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 Twisted minds are twisting the twist
. .  . defends  Remnant
Prof hits
Philosophy professor Avrura
Stroll said Monday the chorus
of criticism greeting speeches
by other professors is a threat
to   academic  freedom.
He said students should speak
qut strongly against those who
advocate muzling professors and
Stroll was speaking on "Did
Jesus Christ really exist" in
Brock Hall, sponsored by the
philosophy   club.
• • •
He said the Jesus of the
Christian gospels never existed,
1but he thought it likely a historical Jesus had existed. He
said legends had grown up
about Him that made it impossible for scholars to find out
what the real man was like.
Stroll attacked critics of an
earlier speech by another of the
philosophy department, Dr.
Peter Remnant.
Kemnant said in a philosophy
■ club-sponsored speech last week
that there is no evidence in the
Bible that God exists.
Stroll quoted a letter-to-the-
editor in which a Mrs. Ruth D.
Golman said Remnant should
not have used University facilities to express his personal
views on religion.
•     •     •
He   said   the   attacks   are   a
clear   and   unmistakable   challenge to academic freedom.
He said Remnant and the
professors who spoke publicly
on the Cuban crisis did so at
the request of students. "What
is being challenged here is the
right of student groups in a free
university in_a democratic society to invite speakers of their
choice to address them," he
He said this should be true
of all citizens in a democracy.
During a question period after
the speech,  he challenged anyone  who has   evidence  of  the
-existence of Christ to produce
The professor was replying co
,a Student who said he had found
Christ  through  faith.
When asked about his own
religious beliefs, he said they
Could not be summarized easily
because of the difficulty of defining terms.
So you think the twist is sexy, eh?
It's probably all in your mind, says
UBC's dancing instructor.
"Some people can make any dance
vulgar," dapper Grant Vincent said Monday, but added: "Of course, the vulgarity
could be all in the minds of the onlookers."
His comments followed UBC Radio's
contorted twist party in Brock Hall Thursday.
The Arthur Murray of UBC said interpretation of the dance is an entirely personal thing. "The waltz was once regarded
as a vulgar dance too," he said.
•      *      •
Vincent used to teach the twist to advanced dancing students but stopped after
he hurt his back.
The twist may have a place in modern
society," he said, "but I can't see it making a contribution to dancing as an art.
"It's definitely a young people's dance
that will last for another two years then
go out like a lamb."
Most of the dance's popularity is due
to good publicity, continued Vincent,
stroking his grey, slicked-back hair.
"It can be learned in five minutes because it's basically a primitive thing.
"It's been done by natives for thousands of years, you know."
Vol. XLV
No. 33
UBC's four-oared crew, Roy Mcintosh, Tom Stokes, Tom Gray, Eldon Worobieff, came third
Fours salvage bronze
says wait
for report
Hold up the trek to Victoria
until President Macdonald's report is published, Liberal candidate Dr. Pat McGeer advised
The Macdonald report, outlining the financial needs of the
University, will be available before the Legislature opens, Mc-
Geer said.
"When we have the facts and
figures, then we  can  march."
McGeer, a neurology professor at UBC, has suggested students march on the provincial
government to obtain desparate-
ly-needed funds.
He said the legislature will be
prorogued for Christmas, at the
time the report is expected to
be released to the public.
McGeer's suggestion of a trek
was immediately backed by his
NDP opponent in the Point
Grey byelection, Antony Holland.
"I'm delighted to have his
support," said McGeer.
But commenting on Tory
candidate Reg Atherton's warning that "the premier does not
like to be pressured," McGeer
"Quite true. But we (the University) don't like being broke."
The end of British Empire Games rowing era came for
the University of B.C.
After winning gold medals in two previous  Games,  the
rowers salvaged only a bronze medal.
Plagued by training problems,
ROOKIE COACH Laurie West's
rowers, plagued by training
troubles and 1 20-d e g r e e
heat, managed only one
bronze medal in BEG.
All-party forum
set for Thursday
The four candidates in the
Point Grey byelection will
speak at an all-party rally
Thursday noon in Brock
The rally is sponsored by
The Ubyssey. Moderator is
Ubyssey editor Keith Bradbury.
unusually high temperatures,
and . unexpected competition,
only the fours reached the
The fours, Tom Stokes, Roy
Mcintosh, Eldon Worobieff, and
Tom Gray, came a close third,
to England and Wales, in today's  final in  Perth.
The eights, who carried most
of UBC's hopes, didn't make the
finals. They, like the pairs were
eliminated in the heats.
Saturday the eights were defeated by a dark-horse New
Zealand team by one third of a
length, despite a desperate last
minute surge by the UBC
And Monday, in the repechage
(a consolation round, the winner of which goes into the
finals) the Birds were narrowly defeated by the home team,
the Australians.
"I'm sure they did their best,"
UBC Athletic Director Bus
Phillips said Monday. "There
"are other factors—such as their
blistered hands—that might be
used as an excuse, but I'm sure
the boys wouldn't want to use
an excuse."
So the Thunderbird dream has
come to an end. They were going to be the first team ever to
times in a row. For many
months they have been training
for this race, with that sole purpose in mind.
And now they have lost.
Without even getting into the
It was obvious before Saturday's race that the eights were
in trouble. Coach Laurie West,
in a desperate frame of mind,
even considered switching some
of the fours into the eight-oared
shell in an effort to find a winning combination.
But he decided against it, and
the decision paid off as the
fours won their race handily, to
move into the finals.
From this distance — 10,000
miles—it  would  appear  almost
Pages 6. 7
as if the eights were trying too
hard for this win.
Usually noted for their smooth
stroking, the eights were never
on their top form in Australia.
They just couldn't seem to g e t
working together; and in international rowing competition if
you're not in top form you just
can't win.
The pairs, Bob Stubbs and
Marty Gifford, were eliminated
win the BEG gold medal three ' in the repechage. Page 2
Tuesday, November 27,  1962
ii -j—Glenn Schultz photo
WATERLOGGED CHARIOT lies in library lily pond after unidentified group swiped it front Sciencemen. Incident is
believed to be latest in series of Frosh-Science pranks.
