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 Bookstore on Alert
UBC's Faculty Council, the main
University disciplinary body, has
recommended that if students are caught
stealing from the campus Bookstore the
matter be turned over to the RCMP.
Mr. John F.  McLean, chairman of the
Faculty-Student Advisory Committee on
the Bookstore, said that theft from the
Bookstore is "substantial" and adds to the
cost of Bookstore operations. Staff have
been alerted to keep a close watch for
suspected thieves.
Classroom Issue Aired
Old issues die hard at UBC.
One of the oldest is the question of
overcrowded classrooms and the allied questions
of what kind of institution UBC should become
and how it should allocate its scarce physical and
financial resources to accommodate a growing
student body.
The overcrowding issue got another airing at
the Senate meeting on Jan. 14. Senators had had
more than a month to muli over the classroom
issue because the question was presented as notice
of motion on Dec. 10, 1969.
The mover was student Senator Stan Persky,
who frankly told Senators he was more interested
in having them face up to the issue of
overcrowding than he was in having chapter and
verse of his motion implemented.
The motion asked that as of September, 1970,
a limit of students per class be set at 25 except in
those cases where program-, collegial-, group-, or
team-teaching took place, where the working unit
would be 120 students.
In written and oral presentations, Mr. Persky
made some provocative points. He referred to a
sort of generation gap that he said exists between
Senate and the student body.
Senate, he said, in his written presentation, can
be justly charged with having done nothing about
"that problem which so many of us experience
directly, that of overcrowded classrooms."
He added that it was like being in a country
where the populace is actually starving and the
legislature is debating whether two television sets
or three per person are needed.
Mr. Persky even had some suggestions for
implementing the motion—a reduction in the
number of courses which students take, alteration
of the proportion of funds spent on graduate
students as compared with undergraduates, and a
commitment by graduate students to teaching as
well as research and study.
The motion proved far too radical for Senate,
however, and although a number of those who
spoke in the debate supported the idea of a
discussion of the quality of campus life, it was
apparent from the start that the motion would
The first counter-argument came from another
student Senator,  R.W. Jacobs, who bluntly said
the motion couldn't be implemented because of a
shortage of classrooms and funds to build new
He said the suggested course reduction would
only mean that students would learn less than they
do at present and that the motion implied a fee
increase for implementation, thus making UBC "a
haven for the rich."
The nuts and bolts of what it would take to
implement the motion came from UBC's academic
planner, Dr. Robert M. Clark.
Assuming the motion was implemented in the
current year and there were no changes in
instruction methods, Dr. Clark said UBC would
need the following, in addition to what it already
— 3,514 undergraduate classes and 113
graduate classes;
— 9,067 hours of classroom instruction;
— 1,209 new faculty members and $16,000,000
to pay them, and
— 1,792,858 gross square feet of floor space
costing $45,465,000.
It was apparent throughout the debate,
however, that Senators felt the Persky motion had
been made in all seriousness and that some further
discussion should take place.
President Gage pointed out during the debate
that 49 per cent of UBC's current undergraduate
classes, and 58 per cent of all classes, contain
fewer than 25 students.
A suggestion that the proposal should be
referred to individual faculties and departments
for report to Senate on the resources they felt
they needed to tackle the overcrowding problem
was not seriously considered.
A possible solution came from Dr. Gideon
Rosenbluth, of the Department of Economics,
who recalled that Senate had asked the Committee
on Enrolment Policy on March 26, 1969, to
"propose minimum standards for the physical,
financial and academic standards per student
required to maintain the quality of education at
UBC, and that the proposals be accompanied by a
report explaining and justifying the figures
He suggested that the Committee on Enrolment
Policy, which Senate discharged at its meeting on
Dec. 10, 1969, be reconstituted to implement the
motion and take on the added task of determining
realistic limits for class size.
Mr. Persky, who asked the privilege of speaking
a second time before the question was called, said
he tended to agree with the suggestion that the
proposal be sent to the faculties and departments
for investigation, but added that the principle
embodied in the motion was one for the whole
University to consider.
The motion, put to a vote, failed five votes for
and 65 against.
But the end is not yet.
