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Issued Twice Weekly by the Students' Publications Board of The University of British Columbia.
Volume VIII.
No. 18.
Adoption of Game Discussed by Professors
Should U. B. C. adopt Canadian Rugby? This question which has been
debated off and on during the past term, still arouses considerable interest
whenever mentioned in University circles. In view of this (act, the Ubyssey
has decided to Interview several of the professors in order to ascertain their
opinions on this question. Many ot these professors have had the opportunity ot viewing the game in all its phases In American colleges and for
this reason their opinions are Important although unofficial.
Or. Todd I
"It V. B. C. were to enter into football relations with American Universities, we should have to take defeats compared with which the one we got
from Puget Sound, a third rate team, would look almost like a draw; ore-lie we should have to make up our minds to compete on fairly even terms.
The latter alternative, though not adopted openly at first, would gradually
but surely prevail. The result would be at least five-fold. (1) We should
have expensive coaches, with the football degenerating partly into a series
Ot chess games between masters. (2) An excessive amount of time would
be given to practice, that bigh scholarship and athletic supremacy would be
a rare combination, Instead ot a normal thing as at present. We are not
surprised at seeing a first-class scholar on a soccer team, but when a
Harvard captain found his- way into
the scholarship group, it was played
up as a bit of news. (8) The attention of the campus would tend to
get fooUBsed on every Saturday's
game, which would more aud more
turn from a sport to a tragic struggle. This is the testimony not only
of Owen, a Harvard star who graduated in '88, but ot others who have
been giving their views in the Harvard Alumni Bulletin In the last two
months. (4) The actual playiug of
-games would become limited to a
small group of carefully weeded supermen, trained to fight our battle
against another Institution, while the
majority took their exercise rooting.
(6) The relative emphasis on athletics and scholarship would become
inverted in the press, by reflection
from tho campus, the yearly honours
list being replaced In importance by
a season full of first page news on
football, star players becoming more
Important during the autum than
premiers or legislatures.
These results can be predicted
with some confidence, because they
represent the facts In many American university cities from Atlantic
to Pacific, The situation has been
glvtug anxiety to college presidents
and staffs, antl now it 1st more than
disquieting to the undergraduates
themselves lu Harvard, Vale and
Princeton, and I believe in other
places. Two schools, Reed College
and Antloch College, refuse to have
any inter-colleglate football. Most
of the others seem to feel that the
situation is bad, and that it has got
out ot control and is hopeless.
To me it seems a very questionable
policy, just when American institutions are trying to lift the incubus
to put ourselves under it deliberately."
Dr. F. Wilcox:
In regard to the introduction of
American rugby Into the University
of British Columbia, Dr. Wilcox stated
in an Interview that he preferred the
American game to the English, but
would object to Its Introduction on
the grounds that It would entail a
great expense, and would distract the
students too much from their studies.
Dr. T. H   Boggs:
"I And myself unable to render a
definite decision, bemuse, to my mlno,
there Is a very strong argument on
both sides
There Is this lo be said In favor of
the proposal: In Rugby, aa In o-lier
games, we must have Inter-colleglate
competition If possible. We must
find It or make It, The only kind of
rugby that will yield inter-colleglate
competition on account of our geographical location Is American foot
On the other side, against adopting
the American gume, there U this to
consider: If we adopt American
rugby In the University we will want,
naturally, to compete with Institutions that we count of similar rank
as ourselves, such as the Universities
of Washington, Oregon and perhaps
(Continued on Page 8)
Varsity to Meet
in Debate
A timely question of interest to all
Canadians will be vigorously threshed
out on Friday evening, when Varsity
Inter-colleglate debaters clash with
forensic stars from the University of
Saskatchewan. The topic under discussion is, "Resolved, that a return to
the traditional two-party system of
government would be beneficial to
The U.B.C, team will consist of
Messrs. Gordon Telford and Leslie
Brown, who are too well-known to
need any introduction to the students
of this University. Mr. 8. Saper and
Mr. V. E. Graham will take the platform on behalf of the University of
As this is a dual debate, Messrs. H.
Purdy and R. Palmer are leaving for
(Continued on Page 4)
Espionage, or Honor System ?
The time has come when a definite decision should be made
by the Student Body as to what form of disciplinary machinery
is to bo used within this University.
The present system of vigilants is obviously obnoxious to
the majority of students. The system smacked unpleasantly of
espionage to begin with, and this distasteful feature was heightened by Council's unwise decision to withhold the names of the
vigilants. Furthermore, the Council, though quite within their
rights in establishing a vigilance system, should, on such an
important subject, have first sought student opinion.