Students beat tubs
for on -cairipus pubs
UBC students want an oh-campus public house, but how
do they get it?
"A campus pub would be
very nice but they'll never get
it," said AMS president DoUg
Stewart, Monday when asked
about the desirability and feasibility of a pub for students.
"Liquor laws and zoning laws
are both prohibitive. They'd
have to build a hotel first," he
"If a Fraser Arms or Georgia-
type pub could be established
and properly conducted it would
De very good for students, but
you have to be able to control
age and identification," commented  Ian  Petrie,   Commerce
"It would be a meeting place
on campus—a licensed social
centre," said Mike Belfie,
Science  II.
' "W5vy eouldn't the AMS
establish a private licensed club
on the lines *>f the Faculty
Club?" he asked.
*     •     •
"Individual member ship
could be sold to students over
21. This would cover the cost
of establishing the facilities,"
added John Montgomery, Arts
. Agitation for an on-campus
public house or other licensed
premises for students has arisen
through the crackdown of downtown pubs on student patrons.
Hotels have threatened to suspend students from the use of
.their licensed premises.
IH aids Tibetans
with card drive
Paintings   and   Christmas
cards will be sold at Interna-
1 tional  House  to aid Tibetan
Vice-chairman of the Tibetan Refugee Aid Society, PttS-
fessor George Woodcock, said
the    society    will    offer    26
. paintings for sale.
Woodcock said the society
, was founded after he returned
from a trip to India, where he
tasited refugee ^oampSt^    - "
Fired editor
blasts Time
for article
Ex-editor Gary Althen of t h e
Daily Colorado, and Carl Mitch-
am, philosophy senior and author of an article which precipitated Althen's firing by attacking senator Barry Goldwater,
have both taken issue with Time
magazine's treatment of the incident.
Althen and Mitcham both
wrote letters to the magazine
protesting the coverage.
The Time article offered a
summary of the incident in
which it attributed the recent
blowup to an "intense left-wing
political split that gOes clear
back to Ku-Klux Klan attacks
on the school in the 20's."
i The Time article also said the
CU faculty senate, "meeting behind closed doors under police
guard, voted confidence in Newton."
Quigg Newton, president of
the university, fired Althen under what has been termed "intensive" pressure.
Althen and Mitcham said the
faculty senate back up the editor and not the president.
A caption below a picture of
Mitcham in Time said "how to
misuse academic freedom," and
also referred to Mitcham as
"Carl Mitcham, 26, a late-blooming philosophy student . . ."
Mitcham is 21, he says.
•      •     •
Mitcham, in the style of the
article which brought on the
furor, concluded his letter,
''Take it in the ear, Time, Quigg
Newton and all honored members of the establishment. I give
you my blessing — a curse "
Ex-editor Althan had only
one public comment to make: "1
wonder if there is anyone we
could fire for being irresponsible."  •-
Calathumpiums say
Remnant unrelevant
The essential truth in Dr. Peter Remnant's position on the
existence of God must be grounded upon its inherent irrelevancy. ""■"~~"""""""~~""""""""■""~"""™"~~
Post Office jobs
offered for Xmas
This was the keynote of a
statement released Monday by
the UBC chapter of the National
Non- conforming Calathumpiums.
Although Dr. Remnant has
a perfect right to express any
opinion he wishes, the statement read, and there may be
much to be said for his statements, "there is a certain revelatory quality lacking."
In effect Dr. Remnant is making the same mistake made by
those churchmen who have replied to his speech, continued
the statement.
• •     *
"In conceiving an anthropomorphic God, both sides (churchmen and Remnant) have misconceived, at least
measure, the nature of the
Deity, which is undoubtedly
based on the needs of a society
beset by poltergeists and social
The NNCC executive said:
"And although Dr. Remnant is
accurate in his view that there
is no evidence of the existence
of God, he totally misses the
point that God must exist, at
least in some measure, if there
iis to be a eonscibus belief in this
• * *
In fact, iNon-conforming Calathumpiums have arrived at the
truth, at least in some measure,
by philosophical and dialectical
contemplation of the questions
Registration for men will
be held Thursday, Dec. 6 at
8 a.m. and for women on
Tuesday, Dec. 4 at noon in
Hut M5, West Mall.
Ex UBC prof
McGill head
MONTREAL (CUP)—Dr. Harold Rocke Robertson, surgeon-
in-Chief, Montreal General
Hospital, has been named new
in   some  principai of M-cGill University.
He succeeds retiring principal
F. Cyril James.
Dr. Robertson was selected
from more than 100 candidates
for the job. He is a former professor of surgery and former
acting dean of medicine at UBC.
He is the first McGill graduate to be appointed to the position.
Born in Victoria, Dr. Robertson received his early education
at St. Michael's and Brentwood
College, both in Victoria. He received his BSc. and MD at McGill and did graduate work at
Edinburgh,  Scotland.
He is married and has four
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Branch Manager—J. L. Yellowlee* Tuesday, November 27, 1962
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Bacfc Victoria march
Trek or treat,
students warn
Students  overwhelmingly favor  a march  on  Victoria,  a
Ubyssey  survey showed  Monday.
And most who agreed in prin-
I read Photographic magazines.
I don't read Playboy, Gent
Or Dude.
I read magazines like Popular Photography, Modern Photography,  and  35mm  Camera.
Most of the time I read the
Miranda ad in these photographic magazines.
I'm in love with the Miranda
• •      •
Each month, the Miranda
nude appears draped around a
Miranda single lens camera.
But each month, this British
fellow (round hat and oxford
tie) censors my nude,
i I wouldn't mind too much,
but this British fellow has
never once looked at Miranda
(the nude).
I think he's not normal.
Each month I sit down and
study the Miranda nude.
I study the grain, the composition, the lighting and the
printing quality.
One month, I even decided to
buy a Miranda Camera.
• *      •
I went down town.
I went into the store.
I went up to the man.
I said: "Where does one find
He said: "What?"
I said: "Where does one find
the nude?"
He said: "Who?"
I said: "Where does one find
the Miranda 35mm single lens
camera with focal plane shutter, 2.2 lens an6 rapid return
He said: "Here."
p I looked at the camera.
j.  I said: "I'll buy it."
