Johnston scored
a third on a passing play from
Other goals were netted by
substitute goalies Don Carry,
playing ably at forward, and
outside-left Dicky Mosher.
Stalwart goalie, George
Hrenmikoff, lost his shutout in
the final minute of play on a
penalty kick. He made the
initial save, but couldn't
gather the rebound.
A deciding factor in the
game was a strong wind which
UBC mastered by using short,
crisp passes while the Lees,
using longer passes, lost the
ball repeatedly.
UBC won the Cup last year
and will defend it when they
enter the first round of competition in two weeks.
"We are hoping to have a
successful run on the Imperial
Cup," commented UBC coach
Joe  Johnson.
Upset Queens 25-7
Edmonton grabs
East-West title
University of Alberta Golden Bears won the Canadian
Intercollegiate championship with a 25-7 upset of the Queen's
University Golden Gaels in the Golden Bowl game in Edmon-
_______^_   ton, Saturday,
Volleyball.—Men's Thunderbird Volleyball team defeated
Vancouver YMCA's second
"A" team in their opening
match Thursday in War Memorial Gym.
Scores for the match were
15-9,   6-15,  15-4 and  15-12.
•    •    •
Weightlifling UBC  lifters
broke two records Saturday in
the  B.C.   Open Power Meet.
Manager-Coach, Andy Hinds,
won the 148-pound class setting two B.C. Open records.
Hinds squatted 320 pounds
and made a deadlift of 505
Team mate, 123 pound
George Tsoi-a-Sue, squatted
230 pounds and recorded a
deadlift  of  310  pounds.
Alberta had been ranked
sixth in the nation for most
of the season by the Ryerson
Athletic Service. Queens was
rated top squad in Canada.
Edmonton was the only
WCIAA team listed in the service.
In this the first east-west
playoff in Canadian college
football for four years, the
Bears were never in trouble,
as they held the Gaels to a
converted touchdown.
Queens, Ontario-Quebec Athletic Association champs, averaged four majors a game in
conference play.
Alberta quarterback Garry
Smith fired 16 completed
passes in 26 attempts, for 226
Alberta beat out the UBC
Thunderbirds for western conference honors. U of A's winning margin over the Gaels is
the same as in their victories
against UBC.
. . . second title?
Braves take
Elders 72-48
Displaying blistering offensive punch, the UBC freshmen
Braves coasted to an easy 72-48
victory over the inept Mormon
Elders, Friday in War Memorial   Gym.
It was 30-20 Braves at the
half before the UBC scoring
machine went to work. Braves
pumped home 42 points in the
second half, many on a devastating fast-break.
Guard Don MacDonald of
Abbotsford led the way for
Braves, garnering 15 points
mostly on jump shots.
John Campbell, lean guard
from John Oliver High, hit for
11 points and Prince of Wales'
Bill Humphries scored ten for
UBC bags championship
in Northwest tourney
UBC's Women's Grasshockey team won six games
in the Northwest Collegiate Grasshockey Tournament last
They beat six universities in the team competition
held in Ellensburg, Washington.
UBC beat University of Washington 2-1, Victoria
College 3-1, Western Washington State College 3-1, University of Oregon 6-0, University of Idaho 1-0, and
Oregon State College 4-0.
High scorer for UBC was Elizabeth Philpot. Meredith Adshead and Diane Oswald, members of the 1963
Canadian Women's Field Hockey team, also led the
forward attack. *
This is the second year in succession that UBC has
won all their games in the annual tournament.
Bird Wheez-ards
gasp to 3-3 tie
The UBC Thunderbird hockey team gasped its way to
a 3-3 tie with the Powell River Regals Saturday night in the
first game of the Blackball Cup series.
Playing before  500 enthusi
astic Powell River fans, the
T-Birds displayed an exciting
wide-open style of hockey until the final period.
Their lack of conditioning
caught up with them and they
managed only seven shots on
the Regal's goal in the final
Bird scorers were all-star
centre Peter Kelly with two,
and four-year veteran Bob
Parker with one.
