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 aSritteb Columbia lumberman
D.   TODD LEES Business Manager
Office,  Mackinnon Building, Granville  S<rcct, Vancouver,  B. C.
Telephone 119C P. O. Drawer 928
Terms of Subscription (Payable in Advancb)
One year, Canada or the L'nited States $ 1 06
One year, Foreign Countries    1 50
Advertising Rates, on Application
Correspondence bearing upon any phase of the lumher industry
will he gratefully acknowledged, and discussion upon trade subjects
is invited.
To our Advertisers.—The British Columbia Lumberman
has a guaranteed circulation of 2,000 copies. It will be found in
every mill, lumber manufactory, logging camp, etc., in the Province
and Puget Sound, besides all dealers in lumber in the Northwest and
Canada generally. To lumber manufacturers, lumber dealers and
machinery makers no better medium has ever been offered in the
gtf" ferson* corresponding with, advertisers in the 'British
Columbia Lumberman will confei a favor by giving the journal
ciedit fot such conespondence.
A $5,000,000 LOSS.
With an estimated loss by bush fires of
five million dollars to standing timber
throughout the Province during the season,
the British Columbia Government has
little reason to be proud of the parental care
which it exercises over this valuable public asset.
If the experience of the past summer does not
suggest remedial action, we know not what will.
The outcome is self-evident: Efficient tire war-
dency system at an annual cost of say $50,000,
or the present rotten system with a Provincial
loss of $5,000,000.
The press of the country has been making much
of the statements that the lumber manufacturers
of this Province were withdrawing in a body
from honorary membership of the Western Retail
Lumber Dealers' Association, and have predicted
all sorts of good times for the Northwest farmer
in the matter of cheap lumber, etc. Although no
definite action has yet been taken by either the
Coast or the Mountain Association regarding
withdrawal from honorary membership of the
Retail Association, there is a strong probability
that they will withdraw unless the conditions of
their membership are lived up to by the retail and
active members of that association. The honorary list was formed and the manufacturers were
asked to subscribe to this list and pay an annual
fee, and it was further expected that the honorary
members would confine their sales to active mem
bers of this association, excepting such as might
be required for building elevators, flour mills,
mine companies, railway companies and the several governments of the provinces and of the
Dominion in any work they may control. This
arrangement has been in effect for some years
and has unquestionably served a purpose, but
during the past year or so many of the retail
dealers have not been confining their purchases
to the honorary members or the manufacturers,
but, instead, have been buying wherever they could
buy the cheapest, and, at the same time, if, by
mistake or otherwise, any of the honorary members sold to consumers or retail dealers in Manitoba and the Northwest who were not members
of the Western Retail Lumber Association they
have been promptly fined so much per car, or in
case they refused to pay the fine, expelled from
membership and notification of such expulsion
sent to all of the active members of the association. As a result of this experience there has
been considerable "kicking over the traces" on
the part of the manufacturers, particularly among
the   Mountain  mills,  and  recently  the   Mountain
mills as a body decided to cut loose entirely from
all connection with the Western Retail Lumber
Association. Any changs in this respect will
go into effect so quietly that it will
scarcely be noticed, and will not in any way
effect prices as far as the manufacturers are concerned, as prices for some time past have been
very low and the trade generally in a very depressed condition, so much so, that it is doubtful
if any margin of profit whatever is being realized
by the manufacturers on the business done.
It is not at all improbable that the Coast mills
will follow the lead of the Mountain mills in
withdrawing from the Western Retail Lumber
Dealers' Association if the retailers do not live up
to their part of the agreement. The Dominion
Government and the Canadian Pacific Railway
appear to be equally indifferent as to the interests
of the Canadian lumber trade, and if it should
become necessary for the lumbermen to help
themselves in every possible way by co-operation
for self-protection, they will be perfectly justified
in doing so.
Manufacturers of Circular, Band and Gang Saws |
R.  HOE & CO.,  New York
Special Attention to Repairs.   All Work Guaranteed.   Orders Executed Promptly. ■,
Ill !
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Planers and Shingle Machines
Iffice and Store, 153 Hastings St.   VANCOUVER, B. C.   Machinery Warehouse, Powell St.
Canadian Pacific Lumber Co., Ltd.
Manufacturers and Wholesale Dealers in All Kinds of
The Largest Shed and Dry Kiln Capacity of any Mill In British Columbia.
special Attention Given to orders Address the Company at Port Moody, or
from Manitoba and the Territories BYRNES 6 CUDDY, Selling Agents, WINNIPEG
D.   TODD LEES,   ....   Business Manager
Office,   Mackinnon   Building.  Granville   Street,  Vancouver,   B. C.
Telephone 1196 P. O. Drawer 928
Terms or Subscription (Payable in Advance)
One year, Canada or the United States $1 06
One year, Foreign Countries    1 50
Advertising Rates on Application
Correspondence bearing upon any phase of the lumber industry
will be gratefully acknowledged, and discussion upon trade subjects
is invited.
To our Advertisers.—The British Columbia Lumberman
has a guaranteed circulation of 2,000 copies. It will be found in
every mill, lumber manufactory, logging camp, etc., in the Province
and Puget Sound, besides all dealers in [umber in the Northwest and
Canada generally. To lumber manufacturers, lumber dealers and
machinery makers no better medium has ever been offered in the
(MP* "Persons corresponding with, advertisers in the "British
Columbia Lumberman will confet a favot by giving the journal
ciedit /or such cottespondence.
A $5,000,000 LOSS.
With an estimated loss by bush fires of
live million dollars to standing timber
throughout the Province during the season,
the British Columbia Government has
little reason to be proud of the parental care
which it exercises over this valuable public asset.
If the experience of the past summer does not
suggest remedial action, we know not what will.
The outcome is self-evident: Efficient lire war-
dency system at an annual cost of say $50,000,
or the present rotten system with a Provincial
loss of $5,000,000.
The press of the country has been making much
of the statements that the lumber manufacturers
of this Province were withdrawing in a body
from honorary membership of the Western Retail
Lumber Dealers' Association, and have predicted
all sorts of good times for the Northwest farmer
in tlie matter of cheap lumber, etc. Although no
definite action has yet been taken by either the
Coast or the Mountain Association regarding
withdrawal from honorary membership of the
Retail Association, there is a strong probability
that they will withdraw unless the conditions of
their membership arc lived up to by the retail and
active members of that association. The honorary list was formed and the manufacturers were
asked to subscribe to this list and pay an annual
fee, and it was further expected that the honorary
members would confine their sales to active mem
bers of this association, excepting such as might
be recpiired for building elevators, flour mills,
mine companies, railway companies and the several governments of the provinces and of the
Dominion in any work they may control. This
arrangement has been in effect for some years
and has unquestionably served a purpose, but
during the past year or so many of the retail
dealers have not been confining their purchases
to the honorary members or the manufacturers,
but, instead, have been buying wherever they could
buy the cheapest, and, at the same time, if, by
mistake or otherwise, any of the honorary members sold to consumers or retail dealers in Manitoba and the Northwest who were not members
of the Western Retail Lumber Association they
have been promptly fined so much per car, or in
case they refused to pay the fine, expelled from
membership and notification of such expulsion
sent to all of the active members of the association. As a result of this experience there has
been considerable "kicking over the traces" on
the part of the manufacturers, particularly among
the  Mountain  mills,  and  recently  the   Mountain
mills as a body decided to cut loose entirely from
all connection with the Western Retail Lumber
Association. Any changs in this respect will
go into effect so quietly that it will
scarcely be noticed, and will not in any way
effect prices as far as the manufacturers are concerned, as prices for some time past have been
very low and the trade generally in a very depressed condition, so much so, that it is doubtful
if any margin of profit whatever is being realized
by the manufacturers on the business done.
It is not at all improbable that the Coast mills
will follow the lead of the Mountain mills in
withdrawing from the Western Retail Lumber
Dealers' Association if the retailers do not live up
to their part of the agreement. The Dominion
Government and the Canadian Pacific Railway
appear to be equally indifferent as to the interests
of the Canadian lumber trade, and if it should
become necessary for the lumbermen to help
themselves in every possible way by co-operation
for self-protection, they will be perfectly justified
in doing so.
! Manufacturers of Circular, Band and Gang Saws
R. Hoe: &l Co., new York
Special Attention to Repairs.   All Work Guaranteed,  Orders Executed Promptly. BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBERMAN
The Twentieth Century Saw
■ ■■/
OVER 40,000 IN USE.
.. u»?*
The Genuine is Made Only By
R. HOE & CO.,
504 to 520 Grand St.
Catalogues with Prices and further particulars sent on application.
Much importance has been attributed to the
meeting of the Railway Commissioners recently
held in Vancouver, and there seems but little
question in our minds that the lumbermen of the
Coast will reap a very material benefit from the
results of the ease put up.
We make no apology for the amount of space
taken up in this issue relative to the deliberations
of the Commission upon the question of lumber
freight rates, feeling assured that our readers
will be glad to have a full and reliable report of
the several meetings.
The lumbermen are to be congratulated in
securing the services of such an able exponent
of their grievances as Mr. Miller proved himself
to be. I lis previous connection with the Freight
Department of the L". 1'. K. at Montreal stood him
in good stead, and his intimate acquaintance with
the methods by which the transactions of that
department are carried out made him a powerful
adversary against the local representative of the
railway company. Mr. Greer evidently realized
from   the  -tart   that   he  had  a  weak  case, and  his
rebuttal of various arguments accomplished nothing for his side. The effort made to show that
the question of discrimination in rates as between
Coast and Mountain mills was nothing more or
less than jealousy on the part i>l the former, must
have been very disappointing, a- the company's
witnesses conclusively proved that no such feeling
existed, but that both associations were most
harmonious  in   their  dealings.
The main question at issue was an alleged discrimination by the railroad in favor of the Mountain mills in the rates upon cedar lumber. The
conditions being that the Mountain lumbermen
had a differential rate on their product into the
Territories and Manitoba, of 7c per too lbs., but
the differential rate included cedar also, whereas
the Coast lumbermen conclusively showed that an
apparent illegal discrimination of 17c. existed
upon cedar lumber from Coast points to Winnipeg and Manitoba points. The company endeavored to show that the grade and quality of ihe
Mountain cedar necessitated and justified that
discrimination, but expert evidence failed to prove
the contention, while the argument that the proportion of clear cedar in the mountains was vastly
smaller than that of local cedar equally failed to
convince the Commissioners, so likewise did the
car weight question, and in fact every argument
put up by the railway company. Doubtless Mr.
Greer did his best, but it was a difficult task to
make a case when he had no case at all.
The Commissioners gave the company every
opportunity and consideration in the matter, but
plainly showed that the contention of the lumbermen was a just one, and there is little doubt but
that they will get everything they have asked for.
If our prediction is correct it will give a tremendous impetus to the trade of the Coast. It will
be an undoubted benefit to the settler as it will
enable Coast mills to get rid of heavy accumulating stocks of rough cedar lumber along with the
higher grades, and thus tend to lower the prices
of the whole by allowing the mills to realize on
hitherto unsaleable rough lumber. The C. P. R.
will benefit by increased sales and consequent
heavier freights, and it would be a wise move of
the company to immediately give in to the lumbermen in their request to the Commissioners,
instead of waiting till it is compelled to do so.
To act now would mean money in the pockets of
everybody; a month hence would be too late for
this season.
The A. R. Williams Machinery Co., Limited
Have the following Wood-working Machinery tor prompt shipment:
1133(1    21 in.  Eclipse Surfacer,  Major, Harper & Son   make.
(Second  Hand.)
r021 :i*i in. Whitney  Planer.
Sis:; 36 in.  Diagonal   Knife   Planer,
0721 24 in. Diagonal   Knife  Planer.
10290 20 in. Planer.
10472 24 in. Planer,   Cant.   Bros,    make,
1106") 26 in. Double   Surface   Planer.
11302 -,»1 in. Revolving    Bed   Planer.
11589 26 in.  Double   Planer,
11049 21  in. Planer,   MacGregor  Gourla.y   Co.   make.
11712 '.'ii in.  McKechnie &   Bertram  make.
11716 24  in.  Revolving   Bed   Plain r.
3016 24  in. Long   Bed   Planer,
10481    24 in. MacGregor    Gourlay    Planer   and    Matcher.
10686    Nn.   20   Planer  and   Matcher,  Clark  &   Demill    make.
10916     No.   Ii    Planer   and    Matcher,    Jackson    Cochrane   Co.
11126 No.   :.'<)   Planer   and   Matcher,   Clark   &   Demill    make.
11210     :.'tin.   Eclipse    Planer    and    Matcher,     Major.    Harper
&   Son   make,
lllo;     ■„' I   in.   Planer    ami    Matcher,    Jackson    Cochrane    Co.
11:; 11     21  in.   Eclipse   Planer  and   Matcher,   Major   Harper  &
Son  make.
(Second  Hand.)
5310     Pony   Planer   and   Matcher.
tiinii     :.'I   in.  Wood    frame   Planer   and   Matcher.
3201     '.'I   in.  Wood   Frame   Planer  and   Matcher.
101(53     '-'ii  in.   Planer    ami    Matcher,    Harper   make.
10653    •,'I  in.   Planer    and    Matcher,    MeKcclinie   &    Bertram
10759    Champion    Planer   ami    Matcher.
in? 1:1     •.'I   in.   Planer    ami    Matcher.
11618     '-' I   in.   Planer   and   Matcher,   Goldie   &   McCulloch   Co.
11127 12 in. I'm// Planer. Clark Si Demill make.
10859 16 in. I'm// Planer, Clark \- Demill make.
11256     Hi  in.   Buzz   Planer,   Clark  81   Demill make.
(Second   Hand.)
1 I 159     I I  in.   Bit//   Planer.
10186     12   in.   Buzz   Planet.
10309    16 in. Buzc Planer.
10951    Wood Top  Frizzer.
InliTO     No.  (i  Shaper,  Clark  &   Demill  make.
11253     No.  G  Shapor,  Clark &   Demill  make.
11489     No.   ,Ml  Shaper,  Clark  &   Demill   make.
XG    Heavy   Pattern   Shaper,   Clark  &   Demill  make.
(Second   Hand.)
10034     Two   Spindle   Shaper,    McKechnie   &   Bertram   make.
1528    Wood   Frame  Shaper.
11331    Wood  Frame Shaper.
0027    Variable   Self   Eced   Rip   Saw   Table,   Clark  &   Demill
1171!)    Universal    Saw   Table,    Colburn    Machine    Tool    Co.
1(l,'>7S    Combination   Rip   and   Cross   Cut   Saw    Table,   Clark
&   Demill  make.
10680    Combination   Kip   and   Cross   Cut   Saw   Table,   Cdark
&   Demill make.
1il(i(U    Cut   Off   Saw   Table,   Ballantine   make.
11604     No.   17   Dimension   Saw   Table.  Clark &   Demill  make.
11600    No.   24   Self   Eeed   Kip   Saw    fable,   Clark   &   Demill
11430    No.   1   Variety  Saw  Table,  American  Wood  Working
Machinery   Co.    make.
11473    Cut   Off  Saw  table,   Ballantine &  Co.  make.
11506    Variety   Saw  'fable.   1.   E.   Shantz  &   Co.   make.
(Second   Hand.)
11157 Carriage Cut  Off  Saw  Table.
1ii!)17 Barnes   Saw   Table.
10880 Barnes   Saw   'fable.
1II7-.".) Wood   frame   Saw   'fable.
8593 ■-' I in.  Boss   Sander,   Bridgman   &   Perry  make.
10652 :«i in.  Two   Drum  Sander,  Cant  Gourlay  Co.  make.
003!) 86 in.  Sander.
KlliO ( 3(1 in.  'two   Drum   Sander,   Cant   Bros.   make.
11181 12 in.  Three  Drum  Sander, Cowan & Co. make,  new.
10887 Elbow Sander, Kalblleiseh   Bros.   make.
11563 Elbow Sander, Taylor  &   Mackenzie   make,
111(10 Elbow Sander, second   hand.
10744 Elbow Sander, second   hand.
0864 10 in.  Four  Side Moulder, Cowan & Co., make.
10647 12 in.  Four  Side  Moulder,   Ballantine &  Co.   make.
1118(1 ll) in.  Four  Side,   Cowan  &  Co.   make.
\<l 12 in.   Four   S<dc,   Cowan  &  Co.  make.
11171 12 in.   Four   Side,   Ballantine  &  Co.  make.
(Second   Hand.)
1133.-.    7 itt.  Three  Side  Moulder,  second  hand.
11309    S in.   Four   Side  Moulder,  Goldie     McCulloch   make.
1100.'.    Three   Side   Moulder,   MacGregor   Gourlay   Co.   make.
10742    7 in. Three   Side   Moulder.
10440    (i in.  Four   Side   Moulder.
10049    <i in. One  Side  Wood   1 Tame  Moulder,
11 458
87!) 1
I 11(1-1
1 1 765
Power  Morticer, Clark &  Demill  make,  new.
•No.    7   Chain    Morticer,    New    Britain    Machine   Co.
make,   new.
Hollow Chisel  Morticer,  Cant   Bros,  make,  new.
Power   Morticer,   second   hand.
Power  Morticer, Cowan & Co.  make, second hand.
Foot  Power  Morticer,  Cowan  Co.  make,  new.
Pedestal   Tenon   Machine,   Cowan   &   Co.   make,   new.
Vertical Tenqn Machine, II. B. Smith make, second
Tenon   Machine,   Ballantine make,   second   hand.
Double Cone Tenon Machine, Cant Bros, make,
second   hand.
Wood   Frame,   Tenon   Machine,   second   hand.
Tenon   Machine,   Cameron  &  Co.   make,   second   hand.
Wool Frame Tenon Machine, McKechnie & Bertram  make,  second  hand.
No.   I    Panel   Raiser,   Jackson   Cochrane   Co.   make.
Wood   Frame   Boring   Machine,   second   hand.
Wood    Frame    Horizontal    Boring    Machine,    second
Wood   Frame  Vertical   Boring   Machine,  second  hand.
Vertical  Two  Spindle   Boring  Machine,  second  hand.
Four   Spindle   Boring   Machine.
Rim   Boring   Machine,   second   hand.
Upright   I!''ring   Machine,   second   hand.
Boring   Machine.
Post   Boring   Machine,  new,  Clark  &   Demill   make.
