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 That Magazine from CITR
FM102
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NOV 1987
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& THE
CABARET
Wed. 4
THE ROUGH DIAMONDS
DC
Thu. 5
FAMILY PLOT & guests
Fri./Sat. 6/7
HERALD NIX/
ROOTS ROUNDUP
111
Sun. 8
GORDON THOMSON
Tues. 10
CO-OP RADIO/CITR BENEFIT
with THE HUNTING PARTY
CD
STUBBORN BLOOD
BRUNO GERUSSI'S MEDALLION
Wed./Thu. 11/12
RHEOSTATICS & The Four Ones
Fri./Sat. 13/14
THE SUE FOLEY BAND
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Tues./Wed. 17/18
AFRICAN MUSIC FEST
with ASA & THE
OGENDENGBE DRUMMERS
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and guests
REGGAE FEST
Thu. 19
ONE RIDDIM
Fri. 20
REDEMPTION
>
Sat. 21
IMPERIAL FORCE (from Montreal)
Tues. 24
AFRICAN TUESDAYS
with ASA & THE
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OGENDENGBE DRUMMERS
and guests
Fri. 27
THE SCRAMBLERS
with THE SICK ONES
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and THE JUNK POETS
Sat. 28
REGGAE SATURDAYS
with TROPICAL BREEZE
932 GRANVILLE    684-8368
MONDAY-SATURDAY 8 P.M.-2 A.M.   SUNDAY 7 P.M.-12 P.M.
MONDAY & TUESDAY 2 FOR 1 HIGHBALLS ALL NIGHT
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That Magazine form CITR Radio 102
November 1987 Vol V No 19
Issue   #58
EDITOR
Bill Mullan
WRITERS
Janis McKenzie, Matt Richards, Mike
Grigg, Julia Steele, Garnet Harry,
Brian Hohm, Anthony Roberts, Robert
Shea, Norman Van Rassel
ILLUSTRATORS
William Thompson, Julia Schenck,
Marty George
PHOTOS
U.N. Owen
COVER
David Arthur
ART DIRECTOR
Matt Richards
LAYOUT
Brian Hohm, Michael Grigg, Julia
Schenck, Chris Buchanen, Emi
Koyanagi, Marry George, Lucy
Crowther
PROGRAM GUIDE
Louis Jantzen
TYPESETTING
Dena Corby, Maja Grip, Don Schuetze
BUSINESS MANAGER
Randy Iwata
ADVERTISING
Lucy Crowther
DISTRIBUTION
David Newell, Bill Mullan
SUBSCRIPTIONS
Randy Iwata
PUBLISHER
Harry Hertscheg
Discorder Magazine, c/o CITR - UBC Radio
6138 SUB Blvd., Vancouver, B.C. Canada
V6T 2A5 S(604) 228-3017
Discorder is That Magazine from CITR Radio
102 and is published monthly by the Student Radio
Society of the University of British Columbia, although it winds up being printed deep from within
Surrey, Canada.
Discorder Magazine prints what it wants to, but
pledges to put the CITR On The Dial program schedule and SpinList record chart in every issue. Discorder also vows to circulate 17,500 copies by the
first of each month. Subscriptions are encouraged.
Twelve issues: $12 in Canada, $12(US) in the
States, $18 elsewhere. Make money orders or
certified cheques payable to 'CITR Publications'.
CITR Radio 102 broadcasts a 49-watt stereo signal throughout the Vancouver area at 101.9 FM.
But for best reception, hook up to the FM cable network. CITR is at 101.9 cable FM on Rogers (Lower
Mainland) and Shaw (North Shore) cable systems,
but is still at 100.1 on Rogers (Fraser Valley).
Inquiries about CITR, Discorder or the Mobile
Sound System can be directed to station manager
Harry Hertscheg at 228-3017, between 10 am - 4
pm, Monday to Friday. If you want to talk to the
deejay, call 228-2487 or 228-CITR.
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• DANGEROUS SEX
It's catching
• CARNAL TRUISMS
Sometimes it hurts
• FLYING SOLO
Your deepest darkest secret
• SURE I SWEAT
But is it normal
• PHASING OUT THE OLD 'IN-OUT'
Alternatives to intercourse
• THIS IS OBSCENE
The Coalition for the Right To View
• SONIC YOUTH
Because it's there
• ELECTRONIC MUSIC
Haircuts not important
IN MOST ISSUES
• AIRHEAD
readers who write
• irSTRUE
and it's happening
• VINYL VERDICT
nothing but the truth
• LOCAL MOTION
in a city near you
• ON THE DIAL
everyperson's guide to CITR
• SPIN LIST
platters that matter
• HINDSIGHT
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c/o CITR
6138 SUB Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C.
V6T 2AS
J'ACCUSE
Discorder,
I am having read your Discorder called
"Drugs". I think you are all horrible communists, and deserve to die horriblest way
which is possible. Why you are telling people
this drug-things. Also, you are bad, you
never care someone is going to read this
thing and go for horrible acid journey, maybe
toss his bodie from Lion's Gate Bridge.
Francoise Hardy
There are no Communists at Discorder. All
who participate must sign a series of four
loyalty oaths. There aren't any Liberals,
Catholics or Freemasons either.
A QUESTION OF TOLERANCE
Airhead,
Please convey to Fuckface Winslo that
Cannabis IS addictive! I know it's all in good
fun, you say, but Not So! Some of your idiot
readers of Discorder believe it all.
(unsigned)
There is a world of difference between
physical addiction and mental habit. Alcohol
(like heroin) is addictive. Cannabis (like
television) is habit-forming. Just keep in
mind, an addiction can kill, whereas I've yet
to hear of anyone actually "dying" for a toke.
PS., I'd rather be a Fuckface than a
Fuckhead any day
4    DISCORDER
based on available facts. True, there's been
a cover-up. People are not informed. Imagine what would happen if they did know.
Think of it this way. What organizations
answer to no man and can do all their
business in secret? The CIA and the CSIS.
They've done it in the past. They're doing it
now.
Nancy's "Say No" campaign is utterly futile
if not strong enticement for experimentation.
While our cities are decaying, more and
more people are escaping the stress, ignoring the crap all around them. Meanwhile,
we're all swimming in it. If anyone out there
still has the strength to care about their
society, YOUR culture, then stop and think.
The real world stinks for too many people. A
better world is what we need in order to
survive. Not more "Soma".
Theodore F.
P.S. Sorry for the brevity of AIRHEAD this
month. Blame it on Canada Post. Blame it
on Brian Mulroney Blame it on the World
Communist Conspiracy. But please keep on
writing.
MORE UGLY TRUTHS
Airhead,
Upon reading your last issue (DRUGS),
many conflicts came to mind. Sure, people
use them and have for a long time. Saying
"No" only makes the uninitiated curious. The
only culture to my knowledge that was found
"drug-free" was the Inuit (now changed, of
course); but the use of "illegal" drugs is not
just about people experimenting or trying to
ignore, cope with or recreate reality. It's
about money.
Huge profits to be made from controlling
the supply. This means power (i.e.: Mafia
and organized crime). Nowadays, of course,
it isn't just the Mafia. For instance, the
Contras in Costa Rica are financing at least
part of their war on Nicaragua through
smuggling cocaine into the United States.
Read "The Politics of Heroin". It's about the
struggle in Vietnam. US military planes would
fly in with crates marked "Humanitarian Aid"
(actually guns) and fly out full of heroin. Read
"In These Times" (August 5-18, 1967, Vol.
11, No. 3). It quotes the Pulitzer Prize-
winning Miami Herald, The New York Times,
Spin, West 57th, as well as convicted
smugglers and weapons dealers. All sources
point to the obvious source of the crack and
cocaine now on the streets in most major
cities. It started to hit me in the face when all
I heard of available was Afghan hash and
Colombian cocaine. Every junky's toke is a
bullet, every toot a weapon for an illegal
conflict in Central America. Even the United
States Drug Enforcement Agency admits the
Contras are smuggling. But the only shipments busted are the Big Boys' competitors;
Thai-weed and grass and the small-time
operators.
Don't be naive. This is serious business.
A simple conclusion drawn from evidence
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SPEAKING OF SEX, IT MUST BE NOVEM-
ber. Did you know that November along with
February are North America's two top television viewing months? Why do you think that
is? Could it be that people stay home alot?
