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The Ubyssey Nov 19, 1929

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Issued Twice Weekly by ihe Students' Publications Board of The University of British Columbia.
Mckenzie king stresses importance
of university training in public life
fritter if Curia AUrmit ttiinti ii Cuts.. AMrtiriii
"It Is ths sacred obligation of University men and women to carry the
work forward into the greater area of the world." Thla was the burden of the
message thst the Premier of Canada, Rt. Hon. W. L. McKentle King, delivered
to the faculty and students of U.B.C. on Friday, November 15. Chancellor
McKechnie. as chairman, Introduced the speaker,
In the beginning of his speech, the Premier pointed out what It means to
Ceneds to have a University In a part of the Dominion such as this. "Such a
manifestation of growing Intellectual
power snd leadership, in only twelve
years time," he said, "amaies one."
In pointing out the relation of the
University to public life and the opportunities thst come to University
men end women, the Premier drew
e sharp contrast between conditions
et the present time and sixty years
ego, In those days B.C. was not part
of the Dominion. The privilege of
university education, and opportunities were ter trom being what they
are to-day. There was not the chances
Of specialisation —> not the hospitals,
labs., and equipment to make men
masters of their professions. In those
days, with the provinces loosely knit
together with rudimentary means of
communication, the character of the
field, and the nature of the opportunities tor men and women to serve thetr
country were naturally circumscribed,
When ire realise that, we realise how
far from those conditions we are today. More than anything else, the obtaining of s.lf-government, by bringing more opportunities for public ser*
vice, has brought opportunity to the
usrMsuniTv ar ttiitmi
■ "On us rests a responsibility greater tn affairs of government, industry
end commerce than at any previous
time, " stated the Premier. In signing
the Peace Treaty, Canada took her
place among the nations ot the world,
end since then has taken a leading
part in world affairs. When Ramsay
McDonald crossed the ocean, to try
to settle International differences by
amicable means, he was greeted by a
spectacle that was an object lesson to
the rest of the world—the spectacle
of two great nations living amicably
side by side, with unfortified frontiers,
their differences settled by reason
rather than by force. A budget free
from the enormous expense caused by
the fear of invasion by another—that
Is Canada's lesson to the Old World.
Canada is geographically situated in
the centre of an amphitheatre o.
world powers, France, the United
States, Japan, and is associated,
through Great Britain, with the great
nations of the world. "But," stated
the Premier, "her position rests In
understanding, peaceful relatione and
goSdwIll. The foundations of these
qualities can only be laid by men who
know their responsibilities, Here la a
special obligation for the universities." Canada's representatives abroad
at the present time are all Varsity
men, including a graduate of our own
In the relations of tho University
to public life, the Premier stressed
the Importance of truth and the right
attitude. The necessity of truth, in
every aspect of human affairs, is
greatest to-day, he said. This is the
special function of the university,
which, next to the church, is the
home of truth, where we learn its
application to science and public life.
The university stands, too, for giving
the right attitude in dealing with various questions, In these days, when
every part of the world ls linked by
mechanical means, when everything
we do In one part affects others, the
importance of truth and the right attitude cannot be overestimated.
In conclusion the Premier said that
the university Is only at the beginning of Its possibilities. There aro
great thlnga ln store for It In the future. "You are going out Into the
world now," he said "and If you falter,
the Varsity also falls."
In tendering a note of thanks nn
behalf of the faculty and students,
the Chancellor expressed the hope
that tho Premier would honour us
again ou some future occasion.
Song practice will he h#ld today at
12:15 In the Auditorium. This will be
a chance to learn the words for the
Saskatchewan games.
Coming Events
WgDNEgDAY, NOV. 20.—
Basketball Game, Varsity seniors vs. Crusaders, Vsrslty
Qym., g p.m.
Canadian Rugby, Varaity vs.
U. of Saskatehewan, Athletlo Park, 8.80 p.m.
Pep  meeting,  Auditorium,
Theatre Party for Canadian
Rugby Players, Orphsum
Christmas Plays, Auditorium.
Union Proposes Training
For Forensic Talent
"According to your constitution the
Debating Union is to provide training in debating for students of this
University and this training should
not consist of lectures on the art of
public speaking but of actual conflict
of mind to mind," stated Professor
Harvey at a meeting of the Debating
Union held Wednesday afternoon.
Mr. Harvey spoke from experience
in England and in Canada and said
that he would advise the Union ot
this University to hold fortnightly
meetings where about four speakers
would lead the discussion of a lively
topic after which the right of speaking would be open to members of the
audience. This discussion, he said,
should be a most valuable experience
as one should try to get away from
set speeches. A well trained speaker,
he thought, would not make light of
heckling from the audience but would
make lt an opportunity. One fault of
debating societies ls the tendency to
rely on outside speakers whereas
training should come from practicing
of debating with membera of the
Union. Real training comes from rapid
attack and sudden reply. Furthermore,
all faculties should be represented in
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Dancing classes for Freshettes will
he held Tuesdays and Thursdays at
noon ln the Oymnaalum, All Freeh-
ettes, who are Interested, are requested to take notice as the classes begin
That the mere acquisition of knowledge ls not the mair. purpose of a college education, was emphasized by
Dean Brock in the third of his series
of talks on "Professions for which an
Applied Science Course ls Preparatory," given in Ap. 102 at noon Friday.
Referring to a previous lecture, the
Dean quoted Huxley's definition of a
liberal education and reiterated the
importance of such a training. Facts
can be more readily obtained from
the study of an encyclopedia than
from a University education, therefore
information which ls difficult to get
elsewhere should be sought In a college course. Details are relatively unimportant, principles f.re the things
which should be learned, the applications are then easily acquired. In this
connection tlie speaker pointed out
the Importance of laboratory work
und suggested that tho study of a
model mechliir often demonstrates a
principle more clearly than work on
an actual production unit.
