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 Issued  Weekly  by  the  Publications  Board of the University of British Columbia
Volume II.
Number 7
Farmers Should Not
Enter Parliament
The Agricultural Discussion Club held
its regular meeting on Wednesday last,
when the subject, "Resolved that the
United Farmers should enter Parliament as a party," was debated. The subject was a live one, and aroused considerable interest around the University.
Mr. W. Riley and Mr. H. MacCallum
upheld the affirmative, while Mr. G. E.
W. Clarke and Mr. J. Barry supported
the negative side of the argument.
Profs. Larsen, King and Moe kindly
acted as judges. The decision was in
favor of the negative.
In opening the debate, the leader of
the affirmative briefly reviewed the present unsatisfactory state of affairs. "The
Farmers could not do worse than the
old parties have done," he said. Continuing, he declared that, as agriculture
is Canada's premier industry and is the
backbone of the nation, the farmers
should enter politics if the Government
is to be representative. There are, he
pointed out, two ways of doing this:
First, by entering the ranks of the old
parties; secondly, by forming a party of
their own. The first way, however, was,
he maintained, impossible and contrary
to the ideals of the new party, for the
old parties had sadly mismanaged
affairs, and, moreover, represented the
moneyed interests, not the people.
Mr. Clarke, leader of the negative, in
his rebuttal, pointed Out that the farmers
were not a controlling factor in the
affairs of the nation, and that the agricultural output of Canada did not nearly
supply the demand. "Why should a new
party, as yet untried and with a slight
foundation, take over the government at
this critical juncture?" he argued. Furthermore, he stated, the farmer is a
stay-at-home, and is little acquainted
with the world at large, and this man,
sent out, will see no further than his
own community.
Mr. J. Barry pointed out that the city
people would not be satisfied with a
farmer party, and that there are but few
outstanding men among them to form
a Government. Furthermore, if the
farmers entered Parliament as a party,
the Government would not be a representative one. They should form a
coalition, he added.
The second speaker on behalf of the
affirmative argued that, if the farmers
got   into   power,   the   taxation    system
Over The Top
in Victory Loan
As no definite objective was assigned
to the University at the beginning of the
campaign, the student committee set for
itself the goal of $50,000. "You'll never
do it," was heard on all sides. We
thought so, too. The returns of the first
week looked ominous, as only about
$5,000 was raised. The second showed
little improvement. About four days
before the end of the drive we received
the information that our quota had been
fixed officially at $50,000. The effect
was marvellous! From then on subscriptions came rolling in, and by the
final night of the drive U. B. C. had
raised $76,000, well exceeding its quota,
and thus winning the Prince of Wales'
flag. Special credit is due Miss Pitten-
drich, who raised over $20,000. Dr.
Hutchinson was head of the Faculty
committee, while the student committee
consisted of the following: Mr. A. Peebles, Miss Abernethy, Miss Kilpatrick,
Mr. Kingham and Mr. Leckie.
In future the "Ubyssey" will be
distributed in the Arts and Science buildings between 12, noon,
and 1 o'clock, on Thursday.
Copies in the Arts building will
be distributed as follows: First
Year Arts, first floor; Second,
Third and Fourth Year Arts Men,
and Agriculture, second floor;
Second, Third and Fourth Year
Arts Women, and Graduates, third
floor. No copies can be obtained
before  noon.
would be changed, and the wild lands,
at present held by speculators, would be
turned over to honest tillers of the soil;
free trade would be established, and the
whole country would soon see an era of
undreamed of prosperity.
Mr. Hare, of the S. C. R. staff, gave a
short address on "The Shorthorn Herds
in Great Britain." He pointed out the
difference between the English and
Scotch breeds, the former valuable for
milk production, the latter for beef raising.
'Varsity Teams
Have Busy Week
Last week was a busy one for the
basketball teams of the University. In
all five games were played, U. B. C. winning two  and  losing three.
The girls were the only team to turn
a victory. On Wednesday they met the
Normal girls, and defeated them by a
25-13 score. Miss Stuart and Miss Weld
were the leading scorers. U. B. C. was
represented by the following: M. Kilpatrick, M. Gordon, G. Weld, K. Stuart
and B.  Pearce.
On Friday afternoon the girls opposed
the King Edward High School, and
easily disposed of them by a score of
18-5. The count at half time was 14-1.
Miss Stuart secured eight points, Miss
Eveleigh six, and Miss Weld four. The
team: Guards, M. Kilpatrick and M.
Gordon; centre, G. Weld; forwards, K.
Stuart and E. Eveleigh.
On Saturday night the University first
and second squads met defeat at the
hands of the two ex-Normal teams. The
'Varsity were playing out of their class
in both games. The U. B. C. Seniors
went along at a fast clip until half time,
finishing the first period on the long
end of a 21-20 score. They faded, however, in the last half, the final score be,
ing 41-27. U. B. C. lined up as follows:
Guards, A. Lord and G. Gross; centre,
S. Anderson; forwards, G. Dixon and R.
Anderson. ,
With the second team things were
reversed. 'Varsity made a very poor
showing in the first half, the score being 18-5, but held their opponents even
after the rest, the final score being 34-
21. The team: Guards, E. Caspell and
D. Taylor; centre, K. Carlisle; forwards,
G.  Callahan and L.  Fisher.
The University Intermediates gave
the Normal boys a hard game on Wednesday afternoon, losing 28-19. All
these matches were exhibition affairs.