Well, CITR's doing its bit to get you out this
month, though believe us, it's not easy.
November 1st (Sunday) sees Northern
Ireland's That Petrol Emotion's local debut
at the Town Pump with Sons of Freedom
warming up. This will be a blazing show with
lots of wicked guitar. Hope you didn't read
this too late. Nine days later (Tuesday night)
The Beat Farmers will be hammering out the
tunes at 86 Street. And just three days later,
CITR presents the concert of the year. U2 at
B.C. Place. Actually, we aren't presenting it,
but they did ask us first, and we declined
seeing as how it was so close to Remembrance Day.
Otherwise barring the sudden demise of
Western Civilization (not such a paranoid
concept these days) we'll be back next
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"We have a patient, a young girl, she
went to Africa, hiking around, backpacking - she had sex with two guys the whole
time - she was away about six months.
One guy in Zaire. The other guy in the
Sudan. These guys were not sick. When
she came back here, she had large
lymph-nodes and she's AIDS positive."
In case you haven't heard, there's a hip
new disease making the rounds these days.
It's called AIDS (Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome) and if you do contract it,
chances are very good it will kill you.
Syphilis, Herpes, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea
take a bow. The new kid in town blows you
away. Seriously The AIDS virus attacks your
immune system. It destroys the part of you
which normally would fight infection. Your
immune system gone, your body becomes
an open reservoir for common infections,
some of which can be cured. But the defect
iust keeps inviting more and more nasty
oossibilities and eventually one of them will
6   DISCORDER
do the job. Kind of makes you question key
aspects of the libertarian revolutions of the
sixties and seventies, doesn't it? Peace,
drugs, free love? Kind of makes you feel as
though you've been sucker-punched by a
close personal friend.
At the risk of being redundant, DISCORDER decided it was crucial that we get some
'Ilumination on a few key points we weren't
absolutely, positively, one hundred percent
clear on. Sometimes you can't be too careful.
Only after much wheeling, waiting, dealing,
rearranging and frustration did we manage
to cross paths with Doctor Grant Stiver, the
Assistant Head of Infectious Diseases Division (UBC and Vancouver General Hospitals) and chairman of the AIDS Clinical Care
Subcommittee. Are all AIDS specialists so
busy?
How many people are infected?
There are probably five to ten thousand
people infected with AIDS in British Columbia. As of early 1987, there had been about
two hundred reported cases. I don't know
how many of them had already died. If you
look at the seed - the incidence of AIDS per
hundred thousand population - the incidence of AIDS in British Columbia is close
to the incidence in Haiti, which makes it one
of the highest in the world.
How is AIDS transmitted?
AIDS transmission is limited to semen and
blood. Transmission happens via needles,
blood transfusions and sexual contact. It has
been detected in saliva but it can't transmit
that way. Certainly, there is no reported case
that it has. You don't get it from touching
people. There's no evidence you can get it
from kissing people, though if you both have
open sores in your mouth .... There's no
evidence that it could happen through food
preparation. No Risk At All!
Is AIDS a heterosexual disease?
It is, no question. We don't have too many
cases in BC yet, but it's just a matter of time. I
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NOVEMBER  1987    7 How exactly do you test for it?
The test that everybody gets done is an
"ELISA" test - Enzymes-Linked-lmmuno-
Sorbant-Assay, which is very sensitive and
that's what you want for a screening test, so
even if there's a few false positives, so what!
You pick up all the true positives plus a few
false ones, which is fine for a screening test.
But then you need a back-up test which is
more specific. This is the Immuno-blotting,
so-called "western blotting" test. It's very
very specific. If you test positive, you've got
the disease.
The only time that you might have the virus
and not have it picked up by this anti-body
test is during the time that you are developing anti-bodies which may be as long as
four months from the time of exposure. Short
of this four months, you can culture the virus.
At present, BC is the first province to be
developing a virus lab with diagnostic capabilities; so that if a doctor wants to know if his
patient has a positive culture, he can send
the specimen to the lab. Right now many
labs in Canada do culture the virus but it's
on a research or special circumstance only
kind of situation. This is an expensive
process unlike the ELISA test.
What about "Carriers"?
We're getting on past seven years of study
and there are still people who are showing
positive antibodies, but showing no sign of
the disease. That's one of the things about
this virus. It has a very long incubation period
before there's any clinical symptoms, and
this is very much to the virus's advantage
because individuals will propagate that virus
love scene that caused fury to break out
and transmit it without knowing it. If you know
you have an illness that's as severe as AIDS
and you're a responsible person, you're not
going to have sex with people, because
you'll kill them.
What about mandatory testing?
Mandatory testing/routine screening is a
big bone of contention. You think, well, I've
had a few partners in my life, I better get
screened for AIDS, and then you have a
positive test. You feel, well, maybe you're
going to live another ten years, and then
you're insurance gets cut off. You're employer finds out and says, well, you know,
your work's not up to scratch. I'm sorry, but
we can't use you anymore. And it's all
because, despite confidentiality, things get
leaked or whatever. What we do recommend
is that people in the so-called "high-risk"
groups get screened. In other words, a
sexual partner of somebody who is AIDS
positive, intravenous drug users past and
present, the spouses of hemo-philiacs, and
those who've had a wide number of sexual
contacts especially, of course, if they're gay
males.
If it's positive, then what do you do? That is
the question. Does it mean you've got the
virus and you're going to die or does it mean
you've formed antibodies and you're going
to be immune? Well, we don't know that yet.
You could be exposed to the virus, develop
antibodies against it and for some reason
get rid of that virus - your immune system
gets rid of it - which at the present time is
highly unlikely - but you still get a positive
antibody test.
How cooperative has the government been?
The government is responding responsibly.
VGH for example is geared up with programs
in education, research, laboratory facilities
and patient care - all of it at the urging of the
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8   DISCORDER Provincial Government. There's always more
that can be done. The number of dollars that
goes into AIDS research provincially and
federally is significant, but probably not
appropriate given the degree of the potential
severity of this disease.
What about these new AIDS drugs we keep
hearing about?
They do inhibit the virus. They may be the
answer. If we get a really good one against
the virus that's tolerable by human beings,
that'll be great. If we can at least halt the
proliferation of this virus, then it's up to the
public to change their sexual habits so that
they minimize transmission and over a
period of ten to twenty years the reservoir
will decrease. But that's the only way. I think
it's very important that people understand
prevention is the only key to halting this
disease. Prevention means individuals have
to be a little more responsible in their sexual
activities and that means decreasing promiscuity even though it's fun. It's getting dangerous.
The main thing is to be informed. Don't
put things like AIDS in the closet. Talk to
people about it. Find out about it. We've got
to start talking to kids when they're small,
before they're into puberty, fifth grade, sixth
grade. Many parents aren't informed. They
still have so many Victorian hang-ups about
sexually transmitted infections - it's only
tramps on the street that get those - that
they don't want to talk about it. It's a huge
problem.
People have got to change behaviour, not
think "I've got to have it all. By the time I'm
twenty, I've got to have had fifty partners or
I just haven't lived my real teenage life
properly." It's what kids get in the media.
"Hey, man, if you're not screwing around all
the time, with these two chicks in a big car,
then you're just not livin' life, You've got to
have WILD EXPERIENCES before you settle
down in your pin-stripe suit." That's insane.
It doesn't mean that everybody has to walk
around like puritans, but there has to be
some change in the sexual behaviour of the
community in terms of a comparison to the
sixties and seventies. Everything is sex-
oriented. Ads are sex-oriented, TV programs
are all sex-oriented. It's hard for young kids
to deal with the reality of AIDS in the face of
all this fantasy. It's hard for adults. On the
other hand, just look at the power of the tube
in terms of advertising and selling things.
Imagine if we put that to some real productive focus in terms of a disease like AIDS.
You can really influence people. You can
turn around public behaviour. That is where
we should be going. New drugs? That's not
the answer. I think it's critical. Unless the
public says, we are going to act together to
stop this disease which is fatal, there will be
no recovery from AIDS as we know it. The
medical community cannot do it on its own.
Mike Grigg and Bill Mullan
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TRUISMS
Men who objectify women may be adequate
lovers, but they will watch you come in much
the same way they'd watch those machines
that cluck, shudder and shake, and then lay
eggs with prizes inside. Men like this may
or may not wear too much after-shave.