"  He took my money.
•   I left.
I now have 12 Miranda Cameras, but have yet to receive
my nudei
a Liberal
Dietrich Luth defied .fire
and water Monday to support
Liberal Dr. Pat McGeer's
Point Grey byelection bid.
The perennial Luth came forward to support McGeer in the
forthcoming Point Grey contest. Luth said: "Students, no
matter what their political allegiance, should support McGeer
as the representative of this University.
"Bennett is not university educated, nor are his sons," he
said. "He has no interest in higher education."
A responsive- crowd encouraged Luth by setting fire to his
At first, the audience sat or
stood in a wide circle around
Luth's box; then an onlooker
yelled: "Dietrich, can you
The mob, swelled by students
emerging from the library, began to edge forward and, finally,
surged around the speaker.
"Can you swim?"
"Don't worry about it," Luth
replied, "I have good fists."
Luth defeated an attempt to
hustle him into the lily pond.
Most of the crowd booed.
Then two or three enthusiasts
set fire to the soapbox, using
lunch bags and a cigaret to light
Luth calmly stamped out the
six-inch puff of flame, quipping:
"Leave the box. I need it for
income tax purposes."
Continuing, he said: "Education should toe the first prerequisite for politics. Most MLA's
are idiots."
ciple also vowed to take part
themselves if a trek was held.
A few, like Judith Vear of
Arts I, said they thought a trek
was an excellent idea — but
they wouldn't consider taking
Ronald Thomas, Arts IV,
said: "Who would pay for it?
I wouldn't go if I had to pay my
own way."
Stewart Blott, Arts II, said:
"Sure I'd go—it would be fun."
• •      •
Lynn Broman, Science IV,
agreed that a march should solve
the money problem for UEC and
added: "I'll go on a tank, what
the heck."
Mike Sharzer, Arts IV, said:
"A trek is a wonfierful idea but
it must be a demonstration, not
just a meeting with the Premier.
I've had enough meetings!"
Most students who agreed
with the idea of a march said
it should not be held until after
President Macdonald makes his
Many emphasized that it
would have to be well organized
to be effective.
* •      *
Those students who were
against the trek rarely had any
conclusive reason. Many said no,
they weren't in favor because
they didn't know enough about
Dave Ablett, Arts II, said:
"We've got enough ferries for
it—lots more than in 1922"
(1922 was the date of the first
trek which got UBC's campus.)
"several  differences"
Webb rejects
kissing kid
Poetess Phyllis Webb doesn't
believe The Ubyssey's kissih"Md
is real.
"Who's to say the little boy
I saw was the same one as the
one in the picture in Wednesday's Ubyssey?" she asked.
"I saw no one around with
a camera, yet the picture appears 'to have been taken from
fairly close range."
"Your picture could easily
have been taken at some other
Poetess Webb told The Ubyssey last week the little boy 3he
saw kissing the statue in
Buchanan concourse was doing
it  for art  appreciation.
But The Ubyssey contends—
and has a picture to prove it—
that the boy, four-year-old
Carey Ellingson, was being
posed for the picture by his
camera-toting mother.
quits AMS
Trav Pennington resigned
Monday as assistant co-ordinator
of activities.
He said his reasons were personal.
Bernie Papke, co-ordinator
of activities told The Ubyssey
he and Pennington had experienced several "differences"
since September.
• •      •
"Both of us are volatile personalities," Papke said. "You
can expect some differences to
come up."
Roger Pettit, Arts II, has been,
named acting assistant-co-ordi-
nator. " .-'*.-
Papke said the appointing of
an assistant Co-ordinator was
extremely informal.
* *     *
"I will give no statement
about. Pettit replacing Pennington," he said.
Students receive
Four UBC students will receive Union Carbide Scholarships  worth   $2,500 each.
They are: Michael C. Healey,
of Alert Bay; Christopher J.
Brealey, of Campbell River;
Roy B. Hayter of Oliver, and
Garth VanderKamp, of New
Author opposes
over - nationalism
A leading Irish-Canadian
novelist has predicted a bright
future for Canadian letters.
Brian Moore, author of the
current best-seller "An Answer
From Limbo" and the international! y-lauded "Judith
Hearne," said Monday that the
influence of American literature
will inspire Canadian writers to
great achievements.
Within 15 years, predicted
Moore, there will be no distinction oetween American and
Canadian literature.
This union will result in literature of the highest merit which
will be termed simply as "North
Moore criticized Canadian
writers for the "sickness" of
self-depreciation, which, he
says, has resulted in the same
overly-nationalistic feeling he
found in his native Ireland.
th. MILDEST BEST-TASTING cioaritti Page 4
Tuesday, November 27,  1962
Sound all-clear for the theologians
Come on out, you professional Bible-
spouting theologians. The debate is dying
But where were you last week when an
atheist described belief in God as an irrational facade.
Why had only one of you the courage to
express your beliefs, the faith required to defend your God, the time to describe the
strength and courage you gain from your belief?
"Why? For the sake of Christians, atheists
and the undecided, alike.
But, you are an accurate commentary on
the institution that is the modern day church.
You refuse to become involved in a controversy, you contribute by your silence to the
belief held outside this University community
that disbelief in God is a discussion subject
that is taboo. It is to your discredit.
>:" ■
In the past, men have gone to war to defend their beliefs. Today, it is almost impossible to get a compaent from you—the paid professionals that inhabit our theological schools.
You are the ones who, as heads and leaders of the various denominations  are   sup
posed to be able to convey to others the meaning and reality of the Bible, God and life. You
shirked your responsibility last week.
It is unfortunate because there are Christians here, who would like to see their faith
explained to those who have not experienced
the revelations and strength and courage from
God which many Christians have experienced.
There are atheists here who have determined their disbelief in God after serious intellectual exploration, but they too, are in a
continual search for evidence to prove or disprove the existence of a God.
And there are a great number—possibly
the greatest number of students here—who
are questioning. They are the ones who want
guidance to find a meaning in life. They are
the ones who would have profited most greatly by your discussion.
