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Array General Conference S>ail£ JSullettn
Devoted Specially to the Proceedings of the General Conference Session of the Methodist Church
Vol. I. No. 12
M IW RIPHON CKK.I.-50 cenls lor Ihe
Complete   »-rirv       rj   <ents   per   copy.
Better Organization of Methodist Press
i By Editor of Daily Bulletin)
There is evidently a general and growing feeling of the Inadequacy <»f our con»
in xional press, under present arrangements, to meet the needs and demands of
the Church. Not only are we growing
tremendously, especially in the.West, hut
we are organized and departmentalized
into such complexity and large effectiveness that it has become impossible to
give each department and all parts of
the country the room they need for the
proper publicity and advocacy of their
enterprises. We cannot here elaborate on
anything; but we see the situation as
others see it and ask as all are doing,
What is to be done?
The matter of course has been before
the Publishing Committee, as it was four
years ago. We arc'not on the Committee, nor on any committee and know little
of the various points of view taken there,
hut we understand that more than one
idea was debated—Western and Eastern
and Central insets to the Guardian,
Western and Eastern sub-editors, or,
perhaps, even a Western Guardian and
publishing house. We understand also.
that the second of these ideas, in part—
the appointment of a Western editor to
the Guardian—is to be recommended;
not perhaps as an ultimate policy but as :i
irmporary expedient.
We cannot discuss, here to any length
how this plan is likely to work out. Its
advocates will no doubt enlighten the
Conference on that; but we venture to
predict it will not meet the demands of
the situation do what you will with it ,
and it will have the effect of hampering
the judgment of the editor-in-chief in
Toronto who will feel compelled to leave
intact the pages supplied by his Western
a -1'date. It will also affect what one
might call the unity force of the Guardian
because one section of it at any rate is
reserved for the views of one section of
the church, and only the remaining part
of the paper may speak for the whole
and perhaps not for the whole but for the
v ule less the section represented by the
Western Editor's pages.   Presently nor-
wi sections and southern sections and
cistern sections—even Newfoundland
and our mission fields—may look for similar privileges, and one will begin to
watch with interest to discover the re-
s 'Usefulness of the Editor-in-chief—not
as a writer he will have no room for that
- hut as a compiler and classifier, so as
1 ,i,rive due recognition to the duly appointed sectional editors and their respective territories. Seriously, what will
become of the old Guardian if this policy
is carried out in logical development."
and wdiat kind of a chance will its editor
have? Surely as a permanent policy this
is nut of the question; but the question is
What Should be Done?
We have given some thought to this
and submit a suggestion, regretting however, that we can submit it only in outline :
hirst, the time has come to recognize
°nce for all that The Methodist Church
'ike the Dominion of Canada is a vast
concern called to grapple with the most
far-reaching problems and responsibilities, and in order to rise to its full duty
it miisi una organize its press on a comprehensive plan. In ihe first place the
Guardian should no longer be available,
speaking generally, for ordinary local
church new,. It should be lifted to the
more important plane of the (ieneral Conference Organ and practically, almost
exclusively, reserved, for the discussion
of our great connexional problems as the
forum for the whole church; as the publicity friend of all the Departments and
as the supreme implement, by means of
which we may hope to exert our proper
influence upon the public mind on ques-
tions of national, moral consequence.
If we will do this and exalt the (iuardian
forever above parochial impediments we
shall at once assume a position of dignity
and greater prestige in the country. In
order to do this one extra appointment
should be made to the (iuardian staff,
viz.. a thoroughly strong field agent, devoting his whole time to the matter of
circulation. If this be done on an adequate basis there should be reported, four
years hence, not 19,000 but nearer 50,000
subscribers to the great connexional organ of the Church.
I bit if we deal with the Guardian in
this manner, what about local interests
and matters East and West, which now
are inadequately reported and represented?
That introduces the second part of our
plan: It should be provided for by the
establishment of
Rev. Thos. Derrick
One nf the Most  Picturesque and Beloved "i
Pioneer Missionaries <>f Ii   C.
Annual Conference Papers
for Annual Conference purposes. The
objection i<> this will at once be the question of cost. Hut this may prove only
an imaginary difficulty; for with the appointment of the right men to manage
the Annual Conference papers they
should pay their way.
( >ur article is already growing too long
or detail could here be suggested, but
think how this would work out: (1) The
Church would then have a Press organization which exactly coincided with ils
church organization—covering (ieneral
Conference and Annual Conference needs
(and the associated Methodist Press for
the world might follow). Annual Conference papers if competently edited—as of
course they would be—would condense
from week to week, or month to month
as the case might be, the thoughts and
aspirations of their respective Conferences and from all of these, coming regularly before him, the Editor of the
great connexional organ in Toronto
would gather an intelligent insight into
the thought of the wdiole church and be
able to crystalize it into articles for us all.
Is not the idea worth thinking about?
Does it not suggest a policy equal to the
case and indespensible to our future development?
The General Conference has pronounced in a most emphatic manner, in favour
of Church Union. Following so chisel;.
upon the equally decisive vote of the
Genera] Assembl) of the Presbyterian
Church, it practically assures a successful issue to the main years of deliberation by the Joint Committee, and although the matter has of course to be
submitted to the Church Courts for the
members themselves to finally decide, i:
is not too much to say that a united
front of Methodists, Presbyterians and
Congregationalists, is a probability in a
few years' time. The significance of this
fusion no one can overestimate. It has
a profound relation to the uplift nf men.
and the overthrow of the kingdom of
darkness. No one will accuse either
party of hurry or indiscretion; for more
than ten years the movement has been
taking shape, and in the natural order of
things il must necessarily be close upon
another ten before the Union can be actually   in   operation   should   the   people  so
+    *    *
There will be much searching of heart,
in spite of the large and favourable majority. There are those who will cling
to the merely historic side of the situation; they will not be altogether willing to surrender the sectarian preferences
and   preconceptions    which     naturally
gather strength as the years roll on.     In
the strictly denominational Rama. Rachel
will weep for her children, and refuse
comfort, because—according to the label
—they are no). For all such, we must
have a generous respect and patience. I 0
become adjusted to the new conditions
will take time. When two mighty rivers
merge, on their way to the mightier sea,
for a considerable distance the) retain
their individual colour and force, by rea
son of the impetus gathered in their long
descent from the watershed among the
hills. Ii is equally true that for a short
time with some, there maj be a sense nf
separation rather than fusion, bin ii can
only be for a briel period with all whose
hearts < rod has touched.
* *   *
Napoleon used to say that the proper
time to bring up the cavalrj was when the
enemy began to waver. At this critical
time in the history of moral progress, a
united front to the enemy nf righteousness is of immense importance. Il would
be the best apologetic of modern time-,
and would strike terror into the hearts
of all whose business il is tn destroj the
Christian Church. More and more in ail
our .Mission fields we are seeing the
folly of overlapping and waste force: the
heathen heart, unconscious of divine
grace wonders in bewilderment at the divisions in Christendom: if these things
are done in a green tree, what shall be
done in the dry?
* *    *
A Prophetic Vision
Arminius and Calvin meet! strange but
true. Softened by the strife and sorrow
of the past they emerge from the dark-
days of bitterness and martyrdom, and
by the Cross of a Redeeming Christ they
join hand and heart. For centuries they
fought each other, now they will light the
common foe of mankind—sin, and its
sorrow and suffering, and by the fusion
of force the bringing in of the Kingdom
of God—is more speedily assured.