The Intermediates lined up as follows:
Guards, L. McLennan and R. Hunter;
centre, R. Anderson; forwards, H. McLean and H. Arkley.
'Varsity has entered the Senior "A"
division of the Vancouver Basketball
League, and played their first match
against the Rowing Club last night.
This step was taken following the decision of "Buck" Buchanan to turn out
with U. B. C. "Buck" played with the
ex-Normals on Saturday, and was a big
factor in the University defeat. THE    TJB.YSSEY
November 20, "1919
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The girls' hockey team carried off the
honors in their second game this season when they defeated the South Vancouver Teachers by a score of 3-0.
The ground was typical of South Vancouver; but this did not dampen the
'Varsity spirits in the least, for they kept
the ball in the Teachers' half of the mud
almost continually. At no period during the game did the opposing team
threaten the 'Varsity goal. Although
the 'Varsity had the lighter team, they
showed more speed and displayed more
offensive tactics than their heavier
The game was mainly carried on by
the forwards, ably supported by the
backs. Two of the goals were scored
by Miss S. Thorsteinson, the other by
Miss H. Draper. The all-round star of
the squad was Miss B. Gurlick, while
Miss M. Copping and Miss R. Gross
displayed great efficiency in tackling the
Teachers'  husky  forwards.
Although the weather played havoc
with the number of rooters, nevertheless the few yells given completely
dumfounded the natives, and at the
same time greatly encouraged our own
The line-up: Goal, V. Herman; fullbacks, M. Copping (captain), M. Wilcox; halfbacks, R. Gross, J. Buckerfield,
B. Garlick; forwards, C. Fitch, S.
Thornsteinson, D. Hopper, H. Draper
and S. Smith.
To celebrate the anniversary of the
Armistice, the second Rugby team of
the 'Varsity defeated King Edward
High  School  18-0.
The teams were fortunate in having a
fine day for the game, and, had there
been proper support on the side lines,
the score would probably have been
larger. The game was featured by one
or two good rushes by the 'Varsity
three-quarters line, although the scrum,
owing to the fact that it was considerably lighter than King Edward, did not
get the ball out often enough. 'Varsity
was stronger in the back division than
King Edward, who seldom got away.
Scott in particular played a .consistent
game for 'Varsity, getting over a couple
of touches and gaining a lot of ground
at different times by his individual efforts. Sollaway, Harvey and Broadfoot
did the rest of the scoring for 'Varsity.
The tackling of both teams was good. In
the first half 'Varsity scored twice, but
towards the end of the game King Edward weakened, allowing us to score
four more touch-downs. Although there
was no converting done by drop-kicks,
there was none done any other way,
this being the weakest part of the game.
The team was: Hatch, Wallace,
Gregg, Johnson, McLane, McPherson,
Rear, Russell, Solloway, Baker, Harvey,
Arkley (captain), Broadfoot Scott, Underbill.
"Gee"   Ternan   refereed.
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VANCOUVER, B. C Constitution of the Alma Mater Society
The University of British Columbia
Published during Session 1919-20 by the Publications Board
Clause 1—The name of the society shall be
the Alma Mater Society of the University of
British  Columbia.
Clause 2—The  composition  of  the  society:
(a) The society shall be composed of
active and  honorary  members.
(b) Active members shall comprise al!
registered students and graduates of the
(c) Honorary members shall comprise all
members of the Faculty and others to whom
honorary  membership   may   be   given.
■Clause 3—The objects of the society shall
(a) To promote, direct and control all student activities within the University as represented in the following associations and
societies  and  their subsidiary  organizations:
1—The   Undergraduate   Societies;
2—The Literary  Department;
3—The Athletic Association;
4—The Students'    Publications   Dept.
(b) 1. The undergraduates' societies shall
comprise the Women's Undergraduate Society, the Arts Men's Undergraduate Society,
the Science Men's Undergraduate Society,
the Agricultural Undergraduate Society, and
subsidiary  class   organizations.
2. The Literary Department shall comprise the Women's Literary Society, the
Men's Literary Society, the Players' Club,
the musical organizations, and such kindred
organizations as the Council shall assign to
this department.
3. The Athletic Association shall comprise the Women's Athletic Association, the
Men's Athletic Association, and all their
subsidiary societies.
4. The Students' Publications Department shall comprise all boards or organizations  undertaking   student   publications.
Clause 4—Meetings  of the  society:
(a) A semi-annual meeting will be held
within the first ten days of the fall term, at
which the treasurer will make a financial
statement and the functions and activities
of the Alma Mater Society and subsidiary
societies   will   be   outlined.
(b) The annual meeting will be held in the
last week of March, at which the president
and treasurer will make a -report, and the
reports of each subsidiary organization will
be presented and passed upon.