Jack Harris was in goal for
the first two periods, while
Brian Wallace replaced him for
the last period. Coach Dennis
Selder credited both with
strong performances which
kept the game close.
Selder pointed out that the
Birds have only been training
for two weeks, while Powell
River has played several
Kelly's first goal in the first
period came at the tail end of
a fast passing play from Ralph
Lortie and Ken Cairns and was
fired home from point-blank
UBC's second goal was
scored in the second period
when Parker slipped the puck
through a maze of legs past
the Regal netminder.
The Birds' final goal came
when Cairns stole the puck
from behind the Powell River
net and passed it to Kelly waiting alone in front of the goal.
Sailors second
Sailing Team.—UBC Sailing
Team placed second in a weekend race against eight universities from the Pacific Northwest.
University of Washington
beat the defending champions,
UBC, in the 15-race series.
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fween classes
Tuesday,  November  19,  1963
Panel studies woman's role
A four member psmel will
discuss "Woman's Role in Society after University" today
noon in Brock Lounge. The
panel, a Women's Week event,
consists of Dr. McGregor, Dr.
Eliot, Dean McCrae, and Mrs.
• •    •
The Debating Union takes on
the AWS to resolve that a
woman's BA spells Mrs., Wednesday noon in Brock Lounge.
• •    •
Due to AWS Women's Week,
there will be no Last Lecture
this week. Mr. Adrian Marriage speaks November 26.
• •    •
Morning coffee with Dalton
K. Camp, National chairman of
the Progressive Conservative
party, 7:45 a.m., Wednesday,
in the Lounge, Law Building.
• •    •
Rehearsal tomorrow night, 6
p.m. in Bu. 104.
• • •
Prof. Harold Floreen will
speak on "Vital Hebrew Insights into the Nature of Reality", today noon in Bu. 104.
Professor Floreen is the principal of the Saskatoon Lutheran Seminary.
• •    •
Meeting Wednesday at 7:30
p.m. in the Brock TV Lounge.
Professor fired
DETROIT (CUP)—A professor of English at Mercy College, A. J. Shelton, was fired
for assigning a text his superiors described as pornographic.
The book was I. A. Richards'
The Meaning of Meaning.
. . . Hebrew insights
General meeting today noon
in Bu 217. There will be a report on the National Conference.
• *    •
Dr. D. Williams will give an
illustrated talk on Dermatology, Wednesday noon in Wes.
• •    •
"Climbing In The Alps,"
Wednesday noon, Bio. Sci.
• *    •
Tickets are on sale at the
Curling Club for the party
Saturday, Nov. 23.
• •    •
A conservation group will
meet today noon in Bu. 2218.
• •    •
W. Schumacher, student intern at Bellingham, Washington, speaks on "What Do You
Mean, the Church?", Wednesday noon, Bu. Ext. 3202.
• •    •
'The Art and Science of Living", a talk by Richard Thomp-
Robson to throw blast
for waltzers, twisters
Robson House is throwing a blast for the Campus
Friday, from 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. in the Common Block a
quartet called the DeVilles will provide entertainment and
music for campus twisters, rockers and waltzers.
Cost is 50 cents per person or the special rate of $1 for
couples. All are welcome.
1964 Graduates
Commerce, Business Administration,
Finance or Economics
Taxation Officers and
Dominion Customs Appraisers
Department of National Revenue
Office of the Auditor General
A SELECTION TEAM will be on campus to interview
graduates interested in these positions on
Visit Your Placement Office TODAY and
Register for an Interview
son,  MA,  Cambridge, Wednesday noon in Bu. 221.
• •    •
Rev. J. Watts speaks today
noon, Bu. 212 on "Demands of
Discipleship"; also Wednesday
noon, on "Pentecostal Experience".
• •    •
Miss M. Dwyer will speak on
"Librarianship in Music and
Fine Arts", today noon in rm.
861, Library, south wing.
• •    •
Meeting noon today, Bu. 202.
