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The Ubyssey Nov 14, 1961

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No. 24
—Photo  by  Barry  Joe
VICTORY is what these girls see in thejr teacup cum crystal ball. Home Ec Home Wreckers
outnumber the Panhandlers from Nursing here but they'll be evenly matched in the annual
Teacup Tussle sponsored by the Engineers^Th ursday noon. Proceeds go to March of Dimes.
Players from left to right, are: Marilyn Maddock, Home Ec 4; Carol Wauton, Home Ec 4;
Amy Nuttell,  Home Ec 4; Sherry Galen,  Nursing 1, and Pat Wray, Home Ec. 3.
Campus buildings 'disjointed
sweatshops   say architects
Architecture students are
up in arms aver the design of
new buildings on the campus.
They use adjectives like unimaginative, disjointed and
ugly when they point to certain buildings.
What's the cause: too many
fingers in the pie, the architects say.
"Take the new medical
complex, for instance," says
third-year president Terry
Tanner. "It looks about as
utilitarian as a steel smelter.
"It hits you like the old
Victorian idea of sweatshops."
*   *   *
Put in another budding
architect, "Every time I go by,
I'm surprised there aren't
doctors coming out a conveyor
belt with 'made in Japan'
stamped on their ends."
There are very few buildings at UBC that are un-
offensiye, according to the
They lay the blame for the
condition the campus is in,
architecturally, on the interference architects   are  forced
to run. Building a typical
campus structure, they figure
an architect has to try to
please eight groups, including
committees and individuals.
*   *   *
"There are committees for
drapes, committees for paint,
committees that remind the
architect about radiators and
file space and committees
that merely pick the building
up and tell the architect to
build it somewhere else, that
a new parking lot is going on
the space he thought he had,"
Bob Hassell, Arch. 3, said.
If there was one person
who was set up as the "client",
representing the University,
the nebulous entity outside
parties presently contract
with,  the class believes UBC
SUS    symposium
seeks    scientists
Science students wishing to attend the Science Undergraduate
Society symposium Saturday or
Sunday, should see Doug. Staley
in Brock 210 from 12:30 to 2:30
would get better results for
its money.
"We need something tangible to deal with," Tanner
"And equally important,
the architect would be responsible to this one person for
what he did.
"He would also be free to
conscientiously keep an eye
on contractors, to make sure
they use the required materials and carry out instructions without snortcuts," Tanner said.
Another architect complained about the low esteem
jn which UBC holds architects.
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Bob Hassell pointed out
what the class considered the
best  building  on campus.
"The power station behind
the engineering building: nobody much had any ideas on
it and we wound up with a
clean, fresh structure. No
porcelain panels, like the
Buchanan annex and the
medical buildings, and no
AMS to hire
to plan SUB
Student council Monday night decided to hire a building
consultant to assist the Student Union Building committee in
planning the new student centre.
The motion came to the full   ^______—..^^«_____^___
council from a Saturday morning discussion group made up
of councillors and members of
the Student Union Building
The discussion group decided
they wanted a philosophy of
"unity" to draw students from
the whole campus to the building.
The hired consultant is to assist the Student Union Building
committee in evaluating the
needs of the campus.
Cornwall said he has received
replies from four  possible  consultants who have been contacted.
He said the students have to
present their own ideas beforehand but the consultant can
draw on his own experience.
Ubyssey editor Roger McAfee
said the consultants' experience
will enable him to project the
campus' present needs into the
Student treasurer Malcolm
Scott said the students have to
find a crieria to evaluate the
The consultant will not necessarily be director of the completed  building,  Cornwall  said.
He said the "unity philosophy"
• a bringing together of the
academic interests of the university.
• an opportunity to express
ideas, ideals, and philosophies,
"getting to know aspect."
• opportunity to meet not only students, but faculty and
He said it would be a student
union and not a campus community centre and outsiders
would be brought in for the
program, not just for congregation.
Architecture Undergradu ate
Society president Nick Bawlf
said the building would have to
have something to offer the individual, and not just the group.
Finance board set to
chase jM*** hmtkJ
Finance   committee
the following motion:
"In future, U-boats be hired
for all boat trips undertaken
by the Alma Mater Society
representatives where the
expenses for these trips are
paid by the Society on the
specific authorization of the
Finance   Committee."
Well, that's what it says.
A MS loses
$3,672 by
grad fee cut
Alma Mater Society revenues"
will drop by more than $3,600
if the Graduate Student Fee
Reduction referendum is passed
by students Thursday, student
treasurer Malcolm Scott revealed Monday.
When the referendum was
first presented, and failed, last
month, Scott said (he reduction
would amount to only about a
$1,200 cut in AMS revenues.
"The net apparent revenue
decrease that would result is
. . . likely to be approximately
$3,672," Scott said Monday.
"This sum is approximately
1.23 per cent of the total AMS
fees that will be collectible this
Scott said that figures released to him by University
registrar John  Parnall showed:
Family dines'
in auditorium
Jean Anouilh's famous comedy "Dinner with the Family"
will be presented by the Players
Club, under the direction of
Ray Brinson, Wednesday to Saturday.
Tickets for the play, which
will be presented in the auditorium, can be obtained at the
AMS office or at Modern Music
for 50 cents. Curtain time is
There are 206 students in
second or higher years of a
master's program of which 12
do not pay AMS fees. Of the
remaining 196 (sic) students, 186
pay $16 and 10 pay $24 which
i decreases the revenue by $3,216,
| There are G& first-year PhD:
j students, of whom 19 have
i previously paid an AMS fee re-
j suiting in an additional decrease
of $456, giving the $3,672
The sum is approximately 30
per cent of the total amount
paid by Graduate Students,
Scott said.