(c) Special meetings may be called at any
time by the president, on the request of the
Students' Council, or on the written request
of twenty members of the society.   At these
meetings no business can be transacted except that for which the meeting has been
(d) Only active members may vole at the
meetings of the society. Honorary members
may not vote, but may take part in all discussions.
<e) Thirty-three per cent, of the students
registered for the current session shall constitute a quorum at any meeting of the
Clause  5—The  Executive,
(a)  The name:
The name of the Executive shall be the
Students'  Council.
(o)  Members:
1. The honorary president.
2. A president, who shall be an undergraduate of the  Senior Year of any Faculty.
3. The president of the Women's Undergraduate Society, who shall be an undergraduate of the Senior Year of any Faculty.
4. The president of the Arts Men's Undergraduate Society, who shall be an undergraduate of the Senior Year of the Faculty
of Arts.
5. The president of the Science Men's
Undergraduate Society, who shall be an undergraduate of the Senior Year of the Faculty of Science.
6. The president of the Literary Department, who shall be an undergraduate of the
Junior  Year  of  any  Faculty.
•   7.    The    vice-president     of     the     Literary
Department,   who  shall  be an  undergraduate
of i he Junior or Senior Year of any Faculty.
S.    The president of the Women's Athletic
Association,   who  shall  be  an  undergraduate
of I he Junior or Senior Year of any Faculty.
9.    The   president   of   the    Men's    Athletic
Association,   who  shall  be  an   undergraduate
of the Junior or Senior Year of any Faculty.
11).    The president of the Agricultural Undergraduate Society, who shall be an undergraduate of  the  Senior Year of the  Faculty
of Agriculture.
11.    The   editor-in-chief   of   the    Students'
Publications, who shall be an undergraduate
Of the Junior or Senior Year of any Faculty,
(c)  Officers of the society:
1—Honorary  President;
5—Assistant  Secretary;
7—Assistant Treasurer.
(d)  Duties  of  Officers:
1. The president shall preside at all
meetings of the Students' Council and of the
Alma Mater Society; shall convene all ordinary and special meetings of the Students'
Council; shall be an ex-officio member of all
committees under the Alma Mater Society,
and shall undertake all such other duties as
usually fall to   the  office of  the president.
2. The vice-president shall, in the absence of the president, assume all his
3. The secretary shall take minutes of all
meetings of the Students' Council and of the
Alma Mater Society; shall conduct all correspondence of the Students' Council, and
keep on file copies of all leters written and
received by him relating to the affairs of
the society; shall read the annual report or
the subsidiary organizations at the annual
4. The assistant secretary shall assist
the secretary in the discharge of all his
5. The treasurer shall take charge of the
funds of the society, which shall be divided
into two parts, namely: (1) appropriations
to the Students' Publications; (2) the remainder of the funds of the Alma Mater
Society. The treasurer shall, immediately
on receipt of these funds, have them deposited in chartered banks selected by the
Si udents' Council—a bank for each of the
respective divisions of the funds. He shall
not disburse the funds under his direct control except in payment of bills certified by
the president and treasurer of the society
which contracted the bills, and then only by
cheque,  signed by him and countersigned by
»the president of the Students' Council. He
shall keep careful account of, and be responsible for, all money received and disbursed by him and by the assistant treasurer, and shall file all bills and receipts
under his direct control. All other bills and
receipts, namely, those of the students'
publications, shall be filed by the assistant
treasurer. The treasurer shall render to
the Students' Council a statement of the
finances of the society each month. He
shall submit a financial report at the annual
meeting, and at any other time, upon the
written order of the  Students'   Council.
6. The assistant treasurer shall be the
business manager of the Students' Publications, but shall not sit on the Council. He
shall manage and keep accurate account of
all monies of the Students' Publications received and expended by him, his accounts
being  subject  to  audit  upon  the  request  of the treasurer of the Students* Council. In
his capacity as business manager of the
Students' Publications, he shall make all expenditures by cheque on its account, signed
by him and countersigned by the president
and treasurer of the Students' Council,
(e) The duties of  the  Students'   Council:
1. The Students' Council shall be the only
recognized medium be! ween the Alma Mater
Society  and
<1)  The University   authorities,
(2) The other  organizations,
(3) The general public.
2. The Students' Council shall have control of all affiliated student activities, subject to the approval of the joint committee
on student affairs.
3. The Students' Council shall act as a
court, before which any student may be
called  to account  for  misdemeanor.
4. The Students' Council shall appoint a
returning officer and scrutineers for the
election of honorary president and president
of the Alma Mater Society.
5. The Students' Council shall appoint
two of its members to sit with the president
of the Alma Mater Society on the joint
committee  on  student   affairs.
6. The Students' Council shall meet regularly each week during the  session.
7. Immediately after the close of the
spring term, the Students' Council-elect
shall assume its office at a joint meeting
with   the   retiring   Students'   Council.
8. It shall be the duty of the Students'
Council to promote social intercourse and
academic unity within  the University.
Clause 6— Elections:
(a) Honorary president and president of
the  Alma  Mater  Society.
1. Nominations shall be in the hands of
the secretary seven days before election
day, and shall be posted immediately by him
on the bulletin boards. Each nomination
must be accompanied by the signature of
not less than ten members of the society.