String Quartette to Appear
The Musical Society Is presenting
the Vancouver Chamber Mimic String
Quartette to patrons of the Thursday
noon-hour recitals on this coming
Thursday, November 18. Messrs. Harvey, Gramm, Stankevitch, Edmunds
have consented to appear ut this recital. Mr. Don Huslop will be the
vocalist. This concert concludes the
series for this session, and as the
program ts long, Mr. Williams requests that the audience be in their
seats by 12:10.
Xmas Performance
Of Players' Club
Due Thursday
The annual Christmas performances
of the Players' Club open on Thursday night and continue until Saturday, Admission In the case of outsiders its by Invitation only, while each
student will receive a complimentary
ticket. Tickets wtll be available on
Tuesday and Wednesday noon.
The first play to he presented will
be "Atalanta In Wimbledon." In
which a man's life depends upon the
result of a ping-pong game. The following are the cast, Marjorie Dawk,
Dorothy McKelvIe; Dawk, Cameron
Klrby; Gardener, E. H. Tull; Policeman, John Coleman; Bill, Jack McLennan; Jinks, Basil Bahley; The
Secretary, Frank Alpen; Professor
Delavault Is the producer.
The second play on the program
will be "The World Beyond," a tense
drama set in the Moors of Derbyshire
where the characters have not learned
to control their passions. The cast
will be: Jan, E. W. Gilbert; the
Stranger, J. A. Gibson; Winfreet,
Elizabeth Magee; Elsbeth, M. Smythe;
Dr. Walker ls the producer.
A phantasy produced by Mrs. F*.O.C.
Wood, entiled "The Veil Lifts," will
occupy the third place on the program. Even the most romantic will be
stirred by this play. The following
are the players: Silvia, Betty Wilson;
Caroline, Dorothy Mole; a Naval Lieutenant, Dick Lend rum; Miss Cecilia,
Mary Darnborough; Miss Lucetta,
Margaret Sheppard; Mrs. Hammond,
Angela van Vooght; an Old Woman,
Katharine Lee.
The club hopes to send its audiences home in a good humor with a
rollicking farce, "Town Hall Tonight." This play shows the trials and
tribulations of a small stock company
in a in id western village when they
havo to call ou the property man to
play the part of a London Specialist.
The following is the cast: Mary, Swan-
hlld Matheson; Josephine, Francis
Lucas; lmogene, Allco Morrow;
Booth, Reg. Collie; Henry, Waldo
Rogers; The Property Man, Joe Hammett,
Mrs. K. Laurence has worked hard
on this production which should make
a big hit.
Thursday night is to be set aside
for students; there will be a Theatre
Party, and a big turnout ls expected,
bo those desiring to attend are advised to make sure of getting their tickets. Friday night is to be devoted to
Orads., and Saturday to invited guests
and students. These plays are not
open to the public, as is the Spring
production, and thoy are to he presented Thursday, Friday aud Saturday only; admission is free.
The producers and actors have
worked hard, and the hack-stage
group are also ou their toes, so a
first-class production may bo expected. And no matter what an individual's taste may be in the mattei ot
the drama, he is sure to be suited
here, for everything from slap-stick
to tragedy is on the bill.
Seniors Defeat Sophs
In Aggie Debate
"The provincial government would
not be justified in immediately building a railroad into the Peace River
Area" was the successful stand taken
by the Aggie Senior Class-men against
their less experienced Sophomore opponents in a well attended debato
Wednesday noon. W. Henderson and
R. Shaw for the Sophs, attempted to
prove that the agricultural, timber
und mineral resources, would Justify
immediate action by the B. C. Oovernment. but were overruled by the more
forceful reasoning of the two Seniors,
Don Sutherland and Lyall Currle, who
showed that the Kdmonton outlet was
quite sufficient for present needs.
In awarding the decision to the
Seniors, Fred Stone, who with Professor Davies, acted as judge, gave a
critical appreciation of the different
speakers and stated that their material and delivery compared favorably with anv he had witnessed nt
Prilrii CrufJus Mm Vit ti Im i lini TMi Sinn
With a team in prime condition nnd all aet for action the Varaity Senior
Canadian Rugby aggregation will sully forth ou Wednesday to do battio wtth
the invading University of Saskatchewan for championship honors, The two
game series on Wednesday and Saturday at Athletic Park will decide the
Western Intercollegiate Rugby champions, and give the winner possession
of the Hardy Cup.
Saskatchewan Is sending here one of the finest teama the prairie colleges
have ever produced. They have yet
Sport Summary
Baaketball—Varsity Senior A
30| Westminster Y. 21.
English Rugby — Seniors 26;
Ex-KIng  Georges 3.
Intermediate A 8; Ex-Techs 0.
Frosh 3; Rowing Club 0.
Soooer—Varsity  1;   Polios  1.
Canadian   Rugby —U.B.C.  0;
All grass hookey postponed.
C. O. T. C.
A lecture by Lt.-Col. J. R. L. Parsons, D.S.O., of Victoria entitled
"French and German Plans In 1914"
will be given for all members of the
C.O.T.C. ln App. Sc. 100, on Thura-
doy, November 21, at 12.15 p.m.
W.U.S. Discusses Plans
For Union Fund
The topic of raising money for the
Women's Building fund occupied a
great deal of the business of the Women's Undegrad Meeting held at noon,
Monday, in App. Sc.
Miss Colledge announced that the
returns from the bridge held three
weeks ago were surprisingly large,
and that great hopes were held that
High Jinks and the Co-ed Ball would
prove t equally successful. Miss Colledge also announced that a special
drive for funds ls to be carried on
after Christmas among the business
men of Vancouver.
