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General Conference 2>ail£ JBullettn
Devoted Specially to the Proceedings of the General Conference Session of the Methodist Church)
Vol. I. No. 13
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At the opening of the morning session
today Rev. Dr. Cleaver was given the
floor in order to introduce a resolution
regarding Biblical teaching in our Theological Colleges, the resolution he endeavoured to bring in on Saturday evening,
a shown in our reports elsewhere. It
was as follows:
Cleaver's Resolution
"Whereas it is regrettable that during the past quadrennium in the College teaching of our Church, orally and
in publications, there have been set
forth doctrines of an unsettling and injurious character such as:
i. The only chapters of Genesis arc
not history and they are not Science;
they contain no-account of the real beginnings either of the earth itself - r of
man and human civilization upon it.
2. Christ assumed the Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch and the Davidic
authorship of the iioth Psalm. Modern
scholarship denies both.
3. A man may not do violence to his
intellectual conscience at the bidding
of any authority, however august, and
such an appeal can accomplish nothing
unless it be to discredit the authority
4. On a question of moral duty Jesus
is to be listened to: on this matter
(concerning the casting out of devils)
He is simply to be ignored.
Therefore this Conference expresses <
its strong disapproval of this, and all
such teaching as has a tendency to disparage the Deity and Infallibility of
Christ, while here upon earth, to
weaken the authority of Christ and 1 lis
Apostles, or to discredit the Scriptures
as a trustworthy revelation from God."
Dr. Cleaver
The more I think about the matter the
more 1 feel this Conference should deal
\\ ith it, Dr. Cleaver said. He then read his
arraignment of Modern Scholarship respecting many of its teachings in relation
t" the Bible. The Report on the Educational Committee has provided necessary
I' gislation and all I now desire is an ex-
pression of opinion from this Conference
r» -^pecting these matters now taught in
our Colleges. However the professors in
our Colleges claim that the Discipline
d is not touch the matters to which we
1 •■ fer and therefore the legislation we
have is ineffective. The Chancellor of our
leading University claims that I am out
oi order because I am introducing new
doctrines into the discipline. Surely this
Conference that institutes Colleges and
supports them should have a voice to say
ether the teachings in these Colleges
i in harmony with the doctrines of our
1 luirch and whether such should be con-
'  Mied or not.
The report  of the  Committee shows
al throughout our Church there is a
most unsettled condition. We do not insinuate or reflect against the personal
character of any of our teachers. We are
n< 'I dealing with any individual hut with
the teachings they have introduced and
Hie books they have printed. Far graver
1 nes are at stake than any personal considerations. The foundations of our faith
attacked. To charge any individual
is futile. I have the proof of this false
teaching only in the case of Victoria
College and I have heard the Chancellor
"i that University defend it.
'The quotations from the book written
by a professor in this College are: It says
1 Hiiesis is not history nor science." But
Genesis claims to be an account of the
!' -inning of things.   If then it is neither
history nor science as the writer says
nor gives any account of the beginning
of things then it is a fraud.
2. The writer says in the words of
modern scholarship that when Christ assumes the .Mosaic Authorship oi the Pentateuch he was limited by the scholarship
of His day and was wrong in his assumption. These modern scholars declare that
Christ was so limited in llis humanit)
so much so that his divinity was overwhelmed. They say Christ could not discriminate between myth and history. This
professor goes farther and says Jesus is
not an infallible guide. If Jesus Christ is
not to be believed at certain times when
is lie to be believed? Where are we to
feel ourselves on safe ground as to the
teaching of Jesus Christ? We are further
taught that the source of authority is in
every individual man. It puts every
man's conscience on the throne of authority, both moral and intellectual, even
above the authority of Jesus Christ and
the Xew Testament. Surely we do not
want our children this taught to our children. Surely this Clinch, building its
Colleges and paying its professors, has a
right to say whether we shall allow
teachings that the Church does not believe! The writer of the book (Studies
in the Old Testament) describes the historical character of the Old Testament.
They claim that Abraham and Isaac are
all of them mythical.' How do they know
these'men are mythical characters? What
is their argument? "We have no proof
that these men existed therefore they did
not exist." What do you think of that
argument?. There seems to be an eagerness on the part of this professor tn go
against the Bible record. If I have to
give up the Bible I'll give i' up. but in it
on arguments as flimsy as are produced
bv this man. In the discussion of these
matters in our Toronto Ministerial Association, this professor was not able to
convince his brethren of like neutral calibre,- then he takes his erroneous teachings
into our Colleges to disturb the thought
of our young men who are easily persuaded by men nf such strength of
mind and scholarship. If we want souls
saved in our churches we cannot expect
to have such when such teaching prevails.
Mr. Winter, Seconder of Dr. Cleaver's
This is the mosl important matter that
has ever came before this Conference. I
am not a man of scholarship, but I have
some common sense. I rejoice to say
that I believe in Jesus Christ as the Divine Son of God, but as the Higher Critics teach about Him He is no Saviour
at all. These Higher Critics base their
arguments on baseless assumptions. Their
teachings are shipwrecking the faith of
hundreds. This teaching is discrediting
and is preventing the progress of Missions. I accept the Bible. I'd rather accept the most improbable thing in the
Bible than the shifting views of these
Higher Critics. They are based upon
useless and baseless assumptions. They
are contrary to our Church teachings and
the Bible. They strip our Lord Jesus
Christ of His Divinity.
A closure was put upon the discussion
by a motion that Chancellor Burwash and
N. W. Rowell alone be allowed to speak-
on the other side.
Dr. A. I). Watson moved the following amendment:
"That whereas the matters contained
in the resolution now presented are in
their nature such as call for the most
careful and mature deliberation of those
best fitted to adjudicate in such matters and inasmuch as this General Conference, which is by constitution and
usage, a legislature rather than a court
of trial ami cannot give that patient
and calm deliberation to these matters
which the interests of great truth and
highest fellowship demand, having
provided legislation embodying a
method of procedure in cases of supposed departure from the teaching, of
.Methodism, which we believe wili nol
tend to stifle the candor of our Professors, yet will serve to keep inviolate
the integrity of our Methodist doctrine,
and at the same time hold from the
confidence of our people, therefore,
Resolved that having adequately ] r
vided for such cases as are referred to
in the resolution, this (ieneral Conference reaffirms its allegiance to Christ
as King and Savior and God and its
faithful adherence to the Word of Hod
which liveth and abideth forever."
Haifa dozen plans were proposed, but
it took some time before a plan of procedure could be determined on. The decision of the Conference was to allow
Chancellor Burwash and X. W. Rowell.