2. No student may sign the list of nomination of more than one candidate for each
3. The  election  shah   be  by  ballot.
4. The election of the honorary president
and the president shall be held on the third
Monday of March; polling booths will be
open from 10 a.m.  to 3 p.m.
5. Only students registered in the University for the current session shall have
the  privilege  of voting at  this   election.
6. After the ballots have been counted,
the returning officer shall place them in a
package, which shall be sealed in the presence of the scrutineers and preserved until
after the annual meeting of the society.
(b) Appointments by the Students' Council:
1. The Editor-in-Chief of the Students'
Publications.—The Students' Council shall
appoint this officer on the day following the
election of the president of the Alma Mater
2. The Assistant Secretary.—The Students' Council, in collaboration with the
editor-in-chief, shall appoint, this officer the
day following the appointment of the editor-
3. The Senior Editor* of the Students'
Publications. — The Students' Council, tn
collaboration with the editor-in-chief, shall
appoint this oificer on the day following the
appointment  of   the   editor-in-chief.
(b) Duties   of  Senior  Editor:
The senior editor shall superintend the
editorial work of the Students' Publications,
and shall be responsible for it to the editor-
(c) Appointments by the Students' Council-elect: Vice-President, Secretary, Assistant Secretary, Treasurer of the Alma Mater
The Students' Council-elect shall appoint
these from its members before the close of
the  spring  term.
(d) When a vacancy has been definitely
established in any of the offices of the society, the election of a successor shall be
held in accordance with the procedure prescribed for in the election of such officers.
(e) Officers of the Undergraduate Societies, Literary Department and the Athletic
1. The election of officers of the undergraduate societies shall be held on the
Thursday following the election of honorarj-
president and president of the Alma Mater
2. The election of the officers of the Literary Department and the athletic associations shall be held on the Monday following
the election of honorary president and president of the  Alma Mater Society.
Clause  7—Finances.
<a) The funds of the society shall consist
of the following:
1. Fees of admission to-the society collected by the registrar of the University under authority of  the   Hoard of Governors.
2. All monies, excepting special membership fees, received by student organizations
under  the  society.
(b) Kstimates of the proposed expenditures of the undergraduate societies, the
Literary Department, the at 111 el ic associations and the Student Publications shall be
in the bands of the treasurer before the end
of  the  third  week  of   the  session.
(c) A budget shall be prepared by the
treasurer from these estimates, and presented in the fourth week of the session to
the Students' Council for consideration and
(d) Any student organizations under the
society may spend money for the purpose
and for the amount prescribed for its use in
the budget, but shall not spend monies
which are not prescribed in the budget, except by special permission of the Students'
Clause  8—
Reports from the secretaries and treasurers of the undergraduate societies, the
Literary Department, Publications Department, Athletic Association, and their subsidiary organizations, shall be in the hands
of the secretary of the society immediately
after the election of their officers.
Clause 9—
No student shall be elected as a representative of the Students' Council for more
than  one  society.
Clause  10—
The Joint Committee on Student Affairs
shall be composed of three representatives
of the Faculty of the University and three
members of the Students' Council. It shall
confirm the activities of the student body
by endorsing from time to time the proposals of the Alma Mater Society. Should
this committee not endorse the proposals of
the Alma Mater Society, it may amend or
annul them. The decision of this committee shall be considered as the combined
judgment  of  the  Faculty and  students.
Clause  11—
This constitution may be amended by a
two-thirds majority of votes at a meeting
of the society, provided two weeks' notice of
the meeting is given on the bulletin boards.
Amendments   to   the    Constitution    proposed
by  Students'  Council,   1919-20
Clause 2—Section   <b):
Active members shall comprise all registered students of the University (graduates
and undergraduates) who have paid Alma
Mater Society fees  for the current session.
Section   (c):
Honorary members shall comprise all
members of the Faculty, graduates of the
University and others to whom honorary
membership   may   be   given.
Clause 3—
(a) 2. The Literary and Scientific Department.
Clause 5—Section   (b):
3. The secretary of the Alma Mater Society, who shall be an undergraduate of the
Junior or  Senior  Year of any  Faculty.
4. The treasurer of the Alma Mater Society, who shall be an undergraduate of the
Junior or  Senior  Year of any Faculty.
7. Pres. Science Undergrad. Junior or
Omit vice-president of Literary and Scientific   Department.
Section   (e):
3. The Students' Council shall act as a
court, in closed session, before which any
student may be called to account for any
misdemeanor, and to answer, on his or her
honor, whether guilty or not guilty of said
misdemeanor. The accused shall be given
an opportunity to state his or her case, and,
if satisfactory evidence cannot be ascertained, the court shall have authority to call
witnesses. This court shall reserve the right
to   impose   the   following   penalties:
(a) Fines,  not  exceeding ten dollars   ($10);
(b) Suspension   from   Alma   Mater   Society
The moral conviction of the truth of the
charge is all that is necessary to find the
accused  guilty of the charge.
Clause  10—
The Joint Committee shall partake of all
the powers designated to the Faculty Committee  and   the   Students'   Council.
