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 Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3169
The second regular meeting of the Senate of the
University of British Columbia for the Session 1962-63 was
held on Wednesday, October 17, 1962, at 8:00 p.m., in the
Board and Senate Room, Administration Building.
Present:  President J.B. Macdonald (in the Chair),
Mrs. H. F. Angus, Mr. W. M. Armstrong, Rev. J. Blewett,
Mrs. T. R. Boggs, Mr. F. L. Burnham, Dean S.N.F. Chant,
Mr. M. Collins, Dr. I. McT. Cowan, Dean G. F. Curtis,
Mr. A. P. Dawe, Dean B. A. Eagles, Dr. G. R. Elliott,
Mr. C. A. Emery, Dean W. H. Gage, Rev. E. Garvey, Dr. W, C.
Gibson, Mr. C. C Gourlay, Dr. W. H. Hickman, Dr. R. D.
James, Dr. F. H. Johnson, Dr. J.E.A. Kania, Mr. J. S. Keate,
Dr. J. L. Keays, Mr. F. M. Knapp, Mr. L. J. Ladner,
Mr. S. L. Lipson, Dean H. McCrae, Dean J. F. McCreary,
Dr. J. R. Mcintosh, Dr. M. M. Maclntyre, Dr. A. D. McKenzie,
Dr. H. McLennan, Dean A. W. Matthews, Dean D. M. Myers,
Mr. N. T. Nemetz, Mr. E. P. Nicol, Mr. H. N. Parrott,
Dean G. N. Perry, Dr. W. Robbins, Mr. J. V. Rogers,
Dr. W. N. Sage, Dean N. V. Scarfe, Dr. R. F. Sharp, Dean
F. H. Soward, Rev. W. S. Taylor, Mr. E.C.E. Todd,
The Honourable Mr. Justice D. R. Verchere, Dr. R. W. Wellwood,
Dr. J. K. Friesen, Mr. J. F. McLean and Dr. J. Ranz.
Messages of regret for their inability to toe
present were received from Dr. J. C Berry, Mr. K. P. Caple,
Mr. G. C. Hacker, Major H. C Holmes, Mr. W. Ireland,
Dean E. D. MacPhee, Mr. D. F. Miller, Mr. F. A. Morrison, Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3170
Dr. A. J. Renney, Dr. G. M. Volkoff, Mr. A. A. Webster,
Dean T. G. Wright and Dr. S. H. Ztoarsky.
Appointment of Representative
of Faculty of Law
The Faculty of Law had appointed Dr. M. M.
Maclntyre as one of its representatives on Senate, to
complete the term of Mr. A.W.R. Carrothers who was on leave
of absence.
Minutes of the Previous
Dr. Kania )
Mr. Nemetz) That the minutes of the first
regular meeting of Senate for the
Session 1962-63,  having toeen
circulated,  toe taken as read and
Format of the Agenda
The President called attention to the new format
of the agenda, listing a numtoer of items under the heading
"Recommendations from the Senate Executive Committee".
Details on most of these items had toeen circulated prior to
the meeting; on the others, lists were distributed at the
meeting.  In so far as possible, matters which were
regularly recommended or reported to Senate would toe (as
in the past) circulated prior to the meeting, tout in future
they would also have been discussed toy the Senate Executive
Committee, and the recommendations of that Committee would
accompany the agenda for the meeting. H
Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3171
Memtoers of Senate were urged to study the
material provided and to be prepared to comment or ask
questions about it, in order to keep to a minimum the time
spent in discussion of recurring items.
Recommendations from the
Senate Executive Committee
In line with this procedure, the following
recommendations of the Senate Executive Committee were
1.  Senate Committees
That the report of the President on membership
of Senate committees, and Senate representatives
on other committees or bodies, be received.