Miss Colledge warned the girls
against the thieving being carried on
in the University. Dancing classes
are being held for Freshettes at the
gym on Tuesdays and Thursdays at
noon. Out-of-town girls spending the
Christmas holidays in town are asked
to leave their names with Miss Marion Grant,
Miss Mahon thanked those who
helped to make the gym opening a
success, and announced that a special
meeting of tbe Vomen's Athletic Society Is to be held on Friday, November 29, to make arrangements for
Ilie  Victoria  Invasion.
Reviving) n*any pleasant memories
of former successful social functions,
the annual Arts Ball attracted 300
couples, who taxed the capacity ot
the Hotel Vancouver Ballroom on
Friday night.
Commencing shortly after nine o'clock the dancing program continued
till one with the refreshments providing acceptable intermissions from
eleven to twelve. The decorations
consisted of remnants of the Military
Ball and Arts pennants.
The musical entertainment was supplied by Harry Preyce and his orchestra and included many popular
selections. All arrangements for the
feetlvity were made by D. Pollock of
the Men's Undergrad Society.
Patrons and patronesses Included
Dean and Mrs. Buchanan, Dean Bollert. Professor and Mrs. Logan.
Tiny Tots Attend College
Washington State College, Pullman. Nov. Ill I IMP) Fifteen students
at the State College of Washington
this fall are still too young to enter
grade school. They are the Ilny tola
between the ages of two nnd five who
comprise the nursery school, n division of the college of home economics,
The nursery school has proven so
popular with parents that it Is impossible to care for all applicants this
fall, according to Mrs. Kva Williams,
home economics expert lu chargo. The
enrollment shows an increase over
last year, which saw the establishment of the school on the college
to taste defeat this season, having
scored conclusive victories against
Manitoba and Alberta, last year's
Opposite Root, Camossi, or Morrow
at quarter will play Campbell, captain of the team, a smart field general,
a classy punter, and an all round fast
defence man. Root turned In a good
game last Monday and will probably
start out In the quarter position, Captain Camossi knows the game from
"a" to "z" and is an ideal generalissimo, but lacks experience at the key
tm mr-iiii
The pick of the Saskatchewan half-
line are Dempster and Bradford. Dempster has gained fame as a hard-kicking punter, and a tricky fast broken-
field runner. Campbell plays a consistent all-round game being a splendid
tackle and a hard line-plunger, Mickey
McAdam and Pete Therrlen are the
fleet-footed end-run men of the team.
Playing opposite them will be Patterson, Shields, Parker, Orauer. Dirom,
and possibly Rhodes. "Must" Patterson has been playing a wonderful
game lately, developing a long pass
and a good punt along with running
and line-plunging ability. Oordon
Shields has been the most outstanding
player of the year. Fred Grauer and
Gavin Dirom have both starred ln
recent contests with spectacular line-
smashing plunges. Parker is just returning to the game after a long session on the bench with a wrenched
knee, and ls rapidly rounding Into
good shape.
While the Saskatchewan back-Held
is very much out-wieghed by the U.
B. C. half-line, their line is heavier
than Varsity's.
Hoeschen, Tomake, and Jack Carpenter have been playing sensational
games ln the prairie line. However,
Varsity's line has been proving its
mettle this year and providing an airtight defense. Moore has been proving
a sensation at flying wing. Smith is
a fine man at centre. Mitchell Winters,
and Peden are snappy Insiders, Winters, also alternating at half. The
middle wing berth will be well filled
oy Jackson, Cimozzi, Coleman, Pearce,
or Jack, Bolton, Farrlngton, Cummings and Duncan are hard-hitting
ends all  primed to go.
Classes are all called off after 2
o'clock Wednesday to enable every
student to attend the game. There
will be a large crowd as the advance
ticket sale reports have been most encouraging, These two games will be
the hardest fought and most exciting ever played on a local grid-Iron.
A full round of entertainment for the
visitors has been arranged. On Wednesday noon the visitors will be entertained at a luncheon In the Cafeteria. Wednesday night they will be
guests at the Basketball game and
Dance. Thursday they will be ban-
quetted by the Terminal City Club
and will attend the Orpheum Theatre
Party. On Friday evening they will he
the guests of Science '33 at its clasa
Scotchmen Attention* free Tickets!
Ticket distribution for the Christmas Plays will be carried on in the
following places:
Arts—Ticket office in the Quad.
Science- Ticket office In the Aud.
Nursing -Ticket office In the Aud.
Agrlc'ture -Ticket office ln the Aud.
at noon on Tuesday, November 10 and
Wednesday, November 20.
Kvery student will be allowed one
free ticket for either Thursday or
Saturday evening, and the ticket muat
he called for personally. Those desir-
ing to attend Saturday are advised to
obtain their ticket as soon aa poaalble,
as 400 tickets will be the maximum
number to be distributed for that
Students only will be admitted with
a student ticket, none being admitted,
unless a ticket is presented. THE    UBYlSlIf
Novkmbrr 11). 1929.
Qllir HbpHIH
(Member of Paolflo InUr-ColUflate PraiaAssoolatlon).
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Unlveralty of British ColuMbla, Weat Point Orey.
Phone, feint Oray 1434
Mall Subscription* rate: }t per year. Advertialng ratea on application
EDITOR-IN-CHIEF—Roderick A. Pllkington
editorial etaff _   M
Senior Editor*--Phyllis Freeman and Jean Woodworth
Aaaoclate Editors: Bessie Robertson, Barbara Aahby, Ronald Orantham
Aaalatant Bdltors: Edgar Brown, N. Mussallem and Doris Barton
Literary Bdltor: Ronald Orantham    ...... ..
Sport Bdltor: Fred Hamaworth Bxohanga Bdltor: Marjorie McKay
Main biniVr^A.
