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Charge by Phone: 280-4444 SNIFFY VS. "THE SKINHEAD"
Dear Airhead,
Re: But Was it Art? (February 1990) There are a couple of
things I would like to clarify:
1: What is this writers (sic) problem
with making personal judgements
on someones (sic) appearance to
quote "...art school punk" and "...the
skinhead..." Well guys I am the
"skinhead" in the article. I am extremely pissed off that someone
has the fucking audacity to make a
judgement upon someone else.
There are punks in Seattle who look
a (sic) scary as possible ihen go
around doing nice things forpeople!
They try to change the general
publics (sic) perception of other
people. Also the other people mentioned in the article were either male
or female and there was nothing
else mentioned about their occupation or looks. But myself and a few
others were reduced to pa wns in the
article by debasing us to further
your means. Which by the way
probably made my comments
worthless because I was a "skin-
2: Animal Rights Activists stole, or
allegedly stole the rat crushing
apparatus. Not confiscated the stuff
as mentioned by the media.
3:1 think the media AND people at
large totally missed the point that
Rick Gibson was trying to make.
He called the rat Sniffy. The most
cute name imaginable. He played
upon emotions by making you wait
so long that you almost burst with
anticipation. Then he left you in a
very frustrating lurch.
He rented the rat. Come off it
people, if was really going to do it
then he wouldhave bought the thing.
Besides the public knew beforehand that he had rented it. So by
being so blind to that fact you became part of a performance peice
(sic)/escapade.
4: Those of you who are wondering
about the leather jacket well..let
me mention an atrocity that is done
to animals for the sake of an "easier" "fun" life and see if you are also
as hypocritical as myself. The Shrin-
ers in conjunction with the firefighters have "allegedly" run experiments where animals are
wrapped in gauze, soaked with lighting fluid, then ignited, just to see
what the outcome is. These tests are
just one example ofthe experiments
Here are some products that
we as consumers buy in order to
have an easier lifestyle. Buying
leather products, Kraft, Burger
King, Wendy's, eating tunafish,
wear cosmetics, including:
hairdyes, toothpaste, underarm
deoderant. Basically we live in a
society where what you buy supports other peoples (sic) habits. Not
just by buying a product but also
where you buy it from.
5: One last thing. To quote: "...he
turned and ran, which, as any animal behaviorist could have told him,
was exactly the wrong thing to do."
Animal behaviorism also do cruel
animal experimentation.
Besides, Rick Gibson could
also be considered an animal behaviorist. But this time the experiment was on you. Also, did you
expect him to just stand there while
some 200 or so people beat the shit
out of him? Maybe we never really
left the Roman times after all.
6: Who was or is the real victim? By
losing his or her rights for a few
lousy misdirected words you have
added to the selective censorship
that the rest of the media gleefully
pour out each and every day.
Logic Bomb
P.S. I also am one of those "...art
school punks..."
P.P.S. The writer of the article seems
to "feined..." (sic) more "...Re-
aganesque aplomb..." than I will
ever do.
Madam - The most nearly coherent
of your arguments seems to be: Just
because I'm a skinhead doesn't
mean I'm a skinhead. May I point
out to you that I place no value
judgement on your hairstyle, nor
do I discount your views because of
your appearance. Quite frankly, I
don't see what you're complaining
about, since you emerge in my article as the most articulate person
present at the Sniffy non-event. If,
however, infutureyoufeelyou have
been gifted with a more direct line
to the truth than the rest of us,
perhaps you will be so good as to
treat us all to more of your circular
logic and quaint grammar. Laurel
Wellman
Checkout the Rick Gibson interview on page 26 of this issue to see
if Ms. Bomb's conclusions regarding the Sniffy incident are correct.
GLEN DOING HIS WIFE?
Dear Airhead,
Glen Campbell is alive and
well, living below us. Since his last
Christmas album, he's gone headfirst into the sauce and boasts many
a wicked bass (as in fish) on his
walls. On a more intimate note, he
makes the same sounds doing his
wife as he does taking a shit. (We
hear it through the vents.) ...Just to
keep you informed. By the way, to.
shit-draft still sucks. But it works.
Lora and Janice.
VIOLA #1
Dear Airhead,
Hey, there was an article in
the Feb. issue. Viola Funk talked of
the Town Pump with Bamff Superconductor and Mary. Wireless
headset mikes allow the singer who
plays an instrument to go nuts and
still sing - write (sic) on! and headless guitars are lighter - writer (sic)
on! Come on Bamffs no Superconductor but give the lady some credit
for initiative. Vinyl comes with a
price. Its (sic) hard to sing low
range over loud music and be heard.
Violin is hard to bring out too.
Superconductor rates A&AAA for
spontaneity and positive vibes and
smiles. I saw Mary thrice in two
Evan Symons
P.S. Grapes of Snooze make me
sleep less these days but they'll
neverforgetbeingoutdonein Prince
George by BURNDOG HYENA.
GLEEFULLY OMNIPOTENT
Dear Airhead,
The best band in the universe
is GLEE.
Blair Petrie
SNIFFY VS. I-CHING
Dear Airhead,
The following was written one
week after January 6. I have two
aftertheingestion of somel-CHING
"Hurry up Mary"
"It starts at 1:00 and I wanna be
there at least a half-hour before."
HEADLINE in newspaper in
Kelowna - ALERT - sparks of brain
activity possible outcome connec-
HEADLINE in newspaper in Vancouver read aloud by Rayma
SNIFFY - ALERT-
sparking spasms of brain sparks
ART, RATS, DEATH, BRICK,
HEAD
Not really thinking anything guys
gonna drop a brick on a rat's head Is
he just gonna do it? What's this art
shit? (I imagine its head skull being
crushed Lots of people, some very
interesting people and a circular
semi convergence, what's happening, can I see or will it be totally
obscured from my vision Nothing
walking around couple cops lots of
cameras Woman with sign Killing
isn't Art? Killing is Art Killing is
art art Talking walking someones
asking questions Here he comes/ 3
grams of speed microphones the
size of fists lots of coats leap onto
the garbage can
ACTIVITY - ACTIVITY
surgence of people ready to nip
nipping but seeming like not Ambushed by Animal Rights Activists, the rat was rented that's weird
"To Be Sold As Food For A
SNAKE" does this mean anything
Drop a brick on your own head
fucker violent? Guy gets up on the
same can is going down hey what
do you know? What do I know we
feel something nothing voyeurs hey,
he's ready to leave / O - he's human
A controversial thing is exciting,
and if you like to think about things,
may even force you to
All though my brain still vivisects
the whole thing
I will never really know till I get a
chance to talk to the artist himself.
Funny how people let a great controversial issue like this just kind of
dribble off the side-walk like a big
greeny.
Mary Ann Mitchell
-will send the no-acid version and
pictures if wanted
Thanks for sharing.
VIOLA #2
Dear Airhead,
I'm getting really sick of reading the increasingly lame "REAL
UVE ACTION" column in the
DISCORDER. What the hell is
wrong with you guys? As far as I'm
aware, the point of "Real Live
Action" is to review some gigs of
local talented bands from the past
month in Vancouver, right? It's
basically some free promotion for
up and coming and established
bands from Vancouver, right? Well
then what the hell are you doing?
First of all, the only gigs reviewed
were two music showcases, and
they were both, on the whole, quite
negative write-ups! Why did reviewer Viola Funk have to print
such shitty stuff about bands just
trying to get off the ground? They
don't need that kind of crap! Viola
Funk, you are a heartless and stupid
bitch. Your powers of hearing and
sight should be taken away from
you for a year for being so relentlessly biast (sic) and down-right
mean in your reviews. Wench... If
you must insult local bands, hell,
pick on some more established
groups that maybe deserve a bit of
criticism!!!
And while on the topic of
deservid (sic) criticism I'll take this
opportunity to voice an example:
THE SCRAMBLERS! Don't see
those guys twice within a year.
Why? Because you'll hear the exact same songs, see the exact same
moves, and see the exact same bottle
of Jack Daniels on the drum riser.
These local "bad boys" are getting
pretty damn pathetic. Every couple
o' weeks we see their name billed
for a two-nighter at the To wn Pump,
and we see the exact same stuff,
over and over and over. My friends
and I used to place bets on what
encores they'd "surprise" us with
that night... could it be "Tutti Fruiti"
(sic) or is it "Train Kept A-Rollin"?
One time I won twenty bucks. After
a few of these gigs, wagers, more
gigs and more wagers, it starts to
get pretty depressing. If the Scramblers can get the notion out of their
heads lhat they are gods of ROCK
and start writing some more great
originals, then maybe I'll even treat
Viola to the eight buck cover one
Scrambled-Friday evening.
But back to my point... A heck
of a ton of good gigs happened this
January, unfortunately they seemed
to have been overlooked by the ol'
Discorder. What happened to that
huge blaster of a show that occurred at the Cinderella Ballroom
at the beginning ofthe month? That
show featured ELEVEN local
bands, all of whom were great! Press
opportunities or what? There are
lots of great, fun, young and new
bands in this city playing all the
time! Let's start seeing more reviews and a lot more POSITIVE
support (Ms. Funk!). In the opinion
of this seasoned gig-goer's mind,
some of the best local bands that are
constantly playing around and that
are definately (sic) worth hearing
about are: CURIOUS GEORGE.
HARD ROCK MINORS, THE
SMUGGLERS, NOMEANSNO,
THE TOUCH AND GOES, THE
PICASSO SET, THE NERVOUS
FELLAS, SARCASTIC MANNEQUINS and THE SWAGMEN, to
name a few.
Support these great bands before
they die! If not for your reading
public, then do it for the bands who
must struggle very hard to make it
anywhere past a showcase in this
Thanks for the speel!
Disappointed yet hopeful,
Pete Stonderove
Pete, we could make the obvious
jokes about how "local talented
bands" is an oxymoron and how
promotion is never "free." But why
bother? However, we will take
exception to the sexist bent of your
letter, as evidenced by the use ofthe
terms "bitch" and "wench." If you
must criticise Discorder's reviewers, let's try and keep it non-gender
Why should bad or mediocre
bands get "positive support" rather
than a truthful review? It is an
interesting characteristic ofthe "alternative scene" that those involved
like to nurture new bands, but once
one "makes it" it's then open season on said band. Bands don't die
because they fail lo get "positive
support," they don't get support
because they fail to put on good live
shows. The Scramblers do whal they
do, and they do it well; people enjoy
their live shows. Unlike the majority of local bands, The Scramblers
have a large honest to goodness
following. How anyone could see
any band so many limes and expect
to see a different show each night is
beyond comprehension.
Finally, most of the groups
you mention have been reviewed in
Real Lame Action. And the February issue's Real Lame Action contained a four photo spread on the
Cinderella Ballroom gig,Nardwuar
the Human Serviette's "Oh God,
My Mom's On Channel 10" record
release party. We have raved aboul
Nardwuar s gigs previously, so we
decided to just do the photo thing
this time around.
VIOLA #3
Dear Airhead,
I was surprised and angered
to read such a negative music review in Discorder, filled with misinformation and the irrelevant personal biases of Viola Funk.