Men who are squeamish make terrible
lovers; invariably, they never smell (except
like too much after-shave unless they are too
squeamish to touch their arm pits).
A good way to find out how your lover feels
about menstruation is to leave boxes of
tampons out in BROAD DAYLIGHT. He will:
a) tell you to put them somewhere more
discreet.
b) open the box and try one out in any
available orifice (this includes unsuspecting
pets).
c) not notice or care unless he's never
seen them before in which case he may be
interested in perusing the instruction manual.
You can tell how good your lover will be
by the euphemisms he uses. Men who refer
to the female, genitalia with clinical words like
"vagina" will know what a clitoris is and the
many possible ways of touching it (but see
what I mentioned previously about the
chicken vending machines). Men who talk
about "down there" or "you know what I
mean" are referring to what they view to be
a steaming hole of terrifying odours and
slime. They also have never seen a real live
clitoris first hand. Men who say that they are
"feeling frisky tonight" like "to do it doggie-
style". This means that they will bark and
bite, but it could also mean that they are too
terrified to actually look at you. Men who get
to the point simply do, and rarely wear too
much after-shave.
The artful act of masturbation has
long been a topic not easily or
openly dealt with. This is due mainly
to the fact most of us are too strung
out on being cool to admit to our peers that
we do indeed "beat it". To do so would not
only jeopardize our social credibility but
worse, render us uncool. It is said that
ninety-nine percent of the world's population
masturbate regularly, and the remaining one
percent lie. No doubt you, the reader, are
part of that elite one percent. You've laughed
at those caught hard-on in hand, called them
"Beat-off", "Wanker", "Jizz Monkey"; but if
my bets are correct, you're probably one of
the biggest jerk-offs around. Why deny it?
You don't have to shout from the rooftops
that you're at peace with the world, that you
can beat with the best of them; but do,
please, tell someone, a close trusted friend.
You'll feel better instantly. All guilt and shame
will fade and the true pleasure of flying solo
will reveal itself. You'll be able to lie in your
bathtub, a copy of Penthouse letters in hand,
and feel nothing but pleasure and accomplishment.
The facts are, my self-fornicating friends,
that you do it. If you had a dollar for every
time you wanked, you'd be a millionaire. If
every stroke was a good deed, you'd have
been inducted into the Boy Scout Hall of
Fame by the time you were fifteen.
Need I mention that I include you girls in
this as well? In fact, next to the guy who just
handed you this magazine, you're the biggest offenders. One single activity confirms
this: The Pajama Party. Pajama parties were
invented for group masturbation. In the fifties
(when masturbation itself was invented, by
the way), girls got together and rubbed
themselves to indecent thoughts of Elvis and
his pulsating pelvis. Meanwhile, the boys
were at home fantasizing about hot-rods and
the day when the girls would finally stop
fantasizing about Elvis and get out and seek
some real action.
In the sixties, girls had turned to sex-gods
such as Trini Lopez, while the boys dreamt
about hot-rods and Nancy Sinatra. Things
were looking bad for the boys. Masturbation
was at an all-time high in the seventies, no
doubt due to Watergate. Young boys were
masturbating to rock bands such as Kiss,
Led Zeppelin and Queen. Young girls on the
other hand wanted to join The Runaways.
The seventies were strange. Now the eighties are almost over and we have more to
masturbate about than ever before. Girls
have George Michael, The Chippendales
and the ghost of Elvis. Boys have guys who
play awesome guitar. Some things never
change.
So maybe you're lonely. Maybe your
girlfriend or boyfriend is out of town. Maybe
it's Tuesday. The point is you all wank, beat,
jerk off, pull your pud, stroke and fly. And
you're good at it. Next time you speak to the
Palm sisters, say "Hi" to them for me.
Garnet Harry
NOVEMBER  1987    11 Sure I Sweat
All Over.
Nobody's
Got To
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NORMAL, healthy, safe, good,
clean, old-fashioned, essential
for psychological well-being,
wholesome, natural, all-Ameri-
can, straight, breeder, recreational, procreational, socially
acceptable, the way God meant it to be, Dr.
Ruth-approved, fun, thrilling, mind-blowing,
earth-shaking, cool, relaxing, satisfying, romanticized, shrouded in mystery, suppressed,
obsessed, not discussed in mixed company,
first experienced while rope-climbing in
phys-ed class; dinner-and-a-movie, clutching in the parking lot, he's got roommates
but as she's being dropped home she
mentions that her parents are gone for the
weekend and would he like to come in for a
bit, "Are you sure you wouldn't like to take
off your jacket?", "Why don't I get us
something to drink?", "Well, to be honest you
remind me of my father," obligatory feigned
yawn (you know, with his arms stretched out
along the back of the couch, edging toward
her far shoulder), "Why can't the men I
usually go out with be more like you?", "Can
you see? I think there's something in my
eye," tentative gropings, eyeglasses snagging in hair, run-of-the-mill animal passions,
disrobings, ripping his wallet apart looking
for contraceptive device (three months ago
the drugstore clerk actually looked bored as
she rang up the box of six: this will be the first
one he uses), more animal passions now
with forced breathings, half-words repeated
and crescendoed, small deaths (one each),
his like he's giving birth, hers like she's just
figured out an intricately carved puzzle
[WAIT! strike that, I mean how am I supposed to know], gentle cooings, whispers
and giggles, earnest discussions long into
the morning, contented sleep
; with no gratuitous or sensational exploitation (which I suspect this publication is now
just a little guilty of)
; nor any references to masturbation,
homosexuality, prostitution, or sundry fetishes and philias (including Captain High-
liner jokes)
; and absolutely no incest, violence, or
coercion of minors
; nor any thought to moral, ethical, religious
or spiritual implications
; but yes! exhortations at every opportunity
towards mid-to-late-eighties hygienic tendencies, with emphasis on personal responsibility, the abstinence option, monogamy,
and the use of prophylactics—as if the
mention of hygiene precludes the necessity
of explicitly talking about pregnancy or any
of a dozen sexually transmitted diseases, at
least one of which is very fatal. . .
After flossing I finally succumbed. I put
down the string and leaned with one hand
on the sink edge and the other on the faucet.
I kissed with full, flat, cold-glass lips. But the
longer I did it the more the image became
distorted with saliva. I wiped the mirror with
a washcloth and asked myself "Is this
normal?"
JB Hohm
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NOVEMBER  1987    13 Night after night it's the same old
story. Hardbodies, everywhere, looking for a flesh fixation: and you're
one of 'em. The throbbing pink of
nightclub neon. A promise of sexual abandon. You go inside. You sweat. You dance.
You like your reflection in the mirror. Wow! It
has that fashionably androgynous appeal!
Looks good!
From the corners of both eyes you see
them: dozens of prospective mates. Much
feigned elusiveness. You cut a swath
through the gyrating bodies of the slippery
dance floor.  There. In the flimsy maroon.
Your mate. You smile. You drink. You dance.
You smoke. You go home together. You listen
to your roommate's Roxy Music tape and
masturbate each other on the couch. You're
in the bedroom. Lights out. You stroke each
other's skin. You make funny sucking sounds
as your chests stick together. You think of
toilet plungers. You lick your partner's ear
and grab for hair in bunches. The MOMENT
looms ahead, open and revolving like a
blackwall tunnel. A spasm. It hits you. This
is it. I'm getting laid. I can't fucking believe
it. I'm here: it's that same old story, night after
night. "Another squelch session . . . there
must be something more to life ..." you
wonder as the wobbly warhead descends
slowly towards the ground zero grotto ... too
late. It's in.
Afterwards you lie there with sex gunk in
the sheets. Foul odors and spiralling laundry
costs permeate your dummyhead consciousness. You feel ripped off, guilty, and fat. You
call a cab. You go home alone. Sore throat,
dry chafing inside sweaty thighs. Ugh. You
feel like pressed turkey meat. You wake up
alone in your own bed, stomach reeling. You
smell bad. "What a wasted effort," you think.
"I think I'll go celibate. After all, sex is no
longer the great panacea it once was.
Besides, sex is stinky, slimy, and generally
unpalatable. I'm bored. I'm taking a cold
shower."
Phasing Out The Old 'In-Out'
Sure it's difficult. But it can be done.
