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 Kenny rejects
park fantasies
By JULIE WHEELWRIGHT
UBC student senators spoke out
again. ,t the proposed 58 acre
research park Wednesday night, but
administration president Doug Kenny told them their fears were only
fantasies.
Kenny fielded questions from
student senators and said
charges that the public had not been
notified about the park and that it
would lure qualified professors
away,from the university were unwarranted.
He said the park proposal was
announced almost two years ago
and although there were no public
hearings, "the park has been no
state secret."
Kenny said the people of the
university endowment lands knew
what was being planned the whole
time.
Student senator Doug Watts
questioned whether the park would
lure professors away from the
university.
But Kenny said, "this is a fear
that doesn't have a root in reality.
The fear that suddenly the universi-
Math profs slam
glowing report
By JULIE WHEELWRIGHT .
Some UBC math professors remain convinced the mathematics
annex was an . unsafe, forgotten
waste dump, despite a recent administration report denying the
charges.
Two weeks ago 22 math professors wrote to UBC's radioisotopes and radiation hazards
committee calling for a complete
description of what the math annex
had been used for in the past.
The report written late last month
refutes allegations that the math annex was a forgotten site and there
was a health hazard.
But Norman Goldstein, who
works in the math office directly
above the basement room, said he is
not convinced by the report.
"There's still some concern
about what people have been exposed to. I've looked at the report and
I can't tell how complete the listing
is, it wasn't really answering
everything we asked for," he said.
But committee chairman Robert
Morrison said the radiation levels in
the math annex were not harmful,
even though they were 14 times
higher than normal.
"I think a lot of people are getting hysterical about nothing," he
said.
The report also responded to
concerns the math professors had
about the placement of a radiation
hazards sign.
It stated that the warning symbol
was placed on the basement door
and that to have placed it on the entrance to the basement would have
been inappropriate.
But Morrison said it was not
posted the way he would have done
it, though it did comply with federal
regulations.
The possibility of establishing a
permanent disposal facility on campus was also mentioned in the
report.
Bill Rachuk, UBC's radiation
protection and pollution control officer, said the university is already
looking for a safer, more central
location for the disposal of waste
materials.
"We have 150 labs on campus
and we have it (radioactive waste)
scattered hither and yon and it's a
difficult housekeeping job. But
something is on its way fairly soon
and people are working on it," he
said.
The report stated that radiation
levels absorbed from wearing a
wrist watch with a luminiscent dial
or the exposure from a chest x-ray
are higher than the doses of radiation received by the professors in
the room directly above the basement.
THE UBYSSEY
Vol. LXII, No. 13
Vancouver, B.C. Thursday, October 11, 1979
228 2301
ty will just have research profs is
totally unwarranted. The central
mission of the university isn't going
to change."
If students came up with a plan
for more efficient use of the university land it would be considered,
said Kenny.
"If students came up with a
scheme rooted in reality we'd certainly look at it. We might not buy-
it, but we'd look at it," he said.
Student senator Peter Fry asked
Kenny if the park's proposed board
of management would have student
representatives.
Kenny said the merits of student
representation "would be looked
at."
Student senator Chris Niwinski
said if the research park were
sucessful it would be inevitable that
it would be expanded onto land
next to the current site, which is
part of the endowment lands.
But Kenny said there has been no
discussion on the part of the university about expanding into the endowment lands.
See page 3: PARK
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— yvan fortin photo
SPLIT PERSONALITY STUDENT finds novel technique for disposing of unwanted headache. Student
discovered small "black hole" on concourse above Sedgewick library and quickly took advantage of instant pain
relief. But solution had several drawbacks. When itch developed behind left ear, hand was unable to bridge
spacetime continum. And new appearance did not appear to mirror student's perception of self.
Sierra suits up for beach hearings
won't be reading the actual briefs at
the meetings," he said. "We want
discussions."
The hearings will be held on three
days, Nov. 8, 9 and 10.
"The first evening, the authors of
the report (Swan Wooster
Engineering Co.) will be available
for discussion of the master plan,"
Weston said. He added that the
Wreck Beach committee report will
be the major topic of discussion the
second night.
"On the Saturday, any other submissions will be considered."
Some environmentalists are
satisfied with a decision by UBC's
board of governors to hold public
meetings to discuss the Wreck
Beach erosion control project.
The Sierra Club says it is pleased
with board member Stanley
Weston's approach to public input
on the controversial project.
"We see it as a real step ahead,"
Sierra Club spokeswoman Anna
Buffinga said Wednesday. "The
Sierra Club is pleased that this step
has been taken."
Buffinga said that although the
club has not yet prepared a submis
sion for the public hearings, they
will be having further discussions to
determine their position on the project. "We're just waitng to see how
it's developing," she said.
The public hearings will try to
discuss submissions from all people
interested in the Wreck Beach proposal, Weston said Wednesday.
"We're looking for any and all
suggestions from people who are
concerned," he said. "They may
have some ideas that are useful."
Weston said the hearings will not
run on a strictly formal basis. "We
— matt king photo
"HI, MOM. Remember those warm fuzzy socks you knitted for me? They sure keep my feet cosy in the library
where I study all the time. How's school? Fine, except I can't remember where I left my notebook . . ."
Trash turns into cash
By GEOF WHEELWRIGHT
UBC's nuclear research facility has found a way to turn nuclear "garbage" into money.
Atomic Energy of Canada Ltd. will soon be conducting a multi-million
dollar commercial medical radioisotope business using radioactive proton
beam waste from UBC's Tri-University Meson Facility.
And TRIUMF is planning to get a piece of the corporate profits too.
Under the terms of an agreement between TRIUMF and the crown corporation, a specified percentage of profits from isotope sales will be
guaranteed to TRIUMF in the form of research grants.
TRIUMF director Jack Sample said the project is costing them nothing
and provides an effective use for their excess energy from a radioactive proton beam, which is currently disposed of at a "beam dump" — a concrete
container which absorbs the beam's energy.
"We're not taking any financial risk at all. our beam is essentially a
waste product," he said.
The crown corporation facility is being built in front of one of the beam
dumps and will make use of a large amount of its "waste energy."
See page 3: WASTE Page 2
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THE    UBYSSEY
Page 3
Nuclear energy very
sticky issue at SFU
'Nukes too costly'
lyssey special report
Nuclear energy is not
economically feasible and will cost
more than it will produce, anti-
nuclear activist Gordon Edwards
told 100 people Wednesday at
Simon Fraser University.
Said Edwards, the chairman of
the Canadian Coalition for
Nuclear Responsibility, "the
nuclear industry is a welfare case.
The industry is not economical.
It's on the skids."
Edwards said that although
relatively cheap energy can be gotten   from  uranium,  the  cost   to
dispose of the waste makes it an
impractical process.
"The lowest estimated cost for
disposing the waste is $500
million. The highest estimate is
$18 billion."
Edwards pointed out that currently the uranium mining companies have no obligation, other
than a moral one, to dispose of
the waste.
"The uranium companies have
the right to commit random
murder on any anonymous individual who lives or works near a
mine," he said. "The chairman of
the U.S. Atomic Regulatory
Commission, Victor Golinsky,
has admitted that the number one
health hazard is uranium waste."
The only hope for world peace
is alternate energy sources, Edwards said. "There are options
that do not threaten world peace
or leave behind the legacy
uranium mining has left behind."
Edwards also criticized the lack
of action taken in Canada against
violations of safety regulations at
nuclear plants and uranium
mines.
"The inadequacies of Ontario
nuclear reactors are very well
documented," said Edwards.
"Their solution is not how we can
make them safe, but instead how
we can skirt around it and make a
few cosmetic changes."
He said people have to become
more involved in decision-making. "It is absolutely essential that
we regain control of the political
process, so politicians will listen to
us and not to groups with special
interests. People have to seize
responsibility."
Edwards also criticized the
royal uranium commission, headed by David Bates, who was the
preceding speaker.
"The uranium commission is
doing its best not to face up to important issues. There are issues
that go beyond the nit-picking
issues the commission is dealing
with," he said.