K.C, to speak and Dr. Cleaver be given
opportunity to reply.
Dr. Burwash
I am sorry that the responsibility in
this matter falls so largely on me. To
undertake so heavy a burden as you have
placed upon me is to take my life in my
hands. The subject is one of great importance. It affects our future as a
Church, our standing in the country, our
orthodoxy and our freedom, one of
the most fundamental facts of our
Church, viz., "liberty of conscience
and liberty of thought within the
limits of our standards.' To make
public opinion the standard of orthodox is
to cut oil' liberty; ii kindled the Smith-
held fires, it was the spirit of the Middle
Ages and it was this that the Reformation overthrow. Of course there are fundamental we must hold. There is not a
man in Victoria who does not believe
and teach the Deity of Jesus Christ and
the authority of the Holy Scriptures. So
far as I know every College we have desires to teach in harmony with our standards of doctrine. We are ready to stand
on the platform or in any court of trial to
tesl our teachings as to whether they are
in harmony with our standards or not.
So far as I know- there is no church in
the world that has a more rigid and thorough method of procedure to try the
matters in question than the court vou
instituted as a Church on Saturday nighl
last. This is no place for settlement. This
is nol a judicial court. We cannot establish new standards of doctrine. Whatever
we may do here can be only an expression
of opinion having a moral weight according to its majority and the abilitv of the
men Voting upon it. f am pleased with
Dr. Watson's motion, I would not move
it because it might be though! i was preventing discussion. I am. however.
anxious for a thorough discussion. Between the views i'\ Wv^Wv Critics there
are as many variations of belief as there
are m every phase oi scientific study.
Catholicism declares that Protestant'sm
is all wrong because it has divergent
views. We all know what a fallack this
is. Now in none of our Colleges is
Higher Criticism taught as a distinct
science, but there are many facts chat
Higher Criticism has brought to tight
which arc accepted. Much that Dr. ('leaver has said has been an avoidance of the
heart of the question. There arc !>u! two
points to consider:
(1) Does any teaching in our Colleges
interfere with our doctrine as set forth
in our standards of doctrine, as to the
Deity of Christ?
(2) Does any such teaching interfere
with our belief in the authority of Holy
I want to say that Mr. Jack-on affirms
both in the very book which has been
here referred to.
Dr. Burwash, proceeding, quoted from
Wesley's Notes a definition of the personality of Christ which declares: He is very
Cod of very God and yet very man of
wry man. lie pointed out the difficulty
1 f human reason comprehending this
mystery, how that consistently with His
Deity in His humanity He was subject
to limitations of knowledge. He (Dr.
Burwash) had always taken the position
he could not explain tin's, but the Scripture admitted it and Wesley taught it.
There are different theories. The German theory that llis Divinity was veiled,
and John Wesley's that He emptied Himself of the Divine fulness during His
earthly life and regained it at His
exaltation were similar. Mr. Jackson
expresst"1 Mr. Wesley's view and had not
gone beyond it. Dr. Cleaver had quoted
from Mr. Jackson's book certain paragraphs with insufficient regard for the
Dr, Burwash then showed how hard it
wa> to explain the geneologies in Matthew and Luke, and that Wesley found
it a difficulty. The writers, Matthew and
Luke, were viewing these tables simply
as historians, and that to accept the language of the time in matters of science
and of history was to have more weight
than to hold that they were under the
control of inspiration and that to have
troubled about science and history would
have been to turn thoughts of men awayr
from the great evangelical truths.
Jesus did not concern himself about these
questions such as the Authority of the
Pentateuch, to do so would have been to
have had the Scribes and Pharisees .Jjout
I lis ears.
N. W. Rowell
T am on the other side because I love
the Methodist Church ami because I want
to see her engaged in things that are essential. Theology is not my province,
but T have read both sides of this question. I have read the conservative view
as described in Dr. (Irr's book on the Old
Testament. I have read Dr. Drr.s latest
book on Inspiration, and here the speaker
quoted from the book to show his belief
in the limitations of Jesus a.s to knowledge and that He laid no claim to omniscience. The limitations of Jesus' consciousness were not assumed but real.
Jesus used popular language regarding
certain books of the Old Testament not
expressing "ex-cathedra" judgments on
the doctrines contained therein. I have
read Mr. Jackson's book three times and
it contains nothing more radical than
things I find in Wesley's notes on the
Xew Testament. I do not think Dr.
Cleaver's conclusions are fair or just and
I do not accept them. Concerning the
first chapters of Genesis the speaker read
extracts from Dr. Thomas to show that
it was neither history nor science because there was no man present to write
the history—as it was pre-historic. The
Bible is a book of religion and Genesis is
mythical—that is. it is a parabolic, pictorial narrative suited to the child mind
of the world at the time, but its references are to great fundamental facts.
Again he shows that Dr. Orr declares
that Inspiration does not refer to the history and science of the Bible. The Bible
is in no sense a book of science dealing
with any of our theories of modern
science. Dr. Orr says: "Job is a great
drama, the greatest drama of the age." I
.have yet been taught that Job was history but here Dr. Orr claims that Job is
a drama. Deuteronomy is considered a
General Conference Proceedings
Transcript of Minutes
Friday   Afternoon,
August 26th, 1910.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D., General Superintendent, in the Chair.
Devotional exercises were conducted by Rev. R. D. Hamilton, of the
Loudon Conference.
.Minutes of the Nineteenth Session
read and confirmed.
The order of the day was taken up
and Bishop Honda, D.D., of Japan,
and Rev. H. M. Du Bose, D.D., Fraternal Delegate from the Methodist
Epscopal Church, South, spoke
words of farewell.
Moved by Rev. H. Sprague, D.D.,
Seconded by Rev. Wm. Heartz,
"The General Conference having
learned of the death of the Rev.
Charles Stewart, D.D., which has occurred since its meeting began, hereby records its appreciation of his
long continued, varied and valuable
service to our Church and to the
Kingdom of our Lord.
Dr. Stewart entered the ministry
in the year i8g2. For fifty-one years
he continued in full, actve work, eighteen of which he spent in the pastorate and thirty-three as Professor of
Systematic Theology in the Allison
University. Seven years ago he became supernumerary, and at the same
time resigned his chair and his place
as Dean of the Faculty; but, in a less
arduous positon, he continued in professional work to the end of his life.
He was a member of every Central
Conference but one, until advancing
years prevented attendance.
At the General Conference of 1886
he was elected Fraternal Delegate to
the Wesleyan and other Conferences
of British Methodism. He was a
member of the Ecumenical Methodist
Conference held in London in 1901.