The only other system of discipline formulated this year,
the Studonts' Court, has been temporarily withheld from operation by an omniscient Senate. The Court has but one serious
weakness: its officers will be already-overworked student leaders. Apart from this, however, the Students' Court must be
classed under cures, rather than preventives. Standing alone,
it can offer no encouragement to that discipline most needed
within a university—self-discipline.
Self-discipline in it university implies the existence of an
honor system, and il is, therefore, some form of such a scheme
(.hat we think itiiulit wvy well he tried at V. H. ('. Let us draw
up regulations fur our conduct, and mutually agree that he
wlui breaks a rule is so lacking in moral sense that trust cannot be placed in his honor.
If the Alma Mater society, after really serious, individual
thinking decides to adopt the system, wc have sufficient faith
in our fellow students and in ourselves to believe that it will
bo successful. The penalty of appearing in the eyes of your
best friends as a moral slacker, and in the eyes of the public
as a member of a university incapable of carrying out an honor
system, is too great to be incurred. Once let tho students, with
eyes open, adopt the system by a good majority, and its success
is certain.
Wednesday noon an Alma Mater meeting is being called
especially to discuss discipline. Everyone should he there. The
decision made there may be the most important over made by
students of this University.
A final word: Rejection of tho vigilance system does not
necessarily mean a criticism of Council policy. The scheme
has heen considered merely a makeshift until tho Court, or a
similar system, was established. Council members who threaten
to resign if tiie vigilance committee is abolished, do so wrongly.
Unless expressly stated, abolition by tho meeting would not
mean a direction to the Council by its doctors, to try some
other method. No Council member should resign on this
issue, unasked, unless he is absolutely certain that it would
be in full disagreement with his inmost convictions to aid iu
carrying out any other policy. And we are sure that no
Council member is so situated.
Students! Think carefully. Do not jump at tho Honor
system, or any other scheme. Hut vote frankly, and with clear
intention, for what you deem best.
Varsity Sseures Unanimous Decision in Both Contests
The great things that were expected from the only women's interns*
tlonal debate of the term were realised to their fullest extent when U.B.C.
women met the representatives of the college of Puget Sound on WednesdSf
evening last, In both contests U.B.C. won the unanimous deoislon of tht
Judges, so that at last Varsity can feel a little compensated for Its defeat
in American football by Puget Sound last term.
The at-home debate held in the auditorium, was well attended despite
the cold and the distance of the buildings from the eity.
Miss Marion Smith, president Women's Literary Society, was chairman
of the debate, while those who acted as Judges were Justice Helen McOill,
Mr. Beverley Cayley, antl Mr. 0. T. Butterfleld.
The debate commenced at 8.36, when Miss Marion Smith formally wel*
corned the visitors from Taooma and
announced the subject of the debate,
"Resolved that Inter-allled debts be
reduced." Miss Smith then called
upon Miss Jean Tolrnie, leader for the
affirmative, to open the case for
U. B. C.
After a few well-chosen words of
welcome to her opponents, and a
short discussion of the meaning of
the title of the debate, Miss Tolmie
proceeded to prove the necessity for
reducing Inter-allled debts. While
the speaker did not put as much force
Into the delivery of her statements
as those who have heard her In the
past might have expected, her audience could not help being very favorably Impressed by the logic of her
arguments, and the truth latent in
them. Miss Tolmie outlined her plan
and it was a simple matter to follow her train or reasoning through
to her well summed-up conclusion.
Miss Mildred Hawksworth, first
speaker for Puget Sound, began by
thanking the U.B.C. women for their
efforts to make their short stay a
pleasant one, and expressed a desire
that Puget Sound College and U.B.C.
might meet In many more debates in
the future.
Mlas Hawksworth began by proving
the first of three divisions into which
the speakers had divided their subject, namely, that the people of the
United States consider their debtors
unable to pay.
Miss Hawksworth had a very pleasing stage manner. Her arguments,
too, were good ones and were stated
fairly clearly, although the points presented by the speaker were not ar-
ntnged with as much precision as
were those of the leader of the affirmative.
In presenting the political and moral reasons which make the reduction
of the debts a necessity, M13S Kathleen Baird adopted a style of less deliberative and forensic oratory than
that of either of her predecessors.
Miss Baird has an excellent stage
manner, however, and although sentiment formed a strong factor In her
argument, her subject was one which
lent itself to that form of expression.
Miss Baird showed the political and
moral advantages of reducing the
Miss Marvel Vandel, of the negative, proceeded to prove that reduc
tlon would not bring about the desired results, being very impracticable, and that full payment is necessary to maintain the sacred institution of international credit.