Religion is not a smug "no comment"
from a busy padre in a theological college at
the edge of campus. It is belief, discussion, defence and explanation.
Men in the past have gone to war to defend their religious beliefs. But not at UBC.
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Oxford really hops   t
A simple question of money
This Thursday, students will have their
chance to question candidates for the Point
Grey byelection on a number of important
issues at The Ubyssey's all-party meeting in
the Brock.
One of the main concerns of students will
be the question of University financing.
UBC has been continually neglected by
the provincial government, as we have stated
many times.
Students when deciding on whom they will
vote for should decide partly on the basis of
whom they feel will do the best job of providing for the University, or taking its case to
the legislature.
The Liberal and New Democratic party
candidates have indicated a willingness to
stand up for the University.
The Conservative candidate has said he
doesn't know enough about university financing to be able to be an effective UBC representative.
The Social Credit candidate said UBC is
getting lots of provincial support. Maybe she
will be able to convince the students on
We hope the candidates will realize that
this will be one of the most important issues
considered by the students and will come prepared to discuss it.
Commonwealth Scholar
As for cultural activities,
Oxford is by no means a cultural backwash although it
isn't London either. There are
two playhouses, both quite
large and comfortable and
with reasonable prices. The
bill of fare at these is of
pretty high calibre. There is
one resident company, the
Meadow Players, who are
pretty professional and receive
substantial grants from the
British Arts Council and the
University. Also, many big
name companies and performers come to Oxford. Flanders
and Swan were here two weeks
ago and the Old Vic is coming
soon for a six-week stint.
There is always something
going on which is worth seeing. In addition to theatre
arts, the place is rich in exhibitions, museums, and collections. The Ashmolean Museum
has some very fine paintings,
Letters: What is humane? Who is broadminded?
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
In your recent article, "The
Jury Was Right," you state that
the jury's interpretation of the
so-called Vandeput "mercy
killing" was humane and
broadminded. Is it humane to
deprive a helpless human of
her right to life? Is it broad-
minded to predict a future of
misery for a newborn child?
Your statements about "this
pitiful creature . . . ", "a freak
with no arms and deformed
legs ..." reveal your low
opinion of the dignity of man.
Pitiable, yes, Mr. Penz, but
"pitiful," no!
Corinne Vandeput was not
"a freak," but a human being,
full of dignity, capable of being loved and pitied and potentially capable of loving and
pitying others. Contrary to
your misinformation, her legs
were not deformed, but normal, as was her brain (according to her mother). She had
flipper-like hands which, from
the orthopedic point of view,
is considerably different than
having just "no arms."
*      •      •
The Vatican radio "openly"
stated that such actions as you
support "could not possibly be
condoned." It could never have
done otherwise since the Catholic Church actively defends
the dignity of the human being. Contrary to your naive
view of its "inhumanity," the
very human Church sees, in the
suffering of any human person,
whole or crippled, an opportunity for sacrifice on the part
of that person and those
around him. And by sacrifice
I mean self-forgetfulness.
If we all were a little more
self-forgetful mere would be a
lot more love in this world.
And we sure could use it, don't
you agree?
You and your fellow supporters say that the jury did "the
only humane thing" and that
the mother's action "was the
only possible solution." I don't
Human beings are heroically
adaptable individuals, as has
been shown by a goodly number of maimed war veterans,
to name but one example of
many possible. If, as you contend, a mother should have
the "acknowledged right" to
end the life of an infant who
is "going to be burdened with
helplessness, loneliness and
misery," then also should the
relatives of the maimed veterans have had a chance to
save them from their helpless,
lonely and miserable future by
terminating their existence?
And why not have the
"acknowledged right" to kill
all those babies who, before
the advent of Thalidomide,
have been born blind? or deaf?
or with an undectable congenital deformity which does" not
cause helplessness, loneliness
and misery until adulthood.
•      •      •
Certainly, the world would
have been spared the "misery"
of some of Beethoven's finest
music if someone had had the
right to mercifully end his life
when he became deaf.
"Life is not an end in itself," as you so rightly state,
but that "It is only worthwhile
if it is accompanied by enjoyment." I refuse to agree. And
furthermore, you state that
"If there is no chance for such
a life, we should mercifully
relieve this child of its future
unhappiness." In what Utopia
have you been living? There
is no chance for such a life for
a good many of us, so why not
all commit suicide and save a
lot of future unhappiness in
the world?
You first, Mr. Penz.
Yours truly,
Grad Studies 4.
Let's go
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
The UBC Liberal executive
endorses the idea of a "Third
Trek" which was initiated by
Dr. Pat McGeer and seconded
in your Friday editorial.
At the outset I would emphasize that we consider Doug
Stewart's comments. We MUST
know why we are demonstrating: for a better financial deal
and the immediate fulfillment
of Bennett's pledge for matching grants.
Once the Third Trek has
been decided upon it will be organization which will determine its success or failure.
A coordinating committee
must be struck weeks in advance. The committee should
be comprised of representatives
from the Students' Council,
Parliamentary Council (representing all political clubs), and
The Ubyssey.
With good organization this
would be the result: a mass of
two or three thousand students,
complete with banners and
chants, converging on the legislative buildings, demanding
the government to justify its
niggardly response to UBC's
financial plight.
UBC Liberals.
particularly of the Impressionists, and has one room devoted
entirely to Oriental art, a collection for which it is world
famous. They often bring in
exhibitions—currently they are
featuring an exhibition of
Henry Moore sculpture. The*
Bodleian Library is, of course,
a mine of interest in itself—■
one can literally spend hours
just browsing about reading
the lists of manuscripts, look-
ing at the manuscripts themselves, examining the old frescoes and oil paintings which
adorn the walls, browsing in
the old books, looking at the
old furniture, some of which
has been in the Library since
it was first established in the
14th century, and looking at
the Shelley artifacts which
are exhibited on the lower
floor. There are also many
movie theatres, several of the
artsy variety, which go in for
foreign films, but the biggest
crowd drawers seem to be
American extravaganzas such
as "El Cid" or British thrillers
such as Ian Fleming's "Dr.