Celibate synchronicity is sweeping
the globe. Intercourse today is
either too boring or too dangerous.
No middle ground. Practically speaking, isn't
it time we started looking for alternatives?
Of course, this is not a habit one can break
easily, cold turkey if you like. It takes time,
patience and dedication to finally overcome
the primitive urge to procreate. Step by step,
we must evolve.
.INTERCOURSE ALTERNATIVES
1. MASTURBATION (stating the obvious)
PROS: • orgasm is likely • reassuring premise: "everybody does it" • cheap
• fun • boredom overcome
CONS: • post-orgasmic guilt • blindness • unusual hair growth
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: variable to excellent
PRE-REQUISITES: one hand, lubricant, rudimentary imagination.
2. PSYCHOACTIVE DRUGS
PROS: »oneness with god • oneness with
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self • you are god
CONS: • the black widows breathing inside
the fridge • testicle absorption in the
male • demonic imagery while masturbating • you are not god • you are
dead
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: with
self - poor, with partner - very poor,
with partner on same drug - impossible.
PRE-REQUISITES: drug connections, boredom.
3. CONTACT SPORTS
PROS: • builds character • greater lung capacity realized 'cathartic: liberates
primitive lust for violence
CONS: -often painful; loss of blood 'reduced brain activity 'group-
oriented thought, speech, and behaviour patterns • bad haircut
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: involuntary, rare.
PRE-REQUISITES: 'sadistic or unfeeling
mother • father with unresolved inferiority complex • you are a mental
midget • you are American
4. RELIGION
PROS: • (conditional) ticket to heaven • lots
of free books • friends • heightened
awareness at flea-markets
CONS: 'lack  of  sleep  'hair  loss  -guilt
• doubt • numbness in groin area
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: poor.
PRE-REQUISITES:   -sadistic   or   unfeeling
father • mother with unresolved inferiority complex • fear of death • you
are god »you hope you are god
• you are not god • you are confused
5. GERMANIC PHILOSOPHY
PROS: • better understanding of death • ability to confuse most common mortals
with empty rhetoric • renewed sense
of worth if sickly and weak
CONS: 'false sense of moral superiority
•social alienation 'excessive masturbation
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: not
good.
PRE-REQUISITES: Kant, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Wagner's Operas, childhood
anemia. 6. STARE VACANTLY AT LIGHT BULB IN
CEILING
PROS: • increased photic perception • possible catalyst of photic sneeze (orgasmic reflex in males) • aesthetic
sensibility realized 'artificially induced hypnotic state
CONS: • headaches • corneal dysfunction
• manic depression followed by fits
of vomiting
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: unlikely.
PRE-REQUISITES: electricity, psychosis.
7. SNEEZING
PROS: • orgasmic reflex in all humans • magnetic attraction to flowering plants
• sudden relief of pollen inhalation
CONS: • often precedes fatal illness • pollen
withdrawal in winter • induces paranoia in close knit crowds • spray
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: low to
high; variable.
PRE-REQUISITES: dust particles, pollen,
flora, sources of light, hair, fur-
bearing animals, itchy probiscous,
disease.
8. DOG (domesticated)
PROS: • it makes a nice pet • will eat
anything • man's best friend: a friend
for life • you have accelerated feelings of mental superiority • frequent
exercise in pleasant surroundings • it
leg-humps the neighbour's kid
CONS: 'annoying stupidity • it leg-humps
the landlord • it leg-humps you • barking, bites • foul odor • humps the cat
• you want to punt it • you step in
dogshit • hard to get rid of • paranoia
of pet's hidden motives
CHANCE OF ACHIEVING ORGASM: terrible.
For dog: often.
PRE-REQUISITES: compassion, canine-
altruism, isolation, loneliness, deviant sexual practices, lack of sex,
food.
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NOVEMBER  1987    15 THIS   IS    OBS<
Let us be clear: whatever rhetorical assurances the Attorney General may give the public, this is
censorship legislation, not simply
an informative classification
scheme. Bill 30 (passed by the
British Columbia Legislature in 1986) will
give sweeping powers to the Director of
Classification Branch and to the Cabinet to
define sexuality, suggestive or explicit, and
to change the exact criteria for what is to be
classified.
It says basically that all film and video to
be screened in British Columbia has to be
submitted for classification and censorship;
that the director of the Board has the right
to cut scenes. It defines the kind of material
that anybody under the age of eighteen is
allowed to see and basically excludes all
material that has reference to sexuality in it.
And it also has a series of categories of work
that cannot be shown in the province at all,
that have to be censored, which include
things like necrophilia and bestiality.
There's a war on in the world—let's call
it The Censorship War—and In case
you're not aware, you've already chosen
a side. Either you're in favour of people's
unrestricted rights to see, hear and read
whatever they want or you're not. Either
you believe in the individual's ability to
perceive and judge reality for his/herself,
or you believe it has to be perceived and
judged for him/her by some other individual or bureaucracy. Very simple. This
applies to all arts, ail information; though
nowhere does it hit home and shake up
the proverbial sacred cows more profoundly than in the realm of film and video.
Locally, this conflict is manifesting itself
around the aforementioned Bill 30. Those
in favour, you know who you are. Those
opposed, there's an organization called
Coalition for the Right to View (CRTV) you
should know about. Women, gays, independent video and film distributors, technicians, writers and concerned individuals from the cultural community, they're
united by a common concern about the
potentially destructive impact of the aforementioned Bill 30. Discorder spoke with
Sarah Diamond, video artist and founding
member of CRTV, early in October. She
had a lot to say.
We're completely opposed to any kind of
state censorship, whether it be in the form
of customs regulations, classification branches
or the Criminal Code of Canada. Time and
time again, such mechanisms have been
used to strike down alternative work—work
that deals with the more socially threatening
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areas of sexuality. You have to almost get
into an analysis of how the state and
government works, and how it works to
regulate sexuality, because in fact the laws
that exist and the people who apply the laws
tend to want to maintain the sort of power
structures that currently exist between genders, men and women, and I think generally
in the kind of images that are pervasive in
the culture. Images based on criteria of
certain conservative community standards
whose main concern is the retention of a
nineteenth-century through mid-twentieth-
century sort of norm of rule by the church
and its limited view of moral values. Images
that many artists, musicians, filmmakers and
the like have very strong criticisms of, and
no doubt which they wish to address and
possibly change.
We do not believe that it is appropriate to
give one person or a small committee the
power to decide what is offensive, what is
sexually explicit and what is art, and on that
basis to proscribe access for an entire
province. These are major concerns that are
not easily defined in our society.
I think Mary Lou McCausland (current
director of the BC Film and Video Classification Branch) is one of the most liberal
administrators of her kind in Canada. She's
historically argued against censorship and
in favour of classification, but the new law
that they've brought in in BC does not follow
her way of thinking. It has very strict
guidelines as to what is to be censored,
which is a change from the previous motion
picture act. You can't judge a law by the
person who at one point in time is administering it. You look at its potential danger. I heard
of a case in America where an anti-drug
video and song was withdrawn from the
airwaves because it mentioned drugs. The
whole direction of the lyrics was to be critical
of drug use, but that's what happens with
these across-the-board laws. No context.
No discussion. I think that definitions will
always be abused.
We aren't saying "Let everything go," so
much as we're saying, let's change our
sensibilities and sensitivity to what kind of
images we want to have in our lives, to what
we find acceptable. There are definitely
genres of pornography which propagate
existing values of sexism, and of real
violence. There's absolutely no way that
CRTV feels that those genres are totally
acceptable. However, we don't feel that
pornography itself or the images are what
cause people to abuse kids or to rape or to
do this or that. We think that the social
structures and our socialization processes
do that. The images may enforce what we
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do, but they're not the cause. There certainly
was child abuse before there was kiddie
porn. What we primarily believe is the place
where action has to be taken is the place
where that material is being produced. I
mean there are existing laws which deal with
child abuse. It's illegal to sexually abuse a
child whether it's at home or on a movie set.
We don't need new laws aimed at specific
media
$600,000.00—the cost just to get the
Video Classification Branch up and running.