N.R—A few automatic changes resulting
from some of these amendments, such as
dates of elections, etc., are not posted, but
cannot be objected to if the amendments
are  passed  by  the Alma  Mater  Society. November 20, 1919
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The Players' Club extends a cordial
invitation to the members of the student
body to attend their annual private
theatricals on the night of Thursday,
November 27th, or Saturday, November
29th, in the auditorium, at 8.15 p.m.
Notices will be posted next week for
the distribution of tickets. Each student
will receive one ticket: either a green
one, which will be for Thursday night,
or a pink one, for Saturday. Absolutely
no admission will be given to any person who cannot present a ticket or an
invitation at the door. These arrangements are final, and no exceptions can
be made on account of the limited accommodation. Invitations may be obtained only through members of the
club, and will not be given to a student
already holding a ticket. That is to say,
any student desiring to come on Friday
with friends who have been invited, if
he can obtain an invitation, will not be
given a student ticket in addition. The
Christmas playlets of previous years
have been of a high order, and the students may expect a real treat on November 27th and 29th.
On Tuesday last Dr. and Mrs. Coy
were the hosts to the University Historical Society in their beautiful residence on Eleventh Avenue. Practically
the full membership of the club was in
attendance, a tribute to the interest
aroused  by  the  previous  discussions.
Papers were read by Mr. Lincoln
Baker and the Rev. F. H. Buck. The
former dealt with the history of the
American negro, tracing the development of the colored problem from the
time of Hawkins and his slave ships,
down to the present riots in the United
States. Mr. Buck discussed the problem
now confronting the governments on
this continent in view of the rapid increase in the numbers of the negro
population. During the reading both
gentlemen were repeatedly challenged
on various statements, and, in defending
their opinions, some interesting arguments took place. After the papers
were finished a general discussion took
place, in which all the members took
The Science Undergraduate Society
met last Thursday to discuss part of
this winter's programme. The annual
skating party was first discussed, D. M.
Morrison, W. O. Scott and 'S. Anderson
being chosen as a committee to make
arrangements. However, it was found
later that the rink could not be obtained
on a suitable date, so this matter will
probably be shelved till after Christmas. The Science dance was also taken
up, and it was decided to book Lester
Court for February 13th. The Science
men accepted the challenge of the Aggies to debate, and will probably meet
them next Wednesday night. The subject chosen was: "Resolved that Canadian railroads should be nationalized,"
Hodgson and Wallace representing the
Science men on the affirmative.
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R. J. SPROTT, B.A., Mgr.
Phone, Sey. 1810
The Women's Swimming Club is in
full swing now, with a membership of
42 girls, which shows a decided increase
on previous records. The use of the
Chalmers' swimming pool has been obtained for the season, ending in April;
and it is open to the girls on Monday
evenings,  from  6.30  to  9.30.
Men's Tweed
$27.50 and $30.00
A dual purpose coat. It looks like a
smart overcoat, but it is a raincoat—
and a very satisfactory one, too, as
the lining is pure rubber, and will
convince you at a glance that it is
capable of keeping a man warm and
dry. One of the most useful coats we
know for this climate. Here is a
range of smart plaid and fancy patterns in browns and greys. Two styles
—Balmacaan, a short-length coat with
raglan shoulders, and a full-length
style,    also    with     raglan    shoulders:
$27.50 and $30.00
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Editor-in-Chief A.   A.   Webster
Senior   Editor Patricia   H.   Smith
I Lillian Cowdell
Associate Editors < H.  L.  Keenleyside
[C. D. Taylor
Chief  Reporter A.   H.   Imlah
Exchange Editor T.  P.  Peardon
Business  Manager J.   N.  Weld
Advertising  Manager L.   Fournier
Assistants f D"  A'   Wallace        D-  Mclntyre
SS1S an S \ W.  McKee J. Berto
Circulation   Manager A.   Crawford
Editor  for   the   Week H.   Keenleyside
An examination of the numerous notice boards in the main hall a few days
ago revealed some interesting facts. In
the first place, there were one hundred
and eight notices distributed over the
four boards and the adjacent walls. Of
these notices, twenty-one were partially
obscured by their neighbors, and the
writing was totally covered on nine different announcements. Again there
were twenty-three sheets posted in different places requesting students to cail
at the Registrar's Office. Of the regular
announcements, seventeen were out of
date, three of them referring to events
over a week old. Finally, the general
appearance of the notice boards was
about as neat and orderly as if those
posting the notices had stood at a distance of ten feet and thrown the sheets,
one after another, at the boards, where
they had stuck just as they happened to
Unfortunately, 'this case which we
have instanced is not at all an unusual
occurrence. Similar scenes may be witnessed at almost any time. Would it be
too much to hope for if we asked that a
few simple rules be adhered to in the
matter of posting notices? Suppose, for
example, one part of one notice board
be reserved for Faculty notices, another
for invitations issued by the Registrar,
a third for 'phone calls? Then, in connection with student activities, have social events announced in one place, athletics in another, Council decrees in a
third (the minutes of the Council meetings, by the way, are as a rule posted in
the same place from week to week,
which is a-start in the right direction).