Miss Vandel had a rather rich voice
which carried well and added force to
her statements which were clearly
and methodically delivered.
The rebuttal for the negative was
■riven by Miss Mildred Hawksworth,
who refuted the statement made by
'he affirmative that debtor nations
were unable to pay, stressing again
'he harmful Influence reduction of
'ebts would have on world credit.
Miss Jean Tolmie, in refuting the
'titements of the negative, made her
powerful arguments more convincing
by the force of her delivery. She
maintained that for reasons of securl-
♦v France was forced to keep the
army and aeroplanes which her opponents had condemned, Miss Tolmie stressed again the Inability of
European debtor nations to pt>y, and
ended her rebuttal by stating that as
an act of Christian morality creditor
nations should reduce the debts,
(Continued on Page t)
S.C.M. Delegates
Go To jtaskatoon
A Western Canada conference ol
the Students' Christian Movement
was held at the University of Saskatchewan at Saskatoon, from December
20 to January 2. U. B. C. was represented by four delegates; Miss Margaret Gordon, Miss Clare MoQuarrie,
Miss Doris Woods and Mr. Victor
Osterhaut. All the Western Universities had large representations and
delegates also attended from McGIU
and Toronto.
A great many problems were discussed. The status of the foreign
stu(len,t in our Universities was. dealt
with at considerable length. As the
S. C. M. of Canada is affiliated with
the World Student Christian Federation, many more than local problems
were discussed. During the war a
fund created so that war-stricken
students might be given relief waa
converted into a "Student Friendship
Fund" for students irregardless ot
their religion to draw upon. British
Columbia students derived great
benefit from meeting the students of
other Universities and from comparing and discussing problems.
After tho conference on January 2
and 3, the General Committee of the
S. C. M. of Canada met to discuss
matters of business and policy for the
coming year. Miss McQuarrle represented the S. C. M. of TJ. B, C, It Is
probable that next year there will be
a national covifo.ence at Montreal,
since it Is four years since there has
been one. If this materializes, It is
hoped that a greater number of U. B.
C. students will be able to attend
and get the practical benefit as well
as the inspirational value of such a
conference. The S. C. M. and particularly those students who attended the conference wish to thank
t.iose friends who made it financially
possible for the delegates to attend.
The budding Mark Antonies ot our
Alma Mater will shortly be given
the opportunity tor starring in the
big forensic event of the year, tha
Men's Oratorical Contest. A try-out
will be held on Friday, January 21,
open to all men students of the University. Each competitor may speak
for live minutes on any subject he
The number of candidates will be
reduced to four or six speakers ot
approximately equal talent. Those
will have their fates decided at the
Oratorical Contest Itself. The winner ot the event will be presented
with a gold medal, and the runner-
up a somewhat similar one In silver.
Iloth will he given direct entry Into
ihe City Oratorical Contest.
The Oratorical Contest will be held
on the evening of February 10, in the
Auditorium, This year all students
aro Invited to attend the contest, as
are their friends, relatives, and anyone else who 1b Interested.
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January 12th. 1926       i
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(Member of Pacific Inter-Collegiate Press Association).
Issued every Tuesday and Friday by the Student Publications Board of the
University ot British Columbia, West Point Orey.
Phone: Varaity 1434
Mall Subscriptions rate: $8. per year.   Advertising rates on application.
Editorial Staff
EDITOR-IN-CHIEF—A. Earle Birney.
Senior Editors—Miss Sadie Boyles and W. Murphy.
Associate Editors—David Warden, Miss Marlon Smith, Don Calvert and
Miss Kathleen Baird.
Feature Editors—Eric Dunn, E. Morrison
*       Assistant Editors—Miss Florence Cassidy, Miss Alice Weaver.
■uolnooo Staff
Business Manager—Harold 0. McWIlliams.
Advertising Manager—J. Stanley Allen.
Circulation Manager—Dtgby Leigh
Business Assistants—Lyle Straight and T. Barnett.
Senior, Sadie Boyles; Associate, David Warden; Assistant, Alice Weaver
III one particular at leant, those in charge of Wednesday's pop
. meeting aro to be commended. Kaeli skit, in turn, reminded students of the debate which wbn tlio raison d' etro of tho rally.
A cUrious example of the case with which the original purpose
Of a tradition can be lost has been furnishoed by recent pop meeting
programmes. In tho old-fashioned days the skits wore always intended to give students a further reminder of the coming game, and
the inventive genius of the undergraduate was trained to produce
lets which would directly rouse interest in the contest.
Last term, however, skits of this sort were superseded by vaudeville turns and comio songs, excellent in themselves, but having nothing to do with football or rugby. In fact, some skits have revealed
charms destined rather to distract the souls of the audience away
from the stern battle on tho morrow.