We believe very much that people should
be fighting for far more funding for film and
video educational material that includes
sexuality within or deals specifically with
sexuality whether it be erotica or whether it
be sex education material. We believe social
programs that benefit the victims of sexual
abuse—women and children—should be set
up and/or expanded, not cut back as has
been the case provincially over the past five
or ten years. We do believe in the rights of
communities or special interest groups or
whoever's concerned to set up educational
pickets, to leaflet, et cetera as various
women's group did a few years ago when
Red Hot Video was selling tapes that were
extremely violent, misogynist and the like. It
was very educational to the general public,
more so than if a couple of the tapes had
been seized by the Attorney General and
then investigated behind closed doors.
We do not feel that access to explicit
imagery is dangerous for youth. In fact,
young people seek out pornography precisely because they are curious about sex,
lack concrete information and are looking for
role models. Suppression through restriction
simply reinforces the ancient value that sex
is dirty, not to be discussed and certainly
not shown.
To me it's incredible the idea that your
youth sort of ends at eighteen when you
suddenly enter into some sort of "adult"
realm which is alcohol, sex and voting. I
don't think that's very real. There needs to
be sex education in the school system—in
the face of the AIDS crisis, it's a question of
survival—and it can't be the kind of education that the Provincial Government talks
about which is like NOT TO DO IT EVER
UNTIL YOU'RE MARRIED. Every sane expert
on the subject says the best way to combat
AIDS is through education. It's not through
quarantine laws. It's not through fundamentalist terror. It's through education. If you
cannot talk explicitly about sex and sexual
activity, how do you educate about AIDS? If
you can't talk to young people about preven- E
tive measures to deal with AIDS, then you're
making a huge community vulnerable. In a
way, there's something criminal about the
whole situation. --v^SSa.   **>*
The CRTV does not see censorship as a
solution. The more extreme images will
continue to be available underground, perhaps at a more precious cost to the buyer.
Porn will be more attractive to teens because
of the "verboten" label (and will still be
available at home). We don't think that the
law will diminish the rampant incidence of
sexual abuse, violence against women and
children, rape and battery. In fact, it could
well help us on our way to a society where
these crimes continue to accelerate even
more: a society of repression, where imaginative resistance is not permitted and where
a discussion of abuse, let alone of pleasure,
is prohibited. Wjfc- ~Zjf~       /WV¥i —.»
Like we mentioned, it's a war out there,
between those who want to tell you what
to see, feel and do, and those who feel the
world would spin more agreeably were
these decisions left to you. How far is
CRTV willing to go in its fight? Witness
the sudden change of venue for the video
section of ARTROPOLIS this past month,
a move which was instigated by the
Pacific Cinematheque's policy of compliance with the BC Film and Video Classification Board, even though in the specific
case of ARTROPOLIS, the necessary submission to the board had been waived.
The artists were sufficiently upset that
there had been any communication at all
with any regulatory agency, and though
in this instance they were acting independently of CRTV, many of them are
affiliated. In any event, they share the
same bottom line: absolutely no compromise. To comply in any way would be to
acknowledge validity. Think about this the
next time you notice a video you've rented
is missing certain key pieces. Think about
it as you hear more and more scary
rumours about what's going on south of
the border in the name of goodness and
decency. It's already illegal to say "Butthole Surfers" on American radio, and no
doubt a certain eminent local punk rocker
has already been pressured to change his
name to Joey Fecal-Matter-Head. Sound
absurd? Well, you're living in it.
Bill Mullan
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Want to know more?
Contact the CRTV at P.O. BOX 69376,
STATION K, VANCOUVER, BC V5K 4W6.
Want to do something?
Try direct action. Send a letter to Ray
Hnatyshyn (Federal Justice Minister) protesting federal bill C-54 (a pending
federal censorship/classification bill), stating your opposition to the bill, and adding
anything else you wish. You are an
Individual. His address is PARLIAMENT
BUILDINGS, OTTAWA, ONTARIO K1A
0H8. Otherwise, spread the word. Keep
your ears, eyes and especially your mind
open.
	 Sonic Youth are a rock band
from NYC. Two guitars (Lee
Renaldo and Thurston Moore),
bass (Kim Gordon) and drums
(Steve Shelley). Kim and
Thurston share the vocals.
As their name suggests, a lot of what
they're about is sound, huge gobs of it.
Guitars so clean and fast they hurt, hung
over rhythms that wander from the smooth
to the psychotic. Rock'n roll with a
difference. Recording since 1982, they've
worked with the likes of Glen Branca and
Lydia Lunch. They've also toured extensively ("about five months a year"), all
over North America and to points beyond
as well. Last October 4th, their latest
sojourn brought them to the Luv-A-Fair
where Discorder (along with a couple of
lads from UVic) managed to corner
Thurston and Kim for a brief pre-gig
discussion. They came across as regular
folk, a bit shagged and road-weary being
so far from home. Focus shifted. Conversation wandered. It was Sunday night.
AUDIENCES
Most people in our audience are like us.
We have genre people, punks by numbers,
generally down-to-earth people, people our
own age.
THE SONIC YOUTH PROCESS
We're on a schedule. We'll record an
album at this certain point in time and have
the album come out at this point in time. So
what we do is go directly into the studio, write
songs in a a matter of a month or two, lay
down the tracks, then go on tour. We learn
how to play the songs live after we've
recorded them. Both [Evol and Sister] are
similar in that they came out with songs that
are very delicate. We didn't have that much
knowledge of them. It's only now that we are
able to play them live. Bad Moon Rising was
a set of music that we did play live for a few
gigs. Only a few. When we went into the
studio, we recorded it as a set. All segued
together. No gaps.
THE "SISTER" ALBUM
The name for Sister has a lot to do with
schizophrenic themes, has a lot to do with a
lot of things. Pretty ambiguous title. I'd like
to remix Sister into a Bon Jovi sound. We did
it in an old tube studio. It was pretty
interesting except the engineers were pretty
old school, sort of like second assistant
engineers on Billy Joel albums. They didn't
know at all where we were coming from. But
they knew how to get the sounds we wanted.
We were fascinated that there was a studio
from the '50s, old vacuum-tuber RCAs, old
microphones. They even had actual echo
chambers. They recorded movies there,
commercials, classical music. It was in
perfect condition. No digital at all.
WANKING
I don't think it was ever gone. It's disguised
itself. I don't actually see it as wanking. I see
it as a progression. I don't see bands like
us returning to an Emerson, Lake and Palmer
type of thing. Bands like us are getting into
more involved music.
EUROPE
We've toured there six or seven times. We
are successful there. People like the idea
that, here is a band from the States. From
New York! We took Europe by the horns. The
only bands that were going over there were
bands like the Dead Kennedys. A big
Punk-O-Rama thing.
PLAYING WITH DOA IN MUNICH
That was hideous! Bizarre! A total DOA
audience. Mohawks at the end of Oktober-
fest. There's all these Mohawks, leather and
studs, and we're going, "This song is called
You're Beautiful"—a very misplaced show.
ON THE MOVIE "MADE IN THE USA" BY
DIRECTOR KEN FRIEDMAN
We did the underscore for the movie,
which is the instrumentals that go through
the film. The film got into a tangle because
the director had a version that was a bit
serious and had somewhat of a social
statement, and the studio—which is Hemdale
who did Platoon—didn't want to deal with it.
They wanted to make it into a teen movie
which it never was. The director took his
version over to Europe, to all the film
festivals, and he's getting great reviews. The
Hollywood version doesn't have so much of
our music in it.
THE ROAD
We make a living.
The gig at the Luv-A-Fair had its moments, the Renaldo/Moore wall of noise
guitar attack doing its best to separate
brains from their skulls. But it was all too
short, almost grinding to a halt just after
midnite, little more than half an hour after
it began. Sunday drinking laws. Thurston
Moore asked, "What do you want, one of
our songs or five Ramones covers?" Well,
we got four Ramones covers, plus "I
Wanna Be Your Dog" sung by Kim. The
houselights flashed on and Moore suggested we riot, but it was Sunday night,
land this is Vancouver, not NYC. I asked
Kim later where they were spending the
night before the long haul to their next gig
somewhere in Montana.
"We'll probably go back across the
border. There's a Motel Six there."
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This album is like a soundtrack waiting for a
movie to happen (re: Side 1). I love the
vocals. They're very soothing—my friend,
who shall remain nameless, went so far as
to say they are reminiscent of those of Barry
Manilow. Personal favourites are Windfall
and Xavier. The music projects strong images of tall abandoned gothic towers with
ghost-like silhouettes slinking through webbed
hallways.