"I would like to state I personally feel that this Referendum should not be regarded as
working a hardship on the Society by way of lost fee revenue
but rather as relieving many
Graduate Students of an inequitable fee burden," said Scott. Page 2
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Ottawa, and for payment of postage in cash.
Published thiee times weekly throughout the University year . in
Vancouver by the Alma Mater Society, University of B.C. Editorial
opinions expressed are those, of the Editor of The Ubyssey and not
necessarily   those   of   the  Alma   Mater   Society   or  the   University   or   l'..C.
TELEPHONES: CA 4-3242, loeals 12 (news desk),
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Editor-in-Chief: Roger McAfee
Managing  Editor Denis  Stanley
Associate   Editor        Ann   Pickard
News Editor  Fred  Fletcher
City Editor Keith Bradbury
CUP Editor       Bob  Hendrickson
Photography Editor Don Hume
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Layout: Donna Morri&
REPORTERS: Pat Horrobin, George Railton, Sharon McKinnon,   Joy   Holding,   Ruth   Tate,   Ian   Cameron,
Lloyd Drake, Bob Cannon. Krishna Sahay.
SPORTS: Deskman, Chris Fahrni; Bert McKinnon, Glen
TECHNICAL: Brenda Van Snellenberg, Pauline Fisher,
Kitty Watt. 	
Authors of the various "philosophies" on UBC's proposed
student union building have made a horrible, and we feel
serious oversight. In this day of modernization and progressive thinking, the keen minds behind these proposals
have omitted that cornerstone of many European univrsities
—the pub.
It's getting so a student on this campus can't have a quiet,
peaceful bottle of beer without the local gendarmrie, in the
form of scout-hatted RCMP officers, "throwing down" on him.
Worse than that, the object of the student's pleasure is confiscated, as "evidence".
That being the case, most students adopt the eleventh
commandment, "Thou shalt not get caught," and confine their
"communion with the spirits," to those havens of solitude,
the various wooded areas on the campus and, in some cases
their rooms in the camps.
We don't advocate the unlicenced consumption of alcohol
' on this campus, but rather we believe it's time it became
licenced. Surely, as university students, we should be aware
of those great. new forces in education — modernism and
enl^htenment. University students should be the first to
throw aside that "Victorianism", "Alcohol ruins the moral
fibre of mankind." Excess alcoholism does, but then so does
excess eating, excess sleeping or excess in almost any form.
There are many advantages to having a pub on the
campus. Profit from the sale of the beverages could be used
to finance the venture. Prices would, of course, be slightly
higher than at the Georgia, but then what student would
object to paying an extra few cents for a flagon, if he was
saved the trouble of a trip downtown?
Another intellectually and physically stimulating pastime
in many European pubs is a game called darts. Players stand
and hurl midget, feathered spears (about six inches long) at
a circular target, nine feet away.
A word of caution; make sure the dart board (usually
the target) is placed against an unbreakable wall (not glass).
It may sound easy to hit a 12-inch target from a distance of
nine feet, but it requires considerable skill, especially if the
game takes place immediately following a "round the table
In the new student union building certain members of
the student body have suggested an area be set aside for
discussion with faculty members. They go on to say that it is
very difficult to entice many of their professors into the
Brock Cafe.
When one considers the refreshment served in the cafe
it's quite understandable that the Brock cannot compete
With, say, the Faculty Club. However, with the installation
of a pub in the new student union building, we feel that many
faculty members would be much less adverse to "having one"
with his students. On the student of course!
Who knows, marks on terms papers might jump 10 per
Many of the undergrad presidents have stated their
respective groups would not use the new facilities to any
great extent unless it had features not found in their own
common rooms. The Ubyssey feels that a pub would be a
definite drawing card in any new building, and engineers,
aggies and foresters would feel right at home.
Do we hear someone mentioning the law? Well, that is
a problem. It seems that everyone must abide by it (unless
, one happens to be a minister of highways).
In that case students over 21 could be issued with special,
colored AMS cards. They could be pink with a picture of an
elephant superimposed on the writing.
Tuesday,  November  14,  1961
By Bob Gaytoh
Make  them  pay
The Graduate Student Fee
Reduction Referendum failed
in two ways when it was last
presented. Too few students
voted to meet the quorum requirements and those that did
vote, voted overwhelmingly to
approve the fee reduction.
The referendum will be presented again Thursday and
this time the quorum requirement should be met but we
don't believe enough publicity
has been forthcoming concerning the merits oi the proposal.
We are definitely against the
reduction of the Grad Student
fee. If the grads have the
exclusive privilege of using the
Grad Centre as a private club
they should pay extra for it.
Fraternity    and    International
House members have to pay
extra for their facilities.
If the referendum is approved, we car^ see no reason
why members of the medical
undergraduate society, and the
B.Comm.-C.A. students should
not receive a reduction. This
is obviously an absurd suggestion but holds as much merit
as the fee reduction for the
Grads already have parking
privileges and the exclusive
right to reserve a carrell. Undergrad parking fines pay for
the potection of their parking
facilities and the administration no longer issues earrells
to fourth-year students.
This has gone far enough.
The    administration    is    at
present trying to set up a
Graduate School hut they appear to be doing so at the
expense of the undergrads.
Why don't they abandon their
policy forcing Graduate students to pay the $12 Grad
Centre fee? We would like to
see a good grad school established at UBC but the bill
should be paid by the administration.