A Challenge and An Appeal
1 By Investigator)
It is a phenomenon of singular moment
that is abroad in the world; which no
one who does not shut his eyes, or ears,
can ignore. On all sides there is manifest a burden that is pressing on men's
hearts. Ymi meet with it at unexpected
turns. Whether in tidings from far-off
lands; whether in ecclesiastical gatherings assembled for clerkly business:
whether in everyday speech nf man with
man—it is ever the same. It is everywhere at bottom first and foremost a
great confession nf wain, a great heart-
cry for something which we have not but
which we most painfully desire; and then
a challenging call tn the church tn mobilise her forces in furtherance of a mission and commission to which she is
Il is the recognition of this that is indicated in the various steps, haltingly and,
hesitatingly taken, from time tn time,
looking in the direction nf a closer coordination of Christian forces. It found
expression in the great Council at Kdin-
boro, which may prove tn be the greatest
in  moral  potency  since   Pentecost.    Jt
was no less in evidence in ihe decision
revealed in (ieneral Conference solemnly
to go forward in the determination to
bring together under a common polity
the varied activities nf at least three
great historic bodies; and in the high resolve to set to work tn discover for our
own Church some effective means of
evoking and directing its energies in a
broad and comprehensive evangelism
adequate tn the needs and suited to the
Do we mean business? N'ol as tn
Church Union—which in itself is a minor
consideration- but on the all paramount
question of vitalizing personal religion?
Do  we  mean  business  m  ihe proposed
effort in quicken the Bense nf the whole
1 'Inirch tn its prime dutj   in men ?
Do we mean business as regards a
common sense policj nf earnest evangelism, si 1 as to bring everywhere men face
tn face with the Lord Jesus Christ?
It  is by all odds the great! ~1  business
to which the Conference can address itself: and if as result of well-thought
plans and wise and Strong leadership the
total working-forces nf the Church can
be brought tn share in a baptism of fire
and of power, it shall prove to be a matter of rejoicing in generations to come.
There is ever and anon a pathetic note
of hope which breaks forth from some
human spirit in its cry that something
mav result; some pathetic wistftilne-s
on the part of one and another that our
labour and travail may not be in vain.
\\ e all—whatever our school of thought
—desire a connexion-wide revival, far-
reaching, genuine, determinative. We
know it cannot be effected by order. Xo
committee nr combination of committees
can bring it about. It all depends on
whether we mean business. And this
necessitates qualifications, not lightly acquired, of mingled honesty and charity,
and carry it out in all the reaches and
bounds of life.
The act of self-effacement in the vote
registered has its spiritual value for other
generations to remark. Meanwhile tile
call to pray strikes sometimes on strange
ears.   Do we mean business? GENERAL CONFERENCE DAILY BULLETIN
Great Debate on Church Union
(Continued  from  Yesterday)
E. M. Davis, M.P.
How much time they took to explain
our  divisions.    Think  of  the  money
it   will   save   for  our   foreign   work!
Look at Canada with its possibilities.
Think of an immigration in  1909 of
700 people ;i day.   Think of 000 a day
since January ist, 1010.   The call is
to give the Gospel to this vast multitude.     The  other  denominations   cry
for   Union   and   the   lime   for   Union
is   DOW   in   the   interest  of  this  great
West.   How we are crowded in many
churches   where   one   would   do   the
work better.
In   Old   Ontario   we   could   release
one-half of the men and much money
and   send    them   where    more   were
needed.     Your   salaries   are   wrapped
up  in   this   question  of  Union.     Wc
could   pay  one   man  well  in   a  town
if we could take away three or four.
Some of you arc cabined cribbed, confined.    Your field is too confined.    I
wonder    that     the     brainy     doctor
Griffin  should   see   danger  along  the
line of this Superannuation  Fund. I
can trust the ministers and laymen to
carry out in good faith any plan the
United Church may propose.
J. W. Cooley Speaks
Dr.  Sparling and  I were the only
members of this  Conference  on  the
Sub-Committee that dealt    with    the
settlement    of    the    Superannuation
Fund. Dr. Griffin has always been on
the line of peremptory demand. We
met  the  Presbyterians  on  the  basis
of sweet reasonableness.   We showed
that  any system  of assessment  was
an evolution growing out of original
alocation.    They   thought   that   allocation  naturally grew    into    assessment.    I met Dr. Griffin next morning and said "You had to  come  to
my terms." "No," said the Doctor; "[
didn't say that.   I said 'You'll have to
come to my terms."   Under the present system, we have had our claims
reduced  by  10 per cent. Assessment
is  here  proposed  and  so  the    principle is  here preserved.    The  collection of contributions is considered in
this basis as obligatory, and demands
that the claimants shall be protected,
and their claims must be made good
no matter what  the allocations  may
have been.    There is to be no deficit.     Dr.   Sparling   made   it   a   little
more classical  when  he said:  "There
ain't going to be no core."   The General trend of the Presbyterian Church
has been to carefully provide for its
superannuated men.    They with their
voluntary plan have their superannuation conditions in better shape than
ours is.    They  pay  100 cents on  the
dollar to their claimants.  ("What il
their claim," said one, but there was
no reply.)
I can trust the Presbyterian Church
to do its duty by this Fund. You
cannot put stronger guarantee into a
basis than we have lure, so that Dr.
Griffin's strictures fall to ihe ground.
I. Hilliard, Esq.—We have not yet
had an analytical enquiry into this
basis. Look at your discipline, page
12, and see how it views the Diety of
Jesus Christ; then road what the
Westminster Confession says about
Jesui Christ. Why cannot we put
in these words: "Very God of (ind.'
Your basis will be a breeding ground
f"r .ill kinds of Unitarian preaching.
(I'rirs nf "No; no.")    Some say  that
would make our creed too long, but
the creed would not be longer.    Distinct  known and  accepted terms and
you open the gate to all sorts of speculations.    I oppose the Union because
it destroys the Itinerancy.   They arc
taking   away   the   true   limit   in   this
basis of Union and they give- us nothing in its place.   The settlement committee put in the place of our  Stationing Committee destroys our Itinerancy.    This  Settlement  Committee
is not to be called into operation unless there is a quarrel.    These other
Churches have not the genius of stationing  their  ministers.     I   stand   by
our Methodist system because it protects our ministers.    I want this basis
sent back to the  Committee to  add
some words to  protect  these points.
The Deity of it. The Itinerancy, and
our Funds, then too, we have not yet
enough evangelism with which to enter   Union. Let   us   postpone   it  until
we gather all the    benefit    accruing
from the Laymen's Missionary movement.
Dr. Stewart—Most that has been
said is aside from the mark. The
question before us is not accept this
basis, but to view it as a platform on
which we may come together and
then introduce what we wish to make
a  perfect  doctrine, a  perfect  polity
SJld a perfect Church. We are not to
view our rules as ever Continuing
structures. Our laws are not those of
Ihe .Medics and Persians thai rhaug-
cth nd. This is an age of progress.
\\ e want ii• > ironclad law; we want
liberty.     Sucfa   is   the   purpose   of  our
present vote. Is this basis a reasonable platform on which we may come
together and consider the wisdom of
Union. Many of the criticisms are
aside of the mark. In Sanctilication
as a  doctrine the  Basis proposes a
view as Mcthodistie as ever we have
lit Id. There are great world-wide
movements today. Never were there
so  many open  doors as  today.   Has
that any significance? Xevcr was
there so much marshalling of the
forces as today. God has brought il
about and the mission of the Church
is mobilize, centralize, unify your
forces, to win the world fur Jesus
Rev. Darwin moved an amendment
that the Basis be referred to our
Quarterly Hoards District Meetings,
and Conferences of this year. This
amendment was considered at first as
not in order under the present discussion.
Rev. A. M. Sanford gave a notice
of amendment as follows: That the
Conference cordially receive the Basis.    This was not put by the Chair.
A Voice—We can't hear in the gallery.
The Chair—We are not talking to
the gallery.
Judge  McLaren—Never did   I  feel
that   a   greater   responsibility   rested
upon  me.    1   am  in  an  embarrassed
condition.     1   have   debated   whether
I should address this Conference, but
as Chairman of the Union Committee
I  must  give an  account.    Union   or
no-Union, there are both advantages
and   disadvantages.    As  a   matter   of
sentiment   I   am  a  Unionist.     I   have
ties few in this Conference. My father lived and died a Presbyterian. My
mother   was   a   Presbyterian   till   her
four children  were converted  in  the
Methodist   Church   and    she    joined
that   body   only   when   she   felt   any
other action would not be of help to
her family.    I am    in    sentiment    a
strong Unionist.    I  am here  to  discuss the Basis as to its polity.    I am
not able to discuss the doctrinal side
of things.     In  the  Union Committee
meetings  the  Methodist and  Presbyterian representatives were generally
a unit, but the Congregational Church
said through their representatives that
their Churches  would  riot go  so far.