Vaudeville, when it is of the sufficiently high standard shown
St recent performances, is quite all right. But if it can not be related more explicitly with tho business in hand, it should not have
atiy part in that business, and should bo staged separately. When
arranging programmes to inject pep for a game, let us by all means
have skits which will aid in the inoculation.
Looking at the matter from another side, of course, the main
responsibility for the inconsistency of past pop meetings, lies with tho
audience. Undergrads allow themselves to be lured to the meetings
only by the bait of elaborate and original skits—no matter if they
have not the slightest connection with the next day's event. Many of
them, in fact, have not the least intention of going to the game, and,
naturally are bored if the performers tend to harp upon the subject.
They*g° there to be entertained and, if the programme is not up to
their expectations ,thcy raise the cry of "Sold," and depart with
an injured air.
Such an attitude is indeed curious. In fact, it's worse than
that—it is ridiculous.
Considerable reflection on tho part of tho students and a continuance of the example set by last week's programme-makers, should
bring u» back to normalcy.
Arrangements are now beitiK made
for the Women's Annual Oratorical
contest. For the benefit of Arts '29
it mlRht be well to explain j..st what
thiB Is. Every year, the women of
the University devote one evening to
oratory. Any undergraduate may enter the contest, provided she conforms
to certain rules.
There are two book prizes, the first
worth *12, and the second worth $8.
This year it Is expected that the
contest will be held on the evening
of the 20th, definite announcement,
however will be made later. But all
those desiring to compete MUST
hand In their names to Marlon Smith
or Wanetta Leach before the 15th. No
names will be accepted after that
Watch the paper for further announcements.
The following was received Just before the Christmas examinations from
U B.C. grads at Illinois, whose names
are remembered with pleasure by
senior students:
"1.10 a.m., November 24, 1925.
"Four youths -very dry—four bags
of candy—very sweet no women—
vevy good—one radio—very noisy—
four packages cigarettes very rank -
much talk -very U.B.C. two Prov-
inees—very oltl one reunion -very
pleasant • one Ubyssey very welcome-more talk -very technical-—one
banjo—very tuneless four songs-
very beaut 1 lul one U.B.C. pennant -
very prominent- one early train -
very unfortunate--'four curses--very
violent- four best wishes very sincere.
"A. EVAN BOSS, '21.
".I   ALLEN HARRIS, '22.
"KEN. F. ANDEN, '25."
Sc. '29 clasa pin on 8.8. "Victoria."
Owner tee J. E. KinU, 8c. '23.
The Ubyssey announces the promotion of Miss Jean Tolmie t'roni Assistant Editor on the Ubyssey staff to
Assoi-lale Editor of the Annual. This
poHiilon of the Uhysitey year hook Ih
n more than usually responsible one
lis lis holder automatically takes
chiir.i'e of the Annual the followltiK
year. Miss Wanetta Leach has resigned her duties as Assocato Editor
on the I'hyssey staff to take over the
editorship of the Annual, and It Is expected that this year's annual will, in
consequence, be of high calibre. Miss
Kathleen Baird, who has done excellent work on the reportorinl staff, has
been promoted to fill the vacancy left
by Miss Leach's resignation.
The telephone In the Publications
and other Student offices are for business use by members of staffs and executives only    All others pay cash.
An important meeting of the Men's
Swimming Club took place on Wednesday noon. A fairly large number
of members was on hand, but fully
two-thirds of the Club did not make
an appearance. President Allen has
some not very complimentary remarks to make to that "Indifferent
Among other questions discussed
was the one of raising swimming to
a minor sport. However, It was decided to postpone this discussion to
a move propitious time. It was announced that the life-saving classeM
will be held on Monday ■ftnrnoon.
at the regular hour. Wafer-polo Is
under the ehargo of Melllah, who Is
an authority upon the game. All
those desiring to play should see him
Immediately. The meeting decided
upon Thursday evening, January 2M,
as the time for the lnter-class meet.
Eliminations nre to be staged on the
Thursday before. With the splendid trophy offered hy Allan and Boult-
bee as a reward for the winning
clasa, it Is expected that this meet
will be a hard-fought contest.
Council Discusses
Various Questions
When council met for the first time
this year on Monday, January 5th,
considerable business came up tor discussion. A letter from the Men's Olee
Club of Willamette requesting that arrangements be made to present a concert recital by that club at this college was read over and the proposition declined, there being no suitable
dates for a presentation since local
events engage those evenings suggested,
The Senior A basketball team made
formal application for permission to
play a game at Ilelllngham and sanction was granted.
