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The Ubyssey Jan 8, 1932

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Issued Twice Weekly by the Students' Publications Board of The University of British Columbia
No. 20
U.B.C. Coeducation
Extreme, Says Editor
Of Toronto "Varsity'*
W. F. Payton Sees Many Differences Between Toronto University and Local College; Advantages of Site Here Stressed
Youth of Students Impresses Visitor
"I was almost shocked at the close
mingling of the opposite sexes
throughout the U. B. C. campus,"
said W. F. Payton, editor of %t
Toronto "Varsity," In an interview
to the Ubyssey.
The vlstlor expressed great surprise at seeing men and women
students seated at the same table
in tha Cafeteria and studying side
by side in the Library. At the University of Toronto the two sexes are
completely segregated except in lecture rooms and even there they sit
on opposite sides of the room. At
Toronto a student may not take a
feminine friend to tea unless heUh*
wishes to go down town. Oh nojanj
they are not aUowed ln the same
University restaurant. The men
wear their hats in the buildings.
Why take them off? This was a
custom before co-education became
the rule and they do not see why
they should change their view now.
Asked for other impressions which
U. B. C. had made upon him, Mr.
Payton remarked on the "ideal setting" which this university enjoys.
He thought that the isolation from
the city and the large amount of
space about the campus were very
desirable.       "<
The extreme\apparent youth of
many of thefijltuden$s here was ani
other point wh^lch impressed the vls-
.Jltog^editfli,t';|yuif»^,iltt ?¥z
imum age for admission to the University is 18 and Mr. Payton believes
that even this is a little too young.
The Library here, at least from
the point of view of beauty of architecture and interior space is superior to that provided for Toronto's six
thousand students, but as the visitor
pointed out, where there are residences on the campus, as is the case
in the eastern city, there Is less need
for students to study in the Library.
The editor of the "Varsity" showed
considerable interest in the work of
the Publications Board at U. B. C.
He remarked on the cramped quarters which the "Pub" occupies here
and told of the three offices and adequate phones and typewriters which
are used in the production of the
"Varsity." AU departmental editors
of the Toronto University paper receive an honorarium varying from
S3 per issue for the Editor-ln-chlef
down to 50c per Issue for some of
the assistants.
Debaters Chosen
For 'Toba Meet
To Leave Mon
Final selection of debaters for the
forthcoming intercollegiate meet with
the University of Manitoba was made
at the try-outs held by the Parliamentary Forum, last night In Arts 100.
BiU Whimster and Paul Campbell
were chosen by a committee of judges
headed by Professor J. Friend Day.
The subject discussed last night was
"Resolved that the civilization of the
United States is a greater menace to
the world than that of Russia." The
same subject will be debated in Winnipeg on January 14, where U.B.C.
will be contending in the forensic
ring with the best that the University
of Manitoba can produce.
At noon on Monday the successful
team will debate the same subject
with the runners up in the recent
try-outs, Miss Eleanor Walker and
Sonny Nemetz. The discussion will
take place in Arts 100. Whimster and
Campbell leave for the prairie city
on Monday night.
All students from the graduating
class of every faculty are requested
to please look immediately in the Arts
letter rack for notices regarding their
photographs in the Totem, If you
have already made your appointment
please disregard this notice.
Review of WUla CauWe "Shadows
On the Rock" Concludes Program
"Even a casual glance at almost
any poem, novel or short story by
Marjorie PickthaU, will reveal the
marvellous subtlety in her colouring" Enthusiastic appreciation such
as this characterised Miss Effie
CampbeU's paper on "Marjorie Pick*
all" at tiie Literary Forum meet-
on Tuesday noon ln Arts 105.
Miss Campben gave a detailed picture of the author's life, her strivings in the subjects she loved, her
extreme happiness during good fortune, her struggles for Independence,
and her continued fight for health.
"Her music practice, flower sketching, and water colouring, her stories
and poems without number, her
feverish intention and passion for
perfection consumed the narrow
margin of her strength even to the
end of her days." This "genius for
taking pains," Miss Campbell explained, gave her work "that quality
frequently lacking in the work of
others with more native brilliance,
namely a high ethical purpose which
saw things clearly and saw them
whole and held straight on to the
high object of her adoration."
Miss PickthaU entered and won
many literary competitions, gradually contributing more and more to
periodicals. "Each year she became
more firmly established not merely
as a poet and a writer of fiction but
as one of the most lyrical and authentic voices In English literature."
Most of the author's works were
briefly commented upon, and included: "Drift Opinions," "Little
Hearts." "Mary Shepherdess," "For
Cover," "The Bridge," "Lamn of
Poor Souls," "The Wood Carver's
Wife and Other Poems" and "Angel
Loud applause at the end of the
paper showed the appreciation of
the Club. Miss Rathle then completed the program of the meeting
by a brief review of "Shadows On
the Rock," by WUla Cather. The
author's "complete mastery of visual
pictures" was particularly remarked
on. The deft characterisation Miss
Rathle felt to be another point in
its favor. "Comprehensive is perhaps the best term to apply to the
book as a whole," concluded the
A motion to change the constitution was put before the meeting by
Miss Jean Witbeck, to the effect that
members missing two consecutive
meetings will be asked to resign,
and those missing one without excuse liable to a fine of fifty-cents.
The book to be reviewed at the
next meeting is "Wintersmoon," by
Hugh Walpole. As many members
as possible should read this book.
This is the last week for the payment of fees (twenty-five cents).
Members are asked to turn these in
to Miss Lilian Youds as soon as
Expert Treats
Two Aspects Of
Gold Standard
Professor Angus Gives Most
Lucid Explanation of Problems Today
Canada Shown To Be No Longer on
Oold Standard—Restoration  of
Prices Difficult
Explaining some ot the more
puzzling facts about tiie economic
use of gold today, Prof. H. F. Angus
addressed a joint meeting of tho Engineering Institute of Canada and
tha American Institute of Electrical
Engineering in the Medical-Dental
Auditorium, Monday, at 8 p.m.
Illustrating his point by the hypothetical case of a completely isolated country, the speaker said that
in spite of the advantages of paper
money, gold has always been of
primary importance, because its
value remains fairly constant.
"At present, however, altogether
too much Is dependent upon the
value of gold," declared the Professor. "When we insure our lives
we are really gambling that the
value of gold wUl remain constant,
but variations of twenty-five or
thirty per cent have been recorded,"
said the speaker.
"Soon we shall demand dollars
whose value fluctuates even less
than does the present gold dollar,
and to obtain a more stable system
of currency is not difficult. By defining the dollar as a definite fraction of the average quantity, of
goods required by the average family, our isolated country could easily
keep Its dollar constant."
Referring next to the International
aspect of tiie gold standard, Professor
Angus commented on the vast importance of a fixed rate ot exchange
if world-wide trade. Is to be carried
on successfully. So long as all
countries remain on the gold stand-
dard, their currencies will be at par,
but the disruption of trade when a
country abandons the gold standard
is only too well known.
By buying and selling one another's currencies freely all nations
might leave gold without disorganizing international trade, and such
an adoption simply calls for universal co-operation, he declared.
In connection with this question,
the speaker said that while Canada
still redeems her notes in gold, the
very fact that she has forbidden its
export leaves her without a standard. For this reason the Canadian
dollar is at a discount in New York.
Touching upon the subject of inflation, the speaker said that a reasonable amount of inflation was permissible in order to restore price
levels, but on no consideration
should conditions be brought to the
extremes seen by Germany in 1923.
Again international co-operation is
Concluding his address, Professor
Angus answered a number of questions, and declared, in his opinion,
gold might well be abandoned provided that necessary precautions
wore taken to avoid panic ln the
stock exchanges.
Mr. T. F. Whitycombe, janitor In the Science Building
for the past five years, was
buried at Ocean View Ceme-
tary 2:30 Tuesday afternoon.
He died of pneumonia Sunday i
 !--     He   is  survived   by   j
his  widow  and  one  sister.
Results of Thursday Night's
Basket Game in Saskatoon
VARSITY.   ...   46
Wednesday,  Jan.  13-W. U. S.
meeting, Arts 100, noon. Plans
for Hi-Jinx and Coed.
Monday,   Jan.   11. — Women's
Gym.  Club,  U.B.C.  Gym,  at
4:30 p.m.
Tuesday. Jan. 12.—Letters Club,
2047  35th Ave. W.
"Varsity" Editor
W. F. Payton, the editor of tho
Toronto "Varsity," is the successor
of A. E. Allan on that post. He is
a fellow of Wycllffe CoUege and obtained his B. A | degree last year. He
is visiting U. B. C. on a tour of
Canadian universities to organize
the C. I. P.
Closer Bond of Union Between Canadian Universities Is Aim of Newly
Founded Organisation, C.I.P.
In an effort to establish a mutually beneficial union among the college press of Canada, W. F. Payton,
editor of the Toronto "Varsity1'
spent Tuesday and Wednesday in
Vancouver in the course of a Dominion wide organization tour for the
Canadian lnter-collegiate Press Union.
