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[Meeting minutes of the Senate of The University of British Columbia] 1970-03-18

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Wednesday, March 18, 1970
A special meeting of the Senate of The University of British Columbia
was held on Wednesday, March 18, 1970 at 8:00 p.m. in the Board and Senate
Room, Administration Building.
Present:  President W. H. Gage (Chairman), Dr. A. E. Aho, Miss D.
Allen, Deputy President W. M. Armstrong, Dr. C. S. Belshaw, Mr. S. Black,
Mr. C B. Bourne, Mrs. A. Brearley, Dr. D. G. Brown, Dr. T. H. Brown,
Dr. S. D. Cavers, Dr. D. H. Chitty, Dr. R. M. Clark, Dean G. F. Curtis,
Dr. C. W. J. Eliot, Mr. W. A. Ferguson, Dean J. A. F. Gardner, Dr. W. C
Gibson, Dr. R. F. Gray, Dr. N. A. Hall, Dr. D. F. Hardwick, Dr. R. F.
Kelly, Dr. J. M. Kennedy, Dr. D. T. Kenny, Dr. W. D. Kitts, Mr. P. Ladner,
Mrs. W. T. Lane, Mrs. J. MacD. Lecky, Miss E. K. McCann, Dr. M. F.
McGregor, Mr. J. R. Meredith, Dr. J. M. Norris, Mr. P. Plant, Dean B. E.
Riedel, Dr. G. Rosenbluth, Dr. R. F. Scagel, Dean N. V. Scarfe, Dr. A. D.
Scott, Dean M. Shaw, Dr. J. H. G. Smith, Dr. J. K. Stager, Mr. B.
Stuart-Stubbs, Dr. H. V. warren, Dean P. H. White, Mr. D. R. Williams,
Dr. W. E. Willmott, Mr. E. Wood.
Observers: Mr. J. A. Banham, Miss D. Hopper, Mr. T. A. Myers,
Mr. P. Thompson.
Messages of regret for their inability to attend were received from
Chancellor A. M. McGavin, Mr. D. M. Brousson, Mr. F. J. Cairnie, Dr. J. D.
Chapman, Dr. M. F. Clarke, Dean W. D. Finn, The Hon. E. D. Fulton,
Mr. I. F. Greenwood, Mr. J. Guthrie, Dr. S. Israels, Dean S. W. Leung,
Dean Helen McCrae, Dean J. F. McCreary, Dr. B. N. Moyls, Mr. J. V.
Rogers, Dr. I. Ross, Dr. G. M. Volkoff, Dr. W. A. Webber, Dr. W. D. Young.
The special meeting was held for further discussion of recommendations
in the Long-Range Objectives Committee Report.
Dean Scarfe      ) That thz meeting bz adjourned no latzr
Dr.  McGregor    ) than 10:00 p.m.
The first item for discussion on the Agenda was Recommendation 27,
sections (i), (ii), (iii) and (iv).  It was agreed that section (i)
should be deferred until the points referred to in paragraph 42 of the 5227
Wednesday, March 18, 1970
report had been dealt with.  It was suggested that section (iv) should be
dealt with first, then sections (ii) and (iii).
Recommendation 27 (iv)
In introducing section (iv) of Recommendation 27, Dr. Clark stated
that it would require Faculties, Departments and Schools to plan ahead
more effectively than ever before.  He stated that an institution as
large as U.B.C. could offer sufficient programmes to create a more
interesting and useful environment.
Dr.  Clark      ) That thz present type oh structure oh
Dr. Norris    ) Faculties, dzpartmznts and Schools bz
retained with modihications to make the
system more responsive to changing
conditions, without the adoption in
principle oh a Federated College system.
Dr. Belshaw referred to the minority recommendation which supported
the Federated College system.  He said certain criticisms had been
raised in connection with this proposal, namely cost and administrative
There was no further discussion of the motion which was put and
Recommendation 27 (ii)
Dr. Clark  )      That an ad hoc committee oh Senate bz
Dr. Norris )      crzotzd to consider and rzcommznd possible
changes in thz groupings oh Faculties,
Schools and departments.
It was explained that such a committee would look at the campus to
see if it had the most appropriate division among Faculties, Schools
and Departments. The form of grouping would be a matter for the
committee to work out.
The motion was put and carried. 5228
Wednesday, March 18, 1970
Recommendation 27 (iii)
Dr. Clark  )      That the size oh this committzz should
Dr. Norris )      be de-teAmined by thz President.    The
Senate should elect halh the committee
by mail ballot, and ahter this election
the President should appoint hiom Senate
the remainder oh the Committee, including
the Chairman.
The Chairman queried whether all the members of this Committee
should be members of Senate.  Dr. Clark stated that this was the
In amendment:
Dean Curtis    ) That the second szntzncz should read
Dr.   Clark        ) "Thz Senate should hiom its members
elect halh the committee by mail
ballot "
The motion as amended was put and carried.
Recommendation  18
Dr. Belshaw    ) That an orientation collzgz bz crzatzd
Dr. Norris      ) in Arts and Science disciplines to assist
students in the hint two years oh
university work to choose their programmes
hor subsequent years.
It was explained that the orientation college was intended to be
an organization within the present structure of the University.  In
reply to a query it was stated that the college would have its own
Dean or equivalent and if this was approved by Senate it would be a
directive in essence to the administrative parties of the University
to do something about it. However, the location, physical and staffing
implications would require study.
Some Senate members felt that the primary objective of the college
was not too clear.  It appeared that it would be designed for students 5229
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Recommendation 18 (Continued)
who were unsure of themselves as to where they were headed academically
and were not too sure of a proposed programme.  It was felt that Senate
should be sure it was meeting a really genuine student need.
It was suggested that this recommendation really stated that there
was a need for specially designed courses for freshmen and if this were
true the Faculties of Arts and Science were quite capable of designing
courses to meet the needs of these people.
Dr. Eliot  )      That thz recommendation "That an
Mrs. Lecky )      orientation college be created . .."
bz reherred to a joint committee oh
the Facultizs oh Arts and Scizncz
hor study tizrz.
It was explained that if such a joint committee decided there were
grounds for recommending the formation of an orientation college this
committee should plan its form.
The motion to refer Recommendation 18 to a joint committee was put
and carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
Chairman iyA^T
Confirmed. /T


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