Post   Boring  Machine,    new,    Taylor &   MacKenzie
3d in.  Bracket   Band   Saw,  Clark   &   Demill   make.
30 in.  Bracket  Band  Saw, Major Harper & Sim make.
:!(i in.   Pedestal   Band   Saw,   Harper   make.
30 in.   Band   Saw,   Cowan  &  Co.   make.
3() in.   Post    Band   Saw,   Harper   make.
Circular   Re-Saw,  second  hand.
No. 4  Reversible Re-Saw, Jackson Cochrane Co. make,
40 in.. Band Re-Saw,  Ballantine & Co.  make.
60 in.  Re-Saw.  J.   A.   Fay make,  second  hand.
80 in.     Circular   Re-Saw, second  hand.
No. 2  Swing Saw, Clark &  Demill make.
No.  1   Swing Saw, Clark &  Demill make.
No. 51   Swing Saw,  Clark & Demill make.
No.   1   Swing  Saw   Irons,   Major   Harper make.
Swing Saw, Jas.  Martin & Son make.
18 in. Wood   loathe,   Taylor  &   McKenzie   make,   new.
21) in.  Wood  Lathe,   Taylor  &   McKenzie  make,   new.
•o^uiu  -sojii  ".spum^M  '">mET  P00A\ '"! 01    46801 BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBERMAN
1    !
Some days ago we were confronted with a
report from Winnipeg stating that the well-
known firm of T. Eaton & Co.. of Toronto, had
contracted for the building of a large store at
Winnipeg. This store, it is reckoned, will consume between 300,000 and 400,000 feet of lumber.
Specifications of the lumber requirements were
submitted to British Columbia milimen, but the
contract was finally awarded to Washington mill-
men, their tender being $5.50 per 1.000 feet f.o.b.
at the mill.
In view of the persistent efforts of our milimen
to obtain a duty upon rough lumber, no better
evidence is necessary to show the conditions
under which the lumbermen of this Province
labor. Of all the business houses in Canada, we
know of none whose aim should be to support
home industries more than that of T. Eaton & Co.,
but at the prices quoted, patriotism seems to
have been but a secondary consideration. When
it is known that logs cost all of $7.00 per 1,000
feet, it will at once be seen that the lumber was
offered at less than cost, the most direct evidence
that our neighbors across the line have still an
overproduction to get rid of, and the Canadian
market  i-  the best dumping ground.
Again,  attention  has  repeatedly  been  called  in
fcthese columns to the surprising building activity
Winnipeg this season, and among other large
idertakings are the extensive  improvements of
le C. P. R. holdings in that city In consequence
these improvements it was to be expected that
ivy orders for lumber would have been placed
th the Coast milimen.    Inquiry has elicited the
formation that the larger proportion of lumber
lers went to the Sound.    This is a happy con-
tion of affairs, when a railway company whose
is   supposed   to  be   the     building  up   of  the
)untry through which its line runs, passes over
fche heads of those whom it is morally bound to
'support and thus discourage one of the first industries of the country by patronizing a foreign
market. This breach of faith is all the more flagrant when we recollect the philanthropic outbursts of the same company to the "poor, tleeced
Northwest farmer," and the indignation so
widely heralded some months ago against the so-
called "combination" of British Columbia lumber
Tn view of the foregoing the following extract
from the daily press of Vancouver, of an interview with General Manager Whyte, has a peculiar significance, and forcibly reminds us of the
methiids of "Shylock":
"I can see a great future for the trade of British
Columbia with the Northwest. Every year will
bring more and more settlers into the great wheat
growing belt, and their first requisite will be
lumber with which to build houses for themselves and shelters for their stock. There will
be great demands for fruit, and British Columbia
will be well able to supply what is required. On
our return we will go into the Okanagan country,
and I shall observe particularly the conditions of
the   fruit-growing  industry."
The withdrawal of the Interior and Coast lumbermen from honorary membership in the Western Retail Lumber Dealers' Association is regarded by Mr. Whyte as very favorable for the
settlers in the Territories. "It will mean that
lumber will be sold to whoever has the price," he
remarked, "and retailers will not be able to charge
the very high prices they used to and keep other
merchants out of the field. This hardship to the
farmer has been somewhat alleviated by the action
of the company in insisting upon the posting of
a schedule of wholesale prices in every C. P. R.
station in the Northwest, so that the fanners
could see just what the retailers' margin was, and
this action on the p/trt of the Western manufacturers of lumber will assist very materially. The
retailers had it too much their own way."
If this is the way we are to he used by corporations in Canada whose aim is supposedly the
upbuilding of Canadian industries, it is surely
time the Government of the country did something to protect one of the most important in
the West.
The Quatsino Pulp & Power Co. have surveyed 50.000 acres of their extensive limits and
SO far the cruise is fully up to expectations. The
field notes showing an average of 50,000 feet to
the acre in first class timber, which consists
chiefly of spruce, balsam and  fir.
Specifications and plans are now being prepared
for the erection of the plant, preparatory to calling for tenders for it> erection. The plant and
mill is to have a capacity capable of manufacturing 125 tons of pulp a day. This will, no
doubt, give a strong impetus to the northern part
of the Island and the pay roll, when work is
under way. will be a heavy one.
The company has secured the services of Mr.
Colby a hydraulic engineer of international reputation, who has completed his plans for the development of the water power and who,will have
charge of that branch of the work. It is the intention of the company, wherever possible, to place
its orders for machinery in  Canada.
The following new companies have received
certificates of incorporation from the Registrar
of Joint   Stock   Companies  in   British   Columbia:
The Royal Lumber Company, Ltd., with a capital of $500,000, in $1,00 shares. The objects of
the company are to carry on business in the Province of British Columbia and throughout the
Dominion of Canada as timber merchant-, sawmill proprietors and lumbermen, and in all or
any of its branches, and to buy, -ell, grow, prepare for market, manipulate, import, export and
deal in saw log-, timber, lumber and wood of all
kinds, and to manufacture and deal in article- of
all kinds in the manufacture of which timber or
wood is used or forms a component part, etc., etc.
The Export Lumber & Shingle Company, Ltd.,
with a capital of $50,000, in $100.00 shares. The
objects of the company are: To buy, -ell. prepare for market, manipulate, export, import,
manufacture and deal in lumber, shingles, laths,
sashes, doors and timber and wood of all kinds
and to manufacture and deal in all kinds of
finishings and articles in the manufacture of which
timber and Wood is Used, and to carry on business
as timber and lumber merchants, sawmill and
-hinglemill proprietors, and engage in the business of lumbering in  all its branches, etc., etc
The Canadian Pipe Company, Ltd., with a
capital of $25,000, in $10.00 shares. The objects
for which the company is organized are: To
acquire and take over as a going concern the business now carried on in the Province of British
Columbia by J. R. Berry under the name of The
Canadian Pipe Company, and all and every the
assets and liabilities of that business used or incurred in connection therewith, and to carry on
the business, manufacture and sale of wooden and
other piping and everything in connection there
wrth, etc., etc.
Tho   law  prohibiting the   export   of  logs   from
British   Columbia   will remain   as   it   is,   and   the
loggers   will   receive   :i negative   answer   to   their
a       worrespoi\aei\ce
Victoria City Lumbermen Have an Active Season
—Local Stock Depleted Owing to Heavy
Demand—C  P. R. Improvements
in Progress.
Victoria, Sept. 19.—The continued fine weather
which Victoria has enjoyed during the past month
has proved a boon to the building fraternity, for
it has encouraged many, who look upon the building season as drawing to a close, to let contracts
for dwellings, stores and other buildings. In this
way the local mills and factories have been kept
busy to such an extent that some of them are
complaining that orders for immediate delivery
are so brisk that it prevents their renewing their
stocks, which are in most cases quite low in consequence of the generous demands which have
been made upon them during the summer. Needless to say these complaints are neither hitter nor
serious for those who make them feel well content and are confident that a remedy will he forthcoming during the dull winter season. Sonic of
the larger mill- are gradually tilling up their
yard- with Stock 111 anticipation of eastern operand one at lea-t expect- to export a considerable
tonnage to Great Britain during the coming
C. P. R. Contract Awarded.
The letting of the contract for the foundation
of the Canadian Pacific Hotel (to be built upon
what was formerly known as the James' Hay
flat-) to the British Columbia Construction ( om-
pany has caused a flutter of excitement 111 lumbering circle-, for the work will require a very
large quantity of piles and other rough lumber,
Already the contractors are assembling their
plant and materials on the ground and the erstwhile odoriferous mud flats will soon be the scene
of great activity, as the work is to be pushed with
all  possible  rapidity.
The  substructure of the  new  Canadian   Pacific
dock   is   Hearing   completion,   and   when   the   big
freight   sheds,   offices,   baggage   rooms,   waiting
rooms, etc., are  added,  it   will  make  a grent  mi
provement  in  Victoria's  inner harbor.
Notes and Comments.
Inquiries for the purchase of Crown granted
timber lands on Vancouver Island are heme received here almost daily from United States lumbermen. Some of the holders of these valuable
lands have disposed of them at absurdly low
prices, and even now that prices have stiffened
somewhat, lar^c tracts of line timber can he
bought for what will prove a song in the not
distant future. It seems a pity that all the choice
timber should fall into alien hands and that ( ana-
dian capitalists should neglect the golden opportunity which now presents itself to secure these
lands, but 50 long as our Provincial authorities
adhere to the wise policy of insisting upon the
lumber being manufactured within the province,
there 1- the consolation that all the profit will not
go to the foreigner.
The report that Puget Sound lumbermen are
shipping lumber round the Horn in considerable
quantities is rousing local shippers to a realization that lumber shipped from here can be landed
at New York and all points on the Atlantic seaboard for less money than charged by the ti ins-
continental railways. Besides the advantage ot
lower freight rates, the ocean route enable- the
shipment of longer sticks, the timber on UN*
coast being much larger and longer than any tha
is produced in the East.
The   cruisers   and   surveyors   of   the   Quatsino
Power and  Pulp Company report good progre
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North Pacific Lumber Co., Ltd
BARNET,   B.   C.
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Mills on Burrard Inlet and Canadian Pacific Railway
L. A. LEWIS, General Manager
Brunette Saw Mill Co., Ltd.
(P. 0. Address, SAPPERTON, B. C.)
Lumber, Shingles, Boxes, Mouldings
•J* You need not go elsewhere: we supply all kinds of British Columbia Lumber 4
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<$t It pays to order Lumber, Shingles, Mouldings, Laths, Doors, Etc., In «f
4* mixed carloads, as you can then keep less on hand, and ordering *j
y In this way you get quicker shipment      *f
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£ Saw Mill, Planing Mill, Shingle Mill and Box Factory on G.P.R. and Fraser River, at Sapperton *
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About one-half of the company's concession has
been surveyed and cruised, and it is reported that
the results are most gratifying to the parties interested.
'I'he Sliawnigan Lake Lumber Company is supplying the material for the Dominion Government
snagboat which is under construction at the Tur-
pel works. The boat when completed will he
used on the  Fraser River.
The Dominion Government having decided to
extend the breakwater at Sidney, an additional
order for heavy timbers lias been received by the
Sidney mill.
The Queen City brings full cargoes of lumber
from the Quatsino null on every trip and the
line quality ^i the stuff insures its ready sale on
arrival here.
'fhe Finnish Colony on Malcolm Island is reported to have a small sawmill in successful operation.
'fhe Seattle Spruce Lumber Company is contemplating the building of a large mill at Clayo-
qui >t.
Messrs. Daykin, of Carmanah, have arrived with
a goml sized boom of spruce, fir and cedar logs,
cut   on  their  limits  at   Nitnat.
The Lumber Trade Benefits From the Satisfactory
Reports of the Western Wheat Returns
Winnipeg's Building Record Will
Be a Big One.
Winnipeg, September 16.—With what must be
lonsidered a very fair crop under process of har-
RSting and the movement of grain to the terminal
■levators commenced, resulting in the circulation
of considerable money in the farming communities of the middle west, business prosperity is
quite uj) to the standard for this season of the
year in Winnipeg and the surrounding centres.
While there is not a great deal of movement in
real estate, which has been practically the life of
commerce here for the past two years, there is
not likely to be any drop in price as notwithstanding the immense amount of residential and
office building which has been done this season,
there is still a greater demand for houses and
stores than can be satisfied with the available
supply. The building season, now about half
completed, has been one of the most active in
the history of the city, and the class of construction has been such that lumbermen and agents
for building supplies of all kinds have had a most
pnditable   summer.
'fhe bulk of the season's contracts are now
about finished and the representatives of the various lumber agencies in the city will go after the
country trade with increased vigor. With the
prospect of continued immigration to the west
and the consequent growth of the demand for
timber products, the lumber companies are making preparations   lor  one  oi   the  heaviest   cuts  in
the  w Is   in   the   history   of   the  country.     It   is
evident, too, that the labor supply will be plentiful, as the vast number of men who have bad
employment during the summer in the numerous
railway construction camps will be anxious to
continue at work during the winter months in the
lumber camps. The season will be unusually
active in  the Rainy  Lake districts.
To Erect Box Factory.
'fhe Rainy River Lumber Company, which has
a large mill at that town in the New Ontario dis-
trict, proposes to erect a box factory. The enterprise will employ a large staff of men and it
is believed that a good market for the output of
the factory will be furnished in the West.
Rat Portage  Co.'s Cut.
fin' complete cut of the Rat Portage Lumber
Company, m the Rainy River and Rainy Lake
districts,   for   the   last   season   has   been   computed
b) Manager P. A. Smith at 100,000,000 feet. This
represents an expenditure >>i about half a million
dollars in the district in the production ol the
lumber, to say nothing >>i the extras over this
amount in posts, ties, piling and other products
<A  the  forest  taken  out   for  other  firms.
Activity   at   Fort   Frances.
The portable sawmill to be used in the cutting
of the timber and lumber to be used in the con
struction ^i the big power dam for the Koochich
ing Power Company at Fort Frances is to he
erected in a few days, and the operations on the
work will soon he under way. A problem which
is to he considered, however, is the probable effect
of the erection of the dam in the raising of the
water in the river and the lake, 'fhe plans of
the work have been submitted to the Ontario
Government for approval, but before this is given
Engineer Fairbairn "i the Provincial Public
Works Department, who is now on the ground,
will investigate the site and will report to the
Government* as to the result of the erection of
the dam according to the plans which the com
pany  have  submitted.
To Reform Lumbermen.
A unique movement in the way of social reform
has been suggested by some of the leading lumbermen of the New Ontario districts who propose to inaugurate temperance societies among
the employes of the camps and nulls 111 the district. A meeting is to be called shortly at the
town of Rainy River io discuss the proposal,
No definite action has yet been taken, 'fhe labor
market at the Ramy Lake centres is not overcrowded by any means, and the Preston-Bell
Company's mill had to operate only one shift for
some time on that account. 'I'he situation has
now been relieved, however, and the null 1- being
run at night again.
Railway  Construction  in the  West
Railway work in the Canadian Northwest has
been unusually active this season and the jobbers
who take out lies in the winter are assured t'l
a busy session when the cold weather sets in, as
a large output of that class of timber will be required for the tracklaying to be done next year.
The extension of the Canadian Northern towards
Battleford is progressing very rapidly and there
are now 000 teams at work near that place on the
grade contracts held by J. D. McArthur. Six
miles of grading is being built daily and it is
expected that before the winter sets m the road
bed will have been graded to within \o miles of
the  Barr Colony.
Ontario Mining Record.
According to the report of the Bureau of Mines
of  the   Province   of  Ontario,   which   has  just   been
issued,   there   were   43  joint   stock   companies   m
corporated under  the  laws  of that   Province  dining 1903, to engage in the various departments of
the  mineral   industry,   with   an   aggregate   author
ized  capital  of  $35,534,000,   as   compared   with   ;X
such   companies   with   a   capital   ot   48,590,000   in
[902,   Twelve   extra-provincial   companies   took
out  licenses to do business in  the   Province  with
a   capital   of   $12,000,000,   the   number   of   similar
companies   in   l<)<)2   being   15   with   an   aggregate
capital  of $17,375,000.    English capital  is  not   re
presented to any marked extent, most ot  the out
side   companies   desiring   to   operate   in   Ontario
coming from  the   United States.
Winnipeg Lumberman Weds.
Dan. B Sprague. of the Sprague Lumber Com
pany of this city, has gone to < Ittawa, < >nt„ where
he is to be wedded this month to Miss Bonnie
Simpson, a charming young lady of that city, who
in the past has resided for some time in Winnipeg,     Mr. Sprague, who is one of the most  popu
lar young men  of the city,  on  the eve of hi
parture  for the east  was  made  the  recipient
beautiful china  dinner set  by  his bachelor
At the Head of Lakes.
John Murray of the Lake Superior Tit ,
Company   of   Port   Arthur,   which   has   exte
hunts in that district, Mates that his firm will m
commence driving pulpwood of which i; IS
taken  out   a   vast   quantity   this  season.
'fhe    Pigeon   River   Lumber   Corhpny   of ,,-t
William is getting its winter camps in ordei mil
proposes to make a very heavy cut on its Minnesota   limits   this  coming   season.
Winnipeg City Uses Lumber.
1 hie ot tin' largest local consumers of lumber
this summer, has been the Corporation of th, Citv
of Winnipeg, which has put down an unusually
large amount ot plank sidewalk. Several ol the
leading streets leading to country roads have also
been block paved, the foundation for which ij also
a heavy consumer of the rougher classes ,,:' lumber.
\Y. II. Armstrong, of Melford on the 1m, , | the
Canadian Northern, has sold his sawmill and
extensive limits m that district t*■ the Saskatchewan Valley Lumber Company. It is understood
that the new owners will, this season, take out a
large cut and that the null will be kept in pera-
tion  possibly  the  year  round  in   future.
Lumbermen  Erect   Houses.
Ramy River is to have a number of fun resi
deuces as the men Connected with the companies
which are establishing large plants there are
putting up expensive houses. Among those who
will have permanent residences in the tour, are
J A. Mathn 11. managing director, and George S.
Parker, treasurer, of the Rainy River Lumber
( ompany; both ot whom are putting up handsome houses which are now Hearing completion.