His long and zealous service in the
interest of the Brtish and Foreign
Bible Society was signally acknowledged a year ago by appointment to
a place on the Society's Board of Directors and the gift of a costly copy
of the Holy Scriptures. All who
knew Dr. Stewart had confidence in
his purity of purpose, his conscientiousness in action and lis loyalty to
Methodst teachings and interests.
These qualities, united with an unusual force of conviction and character, enabled him to make a deep and
abiding impression on the ministry
and the churches of the Maritime
Provinces, where his lfe's work was
done, and where his name will be
tenderly recalled and revered through
many coming years.
On motion it was ordered that a
copy of the resolution be sent to the
family of the late Dr. Stewart.
H. P. Moore, Esq. presented Report No. 10, of the Business Committee.
Your Committee begs to report as
t. We recommend that such sections of the report of the Committee
on Sunday School and Epworth
League respecting election to the
Board and of the report of Committee on Discipline No. 2, referring to
electons of members of the General
Conference Special Committee, have
precedence over previous orders so as
to permit to the elections taking place
as per agenda.
2. That the following brethren be
excused to-day from' further attendance upon Conference, satisfactory
reasons having been given:
J. A. M. Aikens, K.C, George
Thompson, F. Curran, R. McLeod,
Dr. Calder, L. J. Clarke, J. C. Hay,
Rev. W. M. Patten, M.A., B.D., R. C.
Vaughan, C. A. Stanley, W. Heaman,
C. H. C. Fortner, Rev. J. H. Oliver,
S. W. Vogan, T. Wickett, J. W. Knox,
D. T. Stafford, G. T. Lewis, G. A.
Bateman, Prof. J. B. Reynolds, R. W.
Ireland.    Adopted.
Rev. A. C. Crews, D.D. presented
Item 2 of the report of Committee on
Sounday Schools. The Item was on
motion adopted.    Carried.
Mr. T. E. O'Flynn presented Item
71 of Committee on Discplne No. n.
The Item was on motion adopted.
Moved by Rev. J. S. Williamson,
Seconded by Mr. H. L. Lovering,
That the vote on Item r of the report of the Committee on Church Union be now taken.   Carried.
Moved by Rev. Wm. Briggs, D.D,
Seconded by Mr.  D.  S.  Curtis, to
reconsider the resolution that vote
be now taken.   Carried.
Moved by Rev. S. C. Bland, D.D,
That the vote be taken after Rev.
A. M. Sanford and O. Darwin have
spoken.   Lost.
After sonic discussion it was moved
by Rev. J. A. Rankin, D.D,
Seconded by Mr. I. Taylor, that the
vote be HOW taken.    Carried.
The amendment was put and lost.
Item 1 was carried—220 voting for
and 35  against  the  adoption  of the
On motion Conference proceeded to
election of Fraternal Delegate to
Methodist Episcopal Church, South.
The following were nominted:
Rev. S. P. Rose, D.D, Rev. S. J.
Shorey, D.D, Rev. J. Livingston, Rev.
G. W. Kerby, B.A, Rev. W. H.
Hincks, D.D, Rev. J. W. Sipprell,
A ballot was taken and the ballots
left in the hands of the Secretary of
the Conference.
The Conference delegations were
orered to meet as per discipline to
elect ther representatives on
The General Conference Special
The Book and Publishing Committee, and nominate their representatives on the Sunday School and Epworth League Board and the Temperance, Prohibition and Moral Reform Board.
Announcements were made, and
Conference adjourned at 5 p. m, the
Benediction being pronounced by Rev.
J. Allen, M.A.
Friday Evening, August 26th, 1910
Conference resumed at 8 p.m.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D, General Superintendent in the Chair.
Devotional exercises were conducted by Rev. James H. White, D.D, Superintendent of Missions of British
Columbia Conference.
Minutes of twentieth session read
and confirmed.
Moved by Rev. T. Albert Moore,
1. That the rules, regulations, decisions and resolutions adopted at
this Conference take effect forthwith,
after the passing thereof, unless some
other time has been expressly or impliedly fixed or'provided.
2. That the former laws and rules
of the Church shall be therefore repealed  or  amended.
(1) In all cases where any action
has been taken or provision adopted
having or impliedly that affect:
(2) In all cases where such former
laws or rules are contrary to or inconsistent with the action of this
Conference. When there is conflict or
inconsistency tebween two or more
enactments the latest shall be the
binding one.
3. That the Editing Committee of
the Dsicipline shall have power—
(1) To correct any merely verbal
or clerical errors;
(2) To change the arrangement
where necessary, provided that the
meaning be not changed.
(3) To make uniform the use of
the names of Officials, Departments,
Institutions and  the like.
The Secretary of Conference reported that the members of the General Board of Missions had been
elected in ihe following order—
Ministers—W. H. Heartz, D.D, S.
J. Shorey, D.D, J. W. Sparling, D.D,
Wm. Briggs, D.D, Wm. R. Young,
D.D,   E.   B.   Ryckman,   D.D.
Laymen—N. W. Rowell, K.C, Hon.
W. H. Cushing, J. W. Flavelle, LL.D,
Hon. Justice Maclaren, LL.D, W. H.
Lambly, C. B. Keenleyside.
The scrutineers reported the result
of the first ballot for election of fraternal delegates to the Methodist
Episcopal Church South—no election.
A second ballot was taken and scrutineers retired.
Moved by N. W. Rowell, K.C.
Seconded by Rev. James Allen, M.
That in the event of the Weslevan
Conference in England desiring to
transfer authority over the Soldiers'
and Sailors' Home at Esquimalt, But
ish Columbia, to the Methodist
Church in Canada, the General Board
of Missions be and it is hereby authorized and empowered to deal with
the whole matter, and particularly to
take all such action in the case as the
Board may deem expedient in order
that this transfer may be effected.
Conference Special Committee
Toronto—Rev. W. H. Hincks, D.D,
Rev. J A. Kankin, D.D, N. W. Rowell, K.C, Hon. i:. J. Davis, Hon.
Thomas Crawford.
London—Rev. R. W. Millyard,
Rev. J. E. Ford, C. E. Naylor.
liavof Quinte— Kev. W. H. Kinsley,
W. H. Hooper, 1". !•:. O'Flynn, K.C.
Montreal—Rev. C. S. Decprose,
Rev. Win.  Philp, C W. Cate, K.C.
New Brunswick and I'rince Edward
Island. Nova Scotia—Rev. Howard
Nova Scotia, Newfoundland—Rev.
Howard Sprague, D.D, Sackville, X.