Special notices and notices of societies
not affiliated with the Alma Mater could
then be marshalled together on the ungainly affair which first protrudes itself
on the gaze of a person entering by the
main doorway. Now a word in general.
Cannot those in charge of the boards
see that the notices are taken down as
their usefulness ends? In the past the
administration offices have been particularly remiss in this duty; but for the
general student body we would suggest
that the secretaries of the different societies should take thought,, as well to
withdraw  the  notices,  as  to  post  them.
While discussing the notice boards,
may we request that the minutes of the
Students' Council be printed in such
form as to make their meaning clear to
the uninitiated? In the last minutes posted, the following illustrates our point:
"Shall be amended to read, with such
exceptions as the Students' Council
shall permit." There was no explanation whatever regarding the subject
which had been discussed. Again, the
amendments to the Constitution were
so drawn up as to comply with the letter
of the requirements; but as far as conveying any intelligent idea of the proposed changes is concerned, they might
just as well have never been written.
This year a certain sentiment of
closer fellowship with the other universities of the continent may be observed
in the attitude of U. B. C. students. So
far our inter-collegiate contests have
been confined to the Pacific Coast, as
the universities across the line are sufficiently close to permit of the easy interchange of teams. From the other colleges of Canada, we have been isolated
almost entirely by the .barrier of distance. This year, however, much greater interest in the strengthening of intercollegiate relations has been shown,
and, on the other hand, an appreciation
of the growth of U. B. C. seems to be
evinced by the desire of the University
of Alberta to initiate an inter-provincial
Another hopeful sign of the spread of
a feeling of fellowship with our sister
colleges is to be found in the decision
to send delegates to the Des Moines
Conference. There our representatives
will take their places with men and
women from all the widely differing
universities of the continent, and assist
in the interchange of ideas which must
In short, the tendency of the University this year seems to be shaping towards a more close connection with
other academic institutions. This is
something which must be developed still
further before U. B. C. can be entirely
free from the reproach, so often cast at
it, as lacking true university spirit. Can
you help?
By the Editor for the Week
The members of the two senior years
are at present racking their souls over
the question, "Why are History essays?"
Will  Mr.  Sage please answer?
The confusion in the distribution of
the "Ubyssey" which occurred last week
will not happen again. The cause is to
be found in the fact that the publishers
were  preparing a  new mailing list.
We hope that last week's issue of the
"Ubyssey" satisfied our critics. "We
aim to please."
It does not add to the pleasure of the
circulation manager to find that certain
students have been unable to wait until
the appointed time to receive their
copies of the "Ubyssey." Those gentlemen   who    opened   the   bundle   in   the November 20, 1919
Council room last Thursday might have
been better  employed.
The correspondence column is rapidly
becoming the easiest part of the "Ubyssey" to edit.
We appreciate very much the delightful see-saw motion of the sidewalks
leading from the Arts building; but
surely some steps might be taken by
the powers that be to improve walking
conditions  a little.
We wish Mr. Wood every success in
the popularity contest at present running in several down-town theatres.^
Is the noon-hour song practice put
permanently on the list of defunct
On Friday, the thirteenth, Mr. Rid-
ington gave another lecture to the
Five 'Varsity players  on  the Vancouver rep. Rugby team.    Good work!
All correspondence must be written
legibly, on one side of the paper only, and
may be signed by a pen-name, but must
be accompanied by nrfme and class of the
Editor "Ubyssey."
Dear Sir:—Permit me to express, through
your columns, the thanks of myself and my
committee for the splendid co-operation of
the students in the recent Victory Loan
drive. It was only through the individual
assistance and enthusiasm shown that the
University was able to make such a splendid record, raising, as it has done, over
I am sure the committee will always remember with keen pleasure the campaign of
1919, and the hearty support afforded by the
student body.
Tours,  etc.,
Editor "Ubyssey." ,
Dear Sir:—As a humble member of the
"student body as a whole," whose sentiments and opinions are so modestly claimed
by many of your correspondents, may I venture, even with the greatest trepidation, to
express my surprise and dismay at the letter of "D. A. W." in your issue of November
13th? Surprise, Mr. Editor, at the spirit
of that letter; dismay at the thought that
such be construed as the feeling of the students of this University.
If, as Mr. Wallace admits, in seconding
the letter of "R. A. P.," news is the standard of editorial policy, he must conclude in ?
Historical Society worthy of a place—a
prominent place—in the college paper. But
no, he would relegate it, not even to the
"comparatively unimportant position" of
the middle ages, but rather to the bottom
of the last page, which, position. Judging
from Mr. Wallace's theory, is of no importance whatsoever. Truly, there is a sad lack
of non-partizan feeling!
Furthermore, does Mr. Wallace realize
that in characterizing (or, should I say,
condemning) the Historical Society as a
"minor organization of bookworms," he is
at the same time incriminating, to a greater
or less extent, all of the discussion clubs
in the University? Is he serious in his contention that, as such, the Economics clubs,
the Agriculture Discussion Club, the Literature societies, as well as the Historical Society, do not command the "interest of all
healthy and full-blooded students"? Because among the most enthusiastic members of these organizations are to be found
the personnel of the editorial staff, is that
sufficient cause to designate them as the
"pet societies  of the editors"?