The C. I. P. was formed last November and has aa Its objecttvee tha
better dissemination of Canadian collegiate news and* a closer bond Of
union between Canadian Universities. At present the organization includes in its membership the universities of Toronto, McGill, Queens
and Western Ontario. It is hoped as
a result of Mr. Peyton's tour that
about twelve Canadian Universities
will join the union and benefit by
an exclusive collegiate news service
which is now being inaugurated.
The National Federation of Canadian University Students, now convening at Hamilton, has wired Mr.
Payton, who is president of the
C.I.P., inviting that organization to
become affiliated with the former
body and it is thought that a satisfactory basis for co-operation between the two associations wUl be
readily established. U.B.C. is represented at the N. F. C. U. S. convention by Earl Vance, president of
the A.M.S., from whom a report of
the proceedings is expected shortly.
Major   Parts   In   "Allce-Sit-By-the-
Fire" Are Assigned to Double
Cast in Prelims.
Exam System
Gives Rise
To Criticism
Prominent Students Scheduled
To Give "Ubyssey" Opinions
On Live Topic
Modification In Some Form Seen As
Necessity; Compromise Suggested
Between American and Euro-
What do students think of the examination system now in vogue at the
University of British Columbia? There
has been more discussion than usual
about the subject this year, and The
Ubyssey proposes to run a aeries of
interviews with students on tho matter. The present system will also be
dealt with editorially, and soma of tha
Faculty will be asked to give their
The first interviews Indicate a desire
for modification in some form. Neither the European system of having
one or two sets of examinations between entrance and graduation, nor
the plan of some American colleges
under which tests take place constantly, were recommended, but a
compromise between them seemed to
be favored.
Jack* Thomson, president of the
Men's Undergraduate Society, thought
that the European system might be
introduced in tiie Senior year. "Cramming for fourth year students is ridiculous," he declared. He believed
that more credit should be given for
essays and assignments,
Bob McLarty, Education, suggested
that the examinations should count
less than 50%. He, too, proposed more
credit for essays. For example, there
might be assignments every two
weeks ln some courses, and these
would be marked. He favored the objective type of examination in most
subjects. ;
Edgar Brown, Commerce, a senior
editor of The Ubyssey last year, said:
"Examinations are supposed to test
one's knowledge of the subject. They
don't. Largely, they test a person's
capacity for cramming. I would make
two suggestions: Abolish Christmas
examinations for third and fourth
year students and substitute essays.
There is no question but that tiie
writing of an essay is of more permanent value than cramming.
"Secondly, make existing examinations more intelligent. Failing 45%
of a class (as was the case in one
upper year class this Christmas) is a
silly proceeding. This particular class
is no dumber than previous classes,
and such a result shows there is
something wrong either with the examination or the professor."
Basketball Pep Meeting
Tuesday, Noon
Competitors for roles In the Spring
play were reduced to two for each
part as a result of the preliminary
try-outs of the Players' Club held
Wednesday afternoon.
The part of the leading lady, Alice, will be played by either Marjorie Ellis or Betty Jack.
Betty Wilson and Nance Carter
are trying for the part of Amy, the
dramatically sensational daughter of
Alice, Amy is aided and abetted in
discovering and hiding scandals by
her friend Ginevra, who will be
portrayed by Nancy Symes or Dorothy   Lees.
As Richardson, the Cockney slave
girl, "who grows wistful at sight of
food," Swanhild Mathison and Margaret Stewart show some promise.
For Alice's husband, the bluff Indian Army Colonel. The judges are
undecided between Jack Ruttan and
Ivan P. Knight. Both these men
will be remembered from last year's
Spring play, "The Young Idea," as
will, also Marjorie Ellis and Nancy
Alistair Taylor, the only actor
from the Aggie faculty, and Art
Bagnall, are both trying for Steve
the bashful young man who finds
himself named as a secret lover.
As Cosino, Amy's sixteen year old
brother who fears that his father,
the Colonel, may kiss him, Rann
Mathison and Harold Lando are still
in the running.
Director Sidney Risk says that on
the whole the try-outs were quite
promising and is hoping to turn out
another finished production in
Brown and Missouri Universities Offer
Graduate FeUowahlpo In All
Albertan Paper
Raises Question
Of Honorariums
Considerable discussion took place
in the University of Alberta when
the following editorial appeared in
the columns of the "Gateway:"
"The question of Student Honorariums has been revived again in
a motion carried at the October 26
meeting of the Council. It is one
which may be considered from several angles, and decision in any one
direction is correspondingly difficult,
especially for The Gateway Editor.
"In the February 3, 1930, minutes
of the retiring Students' Council appears the standing resolution "That
an honorarium of $100.00 be given to
the Editor-in-Chief of The Gateway." The motion referred to above
reads: "That this Council favors the
principle of Student Honorariums."
We wish to discuss the principle (insofar as The Gateway is concerned)
from our own point of view.
"It is quite true that the Editor-
in-Chief has one of the most responsible, if not the most responsible
of the positions, it is in the power
of the Union to award; it is also
true that the time required of, and
the nervous strain occasioned the
Editor are probably much in excess
of that asked of any student official
(with the possible exception of the
seasonal "spurts" required of the
Treasurer of the Students' Union).
There are weeks In which he must
miss not one, but several important
lectures in order that a weighty item
may be properly dealt with, and not
even an honorarium of several hundred dollars can be considered fully
adequate by an Editor who loses a
year on the paper's account.
"Despite these truths, we are
against an honorarium as some recompense to the Editor (who gains
much in other ways, of course) unless his .staff shall also receive some
token of the Union's appreciation of
its work.
"Over fifty people are engaged in
the publication of The Gateway (believe it or not!): some of these (notably the News Editors) spend at
least as much time as the Editor-
in-Chief in the v/ork of the paper.
Only three awards of The Gateway
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Holiday Trip to Michigan
Impresses Local Student
With Differences in U.S.A.
American Student Life Not Similar to Collegiate Doings
In Canada, States traveller
A holiday trip to Michigan furnished a U.B.C. student with
some interesting impressions of American university life, as
seen in Ann Arbor where the state university, accommodating
some ten thousand students, is situated. Hie city of Detroit
also boasts a college with a registration of as many more.
> The campus of the University of
Michigan is striking and spacious. The
buildings are large and numerous aa
compared to those at U.B.C., though
some of them, the Library especially,
are not so beautiful The Michigan
Law Buildings, however, are celebrated for tho fine architecture. There
are League buildings for both man
and women, weU-equlpped dormitories, and many fraternity and sorority
houses throughout tho town.
A fine new structure is being
erected for student pubUcations. Tho
Michigan Daily not long ago demon-
stratod the power of the press by
waging a war on some of the taxi
companies (there are no street oars in
Ann Arbor), as a result of which fares
are now stated on the outside of aU
The visitor claimed to have realised
a life-long ambition in seeing several
men attired in the traditional college
racoon coat American students, how*
ever, are generally not so well
dressed, though they are more sophls-
cated than their brethren across the
border,  , ,
"School" and "Campus" replace the
term "Varsity"' in the east. "Homework" and "Teachers" were the other
terms which shocked the Westerner.
Drinking, appears to be prevalent,
six fraternity houses having been just
re-opened, after having been closed
some time ago by raiding police officers for violation of the Volstead Act.
The question of women smoking does
not appear to be a Uve issue, as It is
the accepted thing,
Students are not permitted to drive
cars, foUowing a serious accident sevi
eral years ago, in which several
undergraduates were involved. Thia
rule holds only during sessions on the
campus and in the town.
Pleasant Uttle Ann Arbor has a
wide-spread reputation for immorality. One theory is that freshmen,
having read their tabloids diligently,
begin their college career by doing
as the Romans are said to do—and
continue the practice.
The American craze for footbaU is
well demonstrated here. Athletes are
favored in academic and economic
respects. One footbaU star, It is said,
holds down a job as doorman at
the Michigan Union. Many stores display autographed pictures of these
The local movie palace, the Michigan, is weU patronised by the students, who deUght in coming in late
and expressing themselves emphatically or flippantly about the pictures.
"Opportunities for wider study and
research are of course greater at a
larger and wealthier institution," tho
Ubyssey was told. "But I think they
have more fun in a smaUer one."
The visitor met and talked with
many thinking people in Ann Arbor
and Detroit. It was found that a surprising amount of prejudice exists
against Oreat Britain. "Who won the
war?" is still a live topic. Regarding
present  depression,  several be-
Lists of graduate scholarships and
fellowships offered this year by the
University of Missouri and Brown
University have been received by
the registrar.
The University of Missouri offers
to promising graduates of Standard
universities a large number of scholarships, bearing each a stipend of
S300, while to students who have
successfully completed at least one
year of graduate study, a number
of, fellowships bearing an annual
stipend. of $600 are available. In
addition to these, many graduate
assistantships or teaching fellowships are available. These awards
may be made In many departments,
including Biological and Physical
Sciences, Mathematics, and Engineering, Philosophy, Education, Journalism, the Social Sciences,'Languages, Literature and Art, Agricultural
and Medical Science, and Home.
