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 58 Vict. Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 709
RETURN
To an Order of the House for a Return of all correspondence with the Horsefly
Hydraulic Mining Co., the Government Agent at Clinton, Road Superintendent,
East Lillooet, and any other person in connection with the building of the road
from 108-Mile House to Horsefly, and with the payment of $3,000 to said
Company on account of said road.—(See vote 182, page 119, Public Accounts to
30th June, 1894.)
G. B. MARTIN,
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works.
Lands and Works Department,
Victoria, 4th February, 1895.
Victoria, B. C, May 12th, 1893.
Sib,—Referring to the appropriation of $2,000 to aid in the construction of a road to the
Horsefly Mines (Vote 182, Estimates to 30th June, 1894), I beg to request your assistance in
getting the Members for Lillooet and Cariboo to mutually agree upon some capable person to
be employed by the Government to examine the two proposed routes to the mines, viz.: via
the 150-Mile House, or via Lac La Hache.
It was intended at one time to appoint Mr. Arthur Stevenson, but the Cariboo Members
objected; in the same way the Members for Lillooet objected to Mr. Wm. Allan, C.E.
Will you kindly write to the members and request their united action in the matter, as
the Government are anxious to meet their views as far as possible.
I have, &c,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
F. Soues, Esq.,
Government Agent, Clinton, B. C.
Government Office,
Clinton, B. C, May 16th, 1893.
Sir,—Referring to your letter of the 12th inst., in the matter of the appropriation of
$2,000 to aid in the construction of a road to the Horsefly Mines via the proposed route to
these mines, viz., via the 150-Mile House or via Lac La Hache, I beg to say that Mr. Arthur
Stevenson passed here yesterday, on his way to examine the two proposed routes. I did not
see Mr. Stevenson (the stage only stopping here to change horses), but Mr. Stoddart is my
informant, who did see him, and ascertained his mission. Mr. Stoddart informs me that he
was always agreeable to Mr. Stevenson being selected to decide on the rival routes, and says
that he is quite sure that his colleague, Mr. Smith, is also satisfied. As Mr. Stevenson has
passed here, I presume it is not necessary that I should take any further action in the matter.
Your obedient servant,
(Signed)        F. Soues,
W. S. Gore, Esq., Government Agent.
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria. 710 Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 1895
Answered by wire, Wth May, 1893, as follows :—
Carry out directions my letter re Horsefly Road, regardless of Stevenson.    Confer with
Cariboo Members.
(Signed)        W. S. Gore.
Government Office,
Clinton, B. C, June 24th, 1893.
Sir,—Reverting to your letter of the 12th ult., re selection of route to the Horsefly
Mines, I have the honour to enclose herewith office copy of a letter addressed by me to each of
the Members for the Districts of Lillooet and Cariboo on the 20th ult. I enclose replies from
the Members for the District of Lillooet, but up to the present have no reply from either of
the Members for the District of Cariboo.
I have etc.,
(Signed)        F. Soues,
Government Agent.
W. S. Gore, Esq.,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and, Works,
Victoria.
[Enclosures.]
Government Office,
Clinton, B. O, May 20th, 1893.
Dear Sir,—In the matter of a road to the Horsefly Mines, and in aid of which the sum
of $2,000 has been appropriated in the Estimates for the ensuing fiscal year, I am requested by
the Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works to write to the Members for Cariboo and
Lillooet requesting them to mutually agree upon some capable person, to be employed by the
Government, to examine the two proposed routes to these mines, viz., via the 150-Mile House,
or via Lac La Hache. Will you kindly give the matter your early and united attention, as
the Government are anxious to meet your views as far as possible.
Yours truly,
(Signed)        F. Soues,
Government Agent.
(Originals forwarded to D. A. Stoddart, A. W. Smith, S. A. Rogers, I. B. Nason, and
H. Watt.)
Clinton, May 30th, 1893.
Dear Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter dated May 20th,
re road to Horsefly Mines. I am somewhat surprised at this communication, for before I left
Victoria I was informed by the Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works that he had decided
to send Mr. A. Stevenson to examine both routes, and knowing him to be a disinterested
party and one quite competent to examine and report on the route most feasible, I was
perfectly satisfied to accept his decision.