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e, Mollltt Jo'rda
Cathlaen Murray, Nloh M.ua
io-lla Long. Bella MoOauley,
M. Jenklnaon, Art McKen-
Margaret Creelman, Mair   D_\gwi
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M. 8. Freeman, Janet Hughes, J, W. Lee, Mollln Jordan, M. Jenklnaon, Art
sic, t>.roth.a Lundull, V. J. Southey, .lean M< Dluimld,  Krancfs l.ucac  Murgnrct
Clarke, Brlc Huaklna,  M,  V,  McGregor,  I),  Davldaon,  J   Hammett,  I,   Boseuby,
ll, Locke
Buelnei* etaff
riuilnesi Manager: Byron Edwards
John W. Fox Circulation Manager: William Lawaon
Business Aaalatant: Oordon Bennett
Advertialng Manager:
Senior; I'hyllls Freeman Annui'Iiu.: Barbara Anl»l>>
Assistants: Nick Mtn-anllem and Kdgar Hrown
Once again a complaint from an authoritative source has
come In about the "dead" silence In the Library. With some justice the existing state of affairs haa been compared to a Junior
High School. It la time the atudenta realised that the Library
is a place for study and reference, and not for general gossip. A
complaint Is always being made that the University lacks "traditions" and "college spirit/' It is Indeed time that a tradition of
using the Library as a place of serious study was developed. Out
Of this an atmosphere would be built in time, which would be
strong enough to bring all newcomers into line.
At the same time we fully realise that we are only complaining about one example of the serious disorder with which the
University Is inflicted. We have a sneaking feeling that Indeed
this Is a glorified high school, that the much vaunted student
self-government has practically no effect in regulating any serious breach of what ought to be a primary part of university
etiquette. The desire of obtaining learning, culture, or what you
will, is practically nil here, except among a small group of self-
conscious and inane would-be intelligentsia. Evidently talking
Will be continued in the Library regardless of Librarians, studying
qr the honor system.
das* Md Club Notes
Agricultural Club
On Wednesday evening Dr, Blythe
Eagles addressed a well attended
meeting of the Agriculture Club assembled at the home of Mills Winram,
on an important phase ot Agricultural
ChemiBtry, namely Animal Nutrition.
Dr. Eagles explained and demonstrated how essential a knowledge of the
different vitamlnes, proteins i.nd mineral conatituenta were In the successful growth and malntalnance of the
body, and the speaker's wide grasp
and familiarity with his subject was
evident to the professors and students
alike who had assembled to hear him.
La Canadlenne
The last meeting of Le Canadlenne
for this term was held on November
12, nt the home of tlie Honorary
President, M. Delavault, Two poems
were read and commented upon, after
which several mem iters described In
an interesting manner (he way ln
which they had spent the summer.
Conversation, singing, and refreshments concluded a very Interesting
Young Men's Collegiate Suits
Fancy English and French worsteds with distinctive collegiate styling. Artisically designed; pencil, hair line or
cluster stripes, all the modish fall colorings in Bingle or
Double Breasted models. The popular single breasted
coat with Tattersall vest and pleated psnts also double
breasted vest models.    Finest quality art silk linings.
»27M *30*M »S8M
Hannrjr Mdrangs Debaters
(Continued from Page 1)
the group it it is to be the dominating
debating organisation on the campus.
The reason that the Debating Union
hiis not functioned as a training body
fqr the whole University, thought
Professor Harvey, was its exclusive-
ness. therefore he advocated the
open-club system.
A committee appointed to investigate the possibilities of a change in
constitution consists ot Percy Henderson. Jean MacNaughton, and the executive of which Harry Freeman, A.
Buckland. apd K. Logan are members.
The following new members were
elected to membership in the Union:
H. Morrison, W. Shilvock, N. Musal-
lem, and S. Semple. The president announced that plans are nearly complete for the International debates to
be held ln January and February and
thut announcements ot tryouts will
be made shortly.
What People
Are Saying
Prof. Robertson—Cicero was an
awful nice man.
Prof. Soward—Charles 11. may
be said to have been the
father of his people, In more
ways than one.
Prof. Day—I'm only a faculty
Or. Sedeewlck—0, you little
Earl Vanoe—Three lousy cheers
for Science: Cooties! Cooties!  Cooties!
Dr. Walkor—La damn Bell sans
Not long ago there appeared the
following credit terms in the Cafeteria menu of a certain University:
First Year students, other than Medicals—one week; Second Year students, other than Medicals — two
weeks; First Year Medicals—Pay In
advance; Second Year Medicals -
Pay In advance, and deposit $10 to
cover value of tableware,; Third Year
Medicals   not served.
WANTED A Freshman or Sophomore lntev.ttt.nl tn athletic executive
work. Slight experience In typing
would be helpful. Apply It. M. Rums,
Secretary  Men's Athletic Association.
Will the person who left a fountain
pen on locker .OS, Room .19, Science
Building, call at book store and claim
On Theatre Night I saw
Fabian Underhiil
The Fabian Underhiil
Qulntus FablaniiH
The dignified
The proper
The silent
The learned
The stern
The virtuous
Tho long-striding
The mlsogynlstlc
Falling from his lofty pinnacle of
Austerity and propriety
Kissing actually kissing
The lovely Cleopatra
The kisses were loud and long
They were many
At flrBt I could believe neither
My eyes nor my eara
But there ho was
Osculating osculating osculating
0 what a fail was there
My countrymen
1 went home In sorrow
Deep black sorrow
My Idol haa feet of clay
Large feel of clay beneath
That long
That enveloping
Thut omnipresent
Dept. of Erotics
Arts '31
The Arts '31 Tea Dance la being
held nfter the Canadian Rugby game
this Saturday. It Is billed to start at
4.30 and Is to be held at the Peter
Pan Ballroom.
A limited number of tickets will be
sold to tho student body. The members of the claas who have paid their
class fees will receive them free.