Scholarships in Brown University
available to graduates of any college
for study in any department, number twelve. Assistantships number
forty, while fellowships open to
graduates of any university number
twenty-nine, ranging from five hundred to one thousand dollars each
per year. In addition, one fellowship of fifteen hundred dollars is
open to women graduates of any
Further information regarding
these awards may be obtained by
writing to the Dean of the Graduate
School, University of Missouri, Columbia, Missouri, or to the Registrar
of the Graduate School, Brown University, Providence, R. I. Applications will be received until March
2,   1932.
Orders for books -are swamping
the Book Exchange, which is again
operating under the supervision of
Ken Beckett.
The books previously quoted as
necessary are still required and the
Exchange is urgently in need of
Jane Austin, "Pride and Prejudice;"
Economics 4; Mathematics lb; Philosophy 8 and French 2 books. There
has been a strong demand for
French 1 and History 1 (Shapiro's
"Modern History").
All students having books which
they do not need, but which are in
demand at the Book Exchange, are
urged to dig them up and put them
on the market.
*,* w.^»«
Press Despatch
Predicts Storms
Ahead For U.B.C.
According to Thursday night's Vancouver Sun the Governors of the
University have been instructed to
cut their next year's estimates for the
University by a sum representing almost one-half of the present appropriations.
The same despatch offers a variety
of suggestions as to the manner in
which such a cut could be absorbed
by the University. It is pointed out
that a reduction in the salaries of the
staff of the college would not begin
to take care of so large a decrease.
The closing of tht departments of
Agriculture, Commerce and Nursing,
it is said, would be one way which
might possibly allow the budget to
be balanced. Another possible remedy
mentioned would be the elimination
of the final years leading to the Arts
degree. According to this plan only
the fllrst and second years of Arts,
which are those having the greatest
enrolment, would be retained. Students wishing a degree, therefore,
could take the two primary years of
study in Vancouver an^ *^en travel
elsewhere for the remaining credit
necessary for a degree.
That the student fees be raised as a
solution to the difficulty is not considered   feasible   by   those   who   are
acquainted with the situation, the re-
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lieved that the state of affairs—a tremendous amount of unemployment,
many bank failures, the bankruptcy
of great cities,—is tending toward revolution in the United States.
Prof. Delavault Leaves For
Monsieur Delavault, assistant in
the Department of Modern Languages, has resigned and left Wednesday night for France via the Panama
He lias been suffering from a nervous breakdown since the second
week of October, and since the
weather here did not seem to agree
with him, decided to return to
France with his wife and three
children. He will have a forty day
sea  voyage.
M. Delavault came to the University to classes in Conversational
French in 1923. He was soon appointed to the regular teaching staff.
Many students who have taken
courses from him will regret his
resignation as he was one of the
most popular men on the staff. He
took a great interest in extra-cur-
ricullar activities as he acted on the
Advisory Board of the Player's Club
for a year and produced a Christmas  play   in  1929.
There has been no appointment
made to fill his place as yet. \
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Student!' Council has recently enacted a
ruling which states that all athletic teams travelling from the University must he accompan-
Fed by either a member of Faculty or a member of Council.
Since this mandate of Council was passed
at a meeting during the Christmas holidays
the Ul>yisey was, not privileged to hear the
discussion or to learn the reasons which prefaced its passage. There are, however, obviously two points to be considered in relation
to tiie question. First: is it necessary that anyone other than the actual members of the team
should be present to represent the University
on athletic tours? Second: if it is essential
that someone should go, who is the right person?
While it is doubtless desirable that there
should be someone to travel with teams who
may perform the functions of a manager, make
speeches at banquets and generally represent
the University, it is open to question whether
tiie desirability is of such degree as to warrant a large expenditure of student funds. It
can hardly be supposed that a group of athletes who have demonstrated the adherence to
purpose necessary to secure a place on a touring team, will be so lacking in common sense
as to jeopardize their chances of success by
irregular conduct during the tour. Furthermore, it ic entirely prdbable that the great majority of athletic aggregations chosen to repre-
-se»(rV.BrC. would include at least one man
qualified to make after dinner speeches and
suitable utterances of gratitude to athletic
hosts. Again, since travelling teams usually
meet with adequate hospitality and cooperation, it should generally be possible for some
one of the athletes themselves to attend to the
details incident to accommodation and preparation for games.
If it is absolutely essential that a manager
or disciplinarian should travel on athletic excursions, who should be the person privileged
to enjoy a trip with all expenses paid by the
student body? The new regulation suggests
that a member of Faculty be chosen whenever
possible. Does Council admit that it is necessary to send along a grown-up to look after the
kiddies? Would not the students, whose
money pays the piper, prefer to be represented
by one of their own number? Contacts, at
least in intercollegiate affairs, will be largely
with other students rather than with Faculty
members and a student representative would
therefore seem more suitable.
Council believes that if a Faculty member
cannot travel, one of the Councillors themselves
should be the official representative. In most
cases, no doubt, a member of Council would
be an excellent representative and a capable
manager and disciplinarian; nevertheless these
trips are normally regarded as something to
be desired and it would seem that managers
or coaches should be considered as having
some claim to such privilege. Councillors do
receive some semblance of reward for the
many onerous duties which their positions entail in the form of experience, prestige, complimentary tickets and the customary awards to
'A' office holders. Unpaid coaches and more
particularly managers of teams do a great
deal of work and seldom receive a reward of
any kind whatever. Should they not be entitled to at least an opportunity to share in
these excursions?
B. A. C.
Something or other appears seriously to
have affected the morale of the two junior
years this Christmas. More than half of them
have gone as lambs to the slaughter into the
ordeal of term examinations, and less than half
have survived. The question now resounding
over the  campus  is,  "Who hath  done  this
The most popular attitude, especially among
upper classmen, seems to be that "It's a disgrace." What kind of morons, they wonder
audibly, have we admitted to the fair regions
of our Alma Mater, that they should thus blast
our scholastic reputation in the eyes of our
peers? More than half of our new classes
hopelessly funked at the first trial—disgusting!
Disgusting is the word. But perhaps there
is another class of persons who have even a
better right to use it than the fortunate few.
What of the unfortunate B.A.C.'s who have
been sacrificed so summarily to the Moloch of
It has been asserted, not without justice,
that by these means it is possible to eject the
Many will remember the address given in
Arts 100 by Sir Barry Jackson during his last
visit to Vancouver, The noted producer is in
;    I the city again, with a talented
Free company of players.  This week
Advertising they are presenting "The Barretts of Wlmpole Street" at the
Vancouver Theatre—a play based on the love
of Robert Browning for Elizabeth Barrett. City
papers have given it enthusiastic reviews.
Next week the company will play "Yellow
Sands" and Sir James Barrie's "Dear Brutus."
Students would be well advised to attend as
many of these performances as they can. Such
opportunities are few and far between.
The above, of course, is free advertising for
the Vancouver Theatre, given simply because
the offerings of this excellent company should
be brought directly to the attention of the
student body. Theatre managers have been
very backward about advertising in The Ubyssey, a co-operative and courtesy service which
students certainly deserve. We can all look up
current attractions in the daily papers at home
or at boarding houses, if we want to, but it
would be much more convenient to have the
information in our own publication. Furthermore, this would emphasize the offerings, and
we would be more likely to attend them.
*   *   *
A stranger reading the Players' Club story
in the last issue might picture Professor Wood
as an extremely aged and venerable gentleman, thoughtfully stroking his
The Players' long white beard as his mind
Club roams back over past decades,
and he "is also able to remember the names of his original cast."
Such, of course,.is far from being the case.
Professor Wood directed the Club, however,
for well over one decade. During this time
the Club increased in importance and prestige,
and in the scope of its work, until it now goes
on extended summer tours and makes joyful
the hearts of A.M.S. treasurers.
The Players' Club has a long list of successfully produced plays to its credit, but one is
always hoping that sometime it will do something more original, more unusual, than has
generally been the rule. However, "Alice Sit-
by-the-Fire" no doubt is, as the article says,
"highly amusing and interesting."
An outstanding feature of the production is
that Sidney Risk, who graduated in 1930, is
director. He is well qualified for the position,
and all will wish him well. His appointment is
a good move. If the actual direction of plays
were entrusted more to students and recent
graduates, the Club would add to its usefulness and increase the interest and satisfaction
of students in its work. This is a daring suggestion to make about the great Players' Club,
which owes so much of its success and present
position to the energetic guidance of a professor—but I think there is something in it. The
idea should be quite practicable if applied to
the Christmas Plays, at any rate.
0     0*
And now to finish up Mr. Hawes and his
"Twenty Years Among the Twenty Year
The author heaves a bouquet
Finishing Up at Canadian fraternities, but
Mr. Hawes when he speaks of "Queens at
Hamilton in the Province of
Toronto," one may be pardoned for suspecting
that the main fact in his knowledge of university life in this country is that the cash keeps
flowing in from the loyal Canadian chapters.