I care not who the Government send to examine the proposed routes as long as he is a
disinterested party and one competent to report on a work of that kind.
Yours truly,
(Signed)        D.  A. Stoddart.
F. Soues, Esq.,
Government Agent, Clinton. 58 Vict. Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 711
Lillooet, 1st June, 1893.
Dear Sir,—Yours of May 20th, referring to the Horsefly Road, just received.
When the subject of route was  under  consideration at the  time the Estimates were
discussed it was proposed  by the Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works that Mr. Arthur
Stevenson be sent to examine the country for the best road, and I consider him a good  man
for the work.    If he cannot go, anyone else the Government send will suit me.
Yours truly,
(Signed)        A. W. Smith.
F. Soues, Esq.,
Government Agent, Clinton, B. C.
Lytton, June 1st, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to inform you that, according to verbal instructions received
from you, I have been to the Forks of Quesnelle and examined the site for new bridge. I
have made out the bill of timber required and have asked for tenders for same. Tenders to
be opened on the 29th day of June. Timber to be delivered at bridge site on or before the
first day of February, 1894.
On the trip I also examined the proposed line for sleigh road from the 150-Mile House to
Horsefly, and from Horsefly to the 108-Mile House. From Horsefly to the 108 I followed
the old Capt. Mitchell Trail as nearly as possible. It is a very hard job to find the old trail;
in many places it is totally obliterated; there is so much fallen timber and brush in places
that it is extremely difficult to get through at all. I estimate the distance from the 150 to
Horsefly to be about 36 miles, and from Horsefly to the 108 to be about 50 miles. Leaving
150, follow up a creek and valley about 6 miles; very little to do this far; passable sleigh
road now. Thence leave the creek and pass over a ridge of high, rolling, uneven ground for
about 2 miles; considerable grading. Thence cross 8-Mile Creek. Thence about 2 miles over
flattish ground; some clearing and corduroying, not much grading. Thence cross 10-Mile
Creek ; those are both good-sized creeks (bridges required). Thence about 10 miles over fairly
good and rather open country; not much work. Thence about 8 miles over rather uneven
ground; some clearing and considerable grading; in the last distance we cross one good-sized
creek three times. Thence about 8 miles more to Horsefly. This 8 miles is bad, uneven,
rough ground ; considerable clearing and heavy grading ; some bad pitches.
I could not spare the time to explore either of those routes as they should be. There
may be a better route to be found than the general line of trail over the last 8 miles; if not,
it will be quite expensive to make even a sleigh road over it.
Horsefly to 108.—Leaving Horsefly, we follow up Mussel Creek for 10 or 12 miles. First
5 miles open country; very little to do. Thence about 5 miles flattish ground; considerable
fallen timber and brush to be cleared out, some small bridges to build, and some corduroying
to do. Thence about 4 miles very bad with timber, and in places small black pine growing
up through the fallen timber almost as thick as they can stand; a few small bridges to build,
and a little grading in spots. Thence about 6 miles; about one-half this distance is bad with
timber and brush, some places ground a little uneven and rocky; other half partly open
country, not so much clearing to do, a little grading in spots.
Note.—For the last 4 or 5 miles we are travelling on the west side of a lake. I have
met two Indians that are trapping here and camped on other side of lake. They tell me that
by going on the east side of lake that the distance is shorter, and we can avoid all the rocky
ground and a very considerable amount of chopping.
Thence about 12 miles fairly good going; mostly timbered country, but not much fallen
timber or brush ; some small creeks and sloughs that would have to be bridged, and some light
grading in spots. Thence about 8 miles bad with fallen timber and brush ; some short pieces
of this distance are extremely bad; some corduroying and small bridges required. Thence
about 10 miles more to 108-Mile House. This 10 miles is through fairly open grassy country,
ground a little uneven in places; there would be some grading here, but most places where
grading is required on this 10 miles a plough and scraper could be used to advantage. There
is one large creek to be bridged about 3 miles from the 108 ; also some smaller ones on this 10
miles, but none of them amount to much except this one.    I think it may be better to come 712 Road from 108-Mlle House to Horsefly. 1895
out at the 111-Mile Post than at the 108. By so doing we would avoid this large creek; also
a rather bad hill going down to the creek. I am not quite sure about this, as I did not have
time to examine from the 111 up as well as it should be examined. However, if the road
shuuld go in this way, this point could be looked into more closely before starting the work.