"Despite the respect I have for
Dr. Bates, I don't think he knows
he is being used."
Uranium chairman gets creamed in debate
The chairman of the royal commission on uranium mining in
B.C. defended the commission
Wednesday from allegations that
it was being heavily influenced by
corporations and the provincial
government.
David Bates, former UBC dean
of medicine, spoke to 125 people
at Simon Fraser as part of a
nuclear awareness week being held
until Saturday.
"The government does not
influence a royal commission once
it has been established," Bates
said. "We consider ourselves independent."
Bates was responding to statements made by members of the
audience that the commission was
a "puppet of the government and
the corporations."
A person from the American
Indian movement also said he was
denied the opportunity to ask
questions of uranium companies,
and that questions had to first be
approved by the commission.
Bates did not dispute his claim,
but said the commission only approved questions during
"technical hearings" dealing with
exploration for uranium.
The commission started
technical hearings last week and
will continue them until late
January. Among the topics will be
exploration, mining, disposal and
health protection.
During the question period
Bates was hit on the side of the
head by a whipped cream pie,
thrown by a woman who had apparently been in attendance at
some of the commission's hearings.
"1 think this kind of protest
does no good at all," Bates said,
as he continued fielding questions.
Bates said the commission will
visit Australia and Saskatchewan
next spring to observe uranium
mining practies in those areas.
"Like B.C., Australia is facing
an intense world demand for
uranium," said Bates. "They are
very    proud    of   their    health
measures.
The open pit uranium mines at
Cruyff Lake and Rabbit Lake in
Saskatchewan will also be visited.
Bates said his commission has
been hampered by the lack of data
available on uranium mining hazards. "I believe a scientist's role is
that before they make a political
decision they must know the data.
Neither group (on either side of
the uranium issue) has reliable
data."
He also compared the people involved on either side of the
uranium issue. "The vocal components of industry arid the environment groups are the same,"
he said. "I don't belong to either
The commission was formed in
January, 1978 and was asked to
examine safety and health standards and make recommendations
on them.
An interim report released in
September recommended a licensing procedure for uranium exploration that would include strict
guidelines and regulations. The
commission also suggested the
development of a province-wide
radiation observation network.
None of those proposals will be
implemented until the commission
completes iis report. Bates expects
the report to be finished by
September, 1980.
Quebec diplomas
still provide jobs
— jim steel photo
OFFERING QUICK PRAYER before reducing assailant to rubble, instructor Alice MacPherson demonstrates
wen-do technique of self defence to Susan Woolley in program sponsored by women's committee. Subsequent
move doesn't cleave attacker's nose in half but actually brings victim's elbows down on grasping arms, breaking
grip effectively. Then, one can cleave nose in half.
OTTAWA (CUP) — A university
degree'is still the best bet in finding
a steady job, according to a study
by the Quebec government of the
province's university graduates.
Following a survey of 4,600 persons who earned degrees in 1975,
• the province's education department concluded that it was still true
that the longer a person stays in
school the better the chances of finding and keeping a lucrative job.
The Quebec graduates were surveyed at the beginning of 1978.
Unemployment rates for women
were twice as high as those for men
and a far higher proportion of
women held part-time jobs.
'Park won't
spill to UEL'
From page 1
"The present policy is that the
park won't expand into the endowment lands. The government has
said it won't turn the endowment
lands into an industrial park," he
said.
But Kenny added that a change in
governments could reverse government policy on the research park.
Fry asked Kenny what the university community could do if objective research was conducted in the
park.
"We did spell out the safeguards
and guidelines for the tenants on
the endowment land. One has to
rest assured the university is interested primarly in teaching
research," Kenny said.
The authors of the survey said
their findings refute the growing
criticism that four or more years of
university education were not worth
the price in straight dollar terms.
'Waste not.
want not1
From page 1
"It will be a multi-million dollar
industry and they (AECL) are going
to be pouring money into research
at TRIUMF," said UBC administration vice-president Erich
Vogt.
He said the $3.5 million isotope
production facility, currently under
construction adjacent to TRIUMF,
will make medical radioisotopes for
sale to pharmaceutical companies.
Vogt said neutron-poor isotopes,
such as Iodine 123, will allow doctors to diagnose thyroid conditions
while exposing patients to 100 times
smaller radiation doses in the
testing than current procedures.
But TRIUMF director Jack Sample said the money from isotope
sales would not come rolling in
right away. The AECL will not be
entirely in the black until some time
in the mid-eighties, although the
facility is due to begin operations
next year, he said.
Sample said the corporation must
pay its loan interest payments and
equipment costs before it can give
any money to TRIUMF, but added
that he is in no hurry for the
research money. Page 4
THE    UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 11, 1979
Hacks lap up propaganda
We've been sold out again.
It has always been obvious that student senators
have about as much influence as student board of
govenors   representatives.
So instead of standing up and protecting the student body's interests in the research park discussions,
the student senators allowed themselves to be muzzled.
That's not to say they didn't whimper a bit, and
whine across a few easy questions. But they didn't get
tough with the university's administration for not consulting students and the public about the project. And
they didn't follow up the questions they asked. They
lapped up administration president Doug Kenny's
answers faithfully.
Kenny called their questions unrealistic, and labeled
their concerns fantasies. He said any fear of the
university having only research professors after the
research park is built is unrealistic.
Who is he trying to kid? The student senators might
have been convinced, but no one else is.
A university with a research park will attrack increasingly more and more research-oriented professors. After all, it's a golden opportunity for them to
be close to the action in their fields. You can't blame
them for that.
And the university will be happy, too. After all, big-
name researchers publish lots of articles. Good publicity for the university. Plenty of prestige. Then the
university will get even more money.
Letters
But it won't help the students much. Kenny has
already said the participants-in the research park will
be selected partly on their willingness to hire students.
But which students? Maybe some of the engineering students will be able to get jobs, and maybe some
science students. But the arts faculty, the university's
largest, will likely contribute few workers to the advancement of technology.
A student senator asked Kenny if there would be
student representatives on the park's board of
management. Kenny said it would be looked at.
That's just what we need. More token student
representation on another stacked board.
Another stale biscuit for the eager young puppies.
As long as we don't bite the hand that feeds us.
Blind bleeding-hearts lead nuclear hysteria
Is nuclear power really the evil
that popular horror stories make it
out to be, the very last thing that we
need? Maybe not.
One of TRIUMF's nuclear
physicists, Karl Erdman, called the
anti-nuclear mood a case of
"energy suicide." He said that
nuclear power is the safest and most
economically feasible solution to
the present energy question, but
that the unfortunate association
with the bomb is forcing us into a
corner from which there is no
escape. That is, the anti-nuclear
emotionalism forces us into a losing
position from which we,
foreseeably, will have no opportunity to plan a future energy solution. He said, "I'm discouraged.
I'm almost beginning to think it's
too late. We have enough time in
Canada but unfortunately it's a
world problem. What do I mean by
energy suicide? Well, when the
lights start to go out, people won't
care how they get the power.
They'll accept enormous risks and a
crash program for nation-wide
nuclear reactors with inexperienced
engineers could lead to major ac*
cidents." It is high time that we
separate emotionalism from rationality, myth from fact.
As to the bomb fear, Erdman
said that it is not easy to produce a
bomb from reactor plutonium
which is geared to produce power
— "it just is not bombgrade
material." Erdman said that
nuclear power is by far safer in
terms of doing damage to people
than conventional fuels (except for
natural gas). Present nuclear reactors are sufficiently safe and, contrary to burning coal and oil, accidents have not injured or killed
anyone. The effects of fission, in
fact, are far less dangerous than
those of natural radiation. So why
all the hysteria over cancer and
leukemia risks due to radiation
leaks?
