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[Meeting minutes of the Senate of The University of British Columbia] 1955-11-09

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 Wednesday, November 9th, 1955   2216
A special meeting of the Senate of the University
of British Columbia was held on Wednesday, November 9th,
1955, at 8:00 p.m., in the Board and Senate Room, Administration Building, to discuss business connected with the
College of Education.
Present:  President N.A.M. MacKenzie (in the Chair),
Miss M. Agnew, Dr. J. Allardyce, Dean G. S. Allen, Dean G. C.
Andrew, Dean H. F. Angus, Mr. F. C. Boyes, Dr. J.J.R. Campbell,
Mr. K. P. Caple, Dean S.N.F. Chant, Dr. D. H. Copp, Miss M.
Cottingham, Dean B. A. Eagles, Miss M. M. Fallis, Dean W. H.
Gage, Mr. B. C. Gillie, Mr. H. C. Gilliland, Dr. A. E. Grauer,
Dr. W. H. Hickman, Dr, R. D. James, Dr. F. A. Kaempffer, Mr.
F. M. Knapp, Colonel H. T. Logan, Mr. E, D. MacPhee, Dean
A. W. Matthews, Dean M. D. Mawdsley, Mr, F. A. Morrison, Mr.
W. 0. Richmond, Dr. W. N. Sage, Dr. R. F. Sharp, Dr. H. V.
Warren, Dr. R, W. Wellwood, Dr. H. F, Woodhouse, Dr, A. J.
Nelson and Mr. N. Harlow.
Messages of regret for their inability to be present
were received from Chancellor Sherwood Lett, Dr. W. G. Black,
Mr. C. B. Bourne, Mr. J. M. Buchanan, Dr. I. McT. Cowan,
Dean G. F. Curtis, Dean H. C. Gunning, Major H. C. Holmes,
Mr. J. S. Keate, Dr. M. M. Maclntyre, Dr. H. R. Robertson,
Mr. F. H. Soward and Dr. C.A.H. Wright.
The President opened the meeting with an outline
of the proposal of the Minister and Department of Education
that teacher training in the province be integrated with Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2217
the University. Legislation had been passed in March, 1955,
providing for this and associating Victoria College with
teacher training.  A Joint Board of the College of Education,
with recommending and advisory powers, had been established.
Its membership includes four representatives of the University -
the Chancellor, the President, and the Dean of the College of
Education, or their nominees; and a representative of Senate.
Dean Gage, the Senate representative, is the present Chairman
of the Joint Board.
Among matters still receiving consideration are
the appointment of a Dean of the College of Education, and
the budget.
In reply to a query from the President as to the
numbers of students at the Normal Schools, Mr. Boyes stated
that the Vancouver Normal School has over 600 this year.  He
was of the opinion that next year's enrolment would be
influenced by the proposed change in fees.  Mr. Gilliland
reported an enrolment of 330 at the Victoria Normal School.
Mr. Gilliland estimated the loss of teachers through
retirement and for other reasons to be about 800 per year.
In addition, from 300 to 400 teachers per year are required
to take care of the increase in the school population.  At
least 1,200 new teachers are therefore required annually.
Dean Gage, Chairman, reported that the Joint Board
of the College of Education, at meetings on October 31st and
November 7th, had adopted the following resolutions as
recommendations to Senate: I
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■A. The length of the elementary programme:
"(1)  That a degree should be offered at the end of
a four-year elementary training programme:
(2)  That there should be a planned fifth year of
elementary training and content:  (a)  leading
to a new elementary certificate on a basis of
parity with the S.B. Certificate, and (b) fulfilling the course requirements for admission
to a programme leading to a Master's degree."
These recommendations were also referred to
the Curriculum Committee to work out the details
of the fifth-year programme.
B. The degree to be offered:
"That we recommend the adoption of the degree of
Bachelor of Education (B.Ed.) for the five-year
secondary programme as well as for the programme
for University graduates who have completed the
one-year teacher training course."
"That the degree of Bachelor of Education be also
given on completion of the four-year programme in
elementary education."
C. Credit for courses taken in the
B. C. Summer School of Education
The report of the sub-committee, as amended, was
approved.
D. Masters' degrees:
It was agreed that page 22 of the Report of the
Curriculum Committee should be withheld, until
details of the graduate programme have been worked
out and approved by the Faculty of Graduate Studies.
E. Report of the Curriculum Committee as a whole:
"That subject to the amendments adopted by this
Board, we approve the report of the Curriculum
Committee as a whole, and recommend it to Senate
on the understanding that revisions may be
necessary in particular course requirements,
numbering of courses, and other minor details."' Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2219
Dean Gage summarized the draft Calendar statement
which had been circulated to the members of Senate.  He noted
that the basic plan is a four-year course leading to a degree
in education for those who propose to specialize in elementary
school teaching, and a five-year course for those intending
to specialize in high school teaching.  These programmes were
among the recommendations approved by the Senate on August 26th,
1955.  In addition, a one-year emergency course and a two-year
programme leading to elementary teacher certification are
provided as integral parts of either the four-year or five-year
programme.  The draft also provides programmes leading to
degrees in both elementary and secondary fields for those with
Normal School, Senior Matriculation, or one or more years of
University work.
Dean Gage stated that, following full discussion
in which the representatives of the Department of Education
and the B. C. Teachers' Federation had participated, the Joint
Board recommended that for both degree courses as well as for
the present programme for graduates with Teacher Training,
the same degree should be given; i.e., Bachelor of Education,
(B.Ed.).  He pointed out that, although the courses in the
two new programmes differ in detail, their total unit value
is fairly similar:  78 units in the 5-year programme and 69
in the 4-year.  Students in the present Bachelor of Education
programme, who require approximately six years to complete
the requirements for this degree, already hold another
Bachelor's degree before obtaining the B.Ed.  In many cases Wednesday, November 9th, 195 5  2220
it would be possible for holders of the new B.Ed, degree to
qualify for the B.A. by completing a sixth year of work.