Mr. Persky, in making his presentation,
embodied in it another notice of motion that as of
September, 1970, the University ban classes of
more than 100 students.
Senators would have at least another month to
think about the question of overcrowded
The issue of the Americanization of Canadian
universities which has been raging across Canada for
more than a year flared up at UBC's Senate meeting
Jan. 14.
It was the first time a formal body at the
University had debated the subject, and the mood of
Senate was overwhelmingly against national barriers
to academic jobs.
The question of citizenship as a criterion for
tenure at Canadian universities was brought into the
open in December, 1968 by two Carleton University
professors, Robin Mathews and James Steele. They
cited statistics which they contended show that the
proportion of Canadians in Canada's university
faculties has been diminishing in favor of Americans
and other foreign academics.
Since then the problem has been debated in
academic corridors and newspaper columns across
Canada and has split the faculty of Canadian
universities. Mathews and Steele have attracted many
supporters. Others have attacked their position,
questioning the validity of their statistics and even
the morality of their statements.
Bringing the subject before Senate was student
Senator Peter Ladner. He moved that Senate request
the Academic Planner to find out by departments the
percentage of UBC's faculty holding Canadian
An underlying assumption of the motion, he said
is that Canadian culture is endangered. Senate should
accept the motion as one way of trying to save it.
Purpose of the motion is to find out if the faculty of
the University as a whole or of any department has a
small percentage of Canadian citizens, indicating a
low interest and knowledge in Canadian affairs, he
This doesn't imply that non-Canadian professors
should   be  penalized,   Mr.   Ladner said,  but that if
necessary some way could be found to face up to the
Please turn to Page Four
No thing to do much to be....
Under standing, we flow....
Mountains, wind, fire and rivers in motion....
Uni — verse — city ex — static! ....
All the buds unfold, first week in March at
UBC. a time of coming together ...
(Evangeline, starspirit child of suns eyes said
HV . \RE the environment
within which ....
. \nd every stranger our brother.
How can we live in touch with ourselves,
others and our environment? What
constructive alternatives can we find to
problems of pollution, food, population and
awareness? Ecology is the study of the
household. How can we waste less, make
better use of our resources.
Come see. Come share. Come help
There will be workshops, demonstrations,
lectures,   movies,   TV,  theatre,  and   lots  of
personal contact.
A new decade     a new energy
the house is all ways open,
warriors ojthe rainbow.
March 6 and 7 all faculties do projects to
inform "the public" of the state of knowledge
of our learned people
Music we arc and dancing and acts
And a child's color dream (or memories.')
Of fairytale spring sun day clew pearls on plants
And laughter and tears and freedom and play
Inside      Outside
Wc arc
The threat to the environment posed by pollution is very much in the news
at UBC these days. Last week Senate voted to have a report prepared on
what the University is doing to help solve the problem. See the story at
right. UBC's curriculum, in the meantime, is in the process of being
altered to include more and more material on pollution as the story below
will indicate. The prose poem at left by former student Udo Erasmus
and graduate David Boehm announces a symposium to be held at UBC in March.
A seemingly minor task which faces UBC's Senate
annually is the approval of new courses and changes
in courses which have been laboriously worked out
by countless faculty and departmental committees.
The paperwork which eventually reaches Senate is
formidable and forbidding.
At the meetings of Dec. 10, 1969, and Jan. 14,
1970, Senators were faced with some 100 pages —
more than half of them printed both sides — of new
courses and changes in courses submitted by UBC's
12 faculties.
Some of the material which Senate passes on is
either trivial (minor changes in course descriptions) or
incomprehensible (who, except a computer scientist,
would know what is involved in Computer Science
421, entitled "Introduction to Formal Systems,"
which includes material on "Nerve nets and finite
automata" as well as "Turing machines, compatibility
and recursive function theory.")
Even a cursory reading of the lists dealt with by
Senate at its last two meetings, however, reveals that
curricula in a wide variety of faculties and
departments are being altered radically to include the
latest "in" disciplines — ecology, environmental
control and pollution.