Dan Robertson, manager of the Rat Portage
Lumber Company, is also erecting a im, brick
structure, which, when completed, will he an
ornament  to the town,
Selling  Freely  on Toronto  Market,    But    Little
Activity in Higher Grades, With Consequently  a.  Weaker   Price—Strike
Interferes  With   Demands
Toronto, September 12, I'he main characteristics of the lumber market at present are a good
demand for the lower grades of lumber and a slow
sale   tor   anything   above   the   grade   of   dressing
With the exception of id meh common, other
kinds ol lower grade lumber are moving freely.
Prices on the higher qualities have accordingly
weakened, but are otherwise linn. There has been
a very marked falling off in the requirements ol
the British market, which, however, has been fully
made up by the large demands of Western I hi
tario. To supply this season's requirements,
manufacturers are having to kiln dry eonini'"! ami
dressing lumber W t,, box lumber, the demand
is steadily increasing beyond the capacity ol tin'
market 'fhe importations of American yellow
pine    principally    in    dimension    lumber   comes
largely into competition with the Canada I"'1"
duet and indicates an over production ! • tlu
American market. There is an increasin pendency on the part of the retail trade to buj meet
from the manufacturer, and the effect ol this is
to  deter   wholesalers   from   ordering  large   ,toCKS
and to confine orders to immediate requn      >'
'flu   trade is generally on a sound basis ami hms
are promptly met.     A  representative ot  a      tdmg
manufacturing  linn  speaking  on  this subje     sa
that   twenty  years  ago about   (o per cent. "
paper had to be renewed, while this seas     n
1   per cent,  of their customers had  asked
extension   of   time.     'I'he   weak   men   ha'
largely   weeded  out   of   the  business. BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBERMAN
Labor Strikes Affect Building Operations.
Local conditions in Toronto are at present unfavorable and trade dull, owing to a strike of
builders' laborers and bricklayers, which commenced about the middle of August and has
caused a cessation of building operations.
Repeated attempts to effect a settlement hy
arbitration have failed, and from present appearances the strike bids fair to be a light to a finish.
Up to the time of its commencement this season
promised to be a record one in the matter of
building, as in addition to the requirements in
increased dwelling house accommodation caused
by the steady growth of the population, extensive
contracts were entered into for the building of
business structures in the burned district. Nearly
all of these are now tied up indefinitely, owing to
the strike, which, of course, reacts unfavorably
on the local lumber market.
which   was   promised   by   the   Government   some
time since.
An   Object   Lesson   for   Shingle   Manufacturers.
The demand for British'Columbia shingles is
good, but the trade has been greatly injured by
reason of the cutting of prices owing to which
some of the leading firms refuse to handle them.
( )in- linn which formerly dealt extensively in
them, sometimes ordering as many as ioo carloads at a time, gave up this branch of the trade,
some time since, because they found that they
were being undersold by small jobbers supplied
by members of the association. The want of uniformity in prices has been the great drawback to
the development of a profitable trade.
Lumbering Conditions Suggest Restricted Cutting
So far as can be ascertained the tendency
among operators is to restrict very considerably
the output of the coming season, as they maintain that with present prices, there is little profit
in the business and that a smaller output will
result in the increase, which they have been
anticipating, There is one influence, however,
which strongly militates against the policy that
the leading linns have adopted, namely, the high
price at which limits have lately been held. The
weaker linns are under a great temptation to
cut as extensively as their means will permit, to
recoup themselves for the outlay for timber
limits, the interest on which forms a considerable
item, 'flu- price paid to the Ontario Government
lor the privilege of cutting is estimated on the
basis of recent sales of timber limits at about $6
per 1,000 feet, the yearly interest on which would
be 3<>e. per 1,000. It can readily he seen, therefore, that there is a strong inducement to overstock the market in order to realize as quickly as
possible   on   the   investment.
Fire Ranging Effective.
The lire ranging system of the Ontario Government has been put to a severe test this season by
the construction of the Temiskaming and Northern Ontario Railway, which runs for something
like (10 miles through the Temagami forest
reserve. As a rule the building of railroads
through a pine-bearing country has in the past
resulted in the destruction id" valuable forest areas
by bush tires, owing either to the carelessness of
the workmen employed or the sparks from passing trains. When the construction of the Temiskaming & Northern was undertaken. special
arrangements were made for the protection of the
forest. During the Slimmer, however, in spite of
all precautions, there have been about a dozen
small lires along the route, all ot which, fortunately, have been suppressed hy the lire rangers
with comparatively slight damage. The lire
patrol system has been thoroughly organized and
the track is regularly patrolled by rangers who
have railroad velocipedes at their disposal. The
completion id' the road without serious disaster
from hush lires through the district is regarded
by the Crown lands officials as a signal proof of
thi' efficiency of the service.
Dr. Judsofi Clark, the recently appointed Forester of the Ontario Government, has begun his
official duties and made a trip of inspection to
the forest reserves." .It is understood that this is
preliminary to the formulation of a definite policy
in  regard  to  their management and exploitation.
New Lumber Area.
The exploration of Northern Ontario this
season has disclosed the existence of large areas
id' valuable timber in addition to the formerly
known sources of supply, A report from the
expedition in charge of J. G. McMillan, engaged
in the exploration of the region west of Lake
Abitibi, states that along the rivers and creeks
of a region covering some 175 square miles, a
great deal of valuable white spruce has been
found, some of it as large as 32 inches in diameter, and averaging 16 inches, together with
poplar, balsam and 'black spruce. These areas
extend from two to three chains to half a mile
back from the water front, and as the country
is intersected with numerous watercourses, the
aggregate amount of timber discovered is considerable. Black spruce of a smaller size also
grows in profusion in the Interior, and there are
also frequent areas well timbered with poplar
and balsam. The principal importance of these
discoveries is in connection with the pulp and
paper industries, for which the raw material
exists in such abundance in Northern Ontario.
These manufactures will certainly be a considerable factor in the development of that portion of
the Province lying beyond the pine limit, but un-
fortunatdly the Ross Government has shown
itself too ready to grant monopoly franchises to
syndicates and corporations whose object has
been in many cases purely speculative, so that
there is little actual progress so far to show in
return for the special privileges granted to these
favored concerns. A case now before the election courts promises some interesting revelations
as to the abuse of power by the Government in
conferring pulp wood franchises upon political
favorites in return for their support in elections.
Hon. Elihu J. Davis, Commissioner of Crown
Lands, is charged with gross personal corruption in the last general election. It is alleged
that he gave a valuable pulp wood concession
in Algoma to 0. B. Sheppard, the theatrical
manager, of Toronto, and others, with the
privilege of cutting pulp wood on the Spanish,
Vermilion and Onaping Rivers for 21 years in
return for a heavy subscription to his campaign
fund in the North York election. With the Cap.
Sullivan case fr<*sh in the memories of the public,
as well as the manner in which the reorganization of the Sault Ste. Marie industries was turned :
to political account, such a transaction is quite in
accordance with the antecedents and proven practices of the Government. The Administration
have made desperate efforts to prevent the case
coming to trial, but so far the Conservatives have
refused to "saw off" the petition against Davis,
ami he will have to face the music on the 20th
inst. While there are some features in the Government's timber policy which are creditable to
them, the manner in which special privileges have
been bartered for political support amT cash contributions to the party funds, cannot be too
strongly condemned.
Strike Settled.
Under date of September 15th the builders'
strike in Toronto has been adjusted, the men
acknowledging that they have been beaten, and
they return to work at the old scale of 25c. per
hour. Unfortunately too little of the building
season yet remains for any extensive undertakings being commenced before spring.
Semi-Annual Meeting of the Pacific Coast Lumber
Manufacturers' Association Accomplishes Good Work.
which he touched upon all the vital questions
affecting the lumber interests of the Northwest.
As President of the St. Paul & Tacoma Lumber
Company, Mr. Foster has acquired a very intimate knowledge of the needs of the trade, and
has been instrumental in bringing about many
reforms. He has made somewhat of a study of
the forest reserve question, and stated that the
total area of the forest reserve amounted to
10,000,000 acres, or a trifle less than 2$ per cent.
of the forest area. "It was gratifying," he continued, "to learn that the proposed increases in
the forest reserve, about 303,640 acres, had been
recommended for elimination by the forest
bureau. Roughly estimated, the Geological
Survey has placed our area of merchantable
timber lands in this State at approximately 16,000
square miles. About 22 per cent, of this total
area has been burned, and something like 20 per
cent, has been logged off, leaving about 58 per
cent, of the 16,000 square miles for this and coming  generations   of   the     State   of  Washington."
Regarding the 40 per cent, rate to Missouri
River points, Senator Foster said:
"Our mills need this relief very badly and 1 am
sure the committee has presented the case in the
strongest possible manner to the traffic managers
of the interested railroads. While the average
price of lumber is now exceptionally, and, 1 may
say, in many instances, ruinously low, the cost of
production shows a marked upward tendency.
The output, however, has been climbing higher
and higher, jumping from an estimate of 284,000,-
000 feet for Washington and Oregon in 1900, to
640,000,000 feet in 1903. During the same period
the shingle output in cars went from 24,000 to
"Of the 162,000 carloads of lumber going annually into the Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota
and Western Iowa and Western Missouri points—
to which you seek to have the 40c. rate extended
—we now ship only 9,000 carloads from the
Pacific Coast. Minnesota and Wisconsin contribute approximately 53,000 carloads, and the
Southern manufacturers 100,000 carloads. With
the desired extension our mills could, no doubt,
increase their output into that particular territory—a territory that should be neutral ground,
free for all  shippers—fully 25,000 carloads."
Disastrous Fires.
This has probably been one of the most disastrous years in the history of the Pacific Coast as
regards forest fires. Millions of feet of valuable
timber have been destroyed in this State, as well
as in Oregon and California. Most of the fires are
caused by carelessness of farmers and campers,
and during the extreme hot and dry weather it
does not take long for a fire to spread in the dry
underbrush. The fire wardens of the State have
been unable to cope with the situation, and few
of the fires have been put out; many are still
raging. A forest fire west of McMillan, in P?erce
County, has destroyed 600 acres of timber. The
timber is owned by the Tacoma Mill Company.
Tn the vicinity of Buckley the fire is doing considerable damage to logged-off lands. The Government timber reserve in the vicinity of Port
Angeles is on tire, and millions of feet of timber
along the Elwa River is being destroyed.. Efforts
to check the tires are futile. At Albany and
Dalles, Oregon, fires are burning out vast areas,
and reports from Idaho state that similar disastrous fires rage there. Around Seattle there are
at least 20 distinct forest fires raging, and while
a few of them have been put out with much difficulty, many are still burning.
Seattle, Wash.. Sept. 16.—The principal item
of interest from this section is the semi-annual
meeting of the Pacific. Coast Lumber Manufacturers' Association, held in Tacoma on August
26th, with more than 100 mills represented.
Senator   Foster  delivered  a   masterly  address,  in
Logging Operations Commence.
While the price of logs remains at the usual
low water mark, $4.00, loggers are talking about
commencing operations this month, the 15th being
set as the date when a number of large camps
west of the Sound were again to commence operations. Men received notice to show up on that
date, and large amounts of supplies have been
taken up on the steamers to the camps. One of
the Weyerhaeuser camps, on the Columbia River,
in Clarke County, has been closed down, but all
the  other camps  operated  by  that concern  will 8
Fir, Gedar, Spruce
Both Cleai
and Rough
We have a large
Stock on Hand of
E. G. Flooring
1-2 in. Ceiling, Drop Siding, Etc.
Shingles, Lath, Doors
...and Mouldings
We can Load
Mixed Cars
Code Used:    AMERICAN LUMBERMAN TELECODE _ _   ^ _ _^
Hastings Saw   Mill, Vancouver Royal City Saw and Planing: Mills, Vancouver
Moodyville Saw Mill, Burrard Inlet Royal City Saw and Planing: Mills, New Westminster
Chemainus,   B.  C.
| Flooring
| Siding
I Factory Stock
| Ceiling
\ Stepping
Casings \
Dried Cedar and Fir   Mouldings J
Jambs !
Finish |
Dimension Lumber of all Kinds
Fir and Cedar
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E. H. HEAPS & CO.,
Lath, Shingles, Doors, Mouldings, Etc.
Cedar Bevelled Siding, Cedar Door and Sash Stock, cut to size, Cedar Finish, Base, Casing, Newels, Balusters,
Etc.   Douglas Fir Timber up to 85 feet In length.
Cedar Gove Mill, Vancouver, 6. 6.
Ruskin Mill, Ruskin, 6. &
be kept running. The closing of this camp, which
is styled No. I, will mean enforced idleness for
J65 men.
Lumber for Panama.
If the negotiations now carried on between the
Robertson Rafting & Lumber Company, of Port-
iaifd, and the Panama Canal Commission are
brought to a successful termination, hundreds of
millions of feet of logs and piling will he sent
from the Columbia to the Panama Isthmus, to be
used in the construction of the temporary work
ni the canal, the barges, houses and wharves that
will he needed on the scene of the canal work.
The Canal Commission is desirous of buying
40,000 sticks of piling. This order represents not
less than 32,000,000 feet, and it will make four
huge rafts. This is not all. The Canal Commission announces that it will require vast amounts
of lumber of all sizes and grades in order to carry
on the work. In order to facilitate the work of
building the canal, it was suggested that a saw
mill he built near the point of operations, and
that logs shipped from this and adjoining States
be sawed up on the spot. Much time, it is figured,
would thus he saved. Houses will also have to be
built at once to house the laborers.
Oregon Pine in Demand.
Eastern Oregon white pine is gaining a reputation in the East, judging from the heavy orders
coming in. Heavy shipments are being made
these days from Baker City and I.a Grande to
points west of the Mississippi River and to Chicago territory as well. Manager Grant Geddes,
of the Oregon Lumber Company, La Grande,
Oregon, reports that all the lumber camps in
Eastern Oregon are having a larger force employed this season than usual, and Stoddard Bros.,
Shockley and MeMurrcn, Sumpter, are turning
out jo per cent, more lumber than last year.
Large stocks are being laid by for future shipments.
Improvements in   Shingle  Trade.
The Everett and Ballard mills report that the
shingle market is improving, and that the market
is not half bad. A heavy demand for shingles is
made on the manufacturers from the wheat growing sections of Washington and Oregon. This
indicates that the farmers must be ready to build
warehouses and grain elevators. Shingles are
now quoted at $1.40 for stars at the mills, with
80c. added for freight, bringing the cost to the
Eastern buyer up to $2.20.
An order was recently received from the War
Department by the local Quartermaster's Department, designating Seattle as the starting point
for 891,000 ieet of pine and hemlock lumber for
the Philippines. The lumber will be furnished
by Charles Nelson, of San Francisco, wdiose bid
was recently accepted.
The Thurston County Assessor recently attended the Assessors' Convention, and listened to
many interesting addresses about raising assessments on timber lands. His attendance at the
above meeting has brought astonishing results,
and caused frantic protests from the unsuspecting timber owners. The assessor returned a 20
per cent, increase in railroad valuations, but his
action in cruising and placing less than 50 per
cent of the real value per 1.000 on the timber,
raised the total assessed valuation, as returned
by him. with $750,000. The chief objector to this
raise is the Weyerhaeuser Timber Syndicate,
which concern owns 105,000 acres of timber land
in Thurston County. The Weyerhaeuser protest
has been  referred to the County Commissioners.
shipped from Bellingham on barges, and it will
be used partly in street work and partly for new
Canada has thirty-nine pulp mills and several
more are in course of construction. In 1903 the
value of the product was $5,219,000, of which 57
per cent, was exported. The output was considerable, yet when 'the abundance of water power
and raw material is considered it would appear
thai the industry is only in its infancy. Canada
should be able to make pulp and paper to better
advantage than any other country.
A number of British Columbia manufacturers
have withdrawn from the membership of the
Western Retail Lumber Dealers' Association, and
have formed themselves into a company known
as the Manufacturers' Lumber Company, for the
purpose of establishing a system of retail lumber
yards throughout the Territories and Manitboa.
This has been taken by the public press to imply
that "war has been declared" between manufacturer and retailer, but such is not the case. The
purpose of the new company is to directly compete against the inroads of American lumber,
which has been promiscuously scattered through
the Prairie Provinces and handled by_agents of
American companies. Under the present system
it was next to impossible for manufacturers or
dealers to do business under existing conditions.
Bellingham Competing Against Seattle.
Bellingham mills are bidding successfully
against the Seattle lumber manufacturers in the
latters' own field. The Globe Lumber Mill recently
closed an order wjth Contractor F. McLellan, of
Seattle, to furnish him between seven and ten
million   feet   of   timber,       The     lumber   will   be
The Canadian Timber & Sawmills. Ltd., through
its manager, Mr. W. N. Rolfe, is applying for
certain foreshore rights on Trout Lake fronting
its property at Trout Lake City. !.!
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Coast Lumbermen File Strong Arguments re
Freight Matters The C. P. R. Case Very
Weak -Little Doubt About the   Outcome.
The Railway Commissioners held sittings at
Vancouver August 29th to September 1st, and
much important business was discussed. Chief
among this was the complaint of the British Columbia Coast lumbermen of an alleged illegal discrimination against the lumbermen of the Coast.
The Commission consisted of Hon, A. G. Blair
and Dr. Mills, together with a secretary and
stenographer. The lumbermen were represented
by Mr. II. W. 1). Miller, manager of the transportation bureau of the Canadian Manufacturers'
Association, who handled the arguments oi the
C, P. R. without gloves, and metaphorically
speaking, bowled them out. Mr. Miller had an
ably prepared statement to lay before the Commissioners, and the whole question might have
been disposed of in one day had the railway company been ready to state their case. The following is a brief report of the first day'- proceeding-:
Question of Discrimination.
Mr. Miller said there could be no question as
\o the power of the Board to deal with discrimination in rate.-. There was nothing even in the
per cent, clause that would enable railway- to
large excessive rates. The Lumbermen's Asso-
ition on the Coast had, since its creation, met
Ith great difficulties. No dividends, with one
jception, hail been paid, and the mills were not
ining at their full capacity. One of the causes
this was the discrimination in freight rates.
