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 6068.
Monday, February 4, 1974.
A special meeting of the Senate of The University of British Columbia
was held on Monday, February 4, 1974 at 8.00 p.m. in the Board and Senate
Room, Administration Building, to continue the discussion on the report of
the Senate Ad Hoc Committee on the Universities Act.
Present:    PresidentW. H. Gage (Chairman), Mrs. M. F. Angus,
Dr. L. L. Bongie, Dr. C. B. Bourne, Mr. G. B. Burns, Dr. S. D. Cavers,
Dr. R. M. Clark, Dr. R. Daniells, Dr. C. G. David, Dr. J. D. Dennison,
Dr. N. Epstein, Mrs. F. Field, Dr. C. V. Finnegan, Dr. J. G. Foulks,
Dr. S. M. Friedman, Acting Dean C. C. Gourlay, Dr. R. F. Gray, Mr. A. J.
Hilliker, Dr. B. Howard, Miss W. J. Hudson, Mr. P. A. Insley, Dr. F. R. C.
Johnstone, Dr. L. Kraintz, Dr. R. V. Kubicek, Mrs. W. T. Lane, Mrs. J. MacD,
Lecky, Dean A. J. McClean, Dr. R. E. McConnell, Dr. M. F. McGregor,
Dr. D. J. MacDougall, Mr. A. M. Moore, Mr. R. F. Osborne, Dean B. E.
Riedel, Mr. S. J. Robinson, Dr.  I. S. Ross, Ms. J. Searcy, Dean M. Shaw,
Ms. S. H. M. Smaill, Mr. A. M. Smolensky, Mrs. H. W. Sonthoff, Dr. J. K.
Stager, Dr. J. R. Stein, Dr. K. S. Stockholder, Dean G. M. Volkoff, Mr. F. C.
Walden, Dr. W. A. Webber, Dr. R. L. White.
Observers:   Dr. J. P. Blaney, Mr. T. A. Myers, Dr. A. D. Scott.
Messages of regret for their inability to attend were received from
Chancellor N. T. Nemetz, Dean J. H. M. Andrews, Deputy PresidentW. M.
Armstrong, Dr. C. A. Brockley, Mr. C. McK. Campbell, Dean I. McT. Cowan,
Rev. R. W. Finn, Dean W. D. Finn, The Hon. E. D. Fulton, Dean J.A. F.
Gardner, Dr. W. C. Gibson, Mr.  I. F. Greenwood, Mr. J. Guthrie, Dr. D. F.
Hardwick, Dr. J.M. Kennedy, Dean S. W. Leung, Mr. A. J. Longmore,
Dr. C. A. McDowell, Rev. J. P. Martin, Dr. J. M. Norris, Mr. P. W. Park,
Miss E. B. Paul, Mr. P. S. Plant, Mr. G. A. Thorn, Dr. M. Uprichard. 6069.
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At the January 9, 1974 special meeting a recommendation for a
multicameral system of internal government was approved.   (P.6018)   A
proposal by Dr. A. D. Scott for a three-chambered system of university
government had been circulated.   It was stated in Section 1 of the proposal
that Senate could not adequately perform its function if it were also to
perform the role of providing representation to three main groups:   the
community, the students, and faculty members.   Some elements of the
proposal were as follows:-
1. There would be three chambers - A, B, and C.
2. Chamber A would be roughly the same as the present or proposed
Board of Governors.
3. The membership of Chamber A could be as at present or as
recommended by the Committee on the Universities Act.   However,
the mix would tend to favour the "Community".
4. Chamber B and C would each have all the powers of the present
Senate, including the power to initiate motions and the power to
set or change their own agenda.
5. Chambers B and C would be distinguished from each other not on
the basis of the functions they were allowed to perform, or on the
basis of their powers, but on the mix of their memberships.
6. Chamber B would have chiefly a faculty membership although
there would also be members of the other two groups in the mix.
Chamber C would have chiefly a non-faculty membership although
faculty members, and Deans, would be present and indeed would
be necessary to assist the discussion.
7. While both Chambers B and C would be free to deal in any way
they saw fit with all questions coming before them, they would
settle down to concentrating both on different questions and on
different aspects of questions which both thought were important. 6070.
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Chamber B would probably specialize on questions having to do
with size, quality, and distribution of effort within the University.   It
would be particularly interested in:   coordination of academic proposals;
the academic scrutiny of existing and proposed courses and programs;
the academic standard of teaching;  the standards of research; and the
creation of an environment in which creditable teaching and research
are carried on.
Chamber C would also be concerned with the above questions and
would be free and encouraged to deal with them as it saw fit.   However,
much of its time would probably be given to the following matters:
admissions; appeals on academic standing; transfer credits; and
relations generally with other universities, colleges and with the
school system; adult education and continuing education; the welfare of
part-time students; constitutional matters; the relations of professional
schools and of the departments generally with the professions for
which they are providing recruits and with the manpower situation
generally; the role of The University of British Columbia in changing
circumstances.
Dr. Friedman )
Dr. Moore )
That the Committee on the Universities
Act be requested to suggest a system in
which the membership of Senate would
be divided into two groups.
Following a lengthy debate the motion was lost.