This route is through a low, flattish country, and at this season of the year, when the creek
and sloughs are all full of water, it has anything but a favourable appearance. However, I
don't think there would be much corduroying or many sloughs to be bridged for a sleigh road.
If it ever should become necessary to convert it into a waggon road, or even a pack trail,
there would be a considerable amount of corduroying to do. By careful management,
swinging about a little on the uneven ground, the grading on this route can be reduced to a
very small amount.    Chopping and clearing is the big work on this route.
Now, in regard to cost, I think it will cost from $3,000 to $3,500 to build a useful sleigh
road over either of the routes.
On the 150 route the chopping and clearing is comparatively light, but the grading will
bring the cost up to near the same figure as the other.
I may say that the people in Horsefly who are most interested are very anxious that the
road should go from the 108 or 111.
I have, &c,
(Signed)        A. Stevenson,
To the Hon. F. G. Vernon,
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C.
Road Superintendent.
Victoria, B. C, June 5th, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 1st inst., stating
that you have called for tenders for timber for construction of a bridge at the Forks of
Quesnelle; also reporting on the proposed line for a sleigh road from the 150-Mile House to
Horsefly, and from Horsefly to the 108-Mile House.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
A. Stevenson, Esq.,
Road Superintendent, Lytton, B. C.
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
At Victoria, B. C, 14th August, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to submit the following proposition for your consideration :—
This Company is about constructing a pipe line to the mine on the Horsefly River, which
will involve the transportation from Ashcroft to the site of the pipe line of about two hundred
tons of steel sheets and other material. In addition to this, there will be the supplies of
groceries and other supplies required for a force of from thirty to fifty men constantly
employed during the summer season.
As the only means of access to the Horsefly Mines at present is via the 150-Mile House
and by pack trail from thence to the mines, a distance of about forty miles, it will be evident
to you that some other means of communication must be opened up before this Company can
proceed with the development of the mines in question, and the shortest route from the present
waggon road to the mines would be from the 108 or 111-Mile direct to the Horsefly, via the
Capt. Mitchell Trail, this route being about thirty miles shorter than that via the 150-Mile
House.
In addition to the opening up of a valuable agricultural tract of country between the
108-Mile and the Horsefly Mines, this road will form the shortest road to Barkerville, and
will, consequently, be of very considerable value to a large section of country.
As I understand that the Government have no appropriation at present which they can
apply to the opening up of this Capt. Mitchell Trail, I have the honour to submit the following
proposition, namely:— 58 Vict. Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 713
This Company will undertake to build a sleigh road via the Capt. Mitchell Trail between
the 108 or 111-Mile, whichever may be found most suitable, and tbe Horsefly Mines, and pay
the cost of building such road, provided the Government will accept of same on its completion
and refund to this Company, on or before the 1st July, 1894, the actual cost of such road, on
the understanding that such cost shall not exceed three thousand dollars ($3,000.00).
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
Hon. Forbes G. Vernon, President.
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C.
Victoria, B. C, August 15th, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of 14th inst. on the
subject of the transportation of machinery to the Horsefly Mines, and offering to build a
sleigh road to the said mines via Capt. Mitchell's trail from the 108 or 111-Mile Post, on
condition that the Government refund the actual cost of construction after 30th June next,
provided that such cost shall not exceed $3,000.
In reply I beg to say that your offer is accepted.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        F. G. Vernon,
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works.
If.  Abbott, Esq.,
General Superintendent, 0- P- H-,
Vancouver, B. C.
Vancouver, B.C., 21st August, 1893.
Dear Sir,—As it is proposed that this Company shall build a sleigh road from the
108 or 111-Mile to the Horsefly, to be hereafter taken over by the Government and the
amount expended on it refunded, I would like to get from you the usual specification and
form of contract under which you let work of a similar description, and I will also ask you to
name some one to whose inspection the road will be subject, so that there may be no misunderstanding as to the character of the road, or the person who is to inspect it.