Philosophy Club
A meeting of the Philosophy Discussion Ciub will be held at the home
or Miss Ethel McDowell, 2394 West
6th Avenue, on Friday, November 22,
at 8 p.m. Papers will be glveu by two
of the members, MIsb Belle McOauley
and Mr. Andrew Broatch. Members
Will nnd this notice for the meeting
In the letter rack.
Chemistry Society
A closed meeting of the Chemistry
Society will be held on Wednesday,
November 20, at 8 p.m. at the home of
Dr. Archibald, 2046 13th Avenue W.
Mr. Bentley Edwards will give a
paper on "The Chemistry of the
Bright Lights" and Mr. Stuart Itter
on "Leiblg, a Pioneer in Physiologl
cal Chemistry?
Forest Club
Mr. It. M. Brown, Supt. of the For
est Products Lab., gave an Interesting
address before the Forest Club last
Thursday in which he outlined the
policy and organisation of- the work
There will be other speeches before
the club later and everyone Interested Is invited to attend.
"Here, boy," growled the tight-fisted
buyer of a newspaper, "what's the
idea of yelling 'Great Swindle, sixty
"Great Swindle," shouted the newsboy, "Sixty-one victims."
Art Club
The final meeting of the Club will
be held In Room Arts 202 on Wednesday at 3 p.m. Sketching will be continued from the caste which were
loaned by Mr. Scott of the Art School,
Q. M. Dawson Club
The next meeting of the O, M. Dawson Club will be held at Dr. P.
Lamlster's at the Union College ou
Wednesday, November 20, at 8 p.m.
Arts '30
All those who ordered Arts III) Class
pins may obtain them from the Class
Varsity Band
All members of Baud are lo ho out
Wednesday at 1 p.m. itl room Audi
torium 207.
Will all those who have Incurred
bills for Homecoming please turn
thein in to the Junior Member at
Letters Club
The Letters Club will meet on Wednesday, November 20, at the home of
Mrs. Ii. F. Angus 41*50 Marguerite
street. This will be "Original Contributions Night," and only those who
have handed ln contributions are expected to atend.
Mathematics Club
The Mathematics Club will meet on
Thursday evening, November 21, at
8 p.m., at the home of Mr. Albert
Poole, 1570 West 14th Avenue. Mr.
L. Richardson will apeak. A cordial
invitation is extended to all those interested.
Radio Club
A meeting of the Radio Club will be
held Tuesday, November 19, In Apr*.
Sc. 202. J Baker will speak on "A
Super Power Broadcasting Station"—
Everyone Interested is invited.
Social Science Club
The Social Science Club will meet
tomorrow night at the home ot Mr.
Rod Pllkington, 1746 Haro Street. Mr.
Leon Lnduer, MP., will speak on "The
Canadian  Banking System,"
The Society of Thoth will meet in
A, 201 on Tuesday noon sharp. Pinna
for the remainder of the year will he
drawn up   All membera must attend.
Arts '31 ViMictiry CtMtttM
A buslnesa meeting of the Ml Vulo-
dlctory Committee will be held on
Tuesday, November 19, at 3 p.m , In
Arts 108. Everyone on that committee
please attend.
Hastings and Homer Sts.
Drawing Instrument!
Set Square*, T Squares,
Scsiet, Ruleri
Drawing snd Tracing
Fountain Pent
Loose-Leaf Ring Boob
Clarke & Stuart
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Arts & Science
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Editor "Ubyssey"
Dear Sir:
I think you have the cutest little
editorial writer; I Mean, he's Just
sweet. But why don't you go out and
roust up one who can actually say
things—that would be so much better.
1 know, lt must be awfully easy on
the rest of you to have such a gentle
soul around the office, but it'a really
hardly conducive to a live newspaper.
That skit on Co-education, for Instance; I happen to be rather Interested in that problem, and when I
saw the heading, hoped that here
would be something thought-provoking on the subject. I resd the article
through, put It down, took It up again,
and read It through onoe more, No
doubt about It, It was a dear, nice,
gentle little bit of tnlky-taik; but, aa
I remarked above, tt didn't say anything, I had hoped that there would
be some good, rousing: condemnation
of co-education for me to tear to
pieces (I'm Irish). But I'd hate to hit
at that poor fellow—tt would be like
price-fighting a guy who had his hands
down. I Just couldn't do tt.
What I mean: the writer begins
largely by remarking that It ts extremely doubtful whether this University has benefited hy co-education, He
then mentions social functions and,
I think, student government. He deplores the fact that the student body
does not elect officers on their qualifications; that seems serious. May I
ask, what do they elect them on? And
isn't popularity a qualification T And
is co-education the cause of popularity, or the effect, or what? And as to
social functions, which he vaguely
designates as "tea-parties;" dots he
mean there would be less of these
without co-education? Or is he suoh a
student of human nature that he believes that when a crowd of females
get segiegated In one place, and a
crowd of males ln the other, that
there is an immediate decrease ot tee-
parties and "talk-feasts;" in my Sic*
perlence, I have not noticed] an increase of college spirit ih Sh exclusively "hen-party:" quite the other way,
I have often thought.
If the w>lter was, by any cbatw*,
decrying co-education, i would like
gently to call h|s attention to Mr.
Rudyard Kipling's words, to the effect
that university is "a rehearsal for
life." Doe_ he And in lire any such
artificial segregation as he proposes—
or as, 1 think, he propdses—in bis
article ? Or docs he believe that this
segregation would help in preparing
the student tor life?
Quick Watson, the vitriol bottle!
Rditor'i Mote; The explanation of
this letter is contained in the One
phrase that appears In brackets.
Editor, Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
One person's name was unfortunately omitted from the peraonel of
Musical Society's Skit ih your report
of Home-coming. It was regrettable
more particularly because the person in question was the prime mover
in staging the act. And we who took
part in it desire that if there i3 any
praise to be given Dick Lucas should
get It.