B gave a few instances of this. There was a
perence of 7c. per 100 lbs. charged on lir
iber between the Mountain and Coast mills
Jnd Manitoba and Northwest points, and there-
is a difference as high as t~c. per 100 lbs. on
edar, the latter being at the same time more dif-
Icult to manufacture. Their only market wain Manitoba and the Northwest, where they
fcame into close competition with the lumber
f millers of Minnesota, and probably to some
I extent also with the millers of the Mississippi
Valley. The C. P. R. seemed to be worked on
some agreement with the railway companies in
the United States. They fixed their rates on
cedar lumber on an American basis when, as a
matter of fact, the United States did not -hip any
cedar except when it was manufactured into
shingles. As for the lower rates from Mountain
points, the only reason given for this by the
C. P. R. was that the Mountain milimen were
under difficulties in getting their lumber on the
markets, which was not experienced by the mill-
men on the Coast, and that their timber wa- of
an inferior quality. As one justification the company had urged that they had to haul so many
empty cars over the mountain-. Why did they
not take some steps to remedy this? The farmers
of Alberta would be glad to get rid of their grain,
and if they could establish Hour mills here the
traffic  might be equalized.
Mr. Miller then read several extracts from the
Interstate Commerce report for io",}, and in
answer to a question by Mr. Blair, said that all
the lumbermen asked was that rates on cedar and
fir should be made alike. He also submitted a
table of the rates for cedar and spruce, and also
tables of freight rates from Vancouver and Mountain mills to Manitoba and Northwest points, lie
then drew attention to the peculiarity of rates to
different stations. He handed in also a statement showing the cost of manufacture of cedar
and lir lumber. He said he would also quote selling prices at different points in Manitoba, to
show how impossible it was for these manufacturers to compete there under these freight rates.
He also wished for an even rate for shingles and
lumber haulage, which obtained in the Rainy
River and  Lake of the Woods Districts.
Minimum  Rate for Lumber Products
Another request made was in regard to sashes
and doors when these were used to till m a car
of lumber; he asked for the privilege of shipping
them al the rate of .-.sc. per 100 lbs. This would
make the materials so much cheaper tor the
settlers and the ('. IV R. has always prided itself
on making commodities as cheap as possible for
the homestead settlers in Manitoba and the
"Do you refer to laths at all?" asked  Mr.  Blair.
"No. sir. We are content with that as it stands
on  the low rate at present."
In reply to a question by the Commissioners.
Mr. Miller said that they applied for the right to
ship sashes and doors at the minimum carload
rate when used to till up cars.
Mr. Greer's Statements Not Final
Mr. B. W. Greer said that on the matter of di--
crimination between lir and cedar rates, nothing
he could say would be final, as it was a matter
to be submitted to the freight traffic manager at
Montreal. A few months ago they had discussed
this question and thought they had adjusted a
satisfactory basis of rates. They admitted rough
cedar at the same rate as lir as far as the boundary
oi Manitoba.
Dr. Mills said it seemed surprising to bun that
they had Stopped at Manitoba, which was a most
important centre of settlement. Was it done out
of deference to the American railway companies?
Mr. Greer said they understood that there was
not the -ante demand for this class of lumber in
Manitoba as in  the  Northwest.
Mr. Miller said that Winnipeg especially was
a  most  important  market.
Mr. Blair said it seemed to him that Mr. Greer
had not come prepared to present his case, They
did not want the matter slurred over, and it
seemed they had not come there in a business
way prepared to say "This i- why we did so and
SI 1.
Mr. Greer said they thought the Association
would be there with evidence, and they could
answer  them.
Mr. I'?. P. Davis suggested that the matter stand
over for two days and they would prepare a
C. P. R. Ask for Time.
Mr. Blair thought the C, P. R. should have
dealt with this in a different way. A complaint
had been lodged, and they should have come prepared   to   treat   it   seriously.
Mr. Miller -aid he had come 2,800 mile- to pre
sent this case, and he  wanted  to  get  home  again
as he had plenty of business to attend  to.
Dr. Mills said before they parted he wanted to
know some reason why the ("oast nulls should
be crippled for the sake of the  Mountain null-.
Mr.   Greer   said   that   both   said   that.      If   they
fixed the rates une way, the Coast men said they
were  hurt:  if  the  other,  the   Mountain  men  com
Mr. Blair -aid that when they came together
again he wanted them to -how some intelligible
reason for this differentiation in rate-. The matter
was evidently in such a position now that it could
not   be  dealt   with.
Mr. Greer asked for two days, that they might
get   the  evidence  of  some   ot   (lie   Mountain   men.
Mr. Miller said it seemed to him a- if the C.
P.   R.  were  merely  sparring   for  time.
Mr.  Blair wished to know why the rate of kiln
dried   cedar   was   so   much   higher   to   all   points
than rough cedar or lir.
Poor Excuse Better Than None.
Mr. Greer said it was so much lighter, and when
they were hauling by weight, it did not pay to
carry air. He added that they had to draw their
empty cars to the Coast to haul the lumber, and
had to adjust the minimum rates to cover all
expenses. He thought it would be best to have
these figures handed in to them before taking any
further action. ,
Mr. Blair pointed out that they had many persons there who were prepared to give evidence
on this question, and it should all be considered
before they separated. He had spoken to some of
the   railway  officials   in   the   East  before   coming
here   and   was   told   that   they   were   well   advised
and   would   have   no   Heed   of   the   hid))  id'   Eastern
officials, ,
Mr. Greer said that thi' lumbermen had a D;
of statements here that  they knew  nothing abnui
Mr.   Miller   said   that   they   had   been   asking   fm
these   reductions     from      the   C.    IV   K.   for   son
months   past,   and   had   been   giving   them   all   1
statement-   on   the   subject   they   had.      He   ah
submitted   a   letter   -bowing   that   the   appheati
for   the   reduction   for   sashes   and  doors   has  .1!
been made, in June last.
Mr.   Greer   said   that   the   idea   of   refusing
application   for   filling   up   cars   with   sashes   an!
doors at less than carload rates was to encourai
them t' 1 ship in carl' tad lots.
Mr. Blair said he was much more concerned
with the larger question of the difference between
cedar  and  tir.
Mr. Greer said the rates on rough cedar and | 1
to all points in  the   Northwest   were  the same.
Mr.  Miller pointed out  that  from the  Mountain
nulls   the   same   rate-   applied   throughout    Mani
toba.     lie al-o said that  Manitoba was an important market. Winnipeg especially being most important,
Mr, Greer said the Mountain mills produced
inferior lumber to the Coast null-, and they had
not   the  advantage ot   the export   Hade.
American and  Canadian  Rates.
"And you do not make lower rates beyond the
border ul Manitoba out ot deference to the American railway companies?'' asked Dr.  Mill-.
"I cannot say as to that." replied Mr. Greer.
"Most "i the lumber is .-"Id m the Northwest,
and not much finds its way t" the Manitoba
Mr. Miller pointed out that on February 15th.
the Canadian transportation companies advanced
their rates on commodities in accordance with
American railway-. He showed that the rates
were 5c. per loo lb-, more from American points
to points on the Canadian toast than to points
on the American Coast. On the other hand, the
rate- from Western to Eastern points were just
the same. Some year- ago they published a
schedule of rates from Montreal to the Pacific
Coast on the same basis as from New York to
the American Pacific Coast. This had been done
away with, and he considered that it was owing
to the Canadian customs tariff.
Mr. Greer said that duty was never regarded
as a  factor m basing  the  rates.
Mr. Miller said that nevertheless it was urged
as a justification for raising the rate- that the
duty made it possible for them to -ell at a profit
111 -pite of increased tariff. It seemed .0 lum
strange that the Americans could haul freight SO
much more cheaply from New York to Seattle
than the C, P. I\. could from Montreal to Vancouver, It was m consequence of this that they
had to haul s,> many empty cars across the mountains to take back the lumber. Water competition wa- urged a- a reason for cheaper rate- t"
Seattle ami Tacoma, but Vancouver and Victoria
were as accessible to water as either ot these
Upon the second sitting of the Commission to
consider the lumbermen's complaints there was a
large    attendance of representative    lumbermen,
who stood ready to give evidence if required,
while the C, P. R. had on hand two witnesses,
representatives of the Mountain Association, who
had been impressed by the company with the
view of showing that any alteration in rate- ul
favor of the Coast would be detrimental to the
business of the Mountain manufacturers. the
evidence given by these witnesses rather streng'1
ened the hands of the Coast manufacturers th Ul
otherwi-e. and did little to better the railway
company's contentions. As required, Mr. Grcc'
had prepared a defence to the lumbermen
charges, but he stated that owing to the sh< rt
time allowed, it was not as full and complete
he would have wished. This statement was as
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"(a.) Of the difference in the rate from Coast
points on clear cedar and  fir.
"(b.) Of the preferential rate on these commodities  from   Interior  points over  Coast  points.
Statement  of the  Canadian  Pacific  Railway  Co.
m   rates  on  cedar
tir    trom
Coast points,
"i. Competition—
"When the rates on lumber to Eastern points
were first established some years ago, it was on
the basis of 50c. per 100 lbs. for all kinds of
lumber except fir to points described as Missouri
River common points, which would include Winnipeg. The rate on fir to Missouri River common
points was fixed at 40c. per 100 lbs. because of its
being an inferior grade of lumber, and because
of the competition with pine and other similar
lumber produced in territory contiguous to the
markets, pine and other similar lumber being
capable of being used for the same purposes as fir,
"The cedar lumber being of a higher class did
not meet with the same competition, and it was
not necessary to make the rate lower than 50c.
These rates have been maintained on both sides
of the line ever since. The difference in prices oi
cedar and tir may be seen from the price list of
the British Columbia Lumber & Shingle Manufacturers Association attached hereto.
"2.  Difference in weight—
'Cedar lumber is much lighter than tir lumber,
msequently the earnings of the railway company
a  carload  of  cedar  must  necessarily   be   less
\n its earnings on a carload of fir, the freight
charged at so much per 100 lbs.
tttached hereto is a copy of the price list No.
the   British   Columbia   Lumber   &   Shingle
ifacturers   Association,     which     shows     the
fcctive shipping rates; for instance, the ship-
weight of tir is given as 2,<Soo lbs. per  1,000
pind that of finished cedar as 2,000 lbs.  per
Jeet.   On 1,000 feet of fir at 40c. per 100 lbs.,
Minings are $11.20, as aginst $10 on the cedar
Vtflb rate of 50c, showing a small advantage in
Bttdar rate.
\'A *lBmay be said in answer that the railway com-
IttjPdoes not in a carload of cedar, loaded to full
(jlcity,  carry   the   same   weight   as   in   the   case
RE carload of  fir,  loaded  to full  capacity,  and
'ftOTSequently     could     not     receive   as   large   an
Bunt of earnings on a car of cedar as on a car
.'•tsHfir, but it must be remembered in. this connec-
llbn that the railway hauls the same tare in both
Bases, that is, the weight of the car and the pn>-
Hjortionate  cost   of   hauling   the   extra   weight   in
lithe case of the  fir, is comparatively small.
p"'It is necessary that all cars contain as much
paying  freight   as   possible,  so  as   to  enable   the
company  to  operate   upon   an   economical   basis,
and at a rate as low as conditions require.
"The claim is made by your petitioners that
all the products of a mill should be handled under
the one rate. We could afford to grant the same
rate, provided all the output of the mill was
handled under our regular tenth-class tariff rate,
practically all lumber being classified as tenth-
class. This would give us a rate of #2>:. on all
classes of lumber, laths and shingles, and the
joiners' work rate under the classification would
be sixth-class, or $1.38, as compared with 40c. and
50c. on lumber and shingles, and 60c. on joiners'
work, the rates now in effect, but these commodities are all hauled under special tariffs to meet
special conditions and in constructing these special tariffs we must have in mind the tonnage
which can be loaded, and increase our rates or
our minimums on bulky freight, as compared with
heavier  commodities.
"Realizing the fact that the greater portion of
the traffic we handle is low grade; for instance,
grain., lumber, ore, etc.. as well as transcontinental traffic, and also having in view the increasing water competiton. this company has seen the
necessity of constructing cars of larger capacity,
and where a car of 40.000 lbs. capacity was at one
time rarely seen (the average car being 30,000 lbs.)
we now have cars of 60,000. 80.000 and 100,000 lbs.
capacity, the object being to operate at a minimum cost on low grade traffic, and if we paid no
attention to the bulk of a commodity as compared to the weight, we would find ourselves haul
ing these heavy cars with practically no more
freight than could be loaded m the old ordinary
box, and we maintain therefore that our rates on
lumber, laths, shingles and joiners' work, a- they
at present exist, are a- low a- we can afford t'1
make  them.
"It has been stated that the cost of manufacturing should be considered. The transportation
company should not be expected to equalize by a
reduction in it- freight a disability which one mill
may be laboring under. It should be for the
manufacturer to show that he is manufacturing
as cheaply as his competitors. It one mill
employs the latest machinery to reduce the cost
of manufacturing, it would be unfair for us to
give the other man, who operates <>n an aim
quated system, a lower rate to enable him to com
pete with the man more up to-date.
"We submit to your honorable body of commissioners that we are carrying the traffic now in
dispute at exceptionally low rates, and taking all
the conditions into consideration, the car movement question, the weight as compared to the
bulk, and other reasons given, think that further
reductions are not warranted.
Rates on Rough Cedar.
"Some months ago the Lumber Association
presented to the Canadian Pacific Railway Company application for a reduction in the rate on
rough cedar, on the ground that owing to the
very small percentage of clear cedar which they
got from their logs, it left them with a large surplus of rough cetlar which they were not able to
market, and winch they sold at practically the
same price as fir. I give below figures which
were handed 11- by a member of the Lumber
Association showing the percentages ot tir, clear
cedar and rough cedar, produced at hi- mill,
which it was stated, could be considered a- an
average for all the Coast mill-, the figures given
below being considered a- about f6j 2 per cent.
of the Coast output.
No. Feet. Pet.
Fir     10,000,000 (jo. 0
Clear   cedar         300,000 27
Rough   cedar         700,000 6.4
11,000,000 100.0
"At a meeting held by the association to consider the subject, it was stated by the manufacturers that they could afford to pay a higher rate
on the clear cedar than on the rough, and what
they were anxious to obtain was a reduction in
the rate on rough cedar to the same basis as fir.
"In regard to the question of granting fir rate
on rough cedar to Northwest points and not to
"We have to say that precisely the same conditions exist in United States territory immediately south of us, and the justice of the position
taken by the railway as regard- the difference in
rates on the fir and cedar lumber ha- been fully
recognized by all concerned, the only difference
being that we have been somewhat more liberal
with our Coast mills to some of our Interior territory than the United States lines have been. Any
change in the present basis might be far-reaching
entirely apart from our interests and the whole
basis of rates possibly upset, and we would urge
that no decision be given until very full and
careful investigation of the entire facts governing
the  present  situation  be  made.
"According to the figures given to us, and
which are mentioned above, the full quantity of
clear cedar would be about 2.000.000 feet, and the
rough cedar 4,500,000 feet. Taking the cedar at
two pounds per foot, it represents 6,500 ton-,
which at toe. per 100 lbs., would show approximately an earning on cedar lumber from Coast
points $13,000, and by meeting the request of the
Lumbermen's Association and giving them the
rate on the rough cedar, would mean approximately a reduction in earnings of $9,000. To
offset this the lumbermen claimed that by taking
rough cedar at the fir rate it would increase their
output and enable them to cut more clear cedar,
on which they would be able to pay the toe. over
the fir rate, which would make up for the reduction in earnings on  the rough  cedar.
"After thoroughly considering the matter, and
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Railway Contractors or Lumbermen, no matter what it is.
We ship mixed car lots
Mitts,    Moccasins,   Shoe   Packs,    Larrigans
Pants, Underwear, Chain, Rope, Axes,
Saws, Axe Handles, Pork, Ham,
Bacon, Lard, Butter, Tea.
We are the only House in Canada that
furnishes you complete under one roof
with a view to assisting them t>> market the rough
cedar, without admitting that rough cedar should
take the same rate a- tir, we agreed t'> reduce the
rate on rough cedar to points west of the Mam
loba boundary to 40c, and now the lumbermen
have -eeu in to turn this concession into a case
ot discrimination between rough and clear cedar,
and a- between Northwest Territories and
"At tin- time the question of shingle rate- was
not brought up, and we maintain that the shingles
should pay a higher rate owing to the much
smaller quantty which can lie loaded into cars,
a- compared with the lumber. This lighter weight
1- due 1m the fact that the shingles are kiln dried
tn such an extent for the purpose of saving freight
and an- so light and bulky that they will not load
more than twelve tons in a twenty ton capacity
"During this discussion complaints were being
made to us by settlers throughout the Territories
that they were compelled to pay excessive prices
for lumber. The British Columbia Lumber Association had an arrangement with certain lumber
yards which were members of what is known as
the Retailer-' Association of the Northwest, head
quarter- at Winnipeg, under which they would
not -ell to anyone outside the association. This
had the effect of enabling the retailer- to ask
whatever price they -aw lit, and it was no un
common thing for them to ask a- high a- 40 per
cent, profit. These high prices permitted the
Washington mill- to get into the market, which
resulted in the agitation for lower rate-, and
when we made the cmces-ion on the rough
lumber it wa- on the condition that a reduction
in the price nf lumber should be made for the
benefit of the settlers going into the Territories.
"On the 40c. rate applicable to Winnipeg from
the Coast on fir, a distance of 1,4X4 miles, our
earning- per ton per mile are only 54c, which we
submit t" your honorable body, cannot be con
sidered a remunerative rate, more especially wh1'1
it 1- taken into account the fact that we arc
required to haul empties west to take care of the
traffic, which ha- averaged during the last 18
niniiili- from 500 to Xoo car- per month.
Difference in Rates from Coast and Interior Mills.
"In comparing tin- rate of 40c on tir from the
( oast to Winnipeg, a distance of 1,4X4 miles, and
the rate of 33c, from Kamloops to Winnipeg, a
distance of 1,233 miles, it will be seen that we are
earning the same rate per ton per mile in each
case, 54  cents.