BAMFF, who played at the Town
Pump on January  7th,  are  not
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their music as "hyperbombastic
technostuff', she is entitled to her
opinion; the rest of her comments,
however, aren't even worth responding to.
Asalong-timefanofBAMFF,
I look forward to seeing them again,
and think that dedicated musicians
deserve more favourable print from
your reviewers).
Yours truly,
Peter Lipskis
Viola sincerely regrets mistaking
some ofthe other members ofBamff
for women. She was just so in awe
of all the hyper-bombastic technostuff her vision was adversely affected.
VIOLA #4
Dear Airhead
"I hate headless guitars and
telephone-operator-style mikes" -
Viola Funk, Feb. 1990. Well, I hate
headless reviewers and telephone-
operator-style writing. I have, in
my long (and sedentary) life, chuckled my way through many, oh woe,
horeseshit reviews but this, my dear
sin and madams, truly takes the
cake. Most, though not all, critics I
have alway presumed to be semi-
literate (or semi-illiterate, no difference really), one reads such
things out of boredom mostly, oh
occassionally there are little illuminations, a little, dare I say, information but rare oh so rare, let's face it,
most reviews are read while constructively engaged upon a toilet
And thank you Discorder, thank
you thank you, Ms Funk's critique
of Bamff, Superconductor andMary
was truly the ultimate in idiocy,
nay, the I shall call it a veritable
gem of ineptitude, finally, finally a
review written by a person both-
1 .Blind: Now I did not attend
the gig in question, but correct me if
I'm wrong, is not Denise Mcloud
the only woman in Bamff? Perhaps
the rest of the band grew breasts for
the occassion...
2. Deaf: My dear, dear Ms
Funk. One does not base one's
opinion of a band's music on the-
state of the afforementioned (sic)
band'sequipment.Imean,hey,what
did they play? not what they played
on... all I can gather is that they
managed to offend by being "hyper-bombastic" but as you also
describe Superconductor as being
"hyper-bombastic"... I am most
bewildered...
3.Dumb: Alex Varty's presence is NOT the criteria whereby
one judges the merits of a group of
musicians. Alex Varty bashing
seems to have it's (sic) roots in an
event that took place in 1980 or so
when Mr. Varty dared to dislike
some hard-core band that no-one
even remembers, least of all you
Ms Funk, as you were probably in
diapers at the time. What this has to
do with the Grapes Of Wrath I fail
to see as he seems to be on friendly
terms with them. Mr. Varty may be
biased (as all critics are) towards
music that meets his own particular
tastes, but I have always found him
to be honest in his opinions and
well-informed in what he chooses
to write about Which is, Ms Funk,
NOT lifestyles. NOT fashion, NOT
bullshit hype... BUT MUSIC, dear
Ms Funk, of which you know nada,
zilch, fuck-all.
Other than that, I really like
the Discorder, especially Mr. Rob
Boper who is very amusing.
Aaaahh... humor... rare indeed.
Elizabeth Fischer
Once again, Viola apologises for
mistakenly identifying some Bamff
members as women. Also, it is the
technostuff, not the hyper-bombastic qualiity per se, that Viola does
Viola should not be taken to
taskforher Alex "iheguyfromTom
Hooper of Grapes of Wrath's Alex
Varty Hate Club" Varty reference.
She took this cryptic information
from the "brilliant and underappreciated" D-Mag insert in the
January Discorder. The genesis of
the Tom Hooper/Alex Varty reference, in brief, relates to a 1982
issue ofthe Tom Hooper produced
Kelowna, B.C. fanzine "Indecent
Exposures." The fanzine contained
an ad for the infamous "Alex Varty
Hate Club." At the time, Tom was
in the punk bandGentlemen of Horror, and sported short hair and a
studded wristband. Anyone with
further information should drop us
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Dear Airhead,
I know what you're up to.
Don'tdeny it Yes.I'm talking about
advertizing, a.k.a. commercials.
You do a very good job disguising
them as "P.S.A.s" (Public Satanic
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Announcements). Now, I'm nol
against PSAs, and I don't believe in
Satan, but you play the damn things
so often! Gee, just like "regular"
radio. I know the CRTC blackmailed you into mega-PSA rotation
in return for more power, but, like,
couldn't you just sort of lessen the
assault? That's why I listen toCiTR
all the time: because it's not CFOX
/CFM I ICY. shit whatever the hell
they call themselves. Some of the
PSAs are quite good (...you're
welcome), especially the ones
where you distort the voices and
sound like maniacs, but leave a
little time for tunes, OK?
Just a couple of thing before I
go. I like all your shows. Hardcore,
pop, rap, melal, noise, ect Especially Nardwuar, Absolute Value
of Noise, Sound of Reality, Hoote-
nanny (still haven't received my
poster which I won), Paula R's
show. Jazz show, Neo-Necro-Neo-
phile II, Pest Control, and all that
house stuff. What happened to
Spike? And finally: why play so
much 70s stuff? There was some
good music back then (I'm too
young to remember), but mostly il
was crap.
Well, just had to get all of this
cleaned out from my brain. Keep up
the diversity. (Except crappy 70s
junk! We all have to hate something.)
Sincerely yours goddamn it,
Jess Templeton
Unfortunately, Jess, the P.S As are
part of the whole radio package.
Spike is no longer on the air but we
wish her well in her future endeav-
The Man Scan
by the Man Sherbet
A Monthly Overview of People Who Are Spoiling Our Fun
Is It any wonder I can't get rW of this rash?
Person In Question #1 - Red Robinson: former "rock 'n' roller,"
smarmy nostalgist.
The Beef- Red touts himself as Vancouver's Alan Freed or Wolfman
Jack. He flogs old movies and old music as though he was partly
responsible for them. He strokes the Baby Boomers for fun and profit
Advice - Drink like Freed and eat like the Wolfman. Red's inevitable
crash and burn could mean a plaque in Cleveland's Rock V Roll Hall
Person in Question #2 -
o Hall: friend of Eddie Murphy.
The Beef- The "Arse-Hall" Show, flagship of the Fox Network. When
young Arse said he would one day be a Johnny Carson, people laughed.
Now Ihe grown-up Arse is getting us all back - six nights a week!
Advice - Just one word; are you listening? Here it is - Plastics.
Person in Question #3 - Dana Zalko: models her buttocks for fitness
The Beef- Was overheard giving a retail salesperson a dressing down
because she couldn't return clearance priced goods. The former Miss
Teen Israel kept saying, "I do business my way!" Obviously this underpaid pee-on wasn't aware Dana is the Queen of Kits, with the firmest
fanny on Fourth Avenue.
Advice - Take the Zalko ministry on the road. Do those "Fat-bumer"
aerobics sessions off the back of a flatbed truck in small towns all
across our great land. Become Kitsilano's Spandex Ambassadors.
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Nardwuar: Hey little buddy!
Gilligan: What are you doing, your own little
interviews now?
N: Well, just for our own little fun radio
station, CiTR.
G: Ohh, I don't know that one.
N:WewerewonderingGilligan,orlittlebuddy,
can we call you?
G: Yes, either one.
N: Why did the Minnow sink?
G: Because it had big holes in itand I threw the
anchor over without a line.
N: Where is it now?
G: It's in Long Beach, California, I think.
N: Preserved in a museum or something?
G: I dunno, I think it's just lying in some back
lot somewhere.
N: Do you remember starring in a movie with
Nancy Sinatra, sitting cross-legged on a
beach?
G: Jeez, god, you're too young to remember
that.
N: I saw the picture in a book; you besid
Nancy. It was really arousing. What was that
like?
G: That was really fun. "The Father" was more
fun, I must say.... Okay, what is this for?
N: Actually, CiTR Radio.
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MARCH 1990 9 E THEQR
10 DISCORDER Armed only with a
tape deck, a
half-remembered "History of
Fine Arts"
course, two borrowed Game
Theory tapes and a thirst for
the Truth, last month, Discorder spoke to Miller and the
other members of his band, including former Three O'Clock
chanteuse and bass player,
Michael Quercio. "I first met
Scott when I was asked to
produce their "Distortion" EP...
I guess they thought I was a
neat guy or something." The
two remained in contact
through the intervening years
of Game Theory's college
radio cult status (thanks to a
run of terrific Mitch Easter
produced pop albums thick
with insightful lyrics, and
relentless guitars and drums),
and perpetual "next big
thingness' for The Three
O'Clock who eventually
unwound on Prince's "Paisley
Park" label.
So last year, "We were in
a situation where he didn't
have a band ... and I had this
need for a bass player,"
remembers Miller, his previous
bass player having departed,
along with the keyboard
player, and perhaps most importantly, singer/guitarist/girlfriend, Donnette Thayer. The
only remaining member was
injured drummer Gil Ray, who
had, "Spent two months flat on
my back wondering what I
could do." (Due to the injury
he can no longer play drums
for extended periods of time.)
"Scott thought I could play
guitar and keyboards...it's a
nice change, but I'm not as
confident as I was when I was
drumming."
"But he is much easier to
boss around," jokes Miller.
When asked what he was
listening to when he started
playing live shows, Miller
recalls," I had gone through
my metal phase, you know,
being extra loud, so I was
writing these bad songs. I just
shudder when I think about
them now, they had no sophistication or any thing, but the
covers we did were good...
you know, like early David
Bowie and Pink Floyd songs
from when Syd Barrett played
with them... but the Beatles'
"Sgt. Pepper's" and "White
Album" were my biggest
influence. The first was so
positive and colorful and the
"White Album" was the darkest, scariest album ever put
out, up to that point. They put
forth the idea that rock should
be kind of arty and really go
for it and not say "Well, it's just
fun.' It should be an encapsulation of experience, it should
go after these weird feelings."
So once I heard "Sixteen
Tambourines" (probably The
Three O'clock's best album) I
was feeling really good about
music. With them and Let's
Active, Mitch Easter's band,
and REM, it seemed like there
was this renaissance. But so
many sort of fizzled; it would
have been nice if they had
been the 'currency' rather
malaise in their mayonnaise ?"
he says with a small grin.
"Obviously metal does something we'll never do, it gives
instant gratification. Art has to
be part gratification and part
bettering, part trying to explain
life and make people slightly
morally correct. I know you'll
say rock can't do that, that it
would be stupid if rock tried to
do that, but I mean it in the
little way."
Lest you think Miller and
his band are totally self-
righteous and not very fun, I
will now relate a quick tale of
their behavior on stage. After
a set of old and new songs
(some co-written with Michael
Quircio), a couple of requests
dollars. It's got photos of the
band in it... none of me
though, but I look a bit like Gil
and uhh, it's got lots of photos
of Donnette in it, and you can
hold it one handed!"
Singer (leaning up to microphone)- "Yeah, it's just great
for those long lonely nights."
Talk About Fun, Eh? Now
Back to the Art.
"Donnette, my girlfriend in
the band, and I had broken up
and it was just a tremendously
devastating time in my life, but
songs came out of this near
suicidal pit of despair. So I
hate to say suffering begets
than metal, which has been
the currency for so long now."
Miller is, however, the first to
note the contradiction of such
a wish. "How can you criticize
that when I went through the
same thing with Deep Purple
and Black Sabbath. I couldn't
have listened to Big Star at
that time. But I would love to
see more people like me get
into music en masse, and get
this base of support for it.