Editor "L'byflsey"
May I take sonic of your valuable
space to answer through yonr paper
the letter appearing ln last "Ubyssoy,"
signed Science '34,
All four classes ln Arts put ou a
skit for the Homecoming theatre
night. Science on the other hand, although having five classes all of
which are bigger than the membership number of tho Society of Thoth
(which consists entirely of Artsmen)
did not have enough Initiative to put
on even one skit.
The Science men, shouting their
heads off, giving themselves the airs
as if they were running the show, Invited Artsmen to yell, which, ot
course, they did not do.
Come on* Science you should be
able to do better next year.
ARTS '30
The Bdltor, The Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
May I express my opinion concerning the singing of O Canada on Friday laat. While awaiting the Hon.
Mr. King's arrival, the students sang
many of their songs, and sang them
lustily. When he arrived they were
making a noise, Just about aa loud as
they possibly could. This probably
gave the Premier the Impression that
U.fl.C.'a atudenta were a lively lot.
Then all rose to sins 0 Canada. Having heard such a noise on his arrival
Mr. King might well heve expected a
resounding response. But what did he
hear? About titty feeble voices mechanically chanting. What is the matter
with our students? Du they not know
their country's own anthem? Or do
they luck the apirit of patrotlsm?
Whatever the matter Is. It should be
attended to. If the students cannot
leant their own national anthem tor
themselvea, they should aing it at
their aong practices. This latter, however, is but a poor alternative,
Exchiw Stttdeat Skitcftt. Easter* Systta
"McOlll", Nov. 9, 1929.
Editor "Ubyssey"
Dear Sir:
Receiving a great deal of attention
and consideration from the student
body recently, ts the position ot the
women students here in respect to the
men. Meetings are being held, interviews given, editorials and correspondence appearing in the "Daily' with
conslderabe frequency, and altogether,
quite a breese Is being aroused. It
might be of some Interest to U.B.C.
students to know Just what the
trouble Is, though it Is, be warned,
not quite as simple as I may herein
make tt appear.
When McOlll was first established,
it was as a men's college and It was
not until nearly 1900 that the Royal
Victoria College was opened and attached. Though, from that date, McOlll haa been nominally a co-educational institution, the men and the
women have more or less kept apart,
aud proceeded along their own linos,
co-operating, no doubt, and on the
whole getting along quite well, but,
nevertheless, existing as two separate
entitles within the University. The
situation to-day is thia—or rather it
appears to be this: The men are organized as the Students Society and
elect annually their Students' Council to direct their affairs. All men's
activities are direotly responsible to
this body and it claims full control.
The women on the other hand, are
organised as the McGiil Women's
Society, and elect their own council
or executive, which is in no way responsible to the Students' Council,
and which has control of all women's
One notable result of this arrangement is the existence of a great number of olubs thst are entirely men or
entirely women, clubs that at U.B.C.
would be mixed. And the general re*
suit Is thst the men and the women
are not brought together to any greet
extent, In their activities snd even in
their lectures. Whether thle la to be
accounted good or not so good we
shall leave to others to say.
There are of course, olubs, which
of their nature necessitate the mixing
of the elements, the men and the women; chiefly the Players Club, The
Choral Sooiety. The Red and White
Revue, and the McGiil Dally. And lt Is
Just on this account that a great deal
of the trouble arises. For these, Instead of being Jointly responsible to
the men's and the women's councils,
are responsible only to tlie men. Title
system, lt seems, works ih some cases
to the disadvantage of the women,
and In others Imposes a financial burden on the men.
The casual U.B.C, student would
ask (as I did). "Why not do away
with the two separate councils and
make one." But ihat would not do;
there are complications, one being the
McGiil Union, about which the men
are  very  Jealous;   another the ath
letics, and there are numerous other
financial and technical difficulties.
Women's representation on the Council is proposed as a solution to the
difficulty, but against this is brought
the argument that financial representation could not be secured. Many
prominent students express themselves as being unable to find any
fault with the present system, observing that It has worked very well so
far snd that ths suppossd disadvantages are really not very great. Other,
especially of the gentler sex, ere quits
emphstio In their desirs tor s chsnge,
but sre at the seme time quite felt
and appreciative of the difficulties involved.
And In the meantime ths dissuasion
Another activity of particular Interest to U.B.C. students wss ths annuel
banquet of ths McGiil branch of ths
U.B.C. Alumni Society, held last even*
Ing (Nov. 8) In the Mount Royal
Hotel, the ooesslon being on the
Home-coming Week-end. Bosldos U.B.
C, Alumni there were representatives
of Vlctorts College present, these 1st*
fact, contributing largely to tne
ladies   among   the   thirty-one
Arrangements had been made by s
very capable committee consisting ot
Bill Argue, Aggie '36, elected chairman last year, Miss Muriel Moffat,
Arts '27, Johnnie Allordyce, Arts '1ft,
and Bob Wright, Arts '.8. through
their efforts a splendid fere had been
secured, a snappy program draw UP,
and altogether the re-union made a
great success,
Toasts were proposed by Rod Foote,
to the Alms Mater; Bob Wright to
McGiil, and jerry Newmarch, to the
ladies. In replying to the toast to Mo*
Mural Relations, snd who Is well acquainted with B.C. and U.B.O., pointed out that, "We hear far too much
about the Bast and the West in dens-
Ha, snd not enough about Canada."
He enumerated several bonds ol union
between B.C. and Quebsc end showed
that Vancouver and Montreal, rather
than being rivals, are partners working hand in hand.