"We   handle  all  kinds  of  lumber   from   the   I'
terior  mills  under  one   rate,  for  the   reason  that
the   Mountain   cedar   is   distinctly   of   a   different
grade   a much smaller percentage of good lumber
obtained  than  at  the  Coast, and  the  best  of it   i
interior  111   grain,  quality  and  color,   and  is  sold
for $5  to $10 per   1,000  less  than   the  Coast  ma
terial. nominally of the same grade.    These State
ments can no doubt be verified if evidence is taker,
from   manufacturers   from   the   Interior.     In   any BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBERMAN
event our rates from the Interior are on a higher
basis than from the Coast.    For example:
"Vancouver to Winnipeg, distance [,484 miles,
rate 40c., equals 50c. per ton per mile; Vancouver to Winnipeg, rate sot-., equals 67c; Golden
to Winnipeg, distance 1,009 miles, rate 33c, equals
65c, or lie. higher from Golden on basis oi 40c.
from the Coast, and 2c. higher from the Coast
on basis of 50c. rale, and as the bulk of the traffic
from the Coast moves under the 40c. rate, there is
;i difference in favor of hauling the business from
the Interior as against the Coast, in the rates
themselves and the saving of 475 miles in the
hauling of empties  west.
"It has been claimed by the Interior millers
that their lumber is of a lower grade than that
produced on the Coast, and that they have
obtained from the logs practically 110 clear cedar.
This is disputed by the Coast mills, and we would
like to suggest that your honorable body take
evidence  on  this point.
•"The complaint is made that the rates on clear
cedar and tir from Interior points are the same,
while at the Coast they are different. If on the
evidence being taken it is found that the contention of the Coast mills on this point is correct,
then the complaint of the 'Coast mills that the
rate on tir and cedar from the Interior points is
the same, while they are different at the Coast,
may be met hy establishing the same relative
differential from the Interior mills as that in
effect  from  the  Coast.
"In regard to the .shingles our rates from Interior mills are 5c. higher than lumber; for instance, where the rate from Kamloops is 33c. on
the lumber the rate on shingles is 38c, the rate
from the Coast being i_'c. higher. The shingles
manufactured in the Interior are narrower, not
as good a color, and bring much less than the
Coast shingles, and in any case, the rates as they
at present exist, as already stated, are on a distinctly higher basis from the .Mountains than they
are from the Coast. We have a complaint from
the Kamloops Lumber Company on this question.
I  quote below their letter of August 8th:
"'Replying to your letter of the 1st inst., re
my protest in connection with rate being increased
on shingle shipments from Annis mill, I have
carefully noted the facts set  forth. -x
"'In March, ioo_>, when considering the erection of a shingle mill, my father and myself saw
Mr. Peters, then general freight agent in Vancouver, and was assured by him that it was highly
improbable that the advantage on the shingle
rate then obtaining at our proposed mill over the
Coast mills, would be disturbed. Relying on this
assurance we proceeded with the erection of our
mill, operated last season and this spring, after
commencing preparations for the summer, we
learned that the rate from the Interior mill had
been raised 5c, whereas the Coast rate was undisturbed. Had we received any notice of the
advance, in time, we would not have run our
mill this season. We knew nothing of the rate
until it had been in operation some months, and
our mill had been working several weeks.
"'Regarding the reduction recently made in
lumber rates, would say that this does not appeal
to us as a reason why the rate on shingles should
be raised. We are not asking for a reduction on
the shingle rate, but merely that it be left the
same as when we started business, and on the
same basis that we were given to understand
would obtain in the future. The rate on shingles
from the Coast has not been altered, and we protest on  that  from our mill being advanced.
"The differential in favor of the Mountain mills
is certainly one that can be justified, and we do
not believe that any reduction of this differential
can be maintained if the matter is brought before
the Railway Commission. Precisely the same
arguments that justify the differential on lumber
would certainly apply to shingles, and we submit
that we are entitled to the differential in force for
live or six years up to this spring.    The cost of
Pacific Coast Pipe Co., Ld.
VANCOUVER,    -    B. C.
P. O Box 563
Manufacturers of
Telephone 1494
Machine Banded
Wire Wound
Wooden Stave
Water Pipe
For City and Town Water Systems, Fire
Protection, Power Plants, Hydraulic Mining, Irrigation, Etc.
III!   Hill!!
manufacture is higher in the Interior. The raw
material is inferior, and the shingle bolts yield
only 4,000 to the cord, as against 6,000 at the
Coast, and the finished cost is some 20c. per 1,000
"'Again, Mountain shingles are selling at some
10c. to 15c. lower than Coast shingles at present;
Engines and Boilers
Ships, Yachts
... and Tugs
We manufact ure
Marine Boilers of all
kinds as well as Horizontal Boilers as shown
in cut.
Our Marine and
Stationary Engines are
decidedly highest grade
and our Ships, Yachts
and Tugs have everywhere given the utmost
We know we can
give you first-class
work and solicit a
chance to quote you.
We are equipped to make
1200 doors per day
With a proportionate amount
of other mill work
We are prepared to make
prompt shipments
Our Steel Roller BearinJ Dry Kiln Trucks Have No Equal i
We have recently added
to our works special
Machines and Tools for
making these Trucks,
[which insures perfect
alignment of wheels and
axles. Axles and Rollers
are made of refined steel.
Made in all sizes of
channels and lengths..
British Columbia
Flooring,      Ceiling,
Ship Lap and
all kinds of
Cedar, Pine, Fir, Spruce and Hemlock Products
I he difference in the published price list being
over 10 cents in favor of the latter.
"'I would state that if you or your representative will look into this matter personally, I am
satisfied that I can satisfy you by visual and
documentary evidence of the justness of our
"'In conclusion, I would say that we have been
forced to take all our men out of the woods, and
have shut down our mill temporarily on account
of our inability to compete, because of the advance of our rate. We will be obliged to do this
permanently if we are not relieved, but our intention is to carry on business if we are allowed to
do so by your company. Regarding the demoralization at present existing in the price of
shingles, I would say that we do not submit this
as a reason for adjustment. Under ordinary
market conditions -we require the former differential to compete with the Coast, and in the case
of any reduction of this, we are shut out of
' 'We trust that your company will at once
arrange that the former rate existing for more
than live years come into effect, hailing a recognition id" what we consider a just and reasonable
request, we would have no other course open but
to submit our contention to the Railway Commission, and taking such other steps as would allow
of our carrying on business with a fair chance
of survival.'
"In summing the whole matter up we believe
that tariffs now existing from the Coast and the
Interior are on an equitable basis.
"If in the opinion of the Board the present
reply does not fully meet the complaints of the
Shingle Manufacturers' Association, I would respectfully request the Board to permit a further
statement to be tiled, as through some misunderstanding 1 have not had time to procure all the
data and particulars surrounding the case."
American   Competition.
Mr. Greer stated that if the 40c. rate asked for
into Manitoba were adopted by the C.  P. R.. the
American railroads running from the State of
Washington into Manitoba would adopt the same
rate on clear cedar, and the American mills would
be able to land clear cedar in the Manitoba
market in competition with local lumber. In
addition to the competition from the State of
Washington, there is to be considered the competition of the Interior British Columbia mills with
the  local   Coast   mills.
Argument   With   Retailers.
It was mentioned by Mr. Greer that the local
mills, members of the British Columbia Lumber
& Shingle Manufacturers' Association, had an
agreement with the Northwest Retailers' Association regarding the sale of lumber in the Northwest. The agreement was in effect that no mill
here would sell to any person not a member of
the Retailers' Association. This agreement had
a bearing on the price of lumber in the Northwest. Some time ago the C. P. R. had been
forced to step in and prevent the settlers on the
prairies being forced to buy lumber at abnormally high rates. This question of agreement was
commented upon by the Commissioners, and
Commissioner Mills asked if it was not a case of
the middlemen having formerly been allowed to
fleece  the  consumer in  the  West.
Transcontinental Rates.
At this point Commissioner Mills asked Mr.
Greer regarding the alleged differential in transcontinental rates from Montreal to Vancouver
via the C. 1'. R. as compared with the rates over
American roads from New York to Vancouver.
This differential is 5c. in favor of the American
roads, and it was asserted before the commission
on Monday last that as a result the C. P. R.
trade from Montreal to Vancouver is crippled,
and that is the real reason why the C. P. R. has
to haul so many empty cars west to meet the
demand for transportation eastward from the
Mr. Greer—That differential does not result in
the loss  of  any trade  westward  by  the  C.  P.   R.
Commissioner Mills—You admit then that the
rates from Montreal to Vancouver over the C. P.
R, are higher than those from New York to Vancouver over  American  roads?
Mr. Greer—Our tariffs show that such is the
Commissioner Mills -You rely then on the duty
to shut out competition?
Mr. Greer -No, sir. We do not rely on the
duty or take it into consideration. We have not
the water competition to deal with that the
American roads from New York have. The
American roads cannot get a higher rate than
they charge on account of the water competition.
(Competition via Cape Horn to the coast.) Another factor to be considered is that sometimes
the American manufacturer sells lower in Canada
than he does in his own market because he is
overstocked, and his cut in price is sufficient to
absorb the duty on goods entering Canada.
Mr. (ireer stated that with respect to the question of transcontinental freight rates, he had received no notice of the complaint before Monday
last, and he hoped that he would not be called
upon to put in a defense at this time. He could
prepare it and send it to the commission at Ottawa later on. This being agreeable to the board,
the matter dropped, and the inquiry once more
turned to the main question at issue.
Mountain Millman.
The next witness was Mr. Frederick W. Jones,
lumber manufacturer of Golden. He stated that
he represented the Mountain lumber manufacturers. Mr. Jones is Vice-President of the Mountain Manufacturers' Association. Witness stated
that the Mountain milimen had received no notice
that the coast milimen were complaining about
the rates accorded the Interior mills by the C. P.
R. There are in the Mountain Association between thirty-six and forty mills—practically all
such institutions in the mountains. To show the
importance of the Mountain mills to the Commissioners, Mr. Jones stated that the output of
the mills in the mountains this season for the
Manitoba market was 250,000,000 feet of lumber,
or about two and a half times as much lumber as
the Coast mills market in Manitoba. The interests of the Mountain mills are so large that they
deserved the consideration of the Commissioners
in connection with the matter of rates.
The Mountain mills lie at an average of nine
hundred miles from Winnipeg, and pay 33c.
freight charges on lumber to Manitoba points.
Vancouver lies 1,484 miles from Winnipeg, and
the Coast mills pay 50c. on clear cedar to Manitoba points. If the rates were properly proportioned on the basis of the 50c. charge from the
Coast, the Mountain mills would be paying about
27c. instead of 33c, that is, if the Mountain mills
were getting a rate proportionate to that charged
the Coast, haul being considered, they would now
be paying from 27c. to 30c. on the 50c. basis, and
from 25c. to 27c. on the 40c. basis. Mr. Jones did
not wish it to go on record that the Mountain
milimen favored discrimination as against the
Coast mills.
If the rate from the Coast is altered and lowered, there should occur a corresponding reduction in the rate from the Mountain mills. The
haul from the Mountain mills to Manitoba is
downhill and cheaper for the railway company
than the uphill haul across the mountains from
this coast.
Have Troubles Too.
The mountain mills have troubles to contend
with as well as the coast mills, according to Mr.
Jones. The interior mills are isolated from the
base of supplies and labor, and consequently the
cost of production there is higher than it is on
the coast. It was Mr. Jones' contention that no
person or persons had the right to interfere with
the advantage Providence had placed the mountain mills in with respect to the Northwest trade.
He said that they were nearer the market than
the coast mills, and because of that fact they
thought they were in a better position to compete
for the Northwest trade than the Coast mills were.
The quality of the timber produced in the
mountains is inferior to that got out on the coast.
In his own business, which comprises four mills,
cedar i.s cut at one.    Last year he cut 805,422 feet
of cedar, and out of that amount but 8,738 feet,
hoard measure, was clear cedar. The rest was
common cedar, which was inferior to the common
cedar of the coast. The consumer states that
the mountain cedar is vastly inferior to that of
the coast and refuses to pay as high a price for it.
Mr. Jones stated that last year in his mills out
of a total output of 23^45,000 feet of lumber be
got but 6J/2 per cent, of No. 3 lumber and better.
No. 3 i.s really common lumber, although finished
to a certain extent, lie did not get 2 per cent, of
No. 1 grade. The same inferiority applies to interior shingles as compared with those of the
coast. Mr. Jones said that his total output of
lumber was a fair average in quality of all produced in the mountains. The price of mountain
shingles is ten cents per thousand less than that
of coast shingles. The mountain shingles arc
very narrow and their color is poorer. They are
also streaky.
Honorary Members.
In response to a question put by Commissioner
Mills,  Mr.  Jones  replied  that  practically  all   the
members of the Mountain Lumber Manufacturers'
Association were honorary members of the Western Retail Lumber Dealers' Association. The
effect of this honorary membership is that the
retailer in the Northwest and Manitoba only buys
from honorary members and the latter will only
sell to members of the association of which they
are honorary members.
Commissioner Mills—The farmer cannot order
a carload of lumber from the milimen?
Chairman Blair—He can order it, but he won't
get it.
Mr. Jones—The farmer cannot get it, but not
because of the agreement, but rather because it is
not the practice of the milimen to sell to the
consumer direct.
Chairman Blair—What if he sent the cash with
the order?
Mr. Jones—We should be reluctantly compelled
to send it back.
Had Been Victimized.
The witness then went on to explain that in
past years the milimen in British Columbia bad
been victimized to no small extent through selling to irresponsible persons in the Northwest,
and for their own protection they had been compelled to resort to some means of insuring their
output falling into the hands of honest men—men
from whom payment was certain.
Commissioner Mills—But the result was that
the consumer was squeezed so that the C. P. R.
had to step in to protect him.
Mr. Jones replied that he had only heard of
isolated cases of retailers squeezing the consumer.
He had heard of one case on the Prince Albert
branch of the railway. He supposed that the retailer bad secured a corner and had the consumer
where he wanted him, and being human, had pursued his advantage tn a finish. He thought that
the railway company had subsequently satisfied
itself that there was no general cause of complaint.
A regulation of the Retailers' Association required that none of its members add more than
20 per cent, to the purchase cost from the manufacturer. That regulation protected the consumer
against extortion.
Commissioner Mills—But there is nothing to
prevent the mills making concessions in price to
the retailer, say of $2 or $3?
Mr. Jones—The mills could do so, but no such
advantage is ever given. The C. P. R. protects
the settlers by publishing in its railroad stations
the fixed price of lumber to the consumer. The
last price list was fixed in April.
Chairman Rlair—Is there any fixed price to the
Cutting of Prices.
Mr. Jones—There is a fixed manufacturers*
price. The last price list was fixed in April. The
figures then quoted have been cut $1 per thousand
feet. In our own business in order to get trade
we have had to cut the price $1 per thousand
feet. 16
Commissioner Mills But the retailers do not
lower their prices, and they get the benefit of any
reduction   made   by   the  mills
Mr. Jones    There is some competition among
the  retailers.
Commissioner Mills What! Are they allowed
to  undersell  one  another?
Mr. Jones    They do it to my certain knowledge.
John Shields' Complaint.
Mr. Jones' place was then taken by Mr. John
Shields, lumberman of Kamloops the same
gentleman who had written to Mr, Greer complaining of the advance made on the freight
charges on slhingles,
Mr. Shields stated that he represented the
Annis, Kamloops and Enderby mills, He stated
that generally he could say nothing more than
his predecessor in the box, However, he complained against the action of the C. P. R, in raising his rate on shingles five cents. This action
had the result of closing up his mill at Annis.
The increase had added about eighty cents per
thousand to the cost of transportation, and had
frozen him out of the shingle trade from Annis.
Put Out of Business.
When  the   Annis mill  had  been   started  he  had
red  a  rate  of 33c,  per  thousand  on   shingles,
arently at the instance of the coast mills an
tional   5c.   per   thousand   had   been   charged
nst him.     He could not sell mountain shingles
:ompetition   with   those   from   the   coast   on
unit   of   the   inferior   quality   of   the   former.
itions  in  regard  to quality  were  such  that
coast   mills   could   better   afford   to   pay   50c.
he  could  33c.     Mr.  Shields  also  referred   to
Isolated   position   of   the   interior   mills,   and
greater cost of production as compared with
Coast.   The percentage of clear lumber to the
ntain  milimen  is  never  more   than   live,   and
ost of manufacture is far greater.    He stated
the rough  cedar of the coast is better  than
ame article in the Interior. The Coast lumber
tter in all qualities and grades,
mmissioner Mills—They maintain that in the
r grades yours is better.
r. Shields-—] don't think so.    We have a great
ny  more   knots  and   scrub.    Their  knots   may
rger, but we have more .small knots.
Question of Oaths.
r. W.ll.I).  Miller, counsel for the lumbermen,
took   the   stand  and   said  he   did  not   think
h could be added to what Mr. Greer had said
the C.  P.  R.    Mr. Miller said that Mr. Greer
said that conditions in the United States were
h   the   same   as   those   in   Canada.    This   was
so—at  least   Mr.   Beckman,  Secretary  of  the
ber Association in the State of Washington,
had told him that it was not so.
Mr.   E.   P.   Davis—Are   the   statements   of   Mr.
Beckman,  who is not on oath, or of  Mr.   Miller,
who is not on oath, of any use to the commission?
Chairman   Blair  could  not  see  that  they  were.
Mr.  Miller then  asked the commissioners  if he
could not file a statement made by  Mr.   Beckman
before    a    justice    of    the    peace    in    the    State
of Washington.
Mr.  Davis objected to any such procedure.
Hon.  Mr.  Blair said that of course such a proceeding would not be usual.    The orthodox manner in which to influence the commissioners would
be to put in evidence subject to cross-examination.
He suggested  that  perhaps  Mr.   Beckman might
be examined later  in  this city  in  the presence of
both interested parties.
Mr. Miller stated that Mr. Beckman had been
in the city on Monday, but had since left. Had
the case not been postponed at the request of the
C. P. R.. Mr. Beckman could have given his evidence. Mr. Miller then asked if he could make
a statement which could be thrown out at the
commissioners' pleasure, but he did not press the
Fair Tariff Charges.
Mr. Miller then stated that the rates on lumber
were made originally from the coast and any
changes made in favor of the mountain mills had
been made on the Coast basis rale. He said railways were common carriers, and were under the
necessity of considering transportation require
ments, and not community interests, when mak
ing up tariffs,    If forty cents per hundred pounds
were a fair rate of charge for transportation from
the coast t" Manitoba, the same rate was equally
fair for cedar. He claimed that the competition
111 Manitoba and the Territories was the same
with respect to cedar as to tir. In the east the
special lumber rates apply to shingles as well as
to lumber The rate is the same for pine as for
shingles, and pine will load heavier than shingles.