Where would Pink Floyd be
without people who wanted a
little art in their rock, a little
from drunks in the audience,
and some switching around of
instruments which culminated
with a sloppy cover of The
Beatles' "Rain" (with Quercio,
looking about thirteen years
old, on drums), the following
exchange took place between
group leader Miller and new
drummer Jozef Becker, formerly of Thin White Rope:
Drummer (holding up glossy
album sized booklet)- "So this
has all the lyrics for all the old
records in it. It costs five
good stuff, but a lot of the time
it does. I was telling the band
the other day that it's sort of
funny to call yourself a 'good
songwriter' because any day
you choose you might not be
able to do it. After all, good
songs come from an idea;
anyone could have that idea.
So you get it and you like it,
and maybe some other people
will like it. But you did not do
anything to get that idea; it's a
matter of having led the right
life and listened to the right
music and being in that
intense frame of mind. So, in a
way, I was lucky to have been
in a lot of personal turmoil
when I wanted to write an
album that will do what I think
our next one should do."
"So we are going to have
young girls fall in love with
Scott and then we'll pay them
to leave him," quips Quircio.
However, before their next
album of new songs does
arrive in a 'store near you,' a
retrospective of their numerous releases, entitled 'Tinkers
to Evers to Chance," will be
released.
On the subject of their
records, Miller remembers,"l
just had the shakes when we
turned "Lolita Nation" into
Enigma (their record company). I thought the executives
would just be weirded out by
the little snippets between
songs despite the fact that
percentage-wise they were not
that much of the album." He
was right, folks just failed to
warm up to pieces like "Kenneth - What's The Frequency."
On their next effort, "Two
Steps From the Middle Ages,"
he allowed himself to be
talked into taking a less
elliptical approach to making a
record. The result was greeted
with even less enthusiasm by
Enigma. "We didn't get a
single or even a video," he
states incredulously. "They
decided they didn't work or
something. Basically we
should have put our foot down
a whole bunch of times." Not
too surprisingly, Miller wants
to make sure their relationship
with the label is a bit better
this time around. "We may
have to renegotiate the contract or something."
So there you go, dear
reader. You now have a
decision to make. Game
Theory ought to have an
album of new songs out this
year. The whole band has
suffered (even the Vancouver
show promoter is beginning to
be referred to as the 'long
suffering' Ed Banger, but his
suffering is only financial) so
they have a lot of material
('good stuff). It might be a
double album. It ought to
touch numerous emotional
bases for a lot of you. On the
other hand, Guns 'n' Roses
should also have a double
album out this year as well...
which one are you going to
buy?
MARCH 1990 11 Hup #3 by R. Crumb
Published by Last Gasp Eco-
Funnies
Teaser and the Blacksmith by
timothy h. glass
Published by Fantagraphics
Books
This month two of the more
interesting comix in the stores
these days. First up, the master
of the medium, R. Crumb has
released issue number three of
his very own personal comix
magazine. Hup. Crumb's obsession with the gentler sex has
not cooled since the days of
Honeybunch Kominski or Le-
nore Goldberg and her Girl
Commandos. Der Crumb'ler is
still banging together the eternal allegory in an attempt to understand and satiate his more
Martian instincts.
The first story in Hup #3
offers a typically venal attack of
self-loathing. In "The Story O'
My Life" Crumb portrays himself as a fortyish cartoonist
dressed up as a baby being
wheeled about in a perambulator. After an encounter with his
legion of fans he escapes to the
forest and spends the rem ainder
of his afternoon playing poke
the pickle with his nursemaid.
Allegory being multi-levelled, I
couldsay that Crumb is attempting here to rationalize the effect
of pop status on his fragile ego.
I could say that this story is a
bold statement pertaining to his
creative process with the nurse-
maidrcpresenting the attainable
muse. I will say that Crumb is a
wacky artiste who really just
wants to have strange sex with
lots of rules.
The second story, and the
meat in his meal, is an abridged
excerpt from Jean-Paul Sartre's
Nausea. Few modern filmmakers have captured the essence of
existentialism as Crumb does in
his portrayal of the ennui and
angst of lunch with Sartre. Here
the artwork startles the unsuspecting with referential nods to
the Post-Impressionists and
modem German film. Crumb
has done this kind o'thang before, most notably in his adaptation of Kraft-Ebbing's Psych<
Sexualis inthepagesofWeirdo.
The problem with Crumb'
telling is that his Jean Paul seems
a rather disgusting fellow. So
much for those humanitarian
awards, eh Bob?
The last two offerings of
Hup #3 are entertaining though
unsettling. In "Point The Finger" (a talkshow format) our
host offers up his very special
guest, Donald Trump. After
being kidnapped by two female
commandos Trump is abused
by Crumb and finally given a
much needed swirly (lowering
someone headfirst into a flushing toilet). Crumb puts it well
when he says, "Isn't it a nutty
knda country, where you can
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draw any irreverent, degrading
thing you want about the most
powerful people and nobody
cares! You don't go to jail,
you're notpersecuted, they just
ice you out of the marketplace."
This psuedo-catharsis
having passed, the final offering involves Mr. Natural serving up an uncomfortable diatribe on the orgasm consciousness ofthe Devil Woman which
leaves the lingering metallic
taste of cold barbed wire...and
then it's over. All told, a fairly
revealing issue of Hup from a
true master of the sequential medium, Robert Crumb.
From the insanely famous
to the inanely obscure, timothy
h. glass, an artist and storyteller
from New Zealand, has published his first comic in North
America. The comic entitled
"Teaser and the Blacksmith" is
a gentle, nostalgic tale about a
virgin's surrender to natural
passions in the atmosphere of
lingering Puritan morality that
was mid-century New Zealand,
glass states in the preface that"
Teaser and the Blacksmith" is
the story of Pan's return to a
passionless land. Finer words
so rarely written.
In a slice of small town life
circa 1956, glass weaves an old
fashioned tale of softspice and
adventure with both his hero
and an anti-hero affirming Pan's
natural laws by act three. The
Teaser in question is young
Johnny Pascoe, a stable boy
beset by a strange musical gift/
curse. The Blacksmith is Jack
McCraw, a follower of nature
who has the strength to observe
the events surrounding him with
humour and a graceful disdain.
Their muse is the young Fern
S weetapple, ajockey with ataste
for truth and a strong dislike for
rotting vegetables.
The story is charming in its
simplicity. Johnny has a rare
musical gift that threatens his
peaceful obscurity. His penis
sings popular tunes from the
Burl Ivessongbook whenever it
stands erect. To shake off the
curse Johnny must lose his virginity which is, of course, more
complex than it sounds.
There are no car chases
though there is a great horse
race. There are no gun battles
though there is a nasty scene
where Johnny gets apink-belly.
All ofthe antagonists are familiar to anyone who has grown up
in an English speaking ex-British colony. The local squire, his
wife, their henchmen, their
social allies, and the rules of
society all combine to force
themselves on Johnny and exploit his talent in various nefarious ways.
The artwork here is reminiscent of Rick Geary in its
cartoon roundness, the finely
caricatured faces and exquisitely
detailed backgrounds, glass'
inkwork is thick with well stated
emotion and offers the reader a
familiar hand from the first page
onwards. The panels do get a bit
confusing around the middle of
the book, which is no doubt the
result of a design apprenticeship not quite completed. On
the plus side, the use of silhouettes to contrast primary action
is quite unique as are the surreal
renderings used to establish the
dream sequences at the beginning and the end of the book.
Teaser and the Blacksmith is a
charming first international release from timothy h, glass, an
emerging talent of the comix
world.
An old pro from the days
of yore still pulling the chain after twenty years of trying to
flush his feelings and ayoungen
from the land of luscious green
who promises his own brand of
humour over the next twenty
years. Until next month: stay
high, fly low, and feed your
soul.
12 DISCORDER Let's talk cereal. Let me wax
eloquent here. My number ofiftt
2-_3rn_T_?r
and've sold  out,   K^loj
Commok >S
Wheat islwl
breakfast   ^ _
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of those cere^Wg-l-' of
childhood...theyBaMJ^|(|^iy
eyes as though it were just yesterday that I broke in my new set
of teeth on them. Froot Loops,
Sugar Pops, Honeycomb, Sugar
Crisp, Alpha-Bits, and at the
vanguard. Frosted Flakes. Hey,
I still use Tony the Tiger's line
in moments of extreme enthusiasm. I remember my mom sending away for this Tony the Tiger
bowl & mug set which duly
arrived a couple of weeks later.
(Canada Post still worked in
those days.) The bo wl was indestructible, flaming-orangeplas-
tic with black stripes on it: and
when I say "indestructible," I
mean it's still in the kitchen
cupboard today, black stripes
long since eradicated by detergent but still proudly, garishly
orange. Coolness.
So those were the cereals
of the '70's, of childhood, of
those blissful, carefree days of
innocence. In the *80's things
got fucked around. In two ways:
a scammy trend toward natural,
wholesome foods on the one
hand, and on the other, all-out
market saturation with the
evillest, most additive-laden
monsters the corporate slime
could concoct.
As a direct result of the
health-food craze, what I ate as
Sugar Pops at the age of four has
since been altered to "Sugar
Com Pops" and from thence to
"Corn Pops." Same exact ingredients, same exact ability to turn
the milk a phlegm yellow and
send your blood-sugar level
through the roof, only now
consumers an supposta think,
"Hey, 'Com" Pops...a wholesome, whole-grain
essential nutrients..." That's
another weird thing. Ever notice how even the pur junk
cereals claim to be a soi i of at
least 5 "essential nutrients"? Is
glucose an essential nutrient?
BHA? Carrageenan? Well,
okay, maybe carrageenan is
good for you, but still. You gotta
wonder. Anyway, I wait for the
day when those ad exec's will
just go, "Aw, what the fuck,"
and change it back to Sugar
Pops.
The same period, the early
'80's, saw the rise of a plethora
of cereals which might best be
described as "the foods most
closely resembling plastic."
Lucky Charms, Smores, Pro-
Stars (endorsed by Wayne
Gretzky), and marshmallow
ig (Formula: Take any
:n cereal, pour liquid dextrose on, and throw in predi-
gested bits of Styrofoam, et
voila.)To balance the tide of the
1 health movement, I guess, they
even came up with a sugared
J ^tf^ion of Raisin Bran, namely
Crisjft/^Wheats 'n' Raisins.
lQ^_Mifl_rahams too sprang up
out of this morass, but they're
the one hyperartificial cereal I
dig. Remember your English 10
- the Elizabethans used the word
"articial" as a compliment of
the highest order.
One fringe benefit of this
army of plasticereals was the
commercials they spawned, or
were spawned on. "I'm koo-
koo for Cocoa Puffs!" - why,
it's poetry in motion; and even
the Trix Rabbit has been immortalised by Public Enemy.
Can't argue with that.
Back to reality. There v
the time, preparing to leave for
Save-On at Metroworld, I
shouted down the hall to one of
my roommates, "I'm going to
Hell. Do you want me to pick
you up any Life?" An eatworthy
cereal to be sure, stupid commercials notwithstanding.