We already contribute to the
cost of erecting University
buildings. Must we further
subsidize the administration?
The grads are using facilities other than ihe Grad Student Centre which were built
with student money, and must
therefore, we feel, continue
and respect the student tradition.
Grad students' view
Grad    contribution    high
Recently there have been
discussions and news stories
concerning graduate student
"activity" fees. The Graduate
Student Association feels that
it should present its reasons
for requesting an alteration in
the AMS fee schedule for its
Graduate student participation in clubs, athletics, and
student government and the
use of AMS facilities in general is small compared to the
participation and use by the
bulk of the student body. The
activities and program of the
AMS are directed mainly at
the undergraduate population.
This is as it should be because
the majority of graduate students are simply too busy with
their study and research to
participate in extra-curricular
activities even though they
support the principle of student government and student
organized activity programs.
Over half of the graduate
students have received their
undergraduate education at
UBC. They have contributed to
AMS activities and building
programs more than the average student on campus. It
would be very unfair to suggest that these students have
not contributed their share to
the University development in
the great UBC tradition.
For these reasons we feel
that graduate students should
not be assessed full AMS fees.
This principle has been recognized by all other major Canadian graduate schools. In these
schools activity fees vary from
zero to approximately fifty
per cent of the regular undergraduate activity fee. Even at
UBC this principle has been
recognized to a certain extent
in that Ph.D. candidates are
assessed an AMS fee only in
their first year of registration.
We feel that this concession
should be made to master
degree candidates as well.
Moreover since it is now possible to proceed directly to a
Ph.D. program without first
acquiring a masters degree we
feel that all graduate students
should be assessed AMS fees
only in the first year of registration in the Faculty of Graduate Studies. This proposal is
the one you are asked to approve on Thursday when you
vote on the Graduate Student
Fee Reduction referendum.
In the arguments presented
thus far the new Thea Koerner
House, Graduate Student Centre has not been considered.
The GSA, in fact, requested an
alteration in AMS fees almost
two years ago, before the Centre was even in the construction stage. Unfortunately little
notice was taken of our request
at that time. Now with the
opening of the building the
problem has become more
Membership in the GSC is
compulsory for all graduate
students and they are assessed
an annual $12 fee to help defray operating expenses. We
feel that this fact is not generally understood by the majority of the student body. The
income from these fees only
partially covers the cost of
operation and maintenance.
The remainder is made up by
University Administration subsidy. Since the GSC provides
graduate students with their
own Union facilities it is unreasonable to expect them to
continue to use and to support
other Union facilities on campus.
L.W&?   \y
Then try The Ubyssey for fast,
fast, fast relief. Last month,
Student council tried to pass
a motion requiring The Ubyssey to print 50 column inches of material on the resubmitted grad fee referendum.
The motion failed. To date,
The Ubyssey has printed more
than 76lh inches on the referendum, all on its own, as
the thermometer clearly
shows. Aren't we nice?
Let us consider the activity
fee paid by an average graduate student who completes a
masters program in two years
and continues his study at the
Ph.D. level for an additional
three years. Until this year he
paid $64 for the five-year period ($24, $16, $24, 0, 0). At
present this amount is increased $12 a year by the GSC
fee for a total of $128 ($36, $28,
$36, $12, 12), which is almost
double the previous assessment.* If our proposal is accepted this amount would be
reduced to $84 ($36, $12, $12,
$12) which still Is more than
the assessment before Centre
was built-
To expect graduate students
to financially support duplicated Union facilities is an
injustice. Approval of the Graduate Student Fee Reduction
referendum will right this injustice. This is a matter of
concern to all students on
campus. They all can and
should vote. They should also
realize that they are potentially future graduate students
themselves although they may
not think so at the present
<£stisih to fcditoh
Not using both
The  Ubyssey.
Dear Sir:
We would like to comment
on the views of Commerce
President Bob Gayton Esquire
(The Ubyssey, Nov. 10, 1961).
Mr. Gayton says that graduate
students should pay both AMS
and Grad fees because they
have the use of both Brock
Hall and the Graduate Centre.
He does not seem able to distinguish between "having the
use of both" and "using both".
Obviously no graduate student
would want to use Brock Hall
for he then would be forced to
associate with "resident lounge
lizards" and commerce men.
Apparently access to the
graduate centre has become a
highly coveted status symbol
for commerce undergraduates
who would be willing to buy
admittance but not earn it by
Graduate Studies ■<■'Tuesday, November 14, 1961
Page  3
By bob Mcdonald
Ubyssey Staff Writer
The place was Victory Square, Vancouver, B.C. The occasion
was a memorial service to commemorate the armistice and to
honour those servicemen who had died fighting for Canada. The
time was the morning of Nov. 11, 1961.
Suddenly it was 11 a.m., the eleventh hour of the eleventh
day of the eleventh month, chosen to symbolize the armislice
Flags were dipped, heads were bowed for two minutes and the
cannon blasted out in Stanley Park.
The men and women gathered there had come to honour friends,
relations, loved ones, husbands and sons killed in three wars: The
Big One, 1914-1918; The Last One, 1939-1945; and The Small One,
the Korean War, 1950-53. These people joined with others across
the nation to honour Canada's 104,000 war dead, mostly young
men newly risen to the full bloom of maturity. 104,000 dead and
these only a minute portion of a fantastic sum.