He  informed  the  commissioners  that   the   tariff
records  would  show   such  to  be  the case.
Calls Railroad Unfair.
The counsel for the lumbermen went on to state
that Mr. Greer had said that light freight received
a higher rate on account of its bulk. Mr. Miller
contended that the rate charged must not be in
excess of what the traffic would bear. He then
discussed the matter of minimum carload lots,
and advanced the claim that it was not fair of the
C. P. R. to increase the size of its cars. By increasing the minimum of its cars the C. P. R.
put it outside the power ol small consumers to
take advantage of carload rates. Small com
munities where consumption ot commodities is
small should not be deprived of the advantages
oi carload lot rates simply because the C. P. R.
desired to increase its minimum for the accom
modation  of its gram carrying  trade.
Mr. Miller had said that while the C. P. R. had
pulled the mountain nulls into the discussion, it
had not given any explanation ot the charge that
the difference m rates was by agreement with
the American lines. He alleged thai the difference was due to this agreement and not to any
love of the C, P. R. for the mountain lumber mill-
To show that the conditions for the manufacture of lumber were difficult on the coast. Mr.
Miller called Mr. R. II. Alexander, local manager
of the British Columbia Mills. Timber 6k Trailing
Company, to the stand.
Confession of Loss.
Mr.   Alexander  went  into  the  witness  box   and
read   the   following   statement    to    the    commis
"This is to certify that we, the British Columbia Mills, Timber & Trading Company, have been
obliged to reduce stock by selling in Winnipeg
2<So,ooo feet of dimension cedar at $1750 per
thousand feet, with freight at 30c. per hundred
pounds, as required by the C. P. R. Co. This will
leave us about S5.50 per thousand. The logs cost
this company $0.75 per thousand,
(Signed)        "R.  H. Alexander,
"Local Manager B, C. M. T. & T. Co."
Mr. Alexander said that apart from manufacture his company were selling this cellar at less
than  the cost of the logs.
Commissioner Mills Does that statement apply
to ordinary occasions"
Mr. Alexander I think it does at present. The
market  is demoralized.
Commissioner Mills What wis the price last
Mr. Alexander The price last year was $ji or
Must Protect Railroads.
Chairman Blair It would not be reasonable to
ask a railway to reduce rates simply because a
market was demoralized.
Mr. Alexander I do not think 11 is desired to
make a comparison of rates, quality, etc.. between
the coast and mountain mills. I think that question was improperly raised by Mr. (ireer in his
remarks. We are not complaining of the railway
company's rates or of the comparative rales as
between the Coast and Mountain mills. My ideas
are different from those of Mr. Miller, although
in the end they come to the same thing. We do
not ask a reduction in rates on account of a bad
market, we can't hold the railway responsible for
Chairman Blair—What then was your purpose
in putting in that memorandum?
Mr. Alexander -What we complain of i^ a difference   in   the   classification   of   certain   articles.
We wish to know' on  what  principle all classes
of lumber are carried as far as Langevin mi mi.
llat rate, and having passed that point, why t|,,
railway company should increase the rate fron
half a cent up to 10c. on clear cedar and shingle-
while lir and common cedar are carried without
the increase, Why this increase from Lailgevii
to the confines of Manitoba"
Chairman   Blair     Now you  are coming to son
kind  of an  argument.
Want an Explanation.
Mr.   Mexander    We, want an explanation of t!
anomaly     When   Manitoba   is   reached   the   san
thing occurs only 111 a worse degree.    There cv<\,,-
is   al-o   charged   a   higher   rate,   namely.   10c.   pei
hundred pounds.
Chairman Blair We have had all the explana
tions   Mr.  (ireer  is  able  to  give  us mi  that  point
Mr. Alexander A short tune ago the American
lines altered their 40c. rate to include spruce an.!
hemlock as well as fir, and the same concession
was immediately accorded lis by the C, I'. R. The
price ot cellar was. however, still maintained it
50c. There are places in the Territories on branch
lines where this extra inc. is exacted. Then again
east of Winnipeg the same tlat rate applies <<\\ all
lumber,  cedar  and  all.
Competition Not Feared.
Discussing  the  statement  ot   Mr.  (ireer  that  the
coast   niilL  feared   the  competition  of  the   Wash,
ington   State   nulls   in   Manitoba,   Mr.   Alexander
stated   that   the   coast   nulls   did   not   fear   ail)   ill
effects from that source, for the reason that the
American mills did not ship cedar to Manitoba,
and therefore even if the American railways g.i\'-
a 40c, rate on cedar int.. Manitoba there would
be no competition. We wish cedar and shingles
placed on the same basis a- all other lumber,
Mr.   Davis—Do   I   understand  you  to say that
you  do not complain  that   the  coast  nulls are ills
criminated against in favor of the mountain mills?
Mr. Alexander We complain of a discrimina
lion m classification,
Mr. J. G. Scott, who said he had been in the
lumber business for thirteen years, was the next
witness. His testimony related to the difference
111 the cost of manufacture of cedar and tir lumber, He said thai mi account of waste and defects 111 timber the cost of manufacturing cedar
was 50 per cent, greater than the cost of manufacturing lir.
Case  Made  Out.
Mr. Miller again addressed tin- commissioners,
and stated that in his opinion he had succeeded in
making out a case of discrimination against the
C. P. R, 111 putting a higher rate on the product
of cedar logs than on the product of lir l"gs
With regard to shingles, he stated that from Vancouver to points in Assiniboia and Alberta the
rates on shingles and lumber were equal. Further
east the rates on shingles commenced to increase.
Prom Winnipeg to port William the rates were
equal again, while east of port William discrimination  again   existed.
Mr. Davis It seems to me that Mr. Miller
should have put in all his evidence before he
closed his case and before we had put m ours,
though, of course, the commissioners have the
right   to  hear  all  evidence.
Chairman Blair Such is the usual course, hut
if anything occurs to warrant it you may recall
any ol your witnesses.
Mr. Heaps' Testimony.
Mr.  E,  II.   Heaps, lumber and shingle manufacturer, then took the stand at  Mr. Miller's instance,
He  said that   the  reason  he  claimed  shingles ami
lumber should take the same rate is that the products are identical.  Mr   Heaps produced a shingle
and a small lir board for the purpose of compari
son.     He said that the product of a thousand feet
of  log  turned  into  shingles   would  be   no greate
than   the   product   of   the   same   amount   of
turned into lumber,     lie said the C.  P. R. claimed
that  it  got  more  weight   from  a  carload  "I   lum"
ber than from a carload of shingles.    They mm
get   10,000 lbs.  more  weight  in  a  ear of ltiml
than in a ear of shingles in a 40,000-lb. ear.     1 '■'•'
C.   P.   R.  grants   spruce   the   same   rate   as  tir. BRITISH COLUMBIA LUMBERMAN
though spruce weighs about the same as cedar,
which is not granted the same rate as fir. Mr.
Heaps stated that there would be no difference
in profit to the manufacturer on shingles and
lumber provided the railway rates were the same
m each case. We ask why, if the railway company can carry lumber and shingles to Calgary
at the same rate, they cannot carry both further
at the same rate, especially when the railway company claims that the greatest cost of haul is on
the mountain end.
With respect to the question of being allowed
to mix carload lots of lumber, Mr. Heaps stated
that the manufacturers wished to be allowed to
mix cars at the lumber rate on carload lots. He
regards the less than carload lot rates as too
high, as he cannot sell sashes and doors to small
consumers in carload lots always.
Prairie Competition.
Mr. Greer—The reason manufacturers here cannot sell sashes and doors in carload lots in the
Northwest is, perhaps, because there are factories
for the manufacture of sashes and doors at Calgary and Brandon. If we let less than carload
lots of sashes and doors go through at carload-lot
rates, we should have vigorous complaints from
the  manufacturers  in   Calgary  and   Brandon.
Mr. Miller then announced that the case for
the lumbermen had been concluded, but Mr. F. P.
Davis had a word to say to the commissioners
on a point of law.
Limitation of Power.
Mr. Davis said there was a point of law in connection with the matter of rates which he wished
to call to the attention of the board. In this connection he  mentioned  the  following:
Section 20 of the Act of 18X1  (C. P. R. Charter).
Section  17,  Railway  Act,  1879, sub-section  ii.
Section  5,  Railway  Act,  1903.
Sections 252 to 254, Railway Act of 1903.
Mr. Davis stated that the point of law he referred to was the limitation of the power of the
commissioners to reduce the rates of the C. P. R.
so long as the company is not earning 10 per
cent, of its invested capital. He said he did not
wish to raise this point in connection with any
allegations as to discrimination, but only with regard to any other argument against existing rates.
Such a question as that referring to shingles was
not one of discrimination, and Mr. Davis submitted that it did not come within the power of
the board. The rate on fir and cedar was also
not one  of discrimination.
The Board of Commissioners is limited to direct
that discrimination be wiped out, but the method
of removing the discrimination, Mr. Davis submitted, must be left to the railway company affected. This closed one of the most important
and hard fought cases before the commission.
Mountain Lumbermen's  Complaint.
At the meeting of the Commissioners at Revelstoke, some days later than the sitting at Vancouver, the Mountain Lumber Association had
an audience relative to freight rates upon shingles
and   lumber   but   from   the   reports   at   hand   we
are of the opinion that there has been some
misrepresentation by the C. P. R. regarding the
demands of the Coast lumberman. In justice to
whom it is well to state here that the latter do
not ask for or expect the same rate as is already
given to the Mountain milimen, but that a tlat
rate of 40c. upon all products of lumber in and
to Territorial and Manitoba points, which if the
Commission so decides the mountain men are welcome to whatever concession they can obtain,based
upon distance from the market, provided the fiat
rate of 40c. is granted to coast manufacturers.
There is no question as to disagreement between
coast and mountain milimen, the relations being
of a most harmonious character, the contentions
of the C. P. R. notwithstanding. The following
report is taken from the Kootenay Mail of Revelstoke:
A Shingle Loose.
John Shields, jr., waited on the commissioners
to protest against the rate on mountain shingles
having been increased 5c. per 100 lbs., which was
equivalent to a rise of 10c. per 1,000 shingles, and
made all the difference between profit and loss
to them. Mr. Greer told him the increase had
been made on the representation of the coast
shingle manufacturers, who had said the interior
shingles were as good as theirs and the interior
shingle men were in a position to make more
money. His firm had now closed their mill
because, although it was fitted with the most improved machinery, they were unable to make it
pay. If the railway was to be allowed to raise
rates as they have done in this instance they
could put anybody out of business.
F. W. Jones corroborated Mr. Shields' remarks,
that interior shingles were not so good as coast,
owing to the quality of the cedar, and were worth
at least 20c. a thousand less.
Dr. Mills—Are the natural conditions in the
interior such as to justify the manufacture of
Mr. Jones—Yes.
Freight on Lumber.
Mr. Jones, Vice-Pres. of the Mountain Lumbermen's Association, said he should like to refer
to the demand of coast lumbermen, that they
should have the same freight rate as the mountain mills. It was unreasonable to ask that, as
the local mills had only an average of 100 miles
of mountain haul against 900 miles on the prairie,
whereas the coast lumber had to be hauled over
400 miles of mountain track as well as the same
prairie haul. He wished to call evidence to show
that mountain mills had much less cedar in their
logs than coast mills and were handicapped to
this extent.    He called:
J. G. Billings, of the Yale-Columbia Lumber
Company, who said, during the first six months
of the year they shipped 13,000,000 feet of cedar,
of which only about one and a half per cent, was
clear. Their rough was not of better grade than
coast rough.
T. Ludgate, of the Big Bend Lumber Company,
said they cut almost all cedar. They cut between
six and seven million feet, and did not have more
than five per cent, clear. That was much less than
the coast. He had been milling on Puget Sound
where they got 20 to 25 per cent, clear cedar.
Important Statement.
Mr. Jones said with regard to the charge of
their being combined with the Northwest Lumber Dealers Association,the members of the Mountain Lumbermen's Association had decided to
withdraw in a body from that association. They
were now at liberty to sell to any dealer who
had the money to pay for his lumber.
Mr. Greer said the reason for the variation in
the freight of shingles was the extra space occupied and lighter weight than lumber, and certain
reductions has been made.
Mr. Shields—The weight of a car of shingles
is 34,000 pounds, and lumber 37,000 to 40,000
pounds. The reductions are no use to the shingle
mills as they don't ship to the points to which
reductions have been made. This increase of
freight represents a difference of $3,000 a year to
us which is the difference between loss and profit.
Mr. J. M. Ferguson, of Fremantle, Australia,
head of the big lumber firm of J. M. Ferguson,
Ltd., is a visitor to the Northern Pacific Coast
on a tour of observation, and paid Vancouver a
"1 am greatly impressed with the modern
methods of the lumber industry prevailing here,"
Mr. Ferguson said to a reporter. "Since we are
about to establish another saw mill to engage in
the export trade, I came over here to see how
things were conducted in this land of big timbers.
In West Australia we still use horses and bullocks to draw timber out of the woods, and I
think I can make a big improvement by the introduction of donkey engines. There are other
points, too, which 1 have taken note of, and
which I will adopt.
"The timber in West Australia principally in
use as lumber is the jarrah and karri, both hard
woods, and so heavy that they will sink. You
can see of what great advantage donkey engines
will be in hauling these heavy timbers out. At
present we do not do an export trade, confining
ourselves to supplying the demand of Fremantle
and surrounding district. There is lots of timber
in the district about, and as the trees average
from three feet six inches to four feet in diameter,
they contain considerable lumber. They do not,
however, grow as tall as your firs.
"I was speaking to a representative of an importing firm, and will send him some samples of
our timber. It is difficult, though, to trade with
British Columbia, in competition with New South
Wales, as that State has direct steamer communication with Vancouver, and we are 2,000
miles away from New South Wales.
"We import timber from mills here, and in the
days of the Moodyville saw mill, had consignments from it. We cannot use your lumber for
building purposes close to the ground, as it makes
too favorite a food for the white ants."
STEEL, AND   OPEN 36   TO   54 IN. FROM 8AW.
Double Edger, Steam  Feeds,  Log Jacks,   Live  Rolls,
Trimmers, Slab Slashers, Steam Niggers.
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Sayward &  Company, of Victoria, arc  making
regular shipmcivts to the prairies, and report busi
ness  steadily  improving.
The Albion Iron Works Company, Ltd., of Vic
toria,  uric calling  for tenders for  the purchase
of the   Iron  Works and  Stove  Factory, together
nr separately, bnl  we are m>t  aware ol  any sale
ha\ 11114  been  made.
The Cranbrook Sash and Door Factory, liavi
secured several timber hunts in the vicinity
kimberley, S. K, Kootenay, and also a mill -
from the North Star Mining Company, arc n
making preparations for the removal of their n
from Cranbrook to Kimberley.
Manager Lund, of the Crows Nest  Pass Lum
ber  Company,  has  been  making  a  business  trip
through the  Northwest,
The Porto Rico Lumber Company, of Yum
and Nelson, has opened up a new camp at Porto
Rico siding and are also erecting another dam
on the river to be used in Hooding and bringing
the logs to their null at Ymir.
J. M. Agnew, manager of the North Star Lumber Company of Cranbrook, has been making a
trip  through  the  Northwest.
The ship Olivebank is loading lumber at  Chemainus for Cape Town, and the schooner W,   11
Talbot is clue to arrive there to load for Sydney,
X.  S.  W.
It is reported that there is a strong likrliliM.nl
of the erection of a large mill at or near Nanaimo
h_\ the B. C. Logging & Lumber Co., an American company which was debarred from shipping
logs to the Sound by recent legislation.
The noted mining town of Poplar is establishing itself in the sawmill business, having this
month shipped a quantity of lumber to Kaslo for
use by the corporation ol that city.
Operations arc being diligently prosecuted by
the Otis Staples Lumber Company on Perry
Creek, S. E. Kootenay, and a large machine shop
has been titted up, which is fully equipped for
any kind of work that may be required.
I'he   Arrowhead   Lumber   Company,    Ltd.,    oi
rowhead,   has   placed   another   block   of   s>tock
m the market, and report has it that there is
difficultly m disposing of it.
\ large gang of loggers have gone to work on
teh   Creek  in   Last   Kootenay   to   get   out   ties
Capt.  Anderson  of Golden,  who has  a  con-
act from the C. P. R. to take all the ties he can
Logging  operations  have  commenced   on   Sal
mon    Creek    near    Beaton,    Arrow     Lake,    and
Messrs. Burr and Bush intend to remove obstruc
tions from the river so as to enable them to use
the creek  for driving their logs to  Arrow   Lake.
Anticipating a steady winter's run, the Kam
loops Lumber Company, of Enderby, is installing
an electric light plant at its null, and will run
day ami night shifts, The present force oi 25
men will be doubled, and the mil! run to in capacity.
I'. M, McKai lane, nf Revelstoke, has gone
Vrrowhead where he lias taken a contract to t.
.nit a large quantity ol logs for the Arrowh
Cumber Company, lie has a gang of forty n
and, as he is an experienced man in the b
ness, lus output will be a large one.
Mr.  Job   Bowyer's  new   mill  on   Silver  Cr<   ,,
near Whamock, which he has been eredting A
ing   the   laM   lew   months,   is   now   running
-whil;,  a  large  number  ol   ties  having  been  .   i
during   the   last   two   weeks.    The   sawn   ties  an
conveyed from the mill to the railroad by im
i'i' a flume.
There is a proposition on  foot  to erect a I
null at Slocan City by the Ontario-Slocan Lumber
t'.i..   I.id.   Mr.   Thomas   Chew,   vice-president    ii
tin    company,   a   lumberman   ol   many   years   ex
perience,  is   satisfied   thai   it   he   can   so  persuade
his co directors, such a mill would be a verj ; ■
1.table  ..lie.
The new sawmill erected by Messrs, Lemon &
Gonnason, at Victoria, adjoining their planing
milL. was started the end oi last month and
w i irked well, The mill has a capacity of 20,000
feet "i lumber per day, ami will be worked tn its
full capacity. The null is advanitageouslj situated .hi   Rock   Bay.
■A  spur has been built by  the C.  P.  R.  from  its
in line in the S. & < ). branch to the Kamloops
niber    Company's    mill    at    Enderby,    which
atly facilitates the work of rail shipments by
mill company,
There is a proposition on foot by the Empire
Lumber Company, Ltd., of Revelstoke, to erect
a large mill near its timber holdings at Lear
Creek, near Comaplix, ami subject to the ratification by the shareholders, preliminary work will
be commenced at ..nee.