Erdman said that assuming radiation is released from a nuclear
power plant at the maximum
allowable rate, the cancer production rate per year would be
equivalent to the smoking of two
cigarettes. A one-pack-a-day
smoker is exposing himself to a
cancer production rate 3,500 times
as great as from a nuclear power
plant. (If anyone has a right to protest it is the non-smoker, not the
anti-nuclear lobbyist). The much-
dramatized Harrisburg incident
produced a radiation exposure
which, for a few people near the
plant, was equivalent in cancer production to one package of cigarettes. Of far greater significance is
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THE UBYSSEY
October 11, 1979
Published Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays throughout the university year by the Alma Mater
Society of the University of B.C. Editorial opinions are those of the staff and not of the AMS or
the university administration. Member, Canadian University Press. The Ubyssey publishes Page
Friday, a weekly commentary and review. The Ubyssey's editorial offices is in room 241K of the
Student Union Building. Editorial departments, 228-2301; Advertising, 228-3977.
Co-Editors: Heather Conn and Tom Hawthorn
As Gary Brookfield walked into the printers, he sensed something was different. "I sense something different," he told Alan Favell and Yvan Fortin, but they
were new and everything was different to them. "What is it?" he wondered, but Tom Hawthorn and Geof Wheelwright just clammed up. Glen Sanford and
Joan Marklund were still talking, but that was nothing new. Julie Wheelwright and Keith Baldrey provided no clues, but then he heard Peter Menyasz say nice
things about Heather Conn and he suddenly knew. "It's national don't-cut-down-Heather day," Dave Francis and Paul von Matt told him, while Vic Bonderoff
repressed his natural sentiments by humming fairy tales and Kevin Finnegan stopped drinking. Even Matt King found a pleasantry to utter, and Jim Steel mentioned how much he liked blue. All was sweetness and light until Verne McDonald got nauseated by the whole affair and broke the spell by scoring a direct hit
with a well-placed telephone book. Normalcy returned
that "the cancer risk due to radiation from nuclear power is a factor
of 100 times less than the cancer
risk from the carginogens released
from burning coal and oil."
Popular hysteria is sadly misplaced.
Regarding the skepticism over
burning radioactive wastes deep into the earth, Erdman points out
that we are not adding anything
foreign since the sun and its family
of planets were formed from highly
radioactive materials. In fact, the
question over possible radiation
leakage has been answered by a
natural nuclear reactor of some 100
million years ago recently found in
Gabon, Africa. The rock which
contained this uranium (which incidentally is the same rock as in the
Canadian Shield) hasn't permitted
radiation leakage from that time
until the present — a rather effective test.
Erdman stressed that the future's
crises will not come from nuclear
power, the only 'clean' source of
concentrated energy, but from the
continued use of fossil fuels and
biomass. The greatest difficulty in
the burning of coal and oil is the
production of carbon dioxide
which, due to the "greenhouse" effect, increases the average
temperature of the earth.
Foreseeable climactic effects at
the present rate of energy consumption are a sudden rise in ocean levels
which would drown most coastal
and low-lying areas, including major arable land areas so that those
dependent on cereal grain production will starve. The burning of coal
will also increase the world pollution by a factor of three by the year
2000.
As for a soft energy alternative,
Erdman said that it's great on
small-scale terms such as in homes,
but it wouldn't work on an industrial scale since more energy is
consumed in constructing solar
heating systems than is recovered.
However, he doesn't doubt that
there could be other ways found to
concentrate energy, and was quick
to say that nuclear power may not
be the final answer.
Above all, Erdman was concerned that the public understand the
issues in order to have the maximum opportunity for choice. He
was confident that an informed,
thinking public would make the
right choice. However, he said, "it
is interesting to speculate how many
people today would be willing to
spend the time required to become
knowlegeable about crucial issues."
Furthermore, "how many one-eyed
politicians exist in the world of the
blind, and how many of those who
are currently crying halt to nuclear
power have not only one eye but
two?" Clearly it would be appropriate for bleeding-hearts and
other myopic citizens to become informed before they vehemently
mouth their ignorance and consequent prejudice. Now is the time.
Monika Schmidtke Thursday, October 11, 1979
THE    UBYSSEY
Page 5
Letters
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Many thanks to
the Pit patrons
On Sept. 26, the Alma Mater
Society donated its profits from the
Pit's beer sales to the United Way.
Approximately $850 was raised, of
which $250 was donated by the
patrons. I would like to thank the
Pit staff, the Pit patrons on
Wednesday night and the following
people for their assistance in making the evening successful: Woody
Adal, Carol Lee, Jill Jewesson,
Leslie Lee, Derek Lee, Alex Polac-
co, Ester Lee, Collin Campbell,
Dave Fujisawa, Brandan Fahy,
Selina Shum, Carlotta Chuy, Nobby Akiha, Bruce Armstrong, Len
Clarke, Shirley Waters, Fran
Rigrouk, Valgeet Johl, Glenn
Wong, and Rose-Ann Jang.
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UBC student
United Way coordinator
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THE    UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 11, 1979
Gift horse is a dud
The Student Asks for Sex Change
story in the Sept. 11 issue is questionable. Although this is a somewhat difficult story to report upon
it could have been done without the
sexual stereotyping.
Everyone does not necessarily
think that being surrounded by
members of the opposite sex, or living with them in a residence situation is a "gift horse." To make that
assumption is reinforcing a stereotype. Stereotyping is harmful because it makes people feel they have
to live up to a particular image
rather than being themselves.
The Tarzan/Jane cutline under
Ihe roller skating demonstration in
the Sept. 14 issue is also offensive.
Tarzan/Jane myths only reinforce
the dominant submissive relationship between men and women. Tarzan and Jane have absolutely nothing to do with the story and are
totally inappropriate.
I hope this letter will generate
some discussion amongst your
staff.
Maureen Semchuk
WRCUP
Human Rights Coordinator
Blood gushes forth
The goal of 2,000 donors for the
fall UBC blood drive was surpased
by a record number of people
donating blood. At last week's
clinic, 2,384 people donated making
this the largest turnout since 1975.
Congratulations are in order to
the following two undergraduate
societies. First to rehabilitation
medicine for having the highest proportionate number of donors (16
Piles cause dance in seats
Last week at Monday's Fog
Night in the Pit, I had the unexpected pleasure of being exposed to
Les Turd and The Piles, an exciting
.new wave band from right here at
UBC. After the first two decent but
uninspired acts, Les Turd and The
Piles came on dressed in truly
bizarre and ouirageous outfits and
proceeded to rock as I have never
heard an amateur band do before.
They soon had the audience completely won over with their combination of tight, driving music and
wild    theatrics.    The    music    was
Administration allows no ro
The last couple of weeks have
been extremely frustrating. Every
time I pick up The Ubyssey, I see a
story on the research park (which is
fine in itself) and almost every time
I read the stories, I find that some
member of the UBC administration
is attempting to point out that the
various selections from The Cars,
Led Zeppelin, Stones and others,
played energetically and faithfully.
They had an amazing stage presence
and energy which made many people start dancing on the floor and in
their seats, singing the words to the
songs.
It was truly an entertaining evening and I'm sure they will become
one of the best new wave bands in
Vancouver if given the proper exposure.
Chris Keatle>
arts 3
students had their say on the
research park at the last senate
meeting.
This is not the case at all, and I'm
sure that each of the student
senators present at the last meeting
would concur with me on the matter. Here's what really happened:
president Kenny, during his verbal
report to senate, announced that
plans for a research park, to be
situated behind B.C. Research,
were under way. He stated that the
university was going to give up 58
acres of land for this facility. The
report also made reference to the
Hacks bash bad news bearers
During the student leadership
conference Sept. 28-30, approximately 85 students representing most
of the faculties, undergraduate societies and clubs within the Alma Mater Society, gathered together to
discuss the various areas of the
AMS. One of the areas discussed
was The Ubyssey.
As students of The Ubyssey, and
hence members of the AMS, we
would like you to be aware of the
following concerns:
• We feel The Ubyssey deals far
too much with subjects of limited
relevance  to  the  university;
• 'Tween classes and Hot
Flashes, the only way clubs and undergraduate societies can communicate with the students at large, are
far too small, and are relegated to
an insignificant section of the newspaper;
• All reporting by The Ubyssey
is strongly biased, inflammatory
and mostly incomplete. The Ubyssey seems to feel that it has the right
to censor the material presented to
the students by:
a) limiting sources used
Elephant seeks new image
As chairman of the fund raising
committee for the Asian centre, I
wish to point out an inaccuracy in
your story on the centre in
Ubyssey's Sept. 20 issue.