In the Interests of varsity debaters
council authorised the debates manager to arrange with the librarian for
use of the seminar room tn the llbrury
building for purpose of debate preparation.
Concerning the local fraternities
ami sororities, which artt recognized
by the A,M.S., it was reported that the
minutes of the Inter-fraternlty ami
Inter-sorority boards will In future be
regularly submitted to council for
Mr. Wilkinson drew council's attention to the fact that many freshmen
returned to the spring term without
their green arm-bands. Freshmen In
fault will take notice that tho wearing
of regulation green ribbons must continue until the end of spring.
Financial statements of the Basketball Club on the local game and
dance, and the interior tour to Kamloops and Revelstoke were placed before council. A report of the Victoria
trip was also submitted and along
with the others was Judged satisfactory.
The proposition to Incorporate the
^ M.S. occasioned a lengthy discussion. The Inadequacy of the present
state of affairs was readily brought
out when the advantages of incorporation were outlined, the mooting adjourned after deciding to await reports of a committee composed of J.
Oliver and T. Wilkinson, who will
confer with the president on matters
relating to the question In hand.
President Kllnk presided at the
first of the meeting and gave an Informative talk on the relation and attitude of Senate to the Student's
Council as a governing body of student affairs.
Puget Sound Debate
(Continued from Page 1)
During the Interval in which the
Judges were forming their decision,
'he University orchestra played selections until the results of the judging were announced by Miss Marion
The sportsmanlike spirit with which
'•e visiting team accepted the decision of the Judges In favor of their
opponents, characterized their entire
stay in Vancouver, and It is slncere-
v lo be hoped that the University of
'V C. will again have the pleasure ol
receiving them In another visit some
>t" in the near future.
The true meaning of
is aane expenditure and
money's worth.
In Men's Clothing it is
expressed in
Suits for Men
Young Men
now selling at reduced
prices for the January
Clearance Sale.
$1575, $1975,
$24-75, $29.75.
David Spencer
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evident there
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18th, 1926
After this date an additional fee of $2.00
will be exacted of all students in default.
Students are requested not to leave payment of fees until the last day.
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Litany Coroner
(Thl. Poem Was Rejected by Our
Literary Editor.)
By Sydney Kins Ruoeoll
With restless eyes antl plaintive air
Love went wandering Qod knows
Love went down the road a space,
Love . , , nnd no one saw his face.
No one knew his heart was sad,
Love Is such a quiet lad;
Till they heard his parting cry,
No one know that Lovo could die.
Love was young . . . and ono could
Me had tasted loneliness;
Yet somewhere 1 heard it told
In n whisper . . . Love Is old.
Older than the thoughts of men,
Old us life, and twice again,
Weary too, ot earth and sky;
Love went crying . . . was that why?
Faculty Interviewed on
American Rugby
(Continued from Page 1)
California and Stanford.    (We won't
be satisfied with normal schools and
small unimportant universities,)
To do so, It will be necessary to
adopt the elaborate and expensive
type of athletic organization that exists In the large universities to the
South. What la meant, Is the highly-
paid coaches, etc., all of which will
make It necessary to introduce many
of the commercialised features of the
sport which so far have been avoided
in English rugby.
I would favor the adoption of American rugby In this university if 1
were assured that we could avoid
commercializing of sport. I person-
tended the games at Yale and Her-
ally like American Rugby (having at-
vard Tor twelve years), and if I were
sure we could escape the accompanying circumstances I would certainly
say 'yes' for its Introduction."
Dr. Keenleyelde
"Some years ago as a student In
the University of British Columbia I
both wrote and spoke In favor of the
Introduction of a professional coaching system, nnd American Football.
Since that time I have had the opportunity of seeing American college
athletics from tho Inside both as
player anil coach. I am now glad lo
take  this opportunity to recant,
American football Is an excellent
Kamc, and if we could have It as a
game there would be no valid reason
lo overlook it at l'. It. ('. Hut it' we
do Introduce it, it will mean Mint we
will Itave to piny n trains I American
colleires where It Is not a minie Inn
it religion. Naturally we will try In
win. That will mean the hiring of
expensive coaches (Vale had twenty-
four lust year), and, ultimately, the
subsidizing of players. It will destroy the essential pleasure of sport,
and substliute an Idiotic, exaggerated,
anil dishonest professionalism. We
will play not. for the love of the game
but for publicity, newspaper headlines, and victory—above all,  victory.
If American football Is Introduced
here It will mean that, at the very
time that the better American universities are rebelling against Its
disastrous Influence, U. R, C. will be
entering the system. Instead of being an almost unique and thoroughly
respected Institution our University
will become a minor Imitation of those
academic machines which at present
disgrace many states of the Union.