B.; Rev. G. W. Bond, B.A, River
John, .VS.; Hon. 11. J. B. Wood, St.
Johns, Xew found land.
Manitoba,    Alberta,    Saskatchewan,
liritish Columbia—Rev. J. W. Sparling, D. D,Rcv. R. Newton Powell,
B.C., L. Michener, Alberta; J. F.
Middlemiss, Sask.
Report of election by the several
delegation! were called for and given
as  follows—
Book and Publishing
Toronto—Rev. J. C. Speer, D.D,.
Rev. T. E. hartley, F. W. Winter, J.
R. L. Starr.
Hamilton—Rev. W. J. Smith, ii.A,
Rev. J. W. Cooley, Joseph Gibson, H.
P. Moore.
London—Rev. W. J. Ford, LL.B,
Rev. W. G. H. McAlister, B.A, W. S.
Dingman, Charles Austin.
Bay of Quinte—Rev. B. Greatrix,
Rev. Geo. J. Bishop, D.D, R. W.
Clarke, M. A. James.
Montreal—Rev. F. G. Lett, Rev.
Wm. Timberlake, J. W. Knox, G. F.
Nova Scotia—Rev. S. F. Huestis,
D.D, Rev. R. McArthur, Hibbert
Woodbury, D.D.S, A. M. Bell, G. O.
New Brunswick and Prince Edward
Island—Rev. George Steel, Rev. Thos.
Marshall, Rev. H. E. Thomas, S. W.
Hunton, M.A, Henry Smith.
Newfoundland—Rev. George Paine,
John Lesmon.
Manitoba—Rev. A. Stewart, D.D,
Rev. J. McLean, Ph.D., Rev. T. 1..
Wilson, E. L. Taylor, J. A. M. Aikins, K.C, J. K. Sparling.
Alberta—Rev. J. M. Harrison, Rev.
T. C. Buchanan, F. E. Butchart.
Saskatchewan—Rev. W. W. Abbott,
B.A..B.D., Rev. W. S. Reid, B.A,
J. A. Cross, J. H. Holmes, J. W. Hig-
British Columbia—Rev. A. E. Roberts, B.A, Arthur Lee.
Nomination  for  Sunday  School   and
Epworth League
Toronto—A.   W.   Briggs.
London—Rev.  R.  D.  Hamilton.
Hamilton—Rev. W. H. Harvey, B.A.
Bay of Quinte—Rev. D. S. Houck.
Montreal—Rev. George S. Clenden-
New Brunswick and Prince Edward
Island—Rev. J. B. Gaugh.
Nova Scotia—Rev. W. I. Croft.
Newfoundland—Rev. T. i>. Darby,
Manitoba—Rev. W. A. Cooke, D.D.
Alberta—Rev. T. P. Perry.
Saskatchewan—Rev. High Dohson,
British Columbia—E. W. Keenleyside.
Temperance  and  Moral  Reform
Toronto—Rev. J. H. Hazlewood,
D.D, A. D. Watson, M.D.
Hamilton—Rev. A. L. Gee, Ph.D.,
Samuel  Carter, Esq,
London—Rev. R. J. Garbutt, D. C.
Taylor,  Esq.
Bay of Quinte—Rev. John Garbutt,
J. J.  Mason, Esq.
. Montreal—Rev. W. H. Sparling,
D.D, Abraham Shaw; Quebec Group
—Rev. William Sparling, D.D, Rev.
D. T. Cummings, T. A. Barrington,
J. H. Carson.
New Brunswick and Prince Edward
Island—Rev. H. E. Thomas, W. S.
Whitman, M. E. Armstrong, M.D,
Rev. S.  Howard.
Newfoundland—Rev. W. H. Dot-
chon, A.  Penney, J.P.
Manitoba—Rev. J. C. Walker, Rev.
A. E. Smith, W. F. Osborne, Winnipeg, Andrew Graham.
Alberta—Rev. Geo. W. Kerby, B.
A, Rev. G. G. Webber, W. W. Chown,
Edmonton, G. W. Smith.
Saskatchewan- Rev. Joseph N. Oliver, Rev. Thomas Lawson, E. B. Ted-
ford, Mortlach, C. B. Keenleyside,
British Columbia—Rev. S. S. Oster-
hout, Ph. D, Rev. Robert Hughes, J.
P. Rice, Kamloops, George R. Gordon.
On motion of the Secretary of Conference it was ordered that the delegations that have not made their
nomination to the Board of Temperance, Prohibition and Moral Reform,
should meet for that purpose at the
close of this evening's session, and
report before the morning session so
the full report can be presented in
the reading of the Minutes.—Carried.
Bank of Montreal Chambers,
To the
Delegates and Friends,
Methodist Conference, 1910.
THE MONEY MAKER and all who appreciate
a Real Sound Investment.
We have a constant demand for First Mortgage
Loans with the best security in sums ranging
from $1,000 upwards at 7 per cent, net covering
a period of from one to five years with interest
payable quarterly.   To those who are desirous of
making their income sure this class of investment
should appeal.   Monies entrusted to our care will
receive our most careful attention.
Financial independence is the goal towards
which the majority strive, but the lure of
speculative get-rich-quick attractions diverts the
judgment of many who too often lose their all and
become discouraged and distrustful.   There ARE
PROFITABLE money making opportunities
without necessity for taking chances with one's
hard earned and possibly harder saved funds.
Let the Armours, the Pattens, the Ryans and
the other past masters in the art of speculations
"play the Wall Street game."   They possess vast
fortunes and when they sustain a loss it does not
mean poverty and discouragement to them,
however much it might and does to many whose
means are limited
We judge others by ourselves.   We want to
make money quickly and honestly but we will not
gamble with our money and we certainly do not
advise others to do that which we are not willing
to do ourselves, and under no circumstances
would we engage in a business by which we would
profit through the loss of others.   Our associates
are of the same mind.
We are in the Investment and Brokerage
business, we are making money for ourselves and
have made money for all our clients, we can
MAKE MONEY FOR YOU, then why not give us
an opportunity, a trial.   We ask you are we not
worthy of an investigation—are we not
Come and see us, make a few enquiries and
allow us to demonstrate the ability which we cteim.
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Devoted specially to the Proceedings
of  the  General   Conference  of
The   Methodist    Church,
August,   1910.
N. W. Rowell's Address
Sunday Evening Service
The evening lervice al  Metropolitan Church wet t" be taken by Rev.