In referring to the $1.6 million initial budget you stated half was donated by the Japanese government.
This was not so.
The $800,000 raised in Japan
came from the Japan Federation of
Economic Organizations with a
$550,000  donation  and   from  the
Expo '70 foundation with $250,000.
In May 1981 a committee formed
by UBC's Institute of Asian Research will conduct a Canada-Asia
Conference at the Asian centre.
With such activities we want to help
provide UBC with the world image
it deserves and overcome the stigma
of what you refer to "as the campus' biggest white elephant."
Thanks for putting the record
straight on Japanese donors to the
Asian centre.
Joseph L. Whitehead
Desmond not forgotten
per cent) and second to arts for the
largest number of donors (363). The
draw for Keg dinners produced
these four winners: Vince Lrozzo,
Peter Owsanecki, Yvonne Matte,
and Ed Marchak.
Thank you to all the people who
supported this blood drive to make
it a success.
Danette Tidball
blood drive coordinator
With regards to the Dave
Brubeck interview and article, it
seems strange that when dealing
with as prolific a composer as Dave
Brubeck, interviewer Paul Hodgins
would credit him with Take Five.
This tune, the quartets'
"signature" hit single for many
years was penned by Paul Desmond.
Paul Desmond was an outstanding alto-player and the mainstay
of the Brubeck quartet for close to
20 years. Any article about Dave
Brubeck should at least mention the
superb stylist who defined (and was
buried in) the sound of the quartet
for so long.
Desmond formed his own quartet
in the early seventies but was
reunited with  Brubeck in  '75  for
Undercut babies
forestry kids
On behalf of all us kids in
forestry, we would like to sincerely
thank the Alma Mater Society for
the terrific babysitting job it did at
Undercut. We would heartily
recommend their services to all
those elementary and junior high
school principals in the lower
mainland who frown on such
disgusting practices as holding
hands and dancing close at school
dances.
We were especially gratified by
the respect the AMS showed for our
personal financial situations by
opening the bar late and closing it
early; we both saved enough for
two extra Kraft dinners this week.
As our old friend Pat McGeer used
to say, "God save those who try to
save me from myself.
Harvey Kirk
Heinrich Kotta
forestry 6
P.S. Mom was so surprised when
we got home before she did.
both a quartet 25th anniversary
tour and a duets album. Desmond's
death in 1977 closed an all too short
book on some of the most distinctive alto voices in jazz.
Norm Dadoun
computer science
b) editorializing within a "factual"
report
c) exaggerating trivia
• A number of the articles in
the recent past have viciously attacked various individuals merely to
provide "good copy." The Ubyssey
seems to feel that anyone who takes
on responsibilities and gets involved
in the university community is fair
game for cheap shots and ridicule.
The Ubyssey should be aware
that the AMS (i.e. "the students at
large") is legally responsible for any
libelous statements made by the
paper.
• The Ubyssey also seems to feel
that only bad news is worth reporting. Why can't it operate as a constructive force on campus?
The Ubyssey could better reflect
the concerns and interests of the
students by:
1) accurate, complete and honest
reporting;
2) providing the 10,000 students
actively involved in clubs, fraternities and undergraduate societies
with at least a page in every issue of
The Ubyssey, giving them the opportunity to inform other students
of their activities;
3) Limiting coverage of outside
events and increasing coverage of
campus-related events;
4) Informative coverage of campus issues. For example, let's hear
both sides of the current research
park controversy.
John Pellizzon
student administrative
commissioner
and 38 others
Bukovsky not inhuman
I allow myself a bit of conceit
here; I shall declare myself a 'person of conscience.' That should
put me on equal terms with Susan
Weir . . . er . . . almost. . .
I presume that Susan has lived
in the Soviet Union for most of
her life, which would allow her to
make such sweeping criticisms of
Vladimir Bukovsky's opinions as
she permitted herself to make, in
her Oct. 5 letter to The Ubyssey.
Anyone reading her letter, without having attended Bukovsky's
lecture, is bound to get the wrong
impression about what he had to
say-. Indeed, one would visualize,
from her description of Bukovsky, a ruthlessly inhuman propagandist attempting to brainwash
his listeners.
I didn't see a "lack of humaneness" in Bukovsky in the tone of
his speech; I saw a man trying to
relate his experience of Soviet society to the audience and to present the situation as lie saw it. No
blatant expression of dishonest
subjectivity. On the contrary, if he
had been more emotional about
things (considering the -subject
matter) I would have been more
cynical about his sincerity. •
Weir seemed ignorant of Bukovsky's true intent behind his
participation in the Soviet dissident movement. She clearly takes
too many things for granted, as a
resident of Canada: the right to
strike, the freedom of speech, the
freedom of religion, political autonomy, freedom of movement.
What is the source pf her certainty
that those freedoms exist in the
Soviet Union to a degree comparable to their existence in Canada?
Richard Brusktewkh
science 2
Stalin still alive
and well in USSR
As Vladimir Bukovsky said,
the ignorance about the Soviet
Union is appalling. An outstanding example is the scurrilous smear
against Bukovsky you published
in a letter, almost every sentence
of which is an ignorant and illogical muddle. A full analysis would
fill The Ubyssey; two points focus
on some essentials.
First, it is indeed true that Bu-
kovsky is not typical of most Soviet citizens — unfortunately. If
most of them had his courage, the
Soviet Union would not have the
massive, infringements of human
rights that it does have.
Second, the main- reason for
continuing concern about the
crimes of Stalin is that the senile
bureaucrats who rule the Soviet
Union were close accomplices of
Stalin. Under Brezhnev as under
Stalin, the basic Leninist state,
party structure and ideology have
not been changed despite the
softening that Bukovsky spoke
about. Wouldn't we be concerned if Germany were ruled by
pupils of Hitler?
Michael Futrell Thursday, October 11, 1979
THE    UBYSSEY
Page /
Drive your own coffin
)in for public input
types of research we could expect to
be going on, once the park was
established. The report was approximately 15-20 minutes long and at
the end of it Kenny asked if there
were any questions.
You can bet that there were questions! Most of the people were
shocked, as for many it was the first
mention of any kind of proposal for
a research facility on campus.
While the senators sat in a state of
shock, Kenny expressed his excitement over the issue. One of the
senators (who incidentally was not a
student) managed to compose
himself and attempted to express
his concerns. But, he was not even
given the slightest opportunity.
Once it was apparent that the
senator had a negative attitude
towards the proposed site for the
facility, he was cut off immediately,
and Kenny moved on to discuss
other matters.
After the meeting was adjourned
I took my concerns to Kenny and
few of my questions were given
what I'd consider to be adequate
answers. Others who had questions
regarding the research park had the
same encounter.
That's   what   happened,   and   I
don't see it as looking for input. It
was an announcement, not a proposal on which senate could
deliberate. It was designed to take a
good portion of the senators by surprise, so that comments wouldn't
be made. If that wasn't the intent, I
fail to understand why the issue
wasn't placed on the agenda so that
people had time think about the
matter, and also to consult their
constituencies or other groups.
I see the entire thing as an evasion
of the issue. On such a matter, people are bound to have things to say.
But, if you're not even going to give
people time to think, then input is
the last thing you're looking for.
For these reasons, and other
related concerns which people must
be aware of by now, I think it is absolutely imperative that the administration of this university live
up to its obligations and hold public
hearings, and refrain from making
announcements which give no room
for input. The public funds the institution and should have a say on
an .issue as contentious as this one.
Valgeet Johl
Alma Mater Society
external affairs officer
arts senator
Reactors rival beer
Did you know that beer may
cause cancer? Yes, that's what the
wise old scientists say. My idea as to
the possible cause of cancer would
be utterly ludicrous according to
these scientists. But, who am I to
dwell into their realm of scientific
drivel. However, I would like to
state my utterly ridiculous idea
anyway. Here goes ... do you sup-
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pose that the increase of cancer in
our society could be due to all those
tests and inventions which leak
radiation into our atmosphere?????