To these courses, which are being given primarily
at the graduate level and in professional schools, can
be added another group which deal, in a broad sense,
with contemporary social problems and political
To say that UBC has been late in responding to the
need for courses which grapple with the problems of
pollution and the environment is to ignore the fact
that until recently scientists simply did not have the
tools to deal with the 'complex and inter-related
factors which contribute to these problems.
Dr. Crawford Holling, director of UBC's Institute
of Animal Resource Ecology, points out that it is not
just people which universities have lacked in the past
to teach such courses.
He says that only in the last five years have the
computer language techniques and systems
approaches been developed which allow scientists to
look at the whole system instead of parts of it.
The factors of computer languages as well as the
development of a body of concepts dealing with the
stability of environmental systems are now being
joined together and have a great potential for training
a new type of scientists who can deal with ecological
UBC, Dr. Holling points out, is recognized
internationally, as one of the main centers in the
world for the study of ecology. He said this was to a
large extent due to the past work of Dr. Peter Larkin,
former head of Institute of Fisheries, which recently
was renamed the Institute of Animal Resource
Ecology. Dr. Larkin continues to hold the post of
professor of zoology at UBC.
Next session, the Institute will offer a course
entitled   Resource   Ecology   500 which  will  involve
students and faculty from a wide variety of UBC
departments. They will use computer simulation
techniques to study specific resource problems with
ecological, economic, demographic and social
The course is the outgrowth of an experimental
program which began in the 1968-69 session'AWn a
goal of developing a simulation model of recreational
land use in the Gulf Islands region between the Lower
Mainland of B.C. and Vancouver Island.
The model developed in this program now
simulates the consequences of land use in the Gulf
Island area from 1900 to the year 2000, changes in
prices and rate of development of various qualities of
land and the ecological impact of land development.
In the current year about 45 persons are involved
in the workshop.
The increasing number of courses in ecology is ^
perhaps    being    felt   most    in    the   Faculties   of
Agricultural Sciences and Forestry.
In the field of plant science, for instance, students
at the undergraduate and graduate level will have no
fewer than nine courses to choose from on^Ks
such as the ecology of economic insects, poliinTon
and crop production, forage ecology and
conservation, pesticides, responses of plants to air
pollution and the response of plants to environmental
Professor of Plant Science Dr. V.C. Brink said the
increasing emphasis on these topics in the department
was recognition that ecology as a science has
matured. He echoes Dr. Holling's remarks by pointing
out that the advent of new computer techniques had
made it possible for the scientist to relate a number
of factors where before only one factor at a time
could be considered.
He    also    pointed    out    that    graduates   of • '
interdisciplinary    programs,   oriented   to   the   new
techniques,  are coming  into  universities,  making  it
possible   for   the   first   time   to   offer   courses   in
environmental control.
The Faculty of Forestry will offer two new
undergraduate courses in forest and wildlife
recreation and recreation resources planning and
development. Dean Joseph Gardner said his faculty
was homing in on a number of conflict areas involving "
the use of forest land for purposes other than logging.
He said more courses in this area would be offered in
the future.
The department of civil engineering will next year
offer an elective course entitled "Built Environmental ♦
Studies" designed for fourth-year students interested
in   the   performance   of   buildings   and   groups   of
buildings as natural climate modifiers.
The course will cover such topics as user
environmental preferences, noise control and
community noise problems. Prof. William Finn, head
of the civil engineering department, described the
course as a beginning step in cooperation with UBC's
School of Architecture.
2/UBC Reports/January 22, 1970 1
All third- and fourth-year civil engineering
students will next year have to take a compulsory
seminar on the effect of science ancl technology on
the ecological, sociological and political aspects of
society. The course will include material on air, water
ground pollution, the effect on environment of large
s^^PLise of resources by primary industries as well as
genetics and the implications of biological
Dr. John Chapman, head of UBC's department of
geography, said the theme of the interaction of man
and his environment was already one of the main
themes in courses offered in his department. But, he
added, there will be even more focusing of this
problem in the department in future years.
Next year the geography department will add one
new course on the subject entitled "Trace Elements
and the Human Environment," which will deal with
physical environmental factors in human ecology
with emphasis on the role of trace elements in
G^^anmental epidemiology.
^m the field of contemporary social problems
students will have plenty of material to choose from.