Light is thrown on the origin of the initiation ceremonies that exist in most North
American universities. Early American colleges, we are told, were based on the English
public schools, and adopted initiation practices
from the latter. As the colleges became universities, initiation was retained, and survives,
much modified, in many places to the present
day. However, at Harvard, the most eminent
American university, there is no initiation, and
even the term "freshman" is not used.
Students have absolute personal liberty
there, and while there are many clubs, few
fraternities exist.
Regarding personal liberty, Mr. Hawes
says: "Repression, discipline, seems to be the
whole idea of certain gentlemen who make the
most noise in educational circles, or at least
the bulk of the noise which reaches the outside world. They forget, or have not the capacity to realize, that involuntary discipline, regulations, arbitrary outside control and fanatical
prohibition and destruction of this and that,
are not worth a nickel for educational purposes or for training our future citizens."
For which sentiments one can forgive the
gentleman much.
usual college quota of drones and loafers. But
no account is taken of the number of hardworking students who have failed to make the
grade, and who are unceremoniously shunted
out with an unpleasant stigma attached to
their names thenceforth. Perhaps the authorities wish to display the fact that more than
half of the Freshmen and the Sophomore Class
are loafers and drones. Such a state of affairs would assuredly be a disgrace to any university; but such a state of affairs does not exist at U.B.C.
The fact is that limitation is necessary, and
that this appears to be an effective method of
dealing with the problem, from the authorities'
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Friday, January 8, 1932
Ste—Tuesday, January 12. Time-
noon. Place—102 Applied Science
Speaker—Dean Brock.
Subject—The Occupations for Which
an Applied Science Course Furnishes
the Best Education.
Forest Club meeting Tuesday noon,
Jan. 12, Ap. Sc. 285. Mr. R. V. Stuart,
Sdy. Mgr., B. C. Loggers' Assn., wiU
speak on Trend of Stumpage Values
on the Pacific Coast. All interested
■. : -.ilil-inii ;n iii, i   f \\iy.   ■•
First  regular meeting  of  Parliamentary Forum this term will be
held on Tuesday 12, in Arts 100 at
7:80 p.m.
Professor Day will officiate as
speaker. The subject tor the next
Forum is—Resolved! "That human
progress Is a delusion." The Governmental end will be ably upheld
by such stalwarts as N. Nemetz and
P. Campbell, while the opposition
will be led by J. Shaneman and
Elspeth Lehman.
The students who are to represent
the University in the coming debate
with the University of Winnipeg wUl
have been chosen by Tuesday and
will be present at the Forum.
All students are invited to attend
the Forum on January 12.
The next meeting of "L'Alouette"
will be held on Tuesday, January
12, at the home of Mr. Shanneman,
2446 West Sixth.
The Historical Society will hold
its first meeting of the New Year
on Monday evening, January 11 at
the home of Mrs. R. L. Reid, Wesbrook Crescent. Isobel Bescoby will
read a paper on "Golden Cariboo"
and a full attendance of members
is desired.
A. I. E. E.
There will be a meeting of the
student branch of the A.I.E.E. on
January 11 at 7:30 p.m. in Mech.
Eng. 111.
D. Smith and G. Brown will give
papers. Moving pictures may also
be shown if arrangements are completed. All intending to take electrical engineering are especially invited.
The Philosophy Club will hold its
annual banquet on Thursday, January 14, at 6:80 p.m., at Union College. The charge is 40c per plate.
Every member of the club Is asked
to co-operate with the executive.
Members may bring a friend on this
occasion. Please advise Wm. Selder,
president or Gertrude Day, secretary, so that ample preparations may
be made.
k C. V.
The Varsity Christian Union began
its new year with i well attended
meeting on Monday noon, Jan. 4th.
The members are looking forward
to tiie many interesting activities
which have been planned for the
Spring Term and are anxious to share
tho benefits and pleasures which
these promise.
All those interested are urged to attend the daily noon-hour meetings,
held in Arts 204, where a hearty welcome awaits them.
Meeting, Tuesday noon, Mech. 100.
The Biological Discussion Club will
meet for the first meeting Of the term
at the home of Mrs. H. B. Armitage,
3529 West First Avenue. The paper
for the evening will be given by Miss
Florence Grove.
Vanished   From   Gym—Write   and
Dltson TopfUte tennis racket, stamped
J.H.B. J. Bardsley, Chem. 5 Lab. or
Sey. 3563 R.
LOST—During examinations, black
fountain-pen with initials on gold
band. Finder please return to book
Economic History of Europe, second
hand. Will any one who has a copy
of this book to sell get In touch with
Bay view 580 L.
Wednesday, January 8,—small gold'
wrist watch on black ribbon. Finder
please return to Ann Hartley, or to
A fountain pen (orange trimmed
with black),. Finder please leave in
bookstore, or communicate through
letter rack.—Nancy Ferguson.
News & Views
Of Other U's
The first meeting of the term will
be held at 8 p.m., Wednesday, January 13, at the home of Professor
Owen, University Lodge. Miss May
Fairfoull will read a paper on
"Ancient Ships", while Miss Kathleen Greenwood's subject will be
"Methods  of  Naval  Warfare."
First turnout for this term wiU
be held on Tuesday, January 12, at
8:30 p.m. All members please attend
as this will be a real stiff workout
to get everyone in good shape.
There wUl be 12 turnouts this term,
ending March 29.
The University Art Club has partially completed its program for the
Spring term. The first meeting takes
place on Tuesday evening, January
11, in the Board Room of the Vancouver Art Gallery, Georgia Street,
at 8:15 p.m., when Miss Sing, in
charge of the Art Department of the
Vancouver Public Library, will give
an address on "Art Books and Periodicals." It will be followed by an
exhibition and discussion of a representative collection of this material.
Members of the Club, and its
friends, are requested to take this
as a notice of this event.
The Letters Club will meet at the
home of Mrs. E. A. Lucas, 2047 West
Thirty-fifth Avenue. Bob Wallace
will give a paper on "The Moscow
Art Theatre." Get off tram at
Strathcona East or Kerrisdale car
at West Boulevard, crossing to East
There will be a general meeting
next Monday, January 11. Sbme
changes in constitution are proposed.
All members are asked to be
The list of students graduating
this year, according to the records
of the Registrar's Office, has been
posted up in the Quad. Any student whose name is on this list, and
who does not intend to graduate this
Spring, or any student whose name
is not on the list, and who does intend to graduate, will please report
to the Totem staff immediately. Any
changes in the list must be made
at once, before the layout is arranged.
LOST—Brown Waterman's pen, in
Library. Please return to Pub. Office.
Economy at Urslnus
"In spite of the new economy program at Urainus this year, it is rumored that soup and hash will not
be served oftener than twice daily."
8 Miles High
The town of Hanover, New Hampshire, requires all eligible Dartmouth
students to vote in order that it
may collect a poll tax from them,
ln retaliation the students attended
a town meeting, where they introduced and passed two bills, proposing the building of a wall around
the town eight miles high and the
to the Senior Prom," the sophomore
council at Lehigh gave gratis hair-
construction of a city hall one foot
wide and a mile high. Hanoverians
had to take the affair to Washington to get out of building the two
structures. — Lehigh Brown and
freshman had already invited a girl
"Despite protestations, almost tearful in some cases where the unlucky
Sophomore Barbers
cuts to six unfortunate freshmen as
punishment for petty offenses. Freshman sentiment rose to such a point
that one of the victims obtained permission to speak in chapel against
the council. The Frosh have organized a protective committee for their
own good. »
West Princeton
"Student drinking at Princeton is
worse than at any other University
in the country," said Dr. Leigh Col-
vin, national prohibition party leader. Only six American universities,
he added, have the problem of student drinking to any large extent.
He blames Princeton's condition
largely on alumni who return to
the campus for celebrations.
She Lives at Fraternity—But
She Is He
AMrs. Helen G. Harter was the
name listed in the University of
Michigan  directory.
A perfectly Innocent name to all
appearances. But a great rumpus
was raised when it was discovered
that Mrs. Harter was living at the
Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house.
However, Mrs. Harter denies all.
"She" claims that the name is all
wrong, that "she" Is not a woman,
and that the name is Helon and not
The record low standard of language has been reached on the college campus, according to the President of the University of Southern
California. In a recent address he
pointed out that of the average vocabulary of 500 to 600 words of the
common laborer, about half makes
up the college freshman's vocabulary. The word "swell," he finds, is
used to describe 4972 situations. One
of the chief causes for this low
standard is the trashy material in
the newspapers.
Harvard vs. Oxford
The first intercollegiate debate
ever held over the radio between
different countries will take place
the first week in December, when
Harvard contests Oxford. The subject of the debate, "Resolved, That
in the interests of world prosperity,
the war debts should be cancelled,"
was chosen by G. W. Wickersham,
chairman of President Hoover's com-
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Editor,. Ubyssey:
Dear Sir:—The book exchange seems
to have been fairly successful—why
does not some ambitious student establish a personal property exchange
where one could trade ln Christmas
presents—or, indeed, any articles—
that are not satisfactory For example,
your News Manager was complaining
to me the other day about the color
of a tie that was presented to him
during the late festive season. Now
if this Personal Property Exchange
were in existence, he could go there
and change his tie for one that harmonized with the color of his eyes to
better advantage, Old socks and other
clothing could be turned in and either
Canada's National
We carry a full line of
Fountain Pens — Parker,
Waterman, Shaeffer and
traded for something else or retailed
for a smaU price. Profits, If any, could
go to the A.M.S. coffers.