Moyie has had a visit from Messrs. Donald
Grant "i Eairbault, Minn., and I' 1. Kimberlej
of Sharon, Penn., two heavy shareholders in the
Moyie   Lumber  Company,     1 hey   are  well  sac,
tied with the company's progress but  would like
Rough and Dressed Lumber
Mill, South End Cambie St. Bridge
r. 0. Box 173
Good Material Reasonable
Prices Prompt Service
W. J. SHEPPARD, Waubaushene, Ont., President
J. G. SCOTT, Vancouver, B. C, General Manager
Pacific Coast Lumber Company,
Fir, Cedar and Spruce Lumber, Lath, Houldings, Turned Work, Etc.
CAPACITY    Saw  Mill, 150,000 feet per 10 hours;   Lath Mill, 25,000 per 10 hours ; Shingle Mill, 300,000 per 10 hours ;  with
ample Planing Mill and Dry Kiln Capacity to Handle our output.
Manzel Sight Feed
Automatic Oil Pumps
Silent Ball Clutch Motion, equally sensitive at high or low speed. Equally effective at high or low pressures. Saves Oil
because it does not waste it. Made Single,
Double, Triple and Quadruple	
Bayfield 0 Archibald,
Molsons Bank Building Vancouver, B. C.
IMPERIAL, their highest grade, guaranteed
No equal for heavy machinery.
Lumber Dry Kiln Equipments.
Shop and Kiln
Trucks and Cars.
Shavings Exhaust Systems,
Fans, Blowers, Etc.   .... lili
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to have seen the lumber business in that section
more prosperous than it is at present.
According to the Fernie Free Press it is reported that Senator McLaren has entered suit
against the C. P. R, for $125,000 damages caused
hy tbe forest lires of the past few months, His
extensive timber limits east of Crows Nest are
practically ruined. It is alleged that the lires
were started by sparks from C. P, R. locomotives.
C. D. Warren, chief of police, Fernie, says that
the forest tires ill East Kootenay have done more
damage than most people imagine, The limits
of the Fernie Lumber Company and those of the
Elk Lumber Company are probably the most
damaged, though those of the McRae Lumber
Company, at Hosmer, have also been considerably  depleted.
A settlement has been arrived at between
Wardope Bros., of the Sparwood Sawmill at
Sparwood, and the Crows Nest Pass Coal Company in connection with a fire loss to the property
of the former company which was claimed to have
^originated from sparks of a locomotive belonging to the coal company. The loss was estimat-
a at about $1^,000.
A sale by Timber Inspector Martin of Nelson
is advertised to have taken place on the l6th
\t. of the property of the Canadian Timber &
/mill Company, Ltd., at Trout Lake City to
ify a debt due the Government of some $1,400,
[e other actions were pending to satisfy other
jtors involving a sum of about $0,000, but we
)leased to report that satisfactory arrange-
have been completed and the sale and
is withdrawn.
Kamloops     Lumber   Company   is   rapidly
Mng a  regular  shipper  of  its  product.     Six
Is left the company's mill at Enderby some
|go for the  Northwest.    When the stock of
is  in  condition   to  ship  the  company  ex-
pto send out from live to six carloads a day.
Kamloops  Lumber Company is installing
\{ the largest edgers made in  Canada  in  the
Rrby   mill   this   week.       This   will   bring   the
?8 finishing machinery up to its sawing capa-
There seems to be no abatement to the enquiry
timber limits throughout  the   East  Kootenay
Action of the   Province,  and  available limits  are
ready demand.    One of those who has profited
from  the   present   conditions   is   Mr.   C.   J   Cahill
of Moyie,  who some years ago  succeeded  in  securing   several   large   tracts   in   that   section   and
he has now "unloaded" his holdings there to good
advantage.    It is stated that the line of the Grand
Trunk is his objective point for investment now.
The mining activity of East ami West Kootenay
offers an exceptional  market  for Kootenay lumber mills.
Mr. Thos. Mooney. of Chicago, has been visiting Kootenay on behalf of himself and associates
looking for investments in the West. Interviewed by the Nelson News, Mr. Mooney said: "1 am
here just looking around. You see there is a
great deal of money in the States that is seeking
investment, and the ordinary bank rate of 3 to 4
per cent, is too small, therefore capital is looking
for openings in this great country of yours, and
1 am here for the purpose of seeking for suitable
openings for investment. I leave tomorrow for
East Kootenay where T shall look over some
timber limits, coal and oil lands and lode mining
locations, with the idea of taking them up if they
seem to be what I want. I shall return here
early next week, and shall then be able to tell
you more about my plans."
Nelson papers express confidence in the fact
that the McGoldrick Sawmill will be built in their
city, and report that the money has been put up
for the site. Application was recently made to
the county court for an order permitting the closing of certain streets and alleys in the neighborhood of One-Mile poinlt.    The application, which
was unopposed, was granted conditionally, 1 he
streets and alleys 111 question are those that traverse the property on winch Mr. McGoldrick
holds an option, and. if closed, will form with
tlii' lints an unbroken area. It is assumed that
the purpose of the application is to strengthen
Mr. McGoldrick's position for future negotiations,
The first timber camp sent out by the Kamloops Lumber Company this season, lelt for
Mabel Lake 111 the Vernon district early tin-'
The mill of the Kamloops Lumber Company at
Kamloops, was totally destroyed by tire on the
night of the Qth inst., and a loss of over $.}0,ooo
is entailed upon the company. The tire is attributed to sparks from a locomotive but this is
uncertain. Besides the mill a very considerable
quantity of lumber was destroyed, estimated
roughly at 150,000 feet. The property was considered to be worth about $50,000 and was covered by  insurance  to the extent  of $_»o.ooo.
Mr. McCormick, the manager of the company,
is not yet in a position to say just what the company will do beyond that they will rebuild either
at Kamloops or at Savona, the storage of logs
being more easily managed at the latter point.
When rebuilt the capacity of the mill will be
doubled and will in every way be a more complete plant  than  the one just destroyed.
The No. 1 mill of the King Lumber Co., on
Nigger Creek, near Cranbrook, was totally destroyed by tire on Sunday, 11 th inst. The tire is said
to have started in the boiler house and it is stated
that the watchman was asleep when the tire
stared, he having great difficulty escaping from
the burning building. The lumber yards and
planer are situated some distance from the mill-
site and were not burned. The mill was one of
the first brought into the district ami had a capacity of 20,000 feet a day, was valued at about
$~,000. and insured for $5,000. No lumber,
logs  or  accessories  of  the  mill  were  burned.
The King Lumber Company is owned and controlled by Senator King of Chipman. New Brunswick, and his sons Dr. J. II. King, M. P. P., for
Cranbrook, and M. B. King, the latter being the
general  manager.
The sawmill oi Messrs. Braden & Johnston on
the Salmon Arm road, about twelve miles from
Enderby, were burned to the ground this month.
The loss was about $1,800, with no insurance. As
soon as Mr. McCormick, manager of the Kamloops mill at Enderby heard of the misfortune,
he offered to supply Messrs. Braden & Johnston
with an engine and boiler. It is their intention
to rebuild at once, so as to be in position to saw
early next  spring.
The Port Renfrew Lumber Company, who is
carrying on logging operations in San Juan Valley and West Coast of Vancouver Island, is the
only exclusive spruce logging company in British
Columbia. It has put a lloat in the market this
season of several million feet, most of which has
been sold in Vancouver and Victoria. This week
two large booms of magnificent spruce were
brought to Vancouver and found a ready sale
owing to the superior grade of quality. So even
is the timber from the West Coast of Vancouver
Island that logs 50 feet in length do not vary six
inches in measurement at either end. In the
boom that the tug Mystery landed here there
were several swifters of logs, the smallest log in
these was four feet in diameter at the small end.
This company was organized last year and notwithstanding the serious depression in the log
market its history has been one of continued success ever since its inception. On account of the
cheapness with which the logs can be landed in
salt water, the company has an excellent chance
of making money. The output will be doubled
next year as the demand has been more than the
company could cope with this season. Several
offers have been made for next season's cut at
very fair prices, but the company declines to accept any offers at present.
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Mr. McRae, manager of the Alberta Lumbet
Company, left a week or two ago for Northwest
and  Eastern points.
Calvin Pulton, a logger employed at Mclntyre's
igging camp, on the Coast, was accideiiatlL
illed early this month.
Mr. Win. Sulley, of the P. II. Heaps Lumbei
Company returned last week from an extended
visit  to the Old Country.
Mr. C. M. Beecher, of the B. C. Mills, Timbei
& Trading Company, has returned from a business trip to the  Northwest.
British ship Halewood is loading lumber al
Hastings  Mill for Callao,  Peru.
Mr. J. M. Mackinnon has gone to England on
business connected with the Oriental Power &
Pul]) Company. He expects to be away about two
Mr. W. F. Huntting, of the Huntting-Le:i
Lumber Company, left for Chicago and Eastern
cities on a business trip during the early part ot
this month.
Mr. Spicer has retired from the firm of Woods
& Spicer, to assume the management of the
recently organized Export Lumber & Shingle
Company,   Limited.
The   Dominion   Government   has   reserved   the
timber upon  certain  lands  in  the  Coquitlam   1 'is
trict, sold some two years ago to the Corporation
of  New  Westminster.
Dean & Clark, who have been operating on
Stave Lake for E. II Heaps & Co., during the
last three years, have broken up their camp and
moved to  North  Vancouver.
Mr. J. C. Shields, of. the Kamloops Lumber
Company, was a visitor to the city on a business
trip this month, in connection with the sittings
ot   the   Railway   Commission.
George Perry, travelling representative of the
Pacific Coast Pipe Company, returned last week
from an extensive trip through Manitoba, the
Northwest   and   British  Columbia.
A company is being organized under the name
oi the Union Lumber Co., Ltd.. for the purpose
of handling on a co-operative basis, the output of
several  large   shingle  and   lumber  mills.
Mr. W. L. R. Stoddard, of W. N. O'Neill & Co.,
was married on the 15th inst. to Miss Jeannie M
Cameron, of Old Cathcart, Scotland.   We extend
our   heartiest   congratulations   to   Mr.   and   Mrs.
Building permits for Vancouver for the month
of August were considerably more than in July,
there being 90 issued, as compared with 70 for
July. The figures for August were $150,800; foi
July, $114,720.
Mr. E, II. Bucklin and Mrs. Bucklin, of Ithaca.
New York, with their two daughters and one son.
have arrived in New Wsetminster to reside. Mr.
Bucklin has purchased the "Rosslyn," the home
of the late Mr. 1. B. Fisher.
The  P.. C.   Plate Glass  &  Importing Company.
Ltd., have removed their premises from  Hastings
Street  East  to 332 Hastings Street, West, where
they now have larger and more central and con
venieut offices and warehouses.
Mr. J. I). Moody has arrived from Galveston,
Texas, and has taken over the management of
the Vancouver Lumber Company, in succession
to Mr. C. S. Battle, who has retired. This property was recently acquired by Messrs. Clark &
Tucker, of Texas.
A fatal accident occurred at McWhinney &
Lurwick's logging camp at Port Neville last
week. A man named Alfred Baldwin was riding
on a log which was being pulled along by a
donkey engine, when it turned beneath him, and
he fell under it. The life was crushed out of him
almost immediately. The remains were brought
to Vancouver for interment.
Messrs. Sheldon & Sheldon, of Gait, Ontario,
are great believers in the efficacy of printers' ink.
We received a few days ago Bulletin No. 21, a
handsomely printed booklet descriptive of the
company's "hot blast heating apparatus" for use
in small buildings, dry kilns, special dryers, etc.,
and can recommend its perusal for any one in the
market for goods of this class.
Among the recent arrivals from the Northern
Coast was Manager Williams of the Bella Coola
Pulp Mill Company. He proceeded to Seattle.
The company has been conducting a number of
surveys of their timber limits in the north, but
have now suspended work until early spring.
Capt. Gidley of the launch Kootenay, which has
been employed in  the work, also came  south.
The A. J. Burton Saw Company, Ltd., has
secured the services of Mr. A. M. Terry, an expert
saw maker of many years standing. Mr. Terry
has been with the E. C. Atkins Company, of
Indianapolis, Ind., for 30 years, and is recommended as one of the most efficient saw makers
on this continent. The company is to be congratulated on securing a man of Mr. Terry's
The work of reconstruction of the mill of the
Canadian Pacific Lumber Company, Ltd., at Port
Moody, is going on apace. The new building is
about 60x130 feet, two stories high. It is built
parallel with the shore and set out in the bay 100
feet further than the end of the old mill. The
managers intend rushing operations so as to have
the mill running by January. J. and G. Aberncthy
are in charge of the framing.
At the annual fall Exhibition of the Royal
Agricultural & Industrial Society, to be held at
New Westminster early next month, several interesting lumber exhibits will be made by local
mills. The Brunette Mills intend to have a box
factory in full operation, and the Royal City Planing Mills, of this city, will have an exhibit of
"ready-made" houses,, which proved such a feature at the Winnipeg Exhibition recently.
Mr. C. S. Battle, late manager of the Vancouver Lumber Company, left last week for a few
weeks holiday. As noted elsewhere Mr. Battle
has severed his connection with the Vancouver
Lumber Company consequent upon the change
of ownership. He has become interested in the
Port Renfrew Lumber Company, and upon his
return to British Columbia will devote much of
his time  to the  affairs of that company.
Lester W. David and his associates have
decided to commence the reconstruction of the
Ross-McLaren Mills at Sapperton, and work will
be begun at once. All the details have been arranged for, and work will be carried on with a
force of about 200 men. When the mills are in
operation it is altogether likely that the company
will enlarge their plans of operation and undertake the construction of certain fines aside from
the usual timber cutting.
Following up the disastrous fires which occurred in the vicinity of Vancouver last month,
several arrests have been made and a few convictions secured, but one of the chief obstacles
in bringing to justice persons accused of causing
bush lires is the necessity of having to swear out
a warrant for the arrest of the guilty party,
because by the time this is done the party has
disappeared, Several of our local mills and
loggers have been heavy losers by this season's
bush lires, and they have 110 recourse.
The West Coast of Vancouver Island is becoming a most important logging centre among local
mills who have need of high-grade spruce logs.
A sale of about half a million feet of choice
spruce was recently made by the Port Renfrew
Lumber Company bo E, 11. Heaps & Co., of this
City. The Port Renfrew Lumber Company possesses extensive limits of some of the finest spruce
ever grown. The boom sold to E. 11. Heaps & Co.
is the third the company has towed so far this
summer, and another million feet of spruce logs
are now lying in the water at Port Renfrew waiting for a sufficiently powerful tug to bring them
Says the Ruskin correspondent of the Vancouver World: "James Austin, of Stave Lake Falls,
had a lot of shingle bolts in the river. He engaged
a white man with a big team to get them out,
but the latter soon got discouraged, thinking that
there were difficulties in his job which were insurmountable, and gave it up. An Indian with
his two ponies and patched-up harness, undertook
the job, and in a week or so had $125 cash coming to him, besides a lot of provisions for his
family. Indians arc excellent for jobs that don't
last long; then having quickly earned some money
they like to pose as gentlemen of leisure for a
while, paying out their money freely, thus helping to support the country stores. The educated
ones, like the above named, even subscribe to
newspapers, wdiich is more than Japs of Chinamen do."
The following announcement speaks for itself
and we feel justified in recommending your attention  to the new enterprise:
To the Lumber Trade—Dear Sirs: Wc beg to
take this means of introducing ourselves to the
lumber trade as wholesale dealers and shippers of
British   Columbia  lumber  products.
The promoter and manager of this company,
Mr. H. H. Spicer, who has recently retired from
the management of Woods & Spicer, Ltd.. has
had over fifteen years experience in connection
with the manufacture and the sale in Canada and
the United States of British Columbia lumber
and shingles. Mr. Spicer has also had ten years'
experience in connection with the lumber trade
in the United States, and is therefore particularly
well informed as to the requirements of the lumber dealers in Canada and the United States.
The above personal item appeared necessary
as an assurance to the lumber trade that the management of this Company will be in a position to
intelligently supply their needs with such lumber
products as are manufactured in British Columbia.
The incorporators and first directors of the
company are—Thomas Kirkpatrick, Shingle Manufacturer; J. W. Hackett, of Robertson & Hackett,
Lumber Manufacturers; J. G. Scott, Manager
Pacific Coast Lumber Company, Ltd.; T. E. Atkins, President Red Cedar Lumber Company,
Ltd.: H. H. Spicer, late Manager Woods & Spicer
Ltd.. all of Vancouver. B. C.
We shall have a large source of supply and
shall be in a position at all times to supply your
wants with reasonable promptness and at current market prices.
Correspondence   from   the    trade    respectfully
solicited.    Enquiries   for   information    about   the
lumber business of British Columbia shall always
have prompt and careful attention.
Yours truly,
Export Lumber & Shingle Co., Ltd.
The Board of Directors are well known shingle
and lumber manufacturers of Vancouver, whose
standing in the community is a sufficient guarantee that the company means business and that
in all its dealings it will be conducted on strictly
business   principles.    The   prime   objects   of   the
known the
world over
Paint Co.
24 Second St., San Francisco
Los Angeles, Portland. Seattle, Denver
Agent for Western British Columbia
and Vancouver Island
18 Powell St.
Vancouver, B. C.
The Curney Standard Metal Co.,
company are strongly to be commended as anything which can be done to strengthen the hands
of the manufacturer in maintaining prices at fair
living rate of profit is worthy of support, and it
seems to be one of the prime efforts of the new
company to bring buyer and seller together with
that end in view. The company claims to have
already been accorded a very fair share of support from manufacturers and is likewise in touch
with buyers, both on this and the other side of
the line.
The Dominion Government is advertising for
tenders upon the following timber berths:
On Berth No. 397, situate in the Province of
British Columbia, in about Township 5, Range
26, West of the Sixth Meridian, commencing at
the southwest corner of Timber Berth No. 395;
thence east along the south boundary of said
berth 120 chains; thence south 80 chains; thence
west 120 chains; thence north 80 chains, to point
of commencement, containing an area of 960
acres, more or less; and Berth No. 403, situate
in the Province of British Columbia to the east
of Pitt Lake: Commencing at a post planted on
the left hank of a small creek which enters said
lake to the north of Gozling Island, said post
being about 60 chains up from the mouth of said
creek, thence up said creek 180 chains in direct
distance with a width of 30 chains on each side
thereof measured at right angles to the general
bearing of creek within the berth, containing an
area of  1,080 acres, more or less.