We can scarce credit such sentiments—
such prejudices—amongst any of our fellow-
undergraduates, and we sincerely hope that
we are justified in our attitude.
world. Serve it to your
family and watch them grow; eat
it yourself and notice the difference from any other bread.
Editor  "Ubyssey."
Dear Sir:—I have read, with feelings
varying from disgust to sorrow, the various
criticisms of the "Ubyssey" voiced in the
correspondence  columns.
Does R. A. F. think it possible for the
editor for the week to express, either in his
editorials   or   in   the   other   articles   he   may
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write, the opinion of over nine hundred
students? Ridiculous! The only thing he
can do is to express his own opinion, minus
his prejudices, on subjects which he has
reason to believe are interesting to the student body.
Also, I would like to ask R. A. F. what
the policy of the "Ubyssey" is if it isn't
News!   News!   News!
Then, with regard to the "penny horrible"
language of the Rugby write-ups, would R.
A. F. like them to be literary productions
of the highest order? What can portray the
spirit of a Rugby game better than spirited
colloquial language?
As for the "Ubyssey" being "merely a
glorified publicity sheet of an exclusive society known as the Sigma Delta Kappa," I
would like to draw the attention of R. A. F.
to the fact that, out of six issues of this
year's "Ubyssey," in only one has the Sigma Delta Kappa had a front column, and in
three it has not even so much as been mentioned in the announcement column. The
privilege of a front column is impartially
accorded to all the different societies
throughout the year. Athletics, in fact, get
a front column almost every week.
R. A. F. seems to imply that this year's
"Ubyssey" is not an improvement on last
year's. He certainly is not expressing the
opinion of the majority of the students.
Tours truly,
Editor "Ubyssey."
Dear Sir:—In the last two issues of the
"Ubyssey" several letters appeared in criticism of its editorial policy — or lack of
editorial policy. The writer hereby extends
his sympathy to that much-criticized body
—the editorial staff. He is aware that they
cannot forever "rave" on such hackneyed
questions as "The Time-table" or "The Removal of the University to Point Grey." He
realizes that repeated editorials on such
"serious" subjects as "What One Should
Get from a University Course" and "The
Need for Leadership" are scornfully criticized by many students as dry and uninteresting. Therefore, the writer deplores
the fact that a certain portion of the student body cannot appreciate an interesting
editorial on a new theme, even though it
be   slightly  sarcastic  and   exaggerated.
Yours sympathetically,
M. E.  S.
Editor "Ubyssey."
Dear Sir:—In view of the numerous societies which are formed in the University,
would the following suggestion be considered as in place: Why not start an "Away-
from-Home" society, to be composed of
those students who are attending U. B. C,
but who are not residents of Vancouver?
This would give the aristocratic Victorians
an opportunity to assemble and expatiate
on the wonders of their distant village;
those from Prince Rupert could come together and rejoice in the lugubrious and
tearful weather that sometimes afflicts even
Vancouver; and, similarly, the expatriated
children of other famous, but distant, cities
would have ample opportunity to mutually
indulge in the fond and childish reminiscences of times that are not now.
Tours dolefully,
Bridgman's Studio
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Remember to sign your letters to the
Correspondence Column if you want
them published. November 20, 1919
The rain was raining all around, with
all its might and main; the sun had tried
to shine, and said it would not try
again; you see, it couldn't, anyway, by
reason of the rain. The land was wet
as wet could be, no single spot was dry,
and still the rain fell gently down from
out the cloudy sky. If one would cross
the campus safe, one certainly must fly.
The Pussy and the Janitor were walking
hand-in-hand; they wept like anything
to see the liquid state of land. "If we
were only at Point Grey," they said, "it
would be grand." As they were walking to and fro, strange things there were
to see; and suddenly the Pussy cried:
"Whatever can this be?" "The sidewalk," said the Janitor, "or so it seems
to me." And all about the,m, everywhere, were swimmers far and near.
"Who are they?" cried the Pussy Cat,
"why do they act so queer?" "They're
Freshies," said the Janitor, and shed a
bitter tear. For some were swimming
gleefully, and some were paddling
round, and all of them did cheerfully
despise the solid ground. And some
there were who could not swim; but
these, of course, were drowned. And
then they heard a dreadful noise of
splutterings and coughs, and in a puddle
they beheld a lot of graceful toffs. "This
pool," erplained the Janitor, "has been
reserved for Profs."
"Oh, stay thee, gentle Janitor, and do
not walk so fast," the Pussy cried;
"don't hurry so, I don't wish to be the
last." The Janitor said nothing, for he
had already passed. And all at once
they came upon a puddle deep and wide;
the Pussy Cat did hesitate, then promptly fell inside. The Janitor stood by and
sympathetically cried. The puddle, as
I've said before, was very wide and
deep, and no one else was there to see,
and no one else to weep. The cruel little waves rocked Pussy gently fast
See what was found on the letter-rack in
the Arts building by the energetic cub reporter of the "Ubyssey." We publish the
following without any comment, only hoping
that we are not hurting the writer's feelings
by so doing.—The Editor.