But we went on with our work after
we got all the compromise we could.
That is  how we settled the "polity"
as you sec it  in  the  Basis.    Xovv as
In  law.    The powers  of our General
Conference   have  certain   restrictions,
but  in  the   Basis  we are  taking  preliminary  steps  toward  action  that   is
unconstitutional     in     respect     to   the
powers   of   the   United   Church.     In
our     Union     of     1K84    our    uniting
churches   were  swept   into   Union   as
In property by acts of the Dominion
parliament, whether they'willed il  or
not.     Xow    I    have   to   say:      After
the  best   polity  we  have  hern  able  lo
get. after due consideration of it,  I
am compelled In say that the polity
as we have it is not One I can votl
for or ask any one else tn vote for.
In  our  present  proposed  basis  any
single   congregation   may   stand   outside with its various properties, where
such is held as a congregation.    Such
is the sessencc of Congregationalism,
and  seriously affects  the  question  of
Union.    When  we Went  into   Union
in   1884 one man  met  us at the  Dominion Parliament to oppose the Act
and to please and protect him it was
put into the act that  nothing in  the
Act should  disturb the  vested  rights
of any individual, sowing how charry
a   parliament   is   in   making   an   Act
when   a   minority    remains     outside.
Such is the case in Scotland.    "The
Wee   Fres"   have   the   property   and
they have  not a minister for many a
mause, and in many cases there is no
congregation to put in many of their
churches.    Regarding this matter an-
< ther ilustration is seen in the   U.  S.
A minority of Presbyterians remained
outside   of   a   Union   movement   and
they   to-day   hold   all   the   property,
and I think such will obtain in Can-
N.  W.  Rowell,  K.  C—An Inspiring
and Convincing Address.
This   legal    basis   of    the   United
Church  is  of great moment,  and wc
should  listen  with   due  consideration
to the  remarks of Mr. Justice  Mac
laren. said Mr. N. W. Rowell.    I was
the  Chairman  of the Committee on
Law   in   the   Union   Committee.     We
had  in   that   Committee   members   of
the  Bar from each dcnoinin i''">>, and
wi;   vi ere   a   unit   in   our   C.nclusi-MlS.
We  must   first  get  an  Act  of  Parlia
ineiil making tu a United Church, and
unless  we get  such an  Act   there will
be no  Union,  hence we differ in  this
respect  from  the  Union  referred t"
111   the   Union   111   I', ill   Scotland   and
the United Stales, where in each case
they  consummated    Union   lirst    and
sought the Act of Parliament after
ward.   As to tin- propertj  of an individual     cl:>. 1'i    Ihe     entire   I 'iii ui
Committee    in     1907    and     i<><>8   endorsed  the  basis   in  its recommendations   in   this   respect,   and   today   is
the first time I have beard objections
to it.
This basis does not cover in its
allowance of churches to stand outside anything, but exceptional cases,
where some particular trust is held
outside of any connexional claim.
To make this clear we have a clause
to deal with any property held "solely" for some particular church or
1 do not think such would exempt
any church from coming  nto tlic Union    (hat  is    held  tinder    our Model
Deed.     Any   Church     or     Fund     on
whirh   there   is   any   connexional   tie
would have  to come into the  Union.
As   to    the   Congregational     Church,
their   property   is   held   in   trust   in
relation   to   their   Mission   Board   so
that in  a  sense  they have a  connexional   reservation   which   is  a   tie  on
the  property  that  would   prevent  its
being   sold   by   an   individual   church.
More   of   a   connexional  tie  is   manifest   in   relation   to   the   Presbyterian
Church.    You could not ask any Parliament     to     legislate     any     church
holding its own  property into a Union.    The only  way to do is to  let
them   come  in   if   they  would.    The
Presbyterian   Church  when  they united allowed any  church  to  stay out
that   so   desired.     Only   11   did   so,
and since that time nearly every one
has come into the Union.
This   Basis   proceeds  on  the  basis
that   all   connexional   property   must
come into the Union.    Wc go into it
by Acts of Parliament, both   Dominion and Provincial, on the very basis
on   which   they   deal   with   property.
Now  as  to  the   merits  of the  case:
The  one   note   in   the  World's   Missionary    Congress    more    significant
than any other it was that of closer
unity and organization in the Church
that  she  might   better  do  her  work
Corea,    India   and    everywhere   they
come the call for Union.    They had
no   interest   in   our   history   and   in
your traditions.    If you  will  not let
us unite in these  foreign  fields then
wc must unite without you.   The prevailing  of    the   great    fundamentals
will convert the foreigner in heathen
lands,   and   if   it   will   do   it   there,   it
must  be able to do it here.    In  that
Congress,  while   the  official   declaration    was    for     inter-denominational
comity, but every man of them frankly   avowed   that    organic   union   was
nearer Ihe ideal.    Mr.  Rowell showed
thai   John   Wesley   was   for   liberty,
quoting,   he   said-     "The   Methodists
alone think and let think, nor do they
impose one special  form of worship."
I  know  of no  such  liberty in  any
Church since Apostolic days,   "I want
a   league     offensive     and   defensive,
with   Jesus   Christ."     "I   do  not   care
for   their   opinions   any  more   than   I
care for their astronomy."   The question  is:  "Is  my heart  right  with   thy
heart?    Opinion  is  not  religion,  persons may have right opinion and not
be  religious,  and   people may  be  religious   and     hold   many     erroneous
opinions."    Now, if by this Union we
can be more efficient in fulfilling the
purpose for which Union was brought
into existence, then Union lies in the
very genius of Methodism.
Bishop  Honda's  Farewell
August 20th,  j 9
At this point the debate was suspended that the Conference might
listen to words of frewell from Fraternal Delegates.   Bishop Honda said:
Fathers and Brethren: During the
past week I have been always with
some of you. How to express my
heart I do not know. I cannot say
one-half I feel. My vocabulary is so
limited. I have been learning something from you every day. I have
visited the Japanese Missions in British Columbia, and have seen how you
love our people. I leave to-day for
Seattle. I want to see our people on
this Coast. I go back to my people
remembering your love. Pray for us;
we pray for you. You arc an inspiration to us and our work and with
my heart full of love I say goodbye.
To the ^^s^s^s^s^s^s^s^H
Delegates and Visiting Friends
Methodist Conference, 1910
Some men make their money in business, some in stocks,
some by toilsome saving of the daily wage, but we submit to you
the unquestioned fact that more men have reached a comfortabli
competence through the Ownership of Property than in any
other way.
Business requires your sole attention, stocks mean sleeplesj
nights and days of worry, Property works by itself for you
without your care.
Do not be looking for the IMPOSSIBLE trade, the bargaitj
so good, so sure a cinch, that you will never find it.
The man that takes advantage of a fair legitimate trade setj
it earning dividends in a live and lively way.    REALISE the
benefit that the seeker after the impossible flatters himself he may
attain, if he waits long enough.
One gets his in the Bank, the other has it in his mind—
THAT is the difference.
Do not wait for the impossible, utilize some of the good
trades which are coming up every day.   We have some good ones
in the Bulkley Valley along the line of the Grand Trunk Pacific
which we venture to say will enhance in value very rapidly.
Here are a specimen few:—
160 acres S. W. section of Lot 849, Section 16, Township 21
This quarter section is adjoining the Hudson's Bay Co.
Ranch, the Dominion Government telegraph trail or road
passes through this quarter-section, the larger part is open
prairie land with some spruce and light poplar.   The spruce
forms a very small portion of the wooded area, and the light
poplar is very easily cleared.    The Hudson Bay Co., we
understand, were offered $25 per acre for their land.   The
land is for the most part very level.   The soil is black
vegetable mould.    Price $15 per acre—$2,400.
160 acres S. E. quarter section of Lot 850, Section 9,
Township 2a.    Half of this land is open and in grass.