No," based on the James Bond
novels which are so popular in
England, and popular here no
doubt partly because of the
eminence of their author. Ox-
for is, too, in the fortunate
position of being very close
to other places of note. It is
nly 60 miles to London, about
an hour's ride on the express
train; 40 miles from Stratford,
about an hour's drive, and
about the same distance from
Birmingham which also offers
some fine drama at the Birmingham Rep.
Letters policy
It is the policy of this newspaper to print letters submitted by interested readers.
We like to print all letters
but unfortunately we have not
been able to find a way.
The editor receives many
letters which are a ridiculous
100 inches in length. This is
two full pages of our newspaper. Besides, most of these
long ones are atrocious, so they
don't get printed.
We have asked, and asked,
that the letters be kept short.
Letters which have complied
with this request have been
To re-iterate, our policy is:
Letters should be kept to 150
Letters must be signed by the
writers, a pseudonym may accompany the original for
publication. Tuesday, November 27, 1962
Page 5
Letters: Nature of belief explained
The   Ubyssey,
DeTar Sir:
The article which appeared
in The Ubyssey entitled "God:
all-good, all-wise?" shows
clearly that the author is totally ignorant of the nature of
religious belief.
If the existence of God would
stand or fall with the degree
to which human beings could
understand his being logical,
then d line of reasoning such
as presented in the article
would dispose of him very
quickly. Of course this is not
the case.
The very essence of God is
that he is above-human, and
thus above-logic.
He must be believed in, not
•_ necessarily understood. He has
made human beings with a
mind which is limited in such
a way that it rebels against
anything which it cannot prove
correct with logical reasoning.
This does not mean that all
truth must be verifiable by
means of logical arguments.
It just means that there are
some aspects of reality which
we have no power to grasp, in
the same way that a man who
is born blind has no power to
grasp the ideas of light and
It is precisely for these reasons that people's belief in God
is not dependent on whether
they can prove or disprove his
existence with logical arguments.
Yours   truly,
Graduate Studies.
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
In last Friday's issue, in what
I consider an inspired com-
' ment, Mr. Tony Buzan, in "Indagatio," destroyed the arguments for the existence of God.
He left life on earth, a sterile,
absurd, chaotic void on which
dwells man, with only his rationality for comfort, guidance,
and inspiration.
"The test of a religion ...
is  the number of things  it
can  explain .. . but   religion
of   our   churches   explains
neither  art nor society nor
history, but itself needs explanation." Emerson.
But  his  column should  not
end here — man needs a "way
of   life"   if  not   a   religion.  A
capable and worthy successor
to   Jack   Ornstein   ("Serendipity"), Mr. Buzan should, in a
future article begin where he
left off in Friday's Indagatio.
That is, point out some way of
life appropriate to our society
and acceptable to our "men of
reason."  No other student on
campus   is   more   qualified   to
'    point out a new and vital and
reasonable   philosophy  of  life
or, if you will, a religion.
Tony Buzan is the president
of the UBC Unitarian Club.
Unitarianism is a religion
that is rational; Buzan is a rational man. A column on "Unitarianism, the the trend toward
life," would affirm to rational
readers that his last column
was far more than an argument
of little consequence.
Give us the article I suggest,
Mr. Buzan, and I assure you
we will "weigh and consider."
Yours truly,
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
Re: the article of November 16, "God: all-good, all-
I feel the treatment of the
subject was slanted and unfair.
Mr. Buzan did not achieve an
objective discussion on the
question of God's existence.
Instead, through intent or
through ignorance, the author
presented his opinions smoothly and convincingly, while giving an incomplete account of
an "objection" which he says
is raised by those who disagree
with him.
By ignoring vital aspects of
the distinction between God's
omniscience and man's free
will, he rendered the objection
useless and indeed made it appear somewhat silly.
On top of this, his basic assumption—that God does not
exist—is wrong, and although
he develops his theme logically
he leads the reader to an erroneous conclusion because of
this mistake in his initial hypothesis.
•     •     •
Mr. Buzan's statements can
be refuted readily by applying
to the problem fundamental
principles of the nature of God
and of His attributes.
Mr. Buzan either is unaware
of these principles and/or their
significance, or else has chosen
to ignore them. Whatever the
case, his article did not put
forth the pros and cons of the
argument in equal measure.
I am sure that the editors of
The Ubyssey feel that its readers are entitled to hear both
sides of any dispute. This
should be true especially since
the lack of religion or its presence in any form motivates all
human thoughts and actions.
Arts I.
Bad taste?
The Ubyssey,
Dear  Sir:
Yes! I am responsible for
that "bad taste" banner, "Why
I Don't Believe in God," in
front of Brock.
It interests me that in
Wootten's polemic in Tuesday's UBYSSEY he talks of his
high reverence for integrity—
the right for any man "to declare himself a believer ... or
what have you."
"Or what have you" connotes, to me at least, unconcern for said integrity or maybe it shows a firm respect for
jargon. It's a nice phrase
though—well thought out—■
like "bad taste." Though
Wootten carefully places loaded words throughout his indignant letter (like, "smack in
front of Brock"). I am glad he
restrained himself from regurgitating "smack in front of
Brock" for this would have
been in "bad taste.'
I would very much like to
know Wootten's definition of
"gimmick advertising" and if
"bold phospherescent letters"
constitutes such a definition.
I must conclude that because
this atheism lecture opposed
a personal prejudice of Wootten's he has seized upon.emoti-
vist, loaded language written
in the heat of a psychological
weakness, that of rage, to comfort himself.
Perhaps it was Chris
Wootten who, "overtaken with
a strong urge to throw up,"
tore down our poster in North
Brock, prompting me to lodge
a formal complaint with AMS.
But it is obvious that
Wootten doesn't understand
formal complaints, only
"strong urges" and impulses.
But I can only call Wootten,
brother, for if I had seen him,
or anyone else tearing down
an approved poster, I would
have been seized with a similar urge to act impulsively.
Yes.  Wootten, I am responsible for that  "bold" banner.
I hope you aren't responsible.
President, UBC philosophy Association.
Not appreciated
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
I would like to protest the
tactics used to advertise the
coming discussion on the existence of Jesus Christ. The sarcastic phrase "Pre Christmas
Special" was in very poor taste.