New courses in anthropology and sociology include
ethnic relations (chiefly between ethnic groups in
B.C., with students carrying out elementary research
projects), peasants and the Third World, Indians of
North America and cultural ecology and cultural
A course entitled "Indians of British Columbia"
has been revised and will examine relations between
Indian and non-Indian cultures, with special reference
to current Indian situations and their anthropological
Students in political science will face hard choices
in deciding whether to take British Columbia
government and politics, Quebec government ancl
politics, selected problems in peace research, selected
problems in Canadian politics or a course on
totalitarian and authoritarian governments.
Increased relevance of these topics for students is.
only one reason for offering such courses, according
to Dr. Walter Young, head of the political science
department. More important, he said is the fact that
there is a growing body of faculty members trained in
these areas and the availability of a greater volume of
public material in the form of books and documents
for study and research.
Even the department of history is getting into the
act. A course entitled "American Cultural Impact on
Canada" has been revised and will be offered next
year simply as "The American Impact on Canada."
And in the Faculty of Education increasing
emphasis will be put on training teachers to meet the
needs of B.C. Indians. A new course entitled "Indian
Education" will examine the anthropological,
sociological and historical background of native
Indians with an emphasis on contemporary situations
_ which relate to teaching of native Indians with an
emphasis on contemporary situations which relate to
has voted to have a report prepared on
what the University is doing to help solve the problem of pollution, despite a warning from a
non-faculty member that Senate had fallen into a trap. Details of the Senate debate, which began
with a motion from student Senator Stan Persky, are given in the story below.
Despite a warning that it had fallen into a trap,
UBC's Senate has voted to have a report prepared on
what the University is doing to solve the pollution
problem and what its program is for teaching and
research in this area.
The warning that a report on pollution would have
political ramifications for Senate and the University
came from Senator Paul Plant, an appointee of the
Alumni Association Board of Management who was
elected by Senate last year as one of its three
representatives to the Board of Governors.
Mr. Plant said that Senate, in passing a motion that
was amended several times during the meeting of Jan.
14, was saying that pollution was the number one
issue before the University.
He urged the Senate to vote against the motion on
the grounds that Senate had not dealt with the
motion in terms of resolving a whole list of priority
subjects which faced the University.
Earlier in the debate he told Senate that pollution
was "a non-issue in B.C. at the present time" and it
was presumptuous for Senate to prepare a report
which would have political ramifications, not in the
area of pollution, but in terms of the role of the
Senate and UBC.
The debate on a pollution report resulted from a
notice of motion given at the Senate meeting of Dec.
10, 1969, by Senator Stanley Persky, who asked that
the report be presented to the people of B.C., that it
assess the sufficiency of the UBC program "and if we
find we are not doing enough, we will commit
ourselves to a more comprehensive program."
The motion went on to state that embodied in it
was the principle that UBC "has a positive
relationship to the community and, as an example of
such, some proportion of its resources and talent be
committed to the solution of this social problem of
The basic idea embodied in Mr. Persky's
motion—that UBC should assess what it is doing in
the field of pollution teaching and research—met with
a favourable reaction, but numerous Senators had
doubts about various facets of it.
Prof. William Finn, acting Dean of Applied
Science, cleared away some of the doubts by
suggesting an alternate wording: "That Senate,
recognizing the significant role of the University in
helping to fulfill the needs of the community, release
a report on what the University is currently doing to
solve the problem of pollution of the environment
and what its program is for continued research and
teaching in this area of national concern."
The alternate wording, accepted by both Mr.
Persky and the original motion's seconder, student
Senator Peter Ladner, provided the basis for the
subsequent debate.
Prof. A.D. Scott, of the Economics Department,
expressed concern about what he viewed as an
automatic assumption that the University exists to
serve the community, the implication being that UBC
will do whatever the community wants it to do in
terms of teaching and research.
The upshot of this argument, as well as one by
Prof. Malcolm McGregor, of the Classics Department,
that Senate has no jurisdiction to issue reports to the
public, was that Prof. Finn's motion was amended to
delete the phrase "recognizing the significant role of
the University in helping to fulfill the needs of the
The amendment was approved 58 votes to 13.