J.  C.  Speer,  D.D., a  former paitor,
but in deference to .Mr. N. W, Rowell,
K.C,  the  Caiiacli.-ui  delegate  to  the
World's Missionary Congress, Edinburgh, held in June, [910, Dr. Speer
requested  that  Mr.  Rowell wive ins
report  to the  convention,  which   Mr.
Rowell consented to do.    The building  was  densely  crowded.    The service was opened hy the  pastor,  Rev.
T. E. Holling, with hymn 706.    Rev.
\V. II. Sparling, D.D., led in prayer.
The lesson    was read    by Rev.  Dr.
Chown, Junior General  Superintendent.    The second hymn, 716, was announced  hy  Dr.  Carman,   the  Senior
General     Superintendent,     and    Mr.
Rowell was introduced and  spoke as
My embarrassment in speaking on
the World's Missionary Congress is
•to know what to say and what to
leave unsaid. I think, however, I
shall first speak to you on the
Preparation  for  the  Conference.
They  began two    years    before  the
Conference   was   held.     A   group   of
Missionary experts in Europe, United
States,  Canada,    and the    Far  East,
studied   the   conditions   now   forcing
the  liurch  in  world-wide  evangelism.
There were eight groups of committees   formed.     The   first,   headed   by
Jno.  R. Mott, studied the field unoccupied and the ened.
The second group studied "'The
Church in the Mission field."
The third studed education in relation to missionary life. The training
of a native ministry and the place and
power of education in such work.
The fourth, "The Missionary message in relation to non-Chrstian religions." They studied non-Christian
religions. They gave a brilliant review of these and their essential
truths. They showed that Christianty
alone could be the universal religion.
They discussed modern phases of
thought on the missionary problem.
The new theology, science, higher
Fifth group—"The Training of the
Sixth group.—"The Home Base."
They studied the conditions in the
church in relation to world cvengel-
ization. The sources at home of men
and money.
The seventh group studied "The
Relation of Missions and Governments."
The eighth group studied "Question
of Co-opcraton of Churches in Non-
Christian Lands." They strongly advised and organic unity as necessary
in order to more effective work on
the mission field.
In further preparation there were
held in England, Scotland and Ireland
preliminary meetings that issued a
call to prayer to all our misson fields
in the world for blessing upon this
great congress.
The  Congress.
There   were   1.250  accredited   delegates representing all the Protestant
denominations of the world     It was
the  greatest   missionary   congress   in
the world's history.    There were the
leading men from Europe and the foreign mission fields all over the world.
Besides there were over 200 mission-
ares, from the 'jjbreign field and also
800 of the wives and  special friends
of  the    delegates.    They    were     so
crowded for room that they found it
hard  to   find  a  seat  for  the   Mayor
of  Edinburgh,  who  was  entertaining
the  Conference.
There   were    additional     meetings
held  in  other churches and at  some
of these  3.000 were  gathered.     Lord
Balfour   of   Burlcight   was   Chairman
of the Conference, but John R. Mott
presided  at   the  morning and  afternoon   sessons,   and   Lord   Balfour   in
the  evening.    The  city of  Edinburg
gave a hearty welcome to the Conference.    The University held a special convocation at which several distinguished   delegates   were   honoured
with degrees, among whom was Mr.
John R. Mott and Mr. Robt. E. Speer.
The Opening Meeting.
Lord Burleigh sad:   "I have a message from the King.   The King com
mands me to convey to you his deep
appreciation, it is a congress for a
reign of peace and the welfare of the
world. May the Congres be guided
by   Divine   Wisdom."
.\t (»nce, as the message closed, the
National  anthem  was  sung.
The primate of  England was the
first speaker,    lie struck the keynote
of the  Congress  III   his  first  sentence.
Brothers   and   Sinters,   in   the   Lord
Jesus Chrst."
Bach speaker was presented In 30
Each speaker wu given1 seven minim-.     .Vol   a  m.in   bad   his   time   extended.     Even   W.   J.   Bryan   in   the
middle of a splendid peraration, was
compelled    to    stop,    ihe  Business
Committee met each day to settlte the
work   for  the  next   day.    They  pub-
lished    an    agenda     for    each    day.
Speakers were allowed to criticse the
report so that they might choose for
the final reports both the original investigations and the criticisms.
In order to speak, the speaker must
send in his card, and on il the phase
of the  question   he   wished   to  speak
on.     The   Chairman,  John   R.   Mott,
had control of who should speak and
in  what  order.    At  the close of one
day he had 50 cards of men who had
not had a chance to speak.    In the
cussed.    Among    the    laymen    who
spoke were Robt. E. Speer, Seth Low,
Balfour    of    Burleigh,    Sir    Andrew
Eraser and Sherwood Eddy.    Among
the   ministers   were   Dr.   Denny  and
Dr.   Ilorton.     Dr>- Denny   spoke  on
the   demand     of    missions    on   the
church.     Not   an  optimistic  address,
but most  incisive.    He  showed  with
mpelling power the demand missions
made on the character and that only
by exalting Jesus Christ and obeying
His   commands  could  we   enter  into
our  heritage.
Dr.   Horton  spoke  on   "The  Sufficiency  of  God."    For  days  we  had
heard  of the  one  hundred  and  fifty
million unchristian heathen—the propaganda  by  heathen  religions  themselves, the force of Islamism today,
the  force  with   wheh   heathenism  in
Africa   is   often     beating     back   the
Christian forces.   But in the face of it
all   Dr.   Ilorton   dared   to   show   the
all sufficiency of God and that in His
strength  we  could  conquer.
Dr. Mott's address was an inspiration. With compelling power he
showed us our responsibility to go
forth and do our share in evangelization of the world.
The service of intercession at the
centre of the day we entered upon a
service of prayer. It was considered the most important part of the
Congress. It was in harmony with
the whole spirit, of the Congress.
During the two years previous
every day at noon the Committee had
stopped all its work to pray, and
many of the forenoon difficulties were
dissolved in prayer, and light broke
in on the shadows. The chairman
sad he knew they were led of God.
Result of Congress.
4. The spirit of unity and toleration present We had men of most
divergent views on polity and theology and yet all were unified 11 a
sense of the presence of the Lord
things on which we agree! We are
ime on all that is necessary for the
world's  salvation.
S.   The sense of responsibility resi
ing on  us as  Christians  to do our
-hare 111 u orld-evangelizalion. Wc
fell how little we had done and how
determined we  were to do our best
to arouse ihe I liiuvh lo her duty.
The  heart  of  the  I liurch   should  beat
quick and strong to accomplish  the
purposes of God lo save the world,
unless she has such missionary enthusiasm she is an organization which
misrepresents her Lord. What a glorious privilege il is to be a Christian!
to live todayl when ihe church may
enter into her giorioui heritage and
bring mankind to the feet of her Redeemer and  Lord.
