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VANCOUVER, B.C., MONDAY, JANUARY 29, 1945
No. 41 A
TWO PLANS FOR STUDENT COUNCIL
Students of the University of British Columbia will, in all probability, be called upon to make an im>
portant decision tomorrow. They must choose a new type of government for the Alma Mater Society.
They have a choice of two plans. In order that students may become famiilar with these two plans The
Ubyssey has published this special edition. It contains all the particulars, pros and cons of both plans. On
the front page are the specific details. On the back page are comments from two student leaders. Each
student should make sure he is well-acquainted with all sides of the question before he casts his vote.
* —THE EDITOR.
Advisory Council Plan
STUDENT COUNCIL
PRESIDENT
TREASURER
SECRETARY
LSE
MAO
WAD
WUS
JUNIOR MEMBER
ARTS REPRESENTATIVE
SCIENCE REPRESENTATIVE
AGRICULTURE   REPRESENTATIVE
COMMERCE  REPRESENTATIVE
EDITOR-IN-CHIEF EX-OFFICIO
ADVISORY COUNCIL
I
I
I
FUTURE
Editor-in-
LSE Major
Student
FACULTIES
Chief
8
Council
Rome Ec.
1
Clubs
12
Nursing
Senior
Including
Forestry
Editors
CURMA
Pre-Med
3
Undcrj-rad
Pan-Hell.
Phrateres
Class
1
1
Presidents
IFC
11
1
By GORDON BERTRAM
President of thc Literary and Scientific
Executive
PREAMBLE:
I It is my belief that the problems posed
.i revision of Students' Council resolve into
three areas.
1. Democratic representation of the
student body.
2. Efficiency of operation.
3. Responsible contact with the  student
body during term of office.
I PARTI
Democratic representation of the student body would be more complete with the
addition of faculty representation on council The present position of MUS would be
dropped and one representative each of
Arts, Science, Agriculture and Commerce
would be included on council. This would
increase the number of councillors to 12.
Thus we would have: President, Treas-
arer, Secretary, WUS, LSE, MAD, WAD,
Junior Member, Arts Representative, Science Representative, Agriculture Representee, Commerce Representative and the
Editor-in-Chief. The Honorary President
nd Vice-President are included.
Their functions would include, besides
the administration of all faculty affairs, such
duties as the social calendar, War Aid Council, Booking System, noon-hour co-ordina-
lon of events and such duties as arise from
tae to time and the creation of a unified
interest in the business and aims of the society as a whole.
PART II
Efficiency of operation can be regarded
it being fulfilled with the addition of the
suggested members sitting on council.
rARTm
Responsible contact with the   student (
body during term of office.
Council operates in a vacuum in its re-
litions with the rest of the student body.
The only contact at present is by semi-an-
wal meetings which are generally of a hil
arious variety; they are too infrequent and
too short to transact but a residual of business.
To maintain student govenunent in an
expanding university necessitates a government more closely in contact with the student body.
It is therefore proposed that a Student
Advisory Council be established.
Class 1:
The Advisory Council would be composed of: Student Council 12; Editor-in-
Chief, one; Major LSE, eight; Pan-Hellenic,
one; Inter-Fraternity Council, one; Senior
Editors of the Ubyssey, three; Undergrad
Classes presidents, eleven; Phrateres, one;
Future Faculties, four.
Class 2:
The Advisory Council would meet four
times a year, twice each term: On second
week in October, first week in December,
fourth week in January and the first week
in March.
Class 3:
The Advisory Council would consider
policy of council in regard to:
Finance; question of large expenditures.
Conferences Policy.. Quarterly report of Editor-in-Chief, oral. Administration of Brock
building. Public Relations. Campus discipline. Current campaigns and drives. Use
of Pass System, athletics and special events.
Oral reports of Councillors. Issues of general concern to the student body.
The Advisory Council would initiate
such matters as the body feels necessary.
The Advisory Council would have powers
to approve or censure the actions of Student
Council. Council could not be overruled by
Ihe action of the Advisory Council. The
president of the Student Council would call
and preside over all meetings. Secretary of
the Student Council would report all proceedings. The Advisory Council may be required to meet at the call of Student Council
or upon application of at least 15 members.
Enlarged Council Plan
PRESIDENT
VICE-PRESIDENT (WUS)     '
SECRETARY
TREASURER
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MAD
WAD
Men's
Athletic
Aas'n.
Women's
Athletic
Ass'n.
LSE
Major Club*
Minor Clubs
EUS
Sth Ycar
4th Year
3rd Year
2nd Year
Arfa US       Aggie US
4t:> Year
3rd Yea*
2nd Year
1st Year
4th Year
3rd Year
2nd Year
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CUS
4th Year
3rd Year
2nd Year
I
WUS
Women's
Activities
Formal Report of the Student Representation Committee:
PREAMBLE:
Whereas enrollment at the University
of British Columbia has doubled since the
present structure of the Students' Council
was established and the size of the Council
is now disproportionate to the size of the
student body and
Whereas the administration of the Alma
Ma'ter Society falls heavily on a too small
Council and
Whereas a closer contact between Council and thc student is desired and
Whereas it is felt this contact will be
cichieved by including presidents of the undergraduate societies on Council and
Whereas it is advisable to include representatives from the lower years to express
opinions of the larger student body and ensure more continuity and
Whereas the Men's Undergraduate Society has ceased for some years to be a
working organization.
Therefore Students' Council recommends to the Alma Mater Society that Students' Council be reconstituted as follows:
Honorary President.
Honorary Vice-President.
President.
Treasurer.
Secretary.