Danuta D
REM
DOCUMENT
REM are consistent. Every year they put out
a brand new full length LP that has a solid
EP's worth of music on it, which isn't to say
there's only four or five good songs in the
collection. They're all good. It's just that
twenty minutes of listening to their chosen
"sound" is about all I can take. The problem
with consistency is it leads to sameness. But
I shouldn't complain. Most albums would do
well to have a decent seven inch single on
board. And It's the End of the World as We
Know it (and I'm Feeling Fine) is the song of
the year so far. No doubt. Maybe.
Beyond
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SHOW ME
I've listened to this album at least a half
dozen times (an awful lot for me) but I still
can't put my finger on what bugs me about
it. It's not the keyboards. They work sometimes. Nor is it Neil Osborne's finding God
or Christ or whatever that huge white
concept is he's trying to grasp. Why should
U2 be the only rock'n roll band to not burn
in hell? Maybe it's the way the moods
change. Aerosmith here. Yes there. And a
whole bunch more in between. Maybe it's the
production. Where's Brian Eno when you
need him? Don't get me wrong. I very much
like this album. I just feel some of the songs
are stronger than the actual recordings.
Somebody should do a cover of Get Back
Down, U2 for instance.
Bill Mullan
Various Artists
Potatoes
Ralph Records
"Ralph Records is proud to announce its
seduction by the folk muse . . .", but really,
how folk can it be with contributions from the
likes of Renaldo and the Loaf, the Residents,
Rhythm and Noise, and Mark Mothersbaugh?
My favourite is Negativland's Perfect Scrambled Eggs. I hear the Galloping Gourmet got
the Lord (or vice versa) a few years back,
and now here he is on an 'alternative'
compilation album. Weird. Everyone here
takes liberties with the folk idiom, to varying
degrees, but surprise! it's actually listenable.
Unless, of course, you think the last real folk
group was Stringband.
John French, Fred Frith,
Henry Kaiser, and Richard
Thompson
Live, Love, Larf, and Loaf
Rhino Records
I respect these guys but I've always wished
their material wasn't so disjointed, especially
Frith's. This album is mercifully coherent. I
think it has to do with French, Captain
Beefheart's first drummer. His rhythms hold
everything together, and keep it moving
along. The total effect is like ... I'm reaching
here . . . what if Syd Barret formed a group
with Jeff Beck and called it Pogue Floyd?
That's not quite right, but you get the idea;
acidjazzfolk. Some of the silliness reminds
me of Holger Czukay, too. But it's really not
like any of that, it's kind of. . . oh, hell, listen
to it yourself.
P. Funk
Michael Jackson
Bad
CBS
Bad, not BAD
tain Bowman The Coolies
Dig?
Van Morrison
Poetic Champions Compose
First, the Coolies, a band that has both the
gall and the generosity of a completely
deluded financial dabbler to record an entire
album of songs (with one exception) written
by "Stately" Paul Simon. This is a funny idea,
but like most self-referential humour, the
conception is better than the execution. A
colossal smirk tugs at the corners of this
record (no mean- feat or a circular plastic
plane) and at least twice the farcical delivery
of these songs is just too obvious. When a
noble time is had by all (cf. Homeward
Bound, The Only Living Boy in New York), it's
usually courtesy of Mr. Simon's pen. If the
Coolies had just worked harder, the horselaughs that are the band's raison d'etre
wouldn't be so grudging. Of course, if they
were the type of lads to "work harder", they
probably wouldn't have dreamt up this
record. Speaking of dreaming, the tramp of
transcendence has begun to lull himself to
sleep. Van Morrison is succumbing to the
tour-guide professionalism that his music
laughed at even while it followed dutifully in
step somewhere near the front of the line.
There is a multitude of magnificence on this
record, but it's always just down the groove
from the next homily (Look out—"Trust what
I say and do what you're told, and surely all
your dirt will turn into gold."?!?!?), or, worse,
the infuriating easy-rockin' rhythms that he
previously managed to banish from his most
hypnotic music. The stock arrangements
and cautious dexterity of the accompaniment has sapped the mystery from this
music, and that's a shame, because Van
Morrison has taken a soaring dagger to pop
banality more times than you can remember.
Perhaps he has simply been associating with
the heathens too often lately. You know,
running with the wrong crowd. People who
don't like the Coolies, for instance. Worse
yet, the Coolies themselves!!
Malibu Mike Dezell
Samantha Fox
Touch Me
When I bought this record I was hoping for
something a little more offensive. Yes, it's
crassly commercial and slightly provocative,
but there's always a redeeming lyric or
phrase that keeps it out of the church
incinerator. I wonder if album sales have
surpassed poster sales yet. Aesthetically
they are about on the same level.
The tunes are catchy and reek of hormonal
overload: ambiguous love songs that harp
on her self-possession. It's difficult to say
just how much control she had in making the
album. All the credits are apparently male.
In the last song her boyfriend wants sex all
the time. I wonder why?
I put this in my comedy album section.
Matt Richards
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NOVEMBER  1987    23 So yours truly was a judge and
mistress of ceremonies at this
year's first Shindig semi-finals -
neither one an enviable task
considering the ability and determination of the bands that
were competing (and their fierce loyal followers). Congratulations to the Rainwalker:
who'll go on to the finals in December, am
condolences to Playdoh Republic (who
came in a close second and should have
won something too), Biff Hackett (much
improved since their Young Adult days and
now with two rocking songs playlisted at
CITR), and Stick Figures (the youngest of
the bands, I think - I hope to see more of
them in the new year). Shindig took a break
for Thanksgiving but came back on the 19th
when Big Can of Dog Food (somehow
related to Big Electric Cat and somebody
told me they reminded him a little of the
Enigmas) beat out Ivan Purple and Gum-
boots.
And now for the bad news - unfortunately
for Vancouver, Cattle Prod (who brought us
the Canadian Independent Music Festival
this year and last, among lots of other things)
is no more. Mark Smith will probably be
heading out to Toronto while Jay Scott (a
former CITR vice-president, by the way) will
be continuing to do pretty much what he has
been doing for the local scene for years;
albeit at a slower pace. It's about time.
No-one who ever dropped by their offices/
home will really wonder, why the demise. I'm
still amazed and impressed that Jay and
Mark (and Barry) managed to survive as long
as they did on a meager diet of local music
promotion, bands sleeping on the floor,
cross-country tours, working 3 and 4 jobs,
and simple poverty. I wish them individual
good luck in the future.
As for demos this month, there's Walking
on Heels and Mickey Finn from Biff Hackett
(as I've already mentioned) both of which
really liked (I still can't get the chorus from
Mickey Finn out of my head); but the band's
changed singers since this tape was made,
so expect replacements (different songs?
different versions?) before too long.
Also new is a first demo from Tin God,
who's made up of former (and current)
members of the immortal Subhumans, Shanghai Dog, Celebrity Drunks, and Soldiers
of Sport (to name only 4), but City of Dreams
is nothing like old punk or whatever you
might expect from the members' backgrounds. Hard to explain in terms of what it
is (other than quite quiet). Best listen for
yourself.
There's also a first demo from Blue For
Mary- What's Wrong. Now I haven't actually
seen them play yet, but I do know that their
singer, Tony, used to be in Cast of Thousands and wants us to pay attention to the
lyrics. Unfortunately, what I liked about Cast
of Thousands - isn't apparent here. While I
know this is meant to be a different band, it
sounds as if it needs to mature a bit more
clearly in its chosen direction
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Last of all comes my pick for the month -
a six-song tape from the Stingin' Hornets,
soon to be available in all the cool record
stores around town. You may have seen
them playing in various party-type atmospheres - they're famous locally for their
ability to get people dancing - but what's
really impressive is that somehow that
fun/sexy/intense quality got captured on a
magnetic tape. The lineup is as cool as they
come, with Ian Tiles (formerly in just about
every happening Vancouver band since the
late 70's) on drums; Joanie Kepler (not just
so the guys in the audience have something
nice to look at too) on stand-up bass; Jamie
Kinloch (amazing) on guitar; and Howard Rix
(also the singer for The Scramblers - who
should have a record out soon - and who
sounds here like Elvis, Iggy, even Roy
Orbison in places, all rolled into one); with
piano contributions by Mike Van Eyes. The
songs which are playlisted - Please Give
Me Something and Rocket In My Pocket.