Several thoughts enter my
mind and I feel may enter the^
minds of other students.
1) Is whoever designed that
sign trying to achieve the same
affect as the semi-sex deviant
English instructors who revel
in reading unnecessary sexual-
ness in the literature studied
in Eng. 100 to shock the young
girls and invoke laughter from
their fellow deviates in the
back row? If so, then this University is getting pretty sick.
•     *     •
2) I am not against these
discussions but I feel they are
not appreciated by the younger
members of the student body.
They have not the learning or
the training to refute these
statements by people who have
spent years studying this and
other problems. Why not save
this for senior students? These
discussions only serve to put
doubts in the minds of many
who are unable to solve them.
3) If the philosophy department is responsible for the
creation and design of this
poster, they should harken to
Socrates' belief that knowledge is virtue. Using your
knowledge to attack and discredit the beliefs of others as
this phrase does is certainly
not virtuous. Their previous
posters on discussion received
no such resentment because
they were not vicious.
Finally, some people may be
able to justify such things as
the non-existence of God or
Jesus Christ, free love, and
homosexuality; but because
many cannot and do not want
to, it is their obligation to respect the beliefs and feelings
of others.
Arts II.
Spelling please
The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
In your editorial of November 22 you incorrectly called
our great faith the Non-conforming Calathumpiangs!
This is grossly unfair to our
members. If you wish to
change the name of our faith
is it too much to ask that you
join it first and do it in constitutional manner?
Of course, with our never-
ending overbearance we are
prepared to overlook this gross
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Tuesday, November 27, 1962
UBC kids,
metro J rs.
lose 6-0
The Thunderbird hockey
club had its first taste of international competition Friday
night and came out on the
short end of the stick.
. Birds, who Joined forces With
the Metro - Toronto All - Stars
dropped a 6-0 game to the touring Russian Nationals.
From the first face-off, the
Canadians  were  outclassed  by
the visiting squad:
The defence crumbled,. immediately exposing goalie Ken
Broderick to a stroftg offence,
often a two-man breakaway.
Three Russian goals eame on
The Canadian team, never
having played' as a unit (before,
found it impossible to get a sustained attack going.
A Canadian centre on a brief
breakaway was tripped up by
the Russian defence^. Result:
penalty shot completely beaten
out by a superb netminder.
Although the checking was
tight the game was clean, with
only two penalties being handed out.
The Thunderbird participants
were Peter Kelly, Dave Chambers, Micky McDowell, Broderick, Terry O'Malley, and Barry
The team was coached by
UBC's Father David Bauer.
Birds get game
with Japanese
UBC's rugby Thunderbirds
will play the touring Japanese
all-star team in the stadium
next term.
The game, part of a B.C. tour
by the Japanese, Was announced
over the weekend, in 1960, the
Birds beat touring Yawata, Japan,  18-11.
All rugby games over the
weekend were cancelled due to
wet grounds, including the
Birds' crucial match with first-
plaee Kats".
more soccer success
Grapplers grip
B.C. mat title
The UBC wrestlers threw their
weight and their opponents
around Saturday to win the-B.G.
wrestling championship.
In competition at the Central
YMCA, UBC led the field with
a total of 20 points. Their nearest competition was Vancouver
Y with 14 points.
Bruce Richardson, Ted CqnS-
ver and Bruce Green all won
firsts in their respective weight
classes. Team captain Ron Effa,
who wrestled seven matches,
placed second in his class.
This is the second year in a
row UBC has won.
Vic College irate
VICTORIA (CUF)—-Students
at Victoria Gollege are' unhappy
at the speed 6i work on theit
new student union building.
The building, originally scheduled to be ready in September,
is still hot finished.
The UBC four-oared crew
is a crew of extremes.
They have the oldest crew
member and the youngest; the
lightest and the heaviest.
Roy Mcintosh, the team captain, is at 165 pounds the lightest man on the crew. Roy pulls
the bow oar.
Eldon Worobieff, the stroke
oar, is the tallest crew member
(6'6") and also the heaviest
(205 pounds).
Tom Stokes, at 18, is the
youngest rower.
And Tom Gray, at 26, is the
Mcintosh, known to his
teammates as "Tosh," rowed
under Laurie West at Shawni-
gah Lake high school when
they won the Canadian School
Stokes, known as "Starmer," was first called "Farmer
Stokes" because he comes
from Richmond. Then they
changed it to "Starmer
Pokes," and finally just
Soccer Birds strike gold
in California travels
UBC Thunderbirds' California crusade was a success—
they remained unbeaten.
Birds wrapped up the tour
Saturday when they trounced
the University of California 6-0.
UBC sparkplug John Haar led
the way with three goals. Playing coach Joe Johnson, Ed Wal-
lis, and Jim Jamieson shared
the others. It was only the second defeat of the year for the
huge university at Berkeley.
Birds had opened the tour by
drawing with University of San
Franciseo 3-3. The third-scheduled game, with Stanford, was
UBC completely dominated
the play. In Thursday's game
against San Franciseo, particularly in the first half. The score
was 3-1 for the Birds at half-
time on two goals by Haar and
one by Jim Jamieson.
. In the second half, however,
UBC seemed to feel the heat;
they stood by and watched as
San Francisco scored two goals
to tie the game.
Birds finally came alive again
late in the second half, but despite several scoring opportunities, could not manage to break
the tie.
In Saturday's match against
the University of California,
UBC made sure they didn't have
another mental breakdown.
They jumped into a 2-0 lead
in the first half, and poured in
four more goals in the second
half for their 6-0 victory.
Birds are now undefeated in This weekend, they will move
their first 10 games, with two into the semi-finals of Mainland
ties and eight victories. J League Imperial Cup play.
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York is Toronto's newest university with a student enrolment of about 500.
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Portland wins  volleyball;
hosting Birds place fourth
UBC Thunderbirds finished fourth in Saturday's invitational volleyball meet held at War Memorial gym.
The meet was won by Portland YMCA with nine points.
Seattle Estonians were second, Vancouver YMCA third. UBC
was fourth with five points.
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At least nine University of B.C. students now know how
Harry Jerome felt two years ago on that sweltering summer
day in Rome.