L.S.E. Representative.
Women's Athletic Representative.
Men's Athletic Representative,
Women's Undergraduate Society Representative.
Arts Representative.
Science Representative.
Aggie Representative.
Commerce Representative.
Two members at large—one sophomore
and one junior.
By DICK BIBBS
President of Uie Alma Mater Society
The Alma Mater Society is not a political organization. It is a Society duly constituted under the laws of the province to
promote, direct and control all students' activities within the University of British Columbia, toi acquire property and buildings
and to raise money by issue of debentures
if it sees fit. The executive and Board of
Directors of this Society is the Students'
Council, which has the full control of all activities under the Society. The officers of
the Society are the Honorary President, the
Honorary Vice-President, President, Vice-
President, Secretary and Treasurer. These
officers are responsible to Students' Council
for carrying out such policies Student
Council may determine.
Besjdes these officers the representatives of Men's and Women's Athletics, clubs,
publications and the Undergraduate Socie-
MEMBERS-AT-
LARGE
Homecoming
Alumni
Representatives
WAC
IFC
Representatives
Freshman
Orientation
ties sit on Council. Originally Artsmen's
Undergraduate Society, Sciencemen's Undergraduate Society, Agriculture Men's Society were represented by the Men's Undergraduate Society President; Women's Undergraduate Societies by the WUS President.
Men and women had their own athletic
program through their separate undergrad
societies. Faculties and departments grew,
the present Intramural sports program,
largely independent of faculty organization,
was introduced, women shared with men
the executive work of the undergraduate social functions. Finally Arts Undergraduate
Society, Engineers' Undergraduate Society,
Agriculture Undergraduate Society, Commerce Undergraduate Society, comprising
men and women, replaced the old grouping.
We continued to elect the MUS President
annually, though we no longer had Men's
Undergraduate Societies for him to represent. Council maintained a flimsy contact
with the new Undergraduate Societies
through tne Discipline Committee of which
the MUS President remained chairman.
WUS continued to coordinate the distinctive
women's activities—Red Cross work, Hi
Jinx, fashion shows, etc.
Council now represented the special student activities, athletics, clubs, publications,
women's interest; decisions were made affecting the general student b ody but not
sufficiently weighty to warrant a general
AMS meeting, yet the general student body,
including many hundreds of students who
take little part in organized clubs and sports,
had no voice on Council; and Council's decisions affecting these students were difficult
to enforce, diffused as they were through
MUS President to the undergraduate body.
Your Students' douncil realized this
weakness. On November 13,1944, the committee whose report heads this statement
was set up to study our Council's needs.
Committeemen examined the student governments of nineteen Canadian and seven
American universities and colleges before
applying themselves to the problems of
UBC.
The committee recommended the inclusion of the presidents of the EUS, AUS, Ag-
"gies, CUS, on Council. It also recommended
that members-at-large be chosen from the
lower years by general vote. From% these
members-at-large would come chairmen of
Homecoming, the Clean-Up Campaign, War
Aid Council, also a social chairman and representatives to the Alumni and to IFC.
Other duties would be assigned from time to
time. It was reasoned that students who
run for office would carry out these duties
more wholeheartedly than an appointee
from outside Council would. It was rea-
(Continued on Page 2, Col. 4)
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PRO: ENLARGED COUNCIL
By LES RAPHAEL
President of the Men's Undcrgaduate Society
When the committee on representation studied various
forms of student government in the search for one to replace
the present one, the first question asked was "will it work?"
The University is growing at a rapid rate. The jobs of council increase yearly and there has to be executives to do these
jobs. We of the committee thought that if we choose a sys-
tem that would invite inefficiency and slow blundering, so
that the student services would not be perfbrmed, then inev-
itably some other'agency would step in to do the necessary
work. And that would not be the students themselves. We
of the committee regard the preservation of efficiency in
student government as of paramount importance. Ask yourselves as we did, "will it work?" Will it get things done
quickly?" Will it get things done quickly and efficiently?"
The committee's plan was no idle theory. It was designed
to function. The council as established would be large
enough to handle thoroughly all the various duties of an expanding student body. They would be directly responsible.
They would not have to wait and worry about the opinions
of an unrepresentative minority before going ahead with
some important work which requires speed of execution.
The freedom and flexibility of the present form of Student's
Council would be preserved. There is less red tape, more
direct appeal to the final authority, the Student's .Council by
the student himself. Under the present system, and the one
proposed by the committee, executive authority is sure and
firm, not diffuse and timid.   The proposed system would
mean this: -      t
The students after examining the qualifications of each
candidate, choose -a councU which they feel will represent
their views, their policies. This group will have student
confidence, otherwise it would" not be elected at all. When
elected it will have the power to conduct the affairs of the
AMS as it sees fit. It will not be out of touch with the stu-
dentss. All groups are represented on it. Its actions may be
seen from perusal of the council minutes which are posted
each week. They receive fuller, and more critical treatment
in the Ubyssey. If for any reason, the students, or a faction
thereof, decide that they are not being properly treated, or
if some important matter is not receiving the attention due
it, they have, under the code, the right to call a general meeting of all the students at which time the council may be
called to account. Otherwise they have faith in their council
and give it their support and cooperation so that council may
organize and coordinate their affairs efficiently.