Dean Gage stressed the proposal of the Joint Board,
that following the 4-year elementary course there should be
a planned fifth year of work for which the Department of
Education would grant a higher certificate in the elementary
field, and that the work of this fifth year might be so
planned as to assist the student to proceed towards a Master's
degree in Education or to transfer to secondary teaching.
Considerable discussion ensued on the recommendation
that the degree for both new programmes should be Bachelor of
Education.
The members of Senate representing the teachers of
the province made a strong plea that the degree course for
both the elementary and secondary programmes should be the
same length, five years.  This would not only raise professional
standards, but would help to break down the cleavage between
elementary and secondary teachers.  It was pointed out that
a teacher now requires a total of five years to obtain a
degree and either elementary or secondary teacher training.
It was also important that the standard of the present
Bachelor of Education degree should not be lowered.  It Was
further pointed out that the proposed elementary degree
programme includes little opportunity for work in history,
science or languages other than English.  In view of the
difference of opinion between the Department of Education
and the B. C. Teachers* Federation, the proposal of the Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2221
Joint Board seemed a reasonably satisfactory compromise.  In
any case, a decision to award the same degree for all
programmes would facilitate the extension of the elementary
course to five years, if it should later be decided to do so.
Upon request, it was agreed that the question of
the degree for the secondary and elementary programmes should
be dealt with separately.
Dean Gage)
Dr. James)  That the degree for the secondary programme
be the Bachelor of Education, the same
degree as is offered for those who complete
the present Bachelor's programme, the
teacher training course and required
additional courses, as stated in the Calendar,
Carried.
Dean Gage )
Dean Chant)  That the degree for the completion of a
course of not less than four years in
elementary teaching be the Bachelor of
Education, and that the length of the
course be reviewed within five years after
the introduction of this programme.
Carried.
Mr. Richmond requested that the Calendar requirement
of a course in the biological sciences for students entering
teacher training with a B.A.Sc. degree should be reviewed by
the appropriate authorities.
Dean Gage stated that the hope of the Joint Board
was to receive approval in principle of the report, so that
a bulletin could be prepared for the information of
prospective students.
Dean Gage )
Dean Chant)  That the various programmes as set forth
in the report be approved in principle,
with the understanding that there may be
changes in detail and further consultations Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2222
with Departments before the programmes
are established.
Carried.
Credit for Work Taken in the
Summer School of Education
The report of the Sub-Committee on Credit for Courses
taken in the Summer School of Education as approved by the
Joint Board was received, including the following recommendations:
"1.  Work taken in the Summer School of Education prior to
1936 (which is not accepted for credit toward
certification by the Department of Education) should
not be accepted by the University.
2.  Work completed subsequent to 1936 should be accepted
subject to the following rules:
(a) Courses credited by the Department toward the
Permanent E.B. Certificate to be accepted, ipso
facto, toward the First and Second years;
(b) Courses not so used to be accepted for credit
above Second Year, subject to the following:
(c) Insofar as the programme for the degree calls for
optional courses in Education (usually 6 to 9 units),
Summer School courses will be accepted without any
attempt to equate them to courses offered by the
College;
(d) In order to be acceptable, courses in excess of
the optional units allowed by the programme, must
be comparable in content and unit value to the
prescribed course or courses in Education in the
student's programme.
(e) In the four-year elementary programme at least 18
units must be completed in the College of Education,
and in the five-year secondary programme, at least
30 units.
(f) Courses to the value of at least 3f units taken in
the Summer School of Education will be accepted as
the equivalent of 3 units for purposes of credit."
Dean Gage explained that this was in line with recommendations Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2223
approved by the Senate on May llth, 1955,
Mr, Wood, a member of the Sub-Committee, commented
on the report.
Dean Gage  )
Dean Andrew)  That these recommendations of the Joint
Board be approved.
Carried.
Pre-sessional Training Course
A recommendation was received from the Joint Board
that the requirement of a two-week period of observation prior
to the opening of the University Session in the emergency
one-year course, as previously recommended to Senate, be deleted.
It had been found upon further consideration that this proposal
would be unworkable.
It was agreed that the recommendation of the Joint
Board be approved.
Master's Degree
Dean Gage stated that the question of graduate
training for teachers was still under discussion, and tliat
no recommendations had yet been made by the Joint Board.
Dr. Sage      )
Miss Cottingham)  That the sincere thanks of Senate be
extended to Dean Gage, Dean Chant,
Mr. Wood, Dean Andrew, and Mr. MacPhee
for their work and effort, and for
this excellent report which is a real
step forward in the history of
education in the Province of British
Columbia.
Carried unanimously.
Mr. Gilliland)
Mr. Boyes   )  That formal appreciation be given to
Dr. J. R. Mcintosh for his activity in
preparation of this programme.
Carried. Wednesday, November 9th, 1955  2224
Dean Gage  )
Dean Andrew)  That a vote of thanks be extended to the
representatives of the B. C. Teachers'
Federation and to Dr, Hickman,
Carried.
Mr. Logan )
Dean Chant)  That the appreciation of Senate be conveyed
to the Department of Education for
initiating the plan and for co-operating
in the negotiations.
Carried.
Mr. Caple mentioned the importance of ensuring
financial assistance for students entering the new teacher
training programme, and was assured by Mr. MacPhee that the
matter is receiving serious consideration by the Deputy
Minister and Minister of Education.
The meeting adjourned.
Secretary.
Chairman.    /      / )

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