No, maybe I'm wrong. We all
know according to our wise scientists that cancer is caused by
grapefruits, oranges, lemons, eggs,
milk, butter, chocolate chip cookies
(so far, oatmeal and coconut chip
cookies have not been tested),
yogurt, pizzas, carrots, peas,
plants, trees, etc., etc., etc	
You know something, the one
thing that they have forgotten to include in their list is human beings . .
. but then that's stupid since we all
know that humans cannot cause or
create cancer.
Now for something closer to our
uranium glowing hearts. The outcome of a new game which will be
established in British Columbia has
been predicted to have the following score:
B.C. . . .0
Nuclear Reactors ... 1
For all those placing a bet on the
game, this is only a tentative score.
That's all for now.
Koula Rapanos
Education takes  dough
One of the most popular past-
times among students is complaining about the cost of higher education. Bah! A university education is
available to everyone. All that is required is a few thousand smackolas
— of course you won't be able to
eat, but a university education is
available to everyone.
With that in mind, it might be
useful to browse through the
university calendar, noting the
courses and faculties of special interest:
ARTS — No such faculty exists.
BOTANY — Perhaps the most
interesting courses offered on campus — which will give you some
idea of the campus.
DENTISTRY & MEDICINE —
Lectures outlining opportunities in
these professions Monday 8th,
12:30 p.m. Tee off time 12:45 p.m.
ENGINEERING — We're living
in a dangerous age boys!
PHARMACY    —    Child-proof
tops got you stymied? Advanced instructions available (see Pharmaceutical Sciences 045).
C. Sihoe
biology 4
UBC student gets
teched off at park
Discovery park will be built.
There has been much concern about
its benefits to students. I'm surprised that the obvious hasn't come up:
"Tuum est" (It's up to you . . .).
Why not student-run business
and research in the park? Why not
a "Student Technology Group?"
Don't let 'high technology' and
an apparent lack of resources scare
us off. With cooperation and imagination, much is possible. But
first, we have to try .  .  .
Anyone interested in a 'Student
Technology Group"?
Richard Bruskiewich
By ERICA LE1REN
You are driving home. It is 12 p.m. on a Saturday
night. You have your seatbelt on; after all, you are
conscientious driver. The party was great — you
drank in moderation because you realize that driving
under the influence is dangerous. But, have you
thought about this — of the cars flashing past you,
one in four is driven by someone who has been drinking. Every tenth set of headlights represents a driver
who is drunk. Completely smashed. If you are lucky,
you will be sleeping between your own two sheets
tonight and waking up to bacon and eggs in the morning. If you are not so lucky, if that tenth driver
makes his mistake in your lane, you could become a
statistic in B.C.'s book of alcohol-related Heaths or
injuries.
MM
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On May 31, 1977, the provincial ministry and the
people of British Columbia officially declared war on
impaired driving. The program, dubbed
COUNTERATTACK, is now in its second year,
after having made encouraging progress in areas such
as law enforcement and public education.
COUNTERATTACK was initiated with funds
from the Insurance Corporation of B.C. and the attorney general's office — logical financiers since
both institutions and subsequently the taxpayers
behind them, stood to benefit from any drop in
drinking-driving related expenses. The purpose of the
COUNTERATTACK program was then, and remains now, to bring about a change in the behavior
and attitudes of drivers who drink. Program
organizers and supporters are not killjoys out to
deprive society of the pleasures of wine and spirits;
however, they are of the opinion that if you drink
and drive, it's everybody's concern, not just yours!
The need for a program such as COUNTERATTACK was painfully obvious in B.C. The province,
at the program's inception, with the worst drinking-
driving accident record in the country. Here are a few
facts which underline the devastating effects of the
province's most lethal cocktail: alcohol and gasoline.
• More than 350 people were killed in B.C. in
alcohol-related traffic deaths in 1977, a 14 per cent
increase over the previous year.
• Fifty per cent of all traffic deaths have alcohol
as a factor.
• More than 45,000 people were caught driving
after drinking in 1977. That is one person for every
36 who have a B.C. driver's licence.
The problem costs the people of British Columbia
$75 million per year in insurance daims paid according to ICBC figures. Add to this a further $12
million for enforcement, court, and emergency costs,
and the figure jumps to an incredible $87 million
overall. This includes neither the costs in human
resources and to the economy of the province
through lost wages, taxes, and productivity, nor the
immeasurable cost in human life, pain, and suffering.
A shift in public attitude is necessary to decrease
the number of incidents of impaired driving. "We
have to get people to start saying they won't tolerate
it any longer," says Ron Boyle, director of the provincial Counterattack committee.
According to Boyle, the COUNTERATTACK
program, which begin in May 1977, and seat belt
legislation introduced later that year, contributed to
a 12 per cent decrease in traffic fatalities in B.C. in
1978 compared  with   1977.  Couple this with the
perspectives
emerging tendency of anti-drinking-driving programs
to focus on prevention and public education and
prevention as well as treatment of the problem, and
you will have a pretty accurate picture of the increasingly hopeful scene in B.C.
Nevertheless, it remains the responsibility of the
public to overcome apathy and to make the effort to
stop, think, and become aware of the situation. Im-
paire driving and its consequences affects all of us,
no matter which end of the problem we're on. Now
there is a point to ponder on your way out of The Pit.
Erica Leiren is a UBC first-year arts student and
publicity chair for the North Vancouver
COUNTERA TTACK committee.
It's futile to fight insults3
The Perspectives column of Sept.
27, which addressed itself to insults
against women, struck me as a singularly futile and worthless exercise.
The author had obviously lost the
perspective the space in this rag was
supposed to provide.
It cannot be denied that today's
society is going through a period of
transition concerning the role of
women. There are still obvious inequities, just as there is obviously
gradual improvement taking place.
What Ms. Gilbert, and others like
her, refuse to admit is that a change
as fundamental as she (and I) wish
to effect will take a generation or
two to work its way through. It is
ludicrous to point, as this paper
does, to the top posts and imply:
"Because the great majority in
these posts are male, discrimination
is taking place."
The discrimination took place 30
and 40 years ago when the future
professionals were receiving their
training. "We want a female Dean
of Such-and-such," demand the
fuzzy-heads. "Fine," say the
powers that be, "go find a woman
with 25 years' experience in the
field, because we've got a list of 10
male candidates here who have that
and more."
This may be frustrating, but is it
unreasonable? Isn't it just a harsh
reality that the first female Ph.Ds in
Such-and-such are going to have to
wait their decade or two? Reverse
discrimination is a godsend to the
sexist and racist propagandists,
therefore I cannot condone it.
As for this diatribe about insults,
I find it a dazzling display of immaturity on the part of Ms. Gilbert.
Her objections to Archbishop
David Sommerville's sentiments
show her complete inability to empathize with a kind and sincere
man.
The archbishop, quite simply,
comes from an era which deemed it
far more complimentary to describe
a woman as "the girl next door"
than as "a really kickass doctor."
How can she condemn him for
that?
Mr. Lightbody's. remark, which
was indeed tasteless in a bumbling
kind of way, was in the first place a
left-handed compliment, and in the
second place, not something a
grown woman should lose any sleep
over. Does Ms. Gilbert seriously believe that the men at that address
will go around for the next six months comparing women and toilet
seats? Does she really believe that
many of her female compatriots
were so shattered by the remark
that they went to the washroom and
had a good cry? Is Ms. Gilbert taking a reasonable position?
Her suggestion that the adminis
tration should coach guest speakers !
before their speech and reprimand I
them   after,   or  even   during,  the
speech' for   any   questionable   remarks  really  takes  the  cake   for
mindless, nay stupid, crusading.
Hosts do not treat guests in that
manner, at least not in civilized
countries. Didn't Ms. Gilbert feel
the least bit ridiculous when she de- '[
manded that Doug Kenny reprimand the Archbishop of New Westminster?