A small tract of marsh land is on the property.   There is
a rapid creek two feet in width with low banks, running
through a portion of it.   Timber growth is poplar and willowl
This is a very fine section.   Price $12 per acre—$1,920.
640 acres, Lot 877, Section 9, Township 4, 30 to 40 acres anj
open land, soil is a rich black loam.   Land is level, small
creek on property, treed with poplar and spruce.   About half |
a mile from the Government road, and about two and one-hal
miles from Telkwa, about one mile from McLure Lake, and
about one and cne-quarter miles from the railway.
Price $9 per acre—$5,760.
160 acres N. E. quarter section of Lot 781, Section 13, 1
Township 6; soil is a black vegetable mould, treed with small|
poplar gently undulating.    Price $9 per acre—$1,440.
160 acres S. E. one-eighth section of Section 31, and E. half
of S. E. quarter of Section 31, Township 6.    About 25 per ccntj
is open with some fallen willow, and some poplar.   Soil is
a black vegetable mould, a portion of it good grazing land.
Price $g per acre—$1,440.
640 acres N. E. quarter of N. half of Lot 1216, E. half 1
Lot 1210, S. W. quarter of W. half of Lot 1212, Section 28,
Township 6.   This is an exceptionally good property, with a
southern slope, one and one-quarter feet subsoil of black
vegetable mould, a beautiful spring, and just enough spruce
for farmers' requirements.    Considerable wild hay has been J
cut and stacked.    Nearly all could be put under cultivation j
without much effort.    Pre-emptor with 200 acres in Timothy
adjoins.    Price $13 per acre—$8,320.
We believe that whoever purchases these lands at prices     j
quoted will make very handsome profits by the time the RailroaJ
arrives.   We have personally selected these lands and we are
willing to guarantee any statement made.
D. C. Reid, Presidenj
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And knap Informed Regarding
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It will pay you to call on
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337 Hastings St. W.,
Vancouver, B.C.,
when looking for
The Observation Car leaves corner of Granville
and Robson streets at 9.30 a.m., 2 and •» p in.— a
pleasant trip of two hours through the city.
Interurban ears leave hourly for Slevesion. See
the fishing licet and the caiinen
Interurban cars leave half-hourly for Xew
The Sight-Seeing Car leaves corner of Government and Vales streets at 9 15 a in. and 2.15 p.m.
Car stops over at Oak Bay, The Gorge and F.s<|ui-
malt, giving lime to visit these beautiful places.
Western Prosperity
66 by 120 on i6th Avenue.    Price $2,950.
$1,000 cash, balance (> ami  12 months,
Car passes this way.
J. H. Craig, Pres.
1150 Granville St., Vancouver, B.C.
Branch Office: Cor. of Maple and Sixth Avenue
Phones 2242 and 4123 - - Victoria Phone 1509
What they say about Vancouver
British Columbia
J. J. Hillv in a Public Address—
W. E. Curtis, in the Chicago "Record-Herald"
Vancouver has not' yet started on its for-        Stanley Foresl has nine miles of roadways
ward career.   I see a day coming when half a    ;'"<l twenty-two miles of footpaths, with here
score of lines from Northern liritish Columbia
will converge on Burrard Inlet. You have
untold wealth in the seas, the greatest timber
resources on the continent and mineral assets
that will make British Columbia the greatest
province in the Dominion.
ami there benches upon which pedestrians maj
rest. The roads are in perfect condition. I
wish the California!! Commissioners of the
Yosemite Valley could sec them.    I do not
know of a more lovely drive. In all my travels
I have never seen a more unique or attractive
park than this.
First Mortgage Loans on
improved City Property in
Vancouver yield from 6 to 8
per cent. We have made
this department a special
feature of our business for
the past 18 years and are in
a position to place money
for clients with absolute
security. Collection of interest and principal undertaken.
Correspondence   solicited.
J,}. Banfield
607   Hastings St. W.,
VANCOUVER,      -      B. C.
9.65 Acres
Near Port Kells in Langley;
('. \. R. line runs close by.
Station expected near but
not yet located; two and
one-halt miles from Port
Kells Station. G. X. R , and
same distance from River
landing. Good soil and
easily cleared.
Price, $1,000.00
Terms — ()ne-quarter cash,
and the balance over 0, 12.
18 and 24 mos. at 7 per cent.
Mark & Co
403 Pender Street
740 Columbia Street,
Beaver Oil Stock Advanced from 10 Cents
to 15 Cents per Share, Par Valne, $1.00
We gave notice they would advance at a certain date, and those who
did not buy are now sorry.
However, we have allotted 20,000 shares more, at 15 cents per share,
and buy now before we raise the price, which surely will result very
Evidence of Oil strata and already Oil gas being encountered, justify
advancing prices to 20 cents or 25 cents per share.
However, our Board decided placing a small allottment at 15 cents
per share to give intending purchasers the privilege to buy at that price
before advancing them to the 20 or 25 cents. Do not hesitate if you
wish to secure shares at 15 cents.
Our Company holds about 4,000 acres of Oil land, and when Oil is
struck our stock will soar to phenominal figures.
The well is now nearing 900 feet in depth, and expect encouraging
reports in the near future.
For further particulars, or shares, apply to the following:
A. D. Paterson, 570 Granville St.   R. D. Rorison & Son, 786 Granville St.   P. LeFeurve, 2141 Granville St.
E. W. Leeson, 329 Pender Street West.       T. J. Beatty, 317 Pender Street West. GENERAL CONFERENCE DAILY BULLETIN
General Conference Dailp
Devoted specially to the Proceedings
of  the  General   Conference  of
The   .Methodist    Church,
August,  1910.
mtinued from Page Two.)
Dr. Du Bose's Farewell.
"1 came to you in tear tad trem-
bliii. tie  of  my  unfitness1
lack of ability as a representath
leave you strong in a confidence in
your love ami fellowship. A fanner
of several -"lis in the Sooth had a
son John, whom he sent to be educated for the ministry. On hi- return the lather would ; resent his son
before the congregation, and John
having entered the pulpit, beat about
the bush and came out weeping. The
father met him at the door and said:
'My son, if you had come in as yon
go out you might have come as yon
went   in.' "
I   am   delighted   that   you   can   ce-
ceive a man  who cannot  us a  If. S.
Two   Presbyterian    preachers,  one
who  studied  theology and  wrote his
sermons, founds his work lacking in
effect, while the other who knew no
theology and  wrote  no  sermons, but
who  blazed away  in the  pulpit  and
found    his    congregations     increase.
Th !dr said. *'My brothr. how is this
that I who know so much about thol-
ogy  tind my congregations  so small,
and  you  who    have    not     been   so
trained,   are     finding    such   success.
The   younger   said.   "When   you
down   on   Sunday  morning  to   write
your   sermons  the   devil   looks   over
your shoulder, he knows every word
you are going to say. and  he steals
away  the  hearts  of your  congregations.   On the other hand, when I get
up on Sunday to preach, not even the
devil knows what I am going t-
The message 1 shall take back to
my   people   will   inspire   them   with
emulation.   I have annexed to myself
a larger measure of fellowship, taken
in many edible; and a large amount
of your British Columbia air.    I have
seen many faces of men whom I lore.
Dr. Sparling. Dr. Briggs. Judge Mac-
Laren. Dr Young and others.    I have
been   delighted   at   and   profited   by
your proceedings.    I had an idea you
\\;re a quiet body, but I have been
undeceived.    The celerity of some of
your  conclusions    remind    me  of a
story of a railroad train and a razor-
back pig.   The train ran over the pig
and killed it. and the owner brought
action  for damages against the company.    The judge had before him an
old darkey, the only witness, and said
to him:    "Can  you  tell  us  in  a  few
words   how    this   pig    was   killed?''
"Yes,   Judge.   I   kin.     The  train   just
up and tuk him.'-    So. .Mr.  President,
when the railway train of your
lution-   comes  into a  union  depot, it
does   not    rtop   for   any   razor-back
I am impressed with your spirit of
fellowship : nd brotherhood     i have
been all over your Canada     You have
.1 country of great homogeneity     We
are  greatly interested  in your   •
for Church  Union.    It is unthinkable
lo U! , but the experiment will  -
in a comity that will be worth  all the
anxiety you  have  put  into it.     There
are  some  -:crii. of  Union in our  own
land      There    is   an   effort     now   to
change our name to "The Methodist.