Small Cereals. They're
cool. The gods were smiling
upon me and my brother on the
rare occasions my mom would
consent to buying us one of those
Kellogg's Multi-Paks. Then
there'd be a convoluted debate
over who got which sugared
cereals and who was stuck with
All-Bran. The only other time
we might be blessed with a Small
Cereals visitation was on vacations, if we ate breakfast in a
greasy spoon or an Esso Wayfarer. Jeez, I haven't had the
pleasure of a Small Cereal since
Idunnowhen. I'll have to blast
my self back to childhood one of
these days.
Cheerios. Cheerios are
Goddess. There's something
about them, some magical ingredient, maybe a controlled
substance, that coats your spoon
in a sortof powdery scum, makes
'em taste real yummy, and in all
likelihood contributes to their
staying crunchy even after sustained immersion in milk. I'll
bet I wasn't the only one who
felt small twinges of panic during that distributors' strike last
HeU'sfKitchen
year, when the familiar yellow
boxes with black lettering disappeared from supermarket
shelves for a coupla weeks.
Gives you some idea what it
must be like to live in Poland.
Maybe not.
But, in the same way that
there's nothing lip-smackinger
than Cheerios themselves, there
are few things grosser than their
cheap imitation, Toastie-O's. If
you've ever wondered what it'd
be like to eat sawdust, wonder
no longer. Go out and buy one
of those generic blue-and-yel-
low cartons and be barfified.
See, what I figure is that the
makers of the generic kind have
been unable to obtain the identity of the secret ingredient in
real Cheerios and have attempted to make Cheerios w ith-
out it. Just WON'T WORK,
guys. Plus the "O" shapes are
very crudely cut, seemingly by
some Tinker Toy Korean version of the real Cheerio-cutting
machine. Bo-gus.
Speaking of shape cereals,
Alpha-Bits are another favour- j
ite of mine that've been subtly
altered by insidious marketing ]
tactics. In the old days, they I
were plain old "Alpha-Bits," J
liberally coated in white pow- |
dered sugary stuff, making n
pretense toward nutritional re
spectability. Then  that dang '
health V fitness craze came |
along and bang!, they w<
"Golden/Doree   Alpha-Bits."
Liberally coated in white powdered sugary stuff and some
kinda  tawny   food-colouring
agent to eliminate the anemic
look. What they won't fuck
around.
On to hot cereals. These
range  from  simple,  manual-
preparation Cream of Wheat to
those chemical-laden excesses ;
known as Quaker Instant Hot
Cereals. The latter which I was
a while there, when I,
wasstilllivingathomeandMom   I
was shelling out the buckage for
the Maple & Brown Sugar variety. But when push came to
shove I abandoned it. "Simple"
Cream of Wheat actually comes
inaboutadozendifferentvarie- |
ties nowadays, from the aforementioned   regular,   manual-
preparation type on down the I
line to "Quick-Cooking," "Instant," and "Cooked 3 Nanoseconds Ago." You end up with I
basically the same thing any- f
way ("eine vorscht," as we say  |
in Low German): a good, solid,  |
white cud-like substance that,
anointed with milk and brown I
sugar,   is   transformed   into |
manna. You either love it
hate it. There's no middle ground I
with Cream of Wheat.
Same thing with porridge, j
I've already raved about Mom's ,
rendition thereof so I won't say I
no more, but it occurs to me that
it must have been for porridge U
that the term "rib-sticking"i
invented. Porridge is like the I
kid who, "When she was good, I
she was very good, but when
she was bad, \
she...was...Horrible..."
An interesting historical ,
cereal footnote. The inventor ofl
Kellogg's cereals was also a 1
fanatical anti-masturbation lob- I
byist who advocated female f
emasculation to cure girls of
this unseemly vice. And I eat his ;
Com Rakes. I tell ya.
So. Cereal rules. It's
most important component of a
sustaining breakfast and, in all
its plentitudinous variety, damn
nigh   impossible   to   tire   of.
There's something very com- i
forting about a round-full bowl I
of cereal drenched in ice-cold I
dioxin-laden   milk   between I
yourself and the day (or night) I
ahead Heck, may be I' 11 even go I
out and buy a boxa Cap'n  |
Crunch.
f* *d
MARCH 1990 13 2 urrently on tour to promote
fl The The's "Mind Bomb"
I j^P, Johnny Marr finds him-
n the awkward posi-
Ibn of touring with a new
JTyet being asked about his former
group. Although Marr left The Smiths
in 1987, citing the ubiquitous defecting
band member reason of creative and
personal constraints, he is still asked to
relive the glory days and break-up of
the band he left behind. While Morrissey is still in Manchester, posing, pondering and pontificating, apparently,
Marr has become a member of Matt
Johnson's The The.
Last month, Marr appeared on the
cover of Guitar Player magazine, a
place seldom reserved for musicians
without gratuitous amounts of makeup,
hairspray and spandex. He even received a mention in that bastion of
respectability. Rolling Stone magazine.
And this past month he spoke to
Discorder.
How long have you been on tour?
We started the tour in May last year and
we took a break for 2 months and now
we're going back out So it's almost
like being on a new tour, really.
How is it being on tour this time?
Oh, fantastic, I really love it.
How has the response been?
Really good, really good. Everything's
been going exactly to plan, better than
we imagined, really. Personally I'm
having a really good time, touring wise,
'cause the last couple of Smiths tours
weren't such a good time, and it kind of
put me off touring a little bit. But eve
rybody's having such a good time it's
given me some encouragement. I'm
really optimistic now about touring;
it's great, I really love it
Is it quite different touring with The
The than it was with The Smiths?
Yeah, it is. One thing is that we feel like
we're anew group which is quite good;
the novelty of us all playing together is
still quite strong. And everybody wants
to be on the road; it's not one of these
things where we have to tour or we're
tired, or we need a break or stuff which
happened toward the end ofThe Smiths'
career. There are a couple of tours we
just shouldn't have done, but you just
kind of get involved in the whole roll of
things. This is different because we
don't have to do it It's great
How do you feel the audience is reacting? Are they coming to see
Johnny Marr, ex- of The Smiths, or
The The?
I think, to be honest it is a little bit of
both. There are plenty of people who
have wanted to see Matt for a long, long
time, myself included. There are some
Smiths fans who do come along to see
me, but after the very first song they
realize it's a The The gig in every sense
of the word, and I'm a member of The
The. And I think they sort of settle in
and enjoy it a little more.
Do you see any similarities in The
Smiths and The The; a similarity in
say the "brooding genius" types of
Morrissey and Matt Johnson?
That's good if you see that
Did you do this intentionally?
Well, the thing is, I can't really get
involved with anybody who's not as
intense about what they do as I am
about my guitar playing and writing.
Both Morrissey and Matt are incredibly intense as people, both are incredibly obsessed with lyrics and what they
do and so, there are some similarities
there, definitely. Musically it is quite
different, which is something I really
welcome. The Smiths were founded on
the Brill Building ethic, cross that with
The Ramones, and you've sort of got
what we were all about: great short,
sharp pop songs. This is a little bit more
cinematic, for want of a better word,
and the songs suit the live arena really
well.
What about the other work you have
done with The Talking Heads, Pretenders, Bernard Sumner (of New
Order): how do you view their music?
The thing is after The Smiths I really
wanted to be a session player. I make
no kind of apologies or excuses for it I
really wanted to do sessions. Mostly
because I wanted to play guitar, but I
really didn't want the responsibility of
being in a group because when I'm in a
group I have to be obsessed, I have to
be obsessed about the music and about
the other player. And that sometimes
feels a little dangerous because it's
easy to get hurt or hurt people because
it's really a close thing. So with this it's
like here I go again because it really
does feel like a group and my role with
other people is fulfilled totally with
The The.
You have been quoted as saying that
you were surprised and flattered by
the offers you received after The
Smiths broke up.
Well, of course I really had to look. I
was public enemy # 1 in England for a
couple of years and that was okay. But
I had to look at the worst kind of scenario when I left The Smiths and that
was, would I be prepared to go back on
the dole and go pretty much back to a
life of obscurity. That was an incredibly attractive proposition for me at the
How could you have thought that
would be the outcome? The Smiths
were a very big band.
Well, I didn' t expect it but I really had
to look at it. I had to look at things in the
worst possible scenario. I really did
feel, in a sense, that it was really difficult but it was like committing career
suicide, kamikaze career move. But
it's worked out okay because I really
did believe I was doing the right thing
for everyone else as well as myself. I'm
still quite defensive about it because I
know what The Smiths meant to everybody, but I see the rest of the band now,
on and off, and everyone seems really
happy. So it must have been a really
great move.
Do you still have a good friendship
with Morrissey?
No, I wouldn't say a good friendship.
We're not enemies. I don't see Morrissey. I occasionally send him the odd
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Do you like the music he has done since
The Smiths?
Yeah, I do like his new music. I think
the best stuff is yet to come, because I
really know what he is capable of. I
think he'll find his feet with the right
partner. I really liked "Suedehead" and
I really like "Life of the International
Playboys."
Do you have the chance to work in a
50/50 way with Matt Johnson the
way you did with Morrissey?
Oh yeah. The thing is with Matt when
the time came to put together a band he
initially thoughthe wanted to get people
who were as good at doing what they
do as he is. He wanted to get the best
drummer in the world, the best guitar
player, but what has really happened is
that the group is so right at this point in
time because there is no compromise.
For me to be in a group is almost like a
relationship. For a relationship to be
perfect you shouldn't have to compromise. And all tlie group's personal
ambitions and aspirations are all kind
of in sync. For instance, James Elliot
loves being the bass player in The The,
everything he wants to do as a bass
player and a person is fulfilled in this
group. And I'd say that's the same for
all of us really. So I don't feci compromised in the slightest. Especially as I
really joinedMatt to be the j'uitarplayer
more than a writer.
Do you see yourself tir ng of The The
and moving on to do other things,
maybe a solo project?
Well, the only way to be in a group
properly is to be obsessed, and the only
way we can all really work at the
moment is to have the opinion that
we're going to stay together forever.
We really do see it as a long term thing
and I'm going to stay. It's the first
question most people ask me because
I've flitted around and played with lots up full ofp
my ands
With Lisa Christiansen
ople who are all burned out,
ild just get out ofthe way..."
of people in -Hast couple of years I've
been too busy and didn't want to make
my own record, but I've got a strong
musical family, as it were, with Kirsty
Macoll and Bernard and so on, and I
hke to make records so maybe this year
I'll do one of my own.
Could you see yourself putting together a kind of "Super Group" of
musical friends?
Honestly, no way. Because the way I
see it, my options have been narrowed
and narrowed. The The The tour has
been such good fun that I really do feel
like I've been involved in the 2 great
English 4 or 5 piece rock groups of the
1980s. If I was going to do my own
record I would want to do something
different
It's great because there isn't that
much pressure on me to follow Morris
sey. I might do something slightly instrumental. Because I don't really have
this desire to sell millions and millions
of records. Or go out and promote it
because I really love The The. That's
the thing with Electronic (collaboration with Bernard Sumner). I can see
how people could see it that both of us
are successful and known, people could
imagine it as a conceptual supergroup.