Yours truly,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
President.
W. S. Gore, Esq.,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B.C.
Victoria, B.C., August 23rd, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 21st inst.,
having reference to the proposed sleigh road from the 108 or Ill-Mile Post to the Horsefly
mines, and, as requested, I enclose a form of specification which will answer your purpose
when the blank spaces are properly filled in to suit the character of road you propose to
construct.
Mr. F. Soues, Government Agent at Clinton, is the proper person to report to the
Department on the manner in which the work has been done, and the actual cost thereof as
indicated by receipted bills of expenditure to be furnished by you.
I have, &c,
(Signed)       W. S. Gore,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
H. Abbott, Esq.,
President, Horsefly Hydraulic Co.,
Vancouver, B.C. 714 Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 1895
Victoria, B.C., August 23rd, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to inform you that the Horsefly Hydraulic Company propose to
construct a sleigh road from the 108 or 111-Mile Post to the Horsefly mines, on condition
that the actual cost of construction, not to exceed $3,000, is to be repaid to them after 30th
June, 1894.
The Government have agreed to the proposition, and Mr. H. Abbott, the President of
the Company, has been informed that you are the proper officer to report to the Department
on the manner in which the work has been done, and the actual cost thereof as represented
by receipted bills of expenditure, to be furnished to you by him
I have, <fec,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
F. Soues, Esq.,
Government Agent,
Clinton, B.C.
27th December, 1893.
Sir,—I have the honour to submit herewith a statement of the expenditure made by my
company upon the road between the 108-Mile House and Wood's ranch, and between Wood's
ranch and the Horsefly mines.
The former has not been quite completed, but it is now in use as a sleigh road, and teams
are hauling freight into the Horsefly mines over it.
The portion between Wood's ranch and the Horsefly mines is, as I understand the
matter, a part of the road authorized to be built by your Government under Mr. Stevenson's
charge, and the route for this road was approved of by Mr. Stevenson.
It was originally intended to build this road, as shown on the enclosed map, on the line
marked " waggon road as first projected," but at Mr. Stevenson's request the line of the road
was altered, as shown on the enclosed map.
This road is required in connection with the mines, and has been constructed in a very
thorough manner as a waggon road, and as it is on the route approved by the Government
Agent for the road, which I understand he had instructions to build, I presume there will be
no. objection made to refunding this Company the expenditure made on this road.
As I remarked above, the road from Wood's ranch to the 108-Mile House is not fully
completed to the satisfaction of the Government Road Inspector, and it cannot now be so
completed until next year, and I venture to suggest that an additional $1,500 may be appropriated towards improving this road so as to make it passable for waggons during the summer
season.
It will be observed by the attached plan that a very short piece of road between Harper's
Road to timber, and the road as constructed, will complete a waggon road to Walter's ranch.
I will take an opportunity of calling upon you the first time I am in Victoria in case you
may want some further information in reference to this expenditure.
I have, &c,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
President.
Hon. Forbes G. Vernon,
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C.
P.S.—There may be some small amounts expended subsequent to the date of this statement, and if so I will advise you of them.
" H. A." 58 Vict.
Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly.
715
[Enclosure.]
The 108-Mile House Road in account with the Horsefly Hydratdic Mining Co., Limited.
1893.
October 7th-
27th-
-Cash paid A. Jefferson
W. Wright
3 00
Jos. Kelly	
T. Beyergout	
Jos. Farrell	
Ah Kee	
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G. Johnstone	
Jos. Patenaude	
Chester MeAdam	
ii 400 lbs. oats for team, October 1st to date, 5 cents . .
31st — 930 lbs. hay n n n       1      n
ii Use of two work mules hauling timber for bridges,
corduroy,  and  cribbing,   26 days in October at
$3 per day	
November 1st—Cash paid men for labour, as per October pay-roll . .
3rd—150 lbs. oats for team, 5 cents  	
5th—Provisions furnished  	
7th—Cash to John Swan, exploring and marking road . .