Yours sincerely,
Irtliah (Tflinmbia
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Second Term Fees
Now Due
All cheques must be certified and made payable to
"The University of British Columbia"
Arts and Science      $60.00
Social Service Course $60.00
Applied Science  $85.00
Agriculture  $60.00
Nursing  $60.00
Teacher Training Course $35.00
Last Day for Payment
January 18
F. Dallas, Bursar.
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We wonder
Who wrote
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Pub news
Not fit
Your ears.
We wonder why
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Things of
This is a
Wonderful  Place.
Editor in Chief, "The Ubyssey."
Dear Sir—After watching with Increasing awe and amazement the succession of defeats that have been
chalked up against the Varsity Basketball team in the last week I would
Uke to make a few enquiries through
the medium of your august journal.
In the nirst place, who was responsible for sending the squad east
with only seven players to undertake
a schedule that was almost prohibitive with a complete list of substitutes? If it was because of the failure
of the student council to allow a large
enough grant to send the entire team,
then the council must take on its
shodlders the responsibility for the
loss of the prestige gained by the
basketball squad last spring.
The loss of the game in Winnipeg
to the University of Manitoba practically meant the loss of the Rlgby
trophy, which we won last season.
Are the other basketball titles going
to follow the Intercollegiate championship this year, and is the sport to be
relegated to the position it held before
April, 1031? Unless tho basketball
team, the student council, and the
student body, as a whole, are prepared to show far more enthusiasm
than has been existent to date, we
might just as well kiss the Montreal
cup and the Chesterfield trophy goodbye.
W. P. A. S.
Wilf. Lee—Do you ever go crazy
when you see the moon?
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Beginners Friday, Jan. 15th, at
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Douglas 800 or Douglas 2900
S to 7 p.m.
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Special attention to Varsity students.
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464 Granville Street
Phone: Seymour 155
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with Fully Qualified Operators
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Among the more academically inclined students at U. B. C. are some
who may somei day become assistant
instructors at this or other colleges.
As assistants it is probable that they
wUl liave to supervise Examinations,
To such students the foUowlng extracts from the official document issued to invigilators at this university wUl doubtless prove enlightening.
Under the heading "Conditions
Contributory to Good Invlgllation,"
and devoid of ail excess verbiage Is
found tiila interesting treatise on
the esseritiali of good invigUation.
"The function of an Invigilator
is to invigUate. For the proper fulfilment of this funotion certain conditions are necessary; and for the
proper guidance of the Invigilator
these conditions may be enumerated
as follows:
1. "InvigUation" connotes not only
intensive supervision during the actual period of the examination but
also, (a) adequate preparation for
the orderly seating of examinees,
and (b) the distribution of the necessary booklets, papers, etc., so tfiat
each examinee may have ah opportunity of starting the examination
on time and without any unnecessary nervous strain. Hence it follows that a condition of good invigUation is the presence of the invigilator weU ahead of the time sat
for the actual examination to begin.
A good Invigilator would allow himself or herself a minimum margin
of ten minutes. A better Invigilator
would extend this margin. Tho in-
vigUator in charge of the arrangements for tiie examination period
would certainly be wise not to limit
himself or herself to the minimum.
2. The second conditition of good
InvigUation is continuous InvigUation. There is nothing which mttlta-
tates against the proper fulfilment
of the invigilator's function like discontinuous or spasmodic invigUation.
The good Invigilator will regard
himself or herself not as a prisoner
nor yet as a jailer but rather as an
attendant and attentive shepherd.
3. A third condition of good invigUation is the actual presence of the
InvigUator. This is even more important than continuous invigUation
for it is obviouh that if there were
no invigilators there could be no
invigUation, continuous or otherwise.
It is true that proxies are allowed
but the invigilator ought to guard
his or her honour by taking extreme
care that the proxy is a substitute
who wUl do him or her credit, who
will be thoroughly acquainted with
the conditions of true InvigUation
and who will perform the duties of
invigUation as well as, if not batter
than the original invigilator would
have been pleased to do.
4 A fourth condition is the good
co-operation of invigilators. This
does not mean that they should Invigilate in groups, localise their activities to one spot or discuss the
condition proper to true invigUation
while the examination is in progress.
It means simply that once assigned
to a certain part of the examination
room by the invigilator in charge
they will not increase their range
unduly or unnecessarily but shall
make their respective areas their
own special province and care.
| 5 While good invigUation may not
i be jeopardised!by certain intellectual
pursuits or pastimes there are some,
however, which positively destroy it.
For example, just as no good invigilator would prepare himself or herself for invlgllation by wearing bod-
nailed or squeak'"Soes so no alert
invigilator woulu bring to the examination room his interest, commendable though it be, in the technique and literary qualities of detective and crime fiction. No objection can be urged, however, against
the exercise within the examination
room of such powers of detection as
the invigilator may happily possess.
Indeed, the true art of invigUation
may be defined as the detection and
prevention of any proclivities to a
peculiar though not unusual form
of adolescent delinquency.
The above conditions are necessary
for good and proper invigUation.
Instinctively the good invigilator
will recognize them and fashion his
invigilation accordingly. The bad or
inefficient invigilator will not."
On page two are tabulated the
duties of the above-mentioned invigilators. The document reads:
"When two or more invigilators are
gathered together there shall be an
invigilator  in charge,  etc,  etc.  etc."
Ed. note. Which was to be proved.
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why the music stopped altogether.
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W. H. Payton, who has been visiting here this week, is the present
editor of the Toronto "Varsity" official publication of the University
of Toronto. Probably no Canadian
paper has had a more spectacular
history than the "Varsity" which
celebrated Its fiftieth birthday last
year, having been founded in 1880.
"The ideal of the free expression
of opinions; the belief that only in
untrammeled discussion can any
approximation of the truth be
reached; and the fond contention that
open and vigorous discussion is
never Inexpedient—these are the underlying ideals of this publication,
and have been for fifty feverish
years," declared A. E. F. Allan, editor, last year.
Toronto was one of the last universities to bow to the co-educational movement, but when the
matter did come to the fore, the
"Varsity" gave its support to the
cause. ,
In 1894, in connection with refusal
to permit two radicals to' address
the Political Science Club, The Varsity inferred that the President had
been influenced by the* Theological
coUeges, and that two professors
were not Christians. The editor
agreed to retract, but his Board refused, and he resigned. His successor was suspended, but continued
as editor.
At the same time the' paper sided
with a professor who had been discharged, and the student body went
on strike. On the promise of an
investigation, the strike ended in a
week's time.
The Faculty Council offered to reinstate the editor if he would publish a retraction from his predecessor, but he refused, and was
never re-instated. Students petitioned the government about these
matters, and in the ensuing investigation the authorities won a superficial victory. A few years later the
University Act was completely
Religion was a frequent topic before the war, and in 1913 it was
stated that the majority of undergraduates are "un-rellgious and unmoral; and by this we do not mean
Irreligious and immoral."
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"A" are made each year (and we
are strongly against any increase in
the number:  the award is the most
hard-won and the most exclusive
decoration on the campus); it is obvious that a lot of hard work Is not
recognized in tangible fashion' by
the Union. Rugby, hockey, or other
athletic teams receive trips or banquets and sweaters ftr ■ their services; The Getaway Staff, despite a
large surplus, pays for a party out
of its own pocket! This is a manifest injustice.
"We strongly recommend a choice
between these two: That instead of
giving tho Editor-in-Chief an honorarium of $100.00, ihe CouncU use
that sum in giving the staff a dance
or a banquet.
or, ■•
That If the Editor must be given
said honorarium, the staff be given
the dance or banquet suggested in
the first choice.
"There can bo no good reason advanced for a premium placed on
athletic prowes displayed for a few
months, when at least simUar recognition is not granted the session-
round mental and physical efforts of
so important a Union body as The
Gateway  Staff."
Returning from a visit to Seattle,
a student informs us that we don't
know much about depression in
Vancouver. He noticed that many
of the stores are closed. It looked
as though the owners had simply
turned the keys in the locks for
lack of business, and gone home to
bed. One of the largest theatres
has shut. Closing out sales are numerous, but there are few buyers ln
spite of the bargains.
The lumber Industry, he says, is
In terrible shape, much more so than
in British Columbia. The depreciation of the Canadian dollar partly
accounts for this.
Canadian holiday trade and patronage was very meagre during the
of hundreds of thousands of dollars
that would otherwise have been
spent in the American city.
In 1913 pacificism was .given'holiday season,^ resulting In the loss
editorial support. Then' came the
Great War. In February, 1914, the
paper had declared that "patriotism
is, at the basis, little more than the
petty prejudice of a primitive mind."