Positions of PRO and social
chairman to be chosen from
the floor, important for the
early organization of grad class
LOST: Umbrella, auto., with
white markings and initials on
handle last week, 3:45 p.m.—vicinity of Wesbrook or car I hitchhiked in. Call Dennis,  OA  4-6355.
FOR SALE: 1955 red classic M.G.
convertible racing tires, new
top, good running order. AM 1-
3023,   daytime.
STOLEN: Oct. 6 from Wes. 103,
brown brifcase containing all my
notes plus Chem. 210 text and
Zoo. 202 labs. Information? Call
Bob,   CA   4-7462.
4 students
win awards
Awards totalling $300 have
been made to four UBC students in the school of music.
Michael Purves-Smith won
the Eileen R. Gilley Soropti-
mist Award of $100 for first-
year   piano  students.
Another $100 award was received by third-year vocalist
Judith Lamb.
Two $50 scholarships were
awarded to John Gomez and
Brenda J. Sneed, both of Vancouver.
M: Have taken heart. Faith in human nature partially restored.
To complete job, return wallet.
S.   P.   J.	
FOR SALE: MGA fibreglass
hardtop (wihite)—best offer.
Also, 500 cc A.J.S. motorcycle,
$200 and parts. RE 1-2850 (evenings).
WANTED: Person to carry away
vast sums of money! First year
engineering   Grey   Cup   Pool.
RIDE WANTED: For 8:30 to 5:30
classes Monday to-Fridav. 38th
and MacKenzie. Phone Debbie,
AM   6-2608.
or two roomates (male) for attractive basement suite. Many
facilities provided. $50 for one,
$40 for two. Call Dennis, AM 1-
LOST: Brown briefcase containing
all my notes, four texts. Return
to Chem. 272 or phone 224-5924.
FOR SALE: Good radio and "neat"
glass roof. Goes with '54 Ford.
Not much class, lots of personality. Phone CA 8-8929, Eleaner
FINDER of illustrated book on
Pushkin in Bu. 2244 please return to Wainman, Slavonics office,   Bu.   469.
CHRISTMAS GIFT: 1953 Vanguard 4-cyl., city-tested, overhauled.   $250  or offer,  CA  4-9068.
LOST: Would person who took
my raincoat from College Library Nov. 12, between 12 and
12:30 p.m. please phone Steve
at  RE   8-9801.   I   have   yours.
FOR SALE: Good parts from recently-wrecked Morris Minor. Excellent buy. A practically new
ragtop is going cheaply. Phone
Ole   Bentzen,   CA   4-7741.
FOR SALE: Skis, 220 cm.^Kneis-
sel Kanone downhills, $65; 205
em. Kastle Metal slaloms, $80;
205 cm. Kneissel giant slaloms,
$55.   Phone   Gary,   WA   2-2589.
LOST: Educ. 203 notes in old Ed.
building. Urgently needed. If
found, phone AM  6-8874.
LOST: Penney's reversible raincoat
in Brock, night of Nov. 14.
Finder please return to Gary in
Robson   224 or  phone  CA   4-9064.
WANTED: One copy history 407
text, "Modern German History,"
(Flenly). Call Tim, CA 4-1457,
WOULD the person who borrowed
my bicycle (man's black, Dutch
make) please return it to where
he found it. Buchanan Building,
middle   wing.
EXPERT TYPIST: Will type any-
thing. Phone Barbara at 733-5300.
WILL the person who removed my
Chem. 300 book from library
shelves between 11:30 and 1:30
on Nov. 13 replace it or phone
LA 1-8762. I have mid terms ,too.
FOR SALE: As much money as you
need for 25 cents. First year en-
gineering,   Grey  Cup  Pool.
for the Preservation of Campus
Gears urgently requires new
members. For additional information   call   Dennis   at   985-4057.
Volunteers   Needed
Men and Women (both faculty and
students can assist.
Mrs. Francis Russell
CA 4-4470 (evenings please)


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