* * *
World War I formally began Aug. 4, 1914 with the declaration
of war on Germany by Great Britain. A little over four years
later, on Nov. 11, 1918, Germany accepted the terms of the peace
treaty, as set ddwn by the Allied nations. These four years ot
trench figteting, bogged down in mud and slime took an estimated '
toll of 37,500(000 casualties and civilian losses exceeded military
setbacks, Financially, war costs were in excess of $337 billion
' without including the costs of reconstruction and'reorganization
in damaged areas. ■     -
* * *
On Sept. 3, 1939, after 21 years of armed truce, a formal declaration of war was once again issued by Great Britain on Germany. The cost of this war could not be measured in such mathematical terms as battle casualties, dollar expenditures and similar
data. For often, civilian casualties exceeded military and the destruction of homes, industry and means of livelihood of millions
of people represented a greater monetary cost factor than the
support of armed forces. All too often it resulted also in displacement and dislocation of entire populations, while the sadistic barbarity and mass murders in Axis concentration camps seemed unbelievable in bur so-called civilized world.
During this six-year period until V-E Day, May 8, 1945 and
V-J Day, Sept. 2, 1945, 15,300,000 Allied and Axis troops died.
This figure does not include 10 million European, seven million
Japanese and one million Chinese civilians displaced who are still
not entirely relocated. Dollar expenditures, solely for military
purposes, were some $1,154 billion.
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This war was called the Last One. With the introduction of
the A-bomb, mankind could never have another like it. Yet he
came close. There was the'Small One in Korea.
Of this war I give a more personal example, a relation. A big,
good looking, Midwestern boy, he was an American office; six
feet tall and about 210 pounds. Taken a prisoner of war at the
height of the fighting he was returned after the truce weighing
92 pounds, his body emaciated and partially blind. He was fortunate. He recovered all but his sight. Many more, however, were
not so lucky. Physically maimed for life or simply deprived of
their sanity, they remain for us today as living proof of the horrors of war.
* * *
On this Remembrance Day, 1961, with so many people paying tribute to the "glory and honour" of the dead, where are Ave
again but on the brink of another war, World War III; a war which
science tells us could destroy the human race. We have submarines,
one of which carries more explosive power than all the bombs and
shells fired during World War II.
Yet still the-nations of the world continue to stockpile nuclear
warheads and to invent faster and more destructive methods of
chemical and bacteriological warfare.
Was it for "the honour and the glory" praised by so many that
these men died? Was it that we might "take up the quarrel with
the foe" that they sacrificed their lives? No! It was for peace, that
their children and their children's children might live, never fearing the privations and horrors of war as instituted by aggressor
totalitarian police states.
Yet we in 1961 are following the same path that the nations
of the world pursued in the thirties. We have our armed truce—
the cold war. We have Our parallel to the depression—we're suffering presently from economic recession. We have to replace
Naziism, an aggressor ideology in Communism, practised this time
by the U.S.S.R. instead of Germany.
We've had our Eisenhower to replace Chamberlain, fawning
and capitulating to Khrushchev instead of Hitler, and we've had
our inciting incidents of Hungary and Berlin to parallel aggression
in Czechoslavakia. We've had all the ingredients for war. All we
need for our "finishing" touch is for some assinine Churchillian
Goldwater to give the O.K. and we can watch a handful of strik-
first-and-take-'em-by-surprise generals blow us all to smithereens.
Yeats thought his death gyre would have run its full cycle
round by the year 2,000 A.D. and he may not be far wrong unless
some of the major nations of the world awaken to the situation at
hand, and take steps to correct it. This seems a negative and dismal
approach to the subject but these are negative and dismal times.
And considering these circumstances, the original news items
might have better read:
Photo   by  Don  Hume
THIS BOOK IS NOT BANNED on campus, but it's sure hard to
get a copy. Word has it that Ghick Whistles Bird Calls to the
uninitiated, should be. here today. It was supposed to be
here last Fj-iday.
UBC   law   students
win   "bean'   debate
UBC law students Friday
night won an international law
suit over expropriated coffee
beans in an annual battle of
legal wits against students from
the University of Washington
law school.
The contest over Castro-style
expropriation of a foreign-owned
coffee plantation in an imaginary republic was won by UBC
students Rolf Weddigen and
Frank Iacobucci.
They argued in favor of the
validity of an international sale
by the expropriating government of coffee beans grown on
the expropriated plantation.
The former owners had been
paid compensation but the government had levied a heavy tax
on the amount paid.
Guy Halverson, and John
Wheeler of the University of
Washington    argued    that    the
former owners were entitled to
the beans against a fellow countryman who had purchased
Both Canadian and United
States precedents were used to
establish the applicable rules of
international law.
The case was heard by a three-
man bench presided over by Mr.
Justice Dr. Verchere of the B.C-
supreme court.
The annual event alternates
between Seattle and Vancouver.
Riverside Recording Star
Coffee Rouse
726 Seymour St.
Open for Lunches
* -X
A girl's best friend is SPOTLESS, Vancouver's finest shirt
launderer. Heavy starch?
Light starch? Or no starch at
all? Your man's preference
satisfied. 3 shirts beautifully
laundered for only 20c each.
40 SPOTLESS Stores in Vancouver. Campus store, 4523 W.
for McGoun
Applications for the McGoun
Cup debating team are now
oeing accepted.
Trials will be held Thursday
at 8 p.m. in Bu. 203.
A UBC team selected from
applicants will debate both here
and in Winnipeg against other
university teams to determine
the western conference champion, and winner of the McGoun Cup.
The winner will then vie with
the eastern winner for the Canadian championship and the Mac-
Donald-Laurier trophy.