(Continued from Page 1)
compilation  of traditional  reports.    I
shall nol trouble you further with extracts.     J   want   to  simply  say:   "Mr,
Jackson is more radical in some respects,   more   conservative   in   others
(ban these writers. I am not prepared
to say that Jackson, Orr and others
are correct.    I am not capable of expressing an opinion. When in Europe
I got hold of the debates in the Toronto  Conference as reporte 1 in the
Daily   Globe:   it   made  me  sick.     To
think   that   while   we   were   in   that
Congress  discussing  the  evangelization 0/ the world, at home tncy were
quarreling over matters of theological
controversy.      Brethren,    let    us    go
forth  as  men  to  preach  that  God  is
able  and   willing   lo   save  men   froil
their sins and let us cease this haggling about  non-essentials.
Dr. Cleaver in Reply
I do not need to say much. The
speakers who have spoken hav. not
touched the points I have dealt with.
Wc feel as sincere as Mr. Rowell but
no missionary work will be advi.nesd
so long as Christ is discredited and
the Authority of the Scriptures assailed.
Dr. Watson then spoke to his
amendment a.s above stated.
Motion Reconsidered
Later the Theological matter was,
on motion, opened for reconsideration. Mr. N. W. Rowell moved to
add the following words to Dr. Watson's amendment:
"That in this word God has spo-
ekn to us by His Son: we acknowledge Him as the infallible teacher
as well as revealer of the things of
The Conference accepted this by a
practically unanimous vote.
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In so far as organization was concerned, there was the formation of a
continuation committee of 35. John
R. .Mott, D.D., was chosen as chairman, and among many others, Mr.
Rowell was a member of the executive.
Impressions of Conference.
Dr. Horton: "I contrast this gathering with the first Christian gathering at Jerusalem next to consider
whether the Gentiles should come
Gentiles, having come in planning for
a world-wdc evangelism, in which
Jesus was  but a small part.
"When this assembly prays it is the
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Dr. McKay: "The feeling was too
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Dr. Cecil: "It was Ihe strangest
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Sir Andrew Frascr: "The most important of the Conference was that
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Moved  by  \.  W.  Rowell,  K.C,
Seconded by the Rev. rV. R. Voting,
That this Conference send a lay
fraternal delegate lo the Methodist
Episcopal Church South as well as a
Ministerial delegate on the understanding that there shall be no additional charge upon ihe (ieneral Conference fund for expenses by reason
of   -ending   a   lay   delegate -  Can ml.
\.   W.   Roucll.  K.C.  nominated  G.
I-'. Johnson, Esq.,   as lay    Fraternal
Delegate lo Methodist Episcopal
Church   South.
It was ordered that a ballot be cast
by the Secretary. The ballot vras east
and Mr. Johnson WU declared elected.
Consideration of the Report of the
Committee on Church Union was resumed—
Item 2 was  read—
II. (1) Also that we further recommend the General Conference to send
the documents of the basis of Union
agreed upon by the Joint Committee,
to the District Meetings, for consideration, and the Annual Conference of
1911, for consideration, and adoption
or rejection, the Conference to report
their decisions and votes thereon,
with any additional information deemed desirable by them to the General
Conference Special Committee, immediately after the close of the Conference of 1911.
(2) Also, further that the General
Conference authorize the General
Conference Special Committee, after
the reports of decisions and votes on
the proposed basis of union have
been received from the Annual Conferences, if the reports from the Annual Conferences warrant such action,
further to send the documents of the
Basis of Union to the Quarterly Official Boards and also to the membership of the Church for consideration
and adoption or rejection, during the
year 1911-12, the results of the de-
decisions and votes of Quarterly Official Boards and of the Membership
to be reported in 1912 and transmitted through the District Meetings
and Annual Conferences of 1912 to
the General Conference Special Committee, which shall further be authorised if the tabulated results of all
the voting of Annual Conferences
Quarterly Official Boards and the
membership of the Church, seem in
the judgment of the General Conference Special Committee to warrant
further action, in its discretion to call
3 special meeting of the General Conference, further to consider the matter of consummating the proposed
Moved to adopt. Moved in Amendment by Rev. L. Curtis, D.D., seconded by G. Paine,
That the General Conference Special Committee be directed to appoint
the time for the vote of the Quarterly Official Boards and Membership of
the Church upon the question of
Church   Union.
Moved in Amendment to the
That this Conference fix time for
taking the vote.
Amendment to the Amendment was
Amendment  carried.
Item 2, as amended was adopted
Item 3 was adopted,
Report as amended was on motion
adopted as a  whole.
The Report of the Committee on
Evangelism was called.
Moved that the Report of Committee on Education be received after
thai on Evangelism.
Motion was lost.
Rev. A. L. Gee, Ph.D., presented
the Report of the Committee on
Moved by Rev. J. A. Rankin, D D.,
and seconded that we adopt the Report.
Moved' in Amendment by A. D.
Watson, M.D., seconded by Rev. R.
H. Burns, D.D.,
That the matters contained in the
Report be placed under the management of the Department of Temperance, Prohibition and Moral Reform,
which shall appoint a centra! subcommittee as an executive to supervise and control the work under the
leadership of the General Superintendents.
Moved in Amendment to the
Amendment, by Rev. C. E. Bland,
B.D., seconded by Rev. Wm. Philp:
That a strong Central Committee
be appointed with corresponding
members in various Conferences.—
Moved by Rev. L. Curtis, D.D..
seconded by Rev. A. K. Birks, B A.,
That the Report with the Amendments be referred back to the Com
mittee with a view to the formation
of a Central Committee with corresponding members in the various Conferences.—Carried.
Rev. A. E. Roberts presented Report Xo. 12 of the Business Committee.
Item 1—That Reports be taken up
in the following order after the list
already  passed   was  exhausted.
Salaries—Discipline Xo.  1.
Discipline  Xo. 2.
Discipline No. 3.
Book and Publishing.
Item 2 was laid on  the Table.
On motion the Hours of Sessions
were  reconsidered.
On motion the hours were fixed
8,30 to 12.30 and 2 to 5.30.
Announcements were made.
Benediction by Rev. E. B. Ry.kman,
D.D., of Montreal.
Saturday, August 27th, 1910.
Conference resumed 8:30 a. m.
Rev. A. Carman, D.D., General Superintendent, in the Char.
Devotional exercises were conducted by H. P. Moore, Esq., of Hamilton Conference.