I hope that other leaders of the
women's movement on campus will
recognize Ms. Gilbert's writing as
counter-productive, and that they
will disassociate themselves from it.
The sort of shallowness and immaturity exhibited in that Perspectives ;
column is not, 1 believe, characteristic of all concerned women on ;
campus.
David W. Martin
arts 1
What's the point, Pete?
I congratulate The Ubyssey's
editorial staff in general, and Peter
Menyasz in particular, for yet
another incisive, thoughtful and
penetrating article (UBC Johnny-
on-the-spot for cash, Oct. 2).
One might ask, "Does an intelligent, or for that matter,
unintelligent, reader deserve
better?"
Just what point is the witty and
sagacious Menyasz trying to make?
While listing various university expenditures which he considers
curious in some respect, Menyasz
alludes to their wastefulness, but
has neither the courage nor the facts
on which to base an open criticism.
Menyasz states that "$28,092 to
Max's Donuts could take care of a
lot of coffee breaks at the faculty
club."   Bravo,   Peter!   Did   these
donuts in  fact go to the faculty
club?  For  what  purposes in  fact
were the Fuller brushes and Hartz I
Mountain Pet Supplies used? Do
you have even the slightest idea,
Menyasz?    Until    you    provide
evidence to the contrary, I can think ,
of  several   plausible  and  entirely
justifiable uses to which these products    might    have    been    put.
Enlighten the reader, Menyasz, —
don't make him acutely aware of I
your own ignorance.
One is continually amazed by the'
shallowness and imbecility of what
passes     for     journalism     in'
Vancouver's   major   newspapers.
Must The Ubyssey be the same?
Alan Carruthers
graduate studies Page 8
THE    UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 11, 1979
One at a time
Smith's motto
In eight days the Thunderbird
football team has to defend its
Shrum Bowl title against the Simon
Fraser University Clansmen in what
the local media has decided will be
the greatest match-up since the Cosmos were in town.
WESTERN INTERCOLLEGIATE
FOOTBALL LEAGUE
Standings
W
l.        Pts.
Alberta 'Bears            4
1            8
UBC  Birds                  4
2            8
Calgary D'saurs          3
3       ■'   6
Manitoba Bisons        2
3            4
Sask. Huskies              1
5            2
So the UBC head coach has the
Clan fully scouted and is practising
his first string against the SFU offence and defence, right?
Wrong.
"1 don't know too much about
them nor do I care until after this
weekend," said Frank Smith.
"I'm not even considering the Simon Fraser game. Our only concern
is the game (against Calgary) this
weekend."
A win Friday in Calgary would
clinch the 'Birds a playoff spot in
the Western Intercollegiate Football
League, but beating the Dinosaurs
in McMahon Stadium won't be
easy.
"They're very, very tough to beat
at home," said Smith. "Home field
is a big factor in this league."
UBC stayed in a first ,;Iace tie
with Alberta with a 21-0 shutout
over the University of Saskatchewan Huskies Saturday at Thunderbird Stadium. 'Bird running back
Dave Negrin scored two touchdowns and gained 99 yards rushing
to lead the offence, while UBC's
defence held the Huskies to 27
yards on the ground.
While a win against Calgary
would ensure a playoff spot for the
'Birds, the home field playoff advantage might not be decided until
the last regular season game on Oct.
27 against Alberta at Thunderbird
Stadium.
But before then, Smith and the
team will have to think about their
Oct. 19 match at Empire Stadium
against SFU.
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Alberta now bearable on ice
For the first time in as many years
as Bert Halliwell cares to remember,
the University of Alberta Golden
Bears aren't shoo-ins for first place.
And for a UBC men's ice hockey
coach trying to rebuild a competitive team for the Canada West
University Athletic Association
season, that's good news.
Alberta has lost eight players
from the team that won the Canadian Inter-university Athletic Union
last spring and now ranks as mere
mortals in the four team conference. In fact Halliwell feels the
University of Calgary Dinosaurs are
now the team to watch.
"Most of their team has been
together three or four years so they
will obviously be tough to beat," he
said.
Halliwell's Thunderbirds will be a
threat themselves, although they are
still a building team.
"This is our second year of
rebuilding and since we are the
youngest team in the conference it
will be a trying year," he said.
■Ak
HALLIWELL . . . hockey coach
Halliwell has bolstered his squad
with several players from the
Pacific "A" tier two league, including centre Bill Hollowaty, who
led the Pac "A" in scoring last
year.
Other additions from the junior
league include Hugh Cameron,
Brent Stuart and Jim Allison. As
well, Ted Cotter and Dino Sita have
transferred to UBC from • the
University of Illinois.
Halliwell has several standouts
returning from last year, including
Rob Jones, who had 31 goals in 35
games, new captain Terry Shykora
and centre Jim McLaughlin.
The Thunderbirds split their first
two games last weekend, losing 5-3
to Port Alberni Saturday and dropping Parksville 9-4 Sunday. They
open their home schedule Friday at
8 p.m. in the winter sports centre
against the alumni. Thursday, October 11, 1979
THE    UBYSSEY
Page 9
New coach key to improvement
By DAVE FRANCIS
A tonic for the troops comes in
the form of a new coach for the
UBC women's basketball team this
year.
Jack Pomfret's appointment as
head coach of the Thunderettes will
be a key in the hoped-for reversal of
last year's disastrous record of one
win in 20 league games.
Pomfret, described by the B.C.
Sports Hall of Fame as "one of the
most remarkable athletes not only
in British Columbian, but in North
American history" brings to the
team a distinguished record of
achievement in sports as well as
great technical expertise in basketball.
As a basketball player Pomfret
led the Vancouver Meralomas and
Vancouver Cloverleafs to four Ca-
Upcoming
TODAY
Men's soccer
Women's field hockey
Intramurals
UBC dt Denver Kickers
Canada West tourney,
Women's superstars.
Saskatoon
7 p m., Mem Gym.
Women's Volleyball
Men's soccer
UBC at Mission Trijillc
FRIDAY
Intramurals
Portland State tournament
Men's football
UBC at Calgary
Men's rugby
UBC vs. Meralomas,
2:30 p.m., stadium
5 km. run, noon.
SATURDAY
Mclnnes field
Intramurals
SUNDAY
Last day of registration:
Arts 20 race
Co-rec canoe trip,
Widgeon Creek
Women's field hockey
Canada West tourney,
Co-rec bike tour
Men's ice hockey
Saskatoon
Men's slo-pitch tourney
All-alumni game,
Men's ice hockey
2:15 p.m., TWSC
Women's soccer
UBC vs. Alumni,
Women's volleyball
UBC vs. Edmonds,
8 p.m., TWSC
Portland State tourney
10 a.m.. Cariboo Park
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13 years.
Pomfret said that the number one
objective this year is to strengthen
the total program with more effective coaching. He added that.he is
striving for a junior varsity made up
of more first- and second-year
students.
"Newer players in the lower
ranks contribute to a better feeder
system," said Pomfret. "If players
are kept in the juniors too long,
they lose the desire to move up io
varsity. We are faced with the problem of keeping fourth- or fifth-year
veterans or going with the less experienced and giving them a
chance."
Pomfret, who had no idea he
would head the Thunderettes this
year until late June, said he is pleased with the turnout for this year's
tryouts. Forty-seven women are
competing for the 12 varsity berths
to be decided later this week.
Returning varsity players include
centre Jane Waddell, forwards Ber-
ni Yurkowski and Denise Simard,
and guards Jamie Alexander, Janet
Kanuka, Michele Lawford and
Sharon Staples.
A welcome addition to the varsity
ranks is 5'11" forward Agnes Baker
who played for last year's national
champion — Laurentian University.
But Pomfret admits the team has
its share of shortcomings.
"The team is definitely lacking in
size and height, the average player
being 5'8"," said Pomfret. "But
there is certainly no lack of enthusiasm. We'll overcome these problems with stress on speed and manoeuvrability."