On investigation the committee found that the most
glaring fault of the present council set-up was its lack of faculty representation. These large and important groups were
represented only through the weak MUS organization which
is poorly defined and has not been working for years. The
president of Arts, Science, Agriculture and Commerce will
sit on council. They will represent all the years of each
faculty. If their organizations are effective they will be truly
representative. They will each have one full vote. It is
clear that Arts, with one vote, will have, as a group, less
authority than Commerce, judging from the size of each
faculty. To overcome this, the members-at-large system has
been established. These members at large, from tho Junior
and Sophomore years of any faculty, will be elected by the
entire student body. If Arts feels itself inadequately represented, an extra Arts member-at-large will even out the representation merely because the Arts students are numerically superior at the polls. Science, being a solid group, may
do same. Note though, that only on questions of inter-faculty rivalry with this balancing function be called upon. But
we are assured that no faculty is left poorly represented in
uch a crisis, even though the other members of council may
be of any faculties and will, as' they do now, vote with the
general good of the AMS in mind rather than with their particular faculty. Faculty feeling is, and indeed should not be
so strong on council as to prejudice tho members ono way or
tho other. Tho faculty representatives will give a closer contact with the undergraduate bodies, though, and the members-at-large have other, more important functions than this
juggling act, As the university expands and more faculties
are added they, too, will be represented on council. The
members-at-large will, presumably, increase proportionately.
The ssytem is thus made flexibe and capable of edminister-
ing to the needs of larger student bodies. We anticipate a
bigger university with more students. This plan looks ahead
to a school of 5,000 and more students with m ore wants and
needs. This will require more work on the part of Student's
Council and more executives to handle it well. In my experience the enrollment has risen from 2100 to almost 3000 students and the council as now established is too small to
handle the work. Treasurer, President, WUS, LSE, and the
athletic representatives have enough to worry about without
toeing burdened by many committees ahd promotions as at
present. The members-at Jarge could take care of these sundry, but important jobs. They would serve as a board from
which members could be selected by the president to take
care of such work as Homecoming, Cleanup, Freshmen orientation, Fall Ball, Cairn Ceremonies, Public Relations, Insurance Committee, Discipline, and the myriad other functions
necessary to student administration. Do not think that there
wi. oa insufficient work for them to do. Ask any student
councillor, past or present. They'll tell you that the work
has piled up year by year and that more executive administrator? are necessary, people with exact knowledge of the
facts and the ability to act quickly and well without worrying
about cumbersome advisory boards and the like.
Continuity in student government is of increasing importance as the function thereof expands. At UBC, unlike
the universities of the rest of Canada, the students have complete control of their affairs. They have managed to retain
this desirable situation by having Student Councils that know
what they are doing. As the system, financial and administrative, expands more complete knowledge is required by
student officials and more experience in executive work is
necessary.   If with a large enrollment and  fifty  or  sixty
AMS Meeting Tuesday 11:30
thousand dollars of student money you get a council that is
entirely green and inexperienced the result is chaos. We
need experience and not just the experience gained from sitting in an advisory meeting three or four times a year. Before taking one of the top executive positions a member
should sit on council for at least one year.   This plan has
been conceived so as to give training to up and coming men
and women in the junior and sophomore years. Not just one,
as at present, which is a shot in the dark, but three or more
so that continuity is assured. We can be sure of a nucleus
at least on Student Council that can initiate the new mem.
membes into the intricacies of the system and preserve the
form of government as potent and stable.
PRO: Advisory Council Plan
By GORDON BERTRAM
President of the Literary and Scientific Executive
It has been inferred in a recent editorial of the Ubyssey
that democracy does not exist in the sphere of student government. The reference was that the Advisory Council was
impossible and, idealistic.
Even a slight familiarity with the plan for an advisory
council would reveal the elementary and sound basis of student government proposed therein. The advisory council
consists of groups already existing on the campus; no elaborate or involved mechanism has to be set up. These groups
earn their representation by their activity, they are the
groups actually concerned with the many student problems.
All that is necessary, is to call these representatives together
four times a year to consider the broad policies to be pursued
by Student Council. This does not involve lengthy red tape
or the hamstringing of Student Council as has been asserted.
The power of the proposed council is advisory, its influence
lies in the power of approval or disapproval of council policy.
Student Council would hesitate to buck the opinion of the
advisory council. The difficulties of a completely powerful
lower house are thus circumvented.
The advisory plan diffuses the problems faced by council
into a larger and more representative group. At no time at
present do these combined representatives of the active organizations meet to consider the common problem of student
administration.
The claim is advanced that these groups are already
represented on Student Council; this implies perfect and absolute representation and complete homogeniety of student
opinion. We must remember that students are not all turned out of the same stamping machine.
The Advisory Group would consider only general policy which require the review of a larger body; policies which
a small body of representatives can not do justice to. Student Council is primarily a body of specialists, each with
their own specific field. It must handle a thirty thousand
dollar a year business as well as all administrative problems.
It is therefore necessary to seek the opinion of a larger group
to work out the distribution of financial expenditure and the
policy of allotment of funds to the organizations and activities of the Society at the beginning and throughout tho year.
This most responsible task is not being operated at present
under any clearly defined set of rules, but is left to the circumstantial decisions of weekly council meetings.
If delegates are sent to conferences representing the
AMS they should present the opinions of this larger group
as to policies to be advanced, rather than the personal opinions of the delegates.
Public relations and their co-ordination and promotion
should be discussed by the people who are actually in contact with the public—that i.s members of the advisory council.
Campus discipline needs the support and understanding
of the Advisory Council because of the important relation of
student behaviour to public opinion of the university.
The oral report of members of Student Council and the
editor-in-chief to the Advisory Council would not only clarify council policy of the Ubyssey to the organizations on the
campus, but would avoid the misunderstanding so easily engendered by the existing system.
The committee has continually preached the necessity
of maintaining a greater degree of continuity on council.