If anything, it's the opposite because
both of us, Bernard and myself, like to
make records but don't like the fuss
that goes along with it. Because Bernard has it with New Order and I have
it with The The. It's just an exercise of
two friends getting together to make
records, like disco.
The single we have out right now
is just like a disco record. And I hate to
use the word hobby because we take
the music very seriously, we don't just
bang it down, we spent a long time with
the Electronic thing, but it really is
something we did for our own enjoyment And we haven't even got a deal
out of it. That's kind of the extent that
we're just into it for music.
Do you hope to make the same sort of
impact with The The that you did
with The Smiths? Sort of legendary
status?
Not really. With that comes its own
inherent kind of problems. I think we
are already reaching the audience we
warn to reach. We really don't want to
be the next U2 or the next Smiths.
Another thing is that Matt' s been going
on his own right for about 10 years.
And no, it's a different kind of impact
I'm a little bit older now as welL
Are you less nervous touring now?
Oh yeah. Much less nervous. I'll have
to see how the next few gigs go, butl'm
less nervous and there's less pressure
to be this legendary group or have a
legendary event go on. We're really
into just being intense for an hour or
hour and a half and letting people make
up their own minds.
What are the differences in the music
scene between England and North
America?
Well, there are vast differences. The
main thing is that in England a lot of
groups make records specifically for
the music press. This isn't just an
English problem, but a lot of groups
write their review before they write the
song. Which is a real shame. Everything is geared to the end result.
Also, the musical politics of who
I work with in England I find really
retarded and juvenile because the politics of me working with Matt Johnson
or with Brian Ferry consume people to
the point that they don't even hear the
record.
And I'm careful. I've seen English musicians come to America and
say "I love this place I'm going to stay
here."There are some great things about
the English scene, but there are vast
differences. One good thing is that a
group like Happy Mondays from
Manchester can get on 'Top of the
Pops." A really healthy thing.
Smaller bands do have a better shot
at making it in England than in North
America. Here you have to really
pay your dues.
Yeah, you do. This isn't just in music,
it extends to all forms of life. In England, the English always like to champion the underdog. They really do. I'm
sure its just a natural human thing. But
in England it's not just a question of
building you up to knock you down but
once you get successful you have to
really fight hard just to keep your place
there.
In England it's a far more inspiring situation where as in America
someone can have a hit record in 1972
and by the very fact that they were
successful, they stay successful. And I
think that's awful, really. It means that
the whole music industry is clogged up
full of people who are all burned out
and have said what they were going to
say and should just get out of the way.
The people involved in the music industry just try and keep this whole
thing going; a really patronizing attitude towards modem musicians.
Whereas if you weren't there in the
'60s, man, you really missed out, nothing of any value has happened since the
'60s. Or outstretched punk rock. That
means nothing to me and it means
nothing to kids of IS. And the reason
people keep that myth going is that it's
all their age group. The thirtysometh-
ings. It's in their interests.
What about retro-trend? In Vancouver several of our major radio
stations are dedicated only to '60s
and '70s music.
I think that's really dull and boring, its
making modem music vaudevill ian. It's
going to create a generation gap between the thirty somethings and the next
generation. I 'm really sick of it. Speaking as someone who is quite well-
grounded in the traditions of pop music, you know. The Smiths were formed,
for me anyway, on stolen songs. I'm
really aware of that Butpersonally I'm
really tired of young men trying to act
like old men; it's actually worse than
old men trying to act like young men. I
see U2 with B.B.King and, oh my God,
you know B J. .King must be so pleased.
(laughs) I mean, "Thanks U2,"They 're
an easy target because they are the
biggest band in the world, and that's a
bit of a cheap shot but you know, I'm
26 and I live in 1990 and I find it
incredibly flattering that people kind of
assume that I like the idea of being last
in a long line of guitar heroes. It's quite
an achievement butl really don't want
anything to do with that nonsense. It
has very little to do with music to me.
And very little to do with modem style.
I find people assume that I want that
because it seems like the highest accolade you can give to a guitar player.
Did you feel strange, then, appearing
on the cover of Guitar Player magazine?
No, not at all. I think I should be on the
cover of all guitar magazines. Because
I think it's far better than some guy in
some stupid outfit in his cock-rock
posturing. It's a shame. I think there
should be more guitar players like me
around.
Do you think it's more inspiring to
guitar hero wanna-be's to see you?
Well, it's more inspiring if you just
play great music. I know that's an
obvious answer but this whole guitar
culture is such an anachronism it's
unbelievable. It's got nothing to do
with music, and very little to do with
the kids I know. There are plenty of
heavy metal fans and it's exclusively
boys music, all in celebration of being
a boy. And women just don't come into
it unless it's some kind of derogatory
imagery. I'm not saying anything new
here, but I'm not unique in that I've
been brought up really closely with a
sister. I just hate that whole sexism trip.
It's awful and I really don't want to be
included in any of that nonsense.
What do you listen to and/or read on
your own time?
At the momentl'm reading Gore Vidal,
I think he's really good. And I listen to
groups like Fatback, that sort of early
70s funk. And Ohio Players, Jimi
Hendrix, some blues, Howlin* Wolf,
New Order I really like, Happy Mondays.
Are you inspired to write m usic from
other works or is it just from your
own head?
Yeah, it is nowadays. When I first
started out I was inspired by a lot of
people's work. Nowadays I just want
to do something a bit more "from
within." It sounds kind of corny, but
that's really where I'm at the moment.
I try to be a lot more natural about it
and less strategic.
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And now, this month's demos in
review...
The Worst-"The Creepy
Thing" This demo, while abysmally recorded, is far from justifying the band's name. My
first reaction was that, with a
little work. The Worst could be
a garage band, but really all the
elements are already here: those
snarling but somehow basically
happy vocals, the distorted guitar, the heavy-handed butcatchy
riffs. There's a good song here
to be dug up from under all this
bad production.
Knight Child-"How Does It
Feel" I can't resist mentioning
that the band's from Surrey, and
a lot of cliches do spring to mind
here. This is the group's ballad,
I suppose, complete with a thin
and synthetic keyboard break,
quavery singing, and, later on, a
pretty standard softer metal-
variety guitar solo. KnightChild,
apparently, is not a band that is
familiar with alternative mu-
Super Caustic Fertilizer-
"Sweating Bullets" I saw these
guys February 6th at the Arts
Club's last evening of bands,
where they had a hard time
warming up the audience. Unfortunately this demo isn't especially inspiring either. Sure,
they're loud and fast, but lots of
other bands have been too, over
the last ten or so years. Still,
being only a couple of months
old right now, Super Caustic
Fertilizer has plenty of time to
develop a sound.
Greenhouse-"Dive" At last, a
demo from former members of
Brilliant Orange and the
French Letters and so on and
so on....   Jay and Graham are
two of the best singers in Vancouver, and it's their harmonies
that are so memorable, both in
live performances and on this 6-
song tape. With the exception
of lots of noise, this band just
about has it all - Greenhouse's
songs are obviously the product
of especially talented songwriters andmusicians. "Dive," while
perhaps themoststriking of their
songs (the backing vocals always make it stand out from the
rest of their set), is just one of
many successful collaberations.
Picasso Set-"Yummy" (cassette single) One or two of these
songs have already been play-
listed at CiTR as demos, but
now this 3-song tape is available in stores at an encouragingly low price. On the negative
side (not including the fact that
one of the songs, "Love's Train
Wreck," gets its title misspelled
- in two different ways - on the
cover and the cassette itself,
since after all no-one probably
noticed but me), the make-it-
yourself tape cover lets the cassette slide right out of it (even if
you are careful to follow the
English instructions for assembly), and people who've never
cared for Picasso Set's penchant
for name-dropping are bound to
be unhappy with this product.
But on the positive side, this
generally undernoticed band has
good catchy songs and a vintage
pop sound like nobody else's
around here. My favourite song
is still "Somebody Girl," especially for its keyboard riff, although the recording doesn' t do
justice to Dave's voice and the
female backing vocals perhaps
aren't quite as well-planned as
they could be. I hope this cassette single idea catches on - it's
a good cheap way to own a
decent tape of a local band. Love Battery
Tankhog
Mudhoney
Town Pump
Monday, February 12th
"Okay, so, like,
Mudhoney. Town Dump, night
of February 12th. A Monday. I
stride past a patient line-up of
ticket purchasers on my way in.
Amazed, as often, at how incredibly huge a city Vancouver
must be...I mean, all these
people, and I still haven't seen a
single one I know.
"Mudhoney..." said Julie
thoughtfully over thedishes. "...I
kinda like that name..."
A lot of people obviously
like more than just the name. Or
used to, and are putting in an
appearance here merely for the
sake of being able to say, "Yeah,
I saw Mudhoney live..." - Me
among them. Looks like everybody and his hair has turned up
for this. Even Hooker-Women
of the Roxy.
Quarter past ten and we
the quote. After the fact too, I
am told that this is aband who'll
kill me if I don't give them a
good review.
"Short-Man Syndrome run
amok," I scribble, apropos of
their lead singer "...in the best
possible direction, I guess."The
hairshakers congregating on the
floor are somewhat greater in
number and somewhat less peristaltic than those who materialised for Love Battery. In fact,
by the endof their set the floor's
dang near covered in them. Said
set is perpetrated upon us by
one bass, two guitars, drums,
and vocals courtesy of a singer
fresh outta Chi Pig High. Inject
a little time-warp and these guys
could've done the soundtrack to
Easy Rider, such is their bombastic sonic barrage. They play
a Dolls cover; introduce one
number with "This song is all
about beer consumption...and
the acts that follow"; seem to
havealargecontingentof groupies; and play an interminable
have music. I'm launched into a
foul mood for Love Battery's
set by being told by a dickwad
of a bouncer to stand up rather
than sit on the steps. '86 Street
revisited. But hey, they're not
as bad as I'd been warned; I'm
more or less groovin' to it. Lots
and lotsascritchy guitar sounds,
the kind that get right up between your legs and gnaw at
you, even if delivered between
fits of verbal Mudhoney ass-
licking from Lead Singer Man.
Good name too. The band play
a half-hour set and then make
way for Tankhog.
About whom I write in my
little black book, "Oh, so this is
what all the Roxy hookers came
to see," causing me no end of
bewilderment later when I find
set, I guess to make up for Love
Battery's brevity. "Tankhog
were just - Tankhog," in the
words of a friend, but for all
that can't say I didn't like 'em.
(Remember, at this point I still
hadn't heard that warning.)
Hey! Are we talking
Mudhoneydom here?!? Not as
much hair as I expected.
(Though after Superconductor,
could there ever be?) But down
there on the floor - hordes a
thrashing hair! Stage diving galore! Objects being flung onstage! And from the band -
Stupid jokes about Teamsters!
Fastbacks covers! A gratifying
rendition of 'Touch Me I'm
Sick"! (Gratifying not so much
in its execution, but in my ability by this time to empathise
with the sentiments therein.)
Eckcetera. Mark Arm sneers
from the top of the steaming
grungemeisters' heap, "They're
not quite as grunge-y as we are,
but..." (referring to the opening
bands), and very adeptly mocks
the 'Town Pump - Live!" signs
that seem to be obliterating the
wall surfaces. "Everybody!