Episcopal Church of America."   This
was the name in   1^4.
The name M. E. Church of United
States of America came about as an
accidental use of this phrase in a congratulatory letter to the Bishops from
General Washington. We shall be delighted in our next Conference to
meet the representatives you may
send to us. Our interest in you deepens and grows.
"God  be with    you  till    we  meet
again,"    Appropriate words were said
by the General Superintendent.
Debate on Church Union Resumed.
The  debate on  Church Union  was
anticipated by many in the afternoon
With     eager     interest.     and     many
were   preparing  great   speeches,   but
suddenly   Dr.   Williamson     appeared
and moved that the vote be taken, and
this carried by a large majority.   Rev.
A. M. Sanford suddenly sprang to his
feet,   claiming  a   right  to   speak   and
that he had been given to understand
that he could    be given    that right.
The Chair replied:    "The brother no
doubt  thought  he  would  speak   and
the Chair thought so too, hut  some
times mighty forces come in between.
The gavel sounded, and Mr. Sanford exclaimed: "If that is the way
Union is to be dtscnssed it 1- 1 sorry
day for Union. Chancellor Burwash
was allowed as mover of the original
motion,  to  speak  and  dose  the  de-
The Chancellor cleared the mind of
the  Conference si  to  tome  of  the
point-   of   doctrine.
Said he: "It 1- true each denomination has tone special doctrine to emphasise, Some deposit of truth to
preserve, but iu Union if we preserve
these deposits of troth we are
..tp ■ mightier body to pre-
and  maintain  this  truth."    The
Chancellor  dealt   with  the  doctrines
Deity of God, the Divinity of
K-ii- Christ and the work of the spirit
through the faith of the believer in
Regeneration. Justification and Sane-
tiftcation.    Here in the basis we have
loctrine  of Chrlstion  perfection
fully  preserved.
One of the strictest Presbyterians
in the Committee objected to this article on Christian Perfection and I
told him what I meant by it. I said,
"One of our deaconnesses in Toronto
went into a home of squalor, scrubbed the floor, washed and clothed the
children and prepared a meal for the
toiling father. That, said I, is
Christian Perfection, where self is forgotten in the love of men." Said the
Presbyterian: "If that is Christian
Perfection, then we want it and the
article passed.
The Conference now pressed for the
re-opening of the debate and the closure was lifted from the debate.
O. Darwin.
The histTy and philosophy of this
question has been well gone into.    I
have  no fear of  Union.    The  Committees have    had their    Pentecostal
:ild to God we had Pentecostal times 00 the tiring line when
the  practical  of  this  business  is.    I
am  more concerned about the spirit
oi the men than about the superannuation   fund   that   may   support   them.
The  Presbyterian Church says to its
people, "Union is not an accomplished
fact and stand by your guns," and I
say the Methodist Church should do
the same.
Rev. A. M. Sanford.
The amendment    of    Mr.  Sanford
was that as a conference we do not
approve of the Basis, but we simply
we cordially receive."   I am sat-
I   with   doctrines,   but   not   with
the polity here outlined.    I am sure
we   have  already   in   the  past   relinquished too much.   We must, I know,
send down this Union,  but not  with
oar approval, requesting that they receive lies  of Xo, no.)-   I would
not stamp it with our approval.    The
present  Basis dots  not meet the approval of all  the  Brethren, and  later
when  we come to amend it  we  shall
tind our hands tied.    I believe we can
unite   upon     t'lis     amendment.     We
avoid   division-   in   our   ranks,   which
are fatal to Union.    The minority  in
other  church,-     have    gone    out   to
-k against Union.
Let u- respect the thought of those
oppo-ed  to  Union.
Dr. J. W. Sparling.
We live in a marvellous age.    In an
age   where  living   i-   sublime.     I   opposed Methodist Union in 18K4. That
was one of the few mistakes I have
made.    Methodism and Presbyterian-
i-m   are   a   union   as   churches   today.
The -trcngth of   our   conferency is
manfesl to you all.    ft 1 God that is
pointing the way to the union of these
churches, and only in such  will  the
keen competition cease between these
churches.     The   nearer   churches   arc
alike the keener  the competition  between   them.     Five   years   after   the
union  of  Methodism  you  could   not
tell who was who     fCrit- of No, no.)
I   have  a  very  smart   son,  a  lawyer,
and  he  said    the  other    day  to  me,
"Father,   to  which   section   of   Meth
odsm do we belong?"
I   have   been   n   those   Pentacostal
meetngs   and   how   we   prayed   that
God   would   hinder   Us  if  it  was   not
His   will.    The   late   dear   Dr.   Potts
laid,  "You can't do it.    You cannot
unite Calvinism and Methodism," but
he   lived   to  take   back   those   words,
and he said:    "What I thought could
not be done I believe has been done."
Cries for the vote were now called
for   a   test  and   they   moved   to  take
the vote.    The result of the vote was
that by 220 to 35 the Conference approved   the     Basis   of    Union.     The
whole  assembly then  broke forth   in
the    Doxology,    "Praise    God    from
whom  al   lblessing  flow."
Many nomnatons were now sent in
for the fraternal delegates to the M.
E. Church, South. The vote was now
taken and resulted  in the election  of
Rev.   Dr.   Rose   as   Ministerial   Delegate.
Another Speaker on Union.
Brethren, I am not converted. I
am under conviction. I ought to go
into the enquiry room. I Some Suggested that be should be pat on
trial. 1 I'm i commercial traveller—I
h.ue been iii many places where I
have seen the need of an earthquake
from above before we are ready for
Union. Union reminds me of an old
medicne bottle, "shake well In-fore
using." Winn I remember what has
been done, when I see all action postponed for two years, J am led to pray
that   we   shall     be  ready     for   Union
when the time conn-. This speech
began at the North to journey and
came in at the close from the Soiilh.
The writer felt that either the world
Of the ipeaker had turned around
during the speech.
O. Darwin on His Feet.
I support the resolution that the
vote on this be taken in November.
Union is in the air, t has long been
11 the ar. Let's get t down on the
earth. Many are holding hack because we are in the air on this Union
question. The vote of this Conference says we are ripe for Union. Let
us not become rotten ripe and fall
off. Then say to the Presbyterian,
"Line up, let's do something to push
along this vote."
W. R. Young, D. D.
I   voted   against  the   Basis,   but   I
would not vote against Union.    I do
not thnk wc want to hurry.   I would
wait till the next General Conference
or even longer.    (Cries of No, no.)
Dr. S. P. Rose.
We should  move in  line with, our
Presbyterian   brethren.     Mr.   Darwin
says,  "Let  us   stampede   this  matter
and then say to the other churches,
'Hurry up.'"    We should take time.
We cannot do more wisely than follow the suggestions of the committee.
Clause was adopted.
The report on Evangelism was submitted, which provided for the appointment of a large staining committee for the more general encouragement and direction of the spirit of
evangelism throughout the churches,
Important' addresses were delivered
on the subject by Rev. Dr. Rankin of
Bland, and others.
Morning Session.
The reporter was delayed till 9:15
this a. m., but he was assured by
Brother Doyle that only the "ordinary" had happened to date. Some important items had been called for, but
it was edeided that these be laid over
til a few of the dstinguished members of Conference should arrive.
The first report to be presented was
that of the Committee on Missions,
which was handled by one of the
most "adroit" members of the conference, Rev. W. R. Young.
The first point to be discussed to
any   length   was   the   relation   of  the
Woman's   Missionary   Society  to  the
General  Missionary Society.
Judge McLaren.
This  is  a  serous  matter.     The W.
M. S. has avoided all friction thus far
with   Ihe     General   Society,     because
they are largely an educative and religious force operating by themselves,
and not interfering with  the work of
the General Soiiety.    This is the first
line of cleavage   I  have  seen;  it is
against     the     solemn      protestations
made at the begnning and it will by
no means bring good to our Method-
i-111 I do not think we should enter
our Sunday Schools and take 20 per
cenl of their funds for the W. M. S.