Janis
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WEEKDAY HIGHLIGHTS
MONDAYS
RANDOM DESIGNS
7:30-10:00 am
"Can you catch exploding bunnies from hell?
What do you do with them once you catch them?
Do you care?" A show for apathetic fur-bearing
humanoids. Join Melissa for your weekly dose
of superficiality.
SOUP OF THE DAY
11:00 am-1 pm
One can never be sure of what's a-stirring in the
pot of 'Captain K—but if you're daring enough
to partake, you might find it quite palatable—
and if not, the Captain doesn't adhere strictly to
the "too many kooks" theory. ...Head Kook: Kevin
Williams—and sometimes specially imported
chef from Kimberly, Lupus Yonderboy.
DOGS BREAKFAST
1:00-3:00 pm
Each time you open the box something different
comes out. Could be Jazz, hardcore, country,
metal, rare oldies or even schlock. Your guess
is as good as mine! Frank Sivertz hosts.
THE JAZZ SHOW
9:00-12:30 am
Vancouver's longest-running prime time Jazz
program, featuring all the classic players, the
occasional interview, and local music news.
Hosted by the ever-suave Gavin Walker.
02 Nov.  "Marsalis Standard Time" is the latest
from a more mature Wynton Marsalis
who (like many others these days) is exploring
"standards" (tunes that have survived as Jazz
vehicles for many years). Wynton and his quartet
give them a new, creative twist.
09 Nov.  "The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes
Montgomery" was the eye-catching
title of Wes' first great Jazz recording. It was done
in 1960 and still stands as one of the finest examples of real Jazz guitar. Wes with Tommy
Flanagan, Percy Heath and Albert Heath.
76 Nov.   "The Art of the Ballad." Great Jazz
players expressing softer, more gentle
feelings. As someone once said..."If y'all can't
play a ballad y'all can't play Jazz."
23 Nov.  "Sonny Rollins in Paris"...the great
tenor saxophonist in a "stream of consciousness" mood as he carries his audience
and his sidemen (Franch bassist Gilbert Rovere
and drummer Arthur Taylor) through his musical
labyrinth. Sonny in action!
30 Nov. "Coltrane" was the title of the "Classic
Quartet's" first studio venture. John
Coltrane with McCoy Tyner (piano), Jimmy Garrison (bass) and Elvin Jones (drums) bring power
and majesty to the music that will take us to the
past, present and beyond!
ENVIRONMENTAL SCATOLOGY
12:30-4:00 am
Ever tasted blood?... Ever run your hand through
warm guts?... Well I have... don't feel like nothin.'
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TUESDAYS
PEST CONTROL
11:00-1:00 pm
Whether it's plague-spreading rodents, paranoid
schizophrenic parents, or just a case of fire ants
in your futon, host Don Cerveza has a remedy
for all pests. Music...
BLOOD ON THE SADDLE
1:00-3:00 pm
Every second Tuesday, music to scrape the cow-
shit off your boots to.
THE ORAL DAVE RADIO SHOW
3:00-5:00 pm
—There are no quick and easy answers—
RECTAL RECTITUDE
5:30-8:00 pm
My limp body was covered with the excrement
of a thousands dogs—my brain had been soaked in the urine from 100 pus-infested penises—
my toenails had been peeled off and paint stripper brushed on the naked flesh—my nostrils had
been stuffed with decaying flesh—my ears had
been plugged with the sounds of screeching
pigs—at last I had become an American—true,
strong and FREE.
STUFF
8:00-9:30 pm
Julia and Lisa do a show called Stuff. It's poetry
with a post-modern bent.
WEDNESDAYS
THE CLASSICAL SHOW
7:30-10:00 am
A variety of musical styles ranging from the early Medieval to the 20th Century. All styles will be
discussed with historical importance. Requests
taken. Hosted by Wolfgang J. Ehebald.
* PAULA TAKES LIBERTIES
1:00-5:00 pm
So Where's all my fan mail?
THE LIONS DEN
5:15-5:30 pm
Neil Davis will interview players, coaches and
special guests on The Lion's Den. There will also
be a trivia contest, the prizes being gift certificates for the Fogg 'n Suds Restaurant.
THE AFRICAN SHOW
8:00-9:30 pm
The latest in modern African dance music plus/
minus a few oldie but greats and extras. Your way
we come every Wednesday at 8:00. Information
—News as they come at 8:30 pm. Possible
special features at 9:00. Your host: Umerah P.
Onukwulu. Welcome.
THURSDAYS
ANOTHER KIND OF WEDNESDAY
7:30-10:00 am
Ever feel like you've slept-in 24 hours too long?
Maybe this Killpigge fellow inhabits his own time
zone, or universe for that matter.
STACY'S SHOW
1:00-3:00 pm
What will happen will happen!
GREEK WEEKLY REPORT
5:15-5:30 pm
Brothers Pi, Gamma and Delta will be bringing
you all the information on what is happening inside the Greek Society at UBC. Everything from
sports & social information to the Greek tune of
the week, as well as the Greek personal columns
will be heard each week.
THE VINYL FRONTIER
5:30-8:00 pm
The Spinlist will never be the same again! Tune
in. Turn on. Drop out.
THE CAN-CON JOB
9:00-11:00 pm
Two hours of current Canadian acts with a marked propensity to play local bands. Hosted by
Deded the Dedhed.
EXHIBITIONISM
Midnight-3:30 am
"Sarcasm is the root of all evil."
(Langley Strood)
Campus Stylus: Matt Richards.
FRIDAYS
FRIDAY MORNING MAGAZINE
7:30-10:30 am
The re-emergence of New Souls. Sacred Dates,
Times, Points in History. Overthrowing history.
Plus what's going on in Vancouver.
06 Nov.    New Danse Profile: The infrastructure
of 'Le groupe de La Place Royale'.
Aboriginal Rights Week—in context. Continuing
a focus on the New Music/New Danse series:
interviews with the performers. U2 B-Sides. A
retrospective of the 1987 Vancouver Film Fest.
13 Nov.     Interview: Chris Chreighton Kelly (on
politics and media). Wynton Marsalis
—a profile.
20 Nov.    Dancers in Transition: A profile of the
Dancer Transition Centre. More news,
reviews and music. Also: A profile of Danse
Classes available in Vancouver.
27 Nov.    More info later.
TRIBES AND SHADOWS
10:30-11:30 am
A program that explores "New Consciousness."
Dreams, myths, cultures and rituals all take context, bridging the gap between Dark and Light.
Featuring the innovative, the eclectic and the stirring diversities inherent in the musical fabric of
our world. Hosted by Kirby Hill.
06 Nov. Dance in context—Karen Jamieson,
Kirk Elliott and Jeff Corness discuss
the collaborative process.
13 Nov.    A creative look at the Gits'an Wet'su-
weten Land Claims issue.
20 Nov.    Randy Raine-Reausch on recent travels in Korea and Asia.
27 Nov.    Jack Duncan, with new musics from
Senegal and surrounding regions.
EXPO 66
1:00-2:30 pm
Hey, Dad. Host Dean Paul Kennedy's puttin'
down. You pickin' up? Better get hip, Dad, real
no tomorrow style, you dig? Wow.
NARDWUAR THE HUMAN
SERVIETTE PRESENTS...
2:30-3:00 pm
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FRIDAY
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TRIBES AND
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RECTAL
RECTITUDE
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MEL BREWER
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EXHIBITIONISM
CRAPSHOOT
INTERFERENCE
CRACK
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WEEKDAY REPORTS
SATURDAY REPORTS
8:00
10:00
1:00
3:00
5:00
MAJOR NEWS/SPORTS
NEWSBRIEF
NEWSBREAK
NEWSBRIEF
MAJOR NEWS/SPORTS
Noon
6:00
MAJOR NEWS/SPORTS
SATURDAY EVENING
MAGAZINE
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6:00 SUNDAY MAGAZINE
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•Bob's Your Uncle
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Criminal
•54-40
Show Me
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Here Cum Germs
Anagram
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Psonic Psunspot Virgin
•Lee Perry & Dub Syndicate
Jungle
On-U Sound
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Seattle
Virgin
•Cabaret Voltaire
Code
Capitol
•Big Black
Songs About Fucking
Blast First
•R.E.M.