Every student agrees that the junior years should bo given
some experience with tho problems of student government.
Should this experience be limited to one or two junior
members on the Student Council? The Advisory Council
plan provides a training ground for many student execu
tives.
Not only would the members of the Advisory Council be
familiar with the general issues facing the Society, but also
they would receive extremely valuable experience by par.
ticipating in committees set up to promote different campus
projects. With this plan in operation the AMS president
would appoint a chairman for a specific committee from the
Student Council itself and, after referring to a list of the
Advisory Council, would appoint junior class executives and
experts in various campus activities to sit on the committee,
Under the majority plan this valuable experience would, of
necessity, be limited to the already overworked council
members and to one or two junior members who, if given a
project to handle would have no executive at all to assist
them. These junior members would be truly out of touch
with the*Btudent body.
Do not overlook the fact that there are eleven class executives on the Advisory Council. At present these representatives aro almost totally without a function. The Advisory Council plan would provide every class president with a
participating share in student government. For this reason
interest in student government and devotion to its perpetuation would be stimulated throughout the entire university.
In the meetings with council, all the organizations represent-
ed would feel that they, too, had a share in their own government. Here at last we see a sound basis for a university
spirit which would overcome the present tendency towards
factionalism.
As has been stated already the oral reports of council
members would clear up many controversial issues. Any
members of the Advisory Council is free to question council
members individually and make constructive suggestions.
It has been suggested that the members of this Advisory
Council would know nothing of the-problems to be discussed,
and would care less. However, the supporters of the minority report believe that if the members are sent an outline
of the business to be discussed before the meeting with council, each member could investigate the question and prepare
himself to hear it discussed and to express an intelligent
opinion. Is this an over-idealistic conception of the intelligence of students at the university level?
Perhaps, it would be wise at this point to outline the
basic concept which underlies this plan for an Advisory
Council. We believe that student government sould be based
on democratic principles. Let us consider briefly the historical background of democratic government. Throughout
the course of history, we have seen that democracy commences to disintegrate once the people become apathetic to
this precious privilege. Surely, "efficiency alone" is a slogan more suited to an absolutist theory of government. It
was Lord Acton who wisely said, "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Students must realize that unless they take an interest
in their own government they stand-in grave danger of losing
control of their own affairs, just as nations have become servile to a small group of so-called efficiency experts. But how
can student take an interest in student government unless
they are more familiar with the plans which are being discussed for their own welfare? If the Advisory Council plan
were instituted, each of these members would, as a matter
of course, discuss the general issues with their organizations
and their associates. Interest would become more widespread. Has the majority plan satisfied the "quorum issue"
—will students take more interest in tho semi-annual meeting? Is it not evident that general student interest in their
own government is declining at a terrifying rate? Could this
bo the first indication of a trend which would see student
government die out completely on the campus?
AMS
MEETING
Tuesday
11:30
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Lecture*
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EDITOR-IN-CHIEF •
JOHN TOM SCOTT
Bibbs
(Continued From Page 1)
soned also that the stronger faculties which
might deserve more representatives than the
weaker ones would be able to elect more
members-at-large.   The committee decided
there should be two members-at-large, one
from the Junior, one from the Sophomore
years. Coming from the lower years they
would be able to train for higher office later.
The committee felt the enlarged council
would represent students' interests adequately and yet would remain compact
to act, as Students' Council must act, as the
executive body of the AMS. A large executive i.s not a speedy or efficient one.
A variant of the above plan was proposed and defeated by the committee. This
would have called for an Advisory Council
of 40 with members drawn from Students'
Council, Publications, major LSE, fraternities and the undergraduate societies. It
would have much of the powers of Students'
Council, except that it could do nothing. It
could advise.
Look at the table again at the head of
the page. If we have this Students' Council
all the groups of the Advisory Council, plus
athletics, are represented directly on the
highest executive of the AMS. The Advisory Council I'.erely duplicates, in a rough
way, this ropiesentation. Matters the Advisory Council would bring  to   Students'
Council can be brought more quickly to
council through the council members. When
council wants advice it can go directly to
the MAD, LSE, or other organizations under it. It needs no buffer advisory council
to separate it from the students.
You delegate much power and responsibility to Students' Council. The initiative
of decision and action must be left with it.
Otherwise you have no executive. The machinery of your student government must
be effective. The proposed advisory council
would hamper student government. A weak
unnecessary adjunct to an other wise well-
operated Students' Council could not but
Weaken student administration.
Council is responsible to the students.
Its actions are freely reported in The Ubyssey. Its minutes are posted. Its files and
ledgers are open to inspection. It must at
the call of any 100 students make full explanation of any of its actions at a general
meeting. Any student may attend its regular Monday evening sessions. Suggestions,
criticisms, requests, may be made through
the subsidiary organizations to its members,
or to its members and officers directly. This
is tho quick way to do business.
I believe thf» plan to enlarge council is
a good one. I firmly believe the plan to
append an "advisory" council is not a good
one.
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unmspr-m Tsrnutfr%«wm Constitution of Coordinator of Social Activities
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• ED LAMBE, Chairman of the existing Coordination
Committee , which has been recently set up under the
jurisdiction of the LSE, upon request of the Revision Board
has submitted the following constitution for the new position
of Coordinator of Social Activities. Because of his previous
experience, Lambe has been able to do an extremely good
job of drafting the following which has the unanimous approval of the Revision Board.
1—The Coordinator of Social Activities shall be responsible
for:
A. Acting as an authority in the hiring of entertainers,
dance-bands, arranging for refreshments, renting of halls, or
any other matters pertinent to social affairs, either on or. off
the campus, and he shall be prepared to offer advice to any
individual or group.