H. P. Moore.
This is one of the wisest pieces of
legislation I have ever heard. It will
increase our knowledge of Missions
and largely augment our Missionary
James Allan, M. A.
This matter is still in the hands of
the   Board.    The  W.  M.   S.   is  invaluable to us.    This provision you are
making is wise.    I hope it will carry.
W. H. Clarke.
To make such a claim on our Sunday Schools is an invasion of individual rghts. Although t s broughti n
as an allocaton by the General Board,
it is the same in principle as a demand. It will be prejudicial to the
General Fund in our Sunday Schools.
("Cries of Vote, vote! No, no, said
the chair, let the Chairman explain.
(To be continued)
Great ntercst is evinced in the announcement that Rev. Solomon Cleaver. D.D., has kindly consented to
lecture in Metropolitan Church on
Monday evening on the "Story of
"Jean Valgean," and it is certain the
building will be crowded. Tickets
are being sold at 25 cents each.
Many Styles and Prices in f|DP AIMC
Church,School and Parlor UnUnllO
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Every Instrument is carefully tested and
examined before having tin- factory and sold
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We have a large variety of cast designs am
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The THOMAS ORGAN is noted for Quality  of  Tone,   Promptness  of  Speech,   Light
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is   no   trouble  at  all.    There  wil' be|
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like all  our millwork  our doors art
chinery  can  do  it  and  that  is    tr
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house.    Come and  let  us  show    Oltl
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Successors to J. A. Sayward
Shall be pleased  to receive your inquiries for all kinds of
rough and dressed lumber; also sash, doors and interior finish.
All kinds of fruit boxes and crates constantly on hand.
B. C. Timber Dealers
Ask for our pamphlet giving general information re B.
C. Timber.
We employ our own cruisers and guarantee estimates.
Western Finance Co., Limited
(Robertson Bros.)
Lumber Exch. Building, Broughton St. W., Victoria, B.C. GENERAL CONFERENCE DAILY BULLETIN
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And a  full  supply of  high
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Phone 324 -  Victoria, B.C.
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Prices  Moderate
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We are consuming timber three times faster than it is growing. Do you wonder, therefor, that the increase in values is so rapid and so certain?. .We will gladly send you our booklet
which contains many interesting facts.
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Victoria, the Home City
Home-building, in Victoria is an Art. In
most cities it is an expedient. The burning
desire to live in a "flat" has not yet afflicted
Victoria's citizens to any appreciable extent.
There are all kinds of homes in the city ranging from the palatial to the modest, from the
mansion with many acres of lawn and garden,
to the retired little homes peeping out from
vines and flowers, lovely in their seclusion.
Visitors to Victoria are at once impressed
by this love for the beautiful which is so
typical of the city's entire surroundings. All
outlook, beauty; all season Summer might
well have been written of Victoria, since it is
rare, indeed, when the roses do not fling their
petaled fragrance into the air. From earliest
springtime until in other climes the drifts have
wrapped all Nature in a winding-sheet of spotless white, the flowers in British Columbia's
Capital City continue to blossom and send
their perfume abroad. Never a month but
what somewhere the flowers blow.
Difference and distinction mark the architectural beauties of the dwellings. Taste and
culture combine to make them dreams of loveliness and contentment. In many districts
the sea beckons; in many others the woods
stand bathed in sunshine or ruffled at times
with the plumes of passing winds. Hedges and
shrubbery wall in many of these houses, and
their gardens and lawns show everywhere the
patient and loving care of the owners.
Victoria, in the truest and most satisfying
spirit, is indeed "The City of Homes."
Lumber Co.
Manufacturers   and
Dealers in
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promptly and properly
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Phone Factory A750
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anything about the most
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Suits,  Veilings,  Neckwear
and     Gloves.     All     new
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Suits, Veilings, Neckwear
and    Gloves.      All    new
While travelling, there is nothing more serviceable than a Golfer, an outer garment that protects you against
inclement weather.   We draw your attention to our special values in Golfers:
Ladies' Golfers, with  and without military collars, in Golfers in three-quarter length, plain weave, with poc-
white, grey, navy, cardinal and black; fancy weaves. kets, in white and black.  Campbell's special at $6.75
Campbell's special   $2.75
Misses' Golfers, in navy and white, ages 6 to 12 years.
Ladies' Golfers, in fancy weave; white, navy, black, grey, Campbell's special  '$2.50
emerald and cardinal.   Campbell's special $3.75 ~,,j      ,   „ ,.      . ,.    .
Children s Golfers in cardinal and navy, with pockets and
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General Conference Proceedings
Transcript of Minutes
Thursday Afternoon, Aug. 25th, 1910
Conference resumed al 2J0 p.m.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D., General Superintendent, in the Chair
Devotional exercises were conduct
ed by Rev. J. E. Mavety, D.DH oi the
Montreal Conference.
Minutes of the Sixteenth Session
were  read and  confirmed.
Committee on Mission! was granted   permission   to  retire.
Moved by Kev. T. Albert Moore,
Seconded by X. W.  Rowell, K.C,
That the General Conference Special Committee be instructed to prepare an Agenda for the next General
That in the preparation of such
Agenda the Committee shall carefully consider the number and classification of the Committees so as to
insure the greatest efficiency and expedition in carrying on the Committee
work  of the  Conference:
That Resolutions, Memorials and
Xotices of Motion from the Annual
Conference, Districts, Ministers and
Members of the Church which are intended to be referred to Committees
shall, as far as possible, be forwarded
to the Agenda Committee of the Genera! Conference Special Committee,
which Committee shall distribute such
Resolutions, Memorials. Xotices of
Motion, etc., to the various Committees.—Carried.
Moved in Amendment by T. E.
Seconded by D. Stafford:
That all Memorials be placed in the
hands o flhe Secretary of the Conference at least ten days he/ore the
meeting of Conference, and no other
Memorials be received without the
special permission of Conference.—
The amendment was lost.
The motion was adopted.
Consideration of the report of the
Commission on "The Rules" was resumed.
Item  11  was adopted.
Item 2, which had been laid on the
Table until it should be printed, was
taken  up.
Item 2:—
Paragraph 35 of the Discipline
"Note.—The General Rules are to
he understood as forbidding neglect
of duties of any kind, inprudent conduct, indulging in sinful tempers and
words, the buying, selling or using of
intoxicating liquors as a beverage,
dancing, playing games of chance,
encouraging lotteries, attending theatres, horse-races, circuses, dancing
parties, patronizing dancing-schools,
taking such other amusements ;in art
obviously of a misleading or questionable moral tendency, and all acts of
disobedience to the order and Discipline  of the Church."
We recommend that the following
be substituted therefor:
"Par. 35. Note.—Mr. Wesley framed these rule* with no thought of
legalism after the manner of the
Ceremonial requirements of the Jewish economy and with no idea that
their outward observance would satisfy the claims of iht Christian religion His aim was personal holiness and spiritual power. These
Riiles in his conception of them, were
noi in any wist a human code to be
imposed arbitrarily on the Societies,
hut as tiny were drawn from the text
and essence of the Holy Scriptures
they were regarded by him as an indication of the godly life the Methodist people ought to live. He did not
attempt to enumerate all the sins to
be avoided, nor all the duties to be
performed, but to give a summary
which under the appellation of "General Rules" shauld be of great value
to every honest seeker of salvation.
Prominent in the design of Mr.
Wesley was the guarding of inexperienced converts against the evil influence of worldliness and dissipating amusements, which are quite as
dangerous in our day as in his.
"The observance of these Rules,
their Prohibitions and Injunctions, he
deemed to be essential both as evidence of spiritual life and for the administration of Discipline."
Moved in Amendment by Rev. J.
Tallman  Pitcher,
Seconded by M E. Armstrong,
That the following be substituted
for the Report of the Commission.