This Is not, I believe, an exaggerated
The establishment of American
footbnll at U. n. V. may be Inevitable,
but to anyone who knows the games,
as It le organized, and who appreciates Ihe Hrltlsh Ideals of unnrt, this
can only be regarded as a disaster."
Prof. Logan
Mr. Logan, speaking as an on look
er who has nail no Inside experience
In the gitine, says Unit "(julle generally, Hie Introduction of American
rugby Into Canadian l-Dlversltlcs Is
desirable |f It lines not niean the
sacrificing of the amateur traditions
of those Universities." That Is, ihe
game "should he played by U, H. tl"
If It could he taken up without doing
away with the essentially amateur nature of college sport. Therefore, Mr.
Logan counsels, "It would be gootl to
try American rugby for a time" If
Varsity adopted It with the determination   that it   should not.   secure   such
(Specially Contributed by an
A pep meeting was staged on Wed
Destiny noon by the Men's Lit, to
it rouse enthusiasm for the debate in
te evening. The programme was
drawn up on short notice, consequently II  was unprepared,
Brio Dunn, the Education '26 funny
ti hn, and president of the Men's Lit.,
tilled to appeur In the headlltiel',
much lo the disappointment or the
audience, To compensate, Les Drown
and Thos. Tnylor both made short
speeches. Two well-known "lilggahs"
entertained the front rows and tho
inker one gave a trombone solo with
t tloublo entendre. The next Item, a
chess tournament, was a clever enough satire but the players, with the
•xceptlon of Buckley, were obviously
out of condition.
The remainder of the programme,
Including the appearance ot the
Messrs. Murphy and Oeorge Davidson,
was  good   buffoonery.
The affair was not altogether a success, for reasons already stated. But
u suggestion has been offered: "How
about Science staging a real pep
a hold that It would practically "run"
the   college.
Prof. 8oward
"American football is a splendid
game, as a game, but It Inevitably Is
professionalized. This involves playing the game not as games are played In U. B, C. at present, for the
game's sake, but for the glory of
winning. All other sports are either
crowded out altogether or thrown Into Insignificance by this 'football hysteria.' This crowding out of other
sports would have the result of making many students who now take an
active Interest In these sports play
no game at all."
-  - —»••»»■♦— -
Spring Programme
of the Biological
Discussion Club
The first meeting of the Club this
term was held January 4. The final
papers on "Parasitism" were read
by Miss A. Ilerkeloy on "Animal Parasitism" and Mr. Dick Plllsbury on
"Plant Parasitism."
During the Spring Session, several
papers will be given on "Evolution."
The subject will be treated historically; tlie lives of the various men will
be touched tijioii und their contributions to lite theory discussed. The
following is the programme for the
next two meetings.
.January l*v "Predurwinlsm" or
tin.' "Period to 1S50," hy Hurbani
Sterling  und   Jack   Drldge.
February 1.     "Wallace," by Maude
"Darwin,"   by  Paul   Vrooin.
The meeting of Januray 18 will be
held at the home of Margaret Keillor, 1220 Barclay Street, at 8 p.m.
"AH" members are requested to attend.
-. ..♦ -«•*- *
The first meeting of "La Cana-
dlenne" will be held on Thursday
evening. The plans for the meetings
of this term will be discussed.
The ChemlBtry Society will meet
on Wednesday, January 13, nt the
home of Miss May Black, 3537 3rd
Ave W. Art. Oallaugher will give
an address on the subject of "Anaesthetics."
-.<•»■ •
"That's a new ono on me," said the
monkey as he scratched his back.
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"The words of garrulous women,"
I said tn the newest and sweetest
editors, "nre like flights of steps front
utiles." The sweetest editor, who
Is a bright child, smiled sunnily,
"The flight of steps," she said,
"Is Invariably Inclined towards
places equally vacant." This was
true repartee, for It was the obvious response: anil few women possess the gift of repartee, When In
want of a crushing rejoinder, the woman who Is mentally alert relies upon the Intonation of a scornful "Ileal-
ly?" while the majority Is perforce
content to utter "Oh!" with a prolonged and rising Inflection. These
nre non-committal answers; and as
Kung Fti-Tzu said, "What Is the use
of a gllh tongue that only makes men
hate you?"