The Varsity maintained a sane attitude during the first years of the
war, while beUeving in the British
cause and forecasting a long struggle. The tragedy of war was played
up more than the glory, but later
on the glory of serving one's country began to be given more stress.
Professor Reich was asked for an
article, and stated that the Germans
considered they were also fighting
in self-defence. The "Mall and Empire" took exception to this, and a
disturbance resulted at the end of
In October of that year, an editorial said: "While the British cause
is just, we should like to repeat that
there is a strong case which commands the attention of Germans the
world over."
In December, 1914, The Telegram
and The World tried to have three
German professors discharged. The
Varsity declared it would be just
as fair to dismiss King George for
having a cousin who started the
war. Finally the professors were
given leave of absence. d
By the last year, however, a
harsher tone prevailed, and it was
declared that the Germans wanted
peace to escape punishment for their
unspeakable   crimes.
No disturbance in The Varsity's
history had equalled the one that
broke out in 1929. There had been
trouble two years before, and minor
flurries in the fall of 1928. Then
came L. J. Ryan's editorial, "To Pet
or Not to Pet," which aroused a
storm of controversy and was taken
up by the downtown press. Ryan
ran a series of strong editorials, culminating in a discussion of the
meagre salaries of his staff, and
charging lobbying and misrepresentation on the part of officials and
student executives. He was dismissed.
The whole staff went with him,
and The Adversity came into being
on a page of The Toronto Telegram,
A new staff manned The Varsity,
and charges and counter-charges
flew thick and fast.
A demand for an investigation into
the affairs of student government
arose, and resulted In many constitutional charges in the official
student governing bodies.
Students will remember the tremendous furor of last spring, when
A. E. F. Allan's editorial on atheism
in the university was misrepresented by city papers, one of which
favored something akin to a crusade against the University. This
editor also went to the guillotine.
The above are some of the highlights in the history of The Varsity,
the present editor of which has been
visiting The University of British
Columbia this week. Its tradition
of free and outspoken discussion has
survived many crises and will no
doubt continue to govern its policy
as strongly as ever.
Scholarship students are advised
that their cards are now ready at the
Registrar's Office, and are requested
to call for them as soon as possible,
This is very important as delay may
cause inconvenience to other scholarship holders.
News and Views
Of Other U'i
(Continued from Page Two)
mission on law enforcement, The
entire expense of the affair (835,000)
will be borne by the N. B. C. over
whose short-wave system the debate
will be broadcast.
Ripley at Boston U.
"Santa Claus has an official United States postoffice; chop suey was
invented by an Irishman in San
Francisco and there are more Indians in America today than in the
days of Columbus," according to the
famous "Believe It Or Not" cartoonist speaking at Boston University.
Every time I've been fired, I've
found a better job," he said. Santa
Claus is a midwestern vlUage of 47
inhabitants, which Ripley came
across and made famous by mailing
all of his Christmas cards from its
Eddie Cantor
A Temple University student ln
interviewing the famous comedian
found that he liked college students
and that in times of depression it's
harder to make people laugh.
Sleeping In Library
Three slips and you're deprived of
the use of the library at Junfata.
Every time you fall asleep there
you're presented with a "sleeping
slip." Too many students dozed off
and snored and the reclining position took up to many chairs.
Bryn Mawr's Freshmen
They number 100. They come from
71 schools. Twenty were first In
scholarship in their preparatory
schools. Sixty-three per cent live
within 100 miles of the college.
Their average age is 18 years 2
Women In Bull Sessions
Two psychology students at Duke
experimented to find out how long
it took the normal bull session to
turn to subjects concerning women.
The average time was six minutes.
Their method was to go to a room
and start a conversation about anything but women.
.... Speaking of football, we notice that the Brown eleven includes
a Tom Sawyer, and Yale boasts a
Carl Sandburg; but the winning
numbah goes to Vermont with a
Tom Collins on the team. If you
don't know your Tom Collins, ask
Dad—he knows. Boston U. Walrus.
Don't Work, Borrow
The Comptroller at Penn State believes that students should borrow
money rather than work their way
through college. Students who work
their way, he contends, lose valu
able contacts gained  during leisure.
Huddling for Prayer
Vera Schaeffer, the only native
German attending Temple, frankly
admits that the first time she attended a footbaU game and saw the
players huddled together she thought
they were offering a prayer in unison.
I'The officer of, the; day entered a
guardroom and fount) It empty except for a private, Who, stripped to
r# thirt and trousers, was lounging
onr a chair, smoking a clay jpipe.
"Where's the sergeant of the guard?''
demanded the officer angrily. "Gone
across to the non-coms' mess to
have a drink, sir," replied the
"And the sentries?"
"In the canteen, sir."
"Then,, confound it, what are you
doing hare?"
"Me, sir?" was tiie.J-epiy, "I'm the
prisoner."—Toronto Globe.
•  •  •
Murphy had booh earless hi handling the blasting powder and Duffy
had been deputed to break the news
gently to the widow.
"Mrs. Murphy," said he, "isn't It
today the fellow calls for the weekly payment for Murphy's life insurance?"
"It is," answered Mrs. Murphy.
"Well now, a word in your ear,"
said Duffy. "Sure ye can snap your
fingers at the fellow today."—Montreal Star.
• •  •  •
The Investigator —I'm looking up
the standing of Tom Torporsoo of
your town.
The Postmaster—He don't do much
.>»__»'. You'll^flnd Ijlm slttln' round.
"What yer looking so gay about
Patsy? Yer'U get a Ucking when
yer go home for going ln swimming."
"Oh, no. I told dad I had been in
swimming and got, the Ucking before
I left home. Now'I can swim without anything on my mind."—Nelson
News  (B.C.)
•  •  •
Red: I see where lots of firms are
cutting   down  their  advertising.
Blue: Yeah, doing it in times like
these is on a par with taking the
worm off the hook and fishing with
a safety pin!—Pathfinder.
Hefflr Oiir Team
On the Subject they
will Debate with
tl. of Manitoba
•■  i    i i'.
.       J :     :
Arts 100' Monday Noon
;f',»-.'j.'.ti-ljtfJt.  t't'Sua'l.tut'f^i   oin^i   -i*.
Mm. Peater-vOh, dear! We'll sooi
be old. Don't you often yearn for the
mturn of ohlldhood days?
Her Husband—Betcher life I do. , I
wasn't married then.
A woman arriving in this country
after a short visit to the Continent
was asked the usual question by
the Customs official at the landing
port: '.'Anything to declare, madam?"
"No," she replied, sweetly, "nothing."
"Then, madam,' said the official,
"am I to take it that the fur tail
I see hanging down under your coat
is your own?"—Everybody's Wookly.
(Continued from Page One)
port states. Fees at U.B.C. are already
higher than in other Canadian colleges. This fact was mentioned by
W. H. Payton, editor of the Toronto
Varsity, during his recent visit here.
Payton stated that the tuition fees
at Toronto were only $75.00 per year
for students in Arts. This compares
with $125.00 as the recently raised
fees at U.B.C.
The story in the Sun features the
fact that "Friends of the University
in close touch with the situation express alarm for the future of the Institution" and it is suggested that possibly complete closing would be the
only way in which the college could
come within the reduced grant.
A rumor reaching the office of the
Ubyssey tells of a plan bejng on foot
to close the University for a period
of three years or until such time as
the provincial financial situation is
materially improved. No great credu-
lence is given this story yet it is
thought that such a plan may have
been suggested In official circles
and that this gave rise to the rumor.
/4«3<3iE Ball
WHEN it comes to that
tell-tale indication of
your familiarity with the social
graces it is gratifying to know
that you take no chances in
choosing your wedding stationery here.
Prospective brides may with
assurance of correctness place
the important question of the
production of their wedding stationery in our hands.
Only the finest quality work, withal we save you money.
Point Grey News-Gazette
Kerr. 115 - Bay. 3237 2182 West 41st Ave.
*tsS&tfL. if
Friday, January 8, 1932
Varsity soccer squads will swing
into action again on Saturday when
tho Senior team encounters the Chinese Students' aggregation at Kerrisdale Park and the Juniors tackle
Rovers on the Varsity campus. Both
games should produce some good
football aa tha teams have been
strengthened since their last engage-
meats. With tha addition of the veteran Cy Manning, hero of many first
division battles in the past, the Senior aquad wtil present one of the
strongest Blue and Oold sides seen In
aotlon for some time. The Orientals
have alwaya made things interesting
tor the Collegians in the paat and
Saturday wtil aae tho Varsity boys out
to revenge a 2-0 defeat which they
suffered on the last occasion whan
the two teams mat at tha beginning
et tho season on Cambie Street
grounds. Last year tha Varsity team
beat tha Studanta on two occasions,
and they do nit intend to let the
Orientals reverse tho count this year,
Tho Senior team wtil probably Una
tip as foUowsi
Goal: Fate Frattinger; fuU-backs:
Millar MeGlU and George Grant, half-
baoka: Cy Manning, Paul Kozoolini
Arehle McDougal; forwards: Jock
Waugh, Otie Munday, Ernie Costain,
Pave Todd, Laurie Todd. Reserves:
Jimmy Smith and Bud Cooke.