Where are we?! - At the Town
Pump - Live!'" The band play;
they rock; and, taking severe
liberties with the English language, I scribble a note to the
effect of, "Gyrating to this nin-
compoocy."
I'll go to the Coliseum gig, I
dunno.
Viola Funk
Super Caustic Fertilizer
Dirt
Sarcastic Mannequins
Arts Club
Saturday, February 3rd
A long, leathered, rough
line-up began to form early on
that S aturday evening for "night
two" of the Arts Club's last
stand. Outside, the superrewed-
up crowd was ready to take
revenge on the management for
the cutting the power on Curious George the night before. It
was not like I was going to "bud"
my way into that line of soldiers. Arrggh!!!
So, quickly I devised an
alternate plan to sneak into the
Arts Club, and boy did I sneak -
glass from the floor. Then into
the midnight hour, complete
with zany fishnet stockings, bare
skin and a new drummer, it was
the Sarcastic Mannequins' turn
to harmoniously bellow out the
hits. Tune after tune, in the true
muffled, surfy "Clapton solo
through a Sears amp" style, the
Mannequins rocked out for a
frenzied herd of enthusiastic
slam-dancers.
After the Mannequins' set,
as the clock ticked away, people
were getting edgy, but it wasn't
time for souvenirs yet; it was
time for Dirt. Yeah, cheese-city
metal. And did the crowd undulate to this fourpiece - like we're
talking major primo wig-out
action here! Davey Badanic,
lead screamer/guitarist and once
proud owner of a 62 Falcon,
helped  present  a  barrage of
Mudhoney are moving up
in this world in more ways than
one; they've got big security
dudes lurking around the stage,
and we're subjected to an over-
long drum solo (possibly the
stupidestjuxtapositionof words
in the language) as their set
winds down. An' that's it, folks:
with a bout of Drummer Histrionics, the Green River phoenix
folds up. I stumble blearily to
the coat check lineup, vaguely
conscious that I oughta be deafer
than I am after something like
this, but other than that, a satisfied customer. Though whether
right up the side fire escape, just
as the play "Dead Serious" was
letting out through the empty
theatre and down some stairs to
heaven: The Arts Club Lounge!
Stuart Slut, the doorman,
then proceeded to nicely "Paula
Abdul" my withering body right
into the middle of the packed
dance floor, just in time to see
Super Caustic Fertilizer wind
up their set of loud, powerful,
ugly, poetic lyricism. (These
guys have a mighty fine demo
here at CiTR, so phone up and
request it 'cause they're really
feeling down after having been
burnt out of a possible headlining spot at The Metro).
By this time the olde Club
had "Way too many people,"
according to an employee called
"Nuts!," who kept the ever-
present Granville Island Management Team happy (and possibly saved the evening) by
gathering up heaps of smashed
"stoopid" rawk combined with
Circle Jerkin', Black Flaggin'
favourites. When "A Piece of
the Action," was dedicated to
local shysters Tankhog, the
place went bonkers. Everything
seemed to be up for grabs.
Underagcrs stole beer mugs to
remind themselves how many
times they 'd snuck into the Club
and puked, while those of legal
age ripped wooden planks from
the walls to show their wives.
riot it was just another normal
weekend at lhat funky place wc
once   called   the   Arts   Club
Nardwuar the Human
Serviette
(Club Chatter: Tammy, Arts
Club bartendress supreme,
wants Vancouverites to know
the Bar is STILL open Friday
and Saturday nights. No live
music, but still a boss scene.)
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20 DISCORDER Attila the Stockbroker
Live at the Rivoll
(Festival)
Spoken word poetry. Ah,
the one form of recorded expression that commercial radio
can never wrench from the
clutches of college radio. Lydia
Lunch, Henry Rollins, Jello
Biafra, and Emilio Cubeiro are
the v anguard of the spoken word
scene. Quickly closing in, however, is Attila the Stock-broker,
a chap who really shouldn't be
in this
catch-up position, having been
"ranting" since the original
British punk movement of the
mid-1970s. Import prices on his
previous releases and the lack
of their availability, are prime
reasons why Attila isn't ranked
higher among the purveyors of
spoken word status quo sabotage, at least in North America.
Hopefully this will change with
adequate promotion of "Live at
the Rivoli," his debut domestic
product. It is being handled by
the Vancouver Folk Festival
people who brought him over to
Canada for the first time last
year.
No one's lap is spared here
on that summer's eve in
Toronto's Rivoli Club when the
bile that has accumulated during Attila's trans-Atlantic flight
spews forth like a ruptured blis
ter ripened in the desert sun.
Morrissey ("I'm So Miserable"),
media magnate Rupert Murdoch
("TheBible According to Rupert
Murdoch"), journalists ("The
Newshound"), and BBC DJs
("College Radio Rap") are all
targets of Attila's scathing and
primarily humourous commentary.
Standouts also include
"Libyan Students from Hell"
which deals with the hysteria
surrounding Qaddaft's nowhere-to-be-found hit squads of
the Reagan years, Motorhead's
"Ace of Spades" as interpreted
by Jean-Paul Sartre, and "Contributory Negligence," which
questions the validity of a much
too common court decision that
places the blame upon the victims of rape. Attila the Stockbroker appears at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre on
March 20.
Lloyd Uliana
Ministry
The Mind is a Terrible Thing
to Taste
(Sire)
Ministry may be the ultimate expression of raw emotional power expressed in music. Hope, fear, anger and frustration combine in a chaotic
powerhouseofelectronicdrums,
guitar samples and tortured lyr
ics. "The Mind" is a far
focused and personal work than
the previous "Land of Rape and
Honey."
Acoustic drumming overlays the programmed drum
tracks and much of the guitar is
not sampled. Many different
background vocalists were also
added to supplement Alain
Jourgensen's vicious chants, and
mysterious spoken word
samples occur throughout the
album, giving insight into the
feelings being expressed. The
resultantmusic occupies the fine
line between the guitar/drum
qualities of Metallica and the
best lyrical/vocal styles of the
Dead Kennedys and Public
Enemy.
Ministry has successfully
borrowed elements from thrash
metal, punk, rap and industrial
to create a highly original sound
which affects the listener like a
raw adrenaline injection straight
into the heart
Gene Derreth
Greater Than One
G-Force
(WaxTrax/US)
Greater Than One (> 1) are
an English duo whose works
best fall into the category of
multi-media. Together as a team
they produce artworks: paintings, sculptures, and installations; they make videos and
films for performances and for
combined exhibitions of their
works, and they produce multimedia events in theatres which
combine almost all aspects of
their works including music,
which they create, record, and
produce themselves.
Their musical output has
been gaining illustrious momentum, culminating in what could
be one of the most interesting
and ground-breaking works of
the nineties-their latest LP, "G-
Force." The range of styles,
sounds, moods and concepts is
incredibly comprehensive; one
can soon taste the strong desire
to communicate that >1 must
possess. Their ideas are not often expressed through lyrics of
their own; instead, an impressive collage of samples, found
voices, choirs, treated orchestra
passages, and taped dialog flow
symphonically along a sonically
visual time-line that seems to
defy time. It engulfs your ears in
sensual, powerful, yet stimulating, and emotion promoting
aural collage. The intensity of
each song builds and falls dramatically, carrying the ears in a
sometimes hard, sometimes soft,
seat of rhythms. The space required to do this music journalistic justice would make the
editor faint. So what I want you
to do is go and get this record,
and you will complete this review with you own impressions.
If your are interested in
music, especially the music
being made today, then you will
be interested in this record. It
will not sit quietly on your turntable, it will transform your
imagination and liquify your
expectations of what music is
"supposed" to be like. The degree to which you are impressed
will probably depend on how
bored you are with popular,
mainstream music; one spin by
the cynical could renew their
hope for the future.
Technology, art, ideas, and
courage can be combined to
created important, relevant
music that affects the way we
judge our world. This is such a
work. I now dare to imagine
what they may do next...
Robert Shea
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MARCH 1990 21 In response to verbal complaints regarding
CiTR's airing of the song Welcome to the
Terrordome by Public Enemy, on Monday
February 12 CiTR removed its copy of the
songfrom access by its programmers while
station executive discussed the issue. On
Monday February 19 the station's copy was
made available for airplay once again. CiTR
will continue to make Welcome to the Terrordome available for airplay by its programmers.
CiTR uses discretion in its programming.
Our programming policy states that we will
not air material that incites hatred or discrimination against an identifiable group or
class of individuals. We believe that the lyrics contained in Welcome to the Terror-
dome do not incite hatred against the
Jewish community. This song does not
contravene our programming policy; therefore it is being made available for airplay by
our programmers.
CiTR is ensuring that all of our programmers are aware of the issue and have all
available knowledge and information so
that they can reach their own informed
decision on whether or not to play the song.
The airwaves should be used for a discussion of a variety of concerns. As is stated
in the Broadcasting Act, "the programming
provided by the Canadian broadcasting system should be varied and comprehensive
and should provide reasonable balanced
opportunity for the expression of differing
views on matters of public concern...."
CiTR views the removal or suppression of
another opinion from the airwaves as a
dangerous action which does hot address
the issue of anti-semitism and how it can
be eradicated.
CiTR will not remove from public contemplation and discussion an artistic work whose
only offense is the fact that it is controversial.
Please direct all questions to Chris Buchanan.
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1 THURSDAY CITR plants Cold Comfort continuing at
Station Street Arts Centra
(8:30pm)... National People's Gang
with the Wing Nuts at the Town
Pump... Cool Thursdays in the Pit
Pub, tunes by CiTR... David Raven
at the Yale...UBC Stage Band at the
Recital Hall (12:30pm)... Mixed
Chamber Ensembles at the Recital
Hall (8pm)... Joseph Danza at the
Grunt Gallery... What I did Last
Summer continues at Presentation
House... Jean Paul Sartre's No Exit
continues at Dorothy Somerset Studio (8pm)... Aaron Bushkowski's Silly
Season opens at the Richmond Gateway Studio Theatre(8pm)... Pink Ink's
Tha Cezanne Syndrome continues
at Vancouver Little Theatre
(8:30pm)... Touchstone Theatre's
Homework for Men and Curtains
for a Crazy Old Lady continue at the
Firehall (8pm)...TImetoKill by Leslie
Darbon continues at the Vagabond
Playhouse (8pm)... Goodnight Dos-
demona continues at the Vancouver
East Cultural Centre (8pm)... Exhibition by Bowie, Kofol and South continues at the AMS Gallery... First
Thursday Art Night...
2 FRIDAY CITR presents
Cold Comfort continuing at Station Street Arts Centre (8:30pm)...
SEVA benefit with Spirit of tha
West, Rob Wasserman, Bob Weir,
Jorma Kaukonen, Rick Danko and
Connie Kaldor at the Orpheum
(7pm)... The Hard Rock Miners and
The Smugglers at the Town Pump...
David Raven at the Yale... Albert
Col HnsandThe Demons at theCom-
modore Ballroom... Nadine Davenport and Leslie Carter at La Quena...
University Chamber Singers at the
Recital Hall (12:30pm and 8pm)...