Applications for the trials
should be put in the Debating
Union Box in Brock by Thursday. " ;
Poland hosts
WUS semifiar
Application forms are now
available for the Thirteenth Annua! World University Service
Seminar next July in Poland.
Theme of the Seminar will be
"The Role of Science and Culture in the Development of Nations," and it will start with
orientation sessions in Montreal
the last week in June, 1962, and
will end the second week qi
Student applicants must be
enrolled in a regular -course of
study at UBC, be returning next
year, and must be willing to
serve as a WUS Committee
member next year.
Total cost to each participant
will be $250. Three delegates
will be selected from UBC.
Deadline for applications is
Nov. 20.
we   tell
little about PIZZA?
you   a
You know, there's PIZZA &
there's PIZZA! We don't
really know which PIZZA
our's is but you can be assured that it's the better -one.
We have done much research
into the subject of pizza, after hearing many customers
(at least 3 every day) tell us
they "don't like pizza." When
asked where they have eaten
pizza, 99 % say at other pizza
establishments in Vancouver.
While not being authorities
on other people's pizza, we
are just that on our own. We
can say with all honesty that
nobody's pizza is even similar
to ours in taste. We cry and
seem to succeed, in producing
a product of constantly higher quality and flavor than
anyone else's in town. So
please don't confuse our pizza
with any other in town. Ours
is sold at 2676 W. Broadway
ONLY. Phoine RE 3-9916 for
will show the Greek Motion Picture
The film  is  a   Greek  comedy  with   English  sub-titles
It will be shown at the
Hollywood Theatre
On Sunday, November 19th, 1961
Two Shows Only — 7-9 p.m. — 9:15-11:15 p.m.
Songs and Music by MANOS HATJIDAKIS
1960 Oscar award winner (Never On A Sunday) Comedian
1961 Stratford Festival award winner as the best comedian
for his part in "Young Lady's Fool."
Admission by Donations
Passes   available   at   Village   Cafe,   5778   University   Blvd. Page  4
Tuesday,  November  14,  1961
THE PRESS: Read all about it! Scientists say radiation is "NOT"
dangerous to man! Read all about it!
Thirty   years   later
rabble   rises   again
McGill University, Montreal
The latest event on rabble-rousing agendas is the protest
demonstration in the form of a 73-hour picket on the House of
Commons by members of the Combined Universities Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament.
Assuming that the antics of this organization will have any
world wide significance,, the situation brings to mind the British university pacifist movement of the 1930's. That petition,
circulated and signed by hundreds of thousands of collegians
and off-campus citizens created an atmosphere which must
have been taken into consideration by the British government
in their decision against a re-armament program as being practically unfavorable at that time.
Although Che present situation is not identical, the similarities are strong enough to advise serious consideration on
the part of prospective supporters of such movements as the
* *        *
The CUCND's cry to arms is "no nuclear weapons for
Canada". From the opening paragraph their particular arguments do not hold water. "The present government continues
to neglect rising public opinion" followed by "We, the citizens
of Canada, demand a decision now!"
The government is perfectly justified in not listening to
the howls of an unjudicious mob but instead biding its time
to formalize an intelligent decision.
* *        *
What force of negotiation would Canada have, with or
without the backing of a nuclear program, if the super-powers
are indeed "mad?" "We are duty-bound to demand that our
country has nothing to do with these murderous nuclear weapons." If the radiation fall-out from testing in other countries
will affect the Canadian population, how will it benefit Canada
to personally abstain from a testing program?
Canada, placed in its rather firmly fixed geographical context, and its population, will invariably be destroyed by the
radiation fall-out from bombs directed towards the United
Nuclear Disarmament group image
CUCND compared to Fascists
■'■■- The Varsity
University of Toronto
It is the most basic of propositions in the field of advertising that in order to sell a
product, it must be presented
in such a way as to make the
consumer identify with it.
Ergo, the spectrum of scantily-clad to fresh-a n d-whole-
some girds who grace the pages of magazines and newspapers, acorn billboards, and
enter your living room via TV
in conjunction with everything from sports cars to shoe
* *       *
The attitude of the great
preponderance of Canadians
on the question of armament
vs. disarmament is today one
of confused ambivalence. On
the one hand there is an . almost universal abhorence of
the prospect of nuclear holocaust, on the other the appeal.
of the nebulous 'stand firm'
philosophy which views all
acts aimed at the avoidance
of nuclear destruction as signs
of weakness.
* *       *
That a matter of such enormous significance should be
received on the plain of detergent vs. detergent is unquestionably a horrifying prospect; but, equally unquestionably, it is a fact that we must
accept if we are not to be
caught   in   our   ivory  towers
mulling subtleties while our
competitors are selling us out
of the market!
As any public relations man
will tell you, the first imperative in any selling campaign
is an examination of your
product's image. Let us apply
this approach to the case at
*       *       *
The tragedy of combined
university campaign for nuclear disarmament is that it
stands for the right thing in
the wrong way. While championing the cause of nuclear
sanity, it identifies that cause
with marches, demonstrations
and  mass  pickets,   all  things
historically .alien — and abhorrent — 'to the Canadian
A demonstration marked by
placard-waving students is the
last thing in the world with
which the average Canadian
is able to identify. He associates this with Fascists, alternated with demonstration
marches by placard-waving
If the exponents of nuclear
arms succeed, as a result of
CUCND's efforts, in shackling
the cause of nuclear disarmament with the image of 'for
bearded radicals only,' then
the cause is lost. There could
be no more conclusive proof
of the death blow that the
CUCND zealots threaten to
inflict upon the prospects of
Canada's rejection of nuclear
weapons than the scrupulous
care with which such infinitely wiser exponents of nuclear
disarmament as Howard Green
and Lester Pearson have
avoided any association with
CUCND and its equally
zealous friends.