Co-operative fire insurance is finding favor
among mill owners in the Pacific States, and a
considerable saving in the cosit of fire insurance
is thereby anticipated. The high rates charged
by "old line" companies has acted as the best
advertisement for the introduction of "mutual''
benefits. I
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11   $
Mr,   E.  W    Pollock,  Insurance  Appraiser   and
Adjuster of Seattle, spent  several days in Vane
couver  this  month  making  estimates  and  plans
of  the  mill  of  the   Pacific  Coast   Lumber  Coin
pany's    property    for    appraisement    purposes,
from    information    at    hand    the    system    followed by  Mr.  Pollock is most perfect in it- de
tail, and we herewith submit a  letter of  recom
mendation from the well known firm id Wheeler.
Osgood & Company of Tacoma:
Tacoma, Washington, Aug, 6th, 1904.
Mr.  I'.. W.  Pollock. Seattle, W11,
Dear  Sir:    We  have  been  over  the  plan-  and
inventory of our plant, which yon have just sub
milted  to  US.
We wish to say that we consider them a very
complete, thorough and accurate piece of work.
Your figures are surprisingly close to our own
records of cost and your plan of making y utr
appraisal conform to our insurance forms seems
to us a very desirable feature,
We think no manufacturer who has experienced
\\ fire loss, ami has had to adjust  insurance with
the aid of only  the usual incomplete records   at
nand, would be willing to be without an expert
Lnpraisal  after  being   shown   a   set   ol   plan-   and
ji inventory such as you have given us.
,Yoti are at liberty to refer to us as thoroughly
fished  patron-.
Yours very truly,
'fin-: Whki ii k, Osgood Co.,
By  C
( )>g> 11 id,   Sec.
report  of the  Superintendent  of   Forestry,
Worm part of the Annual Report of the Dent of the Interior, has been issued and con-
ilich  interesting  mailer.     In  regard  to  the
K»d area- the  following statement    by    Mr.
jWgirt contain-  figure-  that   will  perhaps  give   a
fyiew to many of the wealth possessed in this
jfjject   by   the   D.puiini"!i   in   it-   federal   capacity
as the administrator of the Dominion lands;
"It will be seen from the census oi iqoi that
an estimate is made oi the area ol forests and
woodlands for each of the province- and also for
the Territories, That oi Manitoba and the Tei
ritories is placed at 7^2,578 square miles, Add to
this 20,000 square miles of Dominion territory in
the railway belt in British Columbia, and we have
742,578 scpiare miles as the total on Dominion
land-. Probably about one fifth of tin- contains
merchantable timber, or say 150.000 square miles,
or ijii.ooo.ooo acre-. After thus reducing the area,
and remembering that in addition to the timbei
-unable for lumber, a large part ol it i- covered
with spruce valuable for pulpwood, it can scarcely
be considered an extravagant estimate to place the
merchantable timber, including pulpwood, at 2,000
feet board measure per acre, or in all 192,000,000,-
000 feet. We have thus arrived at a very rough
approximation of the quantity of timber now tit
for use on the land- owned and controlled by the
1 )i uninion,
At the lowest, the value of such timber standing in the tree may be put at $1 per thousand feet
board measure, that would amount to $192,000,000,
This represents only what might be collected by
the government as a royalty, and form- but a
small part of u- value to the country as a whole.
Much of the timber 1- growing on land unsuitable
for agriculture, but where water power i- abundant, and with the power thus at hand this
country should be without a rival in the manufac
lure of all article- in which timber forms the chief
It may be -aid that a very large percentage of
this timber is not at present available, and thai
consequently its value is overestimated, but when
we consider the great appreciation in the value of
timber limits within the last ten or twenty year-,
and the scarcity of the world'- supply for the fu
ture, it is almost certain that the enhanced value
that will be obtained in the future for what 1- now
inaccessible will more than pay compound interest
on the present estimated value,
The above estimate take- no account of the
younger growth. In considering the potentialities
of our forest area-, their capability of affording a
continuous   crop   should   be   kept  clearly   in   view
Even under the discouraging condition prevailing
in  our  lumber  region-  alter  logging    operation
have ceased, it will be found in most cases thai
another crop, either ol  the original or other van
tics, 1- fast springing up, and in my calculation 0j
the value of a timbered territory, which 1- to re
main permanently in forest, this   growing   crop
should   be   taken   into  account.
Without going too minutely into this phase ol
the subject, I am oi the opinion that if we confine
our cutting ol -awlog- to all tree- above 12 inches
at the butt and pulpwood to -ay 7 inches, the
annual increment ol growth lit for use will be not
less than t|o feet board measure to the acre, or
an annual growth increment equalling 13,440,000,
000  feet,   which  at   the   above   rate  of  $1   per   thoilS
and stumpage would give a perpetual annual re
turn equal to $13,440,000.
It may be said that in tin- latter calculation no
account 1- taken of the decreased forestral area
that will follow from the occupation of the land
by -ettler-. This 1- true, but a- the timber on
Dominion land- 1- mostly confined: first, to the
northerly part- of the continent and beyond the
fertile land; second, to the easterly slope of tin
Rocky Mountains; and thud, to the railway bell
m British Columbia, it may be safely assumed thai
the liberal reduction made for untimbered land in
arriving at these figure- will fully counterbalance
any reduction in the area named through it- beinjj
cleared up and applied to agriculture.
Winn we consider all these facts, it must be
apparent that from a financial standpoint alone
the liberal expenditure of public money ill guard
ing these forests from destruction is fully warrant
ed, It is unnecessary to infer to the incalculable
loss which Canada has already sustained by forest
lires, while the excellent results that have followed the adoption of the fire ranging system
wherever it has been 111 force arc universally ad
The foregoing remark- refer to the financial
aspect of the forestry question, but the intimate
relation that forests bear to the water supply of
a ci iiintry 1- w ell km iw n
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ness to the deplorable results that have followed
the destruction of timber in the neighborhood of
their water supply. Scarcely a single nation of
either Europe or Asia has but cause to regret the
results that have followed the denudation of timber nil their mountain sides. In many eases what
were once fertile valleys are now barren wastes,
owing to the drying up the country. There is perhaps not much difference in the precipitation, but
owing to the destruction of the natural reservoirs
at the sources of supply, the once perennial
streams are now torrents for a short time in the
spring, and then dry for the greater part of the
year. The wells also fail, and a water famine is
the fesult.
Important as this phase of the subject is to all
parts of the country, it applies with the greatest
force to the prairie regions of our northwest,
where the precipitation is so light as to require
to be supplemented in many eases by irrigation.
It is not too much to say that the future of a large
section of our fertile prairie country, and of that
1 >f southern .Alberta and A.ssiniboia in particular,
will be sadly disappointing if by any means the
timber covering on the eastern slope of the Rocky
Mountains should be destroyed. A glance at the
map will show a number of streams, such as the
St. Mary's, Old Man, Sheep River, High River.
the Elbow, the Bow, the Red Deer and others,
with their numerous tributaries (lowing into the
South Saskatchewan, and all dependent on the
precipitation on that watershed for their supply,
and equally dependent on the forest with which
it is covered to prevent a tumultuous run-off in
the spring and early summer. Disastrous as have
been some of the floods along these streams in
recent years, they will be tenfold more destructive
and frequent if by any means the forest covering
along the foothills should be destroyed."
The tree planting scheme shows great and encouraging development. We will refer to this
more at length later, but for the present quote
from the report of the Assistant Superintendent,
Mr. Norman M. Ross, on results of a plantation
ten years old at Indian Head. A plantation of
one-third of an acre was set out in 1893, the trees
being four feet by six feet apart and the number
605. The seedlings when planted were from two
to three years old. From measurements made in
1903 it was found that 47,} posts, six to seven feet
long, could be cut out of this plantation, the
diameter of the posts being in all cases over two
inches at the top end. Cedar posts were then retailing at eighteen cents each, so that an elm post
might be valued at ten cents. At the above rate
1,410 posts may he obtained from one acre, making $141.90, the present value per acre of the plantation. Sixteen dollars per acre would undoubtedly more than cover the labor, cost of seedlings
and interest on money Up to the present time.
The cost of cutting the posts is not counted, as the
tops suitable for fuel should pay for this. Thus a
profit of $125.90 per acre after ten years could be
obtained from such a plantation, or an average
annual  profit  of $12.59.
Mr. W. C. Wheeler, President of the Wheeler.
Osgood  Company  of Tacoma,  W'u., has  left  for
an extended trip throughout the East. Mr.
Wheeler hails from Massachussetts,where he was
born and spent his early manhood, and his trip"
will be given up largely to the renewing of old
acquaintances and  visiting his early home.
Mr. T. E. Ripley, Vice-President of the same
company, has just arrived from a four month's
trip throughout the Middle and Atlantic Coast
States. He reports business in a comparatively
flat condition, but seems to find some crumbs of
comfort iu the better outlook for the fall and next
spring trade which he found.
The company is constantly increasing its capacity for cedar and lir doors and has recently
added largely to its colonial column department,
in   which   the  old  capacity  is just  about  doubled.
Prof. Conway McMillan, of the Minnesota University, who recently returned from the botanical
sta'tion at San Juan, is impressed with the marvellous supply of fine timber to be found on
Vancouver Island, and expressed surprise that so
little effort apparently was being made to exploit
these resources. In his opinion there was sufficient to supply the world for a couple of generations. It was a shame to see so much of this
valuable timber rotting away, and he looked forward to the time when the residents of Hritish
Columbia would realize the magnificent opportunities right at hand. "It isn't possible," he
added, "for a country with the wonderful
resources in mineral ami timber of this island to
be stationary long. Within a few years there will
be a boom which will be the beginning of a new
Cast month has been a record one for the issuances of timber licenses, there being no fewer
than 203; "o of that number being new licenses
and [33 for renewals. Of the new licenses only
two are situated on the coast. N. and S. E. Kootenay accounting for the greater majority, while
eleven licenses have been granted to the Empire
Lumber Company of Revelstoke upon Dudgeon
Creek   in 'the   Lillooet  district.
Ottawa. Sept. 16.—The Dominion Government
has entered into a contract with Messrs. Andrew
Weir & Co., of Glasgow, Scotland, for a steamship service from Vancouver and Victoria to the
Mexican ports of Mazatlan, San Bias, Manzanillo,
Acapuleo, Puerto Angel, Salina Cruz, Tonala and
San Benito. The Canadian Government gives
$50,000 and the Mexican Government $50,000 per
year. The service will be monthly. The vessels
must bear the British flag, having a carrying
capacity of 3,000 tons with adequate passenger
accommodation, and maintain between ports a
minimum speed of ten knots per hour. Mr. J. H.
Greer, of Victoria, acted for Messrs. Weir & Co.
in  the  negotiations.
Advertisments will be inserted in this department
at the rate of to cents per line for each insertion, payable in advance.
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The Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works
has sent instructions to Government Officers extending  to  Kootenay  the  operations of an  Act
[passed   in   1902   regulating   the   measurement   of
The Act was intended to apply only to the ter-
Jtory west of the Cascades, but the Chief Com-
fcsioner has been led to realize the importance
.making similar provisions for Vale and Koot-
ky,   and   has   issued   orders   accordingly,   con-
it  that   such  action   will  be   approved  by   the
timber sold to a company is to be measured
scaler who is an employee of the company.
lerc be any dispute about the measurement
gal may be taken to a supervisor. Timber
Bctor J. R. Martin is made supervisor, and
be referee in all appeals. At present it is
rided that 'the referee's fees shall be paid by
>ome amendments are sought by those inter-
ted. Scalers now pay a license of $25. and as
ley receive no fees, this seems unnecessary and
ljust, and. it is thought, the fee oi 'the supervisor should be paid by the party losing the
ippeal, not always by the appellant.
The change will be a distinct benefit to the
timber industry of Yale and Kootenay, as it will
make regular and definite transactions that have
in the past been rather informal and unbusinesslike.
Asbestos has been the chief substance used in
the manufacture of heat insulating goods
for boilers and steam pipes ami cylinder
coverings for years, but it would seem from recent experiments that mica is likely to supercede
asbestos for such purposes. Our attention has
been drawn to the product manufactured by the
Mica Boiler Covering Company of London, Hug.,
and Montreal, and of the recommendations of no
less an authority than Professor Silvanus P.
Thompson, F. R. S., one oi the most eminent
scientists in the Old Country, upon the use of
mica in  the manufacture  of heat insulators.
The loss of heat from imperfectly protected
surfaces of boilers and steam pipes has a money
value which is not always realized, especially in
plants where fuel is cheap or is composed of a
waste product such as sawdust from a mill.
Many of our British Columbia mills, while well
equipped in other respects, give the question of
heat insulation little more than passing attention,
and, as long as their boilers and pipes are covered (no matter with wha't), are content. At first
sight, it seems that when cost of fuel is not a
matter of expense, this state of affairs is all that
is required, but the fuel bill is not the only point
which has to be considered, for loss of heat from
imperfectly protected surfaces will seriously decrease the efficiency of ;i boiler, and, in a large
plant, will certainly entail the Use of more boilers
than would be required if each one was delivering
to the engines all the steam u was generating.
Also when pipes are not covered with a covering
of high heat insulating quality, tin- steam reaches
the engine in a more or less wet state, the degree of wetness of course depending on the efficiency of the covering and the length of the pipe,
Although the amount >>f water present may not
be sufficient to cause actual damage to the engine,
even a small percentage of moisture in the steam
will necessitate a much more liberal supply of
cylinder oil than would be the case if the siteam
was dry or nearly so. Wet Steam has also a
tendency to promote excessive wear and, in some
eases,  cutting  of  the   moving  parts.
Mica has long been known as an excellent non-condudtor of heat and many prominent
engineers have investigated and reported favorably upon its suitability for covering boilers and
steam pipes, but until a few years ago, it- use
was not considetred as being commercially practical on account of the great cost of the mica
itself as well as the expense of handling it to
make  it  available   for  coverings.
However,, tin' Mica Boiler Covering Company
of London, England, and Montreal, by lining
waste mica and special machinery, are now able
to put mica on the market at a reasonable cost
and in a form suited to the insulation of heated
The advantages of mica are well set forth in the
following extract from a report by the eminent
engineer and scientist Silvanus I'. Thompson, F.
R. S., to the directors of the Mica Boiler Covering Company:—
"The chief advantages which mica covering has
over all boiler coatings hitherto known are
ist. Its superior power of resisting the conduction   of heat.
2nd.     fts   practical   indestructibility.
"The tests made by independent engineers for
the Canadian Pacific Kail way Company and
other large corporations, leave no doubt upon
these points. 1 attribute the unrivalled hea't-
resisting properties to the material tn two circumstances. In the first place, the corrugation of
the flakes has the effect that when assembled
over one another there are a large number of
narrow interstitial spaces, which have the property of arresting the conduction of heat, while
the mica (lakes themselves hinder the passage of
heat by convection or radiation. Tn the second
place, the process of manufacture has the result
of placing'the flakes and the interstitial air-spaces
in exactly the most favorable position fur cutting
oflF the flow of heat, namely, transverse In the
direction in which the heat tends to flow. None
of the fibrous or plastered materials can be equal
to laminated mica, because in them the fibres and
interstices lie in all directions in a miscellaneous
manner, allowing the heat to penetrate outward
with less difficulty.
"The question of durability is in my opinion
little, if any. less important than the actual non
conducting value ni a boiler coasting, for in practice we find that many substances which in themselves are effective non-conductors arc undesirable to use, either because they will calcine at
high temperature-, or they will disintegrate under
prolonged vibration, or that they will crack and
crumble from expansion and contraction of the
boiler or pip'.', as occurs in many cases where
plaster or cement coverings are used.
"The principal involved in the manufacture of
this mica covering mark- a radical departure from
ordinary methods and possesses, 111 in\ judgment,  important  and  obvious  advantages.
"Containing nothing organic in itself, mica does
not deteriorate from -udden or prolonged exposure to extreme- of temperature, and it is practically  unaffected by  lire or water.
"Being composed  ol   a multitudinous mass "i
line tlake- of mica, which are enclosed by wire
netting held in place by wire stitches, this covering does luu depend for cohesion upon cements
of glue, shellac, lye, clay-wash or other extraneous matter. It 1-. therefore, free from the tendency to dry out and finally disintegrate, inseparable from the use oi such cements. Moreover, being elastic and flexible, the mica mats
cannon crack or shrink, and readily expand and
contact   with   the  iron
"An important feature of this material 1- its
freedom from acids or moisture, which render- it
perfectly safe to use in direct contact with iron.
The same cannot be -aid of many other coverings now in use. It also has the particular advantage, that any -mall particles which may be
mechanically detached in handling the material will not injure the bearings of engines,
pumps or shafting, since mica is itself a lubri-
cat< >r.
"While in Toronto I wa- shown the charts and
notes of tests made by the engineers of tTie Canadian Pacific Railway, the Boiler Inspection Company and the Grand Trunk Railway on the coin
parativc merit- of tin- material which m each
case was found to be distinctly superior to the
best ot all other materials previously known, asbestos, slag wool, magnesia, etc. from the numerical data of these tests, | calculate that the loss
oi heat per hour, when reckoned out into tie
equivalent amount of wasted horse-power (with
steam at 100 lbs. per square inch), is no less than
1 h.p. for every 66 feet of uncovered 4 inch pip1'
Whereas, if covered with the magnesia, wdiich is
superior to the asbestos cement commonly used,
the loss is reluced to 1 h.p. in every 20(1 feet, and
with the mica coating to 1  h. p. in every 345 ,tr.1-
"The use of flaked mica manufactured by this
process should not be confined to the insulation
of steam heat alone, but should find a wide market
in other directions, such as fircproofing, cold
storage, etc., since its non-conducting properties
render it as useful to keep out heat as to keep it
Messrs Bayfield & Archibald, mechanical engineers of Vancouver, the western representatives of the Mica Boiler Covering Company, will
doubtless, he, t>l"ascd to furnish any further information desired upon  this subject.
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