B. Preparing a schedule of noon-hour events in such a
way that large meetings, or meetings affecting similar groups
of students, do not interfere with each other.
C Preparing a schedule of afternoon and evening social
events in such a way that functions occur more or less regularly throughout the year.
D. Securing the active co-operation of all campus organizations in undertakings of campus-wide importance. '
E Extending the mutual understanding and sympathy of
campus organizations.
2—For the purpose of preparing a schedule of noon-hour
events, a Noon-hour Co-ordination Committee shall be formed. The Co-ordinator of Social Activities shall be the Chair
man of this committee.
Membership:
a. The following organizations shall have permanent representation on the Committee: Undergraduate Societies
Committee, Universities Women's Association, Men's Athletic Association, Women's Athletic Association, Players Club,
Musical Society,, Parliamentary Forum, Social Problems
Club, International Relations Club, Canadian Legion (University Branch), Mamooks, Student Christian Movement,
Varsity Christian Fellowship, Radio Society, Music
Directorate.
b. Other organizations and campaign committees shall be
represented at the discretion of the Co-ordinator.
Representation:
a. The representatives of USC, UWA, MAA and WAA
shall be the presidents of these organizations.
b. The representatives of a club shall be constantly either
president or program director of that club.
c. The Music Directorate and campaign committees shall
be represented by their Chairmen.
Meetings:
The Committee shall meet at least twice each month.
The Co-ordinator may Call for more frequent meetings at his
discretion.
Powers:
a. The Committee shall have the power to establish the
relative necessity or importance of events to the campus as a
whole.
b. The Committee shall have the power to cancel any
event which seriously threatens the success of one which it
decides to be more necessary or important.
c. In the event that the Committee car. not meet to decide
on an issue', the above powers shall rest with the Co-ordinator
and the president of Students' Council.
d. The Committee shall have the right to demand specific
notice of any noon-hour event, and to cancel an unsanctioned
event.
3—For the purpose of preparing a schedule of afternoon and
evening functions, a Social Events Co-ordination Committee
shall be formed. The Co-ordinator of Social Activities shall
be the Chairman of this Committee.
Membership:
a. The following shall be the permanent members of this
Committee: One Representative of the USC. The President
of UWA. One Representative from Athletics. Sophomore
Member.
b. Current Campaign committees and other organizations
shall be represented by their chairmen or presidents at the
discretion of the Co-ordinator.
Meetings:
Tho Committee shall meet at least once each month. The
Co-ordinator may call for more frequent meetings at his
discretion.
. Powers:
(As outlined for Noon-Hour Co-ordination Committee).
4—The Co-ordinator of Social Activities shall have the right
to expect responsible executive assistance where he finds this
necessary.
COMMENTARIES OF SOME STUDENT LEADERS
ALEX COWIE
•   IN MY OPINION, of the four proposals advanced by the
Revision Board to alter the constitution, the most important, as far as the general student body is concerned, is the
proposal that an Undergraduate Societies Committee, made
up of the executives of all the Societies, be established to
act as a unified body in discussing the issues and policies
of the Student Council, in safeguarding the constitutional
rights of the members of the Alma Mater Society, and in
maintaining discipline on the campus.
The other three proposals are excellent and are indeed
an advancement over the old set-up in that they tend to
bring order in social activities and make Council more truly
representative of a larger group of students.
However, it is impossible to discuss fully all the proposal*
because of lack of space, so I shall deal only with the Undergraduate Societies Committee.
Tho executive of each faculty is much closer to the
student body than any other body could possibly be. Class
■presidents are someone you know: someone you feel represents you as an individual; .someone with whom you feel free
io assert your opinions and discuss campus problems.
Then what is more logical, than a body made of these
class presidents under the leadership of their faculty presidents set up to discuss and make recommendations on the
issues and plans of Student Council and the problems of
the student body, backed as they are by knowledge of what
the students themselves expect and want? What more effective and direct way is there of bringing forth individual
opinions and ideas? What body could be more truly repre-
sentatve of students? Furthermore, when students realize
that their opinion is being heard and dealt with, they are
bound to take a greater interest in the affairs of student
government; and, after all, isn't that precisely what is needed?
As for discipline, what better group could maintain
student discipline than the -presidents of the Undergraduate
Societies?
With each Undergraduate Society executive called upon
either to maintain discipline in its own faculty or to step
aside and let the other faculty executives take over, it will
have to insure, for the pride of itself and its faculty, that its
faculty is properly controlled.
The students themselves, will insist that their executives
maintain discipline for undergraduate society spirit is high
and.no student will submit to control by another faculty
executive.
In summation, then, this committee represents a union of
the undergraduate societies, representing your opinions, acting as your watch over Council, and effectively administering
discipline on the campus.
BRUCE YORKE
•   SUGGESTION No. 1—That the secretary of the ALMA
MATER SOCIETY, who in the past has done nothing but
record minutes, take over the functions, outlined by the
committee, of the Co-ordinator of Social Activities.
Suggestion No. 2—That the treasurers of L.S.E., M.A.D.,
and C.U.S.C. form with the main treasurer a treasurer's
committee to review all expenditures and grants.
Suggestion No\ 3—That some definite arrangement should
be made for the choosing of University representatives at
college conferences.
Suggestion No. 4—That the CUSC also take on as one of
its functions the annual review of the structure of the Alma
Mater Society, so that if future changes make it necessary
to revise the AMS set-up, a body will be already set up to
make changes (proposed).