Apart from Senate committees which were being
retained, the following former Senate committees were
being discharged:
Senate Committee on Academic Organization of the
University (functions transferred to the Committee of
Academic Deans)
Senate Committee on Examinations, B. C. Institute of
Agrologists (functions transferred to the jurisdiction
of the Dean of Agriculture)
Senate Committee to Consider the Colour of Hoods for New
Degrees (functions transferred to the jurisdiction of
the officer in charge of University Ceremonies)
Senate Committee on a Proposed Faculty of Dentistry
.Senate Committee on English-language Problems of
Foreign Students
Senate Examinations Committee
Senate Committee on Military Education
Senate Press Committee
Senate Consultant Committee on Student Adjustment
Senate Committee on Suggestions for University Reports
University Committee on Public Relations, which included
Senate representatives
University Committee on Fraternities and Sororities,
which included Senate representatives. Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3172
The terms of reference of the Committee on
Professors Emeriti were being expanded as agreed toy Senate
at the previous meeting. The Senate Committee on
Affiliation of Other Institutions was toeing suspended.
The President commented particularly on the
Library Committee, which in the past had consisted of three
representatives from the Faculty of Arts and Science, one
from each of the other Faculties, three nominees of the
Chairman of Senate, and the Librarian. While the Librarian
would continue to meet from time to time with representatives
of each Faculty and of the larger Departments, the President
felt a smaller formal Library Committee would be able to
function more effectively.  He had therefore proposed the
following membership:
Dr. I. McT. Cowan (Chairman)
Dr. S. Rothstein
Dr. M. F. McGregor
Dean D. M. Myers
Dean G. N. Perry
Dean S. W. Leung
The Librarian (ex-officio).
2. Candidates for Degrees and Diplomas
That the lists as circulated of candidates
presented toy the Faculties for degrees and
diplomas toe approved.
3. Notification of the Granting
of Faculty Status
That the reports from the Faculties of
Agriculture, Applied Science, and Pharmacy,
of the granting of Faculty status to certain
memtoers of the teaching staff for 1962-63,
be received. Wednesday, Octotoer 17, 1962      3173
Agriculture    - Dr. C. W. Rotoerts
Applied Science - Mrs. A. M. Armstrong
Dr. A.CD. Chaklader
Mr. J. F. Glennie
Dr. I. H. Warren
Pharmacy       - Mr. M. Mezei.
4.  Prizes. Scholarships and Bursaries
That the following new awards, titles of
which were circulated, toe approved
according to the terms indicated, and
that the lists of awards to students,
Nos. 4 and 5, 1962-63, toe received.
NOCA Forage Graduate Scholarship
The Shuswap-Okanagan Dairy Industries Co-Operative
Association offers a scholarship of $800.00 to a
graduate student in Plant Science for study in
the field of forage production. An additional
amount of $200.00 for travel and other expenses
associated with the research work carried out toy
the student will toe granted to the Division of
Plant Science, Faculty of Agriculture.  The
recipient of the scholarship will be selected on
the basis of academic standing and promise of
ability in research.  The topic of research will
be chosen after consultation with the project
committee of the Association.
The Percy W. Nelms Book Prize
This prize, a memorial to Percy W. Nelms who,
in August, 1961, lost his life while engaged
in construction work in Northern British Columtoia
prior to entering the University of British
Columtoia as an undergraduate, has been established
by his brother and sister-in-law, Dr. and Mrs.
G. LeRoy Nelms, and his relations and friends.
The prize will toe awarded annually to a student
resident in British Columtoia, North of the Peace
River, who is entering the University for the
first time. The winner will toe selected toy the
University on the basis of academic ability,
promise and personal qualities. .
Wednesday, Octotoer 17, 1962      3174
The Lady May Cambridge Chapter. I.O.D.E..
Bursary in Teacher Training
A toursary of $100.00, the gift of the Lady May
Camtoridge Chapter, I.O.D.E., was offered to
students in the final year of the teacher
training course in the Session 1962-63.  The
award was open to daughters of veterans.
The Eileen R. Gillev Soroptimist Award
in Music
A scholarship of $100.00,   the gift  of the
Soroptimist Club of New Westminster,  was offered
in the Session 1962-63 to  students resident
within the territorial  limits of the Club.