The tumult and the shouting dies,
etc, It Is now a week since the Victoria trip occurred. The gods from
Olympla and the Editorial page have
spoken, and, as usual, tt has been
left for the feature staff to come forward wtth the first intelligent suggestion on future Victoria trips. This
Is It. Next year, and thereafter, why
not make the Victoria trip a reunion of Varsity graduates and undergraduates? There Is no doubt
that graduates should be brought in
touch with the University at least
once u year. New Year's Is the Ideal
time for such a reunion. The holidays free an unusually large number
of graduates and students otherwise
engaged In work or study. It is, of
course, Ironical that we should have
to go to Victoria for a homecoming,
but then nobody except a congenital
fathead would be astnlnely pedantic
enough to insist that It is the buildings that make the University?
Women students, especially freshettes, who are Interested In track activities should watch the notice
boards this week for announcements
about the big Track Meet, which Is
this session being hold In the spring
instead ot In the fall as In former
years. Oet up some enthusiasm and
try out for one of the teams! Anyone wishing Information should enquire from the President, Doris
Woods, Arts '28, or from their class
athletic representative.
Women students are urged to take
more Interest In truck. It Is a splendid form of athletics and should hold
a more important place in University
sports than it does at present. Interest your friends in It. Turn out
for the practices. Freshettes! show
what 'lilt can do on the track.
• *•* -
Stan Allan: "Do you serve lobsters hero?"
Walter:  "Yes, sit down."
The preliminary results of the tryouts for the Spring Play, Bernard
Shaw's "Pygmalion," have been posted, and those Interested are watching
anxiously for the final decision. The
Inlorpreitttloiis given by Miss Pumphrey ami Miss Barton, of Lisa, the
heroine or the play, aro bo entirely
different that it Is felt that there will
he difficulty In choosing the actress.
Competition Is also keen between
Harry Warren, Peter Price, and Leslie Howlott, for the part of Henry
Hlggens, hero or the play.
Honor Kldd was given the part Of
Mrs. Ponrce arter the preliminary
tryouts, which speaks well for her
acting. D'Arcy Marsh was also given
his part without further competition,
Seniors of all faculties are request*
ed to note that the Senior Ball will
take place at the Ambassador on
February 22.
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Swimming Club
Arranges Gala
Tho Men's Swimming Club has recently received another token of Its
popularity and of outside Interest.
This recent tribute is tn the form of
a beautiful silver cup presented by
Allan and Boultbee - Ltd. for inter-
class competition, There promises
to be keen rivalry botween the years
for this splendid trophy.
As it has been previously announced, the first League meet takes
place at Chalmer's tank on Wednesday (tomorrow), January 13th, at
8.30 p.m. On that night Varsity, it
is hoped, will show Itself superior to
tho Meraloma Swimming Club and
the Q. S. Club in the arts of diving
and swimming, etc. The team that
competed In Victoria will be greatly
strengthened by the Inclusion of several of the Club's stars who were unable to get over to the Capital. The
line-up will Include most of the following:-—Bruce Macdonald, Bob McKechnie, Reg. Wilson, Alan Steward-
son, Fred. Newcombe, Otto GUI,
Johnny Williams, and Murray Abernethy.
All aro excellent men, and Bhould
glvo a very good exhibition. Tickets for this meet can be obtained
from any member of the Club.
All members aro reminded that a
combined meeting ot the Women's
and Men's Clubs will be held on Wednesday, January 13, at 12 sharp, in
Room A 100. At this meeting, Mr.
Norman Cox, the University coach,
will give a special talk; and It will
be highly to the advantage of every
member to he In attendance.
— «•»—*
on the last day of exams a wrist
watch with leather strap. Finder
will please return to Clare N. Mc-
Quarrin, Arts '27, or phone Bay. 5109R.
Raymond Griffith, he of the high
silk flat and winning smile, Is tho
attraction at the Capitol this week,
in ;i rip-roaring film entitled "Hands
Up." The background of the new
comedy Ih during the Civil War period, and tlrlllltlt's adventures as a
Confederate Spy lire exceptionally
mirth-provoking, and also Illustrate
the funny Hide of war.
To mid to the laughs In this picture, it little romance Ih introduced
in which cur hero Is kept lu a feverish state of activity, making love to
two pretty girls.
An added attraction this week is
the 1!»25 Cold Medal film entitled
"The Voice of the Nightingale." This
short subject Is tho talk of the film
Industry antl you are strongly advised not to miss It.
The Weekly Symphony Conoerta
are now running every Thursday
night, antl the orchestra of fifty, conducted hy Calvin Winter, will furnish
some excellent concerts during the
winter season.
Regular prices prevail all week.