Waddell said last year's poor performance was largely due to a lack
of motivation and a poor rapport
with the coach.
"The potential was there last
year," said Waddell. "The element
of cooperation between coach and
player was missing."
Pomfret said the Thunderettes
will concentrate on a revolving
single post offense where the players rotate positions as a means of
overcoming height disparities.
The Thunderettes open the season with an exhibition game against
the UBC Grads October 25 at 6:45
p.m. in Ihe War Memorial gym.
Their first Canada West University
Athletic Association league game
will be in Lethbridge Nov. 9-10
against the University of Lethbridge
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THE    UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 11, 1979
Tween classes
TODAY
INTRAMURALS
Televised women's Superstars event,  7 to  11
p.m.. War Memorial gym.
PRE-DENTAL SOCIETY
Lecture by the chairman for admissions, noon,
IRC 1.
AMNESTY UBC
General  meeting  and  forum  on  China,   noon,
SUB 212A.
CHARISMATIC CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP
Meeting cancelled until Oct. 25, 7:30 p.m., Lu
theran Campus Centre lounge.
CAMPUS CRUSADE FOR CHRIST
Meeting on Christian life seminars,  noon,  SUB
211.
GAY PEOPLE OF UBC
Professor Bill Black speaks on Gays and the Human Rights Code of B.C., noon, SUB 212.
WOMEN'S CENTRE COMMITTEES
Lesbian drop-in, noon, SUB 130.
DEBATING SOCIETY
Demonstration    debate    parliamentary    style,
noon, Buch. 212.
CUS
Dr. James Packer speaks on Knowing God's will,
noon, Chem. 250.
NDP CLUB
General meeting and film, noon, SUB 119.
CENTRE FOR HUMAN SETTLEMENTS
Ira Robinson speaks on Settlement distribution:
A response to Canadian population dynamics,
noon, Lasserre 102.
MEDIEVAL SOCIETY
General meeting, noon, SUB 215.
CSA
Lunch and game, noon, SUB 125.
FRIDAY
INTERNATIONAL HOUSE
Pan-African disco, 8:30 p.m.  to 1  a.m..  Inter
national House.
YOUNG TRUTCHKEYITE
Labor   reorganization   symposium,   5:30   p.m.,
Trutch House.
WOMENS COMMITTEE
General meeting, noon, SUB 130.
SPEAKEASY
General meeting for ail old and new volunteers,
noon, SUB 125.
CSA
Chinese painting workshop, noon, SUB 211.
HOME ECONOMICS
UNDERGRADUATE SOCIETY
Forestry and home economics beer garden,  6
p.m., SUB party room.
■ °*° ">■
Hot flashes
INTRAMURALS
Last registration for slow pitch softball, the "Arts
20," inner tube water polo nite and co-rec bike
tour, 4 p.m.. War Memorial gym 210.
CUS
Robbie Sherrell, Insurance Corporation of B.C.
president speaks, noon, Henry Angus lounge
room 302.
Oktoberfest with tickets in Angus 302, 8 p.m. to
1 a.m., Italian Cultural centre.
SATURDAY
DEBATING CLUB
Topic is Should right to-work legislation be passed in B.C.?, 10:30 a.m., see signs in SUB.
SUNDAY
UBC SPORTS CAR CLUB
Slalom, 8:30 a.m. for registration and racing
starts at 10. B-lot.
MONDAY
WOMEN'S COMMITTEE
Women's drop-in, noon, SUB 130.
TUESDAY
Cantonese class, noon, SUB 115.
WORLD UNIVERSITY SERVICE
General meeting and slide show on Sri Lanka,
noon, Buch   205.
NORMAN BETHUNE CLUB
Organizational meeting, noon, SUB 211.
WEDNESDAY
Bettha that
this boat sinks
All macho hard-drinking sailor
men and women are invited to go
beer boat racing outside SUB on
Tuesday.
The event is the Interfaculty challenge cup boat races to raise money
for the United Way. (Any excuse to
get drunk before five.) It costs $50
to enter a four-person team, $100 to
enter three teams or $150 for four
teams.
For further information contact
the Alma Mater Society in SUB
238.
Glow on over
Been taking Math 100 for the
past four years and wondering why
you're glowing?
Glow on over to Simon Fraser
University today and tomorrow and
panelists at their nuclear awareness
week will give you all the unradiated
answers.
Today's highlights include a
speech by Bill Harding, the former
director of United Nations program
policy for the UN development program and a discussion by University
of Regina sociologist Jim Harding
on Non-nuclear strategy and
governmental inquiry.
And Friday night will feature an
anti-nuclear benefit concert at the
SFU south court lounge featuring
the Sub-Humans, the K-Tels and
Perfect Stranger.
The concert starts at 8 p.m. and
will cost only $3.
It's rovoltin'
Why not attend a rally with a lot
of other unemployed people? They
will gather at the PNE gardens auditorium tonight, to protest recent
cutbacks to unemployment insurance.
The B.C. Federation of Labor rally will start at 8 p.m. and all protestors must have been out of work at
least 12 weeks.
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THE    UBYSSEY
Page 11
More scuttlebutt
Dropouts should
try talking first
Pit addicts, stupified students,
hard-pressed hacks and jaded journalists all visit UBC's counselling
department, but it seems potential
dropouts are staying away.
Only 20 per cent of students who
drop out of UBC speak to
counsellors, UBC student services
director Dick Shirran said yesterday.
He said a recent administration
report, based on a survey of 459
students who dropped out in
1976-77, revealed the counselling
problem. Lack of knowledge about
the existence of counselling services
probably contributed to the problem, said Shirran.
He suggested that "a student who
is considering dropping out should
sit down with someone and discuss
the pros and cons."
"I feel confident that, without a
doubt, a student sometimes decides
to stay after seeing things from a
fresh perspective."
The survey stated that 53 per cent
of the dropouts sought no advice
whatsoever, and many of those who
did only sought advice from
relatives.
UBC opts out
of satellite plans
Lack of money and equipment
have forced UBC to shelve its involvement in a new provincial
teaching satellite program.
UBC opted out of the plan
recently after being denied provincial government funding, although
education minister Pat McGeer an-
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nounced last week the implementation of the project at the B.C. Institute of Technology. BCIT will
soon begin transmitting courses via
satellite to small colleges in B.C.
"It was too expensive setting up
facilities. BCIT has broadcast
facilities but we do not," said UBC
economics professor Ron Shearer, a
member of the UBC committee that
applied for the funding.
Instructors at Prince George's
College of New Caledonia are angry
with the program because they fear
that the transmissions to six colleges
in B.C. and the Yukon are
duplicating their own courses.
— by alan favell
Concerned UBC
students get day
UBC students will get a chance to
rave about the research park, get
angry over accessibility, stew about
student loans and tear into tuition
increases this Wednesday.
The Alma Mater Society is
holding a Student Concerns Day to
inject student reaction into the pertinent issues of the day.
"The basic principle behind it is
to encourage student input on issues
that we (the AMS external affairs
committee) feel are of
importance," said Valgeet Johl,
AMS external affairs officer.
She said the day will centre
around a noon hour discussion of
issues in the SUB conversation pit.
She said topics on the agenda include the research park, accessibility to the university, unemployment,
the impending tuition fee increase,
and problems with the students aid
plan.
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By way of comparison, provincial roads and highways take up roughly ten times
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THE    UBYSSEY
Thursday, October 11, 1979
The big scramble is on as
universities search for these
HE   WRITING   WAS   ON
ihe wall "for yearst but only now
are the Cull effects of continuous
education funding cutbacks being
felt.
And as students return to
classes once again a look across
the country indicates a bleak future for post-secondary education
in the 1980s. Among the most
alarming developments:
• In B.C. tuition fees go up
again as of May, 1980 while education services go down because
of low government grants.
• In Ontario public universities and colleges could be lining up
al private banks, hoping to borrow money to cover anticipated
million dollar deficits in their operating budgets. The Ontario government replies that it has no
money and no objections to iis
universities following the lead of
Ontario students and borrowing
from banks for education financing. Ontario students also got a
five per cent tuition hike this year.