Still, Senate wasn't satisfied.
Prof. Charles Bourne, of the Faculty of Law,
proposed a further amendment which called for the
chairman of Senate—President Walter Gage—to have a
pollution report prepared for Senate, rather than for
Senate to issue a report to the public.
The amendment got overwhelming support.
It was made clear, however, that the report will in
fact become a public document once it is presented
to Senate, as do almost all Senate documents.
11 appeared that Senate had wanted to do
essentially what Mr. Persky had suggested and simply
had to find a form of words that it could agree on.
UBC Reports/January 22, 1970/3 Spending Cut Hits UBC
The crackdown on federal government spending
is creating problems for UBC's computing center.
In its January newsletter, the Computing
Center says that in an unexpected move in
October, 1969, the National Research Council
announced that direct grants to university
computing centers will be cut by 15 to 25 per cent
in 1970—71 as a result of the federal spending
At the same time, holders of NRC grants have
been told that they may pay for computing
services from their grants. This practise was
forbidden in the past since NRC made direct
grants to computing centers for the rental and
purchase of computing equipment.
UBC received just over $400,000 from NRC in
the current year for this purpose and at present
computing services are available free of charge to
approved faculty members, graduate students and
students in courses which require such services.
Dr. James Kennedy, director of the UBC
Computing Center, said the NRC announcement
has left many uncertainties which may not be
resolved until grants are announced in March.
The President's Committee on the Computing
Center, chaired by Dean of Commerce Philip
White, is currently grappling with the problems
created by the threatened shortfall of funds and
will make recommendations for policy changes.
Continued from Page One
University's apparent shortcoming in its commitment
to the community.
"Citizenship is certainly not a foolproof measure
of concern for the community, but this doesn't mean
there is no relation at all between a man's citizenship
and his commitment.
"A man who is legally tied to a country, identifies
with that country and votes for its leaders, is very
likely to have a greater commitment to and interest in
that country than a man whose legal ties are in a
foreign country," Mr. Ladner said.
If citizenship isn't a foolproof indicator, this only
means it should not be treated as such in assessing a
professor, and the University should look for
additional ways to measure his desire to serve the
community. He emphasized that citizenship is a
man's legal status in the community. It is not a
statement of his race, religion, place of birth, color or
political beliefs. Investigation of the latter would be a
violation of man's civil rights.
"Some would argue," he said, "that a man's
citizenship has no bearing on his ability as an
engineer, a dentist, a doctor, or a 'pure scientist,'
which is all the University should be interested in.
"But every scientist is also part of the community
that pays this salary and he owes that community
more than the occasional fallout from his
'academically free' research."
Similar studies into the nationality of faculty have
been or are being done by the Dominion Bureau of
Statistics, the UBC Alma Mater Society, Simon Fraser
University and the University of Victoria, he said.
The majority of faculty Senators who debated the
motion found repugnant the suggestion that
appointments should be influenced by non-academic
The assumption that Canadian academics are best
qualified to preserve the Canadian culture is false,
said Prof. C.S. Belshaw, head of the Department of
Anthropology and Sociology. Some of the greatest
contributions to the understanding of Canadian
society had been made by non-Canadian
anthropologists, he said. Without their work, there
wouldn't be much material to include in courses on
Canadian society.
Prof. Belshaw said he is a Canadian citizen, though
a recent one, who knows much less about some
aspects of Canadian life than many non-Canadians.
Another anthropologist, Dr. W.E. Willmott, said he
was in favor of increasing the Canadian content of the
curriculum but against the motion. The solution
would be to change the curriculum, not the
citizenship of the faculty.
Agreeing with both Prof. Willmott and the motion
was student Senator Miss D.J. O'Donnell. She said the
motion simply asked for information. The data could
be used by Senate in the future to frame other
motions. The Graduate Student Association's brief on
"Employment Opportunities for Graduate Students"
points out that Canadian graduate students are having
a hard time finding jobs in Canadian universities, she
said. The reason for this is that the jobs aren't
advertised in Canadian journals.