Neil James Harnett at 86 Street
Music Had... Real Eyes at RJ
Christies'... No Exit continues at
Dorothy Somerset Studio (8pm)...
What I did Last Summer continues
at Presentation House... Silly Season continues at the Richmond Gateway Studio Theatre (8pm)... The
Cezanne Syndrome continues at
Vancouver Little Theatre (8:30pm)...
Homework for Men and Curtains
for a Crazy Old Lady continue at the
Firehall (8pm)... Time to Kill by Leslie
Darbon continues at the Vagabond
Playhouse (8pm)...Bertolt Brechfs
Tha Good Woman of Szechwan
continues at the Simon Fraser University Theatre (8pm)... Goodnight
Desdemona continues at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre (8pm)...
The Rocky Horror Picture Show at
the Lux Theatre (midnight)... Exhibition by Bowie, Kofol and South
closes at the AMS Gallery...
3 SATURDAY CITR presents Linton Kwesi Johnson at the
Commodore Ballroom with Sister
Breeze, Dennis Bovell and the Dub
Band, and tha Almighty Dread
Band... CITR presents Cold Comfort closing at Station Street Arts
Centra (8:30pm)... The Head-
benders at the WISE Hall... David
Raven at the Yale... Real Eyes at RJ
Christies'... No Exit closes at Dorothy
Somerset Studio (8pm)... What I did
Last Summer continues at Presentation House... Silly Season closes
atthe Richmond Gateway Studio Theatre (8pm)... The Cezanne Syn-
at Vancouver Little
Theatre (8:30pm)... Homework for
Men and Curtains for a Crazy Old
Lady continue at the Firehall (8pm)...
Time to Kill by Leslie Darbon continues at the Vagabond Playhouse
(8pm)... The Good Woman of
Szechwan closes at the Simon Fraser
University Theatre (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)...
4 SUNDAY LucieBlueTrem-
blay and Jennifer Berezan at the
Vancouver East Cultural Centre
(8pm)... Barry Harris Trio at theTom
Lee Music Hall (8pm)... Homework
for Men and Curtains for a Crazy
Old Lady dose at the Firehall (8pm)...
5 MONDAY CITR presents
Big Beat Cabaret at the Commodore Ballroom... Michael Strutt at
the Community Arts Council (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)...
6 TUESDAY CiTR presents
Severed Heads and MC 900FT Jesus and DJ Zero at Graceland...
Jesus Lizards and The Magnolias
at Club Soda... Incognito at the
Yale... What I did Last Summer
continues at Presentation House...
The Cezanne Syndrome continues
at Vancouver Little Theatre
(8:30pm)... Goodnight Desdemona
continues at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre (8pm)...
7 WEDNESDAY    citr
presents Numb at Graceland with
Superconductor and Elizabeth Fischer... Bob Bell and Necropolis 90
at the Grunt Gallery... Incognito at
the Yale... Salsa Ferreras Orchestra
at the Commodore Ballroom... Hot
Wednesdays in the Pit Pub, tunes by
CiTR... What I did Last Summer
continues at Presentation House...
Tha Cezanne Syndrome continues
at Vancouver Little Theatre
(8:30pm)... Time to Kill by Leslie
Darbon continues at the Vagabond
Playhouse (8pm)... Goodnight Desdemona continues at the Vancouver
EastCultural Centre (8pm)... Bertolt
Brecht's Herr Puntilla and his Servant Matti opens at the Freddy Wood
Theatre (8pm)...
8 THURSDAY    Pinetop
Perkins, Hubert Sumlin, Big Daddy
Kinsey and Little M ike & the Tornadoes at the Commodore... Martin
Carth and Dave Swarbrick at the
WISE Hall... Luba at 86 Street Music
Hall... Incognito at the Yale... Cool
Thursdays in the Pit Pub, tunes by
CiTR... What I did Last Summer
continues at Presentation House...
The Boys Next Door continues at
Station Street Arts Centre... Vancouver Sea Theatre's The Boys Next
Door opens at Station Street Arts
Centre... The Cezanne Syndrome
continues at Vancouver Little Theatre (8:30pm)... Time to Kill continues at the Vagabond Playhouse
(8pm)... Goodnight Desdemona
continues atthe Vancouver East Cultural Centre (8pm)... Herr Puntilla
and his Servant Matti continues at
the Freddy Wood Theatre (8pm)...
Evelyn Lau and Surjeet Kalsey at
the Community Arts Council (8pm)...
9 FRIDAY    DOA record re-
lease party with NoMeansNo at the
Commodore (all ages show 6pm,
drinkin show 9:30pm)... Beat Farmers at the Town Pump... Courtney
Pina Quartet at the Tom Lee Concert Hall (7:30 & 10pm)... Incognito
at the Yale... Hidden Forbidden at
RJ Christies'... What I did Last
Summer continues at Presentation
House... The Boys Next Door continues at Station Street Arts Centre...
The Cezanne Syndrome continues
at Vancouver Little Theatre
(8:30pm)... Herr Puntilla and his
Servant Matti continues at the Freddy
Wood Theatre (8pm)... Time to Kill
by Leslie Darbon continues at the
Vagabond Playhouse (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)... Heavy Petting opens at the
Vancouver East Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)... The Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Lux Theatre (midnight)...
10 SATURDAY Thesat-
talites with Roots Round-up at the
Commodore... The Dots, The Bird
Dogs and Rocky Craig at the WISE
Hall... Beat Farmers at the Town
Pump... Incognito at the Yale...
Hidden Forbidden at RJ Christies'...
Lennny Kravitz at 86 Street Music
Hall... What I did Last Summer
closes at Presentation House... The
Cezanne Syndrome continues at
Vancouver Little Theatre (8:30pm)...
Time to Kill closes at the Vagabond
Playhouse (8pm)...Herr Puntilla and
his Servant Matti continues at the
Freddy Wood Theatre
(8pm)...Goodnight Desdemona
continues at the Vancouver East
Cultural Centre (8pm)... Heavy Petting continues atthe Vancouver East
Cinema (7:30pm, 9:20pm)...
11 SUNDAY Elvis Hitler at
the Town Pump... Kevin Volans and
Lori Freedman at the Vancouver
East Cultural Centre (7pm)... Robin
Trower at 86 Street Music Hall...
Heavy Petting continues at the Vancouver East Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)... Purim Carnival at the
Jewish Community Centre (12-
3pm)...
12 MONDAY CiTRpres-
ents Tad and Nirvana at the Town
Pump... CiTR presents Big Beat
Cabaret at the Commodore Ballroom... Herr Puntilla and his Servant Matti continues at the Freddy
Wood Theatre (8pm)... Goodnight
Desdemona continues at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre (8pm)...
Heavy Petting continues at the Vancouver East Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)...
13 TUESDAY Ninth Configuration at Club Soda... Johnny V
at the Yale... The Cezanne Syndrome continues at Vancouver Little
Theatre (8:30pm)... Herr Puntillaand
his Servant Matti continues at the
Freddy Wood Theatre
(8pm)...Carbons 14 opens at Simon
Fraser University Theatre (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
atthe Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)... Heavy Petting continues at
the Vancou ver E ast Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)...
14 WEDNESDAY waiiy
and the Stockman, Boogiemen and
Harpdog Brownatthe Commodore...
Kate Hammett-Vaughn at the Grunt
Gallery... Johnny Vat the Yale... Hot
Wednesdays in the Pit Pub, tunes by
CiTR... The Boys Next Door continues at Station Street Arts Centre...
The Cezanne Syndrome continues
at Vancouver Little Theatre
(8:30pm)... Herr Puntilla and his
Servant Matti continues atthe Freddy
Wood Theatre (8pm)... Carbone 14
continues at Simon Fraser University
Theatre (8pm)... Goodnight
Desdemona continues at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre (8pm)...
Heavy Petting continues at the Vancouver East Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)...
15 THURSDAY    crash
Vegas at the Town Pump... Johnny
V at the Yale... Cool Thursdays in the
Pit Pub, tunes by CiTR... Clarence
Darrow by David Rintals opens at
Presentation House... The Boys Next
Door continues at Station Street Arts
Centre... The Cezanne Syndrome
continues at Vancouver Little Theatre (8:30pm)... Herr Puntilla and
his Servant Matti continues at the
Freddy Wood Theatre (8pm)... Car-
bone 14 continues at Simon Fraser
University Theatre (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)... Heavy Petting closes at the
Vancouver East Cinema (7:30pm,
9:20pm)...
16 FRIDAY Jazzmanian
Devils with Tha Last Wild Sons at
86 Street Music Hall... Johnny V at
the Yale... Innocent Fun and the
Smugglers at RJ Christies'... The
Boys Next Door continues atStation
Street Arts Centre... Clarence
Darrow continues at Presentation
House... The Cezanne Syndrome
continues at Vancouver Little Theatre (8:30pm)... Herr Puntilla and
his Servant Matti continues at the
Freddy Wood Theatre (8pm)... Car-
bone 14 continues at Simon Fraser
University Theatre (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona continues
at the Vancouver EastCultural Centre
(8pm)... The Rocky Horror Picture
Show at theLux Theatre (midnight)...
17 SATURDAY     Rom
Russell Band at the Town Pump...
Innocent Fun and the Smugglers
at RJ Christies'... Johnny V at the
Yale... The Boys Next Door continues at Station Street Arts Centre...
Clarence Darrow continues at Presentation House... The Cezanne Syndrome closes at Vancouver Little
Theatre (8:30pm)... Herr Puntillaand
his Servant Matti continues at the
Freddy Wood Theatre (8pm)... Car-
bone 14 continues at Simon Fraser
University Theatre (8pm)...
Goodnight Desdemona closes at
the Vancouver East Cultural Centre
(8pm)...
18 SUNDAY Co-op Radio
Benefit with Jazzmanian Devils,
Bolero Lava and Hard Rock Miners
at the Town Pump... Purcell String
Quartet with Roger Cole at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre (2:30 &
8pm)...
19 MONDAY CiTR presents Big Beat Cabaret at tha Commodore Ballroom... Mike Jacobs
at the Yale... Jeff Wall 1990, an exhi
bition of Jeff Wall's 19 photographic
transparencies closes at the Vancouver Art Gallery...
20 TUESDAY Killdozerat
Club Soda... Mika Jacobs at the
Yale...
21 WEDNESDAY  Mik.
Jacobs at the Yale... Hot Wednesdays in the Pit Pub, tunes by CiTR...
Tha Boys Next Door continues at
Station Street Arts Centre...
22 THURSDAY   Toasters
at the Yale... Cool Thursdays in the
Pit Pub, tunes by CiTR... The Boys
Next Door continues at Station Street
Arts Centre...
23 FRIDAY Kanda Bongo
Man with Roots Round-up at the,
Town Pump... James Cotton at the
Commodore...The Tragical ly Hipat
86 Street Music Hall... Toasters at
the Yale... The Boys Next Door continues at Station Street Arts Centre...
The Rocky Horror Picture Show at
the Lux Theatre (midnight)...
24 SATURDAY TheTragi-
cally Hip at 86 Street Music Hall...
Toasters at the Yale... The Boys
Next DoorcontinuesatStation Street
Arts Centre...
25 SUNDAY CiTR presents
Eugene RipperattheTown Pump...