*   *   *
The housewife who insists
upon offering unsolicited testimonials to the merits of her
favorite brand of home permanent — thus dissuading others
from its use, is both sincere
and well-meaning — but she
hurts the cause she aspires to
help. So too does CUCND hurt
the cause of a non-nuclear
Canada by despoiling its image
and forcing upon it one unpalatable to the overwhelming majority of Canadians.
The tragedy of CUCND is
that is has loved wisely but
not well. The tragedy for Canada is that the misguided efforts of this group may result
in convincing the Canadian
people that the rejection of
nuclear weapons is a cause
which can be supported only
by the radical and the unwashed.
'Varsity* raps McMaster Council
CUCND  refused  recognition
The Varsity
University of Toronto
This "Varsity" editorial was
inspired by the refusal of the
McMaster studeni council lo
recognize CUCND as a chartered campus club.—Ed.
McMaster Student Council
committed the heinous sin of
refusing to grant official recognition to a serious group
of students on their campus.
*   *   *
As a point of academic interest the group in question
was the Combined Universities Campaign for Nuclear
Disarmament. Tha only relevance of the identity of
CUCND is that the McMaster
student government, in all its
wisdom, disagreed with the
aims of the organization and
used this disagreement as the
sole reason for  their  refusal.
This   appears   to    us  as a
serious   infringement   on the
rights of students.
*       *       *
It seems to us that the McMaster Council was guided in
their decision by motives
other than those aired at the
meeting. Otherwise it becomes very difficult to explain
their cowardly action of carrying on the bulk of their
meeting behind closed doors,
when surely the decision
created   a  precedent   of   tre
mendous   importance   to   all
The McMaster Student
Council unanimously decided
that the constitution ' of
CUCND was letter perfect but
stated that recognition depended upon the approval by
council of its aims. We submit that the recognition should
be automatic as soon as the
council has been satisfied that
the group is properly constituted, real, and dedicated to
any end other than nonsense.
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—J'hoto  by  Ted Ross
NUCLEAR DISARMAMENT parade marshall Peter Light
Arts 1; keeps peace marchers in line during the Armistice
Day march downtown Saturday while giving high school
student Fran Malcolm- a fifton his cycle.
Van c oil yir it es    jo i n
bomb-banners   march
"At every intersection as UBC
students marched Saturday
through Vancouver protesting
nuclear arms, citizens swelled
their ranks. -
One hundred' ai".t' sixty-nine
began the march at 11 a.m. at
the university gates.
Two hundred and ninety-one
walked behind the sign "We
Remerrfber" at Tenth and Almai
Three hundred and forty were
in line at Granville and Broadway.
Four hundred and twenty-five
people left city hall and headed
for the Cambie bridge.
Seven hundred people slowly
began to file into Victory Square
at 2:15 p.m. with wreath-bearer
Linda Sturenberg, Education 2,
and Steve Rankin, Arts 3, at it-
head." Silent, the group filled
one lane of Hastings Street for
well over three blocks.
Rankin, president of the UBC
Nuclear Disarmament club, said
the wreath was being placed ort
the cenotaph on behalf of those
who feel that, "... to have peace
you must prepare for peace, so
that those who gave their lives
will not have died in vain."
Earlier, on the ste^s of city
Hall, he had told marchers they
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were not desecrating the memories of war dead.
The case, he said, was one of
the opposite sense.
"By our attendance we, the
people who would specifically
be called upon to fight another
war, are calling for an end of
the arms race which will eventually lead us to the end of
mankind as we know it now.
"There is not one of us who
would not be willing to fight
for and die for our principles
and the protection of our country. But the realization of the
fact that a war today will mean
the end of all countries—friend
and foe, neutral and non-combatant — deems tho denouncing
of war as a method of settling
disputes as ; being no longer
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When the United States of
America can overkill the Soviet
Union five times, and the Soviet
Union can overkill North America two to three times, what
good is it for Canada to "accept
one or  two Bomarc  bases?
Dr. Hugh Keenleyside, chairman of B.C. Hydro, former
chairman of the Canadian Committee on Radiation Hazards,
iormer Canadian under-secre-
tary of state and one-time
iirector-general of the United
Nation's technical assistance
agency, Friday noon outlined
the stakes Canada would be
gambling with if she accepted
uiclear arms.
"It would be the beginning
of the end of Canada's influence
is a country devoted to peace.
We won't be able to argue
against more countries getting
arms than already have them,"
Dr. Keenleyside.said.
"If we are opposed to the
Soviets giving such weapons to
Poland and Czechoslovakia, . . .
how can .we argue that we
should have them?
"The Rand Corporation, which
devotes all its efforts to U.S.
scientific accomplishments, has
just announced that 750 American bombs -could now wipe out
all life on. earth," Keenleyside,
former member of the Canada-
U.S. Joint Defence Board, stated.
: Keenleyside lamented the
kind of a world philosophy that
could see ". . . machine gun
nests around big cities so
people escaping from them can
be shot down."
This, he said, was quietly happening outside certain metropolitan U.S. areas.
He warned that if-; Canada
accepted nuclear weapons, "defensive, or otherwise," ten to
fifteen other nations would, not
see any difference between
retaliatory nuclear weapons and
any other kind.