Prof. Sydney Friedman, head of the Department
of Anatomy, said there was a contradiction in the
4/UBC Reports/January 22, 1970
students' position. He had supported student
objections to candidates being asked to include a
photograph of themselves when applying for
admission to UBC, he said, because of the possibility
of discrimination in selection.
He had also supported students when they
objected to questionnaires framed in such a way as to
be discriminatory. He said he was also aware of
student concern over the tight job situation.
But how, he asked, could the students reconcile
their opposition in the previous cases to
discrimination of the grounds of race, religion and
creed with discrimination on the basis of nationality
suggested by the motion?
The University doesn't operate in an academic
vacuum, replied Mr. Ladner. It is dependent on the
community which supplies it with the vast majority
of its funds.
Prof. Friedman said that if Canadian citizenship
became a basis for academic appointments, the
taxpayers of B.C. who foot most of the bills for UBC
would be worse off than now.
B.C. enjoys the best doctor-per-capita ratio in
Canada, he said, roughly 1 to 900. But less than one
per cent of the physicians in the province were
supplied by B.C. tax funds because UBC's medical
faculty is relatively recent. The vast majority of our
doctors were trained elsewhere.
"Would you have preferred that they were not
trained by other communities with these kinds of
standards about who is paying taxes?" he asked.
Prof. Friedman said he could use the same
argument for engineers and all other professions on
which B.C. depends for its present economic status.
Prof. Gideon Rosenbluth, of the Department of
Economics said the Dominion Bureau of Statistics
was statistic-gathering organization and did not set
policy. The Office of Academic Planning, which is
being asked to gather the citizenship information,
does establish policy, he said. Any information it
gathers can only be justified with the view of
formulating some policy.
If the motion was passed. Prof. Rosenbluth said.
Senate would be on record as laying the foundation
for a policy of discrimination.
The motion was defeated.
Grad Applications
Must Be Filed
Students in their graduating year at UBC must file
"Application for Graduation" cards with the
Registrar's office not later than Feb. 16.
The cards have been mailed to all students in
fourth year Arts, Music, Science, Commerce and
fourth year elementary and fifth year secondary
Education and are available in departmental offices
for students in the graduating year of all other
The cards are also available in the Registrar's office
in the General Services Administration Building for
students who have not received them in the mail.
Registrar's office officials point out that it is the
responsibility of the student to make application for
his degree and those who do not will be omitted from
the lists put before the Faculties and Senate for
Classics Head
Holds Two
Dr. Malcolm F. McGregor, head of the University
of B.C.'s classics department, is now the president of
the two major classical organizations in North
It is thought to be the first time in the history of
the two organizations that one man has served at the|
same time as president of the Classical Association of
Canada and the American Philological Association.
Dr. McGregor was elected president of the
American Philological Association at meetings held in
San Francisco between Christmas and the new year.
He was elected president of the Canadian
organization last June at meetings of the Learned
Societies of Canada.
He will serve as president of the American
organization until the end of 1970 and as president of
the Canadian Association for two years.
The American Philological Association has 2,200
members and is the senior classical organization on
this continent. It publishes a series of research
monographs and supports major research in the fields
of ancient history and classical philology, the study j
of ancient written records, the establishment of their
authenticity and determination of their meaning.
The 600-member Classical Association of Canada
publishes a journal called Phoenix.
At the San Francisco meetings the American
Philological Association and the Archaeological
Institute of America agreed to hold their meetings in
Vancouver between Christmas and the new year in
Dr. McGregor received both his bachelor and
master of arts degree from UBC and his doctor of
philosophy degree from the University of Cincinnati,
where he was a faculty member from 1933 to 1954.
He then returned to UBC as head of the classics
department. In recent years he has served as visiting
professor of classics at Oxford and Cambridge
Universities and the University of London.
He was recently on a year's leave of absence as
visiting professor at the American School of Classical
Studies in Athens.
Dr. McGregor is internationally-known in the field
of classics for his work in the field of classical
epigraphy, the study of ancient inscriptions.
In 1954 he shared, with two other scholars, the
award of merit of the American Philological
Association for a four-volume work entitled "The
Athenian Tribute Lists," a study of the financial
records of Athens in the fifth century B.C. The study
took 20 years to complete.
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