All in all I think the new set-up is not too bad. Unfortunately it still does not get over the main difficulty, that is,
an informed student body. This is the whole question of the
function of the Ubyssey. As the only recognized means of
expression on the campus it is dominant in shaping student
opinion.
Whereas the Treasurer in the past has had almost complete control of student finance the editor in chief of the
Ubyssey has had almost complete control of student thought.
This is undemocratic in the extreme. If the publishing of an
article depends on the decision of the editor in chief then
obvously freedom of expression is being seriously curtailed.
Especially in the matter of political, economic, and social
questions we are certainly leaving ourselves wide open tc
mob psychology effects, if an opposing point of view is not
allowed adequate or even equitable expression.
Considering the expense of the Ubyssey to the University students, and despite claims that it is merely a journalism
club in which the members should have a free reign to
expression, the Ubyssey remains a powerful propaganda
weapon. Its influence does not stop at the University as it is
very well known (the Japanese poll, and Carrothers statement that got misquoted last year) and other examples which
show that its effects are widespread. If this is the case it is
imperative that it expresses the opinions of all the students
of the University, not just some who happen to be interested
enough to work on it, but all the students who have something to say.
For this reason I suggest that the policy, style, make-up,
and general tone of the Ubyssey be subject to weekly review
by CUSC and that furthermore that body be the supreme
authority as far as the Ubyssey goes. Thc editor in chief
should bo made directly responsible to them and at every
weekly meeting be obliged to answer their questionings.
Furthermore if that body decides that the editor in chief is
carrying on undemocratic practises it shall have the authoiity
to dismiss him. The Ubyssey is not like other campus activities. It should fiot be handled in the same manner.
JACK BEVERIDGE
• THE CHIEF advantage of the proposed Undergraduate
Societies Committee is that it shifts the duty of directing
general AMS policy onto the executives of the Undergraduate
Societies. The AMS Council cannot properly direct student
policy for two principle reasons: 1) it does not necessarily
represent all groups on the campus; 2) it has no direct connections with the students who elected it. The executives of
the Undergraduate Societies, however, represent every student on the campus. Each member of the% executives represents some small section of the students, and he should know
what his electors want. Although some of the undergraduate
Societies need reorganizing to become effective in this new
set-up the executives of the Undergraduate Societies are the
only groups capable of giving the students the kind of government they want. Tne organization here outlined gives the
Undergraduate executive a duty which is naturally theirs.
ED LAMBE
DON BROWN
RON GRANTHAM
• OUR CRITICISM of the revision proposals will be based
on four requisites of good student government:
1. Efficiency.
a) A Council of twelve members seems likely to be unnecessarily clumsy in operation and execution. The addition of a Co-ordinator seems unquestionable, although
Co-ordination might well have been made a function of
the Second or Third Ycar Representative.
b) At least two members who have no specific function,
a condition which is likely to detract from efficiency.
2. Representation.
a) Specific representation of Sophomore and Junior
Years may have result of lessening unwritten domination
of student affairs by the graduating classes.
b) Representation of undergraduate interests by' one
person removes danger of opposed faculty interests being
represented on Council.
c) USC removes overlapping and confusion of former
undergraduate organization.
3. Contact.
a) USC in touch with students generally through the
faculty executives.
b) In dropping Advisory Council plan, we feel that the
Council's opportunity to meet representatives of the
most active campus groups has been removed.   In this
sense, a measure of contact has been lost.
4. Continuity.
a) Sophomore and junior members on Council will lead
to greater continuity of administrative experience from
year to year.
In general, we feel the revision proposals are sound, and
will support them.
ROY LOWTHER
• THE STUDENT Government Revision Board has made
its report re proposed changes in student government at
UBC; and the onus now rests on you, the student.
The recommendations of the Board are, in my opinion,
a satisfactory compromise between the two plans presented
in January, and should also sufficiently meet the demands of
post-war UBC, and the problems—rehabilitation, university
expansion, etc.—which will be upon us in 1945-46.
There are one or two weaknesses. Certain council members, such as sophomore and junior members, should, I feel,
be elected only by those students whom they represent. Most
important, the responsibility for adequate representation of
student opinion will rest on the Undergraduate Societies
Committee, representing traditionally thc least active, if largest, portion of students. Success of the plan, if adopted, depends upon the members of this committee; I hope they will
fully realize this, and keep the faith with those who elected
them.
To the student I say: Study the report (in last week's
Ubyssey); make your decision; and come prepared to next
Tuesday's annual meeting to express it by your vote.
TED ENGLISH
• I HAVE just read over a condensation of the plan for
Student Council Revision printed in today's Ubyssey. I
have also read over the criticisms and comments of those
who submitted ideas to the Revision Committee. I think both
the plan and the comments are sound and worthy of your
attention as voters at the Tuesday AMS meeting.
A great many comments could be made and a detailed
examination of the Plan to be put up for your approval might
once again be carried on. However, and I believe (modestly
enough) that what I am about to say is the most significant
single statement in this pfaper, the present proposed plan is
the result of many painful hours of discussion and what is
more important a really sincere effort on the part of Committee members to reach a generally satisfactory compromise
between subgested revisions. Whether you will all agree with
every detail of the Plan is doubtful and indeed inadvisable.
You may take it from me that many strong individualist
spirits and flamng democratic ideals had to be tempered in
the meetings of the group of student leaders who drew up
the final plan. They do not suppose that they have found a
Constitutional Chimaeras for UBC. What they do believe is
- that they have found a realistic solution to many of the
student government problems facing or likely to face us in
the near future.