The line-up of tho Junior team is
not yet known.
The Senior game starts' at 2:30 p.m.
sharp and Manager Cooke wants
everybody out on the field by 2:15
The Junior team will line up with
Shayler in goal, Roper and MacLeod
at back, Kincade, Cy Smith and F.
GOuminlouk, halves, while the forward line will be composed ot Hughie
Smith, Orme, J. Mundle, Atwater, and
C. Ramsden. The game starts at 2:30
.fin!.tha campu*.
Track Club Has
New Instructor;
Workouts Start
"Varsity's Track Club is getting
under way for the second and most
important part of its season," stated
Ralph Thomas, president of the
Club, in an interview granted the
press. "Workouts are to be held in
the'gym, and will commence Friday,
January 8, at 4:30 p.m."
Under the expert leadership of
Mr. A. N. Brandreth, Thomas expects his fleet-footed squad tod shape
well, and looks forward to a most
successful term.
Mr. Brandreth is Supervisor of
Physical Education in Vancouver
schools. Being keenly Interested ln
'track work of all kinds, he has generously offered his Invaluable services to the Varsity Club, and is
greatly appreciated by the boys. It
is hoped that a large number of
trackmen will turn out to benefit
by this exceptional chance of learning from a first-class Instructor.
Anyone seriously interested in keeping physically fit will be welcome in
the gym at the above hours.
As In previous' years, the Cross
Country race will be the first event
of the spring season. This race will
be run on February 3, and is to be
followed at a later date by the historic Arts '20 relay. For the latter
race the course extends from the
old Fairview building to Point Grey
each class entering a team of eight
Still later in the season, the inter-
faculty and inter-class meets take
place 'and are followed by a return
meet with the College of Puget
Sound. The five mile Dunlop Road
race on Good Friday will complete
the year's  activities.
Varsity Grid
Club State
Spring Plans
Both morning and afternoon practices will be held by the Canadian
Rugby Club this term, it was decided
at a meeting of the-club Wednesday.
It was announced that Dr. Burke
and Mr. Price will alternate at coaching for the morning practices while
members of the Big Four team wiU
do the instructing at the afternoon
sessions which will take place on
Wednesday and Thursday at 3:15.
AU those intending to turn, out are
advised to see Al Pyke aa soon aa
possible and get their strip. Pyke wUl
be in the strip room every noon.
Freshmen wishing to turn out for the
first time are advised to get in touch
with Johnny McLean or Al Pyke as
soon as possible.
As the Big Four team la to travel
east next year, a spring training period has been arranged, lasting from
February 21 to March IS, when only
those players eligible for the trip
wiU bo coached by Dr. Burke and
Mr. Price. Material will be selected
from those playing Canadian Rugby
this season. At the end of the spring
training the annual Arts-Science grid
classic wiU be played.
The schedule for the intercoUegiate
series next year was announced as
follows: Oct. 8—Saskatoon; Oct. 10—
Winnipeg; Oct 15—Edmonton.
U.B.C. Hoop Squad
Wins Two Games
In Saskatchewan
Saskatchewan Champions Defeated 31-11
By U.B.C. Before Crowd of 1500 in Regina* At "Pi" Campbell. Osborne* and
Mayers Star
,i       i
Moose Jaw Team Defeated 55-27 as Vanity Opens Up Whirl*
wind Attack and Scored Almoat at Will
Blue and Gold Squad Lose First Game o! Intercollegiate
Series to Manitoba 29-28—Coaat Boys Fight Valiantly But
Are Dogged by Hard Luck—Armstrong Out of Series
With Sprained Ankle
Dazzling forward for the Varsity
Senior "A" team will be back in the
game with his team mates in Tuesday
night's battle against the Portland
team, Cy was unable to travel east
on the tour, but is raring to get back
in the game and will prove a lot of
worry to Multnomah basketers.
Playing in their true ityle at last, the Blue and Gold travel*
ling basketball squad finished their schedule of exhibition
games by trouncing the Regina Caps 31*11, and swamping the
Moose Jaw squad 55*27; and after fighting valiantly against
overwhelming odds, almost defeated the University of Manitoba
team despite the severe handicap under which they found
themselves, the score being 29-28.
The Varsity boys uncorked the snappiest basketball of their
Western tour against Miles Cook's Regina quintet before an
excited crowd of 1500 fans,'playing a whirlwind, systematic
attack which gave them a 12*6 lead early in the first stanza.
The score stood at 13-7 at half-time with Varsity never in danger, and in the second canto the Saskatchewan champions were
outscored IM.
Science' 34
And Teachers
In Victories
The Inter-class Soccer League got
away to a good start this year when
Education downed Arts '33 and Science '34 triumphed over Science '35.
Both games were decided by a* 1-0
Education scored ln the first five
minutes of the game and from then
on seemed content to merely hold
their own by staging an occasional
rush into undergraduate territory.
Arts '33 played a sound defensive
game wjiich accounted largely for
their defeat. With the exception of
Cec Ramsden and Rod McLeod on the
left wing tho forwards failed to
accomplish anything and wasted several golden opportunities. John Mundle at center and George Grant in
goal turned In good performances for
the Teachers.
Science '34 also scored in the opening minutes of play with the advantage, however, of Being faced by a
mere handful of Science '85 players.
Despite the handicap of an Incomplete
side, the latter managed to hold their
own and even came very close to
scoring. With the arrival of the remainder of the '35 team the gome progressed with both sides having their
share of the play.
Arts '35 meet the Theologs today at
3 p.m. and Arts '35 will make their
debut against Arts '32 on Monday at
The large-sized floor seemed to suit
the U.B.C. lads who showed great Improvement over their previous performances of the tour. The game
was fast from the start, and was an
exhibition of good, clean sportsmanship. Doug. Bruce, the 6-ft. 4-in.
centre, and Alex Shields, were the
pick of the Regina Caps, while "Pi"
Campbell, Wally Mayers and Bob Osborne were outstanding for the B.C.
Monday the eleventh at four-thirty
is the time set for the next class
of the Women's Gym Club. The
regular weekly class will be resumed, and a full attendance is
hoped for.
Members are reminded of the
coming skit at Hi-jinks and are
urged to keep in practice in order
to gain a part in the display, Miss
Harvie will choose those who are to
Any girls wishing to join this term
may do so on payment of a small
fee. Enquiries should be made of
Joan Campbell, president.
In the Moose Jaw encounter on
Tuesday, the Blue and Gold quintette
played heads-up basketball to trounce
tho Moose Jaw lads 55-27 in a brilliant exhibition of attack and precision which bewildered the local
boys. The game opened 'fast with
Moose Jaw obtaining the ball from
thc tip-off and scoring In the first
minute of the game. They repeated
a moment later with a long shot
from the side before the U.B.C. boys
opened up their withering attack and
popped in one basket after another
to put them in the lead, 22-8, at half-
time. After the interval, play became
rough with hard checking on the
part of the Moose Jaw lads. The
speed of the Blue and Gold aggregation was sufficient to overcome the
rough play, however, and baskets
were scored almost at will
Campbell, Wright and Osborne were
thc high scorers for Varsity, and
played stellar basketball throughout.
January 16—Vancouver vs. Incogs;
Crusaders vs. Varsity.
January 23—Crusaders vs. Cricketers; Vancouver vs. Varsity.
January 30 —Incogs vs. Cricketers;
Vancouver vs. Varsity.
League Standing
W. L. D. F. A. Pts.
Crusaders 5    0    2   25    8   12
Vancouver  3    3    0   18   20    6
Cricketers  2    3    2   20   17    6
Incogs 2-3    2   13   21    6
Varsity 1    4    0    3   13    2
Track workouts in the gymnasium
will start Friday .January 8, under
the leadership of Mr. Brandreth. A
large turnout is expected. Strip and
running (shorts are  required.
Playing against a sharp-shooting
University of Manitoba team in the
first game of the western intercollegiate schedule, the U.B.C. Canadian Champions lost by the heartbreaking score of 29-28. Playing in
their sixth game in seven days the
Blue and Gold squad fought valiantly
in the dying moments of the game
and almost turned defeat into vie
Ptory. The record of the touring col
legians now stands at three games
won and three games lost.
The U. of Manitoba carried a brilliant attack against the U.B.C. boys
in the first half and with the master-
is accompanying the U.B.C. basketball
team in the capacity of trainer. He
is doing a lot to keep the boys feeling
fit and in condition for their strenuous schedule. Dr. Thorpe was with the
boys last year too when they won the
Dominion championship by defeating
the St. Catherine's Grads.
Tlie following will represent Varsity in a Grass Hockey game with
Cricketers, Saturday, January 9, at
2:30 p.m., Connaught Park. Jakeway, Ritchie, Delah, Barr, Lee, Punnett, Le Page, Lee, Selder, Knight,
Semple.    Reserves,   Holmes,  Masters.
ful playing of Alex Nltchuk and Alex
Carrick they outscored the B. C. Students 19-10 by half-time. In the second period the Varsity boys fought
valiantly with a desperate attack
which just failed to overcome the
Brown and Gold lead.