Minutes of the Twenty-first Session
were read and confirmed.
R. \V. Clarke presented Report No.
2 of Committee on Missions.
Item 1 was adopted.
Item 2 moved to adopt.
That paragraph 403, sub-section 2,
of the discipline re composition of the
General Board be amended by striking out the word "and" in the first line
of page 235 and adding after the word
"socety" the words "The Local Superintendents of Missions," the assistant or Field Secretary, the Superintendent of Indian Education and the
Deputy Treasurer."
The clause as amend to read "The
General Superintendent or Superintendents, the officers of the Society,
the Local Superintendent of Missions,
the Assistant or Field Secretary, the
Superintendents of Indian Education,
and the Deputy Treasurer."
On Motion the Item was laid over.
Item 3 was adopted.
Item 4 was lad over.
"4. Re motion of Hon. Justice
MacLaren re charging Discipline Par.
407, Sections 1, 2 and 5, by inserting in the clause the words "a ministerial Treasurer."
Your Committee recommends non-
Item 5 was adopted.
Item 6, paragraph 411, Sections I,
2. 3. 4. Si 6, 7, 8, 0 and 10 were
Re Foreign Missions (sub-section
XVH) Parapnigh 412, adopted.
Paragraph 413. Sections I, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 7, 8, 0, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15
On motion the vote on Paragraph
413, Section 13, was reconsidered.
Item 13. At the annual meeting
preceeding the General Conference,
each Mission Council shall elect delegates to the General Conference on
the same basis of representation as
obtains in the case of Annual Conferences, it being understood that such
delegates be appointed from among
the missionarcs who may be home on
furlough at the time.
Moved by Rev. S. G. Bland, D.D.,
Seconded by Rev. A. K. Birks, B.A.,
That Paragraph 413, Section 13, be
struck out.    Carried.
Paragraph 413, Sections 16 and 17
adopted, and 18 with note, adopted.
Paragraph 414, Sections 1, 2, 3 and
4, adopted.
Item 7 of the report adopted.
Item 8 adopted.
Item 2, which had been laid over,
was taken up.
Item 12, which had been laid over,
was taken up.
Item 13, which had been laid over,
was taken up.
Item 14, which had been laid over,
was taken up.
Item 15, a, b, c, d. e, f, g, h, adopted.
Item 16 was read.
Item 17 was read.
Rev. James Allen, M.A., moved adjournment of the debate.
The Captain of the "Homespn"
(Mission Shp) was introduced to Conference.
Announcements were made and
Conference adjourned at 12:30, with
the Benediction by Rev. W. J. Ford.
The debate on the Report of the
Committee on Missions was resumed
and considerable discussion arose on
several matters but in general (he report of the Committee was adopted
witb hut few minor amendments.
Then  came  on  a   Report for  which
many had waited long, viz., the Report of
The  Committee  on  Educa.'on
This report was read by Rev. S. G.
Bland, D D.. Secretary of the Committee, and explained by Justice Maclaren, the Chairman of the same.
The question of Theological .'id to
students was first dealt with and passed  without much debate.
Following this  the  next  item   that
was   discussed   Ml   th.it  referring  to
ihe   teaching  of   Theological   Professors which had caused already much
discussion in Ihe Committee on  lulu
cation.    The Committee brought in a
somewhat  conservative  report.
Doctrinal Teaching of Professors in
College—Dr. Cleaver Springs a
Quite a surprise was sprung on the
Conference by an amendment to the
Report introduced by Rev. Dr. Cleaver, explicitly condemning the teaching of professors in several of our
tions issuing during the qiiadrcniiium,
especially in the matter of discrediting the Deity of Christ. Authorty
of the Scriptures, Historical Character of Genesis, Jesus Christ's Infallibility as to the Scriptures, etc.
This emendation was considered
out of o'der by some.
Said the Chair—Surely you don't
want to put a doctrine about devils
in the Discipline Chancellor Bru-
wash claimed that such matters as
were found in the amendment were
irrlcvant to the discussion. Such if
allowed would assume that this Conference is B court of trial.
Dr. Manning — That amendment
makes some assumptions that this
Conference is not prepared to accept.
The Chair stated—"This amendment would be better at the close of
the Report. You may express yourselves as a Conference on the leaching of our Colleges at the close of the
The Report was then proceeded
Exception was again taken to the
method of procedure against erroneous teaching.
The Chairman of the Committee,
Justice McLaren, thought the report
had a weakness in this regard. Mr.
M. W. Rowell ,K.C, thought otherwise. Two other lawyers, Hilliard
and Harley, were up with an effort
to find a legal technicality in the Report. The legislation of the General
Conference is well protected by the
many lawyers that are present.
C. S. Deeprose—What is meant by
these words: "shall be called together
immediately." He did not need the
explanation for he soon declared its
meaning himself.
A. J. Irwin—Mr. Harley was under a misapprehension. Any five
members may bring a charge.
Hilliard, Burwash, Young and
Woodsidc are now on their feet, each
with an amendment. J. W. Wood-
side got the floor: "I am neither a
lawyer nor the son of a lawyer, nor
a minister; I do not think we need
any amendment."
Curtis, Ford and Cooley are now
to the front. Cooley would lay the
clause on the table but the table was
left empty as before. Then Dr. Williamson wanted to back up and start
over again on Clause 1, but there was
no going back by the Conference.
W. G. Hunt would change the report so as to make it possible to lay
a complaint either before the Board
of Regents or before the Board of
A. M. Sanford said no; Jet all complaints go to the College Board but
let a complaint go at once to the
Court of Appeal if the College Board
should not entertain a charge. Hunt's
amendment prevailed.
Discussion now became intense in
considering the right of appeal to the
Court of Appeal on the part of a man
who is not a member of the Church.
J. A. Carson introduced an amendment but it was ruled out.
The memorial from the Laymen's
Association of Toronto Conference
was called for. This memorial called for the elimination from our Colleges of all such teaching as is contained in Rev. George Jackson's
book, "Studies in the Old Testament."
Dr. Cleaver now wished to introduce a statement which would test the
Conference on certain teachings in
our Colleges but there was a strong
tendency to oppose the introduction
of such a statement.
Dr. Dyer rose to his feet and cried
out: "Mr. General Superintendent!"
The General Superintendent utrned
his eyes upon him and said: "What's
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Committee on Missions
(Continued from  Page Four of Saturday's   Issue.)
T. E. E. Shore.
'I he W. M. S. is under the direc
ton of the General Society, Mr. General  Superintendent    If this  is  to,
jjjd Hilliard, why are we building a
new hospital in Chentti, where this
au> -lion had a relation to the de-
pte, we were too dense to see.