That was the day, you'll remember, when the cocky North
Vancouver sprinter collapsed five seconds from Fame.
That was the day, you'll remember, the world called Harry
Jerome a quitter.
In five seconds on a strip of dirty cinders, Harry Jerome,
the boy next door who was a little faster than you and me, went
from Hero to Bum. A conceited kid who couldn't put up when
it counted. A quitter. A Bum.
»IT HAPPENED AGAIN last weekend to Harry Jerome, the
cocky kid who'd made people forget that humiliating incident
in Rome by running 100 yards in 9.2 seconds.
Last weekend, 8,000 miles from Rome, 10,000 miles from
home, Harry Jerome quit again. He quit 50 yards—five seconds
—from a little round piece of gold, spelled f - a - m - e.
It won't matter why Harry Jerome quit. Harry Jerome
may never get a third chance. Harry Jerome is a bum.
It's there in a million homes, an inch high and black: Jerome folds again.
Harry Jerome paid for those five seconds with five years
of sweaty toil, five years of striving after some glorious ideal
which he chased faster than any man alive. He missed it by five
awful seconds.
Harry Jerome may be in debt for the rest of his life. Harry
Jerome chased Fame and didn't catch it. Twice. He was knocked
down by that elusive lady, but he got up and chased; it again.
He didn't make it. He quit.
Harry Jerome is lying on a bed somewhere in Perth knowing he may have that stigma as long as he is remembered. There
is nothing he can do to redeem himself short of running 100
yards across some dirty cinders in 9.1 seconds. After Perth and
Rome, even that feat may not resurrect Harry Jerome.
•     •      *
NINE UNIVERSITY OF B.C. students now know the irony
of Sport. They lost. They have that same horrid, merciless feeling
inside them that Harry Jerome felt in Rome.
The University of B.C. eights know, just like Harvey Wylie,
the superlative Calgary football player knows, what it's like to
lose a chunk of your life by three seconds. They know what it's
like to fail when Victory is an inch, a second away.
The UBC rowers have trained a lot harder than Harvey
Wylie during the last six months, and received a lot less. They
were punished just as hard, perhaps harder.
For six months they have lived away from home. They have '
got up at 5:30 or/ 6 in the morning to propel a fragile boat a
couple of .miles across a cold, rainy harbor. They have returned
to attend classes, then gone down to Stanley Park to repeat the
ritual in the evening.
They have sweated and worked for an intangible ideal that
they didn't have to work and sweat for. Every day for six or
more months.
They boarded a plane one day a couple of weeks ago, determined. Determined partly because in a smaller way than Harry
Jerome, they had tasted defeat in Switzerland.
They flew 10,000 miles to a river in another hemisphere,
where for seven minutes, nine and one-half seconds, they battled
a group of young men like themselves. They lost by two and a
half seconds. In the time it's taken you to read this paragraph,
nine of your classmates saw six months of their lives go down the
Was it worth it?
Many, maybe even the rowers, will say yes. Defeat is something you have to face in life, they say, and sport teaches you
to take it. But in competitions like the British Empire Games,
defeat is a bitter pill to swallow, especially when you were expected to win.
WE'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE Bruce Kidd. He survived those crucial seconds. He deserves every ounce of praise
that can be heaped upon him.
But at the same time we'd like to say we're sorry, or maybe
that we're trying to understand how Harry Jerome, Harvey Wylie, and the rowers feel. They've taken it.
Are they better off?
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Birds beat Bears
in weekend games
The Thunderbirds basketball team started in this weekend
where they left off last year as they defeated the University of
Alberta Golden Bears twice in War Memorial gym.
Friday night the Birds romp
... 7 points
Women Birds
beat Portland
Senior A team
After two close victories this
weekend over the Portland Senior "A" women's basketball
team, the UBC Thunderettes
basketball team is eager to test
themselves against the New
Maids' team this Wednesday.
"We used teamwork to produce the points in those games,"
said coach Gerry Gilmore, "and.
We should have a good chance
against the New Maids Wednesday."
UBC has not won a game
against the Richmond Merchants-New Maids team for three
Saturday the Thunderettes
had to go into overtime to get
their victory. The score was tied
22-22 when regulation time
came to an end.
Heather Inglis scored the only
basket of the overtime period to
give UBC a 24-22 win.
Barb Robertson scored seven
points in the game.
In the second game Arlie Sy-
verson scored 13 points as t h e
Thunderettes took a narrow 45-
41 win.
The Thunderettes will meet
the New Maids this Wednesday
at   King   Edward   gymnasium.
ed to an easy 83-44 win; Saturday evening they won 63-51.
Friday's game was an interesting affair; the Birds were still
smarting from their one-point
defeat at the hands of the Lethbridge Nationals Thursday, and
they went all out to beat the
But after their easy victory
Friday the Birds let down mentally for Saturday's contest, and
their play suffered.
The Bears, who varied their
defence from a tight zone to a
three-quarter court press, made
Saturday's contest a close, if not
artistic contest.
In the middle of the second
half, the Alberta team came
within one point of the Birds.
John Cook was high-point
man for the Birds both nights.
Friday he scored 14 points, and
Saturday he netted 15.
The Birds were a little bother
ed by Alberta's press in Friday
night's game, but soon found
they could break it wide open
With full-court passes.
UBC made 48 per cent of their
field shots in Friday's contest,
while the Bears hit only 19 per
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Efficient Reading For
University Students
The Department of University '^Extension offers an eight-
week, non-credit evening course designed to improve
reading efficiency with emphasis on reading comprehension.
Sixteen sessions will be conducted Mondays and Thursdays of each week at 8:00,p.m. in Hut lVfL-3 commencing
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Fee: $25.00.
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Tuesday, November 27,  1962
'tween classes
"Caesar" plays today
'Julius Caesar" with Marlon Brando, today at 3:30, 6:00
^nd 8-30 p.m. in Auditorium. Admission 50 cents.
*  *  *
Profs threaten
to quit jobs
at Ole Miss
tinuing controversy and unrest
at the University of Mississippi
has seriously disturbed faculty
morale, observers here report.