Recommendation  10
Dean McClean  )
Dr. Clark )
That the membership of Senate be as follows:
a) the Chancellor, the President, the
Deans, the Director of the Centre for
Continuing Education and the Librarian,
to be ex-officio members of Senate
b) community representatives not greater
in number than the number of ex-officio
members
c)  students in a number equal to the
number of ex-officio members 6071.
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Recommendation  10    (continued)
d) members of faculty in a number equal
to three times the number of ex-officio
members
e) such other employees of the University
as may from time to time be determined
by the Senate, who in the opinion of
Senate are by virtue of their occupation
at the University performing an academic
function
f) one member to be elected by the
governing body of each affiliated
college.
Dean McClean explained that each of the categories of membership
set out in Recommendation 10 were also set out in separate recommendations
i.e. 10a was covered by Recommendation 11;  10b by Recommendation 12;   10c
by Recommendation 13;   10d by Recommendation 14;  10e by Recommendation 15;
and 10f by Recommendation 16.   He also stated that if Recommendation 10
were approved then by implication Recommendation 17 would also be approved.
Recommendation  11
That the ex-officio members of Senate be as follows:
1) the Chancellor
2) the President
3) the Deans
4) the Director of the Centre for Continuing Education
5) the Librarian
In amendment:
Dr. Epstein      ) That the Deans be deleted from the list of
Mr. Robinson   ) ex-officio members of Senate.
Lost 6072.
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Recommendation  13
That there should be on Senate one student from each of the faculties,
plus such other number of students as will ensure that the total number
of student members is equal to the number of ex-officio members of
Senate.
Recommendation  14
That there shall be on Senate a number of elected members of faculty
three times the number of the ex-officio members, each faculty to
elect from its members one of these members, and the remainder to
be elected by the faculties either in joint meeting or in such manner
as the faculties in joint meeting may by regulation determine.
In amendment:
Mr. Smolensky   ) That Recommendation 13 be amended to
Mr. Burns ) read:-
"That there be on Senate one student from
each of the faculties plus such other number
of students as will ensure that the total
number of students equals twice the number
of ex-officio members of Senate. "
and, that Recommendation 14 be amended
to read: -
"That there shall be on Senate a number of
elected members of faculty twice the number
of the ex-officio members ...  ".
The amendment to Recommendation 13 and 14 was lost.
In amendment:
Mr. Robinson   ) That Recommendation 14 be amended to
Mr. Insley        ) read:-
"That there shall be on Senate a number of
elected members of faculty twice the number
of ex-officio members ...  ". 6073.
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Recommendation  14   (continued)
The amendment to Recommendation 14 was lost.
Recommendation  15
That Senate may add to its membership such other employees of the
University as Senate may determine from time to time who in the
opinion of Senate are by virtue of their occupation at the University
performing an academic function.
In amendment:
Dr. Epstein ) That the words "performing an academic
Mr. Burns    ) function" be deleted from Recommendation 15.
The amendment to Recommendation 15 was lost.
Recommendation  16
That there shall be included in the membership of Senate one member
elected by the governing body of each affiliated college of the University.
In amendment:
Mr. Moore )        That Recommendation 16 be amended to
Mr. Smolensky   )        read:-
"One member to be elected from all the
affiliated colleges. "
The amendment to Recommendation 16 was lost.
Dr. Epstein  ) That Recommendation 16 be referred back
Mr. Insley    ) to the Committee on the Universities Act
for further consideration.
The motion to refer was lost.
The motion to approve Recommendation 10a, e and f as outlined in
Recommendations 11,  15 and 16 was put and carried. 6074.
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Recommendation  12
That there be on Senate a number of community representatives not
greater in number than the total number ex-officio members, and
that the categories of community membership be determined as follows:-
1) four members appointed by the Lieutenant-Governor-in-Council,
only one of whom shall be an official of the Department of Education
2) three members appointed by the Board of Management of the A lumni
Association of the University
3) not less than six, not more than the number which would make
the total number of community representatives equal to the number
of ex-officio members, the number beyond six to be determined
from time to time by Senate, nominated by members of convocation
and elected by convocation, who shall not be members of the
faculty at the University.
In amendment:
Mr. Smolensky )
Mr. Robinson    )
In amendment:
Mr. Robinson   )
Ms. Smaill )
That item 2) concerning the appointment
of three members by the Board of
Management of the Alumni Association of
the University be deleted.
Lost
That item 2) be amended to read:-
"Three graduates of The University of
British Columbia appointed by the Board
of Management of the Alumni Association
of the University. "
Lost
In amendment:
Dr. Cavers     )
Mr. Hilliker   )
That item 3) be amended to read:-
"Not less than six, not more than the number
which would make the total number of
community representatives equal to the
number of ex-officio members, the number
beyond six to be determined from time to
time by Senate, nominated by members of
convocation and elected by convocation,
who shall not be members of the full-time
faculty or full-time students at the University. " 6075.
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Recommendation  12   (continued)
The amendment to item 3) of Recommendation 12 was put and carried.
The motion to approve Recommendation 12 with the amendment to
item 3) was put and carried.
The meeting adjourned at 10.15 p.m.
Secretary
Confirmed,
Chairman