It  was  open to  students  entering Music for the
first  time and majoring in Piano.
Margaret Delmage Award
The British Columbia Parent-Teacher Federation
offers annually the sum of $200.00 to a son or
daughter of a native Indian of British Columbia
who is entering the University of British
Columbia, or some College of recognized standing
within the province, from Grade XII or Grade XIII,
or is proceeding from Grade XII to Grade XIII,
and who shows promise of success in continuing
studies at the university level. This award is
known as the Margaret Delmage Award and is
* presented in honour of Mrs. Margaret Delmage as
a tribute to her outstanding contribution to
parent-teacher work in British Columbia.
Pan-Abode (1951) Ltd. Scholarship - change of
title to Pan-Abode Buildings Ltd. Scholarship.
5. Report on University Extension.
That the Report of the Department of
University Extension for 1961-62 toe
6. Report of the Director of
Summer Session. 1962
That the report of the Director of Summer
Session for 1962 toe received. Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3175
The Executive Committee had noted an increase
over the past five years in the proportion of students
other than teachers attending the Summer Session.
7. Report on Registration.
Winter Session. 1962-63
That the report on registration be received.
8. Senate Elections. 1963
That a committee be struck to decide the
date for Senate elections in 1963, to
appoint scrutineers, and to authorize
other necessary arrangements; the committee
membership to be:
Dean B. A. Eagles
Mr. E.C.E. Todd
Dr. G. M. Volkoff
Dr. R. W. Wellwood
The Secretary to Senate (ex-officio).
9. New Courses
That the new courses presented by the
Faculties of Arts and Science, and Law,
for the Session 1962-63, be approved.
Arts and Science: Zoology 404(3) - Comparative Ethology
Law:  Law 312 (two hours per week). - Estate Taxation.
To be offered in Third Year in the second term, as
an option to the course in Income Taxation.
Dean Gage )
Dean Chant) That the recommendations of the
► ". Senate Executive Committee, as
presented, be approved.
Dr. Gibson)
Mr. Todd ) That the recommendations of the
Senate Executive Committee be
amended to include a representative
of each Faculty of the University
on the Library Committee.
The original Gage-Chant motion was then Carried.
»• Wednesday, Octotoer 17, 1962      3176
Victoria College Council
A list of Victoria College candidates for degrees
to toe conferred at the Octotoer, 1962, Congregation at the
University, had toeen circulated. This group had been
included among the candidates for degrees approved in the
previous motion.
For information of Senate, Dr. Hickman also
provided a report on registration at Victoria College for
1962-63, indicating a total of 1845 as compared to 1741
in 1961-62.
Proposals for Changes in
Requirements for Admission
to the University
Proposals from Dean Gage and the Registrar with
respect to changes in requirements for admission to the
University had been circulated prior to the meeting.
The President read a two-paragraph editorial from
a September, 1962, issue of Science on University admission
policies, indicating that in general exclusion policy was
giving way to selection, with the realization that access
to higher education also determined entrance to the
professions and many positions of leadership, affecting the
nation's future.
Dean Gage drew attention to the three proposals
in the report:
1.    That,   for admission from Grade XII to  the
University in September,   1963,   students   (in
addition to meeting the current  standards)
toe required to have  a  specified minimum 2.
Wednesday, Octotoer 17, 1962      3177
overall average in the combination of their
three required majors and compulsory English
(English Language 40 and English Literature 40).
That the minimum overall "English and Major"
average referred to in (l) toe 60$, with the
possible modification, should Senate deem it
advisatole, that the minimum overall average
be 55$ for admission in September, 1963,
and 60$ thereafter.
3. That for September, 1963, no changes be made
in the admission requirements for students
from Grade XIII.  It is recommended, however,
that the Department of Education and schools
be advised that in the near future, probably
commencing with the Session 1964-65, higher
entrance standards from Grade XIII may be
Accompanying notes recommended that a study
should be undertaken at once of the admission requirements
for students from Grade XIII; that discussions should be
held with the Department of Education with a view to making
a clearer distinction between High School Graduation
(University Programme) and completion of U.B.C. Entrance
requirements; and that the Deans and Faculties should be
urged to give careful study to failure rates, particularly
in First Year University.