Many professors have publicly
voiced resentment over what
they consider a temporizing
policy in dealing with troublemakers on the part of the administration.
Many are repo|ii$§*'to have
told the administration that
they cannot conti«SEr finder such
conditions, and thojja Mfith better
jofeoffers in otherj^^s are becoming more incifijld to leave.
A number of students, particularly those in graduate school,
have joined the protest of their
professors claiming it is impossible to study under the present
The student newspaper has
asked why a few of the rabble-
rousers have not been removed
■'so that we can• Consider matters of more importance than
the actions of a few weaklings
who have nothing more to do
than 'play war/
Recent developments seem to
indicate a relative peace of
some sort will soon be established, but there seems little
likelihood that Meredith will be
able to finish out the year with
his armed bodyguard.
Two Old Miss students were
arrested last week for passing
out literature which said, m
part: "Red Jack Kennedy is the
most dangerous enemy America
ever had. He has repeatedly
given aid and comfort to the
enemy and has constantly
Worked to destroy the constitution of the United States of
America ..."
•     •     *
A leaflet calling other students
to isolate James Meredith has
been circulated on the Old Miss
Meredith is the school's first
Negro student.
The leaflet, called 'Rebel Resistance,' sets forth a 'Strategy
for the students of Oxford.' It
claimed Meredith "should be
avoided for the NAACP leper
he is."
Student- mental health
conference at Queens
OTTAWA (CUP)—A conference on student mental health
will be held at Queen's Univer-
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It is sponsored by the Canadian Mental Health Association,
the National Federation of Canadian University Students and
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Forum on the general practitioner, Wednesday, 12:30, Wesbrook 100.
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Antony Holland, NDP candidate in Point Grey byelection,
speaks noon today, Bu. 203.
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Topic: "So you know the Answer," Wednesday, 12:30, Bu.
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Important meeting with Dr.
Keith Clifford, Wednesday at
12:30, Hut L-5. Everyone out.
Dimitries Roossoupolos, President CUCND speaks on "Positive Non-Alignment," noon today, Bu. 106.
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Mr. Wood, chairman of Senate
Committee for Canadian University Students Overseas, on
"Practice Your Profession Overseas," noon today, Bu. 204.
Discussion on "The Sons of
Freedom — Nuisance or Menace?", noon today, Bu. 214. All
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Last meeting of the term —
competition prizes to be awarded; film on "Construction of the
Lentax Camera" to be shown,
noon today.
WUSC to probe
social  conditions
OTTAWA (CUP)—World Uni-
versity Service of Canada will
institute a survey into social
welfare provided for foreign students in Canada during the coming year.
The 1963 WUSC national seminar will be held at Laval University in Quebec City.
Student for light housekeeping, in return for desirable
room and board in quiet
home. Surroundings conducive  to  study.   Some  salary.
Beginning Spring Term.
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"Repairs While You Wait"
NATIONAL NDP leader Tommy Douglas told Laval conference central economic planning was only answer to
Canada's problems.
NFCUS sponsors
French Canada week
NFCUS is going to sponsor a
French Canada week in February.
NFCUS needs help to make
the \yeek come off.
A week-long series of speakers, discussion groups, panels
and debates will be arranged
in an attempt to familiarize students with French Canadian
Those interested should contact Mike Davies in the NFCUS
office, Brock Extension.
NFCUS student discount cards
may be used for the purchase
of shoes, clothes, records and
ski equipment during Christmas.
Douglas pushes plan
for central planning
QUEBEC (CUP)—T. C. Douglas, national leader of the
New Democratic Party, has condemned the belief that separate
economic decisions will result in a program beneficial to all.
Speaking as part of a panel | ■
Real blasts
QUEBEC (CUP)—Six hundred
students attending the Laval
Conference on Canadian Affairs
were deluged with the propaganda of the country's minority
political parties, as Real Caouette, deputy social credit leader
and David Lewis, his counterpart in the New Democratic
Party solved the country's
economic problems—each in his
own way.
Waving his arms and pounding his desk, Caouette expounded his theories on the
present unemployment problem.
He suggested creation of more
money by the bank of Canada.
Lewis, calm in contrast to the
fiery French Canadian, said "My
on the Canadian economy at
the second Laval Conference on
Canadian Affairs, Douglas said
a regular, co-ordinated economic
policy controlled from the top
was the only way to solve economic problems.
He disagreed with the other
panel member, the director of
the economic school of advanced
studies, Francois-Albert Angers,
who held that planning from
the bottom with consultation of
the various experts in different
sectors of the economy would
form a good overall plan.
"There is no guarantee that
success will be reached when
■all, segments are added up,"
Douglas said. "We have a hodgepodge of economic decisions,
especially where investment is
Douglas said regular meetings between the Prime Ministers and the provincial premiers could be used to co-ordinate j friend Mr. Caouette has a very
an economic policy. He said a j charming voice but he is
federal-provincial planning  and  wrong.
development council made up of j __"We cannot cushion the ef-
experts from both Ottawa and : fects of enforced idleness by re-
the provinces could also be set j sorting to surrounding glitter,"
up. -    ! Lewis said referring to the at-
Angers said:  "We need plan- j tractive  plans   outlined  by  the
ning beginning at the level of ! Socreds.
economic agents in each sector, j Canada needs a program of
with these plans being used by social capitalism for urban re-
the federal government to define policies.
UiC forms ready
Graduate students, or students
who will be graduating this
year, can now obtain forms
from The National Employment
The forms may be picked up
at the personnel office.
development,   Lewis   said.   We
need   more   hospitals,   schools,
"If planning is imposed, it is . homes for the aged, theatres and
not  democratic," he said. care for the mentally retarded.
Bolero Party Lounge
Available   for   Parties
Re 8-7910
Julius Caesar
3:30 and 8:30
There are employment opportunities across Canada for 1963 Graduates in
the following occupations:—
Graduating students are requested to return their completed N.E.S. registration forms to the University Personnel Office as soon as possible. Upon
receipt, the Personnel Office will forward them to the National Employment
Executive and Professional Division,
National Employment Service,
Mr. W. L. Roberts, MU 1-8353


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