"What we have to make sure
is that when the Russians decide to negotiate it's not the
John Birch society or the Air
Force Officers' Association that
speaks for the West."
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Council splits on
Grad referendum
Undergraduate society presidents are divided over the Graduate Student's Fee Reduction
referendum to be put to students
Pharmacy president Joe Hu-
dak said Monday he feels the
grads should be allowed a reduction in their "fees only if
they get a corresponding cut in
their AMS grant.   .,
"Why should . the grad students enjoy all the,privileges of
other AMS members and not
pay the same?", Hudak asked.
If the referendum? is passed it
will result in a $3,672 reduction
in Alma Mater Society revenues,
caused by exemption of 186
grad students froni their second-
year $16 AMS fee, and 29 students from a $24 AMS fee.
Science Undergraduate Society president Bill Munro said
he feels graduate students do
not enjoy the same benefits as
undergraduates because they
must study more and now spend
what extra time they have at
the Graduate Student Centre.
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t*Hf ■ -
Sf* -
Grasshopper goalkeeper, as he deflects shot from
Varsity forward (dark uniform) during Vancouver
grasshockey league game at Memorial Park Saturday. Hoppers handed Varsity their first defeat
of the year, 3-2. UBC goals came from Joel Wolsak
and  Peter  Buckland.  Hoppers scored their winning goal in the dying minutes of the game.
East is East and" West is West and never the .twain shall
meet ... at least maybe. In any case, the twain's still off the
■This is the only way to
describe the uncertainty surrounding the East-West football
final. The solution depends completely on the Eastern representatives.
If McGill wins the Eastern
championship they may come
west. If Queens wins the championship they won't come west.
Nobody will come unless UBC
or the eastern officials can find
a benefactor who will pay $5,000
to. transport the team.
UBC athletic director Bus
Phillips said, "We only want
McGill if they win. There's no
use in playing a second-place
Whether McGill is , a second-
place team or not depends on
the outcome of the playoff this
Saturday between McGill and
The Birds will definitely not
are, at best, slim. The Canadian
Paraplegic Association is willing
to put up the profit from previous east-west games to keep the
playoff alive. However, to
make ends meet the game officials will need another sponsor
who can donate an additional
Queens is opposed to accepting an outside help. "They
figure they're big enough to
look after it themselves. We
know we're not," said UBC
coach Frank Gnup modestly.
"I've got to know for sure one
way or another," Gnup growled.
"The team can't practice for
Phillips has set Wednesday as
the deadline for a definite decision. "Right now I'm not sure
where   we   stand.   We're   nego-
Soccer heads
for California
UBC Thunderbirds7 soccer
team pack their bags and
head for California this weekend to play two exhibition
They play Stanford and San
Francisco State in hope of
repeating last year's double
In first division play last
weekend, the" Birds fought to
a 1-1 tie with Royal Oaks. As
a result they picked up one
point and now are tied for
second place with South Hill.
In third division play on
the weekehd the Braves won
their first game, defeating
Alpine 4-2.
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"West has gone East for the last
two years and MeGill feels its
their, turn to travel," said Phillips.
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This also happened in sports:
*   *   *
- IN RUGGER, the UBC Birds'
fifteen trounced Ex-Britannia
19-3 in a first division game,
while their rugby cousins, the
Braves, were beaten 8-5 by the
Kats. Bill Vance scored all the
Braves' points in the first half
before being thrown out of the
game   for fighting  and   talking
back to the referee.
In second division play, Physical Ed. walked over Kats II
16-0, while in the B division
Frosh fought a hard battle,
coming out on the winning end
of a  6-3   score   over the  Wan-
derers. *   *   *
v/omen's volleyball team is repeating its winning streak
again this year. The 'A' Volleyball team won its first league
game Thursday, defeating the
Vancouver teachers' team in two
straight games. Scores were
15-10 and   15-13.
*   *   *
IN  CURLCNG,  Diane  Mac-
Naughton  led   her  rink  on  to
victory for the second time this
year, defeating the Donna Geddes rink 8-2.
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Train trip travellers
may require
KINGSTON,  Ont.   (CUP)—Queen's   University   students
using special trains for football weekends may be required to
post bond against possible damages.
The Executive of the Queen's i— rr~r ™ :—:—
1 damage  cited   was  the  ripping
Alma    Mater     Society    recom-|
mended to the Athletic Board of j
Control that it collect $2 from
each   student  buying  a   special
ticket   on   the   excursion   train.
The money would be refunded
at the end of the crip, provided
that no damage had -been done
to, the interior of.the train.
The executive also instructed
the chief of policq to rigidly
enforce the bylaw against drinking in the Queen's football
In the past the AMS has been
forced to foot bills of up to $600
from the CNR for damage to
coaches. Queen's students will
pay $10 for the return trip and
the $2 will be refunded if there
is no damage which cannot be
pinned on individual culprits.
In an open letter to students,
printed in the Queen's Journal,
the AMS executive declared,
"Some students on the campus
seem to believe that their status
gives them the right to break
the laws of the land. The executive wishes to emphasize that
Queen's students have a duty to
be good citizens.
"We are prepared to defend
• the rights of university students, but these rights do not
include vandalism, destruction
and blatant rudeness."
Earlier last month, an investigation was held by the student
council of the University of
Western Ontario into actions of
istudents attending a game in
Students testified that they
had seen little or no willful
damage being committed on the
train trip to Montreal. The only
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of curtains from the washroom
entrances, they said.
Paul Smith, manager of the
Mustang Band, reported to the
committee that CNR spokesman
Dune Waller had told him that
to the best of his knowledge no
claim would be filed by the railway.