That the Rules of Society remain
as in the Discipline at present except that the Xote in Sec. 35 be struck
Moved in Amendment by Rev. J
C. Speer, D.D.,
Seconded by Rev. W. II. Hincks,
D.D, that the following be substituted for the report of the Committee:
It is not assumed that the General
Rules "f the Methodist Church set
forth a complete Code of Legal Enactments by which our pepole art
to in hdd in bondage, hut they ARE
lo be understood as pointing to the
only perfect guide of faith and prac*
lice, namely: "The Word of God
which bVeth and abideth forever infallible Christ the Son of the Living
God, who is the perfect example for
all. and to the Holy Spirit who shall
guide us into all truth.
I. Hilliard, gave notice that if the
Amendment to the Amendment
should be lost, he would move, seconded by Rev.  II. W. Crews. B.A.,
Paragraph 35 of the Discipline read
as   follows:
"Note.—The General Rules are to
be understood as forbidding neglect
of duties of any kind, imprudent conduct, indulging in sinful tempers and
words, Iht buying, selling or using
of intoxicating liquors as a beverage,
or taking such amusements as are
obviously of a misleading or questionable moral tendency, and all acts
of sdiobedience to iht order and Discipline  of  the   Church."
Rev. W. W. Andrews, LL.D., gave
notice that he would move as a substitute,
Seconded by Rev. J. II. While,
"Forasmuch as these rules are to be
interpreted by the enlightened Christian conscience according to the principles of Christian liberty revealed
in God's Word, our members are
earnestly admonished that they guard
with great care their reputations as
servants of Christ and in the case
of those amusements and practices
which are of a hurtful or questionable tendency that they engage in
none, injurious to their spiritual life
or incompatible with their allegiance
to Jesus Christ the Master.
Rev. W. I. Shaw, D.D., gave notice
of an Amendment to the substitute,
That in harmony with the traditional attitude of the Methodist
Church through its entire history of
nearly 2(H) years And its opposition to
amusements adverse to Christian life,
wc hereby declare that our Church
is still opposed to such amusements
and diversions as are contrary lo the
spiritual and moral interests of the
Church such as dancing, attendance
al theatres, gambling bribery and tippling.
Mr. Will Gibben gave Xotice of
Motion, seconded by Rev. Wm. Som-
That he would move that instead
of the words "substituted therefore,"
the words "added thereto" he inserted in  the  Report.
Rev. II. E. Thomas gave Xotice of
Seconded by Mr. E. Sweel,
That lit would move thai all words
afler "forbidding" in line 2 of Par-
35, he struck out and insert the words:
"All practices which are clearly
shown to be inconsistent with the
principles of tin-  Kingdom of God."
Rev, R. X. Burns, I>.!)., gave No-
tice of Motion,
Seconded by Rev, II. Sprague, D.D.,
That the following Ik- substituted
for lite Item of the Report:
"These Rules were framed wish no
idea that llieir outward observance
would satisfy the claims of the Christian religion. While part of their design was and is the guarding of inexperienced converts against the evil
influences of worldliness and dissipating amusements, their chief aim is
personal holiness and spiritual power.
They do not enumerate all the sins
to be avoided or duties to be performed, but give a summary which
under the. application, of "General
Rules" should be of great value to
every honest seeker of salvation, the
complete guidance, however, for all
Christian life is to be found only in
the Spirit of Christ as revealed in
the Word of God."
The Order of the day, farewell to
Rev. H. Haigh was on motion, suspended to allow the vote to be taken.
Rev. J. C. Speer, D.D., withdrew
his Amendment and the Xotice of
Motion of I. Hilliard became the
Amendment to the Amendment.
Moved and seconded that the vote
be now taken.—Carried.
The vote was taken on Iht substitute moved by Prof. W. W. Andrews,
LL.D., which was carried.
The Report as a whole as amended
was   adopted.
Rev. H. Haigh, Fraternal Delegate
from the .Wesleyan Conference, spoke
words of farewell and took leave of
the Conference.
Rev. Daniel Spencer, LL.D., Superintendent of the Local Option League
in British Columbia, was introduced
and  addressed  thi'  Conference.
Rev T. L. E. Short, HI)., General Secretary of Foreign Missions,
introduced    the    Missionaries    from
West China, who were present at
General Conference.
Rev, 0 L. Kilborn, Ml)., and Rev,
James Fndicott, D.D., spoke on behalf
of the  Missionaries.
Rev. H. II. Coates, It.I)., who is
about to return to Japan, spoke words
of farewell.
On motion, it was ordered that the
Report for the Quadrennium of Albert College be printed, with other
College Reports in the Journal of the
Announcements were made, and
Conference adjourned at 5.30 p.m.
with Benediction by Rev. R. J. Elliott, of Hamilton Conference.
Thursday Evening, Aug. 25, 1910
Conference resumed at 8 p.m.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D., General Superintendent,  in  the  Chair.
Devotional exercises were conducted by Rev. W. W. Abbott, B.D., of
Saskatchewan  Conference.
Minutes of the Seventeenth Session
were read and confirmed.
On motion of Rev." W. R. Young,
D.D., the Order of Business was suspended to allow a ballot to be taken
for election of members to the Board
of Missions.
On motion of Rev. W. Emsley the
bar of Conference for this evening
was fixed. The width of the Church
as far back as the rear pillar.
Mr. R. W. Clark presented Report
Xo. II of the Committee on Missions,
giving the following nominations for
the  Board of Missions:
Ministers—S. J. Shorey, D.D., W.
H. Heartz, D.D., W. R. Young, D.D.,
W. Briggs, D.D., E. B. Ryckman, D.
D„ J. W. Sparling, D.D., R. P.
Bowles, B.D., R. J. Elliott, J. H. Rid-
dell, D.D., A.'Langford, D,D„ S. F.
Hucstis, D.D., G. W. Henderson.
Laymen—N. W. Rowell, K.C.,- Hon.
W. H. Cushing, J. W. Flavelle, W. H.
Lambly, G. F. Johnston, J. J. Maclaren, C. B. Keenleyside, C. W. Cate,
J. A. M. Aikins, G. W. Brown, J. IL
Chapman, W. J. Waugh.
On motion the report was adopted.
A ballot was taken and the scrutineers retired.
Conference proceeded to take up
the Order of the Day the consideration of the Report of the Committee
on Church Union.
A statement was made by Chancellor Burwash, Chairman of the Committee.
Rev. J. W. Cooley presented the
Report of the Committee.
Item 1, moved to adopt by Chancellor Burwash, seconded by J. A. M.
Aikins,  K.C.
The scrutineers reported the result
of the ballot for election of members
of The Board of Missions.
The following were declared elected:—
Ministers—W. R. Heartz, D.D., S.
J. Shorey, D.D., J. W. Sparling, D.D.,
Wm. Briggs, D.D., W. R. Young,
J).])., F. B. Ryckman, D.D.
Laymen—X. W. Rowell, K C, Hon.
W. II. Gushing, J. W. Flavelle, Hoi.
Justice  Maclaren.
It was moved that Conference adjourn.   The motion was lost.
()n motion it was ordered that a
ballot he taken for the two remaining
lay members of the Board of Missions.
Moved that all names of those nominated, hut not elected, be put on the
ballot and selection he made from
them  in  voting.
Moved in amendment, that Secretary of Conference read the names
slowly and that members select from
names  read.
Amendment was lost. Motion carried.
A ballot was taken and the scrutineers retired.
The consideration of the Report on
Church Union was resumed.
On motion of Rev. J. C. Antliff,
D.D., the debate was adjourned.
On motion, Conference adjourned
at 10.30 p.m. with Benediction by
Rev. Alfred Brown.
In Ihe election of General Conference Officers, at least, the great legislative body of the Church, has
shown a remarkable conservatism.
Without a single exception every connexional officer was elected on the
first ballot. This is surely a high
(Continued on  Page  Seven.)