A short business meeting was held
at the close of the evening; Mr. FOojte
was eleoted chairman for the following year, snd was empowered to appoint a committee to assist him,
During  the  evening  messages ot
Joodwill and wishes were read from
resident Kllnck, the President of the
Council, aiid a certain noted Bnglish
Professor. A similar inessaga was prepared by us to be sent, and to be received and read, we hoped at the
Theatre Party the following night
Proceedings were brought to a close
by an enthusiastic "Kitsilano ....,"
followed by an equally noisy "M-c-
Editor "Ubyssey"
Dear Sir:
The Arts faculty has been criticised
because It failed to give any yells on
Theatre Night. I submit that this Is
rather to Its credit than otherwise. Is
tt ho deplorable that yelling doe. not
tlgure prominently In the Interests of
Artsmen? Entirely too much stress ts
laid upon yelling by certain vociferous
elements among us. The University
does not exist to develop yellers.
I do not hold that there ahould be
no yelling In the Unlveralty. It ls
quite all right ln its place and when
indulged In by those who enjoy it.
Artsmen should not be snobs and consider yelling beneath their dignity,
but If they have not strong natural inclination toward strident vocal exercise It can hardly be held against
It does seem necessary for some
students to relieve themselves from
time to time by yelling—aa a reaction
to hard study no doubt—but It Is
childish for them to try to force everyone to do the same. The groat merit
of the practice Is held to be that Indulgence ln lt shows "spirit." My experience has been that those who yell
loudest usually have the least intelligence, the leant character, and the
least true "spirit."
Some students have very strange
Ideas about what It ts worth while to
do at a university. Two of the correspondents lu your laat Issue express
tho yell fanatle's views. A Science
man reproaches Arts ror not giving
"ho much as one yell even after repeated requests from the Science
men." He Is quite serious in his opinion, Arts disgraced Itself by not yelling. One wonders If auch a 'Unobliging yell-lacking faculty should be allowed to drag on lis miserable existence. Groping for a circumstance In
Its favor one reflects that Arts can
claim the chief, If not the entire,
credit for the recent Literary Supplement, and then the question arises:
which la It more worth while for a
body of students to do. to produce a
Literary Supplement, or to produce
a big noise?
Editor, Ubyssey,
Dear Sir:
Two letters regarding the so-called "deadness"' of the Arts faculty
were published In your last issue. In
both cases the criticism was based on
the amount of noise, or rather lack
of It, to the credit of Arts on Homecoming Night, in reply it may be said
that the achievements of a faculty or
anything else are not indicated by the
nolso tt contributes and that Art.men
have received sufficient commendation
ln various ways without announcing
themselves to the high heavens.
Without undue disparagement to
the yelling of Sclencemen (for it ls
useful at times) may we ask what
contributions they make to the administration and credit ot this University? Every member of Counoil,
every Rhodes Scholar but one, every
mepiber but one of the Publications
Board, for the past number of years
and practically every member of the
Players' Club, Musical Sosiety and
Debating Union are Artsmen. What
have Science to reply to that?
The implication that women are
largely contributory to this alleged Inertia ts without foundation ln fact
and is unfair to the women of this
University. In their spheres the coeds have played as aettve and important a part as the men.
The Science faculty has made contributions to our Alma Mater—-no one
denies It. But my dear Sclencemen,
please remember that you are not by
any means the most Important group
In this Unlveralty, alao that It ia the
empty vessel which makes the most
Another correspondent a*?*.: "Purely a faculty the alio of Arta can make
as much nolae at leaat aa the few
Agglea did." I suggest that this is
aomewhate puerlee? This person, too,
uaea the "volume of noise" steaMtard
tor judging the worth of a taewlty.
la it very discreditable for a, student
not to subscribe to stab a atettderd?
Yours truly,
November 19,1929.
i   n:_.
Varsity Triumphs 253
In Miller Cup Race
Plowing their way through a field
that was decidedly sloppy, Varsity
Senior Rugby fifteen went on a scoring spree to whitewash the Ex-
Oeorgea 26-3 ln a Miller-Cup feature.
Although the steady downpour of rain
did its best to dampen the ardor of
the team, nevertheless, the team played with spirit throughout and the result was never in doubt.
Varsity opened the scoring when
Phil Barratt secured the ball and
sprinted across the line with little opposition. Bill Locke converted,
Althouch the green snd black
pressed for a few minute* after this,
Varsity kept up their winning pace
aud forced the opposition into their
IB-yard line. Monte Wood carried the
ball between the enemy posts for the
seoond score. Locke had no difficulty
in converting.
Here the Bx-Oeorges took a hand in
the play and Shepherd scored after a
brilliant seventy-yard run. This was
one of the features of the game.
Varsity took command after the
rest, and pressed their advantage
throughout, scoring almost at will.
Bertie Barratt, Bob Oaul and Mercer
scored in quick succession, Kelley converting, McConaohie took a pass from
Ledlngham and scored, bringing the
total to 22-8. Bert Barratt concluded
the scoring when he ran 80 yards for
a try. Jack Tyrwhltt tried the experiment of using Kelley as a breakaway
forward in which position he added a
great deal of aggressive strength to
the side. Others*who were conspicuous wero Oaul, Bstabrook, the two
Barretts, Ledingham and Looke. The
team has really hit its stride now and
It. is easily evident that it will take
a wonderful team to down them.
Varsity "B" Badminton team again
came to the 'fore Saturday evening
November 16, when they defeated the
North Vanoouver players 10*6. However, Sunday, November 17, the Varsity team wss defeated by Chilllwack,
at Chilliwack, 18*11.
The team was:
N. Solly, 8. Fernle, T. Symons, A.
Anderson, I. Ranage, E. Oleed, 0. Ryall, and 8. Tlsdall.
The next "C" match will be played
November 23 when Varsity battles the
B. C. Regiment at the Drill Hall.
In a hectic encounter played in
pouring rain, Varsity Senior Soccer-
men accomplished a fine performance
In holding the heavy Police team to
a 1-1 draw at Ronfrew Park Saturday.