Mr. Shore continued:    I have been
t> the foreign   held  and   I   witnessed
•fir  ireatcst harmony between the W.
M        and the General Hoard.    The
emral Hoard cannot do much of the
ork on the foreign fields, the social
onilitions  there prevent  such.    The
tf. M. S. must do this.   Our W. U. S.
is educating the women to see their
ork, vision and call to the fields be-
olid.   The Sunday Schools are where
^hey  should  begin.    Organized  mis-
ion, iry    education    in    our    Sunday
chooli has only begun n this quad-
ennitim.    They  are    to    co-operate
iwith  the  General   Board.    They are
o do so by carrying a missionary ed-
icational campaign into our Sunday
ghooll not to take away their funds,
hat the General Board may transfer
part   of  the   funds   received   from
jtttfi  schools  to  the  VV.  M, S.  is all
e ask for.
G. J. Bond.
I have seen the W. M. S. and their
ork in foreign fields.    I am one of
he  two   men   here   who   have   seen
Such and I pray, you support the Woman's Missionary Socety.
I have the floor, said Mr. Bell.
No,  sir,  said  the  Chair.     I  didn't
ive it to you.   Clarke has it.
W. H. Clarke.
Why    put    this    on    the    Sunday
Schools if the Board has control of
|it?    Help the W.  M. S. all you can,
lit do not prejudice the work of our
(Sunday Schools,
Major Bell.
lis  will  increas  the  funds..    The
W. M. S. can spend money, dollar for
loflar, as well as the General Board.
Considerable  discussion   ensued   as
the lay and clcrcal representation
pun China and Japan in the General
Conference.    This   was   a   new   pro-
llion as heretofore the foreign fields
ore not allowed to send delegates to
he Parliament of the Church.   Fur-
ler discussion was held on the quee-
tion as Lo who should compose the
Mini in Council in these fields and
what power should be given to the
lay and clerical sections of the same.
J. Gibson.
I protest this action is a hopeless
Rev. J. T. Pitcher.
We are creating by this action a
new conference in China.
S. G. Bland, D.D.
I would like to give representation
in our (ieneral Conference, but it involves many difficulties. We cannot
settle this question now. I move that
clause 13 be stricken out.
Mr. Shore said no! Let the General
Conference Special Committee deal
with it.    (Cries of no, no.)
The Chair: The only solution to
this queston is to consider these men
in (he foreign field as members of the
Home Church and appoint them as
such to your General Conference.
They are but a district meeting yet.
When they have organized as an Annual Conference then they may so
act, but it would be a high piece of
legislation to create of them an Annual Conference at once. Let some
Annual Conference elect some of
these brethren as a part of their General Conference delegation and such
will gve  them proper representation.
A warm discussion arose over the
question as to whether or not Local
Superintendents and Field Secretaries should be members of the General Board of Missions. There was
strong opposition to allowing such
memberships, as they were the appointees of the Board. The discussion was in part as follows:
J.  Gibson  Certainly Said:
Here is another pernicious principle. To let these Field Secretaries in
as members of the Mission Board and
also Local Superintendents, to legislate unfairly and to give the balance
of power to the clergy.
Dr. Stewart.
I am surprised at Brother Gibson.
Who has the balance of power in matters of prosperity?—the layman. Who
fixes the salaries of ministers and professors—the .layman. Who has the
balance of power? Since the inception of Local Superintendecncy the
Board has needed the superintendents
at these meetings. They need their
presence and the information they can
gve.    Let us give, them a vote.
Hon W. H. Cushing.
When you take ministers out of
the pastorate to put them into local
superintendency you are taking men
who have deep interest in the tVOrk.
I cannot vote intelligently on the Mission Board unless I hear from lh !SC
men. I do not see any principle violated in gving these men a vole.
Justice MacLaren.
These men are appointee! ot Ihe
Hoard. We should vote to uphold the
principle that appointees of a Hoard
shall not vote in the meetings of the
If there is one thing that makes my
heart sore it is expressions such as I
have heard that the ministers of our
church are not independent in their
judgment. These appointees are
members of the Church, surely wc can
trust them with a vote.
Hilliard—Up again—he smells a rat
every time the question of law is ;,t
N. W. Rowell, K.C.
I voted in ihe Committee below.
to put the Local Superintendents mi
the Board. Upon further reflection I
think otherwise. It would too greatly enlarge one section ot the Board.
Wc need the advice of these men.
They have given it. They have taken
part in all deliberations, but they have
no vote. Isn't that fair? The only
thing they are shut out from is in the
final matters of legislation. If we
give them ,1 vote we might find ourselves in the position where appointees of the Board would control
the  legislation.
J.   Gibson.
A question—"Sit down, brother,"
said the chair. "You have spoken
twice." I know, but here is a fair
question. Assuming that this item
will pass, what wll be the composition of the Board? This was answered by the chairman.
O. Darwin.
I am a .Superintendent of Missions,
hut I speak as a delegate lo Con
ference. I do not care personally
what the Conference may do. The
full committee recommended that
Local Superintendents shoul I be on
the Board. It was only later in a
small attendance of the committee
that Mr. Rowell introduced a new
clause which disturbed the whole
question.    There is  no man on  the
Board that knows more about our
Miftoa work that Mr. J. M Shannon, and I certainly think he should
be on the Board. In the Presbyterian Church their Local Superintendents are on every Committee
and are members of the Board. 1
would add the names of Mr. Shannon, and so amend the report of the
Brown.—The principle is wrong
The Board should have power to
criticise every appointee of the Hoard
I  shall vote against it.
Treasurer of Misson Fund.
Dr. Speer introduced a motion to
appoint a clerical treasurer of this
Johnson  opposed  it thus:
We have now a giant in finance.
Mr. II, II. Fudger, who has a splcii-
id deputy, I challenge this intelligent body lo produce one word of
criticism against the present condition of our Missonary finances. There
is perfect confidence throughout our
Church   in   our  present   conditions.
Justice MacLaren.
I endorse all that has been said by
Mr. Johnson, but I think business
principles should prevail where such
large amounts of money are at
stake. We have two treasurers in
our Educational and Superannuation
Funds, We should have thfs in every
case where we do not exact bonds.
I have all regard for Mr. Fudger, but
he might have a successor and we
would not want to institute new legislation and exact bonds from him if
wc had not done it previously.
I would not reflect upon the personality of a previous clerical treasurer. If the accounts were not approved, that was the fault of the
auditing committee. Treat this fund
a.s   other   funds.
(To be Continued)
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