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Opposite Spencers' Store - ... Victoria, B.C. GENERAL CONFERENCE DAILY BULLETIN
(By Dr.  Fagan)
(Continued from last  Issue)
Appeal to Public  Support
In conclusion, let nie bring hour
t Ii - facts that a duty is cast on the
community ;is a body, rich and poor
all e, lo lend not merely an apathetic
a- -lance to thil moveiium ; not that
lh     rich   man   should   wrile   out   hi;
cheque for his lubacription, nor thai
tl     poor man  should pay his dollar,
an>l   that  then   both   should   sit   bark
eo   placently and   say   "My   dul)  ii
Humanity first, mutual safety second, calls for united action between
lh, north and south poles of society.
Capitalist and working man master
ami servant, are equal in this great
nl of modern missioni among mankind; there is no distinction of class
or quality; disease and death bring
all men to a common level; ve can
BOl either by united or any other
effort, defeat death ultimately, but we
Ittve it in our power to combat disease, some kinds partially, some effectually. That the work we have commenced is necessary, cannot he de
uied; that it is effective is amply
an   ed.
The man, the woman, the father,
the mother, the brother, the sister,
who stands aloof, sa)s in effect: "Let
■anger surround me, let those sink
who cannot swim." The one without
family, without kindred, who adopts
a similar stand says: "What is So-
ciciy or what is my brother man tc
mi'" In short, they stand on the
hanks of a river into which human
beings have fallen, and when they
could save them by stretching forth
helping hand, they allow them to
perish miserably and hopelessly. To
do this actually, would he criminal;
to do it morally, is almost the same.
The person capable of doing it morally would almost do it actually; and
the same person, with positions re
versed, would be the first lo cry out
fur assistance. I cannot believe there
is stieh a one in Canada, and am satisfied it is only thoughtlessness or ignorance of Christ's command as given
through the Bible that hinders any
citizen from doing his part, be it great
or small.
(To be Continued)
(Continued from  Page 6).
compliment n> their broad Christian
character, executive ability and administrative skill.
hew changes only were made in the
personnel of these important officers
of the Church   Rev. Dr. Chown was
promoted   from  the  head  of  the   de
partment of Temperance and Moral
Reform,  which he has guided  SO efficiently for the past two quadrenniums.
in be the associate of Rev. Dr   Car
man in ihe General Superintendency,
The vacancy thus caused was filled
by the election of Rev, Dr. .Moore,
who   for   eight   years   has   given   his
splendid abilities to the advancement
and organization of the Lord's Day
Alliance of Canada, which has been
so effective in securing for so man;'
thousands of working people throughout Canada a day of rest in seven
and a belter observance of the Lord's
Rev. T. E. E. Shore, B.D., was elected to the position of General Secretary of foreign Missions to take thu
place of the late Rev. Dr. Suther
land, and Rev. Dr. Graham to succeed the late Rev. Dr. Potts, as Gen
eral Secretary of Education. These
bright young men bring to their respective offices and Optimistic, re-
SOUrcefulneSS, gleaned from rich opportunities and wide experiences and
an enthusiasm at once helpful and
With the above and in the rc-clec*
tion of Rev. Dr. Briggs as Hook Stew
ard, Rev. Dr. Creighton as Editor ol
the Guardian, Rev. Dr. Johnson as
Editor of the Wesleyan, Rev. Dr.
Crews as Editor of the Sunday School
publications; Rev. S. T. Bartlctt as
General Secretary of Epworth
Leagues and Sunday Schools, and
Rev. Dr. Stephenson as General Secretary of the Department of Forward
Movement in Missions, our Church is
magnificently manned, with an officiary equal in ability and attainment
to those of any similar group of officers to be found in any church in
Christendom. May they all be accorded the sincerest confidence and the
practical support of. the church if
large. If these are accorded the coming quadrennium will be characterized with abundant success in all departments.
Friday, August 26th, lyio.
Conference   resumed   at  9  a.   m.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D., General Superintendent in the Chair.
Devotional exercises were conducted by Rev. 11. Harper, U..V, of Toronto   Conference.
Minutes of eighteenth session were
read and confirmed.
Conference resumed discussion of
motion to adopt Item 1 of Report of
Committee on Church Union.
Scrtineers reported result of second
ballot for election of laymen to General  Board of Missions.    No eleition.
Question was raised as to following the procedure of last evening, in
taking further ballot,
On motion of Secretary of Conference.
It was resolved that any ballot
having only two names on it is a valid
A ballot was taken and the scrutineers retired.
Conference resumed discussion on
Item 1 of Report of Committee on
Church Union.
The scrutineers reported the result
of the third ballot for election of laymen to the General Board of Missions.
Mr. W. If. Lambly and Mrs. C. B.
Keenleyside were  declared elected.
Conference resumed discusson on
report of committee on Church Unon.
Moved in amendment by Rev. A. M.
Seconded by W. J. Robertson,
That Section If. paragraph 3 of the
report, be amended by substituting
the words "cordially receive" for the
words "declare its approval of," so
that the paragraph will read:
"Your Committee, therefore, recommend that the General Conference
cordially receive these documents
agreed upon by the Joint Committee
as a basis upon which the Methodist,
Presbyterian and Congregatonal
Churches may unite."
Announcements were made.
Mined by the Secretary of Conference and seconded.
That the order of the day for this
afternoon after the reading of the
minutes, be to hear the farewell words
of Bishop Honda. D.D., and of Rev.
If. M. Du Bose, D.D.    Carried.
Conference adjourned at 12:30 with
the Benediction by Rev. Wm. Sperling, D.D., of Montreal Conference.
Dr. Griffin has his car tuned to one
note and whenever the chord strikes
and that note resounds, be is on his
feet like a flash. The child of his
heart s the superannuation fund. If
you were to stand in the doorway or
on a street corner and call the name
of this child, you would hear the genial doctor cry, "Here I am, hands
off." The fund is safe under such
splendid protection.
As we listened to the Secretary,
who read the report of the Committee on Missions, we felt like proposing that he borrow some of the sten-
torian tones of Bro. Emsley,
The Committee on Education,
which has been tryng to relegate
Latin to the shades of night, will
surely revise their decision when they
read clause 8 of the Mission Report,
where a clerical error occurred and
it read, "Shall be accepted pro tan to
in lieu." The "tan" and the "to"
were taken as good English words by
the Secretary and might have referred
so far as he was concerned to the
color of a pair of shoes or the tawny
hide of the leopard or the shingle
applied to a boy's anatomy. Ve noble
Roman orators, debating n the forums of antiquity, resent not this disregard  of your mighty tongue.
The chair—disturbed by the perplexing details of legislation thrust
upon it, quieted the stir, as follows:
"We cannot provide legislation for
the angels in heaven or for the people
in  the  other direction."
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BRITISH COLUMBIA fisheries, one hundred and fourteen million dollars.
BRITISH COLUMBIA forests produce over twelve million dollars annually.
BRITISH COLUMBIA has millions of acres of paper-making material undeveloped.
BRITISH   COLUMBIA   farms   and   orchards   produce   over   eight   million   dollars
BRITISH COLUMBIA has immense deposits of iron ore awaiting development.
BRITISH COLUMBIA'S coal deposits are the most extensive in the world.
The Kootenay coalfields alone are capable of yielding ten million tons of coal
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BRITISH COLUMBIA has over ten million acres of wheat lands.
BRITISH COLUMBIA produces over two million pounds of butter annually, and
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BRITISH COLUMBIA shipped over six thousand tons of fruit in 1908, and imported
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BRITISH COLUMBIA fruits—apples, pears, plums, cherries, and peaches—are the
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Inexhaustible quantities of salmon, halibut, cod, herring, and other fish.
Many thousands of acres of land producing all the hardier fruits, as well as
peaches, grapes, apricots, melons, nuts, etc.
Splendid pasture and high prices for butter, milk, and cream.
Fair wages and a reasonable working day.
A cash home market for poultry and eggs at big prices.
Large profits from mixed farming and vegetable-growing.
Three hundred thousand square miles of unprospected mineral-bearing country.
An infinite variety of game animals, big and small, game fishes and game birds.
Magnificent scenery.
Good hotels.
Well-equipped trains.
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A healthful climate.
Inspiring surroundings.
Golden opportunities in all walks of life.
Just laws, well administered.
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