Document No. 5
I.R.S.
•Ramones
Halfway to Sanity
WEA
•Various Artists
Kick It! Def Jam Sampler
Def Jam
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Night Train  Contempo
•Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper
Bo-Day-Shus!!!
Enigma
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Ten Deadly Kisses
Play It Again Sam
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Crosswinds
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The Sound of Music
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Addiction
Nettwerk
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Frank's Wild Years
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Arbos
ECM
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Heart Throb Companion
Bongo Sunrise
•DAF
The Gun
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Give Me Convenience...
Fringe
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Altan
Green Linnet
•Bleached Black
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Relativity
•The Three Johns
Never and Always
Abstract
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Sea Hunt
Enigma
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Cemetery Og
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can turn off the radio. You can make your opinions heard. But you must realize, Nardwuar and
Cleopatra von Flufflestein are only trying to help
you attain these goals. They are your friends.
INTERFERENCE
6:00-9:00 pm
Mozart was a Freemason.
CRACK RHYTHM
9:00-midnight
A large, messy, enigmatically entertaining eve-
ing program, highlighting the hefty sounds of
exotic beats and the malicious chunk of modern
funk, with constant and current info on the Vancouver alternative music scene supplied by those
who should know. Hastily hosted by Robert Shea.
LOUIS LOUIS
Midnight-4 am
"The revenge of..." bullshit. They took away my
on-air phone-line, so NOW what do I do???
(to the sounds of sighs and relief in the background...)
WEEKEND HIGHLIGHTS
SATURDAYS
THE SATURDAY EDGE
8:00 am-noon
Winter is fast approaching, and your intrepid host
Steve Edge has to brave the cold mornings to
bring you this show at 8 a.m. (I didn't mind during the Summer, but it wasn't cold then. I didn't
think 8 a.m. existed on Winter mornings.) Nevertheless, it has to be done! From 8 till 9 you'll hear
an unusual mix of roots music from around the
world. Next comes some classic British comedy,
featuring "Beyond the Fringe." Then it's on to
"The Edge On Folk" from 10 to 11:30. Features
during the month will include a look at some of
the incredible concerts scheduled for our fair city,
plus the following:
07 Nov. The Edge continues to look at independent record labels and their contribution to the folk scene. This week, Joe Boyd's Hannibal & Carthage labels, with Fairport rarities, and
lots of Richard Thompson, Sandy Denny, etc.
14 Nov.  Cityfolk from New Zealand, and a host
of antipodean stuff.
21 Nov. This week, Redwood Records, Holly
Near's California-based women's music label. Also a feature on Bluegrass superstars,
The Good 'Ol Persons, who will be at the Savoy
tomorrow night.
28 Nov. A sample of many styles of "folk"
music found on the European continent, Sweden, Holland, Bulgaria, Spain, Italy,
France, Norway, Rumania, Hungary and offshore to Iceland!
At 11:30 The Edge On Soccer gives you the very
latest scores from the U.K. and soccer news from
around the world. At 11:45 thrill to the continuing saga of the Compleat Monty Python, adapted
for radio by the Bicycle Repair Man.
POWER CHORD
Noon-3:00 pm
Vancouver's only true metal show, featuring the
underground alternative to mainstream metal:
local demo tapes, imports and other rarities, plus
album give-aways.
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3:00-6:00 pm
New time slot. New clothes. New plants. I'll get
my fertilizer together by next month. Promise.
SATURDAY EVENING MAGAZINE
6:00-6:30 pm
Featuring news, sports, weather, Insight, Generic
Review, Today in History, Across the Atlantic.
THE MEAN TIME
6:30-9:00 pm (sometimes)
Lodged between the flight paths of the UBC
Thunderbirds, Paul Funk presents music by
which to dodge guano. Watch your step, please.
NOCTURNES
9:00-midnight
The sound of things that go bump in the night.
Host: Paul C.
SUNDAYS
MUSIC OF OUR TIME
8:00-Noon
Modern 20th Century classical music ranging
from the tonal to the avant-garde. Commentary
on the historical, technical and latest fashions
with regards to all genres. Requests taken. Your
host, Wolfgang J. Ehebald.
THE ROCKERS SHOW
Noon-3:00 pm
Reggae, Rock Steady and Ska. At 1:30, Reggae
Beat International Hour: news and interviews
about Reggae music worldwide. Host: George
Barrett.
BLUES CITY SHAKEDOWN
3:00-4:30 pm
Finally, a tasty Blues show again on CITR. Everything from early Delta Blues to Chicago Urban
Blues to contemporary blues-influenced rock.
And anything in between. Tune in weekly to get
your shot of the blues. Your host: Mike Dennis.
THE WAY WE SEE IT
6:30-7:00 pm
Join the CITR News Staff as they discuss a week
of events and issues, causes and consequences.
Learn all there is to know about a world of happenings, as each reporter gives story details and
discusses its implications.
PLAYLOUD/THIS IS NOT A TEST
9:00 pm-Midnight
"The void beyond the planes where chaos reigns
and form abideth not." Abdul Alhazred
Aural surgery performed by Larry Thiessen.
LIFE AFTER BED
Midnight until Barry drools...
01 Nov.    The return of Las Vegas nite, with
hosts Dean Martini and Trini Lopez.
08 Nov.    Live from the vent. Hosts the Bare-
man, Guido, and Garnmaster introduce those of you unfamiliar with the thrill, to the
joys of chlorine. With a profile on the head ven-
tor (next to Ray Charles), Warren Zevon.
75 Nov.    A night with Don King's brother, B.B.
King. Plus visits from some B.B.'s
Blues Buds.
22 Nov.    Live from the Hotel Kits. You have
been warned.
GOOD SELECTION OF
OVERCOATS & LEATHER
Past and Present
Resale Clothing
for men and women
jewelry, shoes, hats
Collectable toys
875-0621    I
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NOVEMBER  1987    29 The human body is a cesspool of
bacteria, it's true. Take anything
from your body—hair, toenail, spit,
whatever—then look at it under a
microscope. Yuk, will wonders never cease?
As soon as you touch another being, you
pick up bacteria. Sex is a good way to touch
some real nasty bacteria.
We have a wonderful education system.
Most children learn at school how babies are
made and maybe how to prevent their birth
(the cheapest method currently being promoted is celibacy). But most children learn
their attitudes from their parents before they
even get to school: sort of a generation gap
echo. Censorship and narrow-mindedness
prevent them from getting the real information until they're too old or too messed up to
believe anything that their peer group does
not also believe. Ignorance festers misunderstanding.
Much of our information comes from
television which is often false or misleading.
Those who are visually literate are aware of
the misrepresentation and (hopefully) are
attempting to inform others. Sex sells. If at
all possible, a manufacturer will use it to sell
his product. Yet we face the very real danger
of a slow, ugly death should we partake. It's
this kind of tension that makes things snap.
There are alternatives to the Lifestyle we're
being fed by the mass media. Throughout
history, Homo Sapiens has survived by
learning to adapt to disease. Today, new
traditions are created by bureaucracy.
It is possible to have a lifelong monogamous relationship. It can even be enjoyable.
Being in love is not a prerequisite to getting
married. In some cultures where marriage is
arranged, social survival hinges upon one's
ability to learn to love another person or at
least learn to respect them and their needs.
Sex can be secondary in our lives. Science
has proven that the Lover's Leap out-of-
control type of romantic love lasts no more
than two years. Hardly a lifetime.
Currently, popular periodicals are selling
copy by flaunting people's complaints about
relationships. There has always been dissatisfaction, but now, more than ever, we're
talking about it in public. It is possible to use
this openness to develop a working line of
communication which will better our understanding of sexuality and relationships. If you
want a world at peace, you'd best begin with
your heart.
Points:
1. a. Legal to do, illegal to film?
1. b. Illegal to do, legal to film?
2. Where do babies really come from? Baby
movies?
3. What's the next newfangled disease? (Eat
lots of garlic.)
"My words by a whisper —your deafness a
SHOUT. I may make you feel, but I can't
make you think. Your sperm's in the gutter—
your love's in the sink." (Ian Anderson)
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