As exemplifying the willingness of the Revision Committee to meet and incorporate student ideas, after the report
had been made up, a section of the report proposing the
changing of Pass Feature jurisdiction from LSE to the Coordinator of Social Activities, being opposed by many students, was deleted.
In the interest of Student government, and in view of the
above statements, I herewith support and SUGGEST YOUR
APPROVAL of the present Plan for Revision.
F. B. TESSMAN
• I HAVE been approached on the subject of voicing an
opinion re representation on the Students' Council of this
University.
In view of the fact that the president of our Society—
'The University Branch, Canadian Legion'—vould not be
contacted before the material went to the press, the following
are my own personal views as a member of the above society.
As this society represents a substantial membership on this
campus, and is subject to much greater membership increase
next year, and in view of the fact that vital problems relating
to returned men's activities are more than likely to arise;
moreso than in the past, I believe that this organization
should be represented on the Students' Council, effective
1945-46. ii
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REVISION BOARD REJECTS REVISION PROPOSALS IN NUTSHELL
FACULTY DELEGATES
By JIM WILSON, Revision Board Chairman
• DBRECT FACULTY representation (Arts, Aggie, Science
and Com.) on Council was rejected by the Board after
having been discussed at great length under the general
headings of Efficiency, Fair Representation, Continuity, and
Contact with the Student Body. Briely, the points pro and
con are as follows:
PRO: (1.) Would provide the broadest possible base for
representation on Council
(2.) Would possibly provide more effective criticism
(3.) Would provide a potential source of workers to do
some of duties of Council
(4.) Would possibly stimulate the activities of the Undergraduate Societies
CON: (1.) Would not make for more efficient functioning
of Council   ,
(2.) Would not provide complete undergraduate representation on Council
(3.) Would not further continuity
(4.) Would in all probability lead to factional disputes
and interests
(5.) Would further overlapping of existing representation
(6.) Would increase the responsibility of the President
in maintaining discipline and allocating work to keep these
members busy
(7.) Would have no real function except as undergraduate ropresontntlvos
(b\) Tried before wlitm University only uno-tlilrd on
large and was dropped
FACULTY REPRESENTATION
The following points evolved from the discussion on
direct faculty representation:
(1.) That the functional aspect of Council was predominant over all others
(2.) That the functional aspect should be strengthened
and not weakened
(3.) That from the functional point of view, the position
of MUS was most unsatisfactory
(4.) That from the point of view of unfair representation
on Council, it was the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year students who had
a legitimate "protest" as all Council members, with the exception of Junior Member, are 4th or 5th year students
(5.) That Council needed more members to help with
some of the work
(6.) That the Undergraduate Society Organizatioas were
the groups that were not assuming the responsibilities they
should and therefore not making their full contribution to
student government on the campus.
Therefore, the Board resolved that an Undergraduate
Societies Committee be established, composed of the executives of each Undergraduate Society, and that the Committee
have a Constitution clearly defining its Object, Structure, and
Function.
Thus it was the aim of the Board to eliminate the confusion of the existing MUS "set-up," re-vitalize the Undergraduate Society Organizations, provide for the function of
tho proopsed "Advisory Council" idea, and at the same time
leave Council free to work as swiftly and as efficiently as
possible.
SUMMARIES OF VARIOUS
BRIEFS GIVEN TO BOARD
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• IN PRESENTING this Special Edition, the Revision
Board requested reflections on their recommendations by the
six men who were interested enough in student government to present briefs to the Board for its consideration.
Roy Lowther emphasized UBC in the post-war world:
"the future takes priority over the present." Further, "UBC,
in view of its dominant position on the National Federation
of Canadian University Students, has an unparalleled opportunity to move this very important body in the direction
of effective participation in post-war education, rehabilitation,
employment etc. as these issues involve universities and their
students". Lowther suggested increasing membership of Students' Council to twelve by the addition of the Presidents of
AUS, EUS, CUS and Aggie US, and the editor-in-chief and
Legion president as ex-officio members, also the abandonment of the office of President of MUS.
Ed Lambe, Don Brown and Ron Grantham proposed
that MUS and WUS be replaced by a committee of the executives of all the Undergraduate. Societies. It should be chair-
maned by an Undergraduate Men's Representative and an
Undergraduate Women's Representative, both members of
Students' Council.
Ted English presented a brief which partly coincided
with the views of LSE but was mainly his own composition.
Ho advocated the retention of the nine-man Council though
he suggested that a committee of Undergraduate Societies
be headed by the former president of MUS with the former
president of WUS as vice-president.
It was noted that each of the independent briefs of Roy
Lowther, Ed Lambs and Co., and Ted English advocated the
setting up of an advisory council. Roy Lowther termed it
thus, Ed Lambe called it the Advisory Group and Ted English /\amed it the Representative Recommendations Council
though tho organization and functions of each are somewhat
similar.
Alex Cowie suggested that Council drop the position of
■ Junior Member but add six Undergraduate Presidents. He
proposed various committees that could be set up such as
the Men's Athletic Diretory, the Women's Athletic Directory,
the Discipline Committee, a Publicity Committee and a
Treasury Committee.
Cowie and Ted English both advanced the idea of a
Treasury Committee but the Board decided that decentral-
• LAST MONDAY evening, Students' Council unanimously passed the proposals of the Student Government Revision Board, as presented to Council by its Chairman, Jim
Wilson.
It was decided to submit these proposals to the general
student body at the Annual AMS meeting, Tuesday, March
27.
The following are the proposals of the Revision Board:
1. That the Undergraduate Societies' Committee composed of the executives of each Undergraduate Society be
established; that the chairman be elected by and from
this Committee; that the chairman so elected replace
the existing president of MUS.