Dean Gage stated that it appeared that many First
Year students were deriving very little benefit from
University attendance, or were even acquiring a poor academic
record that might never be fully overcome. He felt the time
had come to make it clear that the University was not an
all-purpose institution for all types of post-high-school
education. The proposals were designed to exclude from the
First Year such students as experience had shown might not Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3178
be capable of completing successfully the work of that
year, but any of these students who improved their
qualifications by further study would be admitted to the
University on reaching the standard stipulated.
Dean Gage reminded Senate that in February, 1959,
the Faculty of Arts and Science had recommended that the
minimum academic qualification for admission to the
University should be raised to "at least *C standing (58$)
in each subject presented for University Entrance".  Senate
had asked that the implications of this proposal should be
discussed with the Board of Examiners of the Department of
Education. This Board had concluded that "the objectives
of the proposal would be better realized through appropriate
raising of failure rates".  In accepting the recommendation
of the Board of Examiners (in February, 1960), the Senate
had agreed that the effect of the raise in failure rates
should be reported to it for possible re-examination at a
later date.
Problems arising from this approach were the
difficulties experienced by veteran teachers in accredited
schools in adjusting to a higher standard of requirements,
and the simultaneous exclusion of students from High School
Graduation along with University Entrance.
Speaking in support of the recommendations in
principle, Dr. Sharp pointed out some of the possible
undesirable consequences. He felt that continued increase Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3179
in entrance requirements would exclude some potential
leaders who, through inadequate instruction in elementary
and high schools, were unable to achieve a high standard
in University Entrance examinations.
Dr. Sharp stated that the report by Mr. Shirran
on student academic performance, which had been under
consideration by Senate since the meeting in May, 1962,
indicated some of the hazards facing the student in First
Year University: variation in quality of instruction from
one course to another, and from one section of a given
course to another; fluctuation in percentage of failures
in any given subject from one year to another. Dr. Sharp
felt that the Shirran report implied that one of the weakest
points in the evaluation of students in the present
educational system from Grade I to University graduation
might be in First Year University.
Dr. Sharp urged that, if the President asked the
Deans to study failure rates in First Year University, the
Senate should give its strongest support to the Deans.
"Academic freedom " which might be claimed by Faculty
members should be accompanied by responsibility, resulting
in fair, just and consistent treatment of students.
Mr. Nemetz pointed out that future teachers were
inevitably drawn from those obtaining higher education; in
the long run, ensuring that poorly qualified students were
excluded from the University should result in general Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3180
improvement in educational standards. A uniform entrance
examination for all students would eliminate the present
advantage enjoyed by students in accredited high schools
who were not recommended but who, by reason of superior
teaching, achieved success in the Government examinations
in contrast to students from those non-accredited high
schools in which the calibre of teaching was lower.  He
understood that McGill and Toronto Universities were in
process of instituting entrance examinations modified from
that of the American College Board.
With reference to the potentially able students
who do not reach the University, Mr. Nemetz pointed out that
there were at least two reasons for this: inferior teaching
in the high school which resulted in students unqualified
for University; and lack of funds.  He felt this emphasized
the need for the establishment of regional colleges providing
a variety of types of training beyond the high school level.
At the same time, he suggested that attempts should toe made
to obtain further scholarship assistance for University
Mr. Parrott commented that the British Columbia
Teachers' Federation was encouraging the teaching group as
a whole to strive for higher qualification.  However, when
no properly qualified teacher was available to fill an
existing position, the Minister of Education had authority
to issue a letter of permit to an individual without formal Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3181
qualifications.  In many cases, teachers well qualified in
certain subjects were required to teach other subjects for
which specialists were not available.  Increase in the
number of Senior Matriculation classes in British Columbia
would draw the better qualified teachers from the lower
years in the high schools.