Sth—Provisions and tools furnished	
13th—T. J. Nagao's bill for labour, 31 Japs	
18th—Cash paid men for labour, as per November pay-roll
ii        Provisions furnished	
20th—Board of men, October, 390 days at $1	
n ii     November, 133| days at $1	
Use of work mules, 14 days at $3	
Cash paid Frank Miller	
J. Lemarshe ,	
C. Hurley	
Ed. Smith	
Alb. Koning	
Chester MeAdam	
32
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42
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101
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806
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390
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133
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102
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118
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$4,045
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Vancouver, B. C, 28th December, 1893.
Dear Sir,—The enclosed  plan should have  accompanied  my letter to you of to-day's
date regarding the road from the 108-Mile House, but was omitted.
Yours truly,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
Hon. Forbes G. Vernon, President.
Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C.
Victoria, B. C, February 16th, 1894.
Sir,—If an examination has been made of the work done upon the road from the
108-Mile House to the Horsefly Mines, I beg to request that you will kindly forward a report
upon the same to me without delay.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
F. Soues, Esq., Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
Government Agent, Clinton, B. G. 716 Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 1895
Government Office,
Clinton, B. C, February 19th, 1894.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 16th inst. asking
if an examination has been made of the work done upon the road from the 108-Mile House to
the Horsefly Mines. In reply I beg to say that I sent Supt. Barton over the road in
question in November last, and he found that the work done had not been in accordance with
the specifications, in fact, in a most unsatisfactory manner throughout, and therefore would
not pass it. Nothing has been done on it since, and, while material is being hauled over it at
present, it is covered with from two to three feet of snow.
I have, etc..,
(Signed)        F. Soues,
Government Agent.
W. S. Gore   Esq.,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria.
24th April, 1894.
Sir,—I have the honour to enclose herewith statements of the amount expended on the
road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly, and the formal voucher for the $3,000, which the
Government were to refund this Company.
I have signed the receipt in blank, so that you can fill it up with the amount, which I
understand the Government are going to refund now, namely, $2,000, and I would like to get
the cheque for that amount as soon as convenient.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
W. S. Gore, Esq., President.
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C.
Victoria, B. C, May 11th, 1894.
Sir,—Referring to your letter of the 24th ultimo, enclosing statements of the amount
expended on the road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly, I send you herewith a cheque for
$3,000.
I have etc.,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
H. Abbott, Esq.,
President, Horsefly Hydraulic Mining Co.,
Vancouver, B. G.
12th May, 1894.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge receipt of your favour of the 11th instant,
enclosing cheque for $3,000, on account of the expenditure made on the road from 108-Mile
House to Horsefly Mines.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        H. Abbott,
W. S. Gore, Esq., President.
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria, B. C. 58 Vict. Road from 108-Mile House to Horsefly. 717
Government Office,
Clinton, August 7th, 1894.
Sir,—Adverting to your letter of the 16th February last, re road from 108-Mile House to
Horsefly, I have the honour to inform you that Mr. Barton, Road Superintendent, has
reported to me to-day that he has examined the road in question, and passed it as finished
according to specifications.
I have, etc.,
(Signed)        F. Soues,
W. S. Gore, Esq., Government Agent.
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works,
Victoria.
Vancouver, January 1st, 1895.
Mr. Gore.
Sir,—Would you kindly let me know if the Horsefly Mining Company has been paid for
cutting road from 108-Mile House to their claim, and at what time they received the money
(if paid), and oblige
(Signed)        Chester McAdam.
P.S.—I might say here I have done this work and have not been paid yet.
C. McA.
Victoria, B.C., January 3rd, 1895.
Sir,—I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 1st inst., and in
reply to your inquiry beg to say that the appropriation made by the Government in aid of the
construction of a road from the 108-Mile House to the Horsefly Hydraulic Mines was paid to
Mr. H. Abbott last May.
I have, &c,
(Signed)        W. S. Gore,
Deputy Commissioner of Lands and Works.
Chester McAdam, Esq.,
Vancouver, B.C.
VICTORIA, B.C.:
Printed by Richard Wolkbkdkn, Printer to the Queen's Most Excellent Majesty.
1895.

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