Deer Jane:
Since you have moved I do not no
where you are liveing now, so wll leave
this letter in the rack in the front hall
of the bilding which they call Art's in
this University and I will put your name
on the outside and soon Mr. Tansley
will see it and I gess he will no where
you are liveing because he nos everything and whenever we want to find out
something we ask him for it and he tells
me for which we are very grateful. I
wood have ritten before but I have so
much to do with studdying and dance-
ing every Friday nite and sum other
nites too. This is ritten on Saturday
afternoon, which there was to be a Rugby game against New Zealand but there
boat did not come in time so there is
no game. Anyhow I dont want to see
any game unless Messers Lord and
Morrison play, who I no by sight and
will soon no personally so  I  can intro-
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Again,  it may  be  the  dance  floor:—or the  atmosphere  that  pervades—or  the
character of the people.
PERHAPS   it   is   all   three—for   the   BARRON   is   different,   and   that  is   why   this
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It has raned here for about 3 wks.
and is still raneing as if Mr. Pluvius had
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had broke, or else he went to sleep like
Mr. Winkle, which I hope he didnt.
I went to the skateing rink last nite
when it opened, and they was a hole
bunch from this University there, and
also Mr. Grimmett who owns the hockey
team in this University, who has asked
me to play hockey for him which I will
do since he needs good players like me
and the first practice is on Monday nite.
I am riteing this in our readeing room
which is all full of other students and
Seniors, which is people who are in
there 4th year in this University and
another Freshman, which is first year
students, is tryeing to see what I am
riteing, so I will have to say goodby
because I dont want other people readeing my letters to you.
I never new I could rite well until
Dr. Sedgewick told us to always be natural when riteing and not to use floury
language, which I do not do and he said
that I rote naturaler than any in this
University. He does not give me good
marks for my compositions though, but
perhaps my language is a little floury.
I wish he could see this letter, but I
gess you would not like it. I will rite
again soon, and hope Mr. Tansley gives
you this.
In view of the discussion recently
started over the policy of the "Ubyssey,"
the following extract from a letter of a
graduate may be of interest:
"I am enjoying the paper very much,
and consider it quite an improvement
over last year. I think if you would devote a little more space to the editorial
column it would be an advantage as well
as a pleasure to the majority of the students, as well as to the outsiders."
Copies of the present Constitution of
the Alma Mater Society, and the amendments to be voted on next Tuesday,
have been printed and placed in the
copies of the "Ubyssey" distributed today, in order that each student may get
an idea of questions under consideration
before the meeting is held. This has
been done for your benefit, so please
keep   these   copies   for  future  reference.
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Would it be rude to remind the Students' Council that, when they decide to
spend the Publications Board money, it
would be a graceful act to let the Publications Board know something about
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The second of the inter-class debates
conducted by the Men's Lit. was held
last Wednesday afternoon in the Physics
lecture-room. The subject under discussion was: "That compulsory mathematics should be eliminated from the
curriculum of First-year Arts." Messrs.
G. V. Scott and T. Fahey, of Arts '23,
upheld the affirmative, and Messrs.
Heaslip and Limpers, of Arts '22, the
The affirmative claimed that, since
this was an age of specialization, no one
should be compelled to take a subject
not relating to his life work. They also
took exception to the idea of compulsion
in any form. If a student needed a subject, he could be trusted to take it voluntarily.
The negative held that mathematics
was essential to a liberal education, as
it broadened the intellect, strengthened
the reasoning power, and developed a
well-ordered imagi/ation: three things
which are essential in any sphere of
The judges were Mr. Wood and Dr.
Sedgewick. Both spoke shortly on the
debate, pointing out merits and faults.
They gave their decision in favor of the
A meeting of the Economics Discussion Club was held on Thursday, Nov.
13th, at Chalmers' Church. "Methods
of Financing the War" was the subject,
under discussion, and interesting papers
were read by Miss Ella Crozier and Mr.
A. E. Boss, the former supporting Victory Bonds and the latter upholding the
method of taxation.
Miss Crozier outlined the many needs
for immediate funds—war gratuities,
soldiers' settlements, and so on, pointing out that taxes could not be collected
quickly  enough to meet  these  demands.
Mr. Boss stated that the war would
be ultimately financed by taxation, even
though Victory Bonds be a temporary
means. Taxation is therefore the simplest and most direct method, and
should include the excess profits tax and
the income tax. Raising money by Victory Bonds increases class differences,
since it is the rich man who buys the
bulk of the bonds, and the poor are thus
eventually taxed to pay dividends on the
bonds held by the  rich.
As usual, open discussion followed the
reading  of the  papers.
Junior Economics Club — Chalmers'
Church, Thursday, 8 p.m. Members
please bring fees.
Senior Economics Club—Wednesday,
November 26th. Address by Thomas
Richardson, ex-M.P.
Sigma Delta Kappa — Thursday, November  25th,   Chalmers'   Church,  8  p.m.
Alma Mater Society—Tuesday, at 12
o'clock, in the Auditorium.
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