Mr. Collins called for further examination of the
reasons for restricting admission to the University before
the means of so doing were determined.
Mr. Dawe reported that in the state of California,
the upper twelve percent of student s passing examinations
for college entrance might attend the University of
California.  Of the others who qualified for college
entrance, the upper one-third were admitted to state
colleges; the remaining two-thirds to community colleges.
He believed no action should be taken on the proposals under
discussion until British Columbia was able to accommodate
in one or another institution of higher education all
students passing University Entrance.
While expressing himself generally in favour of
the proposals, Dr. Hickman stated he would like an
opportunity to study their effect on Victoria College,
which had certain special features - no Grade XIII in the
area, relatively low failure rate which might toe attributed
to the fact that students were drawn from a metropolitan Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3182
area, and the dependence of Victoria College on high
enrolment in First Year to assist in financing the more
expensive work of the upper years. Victoria College would
not want to be considered an institution accepting students
unacceptable to the University of British Columbia in Point
Dr. Keays reminded Senate that the percentage of
young people in British Columbia attending university was
already far below that in the United States; restricting
enrolment would further reduce the number receiving higher
It was finally moved
Dr. Sharp  )
Dean Soward) That the question of a change in
requirements for admission to the
University be tabled until the
next meeting of Senate.
Architecture versus Architects
The President had invited Mr. Henry Elder,
Director of the School of Architecture, to speak to Senate
on architectural education under the title of "Architecture
versus Archit ect s".
Mr. Elder quoted the definition of architecture in
Webster's dictionary as "the art or science of building".
There was, however, a fundamental difference between
architecture and building, in that the builder was asked to
supply the wants of his client, whereas the architect was Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3183
charged with stating the needs of the client in terms of
building. History had shown that civilizations were born,
grew, flowered, then died.  The architect developed the
style to its flowering baroque stage and attempted to delay
its death.
Mr. Elder stated that, as had happened before,
the professional architect was dying, as evidenced by his
attempts to satisfy the wants rather than the needs of man.
Mr. Elder felt architectural education was at fault.  Prior
to the Reformation, work was done by slaves. Following the
Reformation, and particularly in the Industrial Revolution,
work began to be recognized as acceptable for professional
men. Architectural apprenticeship was replaced by architectural schools which in Europe were accommodated in
building schools, schools of art, or technical colleges,
but in the United States of America and Canada were accepted
into the universities.
Architecture became more and more technological;
its artistic merit was held in question.  The struggle for
the existence of the architect began, and the professional
architects looked to the Schools to provide competent
assistants; the profession increased its demands; a system
of protection came about - registering the architect to
protect him; licensing the architect to protect the public;
offering degrees in Architecture to protect education. The
profession blamed the schools for its decline, and the
schools responded toy increasing training, particularly of a
technical nature. Wednesday, Octotoer 17, 1962      3184
Mr. Elder expressed his delight that the
University of British Columtoia, in the face of demand for
architectural training that would require some twenty to
twenty-five years, had reduced its training programme to
three years closely following a three-year programme in the
humanities. He felt this, for the first time, had brought
architecture within the auspices of a University rather
than a technical school. The last year of the humanities
programme included an introduction to creative work applied
to all the arts, to provide the student with some understanding of his field.
The University of British Columbia was the logical
point for setting a new pattern in education since its
School of Architecture was relatively small, permitting
individual attention; since Vancouver, isolated by the
Rocky Mountains from eastern Canada and separated from the
United States, was the meeting ground between the Occident
and the Orient (to which the present western civilization
was looking for new methods of thinking); and since
cultural exchange in architecture had always been most
vigorous by ocean.
Mr. Elder had one further objective: research, as
the search for understanding in architectural terms. This
he felt necessary to meet a doubling in building in Canada
in the next forty years. The University had signified its
interest by erecting a building for Architecture; the
Faculty was enthusiastic about the development of a 1
Wednesday, October 17, 1962      3185
Vancouver School of Architecture as a means of fulfilling
its obligation to the University of British Columtoia and to
Canada as a whole.
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.


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