The heavy going was a tremendous
handicap to the light Varsity squad
while the Police used their weight
promiscuously with the result that,
the U.B.C. men were very roughly
treated. Varsity kicked off up the
slope and were soon defending. Roberts and Manning repelled the Invaders. Three free kicks spelled danger
to Varsity while a scorching drive
brought McOregor to his knees to concede a corner. Varsity finally cleared
and Cooke tricked his check to test
the Illuecoat's goalie. HI feeling crept
into the game after Stafford had been
badly fouled. The half in which Varsity were deoldly worsted ended scoreless, Shooting down the slope It was
the Student's turn to attack. Five
minutes after the re-start Police
rushed the ball but fouled McOregor
in doing so, this disallowing the goal.
Just afterwards the Bluecoata again
netted and although Varsity made a
confident appeal for offside the referee awarded a goal. Vnrsity attacked
hotly and Phillips appeared to net
the ball. Greatly to the surprise of all
the referee gave a goal kick despite
strenuous objections. After this disappointment the Collegians pressed
and five minutes from the close Cooke
followed up his own centre to equalise. Before the whistle blew Varsity
narrowly missed scoring again.
The second half was marred by frequent fouls, and with the ref. very
lax, the situation on several occasions was serious. Throughout the
game, however, tho Students kept
their heads and avoided trouble.
Varsity played splendidly and under
adverse conditions. Roberta was the
most outstanding man on the field,
some of his clearances being little
short of miraculous, He was well supported by Manning. Phillips was a
tower of strength and his field generalship was invaluable. H. Wright
turned ln a nice performance. Me*
Luckte made a fine debut at centre
while Cooke played a sparkling game
hie footwork continually confusing
the Police backs.
Varsity: McOregor; Roberts, Manning; Wright (H); Phillips, Stafford;
Wright (B), Partridge, McLuckle,
Wong and Cooke.
Canadian Rugby Team Statistics
U. B. C.
Name Weight
Root   166
Camozil  180
Morrow 186
Dempster   146
McAdam   160
McLeod  160
Bradford   165
Therrlen    170
Patterson 180
Shields    168
Parker  168
Orauer  180
Dirom  197
Rhodes  200
Lukan    170   Moore 	
Hills  105
Cook   125 I Smith    175
Logan    180 1
Tomake  196
Embury  175
Orchard  198
Mitchell  168
Winters   170
Peden  180
Hoeschen    190
Oordon  186
Hegan    180
J. Carpenter  165
Barr  167
Stewart  190
Jackson   200
Camozzi  180
Jack    170
Coleman 170
Pearce   172
P. Carpenter  162
McNab  157
McCusker  160
Bolton    135
Farrlngton    160
Cumming3  160
Duncan 170
Creaking of stiff Joints heralded the
first turn-out of the Men's Gym. Club
on Thursday evening last. Some score
of enthusiasts marched, ran, swayed
and frolicked to the strains of the
Oymnaalum  piano
Regular turn-outs will he held on
Tuesday from 8 to 10 p.m., and on
Thursdays, from 7 to 9 p.m. Until
more apparatus can be provided, calisthenics and group games will form
the bulk of the program to be carried
The following were elected as the
Club executive a. a meeting held
Wednesday, November 18, in Arts 108.
President, Cordon Stead; Secretary-
TreaBurer, James A. Olbson; Curator,
Leo. S. Gansner; Publicity Man,
Arthur Dobson.
The Executive hopes to have a
much larger attendance at the next
turn-out, to be held Tuesday evening.
Small orange purse containing 2
keys and change. Please return to
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Saaetat Caackta§ tn Latin and SttentiSc Oirnuui
Ex-Byng Dance
Thursday Nov. 21
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Varaity will stage the flrst home
basketball games of the year when
the Senior A team engages Crusader,
and the Senior Women take on the
Neons in the U.B.C. Gymnasium at
8 p.m, Wednesday night.
The Senior men need another victory to put them on even terms with
the Adanacs, last year's Dominion
Champions, who have won three
straight games, With convincing triumphs over Ex-Varsity and the Huskies to their credit, the U. B. C. men
are confident of taking the measure
of the Crusaders who lost to the Adanaos last week, but have won two
other gamea.
In the other tilt, Varsity Senior
Women will be pitted against last
year's V. A. C. teum now known as
the Neons.
In consideration of the fact that
the Varaity is on probation until
Christmas In respect to staging home
games in the U.B.C. gymnasium, the
Basketball club Is doubly anxious to
have a large crowd In attendance.
The support given by the students
to these flrat basketball games will
determine for the next two or three
years whether Varsity will stage its
home gamea on the campus or downtown. Tickets will be on sale on Wednesday.
Negotiations are under way regarding a proposed trip down the coast as
far as San Francisco by the Senior
A team. Games will he arranged with
college teams on route, the tour to
be made during the Christmas holidays. Another possibility is a visit
from the winner of the inter-colleglate
league on the Prairies in the spring.
The team tor tomorrow's game will
be: Mayers, McNaughton, MoBwen,
Henderson, Mclntyre, Wlllescroft and
U. of
Wed., Nov. 20 -   - 2.30 P.M.
Sat., Nov. 23  -   - 2.30 P.M.
Fixtures Postponed
In Women's Hockey
Both league games in women'a
grass hockey scheduled for Saturday
were postponed Indefinitely. Probably
they will be played off in Murch at
the end of the league.
The first game last Saturday resulted tn a 4-1 win for Bx-North Van.,
and a 2-1 win for Ex South Van. The
second series came out a 4-1 win for
U.B.C. against Varsity and cancelled
league game between BxBrltannla and
Normal. The last weeks' games were
League fees per team this year are
three dollars and must be paid by
November 80.
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