2. That the Literary and Scientific Executive have the
authority to elect to Council its own president by whatever means the Executive decides most satisfactory.
3. That a new position, Coordinator of Social Activities,
be created; that the CSA be elected at large; that the
CSA shall fulfill the duties and functions as outlined
in the proposed constitution for that office.
4.   That a Sophomore member be included on Students'
Council;
A sincere attempt has been made by the Board to advance a plan for student government which will be compatible with the future expansion of UBC. As a Library system
allows' for expansion, so this plan allows for new innovations.
But the Board feels it has a second value; it provides for a
more efficient administration of campus business and activities. Such a quality is vital if an organization is to grow up
smoothly and successfully.
In keeping with the aim of making Council as functional
a body as possible, it was also decided: That a new position,
Co-ordinator of Social Activities be created whose function
and duty shall be as outlined in the constitution.
That this member of Council be elected at large.
COUNCIL AS PROPOSED BY REVISION BOARD
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COMMITTEE
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CAS—COORDINATOR SOCIAL ACTTVTnES
Constitution of Undergrad Societies Committee
•    THIS CONSTITUTION of the Undergraduate Societies
Committee has been drawn up in the hope that it might
prove a workable ba.sis for a more detailed constitution.
ARTICLE I—Name
The name <> fthe Committee .shall be "the Undergraduate
Societies    Committee    of    the    University    of    British
Columbia."
ARTICLE II—Object
The object of the Committee shall be:
a. To promote, direct, control and coordinate the activities of the various Undergraduate Societies through
their executives on this Committee.
b. To act as the medium through which the undergraduate body can effectively express their views on matters important to them as members of the Alma Mater
Society.
c. To safeguard the constitutional rights of all members
of the AMS in the matters of elections, special and
general meetings, expenditures, discipline, et cetera.
ARTICLE in—Members
a. Members of the USC shall be:
1) Active members of the Alma Mater Society as de-
b. President and executives of each Undergraduate Society shall comprise the membership of the USC and
any officers shall be elected from their ranks.
c. A member of the Publications Board shall sit on the
USC.
ARTICLE IV—Voting
a. The Chairman of the USC shall never have a vote.
b. The maximum number of votes cast shall be equivalent to the maximum number of Undergraduate
Societies represented on the USC irregardless of the
comparative size of the different Undergraduate Societies.
ARTICLE V—Duties of Member Officials
a. The presidents of the Undergraduate Societies together with the Chairman of the USC shall form a standing Discipline Committee which shall conform with
the provisions of Article XII of the Code of the Alma
Mater Society of UBC.
b. The Chairman of the USC:
1) As a member of the Students' Council, shall be
empowered to present to Students' Council for serious consideration any amendment or proposal receiving a majority of votes within the USC.
2) Shall head the standing Discipline Committee.
3) Shall perform all such other duties as usually fall
ARTICLE VI—Duties of the USC (in brief)
a. To act as the standing Discipline Committee.
b. To foster co-operation among the Undergraduate So-
cieties in the interests of successful prosecution of
drive.--, benefits and post-war schemes affecting the
future of the undergraduate student body.
to thc Chairman of a Committee.
c. To devise a new awards system in conjunction with
Athletics, LSE and Publications. It is recommended
that the new system be on a point basis and that the
award represent a summation of a student's activities
while at the University. It is also recommended that
this Committee be responsible for the administration
of the new system and the issuing of Awards.
ARTICLE VII—Election of Members
a. Elections for the executives of each Undergraduate
Society shall be held the week following the final
elections for members of Students' Council—eg. the
last week in February.
b. The newly elected executives of each Undergraduate
Society shall meet together as the USC during the
first week in March to elect their Chairman.
c. Provision shall be made in the constitutions of each
Undergraduate Society for elections to fill any position
which may be vacated if its holder is elected Chairman
of the USC.
ARTICLE Vm—Meetings
Meetings of the USC shall be held once every week,
preferably at the Monday noon-hour.
c. The vice-president shall perform all such duties of the
Chairman in his or her absence with the exception of
representing the USC on Students' Council.
d. The secretary-treasurer shall perform the usual duties
of tho secretary and treasurer of a Committee. As
treashrer, this official shall cooperate with the Treasurer of the AMS.
e. Coordinator of the USC shall sit on the committees
of the Coordinator of Social Activities will full knowledge of the proposed immediate activities of the various Undergraduate Societies. The Coordinator shall
also be in charge of all publicity.     '
f. The Publications Board member of the USC shall
mediate between the "Ubyssey" staff and the Committee.
g. The Chairman of the War Aid Council shall be elected
by the Undergraduate Societies Committee and need
not be on the US executive.
ization of the powers of the purse was not desirable since
the ultimate responsibility rests upon the AMS treasurer.
The Students' Council would be rechristened the Policy
Council if Bruce Yorke's plan were adopted. This Council
would consist of a President, Secretary, Treasurer, the respective presidents of five boards, the four major faculty
presidents and the editor-in-chief. The five boards, which
would meet once a week separate from each other and the
weekly meeting of the Policy Council, would be as follows:
I, Men's Sports; II, Women's Sports; III, Literary and Scien
tific; IV, Social Activities, and V, Disciplinary, Governmental
and Proomtional Board representing both men and women.
Marshall Bauder pointed out to the Board the favourable
possibilities of placing each Undergraduate Society president
on Council, illustrating their probable duties if such a move
were taken.
On the reverse side of this page will be found commentaries on the proposals of the Revision Board by active
campus leaders.

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