Some of the witnesses noticed
no damage at the Queens Hotel
in Montreal. Others commented
on several incidents of "malicious damage." Witnesses reported "exit signs pulled from
ihe wall, a broken elevator indicator, a receiver ripped off a
phone, fuses taken out of the
fuse box, and broken glass in
the lobby."
Council president Mike Hamilton said the manager of the
Queens Hotel had revealed that
he would be sending a bill for
damages to the extent of $300
to the Dean of Men. No claim
had been received as yet, he
JV's, Braves lose
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and Wednesday.
. . . close second
snares fourth
Even though Geoff Eales
grabbed second place out of a
last-minute, home-stretch duel,
the UBC cross-country team only
placed fourth in the 14th annual northwest cross-country
championship at UBC stadium
Spectators saw one of the
closest finishes on record as
UBC's Geoff Eales crossed the
line inches ahead of University
of Washington's Larry Sese
ferovitch to take second place.
Ray Hampton had broken the
tape four seconds earlier to win
the 4Vi>-mile race  in 21:31.
Vancouver Olympic Club took
first place with 22 points, U. oi
W. was second with 27, Wash.
State third with 50 and UBC
fourth with 60 points in the reverse   point scoring system.
The Jayvees basketball
squad had their first outing
Friday and were trounced
58-36 by a strong St. Regis
The JV's were weak at the
start but came on stronger as
the game progressed. The first
half was marked by poor ball-
handling but in the second
half UBC improved. High
scorers for the JV's were Brian Adams with eight points
and Gordon McKay with seven. St. Regis, a Senior B team,
and the JV's will play again
at a later date.
*       *       *
UBC Braves caught fire in
the last quarter but bowed
62-59 to the Kerrisdale Merchants.
Behind 22-9 at the end of
the first quarter, the freshman Braves  started to   close
the gap. By half time they
were behind 38-29. In the
third quarter play was even
with the Merchants outscor-
ing the Birds 12-11 to take a
50-40 lead. In the final quarter the Birds outhustled the
Merchants 19-12 but time ran
out with Birds three points
down. Birds are now in second place behind the Merchants.
High scorers were Mike
Harcourt with 16 points and
Ron Parker with 14 points
for the winners and Carl An-
dprsnn with 18 points for
In an exhibition game Friday night the Braves were led
by Carl Anderson.
*       *       *
Birds' next game is in the
Totem tournament, December
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Tuesday,  November  14,  1961
India foreign policy lecture
Dr.   Harnetty  will  speak   on
"India's    Foreign    Policy"    <on
/Thftirsday   in  Bu.   100  at  noon.
All welcome.
.:-'■'. '*.'**•''■        "-
5,,-,.v:JD"r.   E nd ico 11   speaks  .on
"Causes of War" Conference at
Montreal.    Noon  today   in  Bu.
* *   *
Panel discussion on Poland in
preparation for 1962 Summer
Seminar. Bu.  104 noon.
* * •*
Wed. noon Hour Concert in
Bu. 1043 will be given by pianist
Irene Rosenburg.
* *   *
Dance.   Goiraoa,Heads Gym
9-12, Saturday, si&V.-18, *m Victoria. Come if you can.
* *   *
Noon today Bu 106, Dr. Cyril
Belshaw will speak on "The
Canadian Peace Corps."
Wed. noon, Auditorium, Pep
Rally, Al Sawby MC. Boy with
girl free, otherwise 10c.
* *   *
Film Show. "The Loons Neck
lace" and "The Longhouse
People" noon today in Bu. 202.
Everyone welcome, admission
free. '"■■:•:
Bible study noon todav in Bu.
220. Everyone  welcome.
* *   *    ■ '
W. J. Burnett, chairman of
Vancouver School Board, will
sneak on "Education and the
Chant Commission", Bu. 220,
Wed. noon.
* *   *
Prof. L. Wong, Wed. noon,
speaks on "Malaya Today."
•k    -k    Vr
Dr. Will to speak on "Latin
America from American Economic Viewpoint", noon today in
Bu.  102.
Film, "Assignment Children"
with-Danny Kay*, non~rhember$
25q: Wed; noon7in Wes, IWi..   ;
'.';•'•":.     •'-    *   ;'1T.".*..   ■■' :   .   -    •   '   '/
Prof. Barnett Savery speaks
on "Recent Ethical Doctrines",
Bu. 202 Wed. noon.
"Mind and the Maker, J. Zilber, ., A.    M.    Friedson,   F.    S. j
Newby,  on  a panel for discussion Of ""Arthur" Millar", Bu. 106
noon today. Everyone, welcome.
* * ■ *
General meeting noon today
in Bu. 214. Bring $2.00 fees.
* *   *
Meeting of full comm. noon
Wed. in Bu. 223. All attend.
* .* ' *
Meeting Wed. at 7:30 in the
Card Room. New members welcome. ......■■
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Meeting Thurs. Films to be.
shown- Bu. 217 at noon.
'"."' *   * ;*"   " ." -■'
Emergency General meeting
to discuss Nov. 28 function, Wed.
noon in Bu. 205.
Founder lo speak
Canadian, Peace Research Institute founder Dr. Norman Z.
Alcock will speak Wednesday
noon in Brock Hall.
He will explain the aims and
needs of the CPRI and answer
In a weekend speech in Vancouver Dr. Alcock said he hoped
to establish two permanent
sites for the institute at Canadian universities. Later he said
UBC would be considered as
one of the sites. "Scholastic
atmosphere is important," he
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