With seven minutes to go, Varsity
cut Manitoba's lead to three points.
At this time "PT'Campbell was sent
off for personals and Armstrong, who
had an off night and who had been
yanked earlier, was sent on in Campbell's place at centre.
Armstrong sprained his ankle on
the first jump and Varsity took time
out. As there were no substitutes
available, Armstrong was put under
the enemy's basket. He will be out
of play for the rest of the series,
leaving five men on the U.BC, squad.
With resumption of play after time
out, Nicholson for Varsity scored a
foul shot to reduce Manitoba's lead
to two points. The Brown and Gold
crew tallied another basket to put
them four points up but Osborne came
right back and scored one for Varsity with less than a minute to play.
With Manitoba leading by two points,
Nicholson was awarded a technical
foul for coaching and converted it into
one point to end the game, with the
score 29-28 for Manitoba.
The fact that Varsity had not a
suitable substitution proved their undoing ln such a critical moment, and
the strenuous playing and travelling
schedule must also be taken into consideration. Under such adverse conditions, it was a tough game to lose,
but Varsity played inspired ball and
fought desperately until the last moment.
The Blue and Gold's inter-coUegiate
schedule is to be finished by Saturday. They play University of Saskatchewan at Saskatoon tonight and
then travel to Edmonton to engage
the University of Alberta on Saturday.
Members of the U.B.C. team are
Nicholson, Osborne, Mayers, Armstrong, Mclntyre, Wright, and Campbell.
Varsity's chances of retaining the Rigby trophy are now
somewhat remote, and it would appear that this is largely due
to the fact that the University was unable to send a sufficient
number of players to insure adequate representation. Considering that all of last year's talent was again available this year
with a good deal of new talent besides, such a state of affairs
appears somewhat strange. We recognize, of course, that the
"eligibility rules" account for the absence of some of the available talent, but at the same time we can think of some of the
Senior "B" men who would have come in very handy in the
last seven minutes of the game with Manitoba when Armstrong
was forced to play with .an injured ankle. We wonder how the
team is going to manage now that there are only five men
available for the remaining inter-collegiate contests with
Alberta and Saskatchewan.
While the need for some means of setting the standard
of scholastic achievement amongst the athletes representing
the University is self evident, we submit that the present
eligibility rules constitute a system which is altogether too rigid.
In the first place it rests upon the examination system which is
in itself of debatable value, and in the second place it does not
afford the athletes sufficient opportunity to recuperate from
possible disaster. If a man fails to obtain his standing at Christmas he is in many cases forced out of major athletics for the
balance of the year, as there is at present no general system of
mid-term examinations. A fairer system would be the recommendation system whereby the athletes could be rated by the
professors with whom they come in contact in the course of their
academic work.
Badminton Club
Prepares   For
Spring Season
Ian Campbell, President of the
Badminton Club, announces that
from now on playing nights will be
Mondays and Wednesdays from 7:30
p.m. into the night. All the teams
are requested to be out next Mon-1
day. Due to noticeable 'improvement in non-team players it is likely that several re-arrangements will
be made in the two "C" teams. In
future all players will be selected
only from their showing in practices
which they are advised to attend
regularly. At present the personnel
of the three teams is as follows:
"B" team—Phae van Dusen, Irene
Ramage, Hope Palmer, Ellen Gfeed
Terry Holmes, Ian Campbell, Ken
Atkinson, Paul Kozoolin, and Denis
The two "C" teams-M. Wilson,
M. Winter, R. Winslow, R. Whit'
back, M. Palmer, M. Moscrop, M.
Manning, F. Tremalne, B. Pound, F,
Beaugardis, W. Tremalne, T. Shiels,
J. Wrinch, J. Savage, R. Moore, O.
Weld, T. Langton, A. White.
League matches wUl start in the
near future and aU tho teams feel
confident that they can eclipse their
respective performances of last term.
The men of the "B" have already
began training for the B. C. Championships which take place in February,
New members may play for the
rest of the season for the smaU sum
of two dollars. Several members
have just taken up the game for
the first time and a few others are
expected to start soon. Beginners
who. signify their intention can have
good coaching supplied them gratis.
Freshmen and Freshettes are especially advised to join the club at
this time, for it will give them a
sound foundation for next season.
Coach of the Blue and Gold Basketball Club has been indirectly responsible for success of tho boys on their
eastern tour. He deserves great credit
for the wry in which he spent so
much of his time in coaching the
team before they left on their trip.
He will take the boys in hand again
as soon as they get back to their
home town.
WIN 35-20
Varsity's small, but tricky band of
Senior "B" basketers started the
second half of the V and D schedule
with a bang Tuesday night when
they outplayed Harris Paint to win
Despite the long Christmas layoff, both teams were in fair shape
and maintained the fast pace set at
the start, Both teams checked heavily and the baskets were few and
far between. At half, time the count
stood 11-8 in Varsity's favor.
Soon after the start ot the second
half, Rami Mathison and Jimmy
Bardsley got their eyes on the basket and began to pop in shots from
all corners of the floor, After piling
up a safe lead, the students were
content to rest on their laurels and
finished on the long end of a 35-20
Varsity: Chodat (2), McLeod, Lucas (1). Matthison (15), McDonald
(2), Bardsley (12), M, McDonald (2),
A.  Clarke   (1).
Cup Squad
Is Named
Varsity's team to travel to Victoria
for the second McKechnie Cup
match of the season on Saturday,
was announced this morning by
Coach E. L. Voe. The1 team will be
vastly different from that which
played Vancouver in the opening
game on Armistice Day, on account
of Injuries.
Ken Mercer is lost to the team
through a bad leg, Senkler suffered
a broken angle in a club match,
McConachie broke a leg in a "rep"
match, while Moyes, Chodat and
Waimsley are out for other causes.
The team to play In Victoria will
be as follows:
Cleveland, fullback; Dalton, Murdock, Gauld, Phil Barratt, A. Mercer,
three-quarters; Ellis, five-eighths;
Tye, half-back; Robbins, Mitchell,
Hedley, Nixon, Brown, Rogers and
Pearson, forwards.
The Multnomah Athletic Club, crack
Portland basket team, will provide the
opposition for the Blue and Gold
Senior 'A' squad on January 12 In tho
Varsity Gym and the game is expected to provide some of the snappiest basketball seen in these parts for
some time.
Basketball ln this locality has been
mostly defensive, with low scores and
slow games, whereas the American
variety is based on fast breaking plays
and the ability to work the ball
down into enemy territory before the
opposition has time to get on the offensive. This speeds up the game
and provides plenty of thrills.
The U.B.C. boys learned a lot about
American Basketball tactics when
they played the University ot Washington in tho Christmas hoUdays,
which wiU be of great assistance to
them in their games against Portland. Besides this Varsity has a sound
knowledge of defensive ball as weU aa
their newly acquired system of fast
breaking ball both of which should
prove a strong threat to the Multnomah quintette. s
Tuesday's game wiU see in action aU
of the senior 'A' men such as Cy Lee,
Truck MacDonald, Harold Straight
and Gordle Root as weU as those who
took the trip east, Jack Waimsley of
gridiron fame will also appear.
When the Varsity English Rugby
squad opposes Victoria in tho second
of the McKechnie Cap contests this
season ,the students will be out to
show just what they have learnorl
from coach "Buck" Yeo in the last
three months. The collegians' mentor has been doing wonders with
the squad and the boys may ba able
to turn the trick in the Capital City.
Class  Athletic  Reps,   and  players
are asked to take note of the following games to be played in the gym
at noon on the dates stated below.
January 8, Sc. '35 vs. Sc. '34
January 9, Arts '34 vs. Sc. '32
Monday and Tuesday games will
be posted and the complete schedule
will be published in Tuesday's Issue
of the Ubyssey. Everyone but Senior
"A" players are eligible to play in
these games.
10th and Sasamat
Phones: DAY, ELL. 1531
NIGHT, BAY. 8350
A, G. Spalding A
Bros, extend to
you hearty greetings for a Happy
and Prosperous
New Year.
A. G. Spalding
& Bros.
424 Hastings W.
Trin. 5401 Trin. 5402
You Meet
The Gang
At Scott*s
FOll YEARS, this restaurant
has been one of the favorite
meeting places for U. B. C.
students. They like the comfortable arrangement of booths,
its friendly atmosphere, the
reasonable prices charged.
So, come in and let's get acquainted. We make you very
722 Granville Street
The genial Blue and Gold Canadian , Rugby coach, who next fall
will face the task of conditioning
the Varsity aggregation for the long
and strenuous journey to the prairies, where the coast squad will play
the annual intercollegiate contests in
defense of the Hardy trophy.
University Book Store
Hours: 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.; Saturdays, 9 a.m. to 1 p.m.
Loose-Leaf Note Books, Exercise Books and Scribblers
at Reduced Prices
Graphic and Engineering Paper, Biology Paper.
Loose-Leaf Refills, Fountain Pens and Ink.
Pencil and Drawing Instruments.
Crepe Paper for Masquerades, etc.


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