• In Quebec some university
administrators are cheered at the
prospect of incurring budget deficits of "only" $2 million. That's
because deficits in previous years
have topped $6 million.
• In the Maritimes. students
who survived the highest summer
unemployment rales in Canada
are scraping money together to
pay ever-rising tuition fees.
• In Alberta, despite a $5 billion Heritage fund rich in petrodollars, universities face deficits
approaching $500,(XX). And a
report on post-secondary education funding opens the possibility
of putting tuition fees on an arbitrary scale, a recommendation
boih university administrations
and student unions oppose.
• In Manitoba, students looking for relief after a 20 per cent
tuition hike last year are instead
facing another jump of six per
cent in this fall's fees. And once
again the tuition increase signals
another decrease, not increase in
university services. After getting a
meagre six per cent increase in
funding one university president
said fatalistically, "it's only half
what we asked for but it's twice
what they gave us last year."
• In Saskatchewan students
who thought they had a slightly
more liberally-spending government than the rest of Canada
founU out how wrong they were.
Alter tuition jumped 30 per cent
in three years without any increase
in services the NDP government
lift them with yet another fee hike.
• Ai nearly every post-secondary
institution in Canada administration looking to cut costs without
firing staff took aim at libraries.
• Many universities are being
forced to cut both support staff
and teaching faculty to make ends
meet. Positions are left unfilled
when fa.'ulty members leave,
retire or die and temporary instructors and leaching assistants
find it harder to work.
• foreign students arc becoming
an endangered species at Canadian universities as ali but three
provinces implement differential
tuition fees, in ihe Maritimes uni-
Bill Tieleman is a former
f'hyssey news editor who currently toils tinder the title of national
bureau chief for Canadian
University Press in Ottawa.
elusive government dollars during
a time off massive cutbacks. And students are
losers as classes fade away.    By Bill Tieleman
versities will receive $750 less in
provincial grants for every foreign
student registered at their institution.
'LEARLY    EDUCATION
cutbacks are national, not provincial in scope, and governments,
rather than responding with alarm
to the deteriorating post-secondary education situation, are continuing the underfunding policies
began in the mid-1970s.
Why?
There are two basie problems,
either one of which would cause
serious difficulties for universities
and colleges. Together they spell
potential disaster for the education system.
The first is declining enrolment.
Basically the children of the 1950s
baby boom have grown up, received their education and moved into
the labor force. This demographic
bulge, combined with society's desire lo make education more accessible, forced post-secondary in-
omy itself. During the economic
boom of the 1960s when money
was relatively more plentiful a society fascinated with accessible education and under pressure from
the ranks of its young found it
easy to spend money for education.
In the 1980s that will not be the
case. With hundreds of thousands
of unemployed in Canada and inflation eating up 10 per cent of
every Canadian's pay cheque each
year, education becomes a low
spending priority.
And with a recession, business
turns to government to stimulate
the economy, asking for tax cuts
and financial assistance to increase profits and a decrease in
public spending to lower inflation.
With a lower tax base because of
both the high cost of maintaining
a large sector of the work force on
unemployment insurance, and the
lower corporate taxes because of
tax cuts, government looks to cut
public sector spending to make
ends meet.
During the past few years that
post-secondary educators.
McMaster University president
Arthur Bourns warns that education cutbacks will become even
more severe for students if the
government does not increase its
funding. And he is concerned
about the government's reluctance
to do so.
Bourns is rightly concerned.
After a Sept. 7 meeting between
the Council of Ontario Universities and Ontario premier Bill
Davis, treasurer Frank Miller,
Margaret Birch, provincial secretary for social development, and
education minister Bette Stephenson, Stephenson said there is no
money available to help out universities in financial trouble this
year.
On Sept. 10 the council, representing all the universities announced that Carleton and Laurentian universities might be forced
to borrow money from private
banks to cover budget deficits incurred this year.
Stephenson replied that she had
no objections to a public univer-
stitutions to rapidly expand in the
mid and late 1960s.
(This same demographic bulge
is also one part of an explanation
for the current high unemployment level — just as universities
and colleges were forced to expand to take in the baby boom so
now is the labor market being asked to provide more jobs, with relatively unsuccessful results).
But now the baby boom
children are leaving or are already
out of the education system, and
universities and colleges which
scrambled wildly to increase their
services and hire faculty (often
from the U.S.) are left with large
campuses, large numbers of faculty and support staff and increasingly fewer students.
fo complicate matters further
for education planners they know
another "mini" baby boom, the
sons and daughters of the first
boom, will hit the education system in the 1990s.
The second problem is the econ-
has happened not only in education funding but in hospitals and
other areas of social services.
w,
HILE INSTITUTIONS
as large as universities can survive
a few lean years, continued funding cuts are devastating. Ontario
universities and colleges are
perhaps the best indicator of
things to come.
In 1972 Ontario was the second-
ranked of all provinces in per-
capita spending on post-secondary
education. This year it has dropped to eighth.
"The education system is on the
verge of eroding now, as it becomes increasingly more difficult
to sustain the library collection
and keep university salaries relative to salaries in other sectors of
society."
that opinion, voiced by University ol Toronto president .lames
Ham, is echoed bv all of Ontario's
sity in trouble borrowing from a
bank.
"Why should I object to them
going to the bank? They are autonomous financial institutions
and can make whatever financial
decisions they think necessary,"
she said.
Meanwhile Carleton, with an
expected deficit of more than $1
million, and Laurentian, currently
more than $500,000 in debt and
anticipating a deficit of close to $ 1
million by the end of the school
year, are in serious trouble.
"1 don't want to go to the
bank," says Laurentian University president Henry Best. "1
don't like deficit financing. It
doesn't make much sense if it is
going to be an endless process."
Best says Laurentian is in the
process of reducing staff in arts
and sciences courses but does not
want to allow the quality of services to suffer.
Ai Carleton. administrative
vice-president     Albert     Larose
blames the problem on insufficient government funding and a
decline in enrolment, especially in
the arts and science faculty.
iAROSE SAYS IT IS IM-
possible to make further cuts
without looking at staff firings because 80 per cent of Carleton's
budget goes for salaries and
benefits.
"I don't know what the answer
is," he said. "Something's got to
give. It can't go on the way it is."
At Trent University, which is
currently $272,000 in debt, president Thomas Nind said his university needs money but will not
borrow from a bank.
McMaster University is also expecting a budget deficit of
$745,000 but the shortfall will be
offset for this year by an accumulated $1.9 million surplus from
better years.
But McMaster is already planning staff cuts to make ends meet.
In a brief McMaster presented
to the Ontario Council on University Affairs, president Bourns said
the university will be eliminating
65 faculty positions by 1982 to
forestall an expected deficit of
nearly $10 million.
He added that positions vacated
by retirement, resignation or
death would be left unfilled and
that temporary teaching appointments are being ended. Bourns
said spending reductions could
mean the elimination of entire
programs.
John Panabaker, McMaster
board of governors chairman,
says there is a possibility of "the
education system gradually eroding into inconsequential mediocrity."
Education minister Stephenson
denies that the Ontario government has reduced funding to the
universities but admits that government grants have not allowed
the universities to keep pace with
inflation. And when one realizes
that salaries make up the largest
section of university budgets and
that every employee hopes to get
at least an inflationary wage increase each year the funding problems are seen clearly.
I
.F ONTARIO'S EDUCATION
system is leading the way into the
1980s the universities and colleges
of Canada face the gravest crisis in
their history.
University of Toronto president
Ham, whose university this year
had the dubious honor of being
the first campus to offer a single
class to 700 students at a time,
says the survival of the post-secondary education system depends
on three conditions being fulfilled:
• a public reaffirmation of the
value of education,
• clarification of the role of
the universities in society,
• a willingness of governments
to provide reasonably adequate
levels of funding to the universities.
Whether those conditions can
be met is anyone's guess. But if
they are not it's a sure bet that a
post-secondary education degree
.n Canada will be worth little
more lhan the paper it's printed
on.

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