CiTR presents Jane Siberry at the
Arts Club Granville Island (two
shows 7:00 and 10:00)... Eric Bogla
and Greg Brown at the Vancouver
East Cultural Centre (8pm)... Rita
MacNeil at the Queen E lizabeth Theatre (8pm)...
26 MONDAY CiTR presents Big Beat Cabaret at tha Commodore Ballroom... kd lang and
tha Reclines at the Orpheum...
27 TUESDAY cocoMon-
toya at the Town Pump... Paul de lay
at the Yale... Rita MacNeil at the
Queen Elizabeth Theatre (8pm)... kd
lang and tha Reclines at the Orpheum...
28 WEDNESDAY   Paul
de lay at the Yale... Hot Wednesdays
in the Pit Pub, tunes by CiTR... Rita
MacNeil at the Queen Elizabeth
Theatre (8pm)...The Boys Next Door
continues at Station Street Arts
Centre...
29 THURSDAY j.j.caie
with the Wyckham Porteus Band
at the Commodore... Paul de lay at
the Yale... Cool Thursdays in the Pit
Pub, tunes byCiTR...The Boys Next
Door continues at Station Street Arts
Centre... Sandy Duncan and Linda
Rogers atthe Community ArtsCoun-
■ cil(8pm)...
30 FRIDAY Paul delay at the
Yale... Jana Bunnett Quintet at the
TomLee Music Hall...The Boys Next
Door continues at Station Street Arts
Centre... The Rocky Horror Picture
Show at the LuxTheatre (midnight)...
31 SATURDAY    ciiv.
Gregson and Christina Collister at
the WISE Hall... Paul da lay at the
Yale... Tha Boys Next Door closes
at Station Street Arts Centre...
PLACESPLACESPLACES
CENTENNIAL THEATRE 23rd and
Lonsdale, North Vancouver
CLUB SODA    1055 Homer Street
681-8202
COMMODORE BALLROOM 870
Granville Street 681-7838
COMMUNITY ARTS COUNCIL 837
Davie Street 683-4358
DOROTHY SOMERSET THEATRE
behind the Freddy Wood Theatre,
UBC 228-2678
86 STREET MUSIC HALL   former
Expoo Site 683-8687
FIREHALLARTSCENTRE 280East
Cordova Street 689-0926
FREDERIC WOOD THEATRE 6454
Crescent Road, UBC 228-2678
GRUNT GALLERY   209 East 6th
Avenue 875-9516
HOGAN'S ALLEY 730 Main Street
681-6326
JEWISH   COMMUNITY   CENTRE
950 West 41 st Avenue 266-9111
LA QUENA COFFEEHOUSE 1111
Commercial Drive
PACIFIC CINEMATHEQUE    1131
Howe Street 688-3456
PIT PUB    Basement of SUB 228-
6511
PITT INTERNATIONAL GALLERIES 36 Powell Street 734-8001
RJ CHRISTIES 315 East Broadway
876-6777
RAILWAY CLUB     579 Dunsmuir
Street 681-1625
RECITAL HALL   School of Music,
6361 Memorial Road 228-3113
RIDGE THEATRE    3131 Arbutus
Street  738-6311
STATION STREET ARTS CENTRE
930 Station Street 688-3312
STUDIO 58 Main Building. Langara
Campus 324-5227
SUBTHEATRE Student Union Building, UBC
TOM LEE MUSIC HALL 929 Granville Street
TOWN PUMP 66 Water Street 683-
6695
VAGABONDPLAYHOUSE Queens
Park, New Westminster 521-0412
VANCOUVER EAST CINEMA 2290
Commercial Drive 253-5455
VANCOUVER EAST CULTURAL
CENTRE 1895 Venables Street 254-
9578
VANCOUVER  LITTLE THEATRE
3102 Main Street 876-4165
WAR MEMORIAL GYM University
Blvd & Wesbrook Mall UBC
WISE HALL   1882 Adanac Street
(right behind the Cultch) 736-3022
WOMEN IN FOCUS STUDIO  849
Beatty Street 875-6624
YALE HOTEL    1300 Granville at
Drake 681-9253
MARCH 1990 25 MTfH£T\4Jwi
"I've been called worse," says artist Rick Gibson,
who on January 6th of this year was to have
performed his latestexhibit, "Free Art Lesson," in
which Sniffy the Rat was to have been crushed by
a 25kg concrete block. The event attracted media
coverage from across the country, including condemnation from Much Music fashion victim Erica Ehm. However, on the moming of the performance the rat crushing apparatus was stolen by
animal rights activists, and Mr. Gibson was chased
from the scene by an angry mob. Four days later,
I contacted Mr. Gibson and asked him a few
questions about the event and his work.
So how does it feel to be a celebrity?
Same as before. I've been a celebrity before.
And how is it?
/ get up now, and I figure out how I'm gonna pay
my bills. It's just the same as the next day. I
guess...I think...the celebrity process is stress.
And then once the stress is gone you're just like
anybody else again.
Do you have fun?
That is a tough question, because the last two
weeks weren't terribly much fun. ft was very
stressful. But I think now thai it's over witk I can
sitbackandsay, "That wasvery interesting." And
I'm glad I went through it. For those two weeks I
can definitely say I had an exciting life.
Are you afraid of the negative reaction or
annoyed by the negative attention you got?
No. Why should I be? Am I afraid that someone's
gonna...break my door down andwhatever? The
answer is, no. 'Cause I haven't done anything
wrong. What the media says about me is strictly
their own business. I have no control over it, I
don't try and manipulate it. In fact, I derive great
pleasure reading headlines that are absolutely
crazy describing my work. I enjoy it. I like to see
journalists being creative.
So you do have fun!
Well, yeah, because the journalists that I talk to
are professional people. And it'sfunworkingwith
those people. I take everything I read, or see on
television, with a grain of salt. _^-*y a_l
But also there comes a lack of fear with
knowing I'm right. A lot of things about that piece
had to do wilh just general hypocrisy. And today
I got a copy ofThe Province and read in the letters
to the editor they were glad that Sniffy had a new
place, and there should beafollow-up story looking at what his life has been like after that traumatic affair—Traumatic Affair!?! That rat had
the best days of its life under my care! It lived the
life of a king rat as far as I was concerned.
But afew pages before there is a very small
article that talks about that out in Langley the
26 DISCORDER
SPCA has decided to stop shooting dogs; they're
now gonna give them lethal injections. Now this is
pretty nuts. We got everybody screaming and
yelling over a rat and yet everyday there's the
business at hand of shooting dogs. What's the
uproar? This ral was bred specifically to be eaten
alive. Those dogs were bred out of accident and
were picked up and are now being shot. Where is
"Lifeforce" ? Where are those protestors?
What was the purpose of "Free Art Lesson"?
To make a hyperbolic statement, or to simply
do the kindest thing possible for Sniffy?
/ was trying to do the most humane thing possible
for that rat.
But you do consider yourself foremost an artist
over someone who is trying to make a statement?
Well, I see them part in parcel. I don't see anything wrong with it. That's the content of my art.
Would you have given up the publicity in order
to actually have performed the exhibit?
No, but the publicity—/' // discuss that for a minute, okay? I sent out a press release. That's
something everybody should do when they're
going to have an exhibition. I think that's just par
for the course.
The piece still could have gone ahead, even
without me sending the press releases, because it
was going to be at the corner of Robson and
Burrard. People still would have seen the piece.
And so, the media wasn't necessary, butforpeople
to see the piece, and for me to have a small group
of people discuss it. But I always do inform the
media whenever I'm going to do an exhibition.
And so I continue to do that, and there is the
possibility in so doing that I'll go from a sort of
closed circuit situation into a much larger event
where I reach more people.
One of the most pathetic things about art
galleries is you can go there at almost anytime
and nobody's in them. They're one ofthe most
horrible places for the communication of ideas
because many artists don't send out press re-
leasesandmany galleries, quite frankly, fall down
on the job for that.
What's your educational background?
I got a degree in psychology at the University of
Victoria...that was in 1974.1 was interested in the
arts and the psychology of art and in the last year
or two of university I began to take courses with
that kind of a bias to it. And when I graduated I
went to the Emily Carr College of Arts for about
three months. It was called the Vancouver School
of Art back then. And I left, and I wound up
working with one of its teachers: a guy named Al
Razutis. He was making holograms, and I was
interested in this whole area of science and technology.
I was making mathematical models out of
plastic and trying to develop a sculpture out of
that. I came across holography, and it just blew
me away—this was 1976; and I wound up taking
a course from Al Razutis, and he then hired me as
his assistant for a year. It was one of the most
important experiences I've had in my artistic
education. He's (Al Razutis] fairly well known in
the holographic world for having made some
interesting statements. I left his studio; I got a
Canada Council Explorations Grant to set up my
own holographic studio. And I had one or two
exhibitions. At one of my exhibitions someonewas
looking at my holograms—do you know anything
about holography and its technology?
No, I don't.
Well, things have changed since I was doing it, but
there was a time when everything had to be
absolutely rock solid to get a good hologram. If
something moves during the exposure it comes out
pitch black. Andpeopleat an exhibitioncriticized
my work, saying, "How come there's no still-life
set up?" And I said, "Okay, let's try and get some
organic stuff in here." And I tried to make holograms of flowers, and meat, and what not, with
limited success I began to explore techniques on
how to make them rigidehough to get a good,
clear holographic image. And I came acrossfreeze-
drying and it was perfect. But when I saw the
result I said, "To Hell with making a hologram of
it, this is a new sculptural medium unto itself." So
I began to work with freeze-dry ed materials.
It was at about this time that the animal
liberation movement was starting to come into its
own. I began lo realize, "Wow! If I'm gonna use
meat as a sculptural medium, I suddenly have to
look to the moral issues involved." The themes
behind all of my sculptures are looking at the
moral problems associated with dead animals as
a sculptural medium. And I think from that point
on my thinking changed radically. I no longer was
interested in nice, pretty objects dealing with line,
shape, form, colour; I was interested in concepts.
So biology is a unifying theme in your work.
It's becoming that, yes.
Now how about the use of sexual organs, such
as a testicle and a uterus. Do these express a
biological or a sexual theme?
B iologicat. Definitely biological. One ofthe things
I did in London, I don't know if you heard about
this, but I made a pair or earrings out offreeze-
dryed human foetuses. I had two of them. And they
were exhibited for the very first time in an art
gallery in London, and they were confiscated
about twenty minutes afler the show opened, by
the police, A year later we went to court, and both
myself and the manager ofthe art gallery were
found guilty of outraging public decency. What
happened during that episode.. .1 began to get a lot
of flack from feminists. They were saying, "Hey,
you've mounted them on the head of a female
mannequin, these foetus earrings. Are you making some sort of derogatory statement about
women?" And that really look me by surprise;
that hadnever really occurred to me. And so, I felt
I better set the record straight, as well as, I don't
know, satisfy my own intrigue for new gourmet
experiences. I decided to eat a slice of human
testicle. To set the record straight. My work has
nothing to do with sex. It primarily has to do with
what it is to be alive, as a creature. Regardless of
sex or, quite frankly, species. 8pm ♦*♦ 12am
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