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Recruits Wanted
by Rowing Club
Final arrangements for spring
training have heen made by the
President ot the Varsity Rowing
Club. The alglit-oared shell which
has heen presented hy the University
of Washington will urrivu In Vancouver on Saturday, and tho llrst practice will be held on the afternoon of
Wednesday, January IS. The squad
will do their practising this year on
the course ot the Vancouver Rowing
Club, who havo also kindly offered
several shells for training purposes,
Duke Allen, former coach of the Toronto Argonauts and coach of the
Canadian Olympic crew, will probably take tho squad In hand. Till
further notice practices will be held
every Wednesday and Saturday afternoon. In addition to the shells a six*
teen-oared barge is boing built for
breaking In the new men.
Rowing is the sport at which, above
all others, this University should excel, and a large turnout of men who
are physically fit is requested. It
takes several years to develop a first-
class oarsman, and for that reason
freshmen especially should take this
opportunity of getting into the rowing club.
Later In the term there will be a
race against the University ot Washington eight at Seattle, and a novice
four will row at Brestwood in March,
There will be a Club regatta sometime In the spring as well, giving
those who are trying out a chance
to show their form. Students who
can qualify are asked to sign the
roster on the notice board in the
men's common room or to hand their
names to Capt. Shannon. Mounce,
Science '27, Dick Davidson, Arts '28,
or Bill Bain, this year's President, in
the Mechancial lab. The above mentioned men will be glad to answer
any questions from prospective members. A meeting will be held In
Applied Science Room 102, Tuesday
noon, January 12.
The first meeting of the Canadian
Rugby Club this year was held recently. After much discussion it was
decided that owing to the difficulty of
fielding a competent team It would
be necessary to decline the Invitation
of the Native Sons to a three-game
.series for tho Provincial Championship.
Hurry Seed, captain of the team,
then announced a general meet Ins of
•II (hose Interested in Canadian and
American KtiKhy, which will be held
today In A*?, Sc. loo, the pin pone ol
the inert InK to be the formation of an
\mericnn Rugby club. The interest
laken in the Kaine and the promise
shown by the team justifies and necessitates the formation of such a
club. Everyone, even remotely interested in the game, is requested to
attend and help set the game on its
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Lose Hard Game
Varsity first team soccer men went
down to defeat at the hands of the
fast stepping Saint Saviour squad at
Bob Brown's ash heap last Saturday
by the odd goal In three. It was anybody's game right up to the time that
Hammond beat Mosher with a tricky
shot about fifteen minutes from time,
Play started briskly wtth the blue
and gold squad forcing the exchanges.
Cameron put the students in the lead
about ten minutes from the start with
a well placed shot that beat the Saintly custodian to a frassle, Hammoud
equalised about ten minutes later, and
from then on to the Interval, end to
end play was the feature ot the game.
Upon resumption of play the green
shlrted Saints came back strong and
Mosher was called on to make some
brilliant saves. Heggie had an on
day and stopped some seemingly impossible shots, the one that beat him
wm a fluke goal, but a great effort
nevertheless, Hammond scoring from
an almost Impossible angle.
The students had a weakened team
on the Held. Both Newcombe and
Wilkinson who comprise tho Varsity
left wing did not take the field, and
Les Buckley and Jack Wilkinson were
called on to play In positions strange
to them, and the Varsity vanguard
was considerably weakened. Lorlmer
Baker would have been playing, but
according to reports, somebody else
laid claim to his services at Haney.
Who she is we don't know, but rumour
has it that she is about to become his
better half. Unfortunately, the soccer club have about six half-backs
now. The soccer club and Lorrlmer'e
admirers at Varsity send him their
congratulations any way, if they are
in order.
Bill Phillips made his first appearance on local fields when he filled
Lorlmer's shoes as Crute's sldekioker.
The Varsity half-line worked hard,
but found the Saints' sharpshooters
a hard bunch to handle. Cameron
showed up well on the right wing for
the students and Crees did some good
The loss of Wilkinson, Newcombe
and Baker at this time of the season
is a severe blow to the team, and It
is to be hoped that one or more of
them will be back on the job before
the Mainland Cup series start on January 23.
Saskatchewan Debate
(Continued from Page 1)
'•e  East  to  represent the U.B.C. In
the "away" contest.
This debate marks ihe entry of the
Cnlverslty of Flrltlsh Columbia into a
tteu   Held.    Previously, Varsity debat-
im:   teams  have Renerally Rone  forth
attains!   American  universities  of  the
■tli   I'aciflc   coast,   but   they   now
have   definitely   entered   an   all-Canadian   league.     The   U.H.C.   Is   now   in
"   I'talrle   Debating   League,   which
consisted   heretofore   of   the   Universes of Alberta,  Saskatchewan and
A series of debates with these Instill! ions will be held throughout the
year. The students of the U.B.C. are
asketl to give to the debating teams
the same support that they would furnish In other contests against these
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